What will Dungeons and Dragons 6th Edition Change | Reaction

[@DY__599]

I think if they're gonna lean into the renaming of "races" to "species" they should go the full way and make half-elves and half-orcs sterile, in the same way that the hybrid offspring of two species are in real life (e.g., mules). I always kinda thought that it would be a good canon reason as to why there are only ever "half-elves" rather than quarter-elves, etc. I also think it would make half-races really quite sad, so don't know. Just thought it was an interesting caveat to the whole change to the terminology.

[@gavinruneblade]

Weapon mastery was also a part of BECMI back in the '80s. More complex back then, with scaling properties and traits, different bonuses vs different enemies, etc. But it is something that's been part of D&D for decades.

[@MarekDohojda]

Was about to say same thing. I remember those little books back in the 2nd edition. I am actually always been a huge fan of SOME weapon options, just not too much. My biggest beef with Pathfinder is too much stuff, I like 5e simplicity, while I do want SOME weapon additions, I want it to be some not overwhelming.

[@gavinruneblade]

@@MarekDohojda Yes, that was a problem with Weapon Mastery in Basic D&D, it got complex. Like, pulling out my Rules Cyclopedia, at Master tier a shortsword gave you a 3 point bonus to AC vs 4 melee attacks, and could deflect 3 attacks per turn of any kind, with a chance to disarm an enemy in melee. That's rather a lot to track, and easy to forget the difference between melee vs range. Too complex. Cool and makes every weapon dynamic and different, but it wasn't simple, that's for sure.

[@MarekDohojda]

@@gavinruneblade yep. I think sometimes having a complex rules can be fun, but for a whole campaign? Too much to keep track off. It's a hard balance for sure.

[@shenotski]

WOTC wants D&D to a be a lifestyle brand not something for their core audience. Hence why they immediately fucked up things with the boon that was BG3.

[@loselot6044]

Sorry did you mean "D&D 5.5e"? On a serious note, they're trying too hard to make a game for everyone, to the point where they're making a game for no one.

[@albusvoltavern4500]

Something something “when everyone is super”

[@Eemi_Seppala]

Don't you mean 5.24e?

[@loselot6044]

@Eemi_Seppala I mean, you aren't wrong, but 5.5 just sounds better

[@Eemi_Seppala]

@@loselot6044 I'm glad we all know what to call 1D&D. How awful would it be if no-one knew what to call it.

[@loselot6044]

@Eemi_Seppala Yeah I know 1D&D is a stupid name because they will make more editions. And a huge chunk of people will not switch over to it so it isn't really the "one true D&D." So I do agree, I'm glad that people know to call it 5.5e. Because that's really what it is

[@Eemi_Seppala]

More 5e is fixed, closer it gets to 4e.

[@TchHry]

Give Pathfinder 1 or 2 a shot, they've been shockingly good and I've played since 2nd ed.

[@tablesaltgames]

@@TchHry I’ve always given PF the side eye. I’ve never been one for large rule books. Have you tried Dragonbane?

[@TchHry]

@@tablesaltgames Haven't even heard about it, I'll search your channel for any vids on it.

[@Avoloch]

i will buy dolmenwood or shadowdark

[@ChrisMoneymakerDHRG]

Sounds like a whole lot more power creep, for already over powered characters.

[@tablesaltgames]

@@ChrisMoneymakerDHRG Magic the Gathering business tactics 😂

[@ChrisMoneymakerDHRG]

A race to the bottom where the potential costumer base is at it’s widest.

[@echidnanation8239]

That thumbnail… 💀

[@Tr33ba1t]

I'm glad someone else feels the same way I do about 4E. My first "real" DnD campaign was 4E (we never finished it), and I thought it was really fun. I miss my shardmind that was basically Ghost Rider

[@davidrobertson5996]

Good post, just subbed. Interested to watch some of your wargaming stuff too. As a DnD player/GM since 2nd edition, I have to say that 3rd and 4th edition had a lot to recommend them. My overall favourite has to be 3/3.5. Great artwork, darker than 5e. Since the whole OGL debacle, I'm not giving Wizards/Hasbro any more of my money, and have been delving instead into third party content and OSR resources like Basic Fantasy RPG/Old School Essentials and Swords and Wizardry. That said, play what gives you happiness. One thought I had that I thought you might mention was them pushing towards playing on VTT as opposed to sitting round a table. I prefer the table to online, but think WotC is pushing VTT items as a sweetener for pre-orders.

[@SlyBlueDemon]

Can't wait for the combat that takes forever already to take even longer when players are now deciding if they want to spend heroic inspiration to reroll stuff.

[@stephenharamis4786]

Me myself and die also inspired me to take the plunge into solo ttrpg

[@tablesaltgames]

@@stephenharamis4786 love that guy, I wish there were more channels like his willing to promote a verity of rpg system

[@MeMyselfandDieRPG]

@@tablesaltgames Why, thank you. As it happens, I agree completely ;)

[@atray5519]

Is your business still open? Seeing mixed reviews on your shop being closed- just wondering if your website still accepts orders

[@tablesaltgames]

@@atray5519 yes, my tee springs store is still active.

[@Tora58]

If you like 4th edition, you should check out Horde Wars: Basic. It plays like 4e, but manages to be speed up combat significantly. It's on DTRPG.

[@matthaeusprime6343]

Drinking a potion is an action and always will be in my games. Some of these little changes are the worst.

[@frostfiredirewolf8517]

lol. I'm already working on a system similar to weapon mastery for my home brew of 5e

[@robertpascuttini7144]

I hate that healing potion bonus action. So, you can attack, then drink a healing potion in melee combat. Makes no sense.

[@WickedTheReaper]

D&D is rather grim in most aspects. How most of us started it was bloody and dark. As editions go on, it's become very light hearted because times?

[@dirtysilver2841]

4E and 5E was great for new players when trying to explain DnD. 3.5 was peak greatness. I imagine 6E will be far less of DnD and more social political for no reason what so ever.

[@tablesaltgames]

@@dirtysilver2841 facts, and that’s why I’m collecting OSR now. At least before the “agenda” try’s to revise that too 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@Daiqatana]

The future of DnD is probably mobile games. If this push fails, maybe there'll be a 7th ed one day.

[@MartyrPandaGaming]

WotC Dungeons & Dragons according to a Grognard 3.X D&D: Superheroes The one we _don't_ talk about. 5th, Baby's First P&P The second we _don't_ talk about. Edit: To be clear, I don't mind 3.X. It can be fun. Especially when your DM green lights Psionics. Wizard (Enchanter) 5/Psion (Egoist) 8 gets stupid broken and hilarious if you're willing to roll up a new character.

[@iandick1364]

I'm running Ad&d 2nd and it feels gritty. Loving it

[@MalakyoftheOSR]

Like the video, you earned a sub today. Another channel I like for his solo gaming is Scutiffer_Mike. He has some videos where he plays Old School Essentials that are excellent. "Toning down the essence of D&D." I think you nailed it with the art in the new books.

[@robertthompson3077]

4th ed also ended 3rd party content. which when WoTC only put out 3 or 4 books a year made it a dead game. No real innovations or 3rd party goodness to carry WoTC's plain vanilla goo

[@leerubin4303]

I'm from AD&D times. This entire edition seems geared towards three things. 1) Flavor 2) Martial Class buff, Magic User Nerf 3) Destruction of Ranger (my favorite). A level 12 fighter with LUCKY as a feat gets 3 tries at every roll, if needed. The potion as a bonus action, is to help martial classes heal and attack on the same turn. I liked the fact that martial classes started stronger with Magic based classes getting stronger later on. WOTC disagrees with me. Based on what has been released, I do not like this revision. I'm currently playing a L10 sword bard/ L02 Paladin. Under the new rules, my DM would have to over-ride the Magical Secrets limitations. My Dwarf riding his war pig (Rino stats) named Kevin is going to be fun. Especially when I cast FLY. (with Greater Steed, whatever I cast on ME is cast on him). 2024 kills Kevin. What did Mr. Bacon do to them?

[@johnnnysaint01]

Bro Ranger has never been good, they didn’t destroy it. It was always trash

[@leerubin4303]

@@johnnnysaint01 Sorry to disagree. My last game was a half elf gloomstalker (5) Samurai (4), with elven accuracy and sharpshooter. Stealthy 50 cal machine gunner with a sniper scope. DM was stingy with magical items, but I did have a longbow of warning. I found that Hunters Mark was a trap. I was much more agile and dangerous once I started using Zephyr Strike. In a one-on-one situation, it is hard to find another class that can put out as much single round damage (6 arrows with +10 damage each 18 dex, archery fighting style added to the "to hit", with elven accuracy), with automatic initiative (+12 with ADVANTAGE). Forcing the use of a single concentration spell is a TERRABLE decision. It limits the player choice. Watch Jill from Drakenheim, but instead of rogue (one other player was a rogue) I went fighter, with guaranteed super advantage. Kenji was fun and he was the hard hitter in a three-player campaign that had to use stealth to succeed.

[@johnnnysaint01]

@@leerubin4303 you can disagree but a fact is a fact. So you are not a ranger LOL you depend on other class features because the ranger can’t stand on its own… Like I said always been trash

[@leerubin4303]

@@johnnnysaint01 I'm playing a lvl 2 Paladin lvl 10 sword bard right now. By your argument my Paladin couldn't stand on his own. I dare say, I've never heard that before. Subclasses make a huge difference. Look at the Cleric or the Druid. The subclass can make a totally different character abilities. I wanted to build a certain character type, and the Ranger/fighter worked for what I wanted, and it was not only fun from level 3 on, but at level 9 it was on the OP side.

[@johnnnysaint01]

@@leerubin4303 that’s called a false equivalency.

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

If I got it right, the books come out months apart, so what do you get if you get it a little earlier? The players can go through the Players Handbook, while the GM has to wait for his books? What are you going to do? Have your DM play it with you without him having the Dungeon Master's Guide? Or more importantly, without the Monster Manual? I mean sure, I have seen it done in earlier editions and other TTRPG's and it can be done, but it can be hard and often isn't much fun for the DM. And I don't think you will attract many new people being the DM for the new edition. At least not until the other books are out. So is pre-ordering really that important? Especially if you add the possible buyer's remorse to it?

[@carreroarts9735]

It's gamers fault.... They giving them money and each edition got worse as a result .

[@CooperAATE]

lol you think it's a sixth edition.

[@tablesaltgames]

@@CooperAATE yes, I refer to it as 6e because it’s a full release with fundamental changes/updates.

[@Tr33ba1t]

I think that, generally, when a company makes a big deal out of something like changing "race" to "species" it is a canary in the coal mine, so to speak. People who get super hung up on that in particular are missing the forest for the trees at best, and have malicious reasons for it at worst; if it is a sign of bad things to come, then you have/will have way more important quality issues to critique (as you do in this video, for instance)

[@paulscott1792]

Wait is this so lazy you are commenting on a commentary

[@tablesaltgames]

@@paulscott1792 I’m just a gamer doing what we do best… complain about change 😂

[@Rick-tt5hi]

I am just going to stick with DC 20 and other games. :)