What Will Submission to My Husband Look Like?

[@Tryingtomakeit390]

I thank God for him allowing me to find this channel. It brightens my spirit to hear such a thoughtful and Bible based pastor cover real world issues with grace, patience, and assurance.

[@neatstuff8200]

Wish we all had one like pastor John. Sadly he is 1 in a 100. Pastors take note. You need more than a nice sermon that pleases all on Sunday.

[@danawooldridge1553]

I have never been able to understand what it means to be submissive until I listened to this. Thanks you. I am sending this to my husband right now

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

That is because what Pastor John says is completely wrong and a deadly error. He is sinning. Submission means you are to submit (obey) to your husband as unto God. Your husband is Go's annointed leader in your family and it is your duty to place him there. Nowhere does the Bible order him to lead. It orders you to follow Eph 5 and I Peter 3. Read, don't listen to the deluded.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@geenonar I am referring to the Christian Bible which neither you or John Piper seem to have read. Please quote any verse that commands the husband to lead!!! Look specifically at I Peter 3:1-7 where a Christian wife married to a unbelieving man who is not under God's command is told explicitly to submit to her husband in hope of reaching him for Christ. If instead of insisting on being such an obnoxious "twart" as you put it, you would actually read the Bible occasionally, you might learn something.

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 BRAVO! "Proclaim the word; be urgent in season [and] out of season, convict, rebuke, encourage, with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time shall be when they will not bear sound teaching; but according to their own lusts will heap up to themselves teachers, having an itching ear; 4 and they will turn away their ear from the truth, and will have turned aside to fables". 2 Timothy 4:1-4 (Darby)

[@MrPatdeeee]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Amen, amen and AMEN! For the only reason she liked what the channel said. But as you say, she is badly mistaken as the channel owner is. For he has caved into the lies. Sad, but true. And Jesus punishes for EVERY Sin for 7 times. Unless they flaunt it and then Jesus 10 X 7. Beware females and males. Thank you John for replying as you did. You were as right as the Born Again's will be ushered to the "right" hand of Jesus on Judgment Day. AMEN!

[@PotterSpurn1]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 How can you follow someone who isn't leading the way? 😁🤣

[@HeatherDMorris]

A wife should never follow her husband into sin.

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

Correct, but apart from that, she is instructed to be obedient in all things to her husband. "22 Married women, submit to your own husbands as if to the Lord; 23 because a husband is the Head of his wife as Christ also is the Head of the Church, being indeed the Saviour of this His Body. 24 And just as the Church submits to Christ, so also married women should be entirely submissive to their husbands. Ephesians 5:22-24 (WEY)

[@framboise595]

@ Heather D.Morris Fun fact , it is a man who followed the woman into sin . Adam , rings a bell ? Women are almost always first in sin .

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Yes, BUT the wives don't get to redefine "sin" as anything the wife does not agree with. That makes the wife not only the leader, but god herself. If he wants you to become a prostitute or rob a bank - SIN. If he disagrees with you on child rearing practices, the color of the drapes, or the amount of time you spend shopping -- NOT SIN.

[@framboise595]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Wife = GOD today. You said it ! You said what I keep saying all the time ! Women are allowed to redefine everything , from their own female position to sexual morality ( the lie of consent) , to their role in marriage etc... The way Piper panders to my own gender makes me feel nauseous.

[@Krshwunk]

And a husband should never follow his wife into sin ... or ever actually.

[@selly-123-w6q]

Thank you for this podcast Pastor John. God is at work through your ministry. ♥️

[@vusisemwayo]

Totally agree with this. When a wife submits to her husband, he will naturally lift her up to be by his side / his equal, his confidant. But the problem these days with all the equal rights and feminist stuff going around, the woman tries to take on that headship role in the household, which is not her God ordained position causing conflicts.

[@valev3729]

vusisemwayo There are many problems involved, I think. What you see most often may depend on what you’re most surrounded by. However, alongside women who try to be the head of a home, I see unmotivated men who submit to wives because they couldn’t be bothered to lead, men who abuse of their authority in a way that is not gracious at its heart, or loving (often due to ill-natured examples witnessed throughout their life), men who treat their wives as though they have nothing to bring to the marriage, and women who refuse to offer opinions, ideas, and proactive support to their husbands because of their own insecurities, rather than proactively supporting through healthy submission, as described in this podcast/video. Also, many women I know who battle for feminism have been abused or trodden upon in some way, and therefore feel that they must defend themselves. (No one else seemed willing to, aside from fellow women). Insecurities, unhealthy experiences, and inaccurate concepts can lead to difficulties in this area in either side of the marriage- and what seems to be an almost superficial movement of feminism doesn’t seem to be the root of these difficulties in and of itself.

[@michaeldukes4108]

Valerie Vasquez ... So in a question that pertains to a woman’s role and behavior in a marriage, we can somehow, suddenly, turn it into a discussion of how men are to blame forrrrr... something or other.

[@valev3729]

MICHAEL DUKES Hun, it’s not about issuing isolated blame. It’s about partnership. One person being good enough in their role, does not guarantee that the other will rise to the occasion in their own roles and duties. One doesn’t exist apart from the other in the context of marriage- and I don’t believe it can be properly analyzed in such a way.

[@jesuslovesmegalatians2205]

@@valev3729 a husband is supposed to be head of the household and the inverse of this would be a pevrsion of God's plan for a family , if you think this is not egalitarian and unjust or patriarchal then you can also use this logic to criticise biblical view on homosexuality. our God is just true and holy God he is not a respector of persons ( ie he shows no favouritism to a particular gender , race, rank etc) Don't make gender a issue for when the new heaven and earth comes there is not going to be a male or female gender we are all going to be equal children of God because of our lord Jesus christ's obedient sacrifice on the cross. God before the creation of the world ordained that his only begotten son would be sacrificed cut-off from him , as an atonement sins of the world. yet if jesus would have question what God has ordained ie stating how is it just for a righteous man to suffer God's warth and die a horrible death for the sake sinners, we could never partake in the divne nature of God or spent eternity with him . similarly Jesus also expets us to obey God's ordinance however hard or unfair it may seem. This is what jesus meant when he said if anyone wants to be my desciple he must carry his cross and follow me. cross referss to subduing our carnel nature that wants to rebel against God or obeying him

[@michaeldukes4108]

Valerie Vasquez ... Don’t patronize me by calling me “hun.”

[@rosanamartinsafonso4028]

Thank you so much Pastor John and Tony! Thank you!

[@danieldeluca4936]

He tickled your ears, didn't he!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@danieldeluca4936 yep, told her the lie she most wanted to hear.

[@katlegomolokoe4437]

Profound and full of Grace.

[@masego3152]

I don't understand why the wife must submit instead both partners submit to each other in their marriage. At the end of the day we are equal in His eyes. It further perpetuates the misconception that men are superior in the church. If someone has authority over me that makes my opinions, suggestions/ ideas lesser than to some extent, so why even consider it if he's going to make the final decision. I really want understand this topic in the Bible but I find it difficult. Already women are SO underrepresented and mistreated in the word and this is just the cherry on top. Shouldn't marriage be based on complimenting each other's strengths rather? I know that its God's word and I should just follow it as a Christian but I don't believe in just following commands blindly, I want understand why I'm following something and that's the beauty of our faith, we can ask questions. So why must I submit to my husband someday? Why must I as a wife, who has the value in His eyes as my husband, have authority over me? Am I not mentally equipped to make big decisions? Why can't we both submit to each other and why we both lay our lives for each other as well if we are equal?

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Masego, Here are the reason to obey God in this: 1) You are not God’s equal. If God asks you to do a thing, you do it even if you think it is silly. God tests your obedience. Take the story of the Syrian general Naaman and Elisha in 2 Kings 5:1-19. Washing in the Jordan was silly as a cure for leprosy, but it was what God commanded and it worked. 2) All human organizations greater than one have a leader or there is chaos and a constant struggle for power and control. War hurts everyone. The followers must submit to the leader or there will be constant war. You can submit voluntarily as God tells you to or you can subdue or be subdued. There is no middle option. Co-leaders fail at the first disagreement. There is no such thing as consensus. This is a modern lie. 3) You are not your husband’s positional equal in the family nor his “partner.” You are his “Helpmeet” or assistant. Gen 2:18. Assistants do not lead. You are not your boss’s positional equal at work even if you happen to be smarter than he or she is. This does NOT mean you are subhuman or a lesser human being or a slave or that God does not see you as of equal value. But you are a subordinate. Most people are someone’s subordinate. You are not to submit to all men, only YOUR husband, just as at work you do not take orders from other people’s bosses. At that level you ARE an “inferior” without actually being inferior in essence. 4) Women in their childbearing, pre-menopausal years go biochemically insane for large portions of each month. Yes, I went there to the elephant in the room no one is allowed to talk about anymore. How insane varies from woman to woman but it is true of all women to one extent or another and you know this. PMS is a fact, Jack. No matter how intelligent you are, you make lousy decisions during PMS, it is just HOW bad that varies. You are medically and emotionally unfit to lead during that time period. Even a drunk man makes better decisions on the whole and like the drunk, the PMS woman often does not even remember what she did under the influence. I have had girlfriends like that. Friends don’t let friends lead or decide while PMS. Between PMS, pregnancy, menstruation, and menopause, women as a whole are emotionally and physically unfit for leadership for large periods of their adult life. It is just biology. If a man came to work drunk, you wouldn’t let him make life-altering decisions under the influence. A drunk can stop. A woman cannot. Men and women are NOT interchangeable. 5) The old system of male leadership in the family and church worked well for over 1900 hundred years and produced stability with minimal abuse. The feminist “experiment” of “equality” of the last 60- 100 years has been a disaster of gender warfare, broken families, mis-raised children and endless abuse. I say we go with what worked well for 1900 years and screw the failed experiment. What say you? Or do you like chaos? If you are PMS, please wait until afterwards to decide.

[@dominiqueharry7436]

God is a evil control freak

[@cisco1dog]

Submission does not indicate value, it indicates the position God has given us each to fulfill.

[@Susan-fg3nv]

A full study of the Bible and womwn would help a lot. Of all things you spoke womwn being misrepresent by God is untrue. Just look at our bodies. We also can achieve an O for pleasure! If God were a God who didn't care we would not have a clitoris on the outside of our body or one at all!!! God made sure women were protected. And the next question is Are we equal? No. As humans who need a Savior yes. As humans male and female no way.

[@Ken-ur8kt]

Responsibility has to come with authority.

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

Unless it is against the commands of Christ women must obey their husbands in "EVERYTHING" as is instructed of ALL humble and quiet spirited "Daughters of Sarah"... "22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord . 23 For the **husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head** of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing" Ephesians 5:21-24 (KJV)

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Yes, and the wife is to give that authority to the husband by submission to him as God's appointed viceroy. Notice the man is not commanded to lead but rather the wife is commanded to follow. Pastor John and most "modern" preachers have this completely wrong because it is women who mostly pay their fat salaries. No Husband can command without authority. It is asking him to do the impossible and that God never does. This screw up and not pornography or "bad male leadership" is why half of "christian" marriages end in divorce now. We are not doing real Christian marriage.

[@framboise595]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 How can a wife "give that authority" ? Is she God ? It is God who gave men this authority. Man IS head no matter what . He is not head because the woman lets him be !!!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@framboise595 Isabelle, you are correct in theory but wrong in practice. Yes, God has told the wife that her husband is in charge and wields God's authority by right in the family. However, in practice, IF that woman rebels against that delegated authority, she rebels against BOTH God's authority and her husband's . If she does not recognize (might be a better term than give) her husband's authority, that authority pretty much does not exist in any real and practical way. In the past the state recognized the husband's authority and backed him up. Once also the Church recognized the Husband's authority and provided him temporal backing censuring disobedient wives. Neither of those things happen anymore. That leaves direct divine intervention with God punishing the disobedient wife - something God rarely does. What is left to the husband at that point is force or leaving. In a male relationship someone challenging authority would be put back in their place with force or threats of force, either physical or financial. We do not allow that with women so that leaves leaving or surrendering. You cannot "love" a woman into obedience. That is just another way of surrendering. This is why Paul instructed the wives in their duty to submit first. Husbands are not free to love their wives sacrificially until those wives submit. Christ cannot save us no matter how much he loves us until we submit to him. All He can do if we refuse to submit is subdue us in the end when "every knee shall bow whether it wishes to or not. That bowing, however, "ends in Hell. But God can do anything, can't He?" No, he cannot and will not take away the free will He gave us.

[@gu3sswh075]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 you’re saying the husband has to ask the wife for permission to be a man? That’s the problem! That’s why marriage didn’t work nowadays. Men don’t know how to be men. Women don’t know how to be women. Men are designed to be masculine. Women designed to be feminine. It’s literally that simple.

[@charz9666]

This is something my husband and I still argue over. He is a passive person with no leadership but tells me I am not a submissive wife.

[@dwainmcbain5263]

why did you marry him? you are the influencer so influence...does he feel like leading? show him what it looks like and avoid berating him over it.

[@charz9666]

@@dwainmcbain5263 thought it was right at time.

[@joshdove5017]

Pray for your husband and forgive him for his lack. Look for opportunities to invite his feedback and follow it whenever you can when not violating God's law.

[@mahlatselekoloane3340]

Both be intentionally learn what it means to be a leader and a submissive wife biblically❤

[@temiloreo.4414]

So sorry to hear this ❤️ I hope this has gotten better. May God help you in this.

[@melodyliew4025]

Summary 1. God's way of submission and headship is the path of joy 2. Marry a man humble and mature enough to lead biblically 3. Submission is mainly an intelligent, happy wive's support for that leadership 4. Submission is responsiveness to husband's initiative taking (not full control but involves you in planning of family life) 5. " I trust you to do what's best" 6. Submission means ultimate submission to Jesus and NOT following your husband into sin

[@danieldeluca4936]

But Pastor John redefined submission to mean something other than God's way of submission. His definition, is that you finally relent, if you haven't worn your husband down after four days of arguing. That is sad. Unfortunately, it is not as rare as Pastor John claims that it is, and if it is rare, all too often, it is because the husband relented first. I know. I speak from experience, and I learned how to lead, by recognizing that form of rebellion, and calling it out for what it is.

[@framboise595]

@@danieldeluca4936 They almost all redefine everything that is godly in order to fit the feminist agenda that is screwing our western nations. They redefine submission but not only. They also redefine sexual morality and turn patriarchal sexual order into the matriarchal sexual disorder feminism wants our modern civilisation to experiment. As such , they put the notion of sexual "consent" above anything , teaching that women have free will and married women own their bodies. Pure feminist dogma taught in pulpits ! They also use the feminist rhetoric like women are not "objects" . They wilfully overlook the fact that sex has been taken out from marriage and spread on public places (magazines , pornography and so on) by women told that they are "free" . They always avoid teaching sexual obligation in marriage because you know , women are godesses (God's will does not matter anymore) and woe to you if you treat a woman like a "sexual object" . Your wife has to be cherished , catered to and above all IN CONTROL .... The fact is , they do all they can to put sex in the hands of women when the Bible puts it in the hands of men . Total feminist redefinition and inversion . In other words , in our matriarchal decay , being a voluntary slut is good but being raped is THE sexual crime ! And this is more or less what is preached today . It is unbelievable.

[@PotterSpurn1]

That sort of marriage belongs to cloud cuckoo land. I think you'll find that most complementarian marriages look different from this model.

[@jenniferfisher8953]

“He takes initiative. Let’s….” It’s not not listening to your wife’s opinion or talking/discussing, that would be contrary to being heirs together of the grace of life. Not comprehensive control involves her in the planning of the family life.

[@fanyi1981]

A wife will never follow her husband into sin.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

What sins is your husband leading you into? Disobedience to your husband is a sin against the God who commanded you to submit to him. If he is ordering you to kill or steal, then you may have a point, but why dd you then marry an evil man? Read Eph 5 and 1 Peter 3

[@AnnoyingMoose]

You should Google "Karla Homolka".

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@AnnoyingMoose Yes, Moose, occasionally a wife WILL follow her husband into gross sin. But by far, most wifely disobedience has nothing to do with a reluctance to disobey God. Rather they just do not want to obey anyone, much less their husband. God is just an excuse. This is like the rape and incest objection to banning abortion - it is the rare exception not the rule and if the loophole is granted, suddenly all unwanted pregnancies magically become the result of rape and incest. Wives also lead husbands into sin. You might google the stories of Adam and Eve and Ahab and Jezebel.

[@framboise595]

@ Wei Gao Fun fact my dear , it is a man who followed his wife into sin and that's how we lost paradise and the opportunity of eternal life !

[@elianaanola612]

@@geenonar Definitely not, obey The Most High first always

[@neatstuff8200]

Perfect biblical teaching. Let's assume one person is a workaholic. The other is so sick of it that they are ready too leave. Goes on for a decade. They not filling their role. That is sin. Now what? Thank you.

[@heatherluna5075]

Put God First and you’ll always put spouse second. 💟💟💟

[@TheRealBean18704]

This happened with my parents and it ended in their divorce. Let me clarify in saying that they were unequally yolked, and my father committed adultery/ abandoned us, so biblically it was justified. I would encourage you as a child of parents who were like that (no clue if you have children or not) that you would surround yourself with GOOD, Godly counsel and community through a local body of believers. Restoration, repentance, and growing in respect for one another is only possible if you are getting outside of your struggle, admitting where things are going wrong or getting exhausting, and allow someone who has walked through that to be with you and hold you and your spouse accountable. I never saw my parents do that until they were beginning to fall apart. My dad would isolate, and my mom was always the "let's" partner (as said in another A.P.J. episode). I wonder how you're doing now that it has been a year since you commented! I hope these words were encouraging somehow. This issue of marital roles/ biblical gender roles has been a STRUGGLE of mine my entire life it feels like, so I'm passionate about it. Anyway, I hope things have been going well!

[@Susan-fg3nv]

As a born again woman a praying wife is the greatest weapon. God says he will give you the desires of your heart. Also we have a older self to think about. Is the work to achieve a nest egg and protection? Is there a savings? This is an emotional question you brought up and one that I know well. What we tend to do is be critical because he is not doing what we want. A believr job is to do what God wants. If a man is not going to church or praying then a wife can go to God and pray for him because her and God are on the same page and God will answer

[@Anjel721]

Submit to your husband as the church submits to Christ.

[@Shinjiwwl]

Amen. Men should submit to Christ and be humble to correct themselfs and learn how to lead and love their wife the best they can. I advice young men to spend time in ministry. You learn a lot and grow character to be a loving future husband.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

No, this is nonsense. Most men are not in formal ministry and ministry does not teach anyone how to lead. it teaches you how to follow. You might as well learn how to cook by chopping down trees. Yes, Christian men must submit to Christ, but this does not mean it is their fault if their wife does not submit to them. Husbands are not commanded to lead. Find me a verse that says so. Wives ARE commanded to submit to and follow their husbands. Pastor John is 100% wrong here.

[@dominiqueharry7436]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 submitt mean be a slave and not be intelligent because they will no longer be child like for control

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@dominiqueharry7436 No, Harry, submit does NOT mean being a slave. It simply means acknowledging the other person's authority. That can be a parent, a boss, a teacher, a law officer., etc. It is this Satanic lie that willing submission somehow = slavish subjugation that is causing all the resistance to submission. There are two main ways of establishing leadership that are quite different. 1) Submission: The followers willingly agree to follow orders for the sake of orderliness or respect of the leader. ex. Jesus' "disciples" chose willingly to Follow his lead even though at times they disagreed with his decisions. John 11:16 Jesus did not have to arm wrestle them for the position or subjugate them into slavery. They were free to leave, but if they stayed, they obeyed. 2) Subjugation: The leader rules by brute force. In WWII we subjugated Germany and Japan. They gave in, not because they chose to but because we rubbed their noses in the dirt and parked armies on their territory for decades. You are free to leave subjugation only if you can defeat the leader in battle of some form. Sometimes submission is to DELEGATED authority. The boss you respect appoints a representative to wield the boss's authority. You may not like the representative but you respect the boss's choice. Submission to the boss includes submission to his representative. This is submitting to the office or rank. Marriage can involve either form of submission. Hopefully a wife or those who chose for her (parents) were wise enough to choose a husband the wife can gladly respect and submit to for his own qualities. If not, or during those times when all husbands are less than perfect, the Christian wife submits to the husband God appointed as HIs representative in the family. The Christian wife submits because God who she freely submitted to tells her to. Failure to submit to her husband is failure to submit to God who the husband represents.

[@framboise595]

@ Shinji Li "and love their wife the best they can" What on earth does that mean ? Love is such a subjective thing ! It's nothing but emotions as usual. We are run over by emotions today. Just consider how men in the Bible also regarded women as objects of pleasure and reproduction and how efficient it was for the people of Israel because they grew and multiplied ! Now that men are told 365 days a year to "love" their wives and "pray " with them , where are the births ? Where has the sex gone ? We are just dying out in the West because of that and we will be replaced sooner or later by foreign manhoods.

[@michaeljacobs4329]

What Piper says at 3:20 used to be true but is not so anymore. People - even men - still believe the lie that somehow it's still the man's fault: if the husband would just lead perfectly, the wife would be "happy" to submit. The wife is still just the "innocent victim." That's simply NOT TRUE anymore. My wife didn't submit to her parents when she was a child, will not submit to Christ now, and definitely will not submit to me. I didn't know much of this when I met her and didn't realize the importance or enormity of it until I came to the Lord.

[@Contrarian-v7p]

Actually, if you look at most Christian books/videos on the topic the onus is always on the WOMAN to fix the marriage through continual submission and obedience to her husband regardless of his quality of leadership. You had terrible judgement when it came to picking your wife but that's on you buddy. Your experience isnt the normative standard. Grow a pair.

[@michaeljacobs4329]

@@Contrarian-v7p The "grow a pair" was unnecessary, but I agree with your comment on Scripture.

[@fordaculture_]

@@michaeljacobs4329 sorry for his rude reply. I will be praying for you and your wife. God bless.

[@michaeljacobs4329]

@@fordaculture_ My sincere thanks to you. Unless God makes Himself and His will clear to her, it's probably over.

[@framboise595]

@@Contrarian-v7p That is absolutely not true . Most Christian books today are infested by a demonic feminist spirit that encourages wives to be in control .

[@daniel.adeyemi]

A well rounded view on the issue.

[@joehouston2833]

@S Fatima Prophet Solomon? Since when? He was a king.. And Mohammed (Pigsbug) is a false prophet..

[@joehouston2833]

@S Fatima Solomon was a sinner a king.. NOT a prophet.. Mohammed (Pissbuh) is a false prophet sent by satan.

[@joehouston2833]

@S Fatima Al lah cant save you.. Mohammed (Pissbuh) cant save you.. Gibril cant save you.. Black stone cant save you.. Repent now or face eternal damnation for your sins before the son of man returns!!

[@joehouston2833]

@S Fatima You are a SLAVE to your Pagan Moon God, Al lah.. I am a child of mine, Yaweh.. Remember.. in the Quran, Al lah has NO Children so he cannot be a "Father" .. Your Pagan Moon God has 99 names and Not 1 means "Saviour".. Al lah couldn't save his Bible from humans.. his favourite "prophet" or YOU.. I feel sorry for you.. You're slowly perishing and you dont even know it.. You need Jesus, He is the one who WILL COME TO JUDGE You.. Mohammed/Allah and the Black stone.. Repent now!

[@joehouston2833]

@S Fatima1. Jesus means God Saves 🤣 2. It was the TRUE prophet Isaiah who spoke about the Son of God dying on the cross and redeeming the sin of the World by RESURRECTING ON THE 3RD DAY.. Jesus CONQUERED DEATH AND HAS RISIN! HALLELUJAH!.. where is Mohammed? (pissbuh).. 🤣🤣🤣 3. Your Pagan Moon God-Propeht has 99 names and not 1 means Saviour.. Your useless God couldn't even protect his bible or his favourite "prophet" from dying like a rat🤣 4. You worship the EXACT same cube the Pagans worship and kiss the same black stone the Pagans kissed.. ONLY GOD CAN FORGIVE SINS! 5. AL LAH IS MOHAMMED (Pissbuh) and I feel very sorry for you on the day of Jugement.. you will perish in your sins..

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

It's sad that supposed "Christian" men are offended that anyone says they have to do anything but boss their wives around.

[@danieldeluca4936]

It's sad that this pastor completely avoided the topic of submitting to your husband, and where he did address it, he completely redefined the meaning of the word "submit" to fit the desires of his audience.

[@danieldeluca4936]

@@Contrarian-v7p It is no wonder men no longer want to go to church. The only men in church nowadays, are Beta Males. IT is the church's fault. They, along with Pastor John here, have watered down the truth of Scripture and it is to their shame that they have done so.

[@Contrarian-v7p]

@@danieldeluca4936 I just shake my head at men like you. The original Greek shows a VERY different picture than the English. You are the type who would probably call ACTUAL biblical manhood -men who follow Christ's example and bloom fruits of the spirit such as love, faithfulness, long suffering and kindness -a beta. Nothing more off-putting than a man who is so insecure in his own masculinity he has to employ that kind of terminology. Men like you seem to get off of power trips and believing you have all the authority in the universe when that was the exact opposite of what Jesus preached. And dont worry -stats show that more WOMEN are actually leaving the churches despite the leadership still being overwhelmingly male.

[@caitlinmaynell2780]

@@Contrarian-v7p shouldnt you let God make that decision?

[@caitlinmaynell2780]

@@danieldeluca4936 I agree. Submission is a choice but it is still submission, men should lead, women should help the men.

[@publicusxray]

Will you speak more on the commands of God, vs the response of the wife to her husband's leading. I feel it's a lot deeper than a response. A lot of times it's implied that the submission is based solely on how well the husband leads, or performs, which leaves things wide open to interpretation by either the husband or wife on how well the husband is doing. For example, Christ is the most perfect husband ever, yet our responses to Him are often less than submissive and sometimes outright rebellious. Does that mean that Christ is not being the perfect husband? By no means! Both husband and wife are commanded by God to love and accept our roles and wholeheartedly desire to fulfill them as unto Him, regardless of how the other performs or does not perform. That's the bigger picture, isn't it? Christ and the church.

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

BRAVO!!! Unless it is against the commands of Christ women must obey their husbands in "EVERYTHING" as is instructed of ALL humble and quiet spirited "Daughters of Sarah"... "22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord . 23 For the **husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head** of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing" Ephesians 5:21-24 (KJV)

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Yes, Pastor John's words are evil and a perversion of the clear commends of scripture in the passages cited. It is this false teaching of feminist theory that is destroying families inside the church as well as out. Wives are to obey their own husbands as the anointed representative of God Almighty in their family. If their husbands are truly asking them to sin, then let the wife take that to the church for investigation and if need be let the men of the church rip him a new one and get him straightened out.

[@publicusxray]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 I disagree with your thought on this. I agree with pretty much everything Pastor John says. The other "disagreements" tend to be over minor interpretations of things. I believe John Piper to be a faithful, humble man of God. My thought on the roles of husbands and wives and how the church comes alongside marriages, is that much of the low hanging fruit/easy issues tend to reside with the husband. It's easier to see abuse, overbearing attitudes and other overt characteristics in a marriage vs covert rebellion and undermining of the marriage, which wives tend to me more inclined to. My main thrust is the church holding husbands and wives accountable to the roles God has given and the fulfillment of those roles, regardless of the performance of the other spouse. For His elect, Christ never ceases to be our husband. He never abandons. Never forsakes. We are His. Our desire to fulfill our roles, is because we are changed from the inside out. I would just like there to be more invested in the area of God's calling to faithful marriages based on God's given roles, rather than spousal performance.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@publicusxray Moo, exactly what is it you disagree with me about? A Christian wife asked John Piper what proper submission to her husband should look like and ha launched into a 10 minute tirade of feminist man bashing and never answered her question. That was pure evil. That question was from Eph 5. Let's turn to chat 6. What if it had been a 14 year old asking if they had to submit to their parents and Piper had launched into a tirade of parent bashing? Is that okay too? Does it answer the question asked? No! I'm 64. I have served Jesus for over 50 years all over the country. I was a pastor. I don't see many Christian men beating their wives, or lording things over them. If I did I would bring them to task. I do see most "Christian" wives openly not covertly in rebellion against God and their husbands. Many of them have confessed to it in this comment section I hear men bashed from pulpits all the time for things that often are not even there fault. Women are untouchable. Piper is not a Christian. He does not follow plain Christain teaching on a very important subject. He is a feminist. He has a lot of company in the pulpit these days. It's not me you and St. Piper disagree with. It is Paul and Peter. Eph 5 and I Peter 3.

[@publicusxray]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 John Piper is not evil in the sense that he is willfully disobeying or going against the Word of God. He is a man of God and I will stand with that any day. I just think it's easy for pastors, leaders and the like to gravitate toward the easy stuff. He has spoken plenty of other times about the responsibilities and roles of the husband and wife. What he said wasn't evil. He didn't spend much time at all where I would have hoped. I think you should be careful how you label others- especially ones of the same faith. He is not speaking heresy. I think that if you were to try to correct a brother from something you believe is not scriptural- you must do it in love. You are not doing this. John Piper is a lot of things, but not an evil man in the sense you are trying to make him out to be. Let's work together for proper exegesis and give grace when we feel others may have missed the mark.

[@Necr0Kat]

Good word, pastor!

[@danieldeluca4936]

That so called "good word", was nothing but his own opinion. He is afraid to offend anybody, so he completely watered down the truth. I don't know if you are married, or if you are male or female so I'll just say this. If you are a husband, I pity you, if your wife argues with you for four days, wearing you down, and if you are the wife, I pity your husband.

[@Necr0Kat]

Daniel DeLuca you good, brother?

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

No Daniel is just fine. And he is correct. This teaching is the exact opposite of scripture. Wives are ordered to submit to their husbands no matter how well or poorly they lead. Should children only submit to their parents if their parents lead the way the children want?

[@aikozoe6598]

respect for the spouse goes both ways and it is the very same respect. man should respect his wife just as much as the wife respects her husband. the same way. The Bible says the husband is supposed to submit and obey his wife just as much as the wife should submit and obey her husband. the husband is supposed to put his wife first. he is supposed to DIE to himself for the sake of his wife. of course God is always first. for the husband and for the wife. there is no question about that. but in case of the husband he should put his wife first. befire himself. the Bible says that the woman is man's helper. that the very same word "helper" was used in refference to God Himself. God is our (people's) Helper. the very word HELPER means in that case that "a stronger one is helping the waker one" - the woman helps as the stronger one to the weaker one. this is what hebrew language conveys. eph 5;21 says KJV: "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God." this verse is very simple to understand. in eph 5;25 we read "Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her" - it is a very easy verse to understand. it says that the husband is supposed to die for his wife. as Christ died for His Bride the Church. Lord Yeshu died on the cross with a lot of pain and suffering and agony in order to serve His Bride, to save her, to make her His Bride. the same way the husband is supposed to die to himself (his well being, his benefits, his pleasures,) and always put his wife's needs, calling, well-being, advantage, progress, happiness before him. men think that they are supposed to love their wives as they please.... no. no, no, no, no...nothing like that...1 cor 13:4-8 shows HOW they are supposed to love their wives: "Love is patient, love is kind, it is not envious. Love does not brag, it is not puffed up. It is not rude, it is not self-serving, it is not easily angered or resentful. It is not glad about injustice, but rejoices in the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. " and SUCH should be the husband's love toward his wife.... also in phl 2;3 we read about relationships "Instead of being motivated by selfish ambition or vanity, each of you should, in humility, be moved to treat one another as more important than yourself." - this is the Biblical model of treatining the wife by her husband. also in mat 20;27 we read about those who want to be first and lead: "and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave" - The truth is that we all are supposed to serve one another, submit one to another, love one another. serving is the lifestyle of Bible believers. this is how we are to live. why? because we follow our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ and the Bible says about Him: "just as the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." (mat 20;28) The Bible more often reminds women about submission because it is their weak point (women are natural leaders. if it wasnt so the punishment for the sin in the garden of eden about the man's rulership (which was done away with by the redemption of the Lord Jesus) would not have been punishment) and the Bible reminds men about loving their wives because it is their weak point but both - the woman and the man are supposed to love and submit and serve one another.

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

Unless it is against the commands of Christ women must obey their husbands in "EVERYTHING" as is instructed of ALL humble and quiet spirited "Daughters of Sarah"... "22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord . 23 For the **husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head** of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing" Ephesians 5:21-24 (KJV)

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

@@geenonar This is what it means. "22 Wives, place yourselves under your husbands' authority as you have placed yourselves under the Lord's authority. 23 The husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of the church. It is his body, and he is its Savior. 24 As the church is under Christ's authority, so wives are under their husbands' authority in everything". Ephesians 5:22-24 (GW) Now when the wife reads that, she will, for her deep love and reverence for God and her husband, will gladly accept his authority and willingly obey him. And the husband will never have to mention his 'headship' to his loving and obedient wife for as long as they both shall live. Would you not agree Gee?

[@elianaanola612]

So if he says to get on your knees and bark like a puppy she should do it? If he wakes you up at 3 Am and tells you to message his feet for 2 hours you she should it? If he was gonna gamble all their savings she should let him? If he was abusing his authority and abusing her she should submit and keep silent? If he was neglecting her and not providing her her food, clothes, shelter should she still submit to him? If he was a pedophile and he was touching their children inappropriately she should let him? The verse never said submit only if he isn't a pedophile We have to stop taking verses literal and use our common sense, if a man is abusing his authority and opressing his wife she shouldn't just submit and allow him to do that 1 Peter 3:7 reads “Husbands, in the same way be 👉🏾 considerate 👈🏾 as you live with your wives, and treat them with 👉🏾 respect 👈🏾 as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.” Colossians 3:19 says, “Husbands, love your wives and do not be 👉🏾 harsh👈🏾 with them.” Ephesians 5:25-29 - “Husbands, 👉🏾 love 👈🏾 your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as 👉🏾 their own bodies👈🏾. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church,“ If men follow these rules then he's not allowed to 1. Oppress her 2. Ask her to do things in a disrespectful manner 3. Shout at her 4. Hit her 5. Treat are like a slave 6. Treat her like a child 7. Go around making decisions and rules without caring about her opinion and feelings 8. Treat her in a way he wouldn't want to be treated Unless a man is following all these rules you shouldn't even preach about the women's role, how are you gonna worry and obsess over her role and you can't even do yours, these dumb ass men If marriage is one sided it won't work, if a husband follows his role and a wife follows her role then it will work. You men have turned submission into slavery. A man who loves his wife, protects her and wants the best for her, he wants to lead her in righteousness not become a freaking tyrant. These men are selfish and do what they want without caring about their wife's opinion, how are you gonna have sacrificial love like the jesus you Christians preach about for your wife yet you don't care about her desires, wants and needs, but only what you want, you selfish tyrants. If a wife wants a green curtain but the husband a blue some men say because he is in charge he gets it his way, I don't believe that's what your jesus would do If men treated their wives exactly how they would want to be treated I guarantee you it will be a different story You men picking and chossing I see 🙄 This isn't all men, just some men, I know there are righteous men out there who are loving and honor their wives and are not complete hypocrites Now go preach to men to do their role also and stop preaching just the womans role Shalom 💕

[@servantofthelord.7963]

@@elianaanola612 In answer for a husband who is not obeying the word of God. The following is the proceedual guidance for their wives. "1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if **any obey not the word**, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation **coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of **a meek and quiet spirit**, which is in the **sight of God of great price**. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in **subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as **Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord**" 1 Peter 3:1-6 (KJV) Amen! Righteous and faithful "Daughters of Sarah" will humbly comply.

[@elianaanola612]

@@servantofthelord.7963 So you think The Most High would want a women to get on her knees and bark like a puppy because her husband told her to? If he was a pedophile and he was touching her children inappropriate should she submit to him and let him do it, yes or no?

[@elianaanola612]

@@servantofthelord.7963 Exodus 21 her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. 11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money. The Most High doesn't say to submit and be neglected does he? A wife can separate from a husband if he is neglecting her, so that means their are exceptions 1 Corinthians 7:11 But if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband. abigail was disobedient to nabal, but she did the right thing. Slaves are supposed to obey their masters but look what The Most High says to do if they escaoe Deuteronomy 23:15-16 King James Version 15 Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee: 16 He shall dwell with thee, even among you, in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him. The Most High didn't punish the slave for escaping, he actually protected him If a woman leaves her husband because he is abusing her or her children I highly doubt he would punish her for it I don't know what God your worshipping you dumb ass gentile probably fake jesus christ (Satan) Shalom💕

[@troymilliken6792]

Just excellent 👍

[@sweetyjones1756]

Pastor John is so right in what he says!.. make sure the man is Godly in all his ways and follows the Lord in all his ways.. being humble, with humility, leading by serving as Christ does. As Ephesians 5:25 love your wives as Christ loved the Church and 'gave himself up for her'.. that's sacrificial love and putting her needs and desires before his own. Also, the husband 'submits' to God in his role as a leader as wives are to submit to their husbands.

[@framboise595]

@ Sweety Jones A man who puts our desires and needs before his is a doormat and huge turn off . The anti viagra at its finest !

[@elianaanola612]

@@framboise595 It's called not being selfish, I guess your jesus was a doormat then 🙄

[@framboise595]

@@elianaanola612 Jesus always put GOD's desires first. The Bible is all about God first , then man . But charlatans like Piper and co make it all about the woman , the new pagan goddess who can never do wrong but is more SELFISH than ever. In case you forgot , God made the woman FOR the man. Not the reverse. Piper and co have it all wrong. What is preached today is total disaster.

[@framboise595]

@@elianaanola612 Jesus did not have sex to perform . He was not married. You see the difference ? You really think that a man who is like those emasculating preachings teach them to be can still perform sex ? As a result , what has marriage become ? Everything but a sin fix. It cannot be a shield against carnal temptations anymore ( 1 Corinthians 7:4/5 ) since the husband cannot regard his wife as an object of his desire , so he cannot perform sex anymore.

[@hopewood2349]

Amazing and well balanced.

[@danieldeluca4936]

Amazing how he completely watered down Scripture by redefining the word "submit", using nothing but his own opinion. Did you not hear him repeatedly use the words, "I think"!!!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Completely out of balance. He has taken the scripture and turned it on its head. He has made the command to wives a command for husbands. A relationship can inly work properly when there is balance. This abomnible lie takes all the responsibility for obedience off of the wives and places it on the hisband's shoulders. This leaves no reason for a man to stay married. He is put in a position where he has all the responsibility and blame and none of the authority or tools to get the job done. A wise man walks away from such a fool's errand. It can't be done. Half of Christian marriages fail largely because of this kind of teaching today. Follow this advice and you doom your marriage.

[@framboise595]

@@danieldeluca4936 Today's "men of God" say I think Men of God i the past said " So speaks the Lord"

[@julieryan8179]

Do you have a Spanish version of this podcast?

[@heatherluna5075]

Get some coconut oil and each give the other a full body massage . Maybe on different days because it’s so relaxing. Always look for something you can give then you’ll feel good about receiving. Read And It was Very Good💟💟💟💟💟

[@benitojohngenitojr.5608]

The Best Submission of Our Souls in Christ is to the LORD GODFATHER in CHRIST because IT Will Make Us to become Good to the World which is HIS LOVE,Being HIS Creations.HE knows what is Good for Those Who Love HIM and HE Knows what is Good for Those Who don't believe in HIM.HE is a SPIRIT and HE Loves the Positive Good Spirits of HIS Children in Christ.Negative Spirits is of the Power of Darkness.

[@CD_2023]

11 minutes talking about what the husband should do. Video says .. “what does a submitted wife look like?” Video is not much that.

[@lnambz]

Beautiful

[@danieldeluca4936]

Disgusting!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@danieldeluca4936 Yes disgusting, distructive and dangerous. This teaching has destroyed the family within the church.

[@mrpj1390]

While I genuinely believe Pastor John gave a lot of great Godly wisdom in this video, there are some shortcomings and I don't believe he did them intentionally. He spoke too much about what the husband needs to do or should be doing. The title of the video should of even been different. The majority of the video was dedicated to what that husband needs to do. The video should of focused completely on what a submissive Godly wife needs to do (as the title suggested), not what a Godly husband needs to do or should be doing. He should of made a separate video for that and then focused on men in that separate video. But this is a video for the Godly wives learning to be submissive. When you have wisdom for one spouse but you constantly focus on what the other spouse should be doing, you open up the door for potential self-centeredness and selfishness. Instead of the wife focusing on what she needs to be focused on, she might instead focus on what her husband should be doing. The same things applies to husbands as well. Both spouses need to be focused on what they individually need to improve to be become a better spouse themselves and and place the other person in God's hands. Unconditional love says "I will do what I should be doing towards you regardless of whether you do it back to me or not". Based on what Pastor John said in this video, some wives might focus too much on the other side and start saying "you need to do this and you should be doing that". Or even worse, they could potentially say "if you don't do this, I won't do that" and this isn't unconditional love.

[@Fakeslimshady]

John Piper, like the rest of Christian pastors these days, love talking about husbands whenever the topic is about wives. This takes skill and practice, like politicians answering difficult questions without actually talking about the subject at hand. The reason pastors do this is obvious: talking about women's duties risks angering women in his congregation, and it's far easier to just spend the time talking about men. This is true not just for Piper, but every church in the West today, and this alone is proof of how far feminism has invaded the church. But back to Piper: this isn't even the first time Piper has skillfully deflected the question to avoid angering women. dalrock.wordpress.com/category/dr-john-piper/ keeps a record of all the times Piper (and other pastors like him) deliberately bow to feminism and women in their teaching.

[@tdb19872]

That's because complementarians are nearly always feminists that know they can't just flat out ignore the main duty of the woman spelled out clearly and repeatedly so they come up with all kinds of clever, Christian sounding ways to attempt to nullify God's clear instruction. I used to think this wasn't intentional but now I see them using the exact same playbook they used for bringing feminism into the church and giving it cover to bring homosexuality into the church. O could be wrong and they could simply be decieved but it's getting very difficult to give them the benefit of the doubt. Coming up with workarounds and weasel words to nullify biblical marriage has caused suffering for countless couples and torn down society. It's time we stand up for solid doctrine.

[@peregrina5208]

My dear sister in Christ, that is because submission comes when a Godly man is present. Thats it..

[@debbiewilder4738]

@@Fakeslimshady So I'm curious why don't you tell us what women should do?

[@Fakeslimshady]

@@debbiewilder4738 Am I a pastor? Is it my job to know the Bible better than others and to accurately point out marital duties in the Bible to the brethren? Do I have influence over others like Piper does? I point out John Piper's bias, and you immediately deflect by redirecting attention on to me, a non-pastor who has no authority nor responsibility over you. Why?

[@openbooktips]

It’s so sad to see how we talk about submission like it’s got some switch we turn on and off. This is not Christian submission, it is rather the feminist model of submission. Just the same way the man’s live for the wife has no switch you turn on and off, the woman’s submission has none. When I are submissive, it’s just in you. Submission doesn’t make you lose your judgement of things. You judge all things, politely and lovingly give your opinion, but the whole modern feminist craze makes the women think she’s weak if she doesn’t do this like a boss lady and this is the cause of many divorces wether we like it or not. Many Christian men don’t do most of the things women generally use as excuse to be rebellious; cheating, beating, physical abuse, etc. but all a modern day woman needs is a little reason to disrespect you as a man because that’s more natural for modern women who are in most cases radical feminists. It’s okay for a woman to disagree and you can do this in love. It’s okay for a man to get angry and make mistakes but must acknowledge this mistakes and try to get better. There’s an African parable that says; No matter how mad a parent is at their child, they will unleash a Lion at their child to feast on them. A man can be really mad but will still play his roles as a husband most if the times but when a woman is mad, the house is hell even though the cause is her anger is her impatience, inability to have her way, selfishness of any form, etc. she still feels entitled to getting angry and when this happens, most women’s feminine roles suffer in marriages. This is why, even when a woman cheats for example, she will still receive all masculine supports from her husband with little to no fear of harm, but if the man cheats and the woman is trying to be all nice and caring, she makes him food, he’s a little worried because he’s scared she has some anger bottled and can unleash it in any way. In summary, just obey the Bible on these matters and not individual interpretations as the Bible clearly discusses this subject. And if you’ve made a bad choice before coming to the full knowledge of Christ, I honestly don’t know what to say to you than to keep working and pray a lot. I think the world easily dismisses the struggles of this category of people in marriage.

[@framboise595]

@ OpenBook " but if the man cheats" Can you show one passage in the Bible where a man is called adulterous for "cheating on his wife" ? Can't you see hwo the church has redefined the very definition of adultery in order to try to legitimate woman's jealousy but the Bible never does that ?

[@elianaanola612]

@@framboise595 That's true, but Cheating is still wrong and betrayal, if you've made your vows to forsake all others then stick to it. The Most High takes no pleasure in fools who break vows.

[@lydiep6814]

Ephesians, Peter I’ve wrestled with these verses for a few years now and struggled to understand them. These are my problems with these verses. 1)men are not God so why do women and churches expect so much from them? 2. aren’t women supposed to be Christ like and Godly 3. The ‘lay down his life’ verses to me indicate that ‘death do us part’ from the man implies that the woman doesn’t have to love him until she dies? 4. Where does the protection party come from biblically because I don’t see it in any of the scriptures? 5. How far does this go regarding making decisions? For example if the husband says “I’d like 3 children” and the woman only wants two does the couple have 3 children because it’s what the man wants? 6. Why can’t a woman look after herself and then have the help she’s giving her husband as additional help? Why do Christian women feel the need to do everything for their husband?

[@Womenswell022]

Thank you sir!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

No, you have just been lied to. Eph 5 and I Peter 3 say plainly that the burden is on you NOT your husband for you to submit to him and obey him. Anything else is a sin against God's plain command. Pastor John lied to you but if you follow that lie instead of reading for yourself, you are at fault. Now you have been warned.

[@Womenswell022]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Thank you for the warning...Let God be the judge.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@Womenswell022 God will indeed be the judge but that does not absolve you of properly evaluating the teaching you accept. Otherwise you will be blown hither and you with every wind of false teaching. Pastor John and I will both face the Judge someday but so will you. Judge well and choose wisely.

[@Womenswell022]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Don't be worried about me John. I am in safe hands. Blessings!

[@2nica2]

A willingly happy response. ❤️

[@danieldeluca4936]

Submission does not always involve happiness. Thankfully, Jesus did not submit to God, the way Piper recommends women submit to their husbands. He did not want to go to the cross, and He shed tears of blood, but He willingly did so anyway. If the church submitted to Christ, the way that women submit to their husbands nowadays, come to think of it, that is what the church has been doing lately, and we are seeing the fruits of that rebellion in Western society.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@danieldeluca4936 Absolutely. This pastor is a false teacher and knows he is. This is nonsense.

[@rissroo4325]

What if the wife knows for a fact knows that the husband’s way could have terrible consequences or is the wrong way? Should a wife still submit in those instances? My ex husband wanted to put in for a job hundreds of miles away in LA when we were still married. We didn’t have any savings to move that far away if he did get the job. I said I didn’t support it, we had too much debt to pay on each month. I didn’t think that there was any way we could even afford to live out there AND pay on our loans.

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

You don't know what it would have led to because you are not God. We can look to Sara for our example, she expressed her desires multiple times but did not make a choice without his guidance. You should have went because how were you to know what God would have had for you and your family in that move?

[@framboise595]

@ Riss Roo If a woman does not submit to her husband , then marriage breaks up.

[@gmohler]

Letting your brain reasoning override your Bible understanding will result in conflict. You can express your feelings to your Husband, pray over it together, but it's your Husband you must follow. He's not leading you to sin!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Riss Roo, you knew nothing "for a fact." 1) All you are saying is that you think you are smarter than your ex-husband who you chose. 2) Actual terrible things did happen to your marriage, divorce, because of your blatant rebellion against your husband. How is that better than the things you imagined might happen?? 3) Making a move to another job or city is NOT a sin. Maybe it would have turned out to be a poor decision but it was not an evil one. We all make poor decisions that do not rise to the level of sin. He made the poor decision of marrying you. If you can only follow someone who always makes the "right" decision then there is only one man in all of history you could marry and that is Jesus and He is already engaged to the Church so he is off the market. Quit listening to John Piper. He is an idiot. Settle for a good Christian man that will be wrong sometimes. We all are.

[@dominiqueharry7436]

Riss Roo im sorry you have brain damaged controll freaks grilling on your situation.

[@delanogibbs7032]

It's a sad situation when 95% of the answer to the lady's question was not actually an answer to her question. We live in a Time where men and women have hundreds of prerequisites before submission takes place. God does not see it this way. Just as God does not give prerequisites to the husband when it comes to loving his wife like Christ loved the church. The best place to start is the scriptures with no prerequisites or conditions besides those that would cause you to sin.

[@MrPatdeeee]

"What Will Submission to My Husband Look Like?" Well Kind Sir...it depends on whether a person believes what Jesus (Who IS God) said; along with what Paul said. OR...the people today that sugarcoat EVERY thing and cave into satan's evils; against most of Jesus' truths. IE: Jesus made it crystal clear in Genesis 3:16 that all women must make her husband her "desires" (NOT the kids or anything else). AND he IS to rule over her. Believe it or not. Not to mention what Paul espoused in Ephesians 5:22-26. Please read them. Now I believe that's the reason Jesus was so harsh on Eve's "punishment"; over what He punished Adam; is because He KNEW that 95% of women; would not let their husbands; rule over them. Thus Jesus (BEFORE that would happen); He would create a punishment that would last to the END of the world. IE: How many times have you heard women saying, "NO man is EVER going to rule over ME! Sure you have. And that is flaunting sins in the face of Jesus, no less! So is there any wonder why women have so many tears, sorrows and pains galore, every 28 days? Think of Eleanor Roosevelt, Susan B. Anthony, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stacey Abrams, Joyce Meyer, Etc, etc and ETC! Could you imagine of any of them; EVER letting their husbands rule over them! Ha! End of Story... ...In any case kind Sir, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN!

[@Kindiakan]

The guy has always the last word: "Yes, dear."

[@danieldeluca4936]

The very definition of rebellion.

[@framboise595]

@ Joel Kindiak Husbands today are taught to be yes men by plenty of wolves in sheep clothing pretending to be God's spokesmen. But as in the days of Jezebel , false prophets are now sitting at the table of proud rebellious feminist women who pretend to follow Christ but just follow Satan.

[@Kindiakan]

@@framboise595 You are right. I'm sorry for my careless and unloving words. Will take more heed to speak graciously in the future.

[@HeatherDMorris]

@@framboise595 like narcisist men pretending to love Jesus and be good husbands then destroying their families

[@HeatherDMorris]

Yes the " yes dear " men are weak and pushovers . Not that you are one , but those men are sucky leaders and not desirable by a real Christian woman.

[@framboise595]

Amazing how this man beats around the bush.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

That's because he is not a man of God and he is preaching insanity.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@geenonar Hey Captain Obvious, no I don't and neither does Isabelle M. I don't like him because he lies to people and tells them the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches. I don't like anyone who does that and an old pastor who does that is particularly obnoxious.

[@Krshwunk]

You didn't beat around the bush ... you didn't even do that ... out with it ... woman.

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

I don't think loving when he leads should be apart of the equation. Why do feelings matter?

[@framboise595]

@ A. Smith Feelings are not as efficient as structure .

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Because the "loving" a man is commanded to do here has nothing to do with romance or feelings. Rather it is about actively instructing his wife in the faith and protecting her. You need to forget what Pastor John told you and actually read Ephesians 5: 25-28 where Paul clearly tells husbands how they are to "love" their wives and it doesn't involve Hallmark, candy, or compliments. No one ever told me this. I had to read it for myself. You just got a free leg up. You are welcome.

[@Krshwunk]

Rephrase your first sentence. It has issues.

[@PotterSpurn1]

Honestly, with the obvious chauvenism and misogyny being on such open display, I would deter any Christian woman from marrying another Christian man. It seems like a pretty raw deal to me. The very attitudes you display below are the very same reasons feminism started in the first place. Clearly, you don't hate feminism enough if you don't hate just as much the reasons why it started. Paul Washer was wrong when he claimed that only women hate women. What was he thinking?

[@framboise595]

@ B G It is absolutely true that only women hate women. Men have never hated women . On the contrary , the love of women has always been their worst weakness.The Bible shows it. The reason why feminism started is because of women's evil penis envy . It all started in Eden when Eve found herself in the leader position instead of defering to her husband.

[@JMusar795]

This is great!

[@Gary-jh3wd]

Amen!

[@sherimoredockmoredock6209]

Thanks pastor John, I love listening to your answers to our questions, I have a problem, I became a believer 2 yrs ago, But I've been married to My husband for 24 years. He is not a believer and gives me a hard time about my devotion to the Lord and the bible. He gains money in a dishonest way and will not submit to God's word. He thinks I'm obsessed with God and My bible because I read every day, I'm not happy in this relationship and I want to leave but we have 6 children. please what should I do?

[@jericawilson1484]

I know I'm late to this, but hopefully you're doing well, Sheri. I'm not married, so I come from a more ignorant perspective. Forgive me for that! But I will say that the other reply is exactly right when it comes to Biblical divorce. You should not initiate, but let him leave if he gets fed up. There is a reason it's bothering him, and God sees your faithfulness. Pray for him constantly, God may have bigger plans for you two than you can imagine. Especially with six children, you must be careful how you portray our Father to them. Depending on their age, they may come to think Christians as lunatics that only care to spend time with other Christians and are content with breaking up families. Unless he's abusive. That would change the situation. Even more important, you must find a community if you do not have one. You cannot run this race alone. The best of us cannot, and your situation is more mentally taxing than many of us have to deal with on a daily basis. If you have no way of doing so, I'd be happy to offer some sort of support there! 5 months is a lot of time, so I hope that things have improved or changed. Above all I hope you are still reading the Bible daily and looking to God for hope. Let us know how you're doing!

[@theologyapologeticslifewit9511]

Sheri, the above answers are wonderful. This may be very difficult for you, and I empathize with you immensely. But this is a cross that God has CHOSEN for you to bear. You may be the very means that God uses to bring your husband and children to Christ. I myself am not married, but my family prayed for me for over 11 years before I was saved. I was not a good person during that time either. Even if your husband and children are never saved, your faith, perseverance, and long suffering will be a testimony to the world of the surpassing greatness of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God knows what He is doing. Stay strong, stay in the word, and stay faithful. And do find a good, Bible-believing local church. God bless you.

[@framboise595]

@ sheri moredock moredock 1 peter 3 is the answer.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@framboise595 Yes this chapter answers this question completely and clearly and completely differnrly for what Pastor John sais. A wife's responsibility is to submit to even a non-believing husband not to be his boss. God is his judge, not you. If he does not know Jesus maybe your behavior will make him want to know, but you cannot correct his behavior. It isn't his biggest problem (not having submitted to Christ is and that is between him and God) and it is not your job.

[@framboise595]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 It is awful how those modern pastors or priests twist everything the Bible says about women's duties.

[@SpiritofProphecy999]

Hmmm

[@swapnam3236]

Fantastic. 🙏

[@matthewmorgan2763]

How to be a sub: 1. Consent is key. Check if your partner is comfortable playing the dom in the scenario, and check with yourself and understand your own boundaries. Ask what fantasy they want to live out and honestly think about whether you're okay with that 2. Communicate those boundaries. Decide on a safeword to end the session if a boundary is passed. Use that safeword if you ever feel uncomfortable. 3. Toys can help spice up the experience. Lube is your friend. To start off, don't use gags, communication is paramount and gags should not be used until a deep amount of trust is built up. Start light. 4. Being a sub doesn't mean you can't enjoy yourself. If you aren't, say so. 5. Read bdsm stories and research if you want to go further. Sunstone is an excellent bdsm friendly comic that is emotional and educational, highly recommend that. 6. Have fun! ;)

[@HeatherDMorris]

This is retarted about the sex stuff. Not clever at all

[@MegaGraceiscool]

lol

[@shebelieves9650]

Asking for a friend. How do you be submissive in an abusive situation?

[@cherishschocolatecrackers221]

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[@cherishschocolatecrackers221]

Hope this helps. And i encourage you to pray for your friend and I'll prat for them to if you'd like?

[@sadelorraine8437]

You leave! Submitting in an abusive relationship is not what God calls women to do. Submitting to husbands who lead with a Christ like love is what we must do, not men who abuse their authority and prey on women. Save your life before you end up in a body bag.

[@earnestlycontendingforthef5332]

Follow the NT instructions: "19 For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. 21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps." 1 Peter 2:19-21 (NIV)

[@hannahi9355]

That's a silly question.

[@melissahaneline6544]

Who decides when one of those rare stalemates has been reached? That's the real question. If you can't decide together on something, then you keep praying for a third alternative you can both accept. That's the Holy Spirit telling you to wait if it's both important & you strongly disagree, not mandate that the woman yeild to keep the husband from getting fussed or feeling uncomfortable with his need to grow up perhaps. This is as close to getting it right as I've seen anyone get when they feel it necessary to have a rule "in case there's a tie" situation. There are no such situations in Christian marriage. None.

[@mrpj1390]

The two of you continue to talk it out unless time is of the essence and yall need a decision by a certain time. In that case the husband makes the call when the time is up.

[@melissahaneline6544]

Like when the sale only lasts until the 15th? No joke, I've seen this kind of nonsense. Please cite an example of real time pressure. Strong disagreement is God telling you to wait. Only an arrogant husband would demand his way on his timetable & call that protection or love. It's neither.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@melissahaneline6544 Melissa that is complete and useless crap. 1) Stalemates ain't rare, they are common. What you are really sayoind is unless your husband agrees with you, he is wrong. 2) Stalemates exist because you are stubborn not your husband who is in charge. 3) God ordered you to submit to your husband's leadership, period, "in all things". 4) Do not blame God for your "strong disagreement." That is just your way of saying your husband is wrong. 5) There are very few cases where no decision is not worse than the wrong decision.

[@melissahaneline6544]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 You seem nice.

[@melissahaneline6544]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 - How do you explain the mutual submission God commands for all believers in the verse just prior to "Wives, submit"? Even if you believe this sincerely, I am still in good standing as my husband and I agree on this issue- we discussed it at length prior to marrying. I dare you to give one good example of such a stalemate where both husband and wife were of good heart, didn't initially agree to a certain course of action and any great calamity came from waiting on God to help. In ALL cases I have seen of this, the best answer presented itself when the two spoke in humility to each other and found a path forward and they did so with harmony, absent hurt feelings and resentment. Often, misunderstanding is at the heart of the issue, and the relationship is deeper and more genuine once real communication happens. Many men are just too impatient and find it easier to just pull rank. Is that you? Jesus said the same when he said He calls us friends... do you have a "head" friend in all of your relationships? I doubt it.

[@kathleenwharton2139]

We are to Submit to God..NOT to People! If you submit to God and your husband is in the Right Place himself..he will recognize it. If you submit to God and your husband has a problem..you are better off without him.

[@justonetime6179]

Agree! Don't go to hell because you're submitting to man.

[@joehouston2833]

Women are subjected to christ and man! Read esphians 5

[@justonetime6179]

it's just me both are to submit (ephesians 5:21) and both are to love like christ (ephesians 5:2)

[@justonetime6179]

it's just me responsible in what way? Isnt everyone responsible for their own actions? Both Adam and Eve were punished, and Adam was not punished for not leading Eve. Maybe I’m missing something?

[@justonetime6179]

it's just me It is Adam’s sin. The woman was only renamed Eve after the fall. God didn’t name her that. Anyway I’m on a journey for the truth, so if what you’ve said is truth and not tradition, then I’ll arrive there too. And thanks for taking the time to explain.