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In our 2022 range test, we find out which electric car has the longest range. Featuring the new BMW i4, Kia Niro EV and Volkswagen ID.5.
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@otleybull
@otleybull Жыл бұрын
I did 210 motorway miles and used 70% of the battery on my E Niro! KIA have nailed the efficiency of their EV’s
@robru
@robru Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my i4 for nearly six months now and have done just over 10,000 miles. It can easily reach over 300 miles on a motorway trip so this video is accurate (in case you needed a second opinion)!
@Vasyok85
@Vasyok85 Жыл бұрын
What size of wheels?
@robru
@robru Жыл бұрын
@@Vasyok85 they are on 19 inch wheels. The only problem with the larger wheels is actually the turning circle which is really bad
@willblack2306
@willblack2306 Жыл бұрын
Inside EVs in the US managed 340!
@davidlewis4399
@davidlewis4399 Жыл бұрын
Try driving faster than 55mph and do it in a few months when it is colder you wont get 250 miles out of it real tests suggest 225 miles for 100% battery.
@robru
@robru Жыл бұрын
@@davidlewis4399 I’ll let you know. I don’t travel at 55mph so it will be interesting to see.
@DariuszTech
@DariuszTech Жыл бұрын
I drove my MG5 standard range with 51kwh battery to the sea side in Wales from milands and back. Family of 5 managing impressive 225 miles with 5% remaining. This car is half the price of most of the EV's from this test.
@Anna-sy2yw
@Anna-sy2yw Жыл бұрын
I prefer gasoline cars to trams, so the power is better and I don't have to keep an eye on whether it will leave me on the road
@DariuszTech
@DariuszTech Жыл бұрын
@@Anna-sy2yw fair enough. I don't do long journeys very often and I prefer EV as I don't like spending money on fuel when I can use free energy from my solar panels at home. Makes running any petrol or diesel way more expensive 😉🫰
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and the new MG4 makes even the 5 look pricey.
@DariuszTech
@DariuszTech Жыл бұрын
@@davidcolin6519 yes. I actually part ex my MG5 and bought the MG4 last month. Brilliant car 😁 Already made a review about it 😃
@firstnamelastname9631
@firstnamelastname9631 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and thorough. It would help to have all the figures in one chart at some point -for an easier visual comparison; otherwise all those numbers muddle up together.
@PiefacePete46
@PiefacePete46 Жыл бұрын
@first name last name : Now that you have pointed it out, yes, that would have been really useful! The video, as it is now is great... leave the figures where they are, but at the end display a page of comparisons for a few seconds, so that those who want to can pause it while we get our heads around the numbers. 👍
@samjanko8946
@samjanko8946 Жыл бұрын
2 months old video? Surely took some sweet time w/ editing! Start filming now your deep winter test edition.
@timothybloomer4246
@timothybloomer4246 Жыл бұрын
If you rank them in order of efficiency the BMW and e-Niro come joint third just behind the Teslas. Our Niro averages 4.1m/kwh driving on eco.
@paulroper4847
@paulroper4847 Жыл бұрын
Hold on - the MG deserves a big shout out for the best value by a mile!
@stum8374
@stum8374 Жыл бұрын
You do know mg's are made in China ! A CORRUPT COUNTRY
@brianmuir9059
@brianmuir9059 Жыл бұрын
I had a MG ZS for 7 months, worst car I’ve ever owned and I’ve had a lot of vehicles. Seriously flawed car in many areas
@paulroper4847
@paulroper4847 Жыл бұрын
@@brianmuir9059 Shame - the full electric or one of the derivatives?
@oliverskinner8962
@oliverskinner8962 Жыл бұрын
@@brianmuir9059 the old ZS or the new zs ? Clearly I've been driving the wrong cars 🤣 because the test drive of the new zs was one of the best cars I've ever driven !
@hotrod182
@hotrod182 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how the i4 is the heaviest, has the widest tires and the most range. Efficiency? Put the smaller wheels on the i4 and it will surpass 4.1 mi/kWh also. At 70mph, the i4 can still achieve 300 miles in real world testing.
@LeeOades
@LeeOades Жыл бұрын
In fairness, the 220 miles of the Cupra Born is still more than enough for most people! Non-EV drivers are convinced they need at least 300+ miles of range before taking the plunge and yet almost never drive anywhere near that far. Just look and see how far 200 miles is from your house, and consider driving all the way there without stopping, having a 10 minute break to fill up with petrol and cracking on for another 200 miles. You just wouldn't.
@Anna-sy2yw
@Anna-sy2yw Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, I also like the gasoline car, so do not worry too much
@ninelaivz4334
@ninelaivz4334 Жыл бұрын
What you say is mostly true except the problem at the moment isn't so much the range but the charge time and having to make sure you can find a compatible charger, and when you do there isn't some moron that's left the cable plugged in when their car is fully charged. BTW they could have easily dealt with that problem by fining morons for every minute they hog the charger. Having said that, in the summer I do about 280 mile round trips so a 300+ range for me is useful. Of course if you can get all your driving done for free then it makes no sense to want to pay for petrol.
@LeeOades
@LeeOades Жыл бұрын
@@ninelaivz4334 Obviously finding chargers at the moment can be a bit painful but the infrastructure is improving all the time. Whenever I've planned my long journeys, I head for areas with lots of chargers so I have plenty of options. A 280 mile round trip I assume means that you're stopped at 140 miles for a while - so probably an opportunity to charge at or near the destination. And if it's only a few times a year then it shouldn't be a blocker for people going electric.
@firstnamelastname9631
@firstnamelastname9631 Жыл бұрын
As other have said, more than the range per se is finding an available/working charger. I always have to save some juice to find a charger.
@willblack2306
@willblack2306 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you!
@erichmercado
@erichmercado Жыл бұрын
Requesting for part 2 for other EVs such as Toyota BZ4X and Hyundai Ionic 5.
@PiefacePete46
@PiefacePete46 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, useful video thanks. In New Zealand, as well as some other countries, the Kia EV6 has a standard--range model that only has a 58 kWh battery... it would not have fared very well in your tests! (Probably why they don't seem to offer it in the UK.)
@antonioragosta5727
@antonioragosta5727 Жыл бұрын
Nice test. Did you have a chance to monitor the charging efficiency as well during the preparation or after the test? Official values are using recharged energy from mains not from battery, there is a significant efficiency in the middle that is worth to know and consider in your shortfall.
@12jamiegavin12
@12jamiegavin12 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how the MG was the second closest to achieving it’s quoted range. Had my MG for a few months now and even though it’s the mk1 with the smaller battery I got 150 miles out of it with a little bit of battery left. Not far off the quoted 163!
@hittori
@hittori Жыл бұрын
i wish there was someone in the USA doing similar test like yours with what is available for us in here.
@grahamsalmons2027
@grahamsalmons2027 Жыл бұрын
Please can you clarify: you drove the cars without preconditioning? Or did plugging them back in enable preconditioning for driving?
@AdrianMcDaid
@AdrianMcDaid Жыл бұрын
Or buy the MG being the cheapest for really good range . 7 year warranty
@matthiasmuller5173
@matthiasmuller5173 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison. Shure you will find a lot of people drove one of the cars a lot longer. But here you can see, same conditions, same chances, wich car is the winner has the highest range.
@666JGNotts
@666JGNotts Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how far they all go at a constant 70 mph
@richardcorns8553
@richardcorns8553 Жыл бұрын
If you drive set your average speed on a trip and see if you can get over 60mph in the UK. Make sure you do it on a 200 mile plus journey to give yourself the best chance to beat this figure.
@666JGNotts
@666JGNotts Жыл бұрын
@@richardcorns8553 Yes that would be fairly easy with an early start driving from the East Midland down to Cornwall. Done it many times myself
@computerbob06
@computerbob06 Жыл бұрын
This is a real(ish) world test though. The figure gained from an all 70mph test would only be relevant for a journey of say 5-600 miles, with 2 stops, where the middle stint would then all be on a motorway/highway. Not many doing those trips in the UK - but plenty of channels do 1000km tests in Europe, although Bjorn recommends to charge to about 80% and only take it down to about 30 to 40% to gain the minimum charge time advantage!
@richardcorns8553
@richardcorns8553 Жыл бұрын
@@666JGNotts Ok.
@xchopp
@xchopp Жыл бұрын
You didn''t include the 2022 Kona?
@Aru1337
@Aru1337 Жыл бұрын
Amy chance for some kilometres on the screen for the many viewers from the mainland who isnt so strong in miles, mpg etc? Pretty please
@kjh789az
@kjh789az Жыл бұрын
Great to have this comparative range testing - thanks.
@yuxuan130411
@yuxuan130411 Жыл бұрын
Great, can you include ID4 and MG4 in future test?
@adriancarey7848
@adriancarey7848 Жыл бұрын
Excellent short and sweet ☺️
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ThePetrolhead94
@ThePetrolhead94 Жыл бұрын
I have a Kia EV6 RWD and I have managed 323miles from a charge It was the height of summer however In winter I would be closer to 300miles
@VishnuKamath
@VishnuKamath Жыл бұрын
Recently got a Model 3. It efficiency is off the charts. I drive conservatively follow all speed limit but i get an efficiency of 4-6 Miles per kWH depending on terrain.
@skyworks1621
@skyworks1621 Жыл бұрын
Just recived the date for pick up for my upcoming model 3 LG. Still the best EV regarding, range, price, performance and spec.
@onathanj
@onathanj 8 ай бұрын
In basically every other test the ev6 have a better range than the id4, so its a matter of conditions and the driver.
@jrushen4235
@jrushen4235 Жыл бұрын
Love the colour of that BMW...
@max-timothy-lev9834
@max-timothy-lev9834 Жыл бұрын
How about the EQE and all of its variations such as the 350+, 350 4Matic, 500 4Matic, and the AMG 53 4Matic...?
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
We couldn't get hold of an EQE in time for this test (filmed in July), but we'll do our best to cover that (or similar) next time!
@victorgrasscourt3382
@victorgrasscourt3382 Жыл бұрын
How do you charge an electric car during the expected power cuts this winter?
@sailingoctopus1
@sailingoctopus1 Жыл бұрын
You charge it at night when electricity from renewables is super abundant and super cheap. Any power cuts caused by patchy gas supplies will happen at peak usage times. Moreover, if you have an electric car with V2L (or poor man's V2L) you can run your house during any power cuts - try doing that with a combustion car.
@davidholden2658
@davidholden2658 Жыл бұрын
how do you pump petrol/diesel during a power cut?
@AdrianMcDaid
@AdrianMcDaid Жыл бұрын
Or how do you produce the petrol using all that power needed to refine it. Charge electric car at night. All is well.
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
There are videos from Kiev surrounded by Russian troops. The country ran out of gasoline very fast. But charging an EV was always possible. Electricity is more reliable than gas supplies
@andysmith9913
@andysmith9913 Жыл бұрын
Why is the Mokka e never included in these tests. It's a great car and starts around £30k
@johnwhite2143
@johnwhite2143 Жыл бұрын
Yep I was hoping the mokka e would be included in test too, apart from the mg zs ev, not everyone can afford to pay 35 to 60 grand for a car, that mokka e is a nice looking car especially in green , I'd happily have one when I go electric, I like the Kia ev6 but it's about 47 grand new , rather get the mokka e for 30 grand ,more car for the money an looks very cool an respect with about 200 mile range which is plenty 👌👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@Ubereme
@Ubereme Жыл бұрын
Which had heatpumps?
@nunohannover
@nunohannover Жыл бұрын
Fact is that driving my X3 30d at „E-pace“ I get 500miles + and make the stops when I want (or need to) and I’m not told by the car how fast, how long I may (or may not) drive. I can drive in a Highway, use a national or even a B-road. It’s incredible how people need to believe their options…I experienced both of these worlds (still have my 2017 MX100D) and now that besides city driving I will not go for electric as long I have other options available….but that’s the point….I don’t tell you what to drive nor anyone tells me what to drive as well.
@johnmoe883
@johnmoe883 Жыл бұрын
You should measure the temperature inside the cars while doing these tests. I bet the Teslas never actually got close to the 21C set on the AC. It saves energy by not actually cooling or warming the cabin properly. In -12C winter testing a Tesla 3 never reached more than +15C inside the cabin even with the AC at max.
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea and easily done. None of our test 10 drivers reported temperatures to be wildly different from 21C, but of course impossible to be sure without a measuring. Thanks
@RayKelly1
@RayKelly1 Жыл бұрын
Good point. Ive the ev6 and if in economy mode the ac is not that cool as compared to normal mode which is icey. I also get 3.6 to 6.1 miles/kw in ev6. In winter time its down to 2.7miles per/kw
@CyAn-S
@CyAn-S Жыл бұрын
@@whatcar maybe next time do not drive each car in a train so close to each other. The car up front will take all the wind while the rest behind it will have a less drag. The Kia EV6 was up front in almost all footage here, that might have affected the range compared to the rest
@GlitterGuru
@GlitterGuru Жыл бұрын
The i4 is impressive. I expected it to fall around the XC40 considering both are not 100% ev platforms
@josefv8708
@josefv8708 Жыл бұрын
Efficiency has nothing to do with the Platform, but the drivetrain...Ioniq, Kona, Niro are ICE Platform cars and very efficient...better than Ioniq 5 as destinct EV Platform. The difference is size of car inside...destinct Platforms are shorter with same Size internal...thats it
@CyAn-S
@CyAn-S Жыл бұрын
and this is with 19 inch wheels. with 18 inch ones it matches model Y at the very least
@aleksandrsirenko9887
@aleksandrsirenko9887 Жыл бұрын
Great result for MG!
@Frosticus453
@Frosticus453 Жыл бұрын
Expected more from the EV6. bigger battery and RWD vs the model Y which is AWD and has much more people/cargo capacity. Hopefully the EV6 was in normal or sport mode at least, if eco mode that is a bit disappointing. i4 is what it is. Huge battery on a RWD platform. I have an sr+ so I like the idea of that format a lot. Nice car, but when I looked at it I barely fit at 6'2. It might have the least passenger space in this entire test?
@Ubereme
@Ubereme Жыл бұрын
It also depends if the ev6 had a heatpump. Most other range tests had very different real world results.
@CyAn-S
@CyAn-S Жыл бұрын
keep in mind, from the footage it seems like the EV6 was up front most of the time and they were driving in a train. So cars behind will have aero advantage... not very scientific if you ask me.
@davefitzpatrick4841
@davefitzpatrick4841 7 ай бұрын
​@@CyAn-Syou might want to watch the video again and actually listen ! They stated each car took a turn on the front for each lap , just because they filmed the Ev6 on the front doesn't mean it was on the front for the entirety of this test .
@Frosticus453
@Frosticus453 Жыл бұрын
Looking again the Model Y absolutely dominated this test. Within a stones throw of the i4 range, but with a smaller battery, way more power, space, towing and AWD.
@berthogendoorn2133
@berthogendoorn2133 Жыл бұрын
you missed Kia EV6 and Hyundai Iconic 5 long range awd
@Dralonet
@Dralonet Жыл бұрын
Miles, comon, kilometers please
@Notagain640
@Notagain640 Жыл бұрын
My Enyaq achieves 30-50 over the WLPT range. It depends on how you drive them.
@lfo414
@lfo414 Жыл бұрын
The same is true of everything. I've achieved 84mpg in a BMW 118d, and also 41mpg in the car, the next day!
@Notagain640
@Notagain640 Жыл бұрын
@Richard Glanville I think most people haven't been forced to think about efficiency before because petrol stations are everywhere and refilling times are short. Driving an EV puts everyone in the same boat more or less, almost irrespective of how much you spend on the car. Now you have to pay with your time, you can't just pay with your wallet.
@BHBeckenbauer
@BHBeckenbauer Жыл бұрын
You make a big thing of the Volvo being the ‘least efficient’ when the BMW iX3 gets the same economy figure?
@nyc863
@nyc863 Жыл бұрын
since home electricity is cheap and charging on the long drives varies from free to v expensive depending on the charge network, why do small differences in efficiency per mile matter that much.
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
Hello - electricity isn't that cheap in the UK right now, so it's certainly more relevant than it used to be. We've had lots of emails about this so thought we'd cover efficiency as well as range.
@spencerlucas5835
@spencerlucas5835 Жыл бұрын
My car is a bog standard 1.2 16v 78hp petrol 2009 corsa mk3, on £30(just over half tank) at £1.41pl at a gulf petrol station I did 232 miles doing 50/50 A roads and motorways. This equals 7.7 pence per mile driving sensible-ish and did near 8.5 hours driving give or take 10 minutes all this was just over 5 days straight. Can any electric car to date do 232 on one bar above half full or travel near 8.5 hrs in one go on one bar above half full, my corsa can as stated above. The government want us in electric cars but no electric car can beat my car for range ( 232mls just over half tank, around 8.5hr driving, just over 5 days straight and fuel light had not come on at this point but, was close to coming on
@FancyaBevMate
@FancyaBevMate Жыл бұрын
Winners should have been judged in order of efficiency and shortfall of their official range. That's the only thing most people want to know how far it will travel per kW/mile whenever I get asked by the public (whilst I'm taking them on journeys in my taxi) in both my BEVs over 5 years. Cheers
@philipc239
@philipc239 Жыл бұрын
What? No Ora Cat? 😅😅
@dickturpin3115
@dickturpin3115 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with your opening statement. My diesel exceeds its quoted mpg figures
@irekfilms
@irekfilms Жыл бұрын
Kia EV6 usable battery is not 77.4 that’s totaal capacity !!
@drmcallis
@drmcallis Жыл бұрын
Basically, a demonstration of how silly WLTP tests are. Useful for comparison only, really, not for how far you can really go. Conclusion: they need better tests.
@lfo414
@lfo414 Жыл бұрын
Why use any figure other than usable battery size?
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure to precisely what your question asks but that would be like comparing ICE car fuel tank sizes without considering that one is attached to a 1.0 Eco 3 pot engine and the other to a V12 no shits given about fuel economy engine. Unless that want the question? :)
@marcoaguiar3226
@marcoaguiar3226 Жыл бұрын
Mg4 will beat everything and everyone for the price.
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
MG4 will definitely feature in our next range test in Jan/Feb 2023! It just missed this one (filmed in July).
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 Жыл бұрын
The BMW i4 can be had for less than £60k
@mikew3623
@mikew3623 Жыл бұрын
While I understand this is a real world test - however in the type of driving you were doing I believe most (myself included) would use the eco mode. My Ioniq 5 comparable to the (EV 6) disengages the front motor in eco mode and I think had that setting been used the EV6 would have done even better
@jaxwins12
@jaxwins12 Жыл бұрын
What is speed? 150-180km/h? Looks like driving with backward speed.
@rhussain0405
@rhussain0405 Жыл бұрын
where is skoda enyaq? they cars sold more then id4
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
They are almost the same
@f1b1777
@f1b1777 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you lot do a Real test say from Brighton to Newcastle or Edinburgh. The. You have to take account of driving conditions not just of weather but other drivers and any traffic issues etc .
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
We have something like this (London to Leeds and back) coming up in the next few weeks. The reason we do our twice yearly 10 car range test at Millbrook proving ground is to keep variables to a minimum - and because running cars out of charge on the public road isn't a particularly safe thing to do.
@stum8374
@stum8374 Жыл бұрын
The economy is the same as ice,the faster you go the more fuel/battery you use.i wished they kept it at 56 mph which is the optimum speed as I'm sure 90% of ev owners do.
@Dreador.
@Dreador. Жыл бұрын
I don’t think a lot of us do
@stum8374
@stum8374 Жыл бұрын
@@Dreador.are you the volvo that comes up my arse at 100mph lol
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Жыл бұрын
A few may do this if you want to eek out the most range per charge, sit in the lorry lane and hyper mile. Though most people aren't going to drive like that so for the general consumer this video is more accurate.
@stum8374
@stum8374 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben.Royals with the cost of energy I would sit at 56-60,I'm not made of money and certainly not going to put more of my hard earned cash in the coffers of Westminster.
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Жыл бұрын
@@stum8374 yeah I can understand that, the mini electric I have on order is incredibly efficient in miles/kWh from what I’ve seen online so just not to wait for it to arrive
@rui569
@rui569 Жыл бұрын
And the Model 3 was introduced in 2017.
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
Hi Rui - it was 2019 in the UK.
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@Erlingmid
@Erlingmid Жыл бұрын
why can't tests like these post the stats with km as well, i get that they're British but it's made for an international audience so why not include them
@maheshwarbhagan405
@maheshwarbhagan405 Жыл бұрын
It want Solar on the top of the car now
@brianmuir9059
@brianmuir9059 Жыл бұрын
Driving a car in a slipstream of another makes a significant difference
@fricatus
@fricatus Жыл бұрын
Very true, but they changed the running order after each lap to take account of this.
@CyAn-S
@CyAn-S Жыл бұрын
@@fricatus they should just not drive in a train...... space the cars out a bit...
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. Жыл бұрын
Who drives that close to the car in front in normal driving?
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
Secret of BMW efficiency
@Richard-io9xe
@Richard-io9xe Жыл бұрын
Audi drivers.
@rp9674
@rp9674 Жыл бұрын
Now we know who killed the electric car(s). Should have hired me to name your videos.
@landro9369
@landro9369 Жыл бұрын
Usles cars for continental or Northern climate. City traffic, stop and fast start...100 times...
@ingopaul67
@ingopaul67 Жыл бұрын
What are Tesla doing that other manufacturers aren't doing to be so efficient ?
@Notagain640
@Notagain640 Жыл бұрын
They are quite aerodynamic. However the Telsa is not a practical vehicle for many people, well not for use anyway. It's also quite expensive for what it is.
@amperformance7998
@amperformance7998 Жыл бұрын
Aerodynamics, lightweight (for an EV), thorough optimisation of drivetrain and ancillaries (where other cars use ICE legacy systems that may not be as efficient). There are downsides, though. The aerodynamic shape is not exactly pretty. Weight reduction means a lack of refinement and noisy interior. I also wonder if Whatcar get their efficiency numbers straight from the car's reporting, or if they measure the energy used against distance driven. ICE cars are often optimistic about the efficiency reported by the car's computer, and I wonder if that may be part of what's happening.
@outdoorolli5754
@outdoorolli5754 Жыл бұрын
@@amperformance7998 ICE cars will never be as optimistic as Elon Musk is even on a bad hair day...
@Notagain640
@Notagain640 Жыл бұрын
@YYpang I mean its expensive compared to the competition.
@raker0
@raker0 Жыл бұрын
comparing different car segment, price and size also without specifying what was the average speed... This test is not useful, i just stating the obvious expected result imo.
@danielbrown4253
@danielbrown4253 Жыл бұрын
Is the bmw i4 m50 any good
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Жыл бұрын
Im sure there are some available for test drive, though they are blooming popular so the wait times (like with most cars still) is long.
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
Edrive40 is fast enough for everyday use M50 is faster but consumes more. Consumption is still good for the real life
@David-Dumont
@David-Dumont Жыл бұрын
GJ
@sale666
@sale666 Жыл бұрын
The i4 should have been driven on 18 wheels it would have had much better range
@niceboy60
@niceboy60 Жыл бұрын
The Issue with EVs is (usable Miles ) 1 - You are not supposed to charge it to 100% often 2- you are not supposed to discharge to less than 20℅ And expect to lose miles in the cold winter Thats close to 100 miles lost
@PeterChinkin
@PeterChinkin Жыл бұрын
No, you're only supposed to charge to 100% (and discharge below 20%) when needed; not never, just with discretion. The truth is that most people will rarely need to use the full battery. When you can charge at home each night it's trivial to operate in the middle 50% of the battery if you want to slightly reduce the long term degradation (many people don't worry at all). Then, when you're going long distance, you just charge to full.
@DavidKent0407
@DavidKent0407 Жыл бұрын
Tesla actually advise charging their standard base RWD Model 3 and RWD Model Y with LFP batteries to 100% once a week. LFP batteries are much more resistant to degradation than lithium ternary batteries. LFP batteries are used in the standard range MG ZS EV and all BYD EVs.
@markgwilt5180
@markgwilt5180 Жыл бұрын
LFP batteries which is the newer tech in teslas and starting to see in others can be charged to 100% and discharge as much as you like as they are much much less effected by thermal deg to the point it drops a battery range over approx 1,000,000 miles just 1% faster than if you kept it at a constant 70% (optimum)
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube Жыл бұрын
You're not supposed to let an ICE car run empty, depending on vehicle can require effort to bleed or manually prime the fuel system again. Plus the fuel pumps are cooled by submersion. Always filling when you don't need to means you're carrying extra weight which reduces efficiency. (But I do understand your original point)
@januariusa7847
@januariusa7847 Жыл бұрын
Why no Ariya?
@norbertmachaj6127
@norbertmachaj6127 Жыл бұрын
because You still can not buy and receive it
@januariusa7847
@januariusa7847 Жыл бұрын
@@norbertmachaj6127 false, it's literally in dealerships all over the UK
@norbertmachaj6127
@norbertmachaj6127 Жыл бұрын
@@januariusa7847 Have you seen them on the streets?
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Жыл бұрын
@@norbertmachaj6127 yeah customers already have them and are taking deliveries
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
It just missed this one (filmed back in July). We'll include it in our next range test in Jan/Feb 2023, though!
@willturner5522
@willturner5522 Жыл бұрын
I have a VW petrol estate and it’ll do 600miles before it needs a 2minute refuel….I can also carry petrol if I need too as well… Oh sorry… this is electric cars only 🤫
@neilaitken1690
@neilaitken1690 Жыл бұрын
Theye are family cars and need tested with a family of four in the car and some shopping in the boot
@quartytypo
@quartytypo Жыл бұрын
People have no respect for their money who pay full price for an EV that is half a car.
@nabeelmajeed4815
@nabeelmajeed4815 Жыл бұрын
I like the Cadillac escalade ESV from 2020 for seeing that it has a Cadillac escalade ESV Electric like 2020 the one day because I like the Cadillac escalade ESV from 2020. 😭
@BMH1965
@BMH1965 Жыл бұрын
You recommend the car with the worst build quality (Tesla 3). The BMW will be the best second hand purchase due to the huge drop in value.
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 Жыл бұрын
I can see why electric cars will not go well in Australia especially in the outback no infrastructure infact there are no electric charging stations in Australia we do have electric cars here and they are recharged st thr drivers house you could not drive to Melbourne from Sydney in an electric vehicle but there are plenty of petrol stations maybe there will be recharging station but don't hold your breath
@RedBatteryHead
@RedBatteryHead Жыл бұрын
Really?! Still driving them down for the clicks 🤦‍♂️ Just run a 100km trip and your there with the consumption value. And airco isn't running that much energy. Some even have heatpump being even more efficient. In an ICE they consume more power.
@whatcar
@whatcar Жыл бұрын
We used to do exactly this, before charging through a kWh meter and extrapolating out to get a theoretical range. It's certainly easier (and less time consuming) but also less robust. In some cars you'd be using a much greater proportion of the energy stored in the battery than in others, and efficiency varies depending on charge level. So, the cars with larger batteries that only use, say, 20% of their battery capacity would be at a relative disadvantage.
@RedBatteryHead
@RedBatteryHead Жыл бұрын
@@whatcar Efficiency change with SoC? Maybe when your dead on last 2% cause of voltage/amp issues going all places. It's not really so much if an impact on a total trip. Seen enough trips with OBD data that have shown proper steady values.
@lanista78
@lanista78 Жыл бұрын
All driving activity in the video show the cars lined up behind each other in convoy. This is called "platooning", especially used in trucking to save fuel as it saves a notable deal of energy for the cars shielded. I am not sure why you are doing this, which certainly distorts the test results.
@monkeypox6579
@monkeypox6579 Жыл бұрын
*_i don't have a problem with my 2007 bmw 5 series. I normally travel from uk to france and back to uk without worrying of getting stuck somewhere without charging station. I don't see the point of buying electric cars and they are all overpriced!_*
@richmondowusu1585
@richmondowusu1585 Жыл бұрын
Why so many excuses and explanations for the Teslas?
@paulsavage6002
@paulsavage6002 Жыл бұрын
Why would you even bother doing this?
@neilbradley1036
@neilbradley1036 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much a waste of time for the average man. They are very expensive vehicles.
@Olivarus238
@Olivarus238 Жыл бұрын
Such a misleading results table! You have to ask yourself, 'why do most people select a particular car?' and, leaving aside those for whom money is no object, it usually comes down to cost and what the neighbours will think to a lesser extent! So, if you are trying to measure efficiency in a way that is relevant to most people, perhaps you should be looking at how much each mile of range is costing you? On that basis, for the cars that you have selected here (and where it isn't clear which trim I've selected the What Car? Pick) the results would be quite different: 1 = MG, 2 = Kia Niro, 3 = Cupra, 4 = Kia EV6, 5 = BMW i4, 6 = Tesla Model 3, 7 = VW iD5, 8 = Tesla Model Y, 9 = Volvo XC40, 10 = BMW iX3 ........... but still interesting?
@robertwalker1742
@robertwalker1742 Жыл бұрын
Waste of time
@adofoi30
@adofoi30 Жыл бұрын
Why use WLTP? Just look up the EPA figures … not perfect but much better
@izuaff04
@izuaff04 Жыл бұрын
Just buy Korean cars for EV cars...
@robinking3774
@robinking3774 Жыл бұрын
why?
@bobabout256
@bobabout256 Жыл бұрын
In order not to confirm the prejudiced misconceptions about EV technology don’t SHOUT THE WORD DIE in you title. To my knowledge this isn’t done for ICE vehicles how ever ridiculous they can be.
@joeynessily
@joeynessily Жыл бұрын
This isn't a little bit different... literally every car channel has done the 'drive EV till it's flat' test. It's not really very informative. Try and get somewhere BEYOND the suggest range of the car and charge it efficiently along the way... The poor state of the charging network and how a new owner should use the '80/20' rule is more important than the cars themselves.
@Ben.Royals
@Ben.Royals Жыл бұрын
I agree teaching new consumers who aren't from the early adoption phase (so interested in how it all works) is more key now. Telling them to use a charger for the range they need or to only, at busy chargers, charge to 80% so they dont block a charger for longer than needs be is important. People buying EVs now aren't necessarily going to learn the ins and outs before their car arrives. Some luckily join EV groups and get info there, people like my parents have me to inform them, but many wont have this benefit. So education on EV usage is key.
@markgwilt5180
@markgwilt5180 Жыл бұрын
Well luckily new battery tech is making that rule obsolete due to LFPs having no effect being charged to 100% due to the extended lifespan expected being over 10,000 cycles (2,000,000 miles in my model 3 LFP)
@amigatommy7
@amigatommy7 Жыл бұрын
The BMW is a real dog from the reviews I have seen.
@trevoryong
@trevoryong Жыл бұрын
Not sure what reviews you've seen!
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 Жыл бұрын
The M50 variant has had some negative reviews but not the i4 e drive 40
@trevoryong
@trevoryong Жыл бұрын
@@bshah4831 Negative…I’ve seen a few mention it isn’t that engaging a drive but I wouldn’t call them negative. Like the 320D, the 40 will be the one to own.
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
@@trevoryong just try driving yourself, it is amazing
@marxnex71
@marxnex71 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely don't know why these channels bother to do these kind of videos because regardless of the result the final verdict is just buy a tesla 🤷‍♂️
@AlanTov
@AlanTov Жыл бұрын
Who wants to buy a car from a far right lunatic? Not me.
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
Just get a screwdriver to finish the assembly plant work 😄
@marxnex71
@marxnex71 Жыл бұрын
@@KDR816 😂👏🏻👍🏻
@Quantum-Omega
@Quantum-Omega Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing, we don't want electric crap
@francoispetit3401
@francoispetit3401 Жыл бұрын
Absolutly stupid this video... How you can compare... The price of the car can guide you... Poor boy....
@KDR816
@KDR816 Жыл бұрын
For example i4 costs similar to M3/MY. And more a question of a taste (or lack of taste when you go for Tesla 😂 Elon is happy because covid made many people tasteless)
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