9 Horror Movie Victims Who Were Actually The Villain

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[@Rockstar_420]

Carrie wasn't really the villain in that situation. She relentlessly bullied at school and abused by her religious mother to a point where she snapped.

[@JustKelso1993]

I can see her being pushed into being a villain. She is a murderer for sure. Villains can be victims too. I see Carrie as a victim who was pushed far enough to become the villain in her own story. She didn't HAVE to kill those people, some 'deserved' it I guess but not all of them. That alone makes her a villain.

[@00Raven00]

She still killed innocent people 🤷‍♀️

[@Rockstar_420]

But it was no thanks to the people who bullied and abused her@@00Raven00 it doesn't justify what happened but if they hadn't treated her like that then she wouldn't have done it

[@Jhosk95]

so you're saying eric and dylan were justified for what they done. scuffed logic.

[@NeloBladeOfRanni]

@@Jhosk95 no it isnt what shes saying. Quite frankly carries "victims" got what they deserved

[@hitoshi_shinsolove_cats3828]

The blind soldier from Don't Breathe is also a good example of a victim who's actually the villain

[@nessyness5447]

I don't know, they trespassed his house, they started it.

[@hitoshi_shinsolove_cats3828]

@@nessyness5447 Exactly. The blindman was the victim at the beginning of the movie, but the characters soon found out he was a kidnapper/rapist. That's why we were rooting for him at first.

[@higaiwokeru]

I mean everyone in that movie fucking sucks The people trying to steal from a deaf war vet And the deaf war vet being a rapist

[@mastrxl]

Luckly they fucked that part up in that horrible horrible sequel

[@KadenGamesYTReal76]

@@higaiwokeru Who.Fucking.Asked

[@brycestrife5605]

I really appreciate the rate that this channel pushes out horror content. it's almost daily it seems like and I absolutely love it!

[@LokisDivinity]

I mean the key is in the name... "What culture Horror"

[@anthonyflowers3095]

Right? Every time I open KZbin they got sum new. Most channels I gotta check for 1 every week 😂

[@angeloguap6174]

All their content is done so good and quick i love all their spin off channels they are well edited with great humor and they all seem to be genuine friend I love the banter between them

[@jamesconnor601]

So refreshing knowing there are so many other avid horror fans

[@brycestrife5605]

@@jamesconnor601 I LOVE horror culture. I recently found this rock band called 'ice nine kills' and they make horror MUSIC. Dedications to the old school slashers. It's damn good.

[@chelseaudkler984]

So Norman was just 'pushed too far' but Carrie is the villain?

[@honestdave]

I'd say the original Carrie from the 70s was innocent but the Remake Carrie definitely seemed more like a villain

[@chelseaudkler984]

@@honestdave The one with Chloe Grace Moretz? I don’t really think they framed her as the villain. She was definitely less meek and she had a quicker visceral reaction to her abuse. But she was still definitely a victim.

[@honestdave]

@@chelseaudkler984 I think the only reason I feel that she's more of a villain than the original is because in the original carrying seems like the powers are controlling her but in the remake she's definitely the one controlling the powers. I still wouldn't say she's a villain outright but she's definitely not as innocent if you know what I mean.

[@chelseaudkler984]

@@honestdave very true. I do remember at the end of the remake she was intentionally doing some things almost like she had practiced her powers and she knew that she had them all along. But I also kind of chalk that up to their shoddy production of the film, itself. The remake did the original absolutely no favors. It was rushed and done more for shock value for the current audience with no actual substance. It’s been a while since I’ve watched it, but if I remember correctly, they really didn’t show all that much of the actual abuse she endured. It was like they just wanted to get to the big finale where she kills everyone. Definitely not my favorite remake out there.

[@chelseaudkler984]

@William Bower I don’t think you’re understanding my point. They both killed people. But Norman was framed as “being pushed to far.“ They were framed differently but still committed heinous crimes. Not talking about whether or not they were right or wrong in their killings. Just in how they were framed.

[@jenniferwells2291]

I've never seen Carrie as a villain, she was definitely a victim. Eventually she just snapped and realized that they were all just laughing at her and setting her up. I did feel bad for the teacher that was kind to her though.

[@mechengr1731]

While I dont think any of them deserved go die, the teacher did too little too late. This abuse had been going on for years (at home and in the school), and she waited until Carrie was in her senior year of hs to do anything. Punishing the girls and threatening to ban them from prom if they don't participate may look like 'helping' on the surface, but it really only served to escalate the situation. Sue and some of the girls may have learned the right lesson, but Chris and her friend def only learned to resent Carrie even more.

[@xyzharrishuang]

@@mechengr1731 Margaret White is the most guilty though she is technically a victim of rape It's another one of many Stephen King's tragic ending when the oppressed become oppressor

[@reine3253]

You're Next, Erin's boyfriend, his brother and brothers girlfriend should be on the list tho... It was quite obvious and damn good at the same time.

[@xraycombs]

You beat me to that, but you're right

[@kaelarenee4238]

Yesss..One of my faves out the the last couple years

[@niccolephipps8779]

Isn't Erin the heroine of the movie? She wasn't related to anyone there it was all her boyfriends family.

[@reine3253]

@@niccolephipps8779 thats true... sorry, ill make it right.

[@erika8214]

I love that movie!

[@dxgr81]

I Still Know What You Did Last Summer. The kid who was Jennifer Love Hewitt's date for the trip was shown to be a victim, but actually the son of the killer.

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

And watching again, his surname is actually a dead giveaway. "I'm Will Benson." ... SPOILERS ... "I'm Will... Ben's Son" (BEN SON)

[@dxgr81]

@@KittyKatt_Luna80s thanks I couldn't remember the name of the character.

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

@@dxgr81 You're welcome Bruce.

[@musicfan8048]

@@KittyKatt_Luna80s fake name was his real name Will Willis? lol

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

@@musicfan8048 Very funny. :-p

[@cyritag.5986]

Timmy from Identity. Granted it was revealed that the "people" at the motel were actually personalities of a serial killer, the killer personality turned out to be the little boy, Timmy.

[@wonderorsupergirl]

I was so sure he was going to be on the list.

[@ADDButterfly]

Yes!!!!!!

[@Wednesdaywoe1975]

God I'll never recover from that. "Whores don't get second chances"!

[@LadyBern]

By extension the Judge from "Then there were none" given it inspired Identity but then again depending on which movie you watched no one in that story were innocent victims.

[@alexmagney5326]

Am I the only one who found Identity horribly obvious? I mean we were told how many identites are there and there was literally counting happening with every murder AND they were supposed to take the kid and keep driving the car yet after the car explodes everyone just forgets about the kid? I mean there was not even a sentence like "oh my god Timmy died cause of Edward" or any indication that Timmy (who by being a kid was most important to keep safe until the car exploded) died in the explosion or exploded or burned or anything. The film just went on like instantly forgetting about the kid everyone seemed to care about and actually went back to the kill count yet no one could... I don't know count to ten? I mean where the fuck did they think the kid is or how did they get 10 without 1 ffs. I get that this happened in a brain of mentally unstable person (the misrepresentation of this illness aside) but for fuck sakes there was a room full of supposedly smart people - doctor(s? Idk), judge, lawyers, prosecutors or whatever it doesn't really matter but lol all supposedly smart people - and NO ONE could add or count to ten? The psychiatrist had a list of all the identities for fuck sakes and he crossed out the ones that died yet he also magically forgets? I mean not only was Timmy the only kid there (and there were TEN identities not a hundred ffs) but he was kinda the most important one - I mean psychologically speaking of course. He had a traumatic childhood in which he created other identities to deal with the trauma - that's how it happens in real life and the psychiatrist in the film even explained that to the others yet he still just magically forgets about the kid who is the core of Malcolm's identity and just... idk assumes Timmy died? Even though it doesn't add up? I mean there were other victims after Timmy and all of this would actually make sense if they changed one simple thing - the kill countdown. If the countdown accepted Timmy as a victim and moved forward accepting that Timmy was eliminated it would make sense. Hell, it would actually be fucking awesome cause it would bring Malcolm to his core, which was a traumatised child, and reveal an awesome psychological twist on so many levels. Yet the plot twist is supposed to be the moment when the film seems to be screaming at its viewers: "CAN YOU NOT FUCKING COUNT TO TEN" 😂😂😂 I really enjoyed the plot twist with Edward being Malcolm and I was sure I'd love that movie but then Timmy happened lol. I've been needing to vent about this film for like a year or two lmao so thanks for your not intended opportunity for me 😁

[@thamestreal1899]

The lady in The Lodge was 100% still the victim, those children were devil spawn

[@eileensnow6153]

I think they meant the kids were the surprise villain? That’s what I got at least

[@thamestreal1899]

@@eileensnow6153 this made me think, and i guess you could say that, but it wouldn't make much sense with the title of this vid cause they were portrayed as the villain in the movie. I would say they were villains that got victimized, but that doesnt make the girl the villain, they drove her insane.

[@samiam8472]

The kids did her wrong. She was finally away from the craziness, but she snapped after their cruel ness. Smh

[@starlynncline4331]

@@thamestreal1899 they did mean that the kids were the villains instead of the victims. They weren't talking about their fathers girlfriend at all as a villain. I'm guessing though that they didn't actually watch the movie and only watched the trailer because it was pretty obvious in the movie that it was the kids all along doing all this stuff. But based on the trailer you could think that the kids were the victims.

[@thamestreal1899]

@Gold Rose i mean, the video was explaining the plot twists of these movies... so ya should have expected it

[@dxgr81]

I disagree with Carrie being the villain. She was bullied the whole movie and lashed out because of her telekinetic ability.

[@chelseylin6724]

Agreed. I was gonna say the same thing.

[@bunnyboy4277]

When you think about it. She is technically a villain. Some villains were bullied victims and they sometimes end up killing their bullies. But that's just my opinion.

[@piercepatterson9274]

Same

[@marzialalfonzocanada888]

@@bunnyboy4277 I kinda wanna say most of the characters in the film were the actual villains....carrie was just a product of their actions

[@bunnyboy4277]

@@marzialalfonzocanada888 Yes. Usually villains are a product of the society they live in. I think the tables turned in this movie. Where at first the bullies were the villains and then Carrie became the villain after she is pushed to the limit.

[@narutoultimajm]

Calling Carrie a villain is a bit messed up. Would like to see anyone go through her story and come out not needing revenge. The real villain of that story are the highschoolers

[@soberbarbie02]

and her mother who also made her life hell

[@genesisfunes7551]

Switch carrie and a school shooter. She was an abuse victim yes, but also became the villain

[@narutoultimajm]

@@genesisfunes7551 well if the entire school is beating up on said school shooter and said persons parental figures are also locking them in a closet barely the size of a person, while abusing them, that town deserves what it gets. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@genesisfunes7551]

@@narutoultimajm well it's a fictional story with telekinetic powers, the entire town didnt do anything I doubt it was the entire school that bullied her since it was just a class of girls in the locker room that did the tampon stunt. In any case I'm not saying others aren't also to blame and her mother definitely is the full true villain in the story, however to say carrie isnt one or to say that viewing her as one is messed up even tho she literally killed an entire school, is also just not correct, objectively she is a villain and it's not messed up to say she is but the fact that what made her victim also made her into that villain should probably be brought up as well. If anything I dont see the message as "dont fuck with people or you'll get whats coming to you" as a threat, but instead "dont fuck with people, you dont know their story and what can make them snap", not just violently but mentally, which can apply to school shooters, adults who were abused who then abuse others, and suicide victims, without excusing the harm they do if they did any

[@narutoultimajm]

@@genesisfunes7551 oh “It’S a FiCtIoNaL sToRy”....I would of never guessed. Actually the whole school really did, did you even watch this? Or better yet read it? That school and it’s inhabitants literally tormented her. You just come across like a snob right now that clearly likes the look of their own words. She was a victim. And when someone loses their mind, especially due to continued torment, they don’t become the “villain” that’s not how that works. If somebody is tortured daily, to the point where the mind breaks. They are not a villain. Villains have motive, it’s not spontaneous. They plan their actions out.

[@ivandeklerk697]

The others is truely a classic. One of my all time favorite horror movies. Nicole Kidman was truely amazing in this movie. One of her best performances.

[@cjscott5915]

I wish you would’ve included Adelaide from “US” by Jordan Peele!! In a way she kinda was a villain.

[@scifiseductress]

Yesssss!!! That would’ve been a great one to add!

[@mistersmootharteest7045]

Agreed

[@mattallam4647]

Mmm not really

[@honestdave]

I don't know maybe it's just because I don't like Jordan peele's movies that much or maybe it's because I think this is one of his weaker films

[@earlleary]

Excellent movie, love it.

[@QuirkyShiny]

Not sure if Nicole Kidman's character in The Others had 'contempt' for her children, or if she was suffering a mental breakdown after the loss of her husband and other traumas/exhaustion

[@hornguy04]

It was being isolated in that house with only her kids and being surrounded by constant darkness since the curtains had to stay closed. Her character mentions how this is unbearable in the movie.

[@rantersparadise]

THIS

[@MrsKhylaBaby]

@@hornguy04 no the curtains being closed was never a necessity because the children were never truly sick, they were dead. The house being closed up was more a case of them being dead and no one living there, thus the house being closed up. Her brain just rationalised it as the reason because she was in denial about being dead

[@hornguy04]

@@MrsKhylaBaby that’s the first time I’ve heard that specific interpretation. I don’t agree with it since the movie basically tells you everything you need to know by the end, but it is interesting.

[@jimdoom2276]

They were dead - she couldn't have opened the curtains even if she'd wanted to. I'm positive that the above interpretation is correct. After all, Grace is thoroughly delusional/in denial of both her crime, and of being dead, and she applies this denial to any evidence which would lead inescapably to those conclusions - including an inability to open the curtains.

[@megantrombley4439]

Great list, hit all the popular ones for sure. But you could definitely make a part 2 as well: The Uninvited - Anna Secret Window - Mort You're Next - Felix, Zee, and Crispian Us - Adelaide (in my opinion) Stephanie - Stephanie Hide and Seek - David Triangle - Jess The Tortured - the Landry's Ruin Me - Nathan New Year, New You - Everyone Eli - Eli Session 9 - Gordon Dark Touch - Niamh Would love to see the reverse of this as well; villains who were actually the victim. Though that could be a very long list if you consider all the villains who were villains due to psychological trauma or circumstance.

[@derrickhaggard]

For the reverse aka villain who was in reality the victim, Unfriended would be perfect for that list as the murderous ghost Blaire was killing the bullies who cyber-bullied her to the point where she took her own life.

[@ChicoFinal]

Ready Or Not - Alex

[@cromulentjesse]

Mort from secret window would have been a GREAT addition!!

[@CrazeeAdam]

Mark hoffman as well, or the incredibly surprising Dr. Gordan in the Saw franchise as well were quite shocking

[@iamcalledanna3240]

The reveal of dr. Gordon being Jigsaw’s accomplice in Saw 3D blew my mind

[@kelsey2333]

@@iamcalledanna3240 yeah it's crazy because before we thought Amanda was the first and only apprentice of jigsaw. Turns out she was one of the last apprentices

[@reduXstereo]

A lot of theories about him before the film came out ruined the surprise for me.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

Carrie was the ode to anyone who as ever bullied as a kid in school. It was a warning to not screw with the wrong person, or bad shit will happen to you

[@anSealgair]

Well that's what they learned at Columbine

[@1337xnoob]

@@anSealgair Jesus my guy

[@hedgehog1965uk]

@@1337xnoob He's right though. I bet Carrie was the inspiration for many a school shooting. In America, if you don't have telekinetic powers you can easily just pick up an AR-15.

[@1337xnoob]

@@hedgehog1965uk I know it was just out of nowhere

[@hedgehog1965uk]

I'm actually amazed that bullying still exists in US high schools. If a couple of jocks pick on some fat kid enough times, the kid just snaps and the next day he comes in with an assault rifle. I guess the bullies just think it will never happen to them.

[@4fortune1984]

Want a list of horror movie victims who deserve to die... if it’s not already one or another part of there is a video already

[@aydenblanchard6377]

?

[@amarzya445]

Love that idea. Like the Nazi in Saw.

[@laprincessa3772]

Yes! This!☝

[@ichigoeater]

Given the horror movie penchant for giving their victim characters terrible personalities to justify their fate, that may be a long list. I'd watch it, though.

[@CeeworldMedia]

I could literally give you a list of people in every single movie LOL! Most of them literally deserve to die lol

[@MazogaTheDork]

The film Pet had a twist about halfway through, where it turned out the kidnapped female lead was actually a sadistic serial killer.

[@Uajd-hb1qs]

I’ve seen that film. I absolutely loved the ending. It was so well hidden and such a great turn around when the guy is now the one kept as the pet.

[@ImJustShayeB]

Loved it!

[@TheTeethgrinder]

Pet was awesome 👍

[@phoenixonfire2998]

Olivia Hussey is an incredible actress. Her roles vary from playing Juliet (Romero and Juliet 1968) the Virgin Mary (Jesus of Nazareth 1977) to Norma Bates. Bravo Ms. Hussey!

[@davidreed7496]

Also, Black Christmas.

[@crimsonclover9871]

I've *never* considered Carrie a villan. She's an innocent victim who finally snapped after being pushed to breaking point. Even in the book when she razed her hometown to the ground I felt sorry for her. The years of built up rage, hurt, humiliation and anger came pouring out. Once the flood gates in her were opened that was that...she couldn't stop what was happening. Just my two cents...😘

[@IGot7RevtinyArmyStayOnceBlink]

This is 2 flawed cents though. She killed everyone in the town [in the book], and a lot of innocent teens died in the movie. At the end we do see what she sees which is everyone laughing at her when we know only those assholes who got what was coming to them where laughing which was like 4 people out of everyone. She then proceeded to murder everyone because of bullying when people were trying to help her. That’s like saying a school shooter was the victim because he or she was bullied... this logic doesn’t work at all. Not trying to come for you, just saying.

[@DuskSunDawn]

In real life most people don't exonerate criminals (killers, rapists, batterers, etc) based on their traumatic experiences. I don't care what someone chooses, as long as there is coherence in the argument.

[@ollieno971]

@@IGot7RevtinyArmyStayOnceBlink school shootings are premeditated. She did not mean to or plan on killing anyone

[@ollieno971]

@@IGot7RevtinyArmyStayOnceBlink and she didn’t know people were trying to help her she had a mental breakdown and thought they were all laughing at her. She couldn’t control her powers they were tied to her emotions. She just snapped

[@IGot7RevtinyArmyStayOnceBlink]

@@ollieno971 I agree with you in the sense that she just snapped. But most people who have experienced bullying and decided to do something have snapped. We don’t give them the benefit of the doubt though in real life. I get it, and I did feel for her but it’s really hard for me to see her as some type of “hero”/ victim after killing almost everyone. If she would’ve got those horrible bullies i wouldn’t be so torn. But the way she went about it especially in the book is were the issue lies. I get what you mean though they def drove her to the Edge and pushed her off.

[@mathewm6294]

This is why i am a huge horror fan: it is the one genre where you kinda don't know what you are gonna get, for better or worse.

[@stephenwhitakerii3206]

How could anyone think Carrie was a villain?!?! If i had powers like that i would’ve done the exact same things. All but three of them being the teacher, the girl thrown out, and her date were the only ones that shouldn’t have been punished.

[@CheekyTubemouse]

This is at least the third What Culture Horror video I've watched that warns about spoilers with a note to "see the description for more info" and then DOESN'T put ANY spoiler info in the description. :(

[@jeraldmacklinii6440]

Rose from Get Out should be on this list.

[@ltglands]

I agree

[@djmaus7909]

People don’t realize she was a victim because that was only explained in a deleted scene

[@HaruHikaHaruHika]

@@djmaus7909 What scene was that?

[@dariuschisholm7317]

Why is that

[@dariuschisholm7317]

What deleted scenes

[@xraycombs]

I remember in the movie "You're next," a few of the family members turned out to be working with the killers, namely the husband, and the cousin and his wife

[@alioh7615]

It was her bf, and her bf's brother and girlfriend

[@rsw0103]

Carrie was definitely not the villain!

[@kendrichbadando7950]

Girlie knew what she was doing, I'd say she was both a victim and a Villain.

[@Shadowcat753]

I'd say if Carrie is on this list - that Jason should also be on this list for similar reasons. Jason was bullied and almost drowned at the summer camp his mom worked at. He even gets to see his own mother die at the hands of a survivor that literally only killed her to defend herself after all her friends had been brutally murdered. It seems somewhat reasonable that Jason should take on his mom's role at Camp Crystal Lake after that point considering all that alone.

[@merchantfan]

Yeah, he was even younger than Carrie when he died- at least she was old enough for a learner's permit. Heck, even Michael Myers if you consider the 6th film canon was cursed as a child to kill his family so he wasn't actively making a choice to kill those people either.

[@brittalynn8349]

But Jason isn’t killing his bullies he’s killing innocent people. It’s not really the same. Carrie only killed the people who hurt her besides the boy who took her to prom. Jason killed multiple innocent people who did nothing to him

[@merchantfan]

@@brittalynn8349 Didn't Carrie also kill a lot of teachers including the gym teacher who tried to help her?

[@brittalynn8349]

@@merchantfan I guess I don’t remember the original Carrie I haven’t seen it in a while but the gym teacher survives the remake. And almost all of the teachers besides that gym teacher treated her just as badly and watched people treat her horrible and did nothing

[@merchantfan]

@@brittalynn8349 In the book she destroys the entire town. She's pretty much indiscriminate once she starts killing

[@Tacktickle]

I am not a Nicole Kidman fan at all but The Others is one of my all time favorite movies

[@awesomesauce2000]

Honestly the Scream 4 plot twist was the one that shook me the most.

[@englishatheart]

It wasn't a shock though. Just like one of the reasons Kuprick's "The Shitting" sucks so much is because it was obvious from the beginning that "Jack" was a psycho. It was no surprise when he started trying to kill everyone.

[@JIF882]

@@englishatheart What are you talking about? So, you knew who the killers in Scream 4 were from the beginning?

[@deadalive3288]

Could you do the opposite list 9 villains who were the victims

[@Maya_Pinion]

Excellent 💡 idea

[@kazz6884]

yeah Carrie better be on that list

[@Midsomnyx]

"This shocking twist ensured High Tension is always remembered" Yes, especially when you keep putting it on your lists.

[@henrytruong2596]

Carrie was a perfect example of pushing someone to their limits. As I would always say, "don't start nothing won't be nothing"!

[@xored8813]

It’s even worse in the book. It was very heartbreaking.

[@lindseymcdougall3603]

I really wouldnt call carrie a villain. A victim pushed passed her sanity

[@lk6687]

I mean she killed innocent people...that alone makes her a villain

[@theangelproductions]

@@lk6687 She wasn't in her right state of mind. She can't be held responsible.

[@lk6687]

@@theangelproductions if I shoot someone random in the head because I am "not in the right state of mind", am I guilty or not? I would consider this hella guilty

[@theangelproductions]

@@lk6687 There is a difference between purchasing a gun, bringing it out in public, then shooting someone, and having an uncontrollable telekinetic power that you never asked for.

[@lk6687]

@@theangelproductions the end result is the same

[@yaboyriz78]

I’m so glad High Tension made this list. I thoroughly enjoyed that movie when it came out. Lived up to its name with that crazy score

[@reelred13]

Scream 4 rules. It is so underrated. The opening is brilliant and Jill is great!

[@scottylewis8124]

It was trash

[@reelred13]

@@scottylewis8124 nooooo. Say it ain’t so Scotty.

[@dragvibeplus]

@@reelred13 I agree. Emma Roberts is such an amazing actress. She fits so well in the slasher type genres. I hope to see her take the lead with Syndey in the reboot (Scream 5 coming soon) however she just had a child so we won't see her for awhile. Emma is mostly known from American Horror Story

[@scottylewis8124]

@@reelred13 it is so I'm afraid. It was so dated and stupid that it basically became it's own self parody.

[@scottylewis8124]

@@dragvibeplus 4 was terrible. The characters suck. And everyone was so annoying they deserved to die. I didn't find anyone likable in this movie. Campbell and Cox were phoning in their performances. And Roberts felt miscast. Coming off as a whiny 5 year old.

[@lindseymcdougall3603]

If anyone wants an interesting read, look into Ed Gein who Psycho was based on, but more specifically his mother augusta. When you know about her, it starts to make sense how Ed ended up how he did.

[@ashh4929]

Absolutely. The 70's movie Deranged did a pretty good job of emphasizing that.

[@lindseymcdougall3603]

@@ashh4929 havent seen it. Will give it a look. Thanks

[@ashh4929]

No problem! Its one of those awesome old school 70's B-horror movies like Motel Hell, I hope you like it. 😁

[@stevepwood]

I believe Ed Gein also inspired Leatherface (Texas Chainsaw Massacre) and Buffalo Bill (Silence of the Lambs)...

[@djmaus7909]

WhatCulture has many times pointed out that the twist in High Tension was lacking and didn’t even make sense, so it shouldn’t be top of the list. #1 should be The Others.

[@paulzuniga4256]

Glad I’m not the only one who watched a lot of WhatCulture videos and noticed this

[@danafisher8613]

Carrie was NEVER the Villain she was bullied to no end to extreme degrees, not to mention how her mother emotionally abused her... How is she a villain for finally just being pushed over the edge after having Pig’s blood dumped on her at the highest point in her life.....

[@korinogaro]

Well she killed everything close to her not discriminating soo... you can't call it a just revenge even though there clearly was an element of it.

[@bullypopful]

When I was bullied, I didn't take it out on an entire gymnasium of my peers indiscriminately. We don't call school shooters heroes, do we?

[@danafisher8613]

@@korinogaro and it still doesn’t make her a villain either

[@danafisher8613]

@@bullypopful school shooters nor you are telepathic and coming into those powers that she barely could control nor understand. Still doesn’t make her a villain, and School shooters plot and plan to do harm. The only ones plotting and planning was the usual group that harassed her to no end, and all those who did nothing to stop it, stand up for her, or protect her. It was a response to the on going and the final straw of taking the one night she actually felt happy, and accepted, and they dumped pigs blood all of her with out a care in the world. So please do not compare her to a school shooter, and not once did I say she was a hero. Simply she was not the villain.

[@korinogaro]

@@danafisher8613 you claim that killing random people that had nothing to do with you doesn't make her a villain? Well. I don't agree with you.

[@iamcalledanna3240]

I think Saw 3 portrayed Amanda as a villain even more than Saw 2

[@Midsomnyx]

But she wasn't a victim in 3

[@Deathcore_Cvlt]

Wow! You're absolutely fucking gorgeous 😍😍😜 hmu on google hangouts [e-mail]

[@iamcalledanna3240]

@@Midsomnyx True but in the flashbacks we see her struggling with her drug addiction and also she’s cutting herself so you’d probably sympathize and feel kinda bad for her

[@dxgr81]

@@iamcalledanna3240 by the end of the movie series it was revealed that Detective Hoffman used Amanda's relationship to the man that accidentally killed John Kramer's child as a crutch to get her to turn on Kramer.

[@iamcalledanna3240]

@@dxgr81 I knew Amanda had something to do with Jill’s miscarriage but I never realized that Hoffman had anything to do with it, that’s news to me

[@TheTaintedWisdom]

(Sees that Jess from Triangle (2009) isn't on the list) Me: "I'm not angry I'm just... disappointed..."

[@sheetmetalguy9861]

yes i saw high tension in theaters, i loved it couldn’t understand why nobody else liked it

[@ashh4929]

I liked it and I've said it before it's the kind of movie you have to take at face value and not go digging too hard into plot holes. The lack of continuity does bug me a bit but it's a fun watch if you don't try to over think it and just enjoy it for what it is. It has a great cast with awesome gore effects, so I still endulge when I want a good gore flick.

[@Redundant_underscore]

I personally like it, but the absurd and nonsensical twist is enough for plenty of folks to hate it. And it's also mostly a ripoff of Intensity.

[@alioh7615]

I absolutely love it

[@a.c.slater7989]

It makes no sense if you think about it hard enough.

[@englishatheart]

Because it makes no effing sense. I was getting into it at first, wishing I had a friend that would do that for me (can't stand it when women look like 9 year old boys though), but the ending was just ridiculous.

[@TheLooterArmy]

Carrie was absolutely NOT the villain.

[@Peachy_19945]

Would the horror movie "Us" be good for this list? Because that ending was something serious🥴💀

[@genjishimada2396]

Dude Red/Adelaide would've been the perfect addition to this list.

[@zombiewafle]

No cause it sucked

[@anthonypatterson8796]

So reacting to continually being bullied makes you a “villain”? Explains a lot currently about the culture of this country.

[@jasonmillsom2981]

What is this comment😂😂😂 if you've seen movies or TV shows, there's plenty of characters who become villains, one such method is having that character being bullied

[@doctorwhofangirl22]

It does when you murder everyone. People say this about school shooters all the time "oh ..he was bullied". Doesn't justify murder.

[@alexiswagner5388]

@A Non the difference is the school shooters normally plan out what their going to do Carrie had no control over her powers at that point everything was new to her still and she had a mental break after years of abuse and torture and having no one to go to she reacted like anyone would after having literal blood poured on her during the 1 moment she could feel normal the only difference is she had telepathic powers that exploded when she finally broke

[@jasonmillsom2981]

@@alexiswagner5388 she seemed pretty much in control during that whole scene

[@Tommy15670]

@@doctorwhofangirl22 im from south america and we dont have this problem, but we have the biggest rate of suicidal-depressed teens of the continent (this adresses the cultural difference, on the USA you get guns you shoot people, on Chile you dont get guns, you jump on the subway). Saying that school shooters are just villains is just so wrong, because they are a consecuence, not a problem. It is easy to say get some help, but with useless teachers and authorities, horrendous mental health care and nowhere to get real help, add this to a tormented unstable mind, what you get? A maniac suicidal or a maniac shooter. Bullies should face the same charges as school shooters

[@Serioussmile51]

Carrie was never the villain, the villains were every one who pushed/abused her to react that intensely. Can't blame her...

[@woodcock696969]

One of the best lists in ages as there wasn’t too many expected movies to go from

[@wednesday8397]

High Tension blew my mind! At first it played out similar to the Dean Koontz novel, "Intensity" but turned into one of the best twists to date ever in a movie imo

[@XxRadioactiveGirlxX]

Carrie isn't supposed to be considered the Villain. In a similar vein, Grace Stewart wasn't supposed to be a Villain either? Yes she did some bad/could be considered antagonistic things, but not in the same sense at all to a "villain". It feels like you completely misunderstood the movie.

[@bertfechner417]

The Hole with Thora Birch I think? !!Spoilers!! She gets invited to party with her schoolmates in an underground shelter and after awhile they all think that they're trapped down there but she had the key the whole time.

[@guymarsault7264]

Thank you! Finally someone mentioning the best choice for this theme, by far.

[@Daintymoo]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@musicfan8048]

Another 9 are Creepshow 3 - call girl (Rachel), Candyman - (Daniel Robitaille), Deadly Friend - (Samantha Pringle), Valentine - (Jeremy Melton), Jennifer - (Jennifer Baylor), Massacre at Central High - (David), Demented-(Linda Rodgers), Slaughter High - (Marty Rantzen), Cube - (Quentin McNeil)

[@Alex-py7pn]

High Tension was one of the best thriller/horror movies I have seen, and I've seen a lot of movies in this genre! Great story, well acted, lots of suspenseful scenes, and not very expensive as a production, but still awesome, which says a lot!

[@joselarios2129]

Watching the Others as a young child, prepared me for most of these so called "twist" in movies. Haha

[@willhuey4891]

the old dead all along twist you mean.

[@hornguy04]

​@@willhuey4891 to be fair, The Others is underappreciated for this twist because "The Sixth Sense" came along first, though I felt like The Others did it the best.

[@kelst75]

In the The Lodge, the stepmother wasn't really a villian. The kids were the villains but ended up as victims. And in Carrie wasn't a really a villain in the classic sense. She was an abused person who snapped.

[@chrismaguire9032]

Just found out what culture has a horror channel super excited for that back catalogue and what’s to come, thanks for the content !!

[@cannypal]

Really appreciate the new suggestions, felt like the same 30 odd movies were on rotation on these lists.

[@mustlovebooknerd]

I knew Alex in High Tension looked familiar (hadn’t heard of it until this video). It’s the same woman who played Diva Plavalaguna in The Fifth Element and who was married to the director until he left her for Mila Jovavich.

[@JoelKellenProductions]

You forgot Amber Heard in All The Boys Love Mandy Lane. Also, I don't consider Grace Stewart from The Others as the villain. Antagonistic, sure, especially when its revealed she murdered her kids, but not a straight up villain. Hell, I don't see The Others as having a concrete villain at all.

[@nessyness5447]

Or you know, just amber heard in real life XD

[@jamesoakes4842]

This list puts me in mind of the main character from Memento. Probably one of my favorite presentations and twists ever, though more of a suspense/thriller than proper horror.

[@stevepwood]

High Tension was one of the most shocking movies I had ever seen! I never saw the brutal ending coming. Great movie!

[@stormryder4fr3]

How movies where the villain becomes the victim. (You're next)

[@annabanana7659]

Carrie and Grace were not really the villains of their movies. Carrie was an outcast who had a *very* religious mother, no friends and labeled as the weird girl who happens to have psychic powers. She was already walking in the emotional tight rope with the bullying peers and the humiliation at the dance had broke the straw on the camel's back. The real villain was the blonde chick and her boyfriend. In The Others, Grace had been suffering migraines and taking care of two children who suffered from photosensitivity had stressed her mentally and psychologically. Despite being strict and overprotective, she does love her children. She mentioned that all she remembered was that she had a huge migraine and the kids were agitating it. In a sudden bout of psychosis, she smothered the kids before she realized what she had done then killed herself out of despair and guilt. There were no villains in the movie, the only ones suitable to be labeled as antagonists were the 'trespassers' aka Victor and his parents whom Grace had thought of as ghosts.

[@JeffreyLeeBlake]

Yeah, lots of people are pushed to extreme circumstances and don’t end up killing a bunch of people.

[@andyl8055]

The Others is easily my favourite movie from this list, and one of Kidman’s finest performances that can’t get the recognition it deserves because the movie is horror/thriller.

[@adqua]

i have been terrorized by the ending of high tension where marie puts her arms out to reach for her friend/victim. Her face is horrifying in that moment, but i still wanted to rewatch it but couldn't remember the name. Thank you for the trauma, I'll be watching that as soon as I can sleep peacefully again.

[@kaptainkoala8476]

I know it’s not really traditional horror but I was surprised not to see Topher graces’s character from predators.

[@eurobeatking]

Totally agree! The part when he stole the picture of the killed Spetnaz's kids and tried to plead that they were his own was pretty chilling. When watching the film you wonder why the Predators captured him among all the other military-trained killers, but then his reveal was he was a psychopath.

[@curtismwilliams]

I’m so tired of seeing “High Tension” on a list. I’ve seen it. It’s good. But the reveal that Marie is the killer flies into the face of a lot of the movie. Some of the killings from her vantage point were her observing. Like the woman that’s killed while she was in the closet. It makes no sense.

[@amjsolstice]

If you watch closely though, none of the murders that Marie 'watched' were ever observed by anyone but Marie. It's the 'unreliable narrator' trope put into film... it's her own delusion of being the victim making her believe that she was watching the murders, not committing them.

[@le2800]

@@amjsolstice Exactly! That movie was so disturbing. To think this girl invites a friend home with her and she is a crazed maniac. I was rooting for Marie at first. Wow! I was in for a surprise at the end.

[@lesandersonjr6893]

It was only done to throw off the audience. She wasn't really in the closet or hiding. It was what she wanted to make you believe.

[@englishatheart]

@@lesandersonjr6893 She was nuts. There was no "her wanting us to believe" shit.

[@vanessagomez2982]

Carrie was 100% victim her mom was a villain just straight up crazy.

[@jacklow9611]

Actually, she wasn't the only villain in the story. While Carrie's mother was a villain, the girls that teased Carrie so relentlessly were villains, too, almost as bad as Carrie's mother. They were the ones who should have been cited as the victims who were the villains.

[@obama-chan2127]

@loveutill theendoftimes it's kinda a grey area for Carrie, but she's definitely more so a victim than the villain like a 40% villain to 60% victim ratio. It wouldn't have happened if those girls or her mom wasn't such assholes or the whole school in that matter. Carrie was driven to insanity and the bullies just bullied out of boredom. They're victims to being murdered but caused it themselves by being such jackasses. They're more so the villain, Carrie just went crazy cause of them, therefore, is the victim.

[@dragon_toad]

@loveutill theendoftimes school shootings are controlled, premeditated acts. Carrie had a psychological break down whilst possessing MENTAL powers that she had little control over and didn't even discover existed until recently. She mentally snapped, and she felt rage. Her powers responded.

[@LittleMissGrosser]

I will never see Carrie as a villain. It's the bullies' fault the prom massacre occurs as they pushed her to snap and unleash her powers. That's my view, anyway.

[@Daniel-nn8mr]

Carrie isn't actually a villain she just doesn't want to be bullied. I was bullied and I would've done what she did.

[@pixymae]

Warning! This video contains spoilers! Here is an alarm and a graphic telling you to check the description so that you do not get spoiled! *The Description:* Follow us on tweeters :-)

[@CeeworldMedia]

I mean the title alone is literally telling you that there are spoilers lol

[@TheArtObsessed]

@@CeeworldMedia Yeah but it would be nice if they included a list of what films they would be mentioning in the description. It's not that hard. Then we can decide if we would like to watch it or not.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

@@CeeworldMedia But it doesn't say which movies are getting spoiled. It sucks that you basically can't ever watch any video ever because people are too fucking lazy to put the names of movies in the description.

[@SnarkierThan-U-R]

Yesssss High Tension finally gets the acknowledgment it deserves!

[@dubulvr]

So glad I found this channel lol I love the horror genre and the fact that y’all constantly push out good content about it 😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

SPOILER Monica in The Bird With The Crystal Plummage. The whole movie you think she was attacked by the killer that's murdering women, but nope! She IS that killer, and what you saw was her husband actually trying to save himself from her madness.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

That’s a pretty big spoiler. You might consider hitting the (enter) button a few times (after the movie title) just for those who might not have seen the movie yet.

[@rach78901]

Is Carrie rlly the villain tho?🤔

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

The Others was indeed a criminally underrated horror masterpiece. Absolutely loved that movie and its sad it never found the audience and appreciation it deserved.

[@ranaevalentine9876]

Did anyone else hear Eric Matthews during the part about the Saw films and just go, "Plays With Squirrels"?!? I feel like the BMW/GMW Eric would survive via pure dumb luck, bumbling around and just absentmindedly stumbling through traps and barely missing them. 😂

[@heatherturner2366]

Well he did play Ron (not dumb luck, dumb skill) Stoppable

[@davidvaldes5054]

Another can be blaire lily (unfriended 2014).

[@NickFieldMedia]

I thought of this one too.

[@derrickhaggard]

Yeah honestly I was to an extent actually rooting for her ghost the entire film due to what happened to her.

[@wljj56]

World to me Carrie wasn't really a villain she was just sick and tired of being bullied

[@unDeadUPROAR]

still a villain, you can't kill people and say "well they bullied me badly so i decided to kill them"

[@theangelproductions]

@@unDeadUPROAR She didn't "decide" anything. She snapped and lost control of her telekinesis, which is literally triggered by extreme emotions

[@unDeadUPROAR]

@@theangelproductions so if someone was at a gun range and lost control of their emotions and shot someone... it wouldn't be their fault?

[@theangelproductions]

@@unDeadUPROAR They would have chosen to handle a gun. Carrie didn't choose to have telekinesis.

[@garysloan9793]

The missing film crew in Cannibal Holocaust certainly turn out to be the villains after so many people were worried about them

[@ichigoeater]

Eh? No Puppetmaster? I know it was a B Horror film, but you gotta admit, the innocent damsel in distress being the true master of puppets in the end was a proper surprising twist.

[@bananajoe5511]

I really don’t think Carrie’s actions make her a villain. She’s simply giving back what was given to her, and never hurt anyone unless provoked or threatened

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

I saw a piece that identified her as an anti-heroine, with Sue Snell as her foil and heroine.

[@CandleJack1988]

The son from the austrian movie 'Goodnight mommy'

[@mandaluenise7191]

Not a horror movie but The Perfect Getaway was a great example of the protagonists being the antagonists.

[@bananatiergod]

The kids from The Lodge were 100% the villains and the fact people defend what they do baffles me. Tiny little sociopaths.

[@beeclan50]

Carrie IS NOT THE VILLAN!

[@ringozeitgeist]

I don't think so, either.

[@jakealter5504]

Honestly.. Carrie shouldn’t be on the list since she was more victim than villain, she only became a villain after a lifetime of abuse. By your logic, Norman Bates should’ve made the list for the same reason

[@donwhiteley3293]

Is there really anyone who says Norman Bates isn't a villain? He didn't make the list because everyone already knows he's the villain.

[@jakealter5504]

@@donwhiteley3293 he is but his backstory is very similar to Carrie’s. I was saying that if Carrie is on this list due to snapping after years of abuse then Norman should’ve been included as well. I honestly would’ve put Norman on the list instead of his mother since she was the villain BEFORE becoming his victim while Norman, much like Carrie, was a victim before being a villain

[@chelseagirl65]

Nice to see High Tension as No.1... such a fantastic movie.... and usually I can guess the ending on films... but this one one shook me.. pure brilliance!

[@TheRealNickBoone]

Great video !! Great choices !! I Am happy u included '' Marie '' of '' High Tension '' !! I 've always thought that '' High Tension '' is a movie that never got the praise and recognition it deserves !!

[@maclemaster5966]

High tension was a badass movie all the way through

[@StarvingSound]

Carrie wasn't the villain. She just got tired of taking the villains' shit and took the power back.

[@ardoniswilliams7241]

True ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun

[@mandyv.292]

The others was the best film, it was so chilling and such a big twist that I never thought of. It’s such a good film I think everyone should watch

[@kirstencosta8010]

You forgot Urban Legend! That movie was a phenomenal horror movie with the girl from the noxema commercial (Malin Ackerman) dominating the bad guy or killer role!

[@hollowdan9149]

In my opinion All The Boys Love Mandy Lane would have made more sense than Carrie. I get that Carrie becomes villainous at the end but the title of the video is 'Victims That Are Actually The Villains' , which I implies Carrie was the villain all along?

[@karenstewie9084]

I agree

[@abigail-mh2no]

everyone talking about Carrie me: where’s ash???

[@LC05]

Ash left this channel ages ago

[@abigail-mh2no]

@@LC05 srsly????

[@hashtrozombie]

@@abigail-mh2no oh yeah quite some time ago

[@lawrencetalbot8346]

Good list. Y’all’s videos have been getting a lot better lately 👍🏻

[@Randomperson-zt3il]

When u showed the SAW II clip in the beginning, I just thought man that twist was incredible

[@gordondevlin977]

Your next should been on the list

[@Yomommaru]

Carrie's actions were 100% completely justified. Not really a villain it seems.

[@jacqui1811]

The Blind Guy from Don't Breathe (2016). I was really sad for him until the twist at the end. (not spoiling).

[@ericoffill3697]

I'd also add Gordo from The Gift, The Family from It Comes At Night, The Blind Man from Don't Breathe and George and Gloria from Villains. And just to rile up the fans, the kid in Identity.

[@amierulbaharin765]

I don't think I will identify the family from It Comes At Night as a villain. I don't even think there's a villain in this story. The family only want to protect themselves in a post-apocalyptic world and thus feel suspicious and unsafe when a new family come. They try their best to help the other family and at the same time, protecting themselves. They kill the other family because they think the son is infected, while in fact it's actually their own son. I don't know how to classify them but they're certainly not villains.