Lab Meat. The $1 Trillion Ugly Truth

[@WhatIveLearned]

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[@Limbergem]

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[@martiddy]

I feel like this video omitted a lot of points about this industry. Is true that lab grown meat is way more expensive than animal meat, but you're assuming that investing on research in a waste of money because it hasn't make any profit yet. Research in technology and science does not always have to make profit, if that was the case, then organizations like NASA and CERN would be a total failure according to you. Obviously, the investors does not expect to have a large profit in less than a year. This is to make those necessary technological breakthroughs possible in the upcoming years. With these breakthroughs, the resources are going to be reduced and by consequence the prices as well. Even, if the price will never reach the same price as normal meat, a lot of people will be more than willing to pay way more money if that means that no animal is harmed in the process. Also, there new methods being researched than can replicate the immune system from animals in lab grown meat.

[@Limbergem]

@@martiddy I think my issue is that lab grown and other fake meats are already being sold as a success while the meat industry is being slandered with inaccurate numbers regarding it's environmental impact verses the environmental impact of lab grown meat. Like great, research the cure for cancer, it's a worthy pursuit but don't lie by saying you've already cured cancer and don't slander the current treatment options just to make your inferior solution look better. That's what I got from the video, it's not slamming research, it's slamming the pretense about the current results of that research. The "fake it til you make it" strategy.

[@jekenify]

can you make a video or series of videos about hemp?

[@Commentarian1]

We😅😢@@martiddy 0:35

[@sounghungi]

I think I just gained more appreciation for how complex but smoothly we are able to move 10 billion pounds of meat in America.

[@mohamadrayan]

For me it is appreciation for our bodies and how they wotk

[@maximrueegger]

smoothly? please get yourself informed on the meat industry, before making such statements.

[@ryanb6614]

Just buy bulk from a local farmer, easier, healthier & grass fed. I’d never go back to supermarket meat

[@MrGlitch_YT]

Homies really tried replicating gods design

[@breakthecycle5238]

Refrigerated truck driver here it is a massive amount of logistics

[@beanmeupscotty]

As a microbiologist, I cannot begin to express how much I appreciate the extent of how you stressed what an obstacle it would be to keep such a large environment sterile 24/7. Cell-based meat will never, ever be the same kind of thing as some guy taking up a side-hobby of brewing up Schrader Brau in his garage. Brewing not only allows for the growth of microbial life, but its success is based upon creating an evironment for their specific strains of fermentative yeast to thrive. Meanwhile the environment for cell-based meat is just a million-dollar bacterial culture waiting to happen. Mass media only seems to remember the existence of microbial life when the 1%ers decide it's time to crush what remains of that pesky middle class, I guess.

[@JukaDominator]

I would not say never, but it's clearly a long ways off, if it ever happens. It doesn't seem like the average person likes this sort of thing enough for it to be.

[@pppjunk]

Yes. Lab cheese would probably be a lot easier...

[@hulahula6182]

WEF wants everyone to eat bugs, pay rent, own nothing. They don't care about science

[@bobow4075]

@@JukaDominator true, people who are calling this a scam have no clue what they are taking about. We make vehicles powered by explosions, tell that to someone 200 years ago and they also will say it sounds like a scam. We need to put money into the industry inorder for it to come to fruition

[@wideawake3080]

I mean, large scale mammalian cell culture *is* a thing in the pharmaceutical industry, and it avoids contamination the same way the cultivated meat industry does - doing sterilising filtration on media components and sterilising all equipment before use.

[@EnKayAre]

Salmon roe in orange juice is probably the grossest illustration for cells sitting in urine. Nice work

[@EqualityEarth]

I thought it was bursting boba 😳

[@deadboltzz5199]

Orange chicken lol

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

Is that really salmon roe? I was guessing it was just some gelatin-type stuff, like they used in Orbitz soft drink many years ago, or tapioca.

[@mill2712]

Without using actual cells and urine that is.

[@CAM-fq8lv]

Total gross out!

[@W333L]

I work in pharma and I specialize in microbiological control. They neglect to mention that these bioreactors aren’t the real cost here. Cells need to be grown in highly controlled environments. These facilities will need expensive hvac and air filtration setups, disposable protective gowning for each employee, and rigorous quality control testing. These are all recurring costs that would balloon the final product cost. Of course the standard for food aren’t as high as for drugs, but when working with unproctected cells, it only takes one microbe to spoil tens of thousands of dollars of product

[@DirtyLifeLove]

Why can’t A super computer design a pseudo immune system for the growing meat?

[@W333L]

@@DirtyLifeLove we are about as close to printing a functional immune system as we are to printing a brain

[@massi9039]

These facilities would probably be similar to the ones you use, how much can it cost to make "1 Kilo" of Aspirine? Excluding brevet costs, just the material manufacturing cost.

[@W333L]

@@massi9039 as far as I’m aware, aspirin can be chemically synthesized under minimal contamination control. Harvesting biomolecules from bioreactors (essentially milking GMO bacteria for your compound) is much more difficult due to the need to re-seed organisms, exchange media, prevent cross-contamination, etc. My product is very intricate and expensive. A more apt analogy would be bioreactor insulin, since it’s had many decades of RND, and is in high enough demand to be massively scaled. Based on some googling and a bit of math, insulin would be between 300-400$ per L at cost, which would be about the same amount per kilo. Applying that to meat, your 12 oz steak would be 100-130$ at cost if it were perfectly scaled to market. This also neglects the inherent differences in manufacturing a solid cell product on a scaffold which would be significantly more expensive, even after rnd.

[@AndreAngelantoni]

These problems sunk fuel from algae.

[@bASICMiner]

...lets just call it what it is... a scam.

[@mesmerized3391]

You mean „investment Opportunity“ xD

[@fbiagentmiyakohoshino8223]

true

[@RubberChickenMan007]

Like global warming

[@cringyboring]

​@@RubberChickenMan007 lol

[@zeevr.4752]

I wouldn’t call it a scam but I thinks it’s a “impossible project” cause it’s way to much to do make it for real

[@SunShine-xc6dh]

It's almost like life has spent billions of years optimizing the most efficient method to continue itself.

[@JoViljarHaugstulen]

To a degree yes but life/evolution basically only measures reproduction which leads to things which are detrimental to the individual (Like male peacocks dragging around dead weight which might get them killed and they also use resources on growing it) but because it increases their chance at reproducing it is optimal from an evolutionary point of view. I am not sure I would view it as optimal in general but that's just my opinion.

[@SunShine-xc6dh]

@@JoViljarHaugstulen million of cells die in your body everyday. Your only still here because reproduction is life. Does it matter to peacocks as a whole if an individual dies after being more successful at reproduction that other individuals that may live longer.

[@SunShine-xc6dh]

@@JoViljarHaugstulen like it or not, the only purpose of a Cow is to make more cows that make more cows, a chicken to make more chickens that make more chickens, a human yo make more humans that make more humans. That is how and why those physical being exist. You can argue the meaning of life beyond that, but without it there is no life to have any other meaning

[@pavelbreza9190]

@@SunShine-xc6dh fr bro

[@Mr-hq6ox]

@@SunShine-xc6dh So human holocaust camps are fine? That’s the goal of any animal, lol.

[@watsonwrote]

This makes me appreciate how much animal bodies work to keep bacteria from interrupting cell grow and function. It's easy to take for granted but as soon as those cells are separated from the many, many layers of immune system, it's very clear how much we rely on it

[@VeridianBlues]

I am sure animals are happy you appreciate that but so is Pharmaceutical industry that is getting millions only from animal industry. I wonder why...

[@trevorloughlin1492]

Then why not tissue engineer an immune system to go with it?

[@atherofthevoid]

@@trevorloughlin1492really hard

[@kyosokutai]

@@trevorloughlin1492 Because those immune systems require bone marrow to replenish itself, and that marrow needs to be housed in bones and those bones require specialized cells to build and maintain and those cells need a liver or a spleen or whatever organ, at some point you may as well just raise cows normally instead of wasting time re-inventing the cow.

[@kevin8499]

​@@kyosokutai It goes all the way around and the only difference would be that one is alive and the other is not

[@BarryDylan111]

It's so crazy how much money is put into "solutions" to problems which are created by big corporations and monopolies. And then the same corporations and monopolies put the blame on the consumer and not on their own business practices...

[@sebastianlucas704]

That's what happens when government funds them.

[@xdreamerx6]

When I was growing stuff in a lab way back when, we grew it in Bovine growth serum (BGS) which is basically cow juice. This still requires cows to be "juiced".

[@araincs]

I thought it was made of cow fetuses?

[@Joe-l1r]

@@araincs There are different kinds of serums, the one you are talking about is Fetal bovine serum

[@Trahloc]

The Thoughtemporium (use Google to fix that spelling hah) mentioned some folks in ?Japan? wrote a paper on how to use ?Gatorade? And something else. I can't remember but I recall he found it hilarious. Apparently once he has sufficient cells grown he wants to try it on some as it'd make it a lot cheaper.

[@cunjoz]

my friend calls milk "cow juice"

[@SalihFCanpolat]

Juiced cow! You made my day!

[@flbartlett]

Beans, bugs, and lab sludge. Two all bug patties, special sludge, lettuce, synthetic cheese, pickles, onions, on a gluten free bun.

[@Why_stop_at_41]

you think you get to eat real lettuce, pickles and onions, peasant?

[@lkjkhfggd]

Yup, bugs are the way to go. Bugs are cheap af to farm and supposedly are exceptionally nutrient dense.

[@MADDMOODY516]

in that order...

[@NumbaOne]

I'ma roach burger man myself with tomato and extra sludge

[@FantasmaNaranja]

love that the veggie are the only unaltered ingredients there but yeah i'd eat that, i got nothing agaisnt bug patties and american "cheese" is already 80% synthetic so

[@amanawolf9166]

I've worked with cells, and it is no joke that those things are monstrous PITA's, despite their small size. The broth itself is 1 issue. In the lab, you have to monitor growth conditions, extract spent growth media, rinse cells with STERILE fluid, apply new growth media, do cellular checkups for abnormalities, and then -- praying to the lab gods -- hope your cells turn out. That stuff counted for a large portion of my grade in the final exam of the class. Still remember one of my dishes of cells being little SoBs. They gave me a not so subtle..., ahem, "go eff yourself" when they turned cancerous and said cancer cells looked like a phallic symbol. Right now, as it stands, lab grown meat is not viable. It's just a proof of concept. We need massive discoveries in cellular growth technology to expedite the process, enhance it's potency, etc.... It will require years of research + massive funding to develop the tech proper. Again, what we have is just an expensive proof of concept. My hope is that on our way towards lab-grown meat, we can use our advancements to create newer methods for people that need special treatments. Cancers, birth deformities, burn patients, and more could benefit from the tech. It would be wonderful if we could take a(n) technique/idea in that division, applying it towards burn ward patients. Imagine the potential at a well-stocked, well funded hospital. We could have a broth/stock mixture in a vial, use a patients undamaged tissue cells, combine the two, and use 3D printing technology on organic polymer sheets aid in recovery, said layer impregnated with a diverse cocktail of necessary nutrients to speed up recovery. Anyways, I do agree we're too optimistic, but we shouldn't stop trying.

[@Kopie0830]

Or, maybe we can make a genetically engineered lizard with a meaty and fat tail or a engineered axocotyl the size of a croc. Chop the tail and let it grow.

[@CliffCardi]

I loved my microbiology class in college 10 years ago, and my professor waxed on and on about how perfectly ideal the environment for the Petri dishes had to be when getting his PhD. I don’t blame him, since we didn’t have to attempt to harvest aerobic bacteria cultures suffocating in their own CO2 and ammonia.

[@AD-lh3jk]

I’m curious whether exploration towards mimicking the natural process of incubation (I.e. artificial wombs) might be useful in providing an alternative framework to these tanks culturing methods I recall there was an artificial womb breakthrough 5-ish years ago, but I’m unsure of what the efficacy rate is

[@lancethrust9488]

I WILL FIGHT AND DIE ON THE FRONTLINES AGAINST THE MARKISTS BEFORE I EAT THAT DEATH MEAT

[@TheOnlyWayYeshua]

they are using HELA immortalized cells

[@CGR89]

Never trust anyone who tells you that you’re in extreme danger unless you give them your money.

[@infidelheretic923]

The thing is we ARE in danger. But this won't help.

[@blackturbine]

I would like to point out that rest of the cow is not just thrown away after getting the meat from it. Almost entirety of the cow is used including bones and even manure. Artificial meat would force lot of other industries to adapt meaning cost of the steak would be just small part of big issue

[@kimwarburton8490]

human manure and pet bones ;)

[@TheLoiteringKid]

Wonder how many printers have bone black in the ink.

[@EbonMaster]

@@kimwarburton8490 you gonna create a national donation system or are we reconfiguring everything on a structural level to automate that? lol

[@ralkia]

people are commodities. create the skibidi toilet factory to harvest human poop

[@simon199731]

Also dairy cow eat mostly byproduct (waste)like the straw left after collecting corn or grain, whey left after producing cheese and bunch of thing we would need to get rid of

[@PhilTruthborne]

Honestly the whole lab meat question is quite simple. It's a science that needs more development. It's not ready to be applied. It doesn't matter how badly some greedy people want to make money of it, it needs more time and work before it can actually function at all.

[@rewindcat7927]

History has taught us that I f it doesn’t work now it’s 100% impossible and will never ever work. All the great scientists of history always give up if something doesn’t work first time.

[@jakedespppp]

@@rewindcat7927 science is literally built on trial and error what are you saying bro

[@hkgx]

@@jakedespppp I think that he was being sarcastic

[@jakedespppp]

@@hkgx I can't really tell. Perceive my comment in your own way I guess cuz I have no idea lol

[@rewindcat7927]

@@jakedespppp I wholeheartedly agree with the original comment. The video was short-sighted imo, and I regretted watching it. Sarcasm was not the best way to express this.

[@badddkattt]

I was fantasizing about making lab meat as a teenager in the 1960s. I was a big fan of science fiction and space exploration and I was planning to become a biologist. I was also interested in economics. Lab grown meat seemed like a normal extrapolation of technology; it did occur to me that steaks are more than a collection of cells but I didn’t think too hard about that.

[@Khunark]

the people today falling for it don't have ideals or imagination, they never read a book. not an independent thought or drive.

[@botesz20]

​@@Khunark many of them are intelligent, enthusiastic people scammed by snake oil salesmen. It happens to every group.

[@adelMN2]

@@Khunark you can't have an ideal in a corrupt world only naive deluded idiots would

[@tactileslut]

In the sci-fi of my youth food was either a single daily pill or flavored algae.

[@sking2173]

You got that idea from StarTrek - they had “food replicators” …

[@positivelysimful1283]

Considering they still haven't been able to replicate formula with the same health benefits as breast milk, I can't imagine that lab-grown meat would be as healthy as natural meat.

[@FishSticker]

Meat doesn’t have special stuff to be healthy, it’s mostly just a fuckton of protein

[@engineeringforlife1367]

Wait for Brad Pitt or some Kardashians to make an ad eating it, and everyone will jump in the hype train.

[@muffinmonk]

WIL would have an aneurism

[@ruthannmarie7119]

Not a big, a bowl of bugs .

[@anonymousdonor8084]

They will stage a bunch of hip millennial "influencers" eating it....Yeeeeaaach!

[@markbator4672]

I'll wait for Brad Pitt to eat some Kardashian, Then i'll jump on that flesh train.

[@PoptartParasol]

They already have lul (hopped on it I mean sans celebrities. Idk if that's white or black pilling)

[@kronosbot5]

Considering that people can tell the differences in taste between two similar animals that were fed on completely different diets during their lifetimes, I don't think anybody will be fooled by anyone trying to sneak 'cell-slurry' into their gourmet experience.

[@GameTimeWhy]

Grass fed looks and tastes completely different than grain fed. "Better" is subjective Oh sorry I thought you said people can't tell the difference

[@linkeddevices]

The idiocy is that theres literally no market. Vegetarians don't miss burgers. They're just technofascists who think everyone is and should be the same and are so far right wing they don't understand the concept that people are different. I don't drink. I don't like beef at all. I don't like bacon at all. I actually pick it out. When the pork industry puts our seo like the meme "it's like the first time you ever had bacon" and you're supposed to form some sort of memory that's positive. Bacon is disgusting. It's all waste product and no one would eat pork. It was just used to get rid it farm crap kinda like Britain fed dead cows to other cows. The proof that pork is disgusting is the fact that no one just eats steamed pork. It has to be candied salted or anything to override the stench. It's historically a crap meat like eating bugs or crawfish ie. Sea roaches. It's full of parasites. And pigs are really smart. In Hawaii it'd be a ceremonial food that'd be hard to hunt and they were hunting boar not pigs. People also hunt moose. Hart, pheasant etc. But those can't be done with the amount of cruelty. In the butchers that the were shut down by peta you'd inspect the chicken and that would ensure they were well treated. They got rid of all the butchers that would display their animals now they're going after "wet markets" while ignoring how baby rats and mice are fed to snakes and they are always mixed and sick and the cause of animal to human transmission of disease not wet markets which have been a thing forever and is the only way to tell whether fish or fowl are treated well and healthily. If a McDonald's chichen was shown at a wet market everyone would be disgusted. That's the point.

[@ChristopherWanha]

My guess is through subsidies it would end up in kids lunches & fast foods. Maybe even used as filler with pink slime in real meat. The subsidies would be key since it wouldn't make economic sense.

[@GameTimeWhy]

@@linkeddevices pork is amazing steamed or bbq or fried with minimal spice. what are you talking about?

[@Emppu_T.]

People try to say that the oat thing is like real milk. Nothing like it.

[@RockSolitude]

For lab grown meat to work, each bioreactor needs an autonomous mechanical liver, an autonomous mechanical pair of kidneys, an improved oxygen delivery system, an autonomous waste disposal system, and an artificial immune system. At that point you might as well just use what nature gave us and have a cow.

[@olotocolo]

honestly, breeding cows that have like no higher cognitive capabilities would be easier, cheaper and more environmentally friendly while also being more humane than current system

[@hellosammy4105]

I think the point is you can hook several meat units to a single support system to increase efficiency. That would be like several cows sharing 1 set of organs. Also cows die when you harvest their meat. The point is to be able to harvest meat and regrow without killing the system.

[@justinjakeashton]

As ingenious as that sounds, that gave me one hell of a mental image. Just a bunch of blocks of meat growing in containers, plugged into a life support machine and being carved out and harvested like doner kebab.@@hellosammy4105

[@RVBMichaelJCaboose]

Listening to all the sanitation regulations regarding lab meat, it’s also the same fallacy regarding bug meat: you can’t just throw a bunch of random roaches in a blender, the meat being cultivated needs to be properly regulated and sanitized so that come to production, you’re not at risk of getting any food poisoning or worse.

[@_Ekaros]

I remember hearing about study about those bugs. Most of the farms around were infected by something, be it parasites or something else. And really what would you expect in those conditions. And bugs also have basic immune system and defences... Where as lab meat has none.

[@JonathenPetrie]

@@_Ekaros most insect pathogens cannot harm humans. Their bodies are very different.

[@rev3274]

@@JonathenPetrie Go eat the boogs then. There are devastating effects of eating bugs well beyond pathogens.

[@Account.for.Comment]

I love eating crickets as snacks. People have been catching, frying and eating crickets for hundreds of years. They are wild, organic not domesticated animals, caught in traditional rice plants, not in industrial plants. This insect lab sounds like what they do to Casava. A "poison" carb that had fed millions around the world when cooked the traditional way, and became actual poison when the "scientific" healthy ways to safely eat them aren't robust enough.

Nonono those are two VERY different situations

[@Bal_Naath]

No. I'll raise my own grass fed cattle before I buy this.

[@gaurd3]

hopefully you have the land or get it it before foreign nationals and bill gates buy up all the farm land

[@homies1270]

So you own a farm/barn

[@gaurd3]

@@homies1270 I’m fine eating slurry.

[@LonelyTreeSunset]

Basically, it's ultra processed garbage.

[@razorkid1525]

If you want to secure food production it makes no sense... But if you want full control of it...

[@PlatinumAbra]

Hench the whole point of losing all the money, control of all of it!

[@The_Natalist]

Thats absolutely what it is

[@truedemoknight6784]

As if farmers don't already control all your food sources anyways?

[@zanard33]

@@truedemoknight6784 unless you can till your own land and take care of your own livestock, you have to rely on farmers, who aren't even turning profit due to how much bureaucracy they have to deal with.

[@noimnotnice]

@@truedemoknight6784 "farmers" Lol. Lmao. Multibillion dollar conglomerates for seeds and fertilizer are who controls the food supply.

[@357Dejavu]

I think the closer we are to natural food, the better off and more environmentally friendly we are.

[@TheTSense]

As someone who brews his own mead, I can confirm. There are all these tiny lifeforms in there, fighting each other. You want yeast to win.

[@bellphorusnknight]

very scary

[@keeislegend]

To the victor goes the spoils

[@kimwarburton8490]

So you'll understand his analogy of a dirty brewer is false^

[@TheTSense]

@@kimwarburton8490 Yes, Lab-Meat requires that there are no lifeforms what-so-every. It doesn't pick a fight like yeast does

[@TheLoiteringKid]

Fellow brewer(love my lemon wine) getting your yeast to be the dominant life form in your brew can be a nightmare or can go without a hitch batch after batch, Yeast you can always over pitch or bloom and build up, but the sanitation between and in between is key foundation to repeatable success.

11:35 - That's something that bugs me about lab grown meat. In real meat, the nutrients in it depends on how the animal was raised (what it ate, did it get enough sun, etc). How are they going to replicate that? Are they just adding supplements to the meat? I'm tired of hearing "but animal take supplements too" instead of an actual answer.

[@rdizzy1]

The meat is identical, on a cellular level.

[@curtislavoie2242]

@@rdizzy1 To what? A sick cow, a grass fed cow, a corn fed cow?

[@bubblegodanimation4915]

@@curtislavoie2242 The healthiest possible.

[@curtislavoie2242]

@@bubblegodanimation4915 You must be an investor🤣

@@GearlessJoe0 in that timestamp he just says it goes in a vat with a all the nutrients the cell needs. What are those nutrients? For example, does it have vitamin A or it have some carotenoids that gets converted to vitamin A?

[@BobbyIronsights]

The first time we sequenced the human genome, it took 3 billion dollars, now it's down to 600 and still falling.

[@ElizabethUkeh]

Very different thing

[@atheneus]

@@ElizabethUkehand yet, similar. Everything is expensive at first and then becomes really cheap later

[@mausegetlit363]

​@@atheneus that depends on economic factors. If it was the case, all food in general would be the cheapest in history. In reality it's most expensive now

[@atheneus]

@@mausegetlit363 food has never been so cheap or plentiful. Neither have fat people

[@BobbyIronsights]

@@mausegetlit363 actually, food is the cheapest in history, In medieval times only lords and ladies could eat meat, 200 years ago new american immigrants wrote with awe that some americans ate meat every day, now even the lowest paid minimum wage worker can get a double cheeseburger with only 15minutes wages.

[@mmkr0000]

If only they used their resources, talent and effort to make lab organs. So many people could benefit from this.

[@yoshideku117]

The goal is not benefit😂... is profits

[@johnholowach]

Scientists are actively working on that, and it's wildly different from what this is. Two things can be happening at the same time.

[@mmkr0000]

@@johnholowach That's what I keep hearing since when I was an elementary school kid. Now I'm in my mid forties ...

[@JamesBrown-rd8og]

AGREE : (((((((((@@mmkr0000

[@sebastianlucas704]

​@@johnholowach True, but if the funding was transferred from lab grown meat to lab organs, that would speed up the technological advancement of lab organs significantly.

[@iam2strong]

I usually get skeptical (and you should be too) about claims that an artificial process would be better at creating organic matter than nature.

[@chairmanm7686]

Very simple principle but spot on! Agreed.

[@nic12344]

Nobody claimed it would be better than nature, only that it would be a viable way to replace nature.

[@gibbysplendid3725]

@@nic12344 why would we want a viable equivalent solution? Spend money and things stay the same? These things are funded on the principle the benefits will outweigh the current practice.

[@AR-ix8fq]

That's really weird because a crap ton of natural products are currently being made artificially.

[@HelloOnepiece]

We are sure better at creating insulin now

[@sekito2125]

They know it’s a scam, you know it’s a scam, they know you it’s a scam - but there’s nothing you can do about it

[@jonathanbowen3640]

Its not a scam. Its just rather expensive at the moment. It does have a future as a premium food. I actually bought A5 Wagyu to cook myself recently that is more expensive then some of the projected costings for lab meat in say ten years time

[@b1ff]

You could just _not_ buy any of it.

[@sergey_a]

Just imagine that there was a compact laboratory for the production of meat, with protection from bacteria and viruses, mobility and low cost... Wait a minute.

[@drowsyCoffee]

reinventing cows is the new reinventing trains, 10/10

[@InTrancedState]

Robot cows let's go

[@Rainheron]

And imagine if these labs could take the waste material from farming that humans can't eat and turn it into fertilizer to boot! Almost like nature has it all figured out or something.

[@kauske]

It would be nice if we could stack them thousands of floors high, in the dark, and not worry about land use or greenhouse gas emissions though. Current models suffer a lot of troubles with being packed in tightly. Or in other words, it's not viable now, but it's definitely got benefits to being further developed. Never say never, just say 'not today, but someday maybe.' Unlike flying cars, there are potential up-sides to vertical farming and improving livestock; and those improvements might not even be what we think. It could be as simple as genetically engineering animals to make less methane. There's hundreds of ways it could go, and it's hard to predict what path it will take.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@kauske "It could be as simple as genetically engineering animals to make less methane." Yeah, so simple it could win a Nobel Prize if it happened.

[@mrpablomx]

There’s a documentary on YT that interviews former Slaughterhouse workers. They’re all traumatized and depressed from having to to what they did. It’s soooo easy for us to just walk into a supermarket and purchase a piece of steak without having to deal with all the Insane Nastyness that is the Meat Industry. I don’t know if this Lab Grown Meat thing is going to be the solution but something has to change. Also people say it’s nasty as if they weren’t chugging down hot dogs, burgers, chicken nuggets and all sorts of processed disgusting crap down their mouths.

[@Danielle-zq7kb]

It makes more sense to let people keep chickens, goats, rabbits, sheep, pigeons and cows - depending on their home size. In Egypt people have kept chickens and pigeons on apartment building roofs. It also makes sense to encourage growing vegetables, fruits and nuts over lawns.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

But if the people have food independence, then how will the elite gain complete and total control over everybody's lives?

[@BabyYoda5555]

Consumers today “get 80/20 ground beef. It’s 80% meat 20% fat”. Consumers in the future “get 80/20 meat slurry. It’s 80% soy protein 20% cell cultured protein”

[@coot33]

🤮

[@notmorc8892]

Give us 5 years and the economic forum will be feeding us corpse starch

[@consoommediaandlie8614]

nope, never eating the goyslop

[@theophiled]

and 0% animal cruelty / less likely to be contaminated. Yeah I think I would take that, thanks you very much.

[@blablup1214]

@@theophiled If you watched the video "less likely to be contaminated" isn't true. This grown meat is very hard to keep it "clean"

[@prawjeke]

It is ironic that people are so suspicious about people tinkering with their fruits and vegetables (this they choose organic), but when it comes to meat, it can be grown in a lab and that is fine.

[@Adam-jo3gu]

I'm pretty sure people are still suspicious of lab grown meet. just because it's being done, doesn't mean it is widely supported.

[@zacheryeckard3051]

GMO is safe and so is lab meat. Would love to see your data to the opposite.

[@asbestoz1123]

@@zacheryeckard3051 these two things shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence. Altering an organism to enhance the traits we want versus reverse-engineering an organism.

[@zacheryeckard3051]

​@@asbestoz1123 It's all just biomechanics and organic chemistry. There isn't really a difference. You're also just vaguely gesturing at hypocrisy anyway, though. Lab grown meat is superior to normal meat because there is no cruelty involved. It's an ethical concern. Folks going organic is generally a health concern fueled by ignorance, sadly.

[@asbestoz1123]

@@zacheryeckard3051 The creation of meat is very different from genetic modification. Maybe watch the video. And ethics aren’t the only concern of the food you eat, if you decided to only eat lab grown meat you would need a 7 figure income.

[@dreamcastH]

I love how scientists say we need to reduce carbon emissions from factories and change agricultural practices. So some A hole comes out and says "No actually we need this product that isn't sustainable but fits the narrative"

[@SoullessAIMusic]

Because at the end of the day it is always about the money. I think the idea of using the environment is absolutely genius. How the hell can the average person look about and be able to judge whether or not what they are doing is harming the environment? It's almost invisible, therefore you can tell them whatever the hell you want to tell them about it.

[@nickrondinelli1402]

So it turns out that you need an entire organism to grow an organism. Who could have forseen this?

[@UsmevavyPanacek]

Another thing people who are into lab meat and eating bugs forget about is manure, which is still needed in agriculture whether we farm animals or not. Without organic matter, soil is degrading quite fast.

[@mrlloyd149]

whenever I get excited by new advancements in Science, Medicine and Technology; and then a bunch of rich and powerful soulless people and corporations start pushing said advancements like their life depends on it: I start to wonder whether they really want to improve our lives or just line their pockets and lead us into a dystopia

[@jacobarcher1097]

They just want to line their pockets, they don't care if it becomes dystopian or utopian. That's the profit motive in action

[@VeridianBlues]

I wonder do 60+ ppl who liked your comment see the irony that they are the ones who are powerful and soulless since they are butchering the animals and treating them like things. Funny how those people don't see themselves as soulless.

[@gigachad6885]

​@@VeridianBluesok Klaus Schwab, we won't eat your lab poison.

[@Chocoholiclady66]

@@VeridianBlues Do you consider carnivorous animals the same way when they kill and eat other animals? Why is killing all of those poor plants (also a living thing) okay, but not other food sources? How about insects? They are ALL living, breathing organisms so why does anybody else get to decide which life is more worthy than another in the food chain -- including our own food sources?

[@GeorgeMonet]

Always assume the one that involves greed.

[@panny5173]

Talking about genetically modified foods, I have gripe about 2 of them.1 is apples that are flavorless granny Smith tart apples from Walmart as well as many other if their fruit and vegetables are bland and flavorless. 2 is the way they are procesing Maxwell house and folders and other brands. I have been drinking coffee daily for over 59 years. It's not the same. I'm not sure how they are doing it but it tastes like they steam and extract the flavor from the beans (there is a need for coffee flavoring and caffeine they can profit off) and it also tastes so bitter as if the are grinding the the coffee bean leaves and stems to make the weight heavier to get a bigger profit.

[@frankbauerful]

I went out and asked an expert on meat production to comment on this video. She said, and I'm quoting verbatim here, "Moo."

[@Frostea]

Singapore is probably not doing it for environmental concerns, but rather, for the simple fact that there is basically no land in Singapore that can support traditional farming of meat products. So it is a matter of national security, albeit not a super serious one, given its widespread trading partners.

[@wander-0014]

They probably don't want to rely two heavily on trade in order to get meat

[@brianh2287]

When will humans learn that nature is more intelligent than human ?

[@beepbeepnj2658]

Dr. Fred Kummeorw who lived to age 102 knew this over 5 decades ago but no one believed him.

[@playboxfan]

The 1% know, they just want control and power over the 99%.

[@infinitestare]

when the sun engulfs the solar system

[@seriisland]

What was the cost of the 1st computer?

[@lolpazzprapompa]

rule of thumb. Eat whole foods, basically a naturally cow. eat less processed foods, so no slurry flesh.

[@rosewhiteheart8203]

This certainly makes me appreciate natural biology more

[@HansDunkelberg1]

Yes, you're automatically led into the notion that you could add something like veins, like lungs, like livers and kidneys...

[@markusbisma5015]

You will be surprised at how "natural" the meats you eat.

[@구독자500명되면이같은]

I worked in biofuels industry for 7 years and this is exactly the same reason why that also failed Biological limit and economic cost

[@guts60]

Fun fact: methane emissions from livestock is so small compared to everything else it doesn’t even matter. It’s just a scapegoat so humans don’t have to blame themselves. Also, all the land that we raise livestock on is actually land we can’t grow crops on. In the future, when farmers try to grow stuff on livestock land, they are gonna be hit hard by the reality that swamp/marshland and rocky soil is shitty for crops

[@SchemingGoldberg]

Bingo. 90% of land is not arable, which means it's physically impossible to grow crops on that land. But grass can grow on that land, and animals can eat that grass.

[@Katniss0000]

Fun fact it is a combination of many things. It is the highly industrialized farming. Doesn't matter??? We are talking about 1.5 billion cows not just 1 cow. Methane has 28 times greater global warming potential than carbon dioxide and 84 times more potent. + You also have to account for all the deforestation to make room for the cattles. + what do you feed the cows? air? random grass in your backyard? 60% of the crops we grow are fed to animals. + the transportation of meat. Labgrown meat is the future. every new innovation/invention is always like this from the start.

[@monsterking7676]

Yknow, I always assumed they'd just making horrible flesh abominations that grow like fungus but taste and look like beef.

[@socius00]

Same, I feel like that would solve a lot of the biological problems described too.

[@Dram1984]

Same. Like a giant sack of organs with tubes attached that grows meat. You know; man made horrors beyond our comprehension.

[@zyansheep]

@@Dram1984 seems like you comprehended it pretty well lol

[@PlatinumAbra]

@@Dram1984 Like eat a Cthulhu?

[@Derpynewb]

@@Dram1984 Would you rather kill something concious and living, or would you rather kill an eldritch horror?

[@ChronicleContent]

Summary: In this video, we will be discussing the challenges and promises of lab-grown meat. Firstly, we will explore the issue of lab-grown chicken being expensive and unsustainable, and how this raises questions about the sustainability of lab meat as a whole. We will then delve into a cost analysis of lab meat, examining the challenges of producing it in bioreactors. We will discuss the various challenges that lab meat faces, as well as the promises that it holds for the future of sustainable food production. We will also take a closer look at Zymergen's optimistic vision for lab meat, and the challenges that they face in scaling up production. Finally, we will examine the investment risks associated with lab meat, as well as the gamble that is being Key Takeaways: - The video discusses the challenges and promises of lab-grown meat - It explores the issue of lab-grown chicken being expensive and unsustainable, and how this raises questions about the sustainability of lab meat as a whole - The video also examines the challenges of producing lab meat in bioreactors and discusses the various challenges that lab meat faces, as well as the promises that it holds for the future of sustainable food production - It takes a closer look at Zymergen's optimistic vision for lab meat and the challenges they face in scaling up production - Finally, the video examines the investment risks associated with lab meat and the gamble that is being taken. Timestamps: 0:00:00 - Lab-grown chicken expensive and unsustainable. 0:02:34 - Lab meat's sustainability questioned. 0:05:14 - Lab meat cost analysis. 0:07:48 - Bioreactor challenges for lab meat. 0:10:25 - Lab meat challenges and promises. 0:12:58 - Zymergen's optimistic vision 0:15:36 - Challenges in lab meat. 0:18:09 - Lab meat scaling challenges. 0:20:49 - Investment risks in lab meat. 0:23:20 - Lab meat cost gamble.

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

thank you

[@Borzogo]

scary AI

[@daniel2991]

Thanks, chatGPT

[@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere]

Which AI was used for this

[@10Alan17]

Yo hm adderall you on??

[@Maduc]

I lost it at the caviar drenched in orange juice

[@jimbojimbo6873]

Why does everyone forget the important point for why this should be a thing, like you know, not killing animals?

[@tablescissors]

No one did, but again you are refusing to listen to the many other points from your ivory tower, while ppl around the world are hungry and resource poor. Nor do they have to share your beliefs against evolution whatsoever (especially since they cannot afford a dietitian if their health degrades via experimentation with thier nutrition).

[@diariodeumcasalviking5425]

This is not even counting the amount of resources you can extract from cows besides the meat itself, like milk, leather, etc

[@hungrymusicwolf]

Something we forgot is that animals are already designed to be efficient at using energy. The only downside is that animals aren't designed to grow as large as we want them to, but that is a lot easier to achieve using medical technology than doing everything the body does in a lab as efficiently as an animal does in the wild.

[@nickl5658]

Artificial selective breeding says we can improve. Chickens in the 2020 grow 4 times heavier and reach maturity in half the time compared to their ancestors of 1948.

[@byfrax2371]

A lot of things that are advertised as "sustainable" are actually a fluke. My advice: learn about LCAs (Life Cycle Assessments), how they work and see for yourself. Great video btw

[@Guccifield]

my family owns a brewery and the reason why its easier to brew beer than grow cells is because yeast does the work to eliminate competition during its ethanol fermentation, coverting the sugar to ethanol which eliminates other bacteria and fungi. cells dont have that and are quite defenseless.

[@darkglass3011]

This is like that episode of SpongeBob where a corporation started serving synthetic Krabby Patties. Always go for the real stuff because that's what tastes best.

[@ninototo1]

No you're just simple minded. Llike a caveman that refuses to go shopping in a supermarket because hunting/gathering your food is the "real" way to do it.

[@pyrokinetikrlz]

But experts said that nuclear energy was impossible. But experts said that personal computers were unfeasible. Experts think things are not doable until they are done

[@pikapi6993]

not comparable at all and not helpful to understand this specific case. Do you have an argument for this specific case?

[@pyrokinetikrlz]

@@pikapi6993 My point is that sometimes there are breakthroughs in the field (or in other fields) that enable things considering impossible/unfeasible by experts! Physicist 200 years ago were sure that no machine heavier than air would fly...guess what?

[@al-aurum2457]

i remember how stem cell originally has the potential to heal internal organs for example heart, kidneys without requiring extensive and expensive operations...imagine all that billions are focused on just that...

[@ninototo1]

It still can do these things, the only issue are ethical concerns because embryonic stem cells are needed (which kills the embryo)

[@DefinitelyNotAWeebs]

@@ninototo1 What ethical concerns? these days lots of people is fine about killing fetuses. Being sacrifised for science is way better than just rotting in a random abortion clinic garbage bin

[@StopReadingThisYouNerd]

@@ninototo1 Most stem cell research these days are focused on induced pluripotent stem cells, which avoid ethical issues and are generally more therapeutically useful. That being said, regenerative medicine is still in its infancy. Give it 50 years or so.

[@ninototo1]

@@StopReadingThisYouNerd My Professor didn't mention these in class so I wasn't aware that's a thing. Actually pretty irritating because we discussed the ethics of therapeutic cloning under the assumption the embryo needs to die but apparently induced pluripotent stem cells circumvent the issue entirely. Thank you very much for telling me.

[@StageWatcher]

@@ninototo1 I'm in no way an expert, but even setting the ethical considerations aside, stem cells sourced from embryos always struck me as undesirable compared to induced pluripotent stem cells for one simple reason: immune rejection. Anyone who receives embryonic stem cell replacements will be dependent upon immunosuppressants for the rest of their life. Also, last I heard about stem cell treatments, embryonic stem cell research was consistently failing to deliver on its promises, while adult sourced stem cells are already currently being used in treatments. The way that the media and universities ignore these issues really reinforces my view that the hysteria over defending embryonic stem cells had more to do with justifying abortion than with actual medical benefits. Edit: I wrote the oxymoronic "adult sourced embryonic stem cells." Fixed.

[@Lambda.Function]

"Meat is unsustainable" ???????????????? If meat was unsustainable, there would be no living carnivores on Earth, including us.

[@ennpii8147]

But meat IS unsustainable, at least in the sense of industrial production for human consumption.

[@daniell-naturaesplosiva1076]

In fact, the big carnivors meet extintion when they are too many or eat too much Meat isnt an infinite source

[@Lambda.Function]

@@daniell-naturaesplosiva1076 They can't grow more prey, we can. The reason we can sustain many billions of people is modern agriculture and farming practices. If we were nomadic hunters still, we'd be extinct. Growing to 7+ billion apex predators seems to spit in the face of the idea of "well we just can't eat meat."

[@ericpazo]

This is investigating journalism 👏 👏 congratulations for your hard work

[@CruzMonrreal]

This is the REAL benefit of these types of videos

[@Edpro01-z5d]

no is just trash journalism trying to deceive you from the elephant on the room. Lab grown meat is very expensive and hard to make right now like any other technology on its infancy, the money put towards it is to achieve food cheaper than killing animals. These guys like to take papers out of context and fabricate a lie around it just to get some views.

[@Korvmannen]

Coffeezilla does investigative journalism. That is quite different to the other important job of evaluation of already published works (both are necessary)

[@sleepingbag2424]

At some point, you have to ask if we might as well start growing livestock without central nervous systems, to make us feel better about killing anything "conscious"

[@RalphBarbagallo]

Yeah I was really big on this tech until I read that 2021 article you mentioned. I sold all my stock (I didn't have much) in lab meat companies.

[@CausallyExplained]

This channel is the epitome of "I'm getting paid by the meat farmers to say sh*t about anything that threatens them." stop taking anything he says at face value.

[@bogdan1213]

you shouldn't have done it. it's a scam but the govs will invest HEAVILY in it. in 5 years there will be hundreds of billions form govs.

[@turtleanton6539]

Oof😊

[@Eric..Cartman]

Personally, i don't care about its cost or carbon footprints. I just want a world where intelligent animals don't have to live a horrible life and death

[@HPoppington]

Bill Gates is displeased.

[@SiddarthSiddu71]

When someone finally figures out how to fix all the problems with waste/circulation/texture/immune system... You've just made/cloned a cow.

[@DNA-DNB]

That is if those problems can be fixed we don't know yet. Maybe it's an impossible task

[@shlokdhara5798]

​@@DNA-DNB I don't think it's impossible, will just take a few decades with his fast tech is advancing

[@DNA-DNB]

@@shlokdhara5798 you do realize certain things are impossible. This might just be a thing...

[@SiddarthSiddu71]

@@DNA-DNB They might need to genetically engineer a living organism for the sole purpose of producing meat effectively and efficiently with usage of given resources to make it feasible. It's definitely in the territory of possibility, just the technology hasn't advanced enough. They have the vision of the outcome correct which is to mass produce meat in the most efficient way possible and they put together something based on what is available today and to pull money for investment... They played the profits for the investors, just don't have the right technology roadmap ready to a level where they can produce something which tastes like meat and feels like meat and is meat.

[@shlokdhara5798]

@@DNA-DNB Maybe but I don't think cloning is impossible, there was just a 60 year difference between the first airplane and the first man on moon. We'll see tho but I believe in science

[@MarksmanSpecialist]

the cow will be the last to be laid off in its job.

[@Mady-lo6qb]

Theranos is a clear example that investors often have no idea if what they are investing in is feasible or not. But they have oodles of money to gamble on so just dump cash on some plausible ideas and hope one of them strikes you rich (er).

[@dvdragon]

LMNT has electrolytes. It's what plants crave.

[@aroundandround]

It’s really tricky to predict that a technology will never in the future be able to mature enough to be cheap and low-energy.

[@blastermaster5039]

The hubris of know it all know nothing never knows no bound and that includes the idea of replacing animals as meat.

[@adeoo7508]

note that it will need just one breakthrough for him to rewrite this entire video 18:40

[@tomfoolery5844]

Another huge issue is the fact that the different muscles of the animal develop the way they do because of the varied functions and work the muscles perform throughout the animal’s lifetime. A majority of the appeal with animal meat is the fact that different cuts are fattier, leaner, tougher, more tender, and have different flavors. People won’t want to eat strictly ground meat, especially if it’s expensive. Also, you can get a much higher quality of ground meat for much less money by chucking a halfway decent cut of meat in a meat grinder. I just don’t see anyone but desperate vegans eating cultured meat.

[@sharkhead216]

So what you're saying is, we tried to do nature better than nature and failed. Who would have thought millions of years of evolution would actually be *checks notes* extremely efficient?

[@blondiepianist]

This channel's production value is top-notch. Mad respect for whomever is editing and doing all the animations and thumbnails!

[@WhatIveLearned]

Thanks! I tackled most everything except for the sweet animation of the jumping cow with the cells. Have a great animator in the Netherlands for more polished animations like that

[@blondiepianist]

@@WhatIveLearned Awesome! I already found your channel interesting a ways back, but you really seem to have hit your stride now. Keep bringing us the invaluable content :)

[@SponTen]

@@WhatIveLearned Sorry if you've mentioned this somewhere, but what is going on with some of the super weird morphing/warping of some shots? eg. The warping of your face at 13:09, and whatever is happening with the words "NUTRIENT LIQUID" at 23:11.

[@awihuke]

​@@SponTen​ Yeah I'm gonna be honest I'm not a huge fan of the AI visuals. Some of them were subtle enough to work, like the "investor men" holding cash, but most other things really threw me off.

[@DennisJosephin]

Yea amazing video with great explanation and visuals

[@Applemangh]

Really makes you appreciate how well nature already solved the process of "growing meat" over millions and millions of years of evolution. You need a cost effective way to simulate or replace almost every aspect of an animal in order to pull this off.

[@georgewashington938]

We still don't know if artificial meat will be healthy and nutritious when it is a staple in human diets. It seems like most of the lessons we have learned over the previous 100 years or so (after the introduction of industrialized and processed food) teach us that having whole and lightly cooked (or raw) foods in our diet are important for health. There are compounds, enzymes and other things in natural foods that have not been well replaced by supplements (I just saw a video about how vegans struggle with chronic health issues even with complicated diet and supplement regiments).

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

This "lab grown meat" is just muscle cells, as I understand, unless I missed something. So I wonder how many vitamins and other nutrients in real-world meat originate in non-muscle tissues? Liver, bone marrow, skin, immune system, glands, etc. I find it easy to imagine artificially created meat lacking something.

[@MrXXBSXx]

Your video is full of errors and you make a lot of claims without citations. Please read the cultivated meat LCA report. David Humbergs "analysis" is an opinion piece and is based on false assumptions on the current practice of lab grown meat. You have a lot of reach and therefore you should back up your claims instead of spreading misinformation to 400k people.

[@avegan209]

Yes

[@husbandrew]

I appreciate the efforts to look into alternatives and we understand why things don't work.

[@PlatinumAbra]

@@user-pq3vd6oc1c But, we raised so much money just to fail, doesn't that prove it's awesome? XD Yeah, it's always been about duping rich idiots, and greedy people.

[@anonymousdonor8084]

It's about CONTROL. CO2 as a greenhouse gas causing climate change is an EFFING LIE.

[@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech]

@@PlatinumAbra Maybe, but this also allows creation of fake food to be used as a bioweapons. Overpopulation has been a belief at the World Economicf Forum who are all billionaires. If we believe Covid 19 was a man made virus with the goal of global population reduction. They would likely do the same with this fake meat. The nations that rely the most for imports of food are all poor nations. They would be the targets for global population reduction.

[@husbandrew]

​@@user-pq3vd6oc1c You don't like technological advancement because of the greed that follows? Uh oh bro.

[@orion10x10]

​@@PlatinumAbra We live in an Oligarchy, none of the .1% is there based on Merit, it's generational wealth and nepotism

[@wgolyoko]

Dude, I don't know what to say... Do you think technology is a static thing ? How many examples do we have of people saying that "the technology won't reach that level" and then it does ? Batteries, computers in general, AIs recently, sequencing of the human genome... All technologies that in due time, found their breakthroughs and made themselves multiple orders of magnitude more efficient. Now we're hearing it for nuclear fusion, for lab meat, and for others.

[@sking2173]

Fine, as long as this test-tube meat tech is funded by private dollars …

[@kizwiz6]

​@S King And why should we fund animal agriculture with tax paying subsidies? I'm vegan, how's that fair on me? The United States federal government spends $38 billion every year subsidizing the meat and dairy industries. Research from 2015 shows this subsidization reduces the price of Big Macs from $13 to $5 and the price of a pound of hamburger meat from $30 to the $5 we see today.

[@CaptainPIanet]

He bought and paid for by the meat industry. This type of video isn't surprising.

[@emmanuel_40]

@@kizwiz6 "And why should we fund animal agriculture with tax paying subsidies?" Because socialism. I agree we should get rid of all government entitlements and lobbyists.

[@GamingWithSpoons]

We need to stop making everything in a man made process.

[@TheRealSaintNickNorthside]

Mass agriculture included.

[@beerboots]

Why?

[@notrhythm]

said a man on the internet

[@WDeranged]

If we "stop making everything in a man made process" you'll need to be ok with billions of people dying of starvation.

[@jc-lk1fp]

Great stuff. I was looking for specifics about culturing the cells specifically. Biopsy>Induced pluripotency>proliferation in a bioreactor>differentiation, scaffolding, etc.

[@sp0_od597]

I feel like their endgame is reinventing the cow just to find out that it costs more and is worse for the environment.

[@ermutanda3802]

"it's just like brewing beer! Now, funnel all of your money into our industry, mine out half the globe to make the facilities we need, and we MIGHT sell you €55 chicken nuggets in 70 years" yeah sounds like a plan to me /s

[@StephenBrennanGuitar]

One thing that isn't covered is how corrupt the process of lab meat would become once established and how many shortcuts manufacturers would take to reduce costs including of course shortcuts relating to their enviromental responsibilities and of course their responsibility to consumer health would go absolutely out the window like it has in every other food sector unless it's extraordinaryly well regulated which would be extremely hard to do, if, as expected, pharmaceutical giants get involved.

[@zacheryeckard3051]

You act like that isn't what happens in most all food production.

[@StephenBrennanGuitar]

@@zacheryeckard3051 reread my comment - I mentioned that

[@VintageToiletsRock]

You'd need top of the line insurance and take out a reverse mortgage just to be able to afford your burger if big pharma was at the helm!

[@Chocoholiclady66]

So, they are planning to produce lab grown meat cells .... then what .... just do a mass killing to get rid of all the evil methane/CO2 producing domestic food animals? Outlaw their existence or future breeding? (Except what will have to be maintained for future cell cultures since cloning isn't sustainable and the cells tend to change over time). Then why are scientists trying to bring extinct species of wild animals and stop endangered animals from going extinct? They also contribute farts! As do humans! Humans are THE most populace! Perhaps it isn't the animals but the people that should be exterminated -- other than a regulated few lab grown tissue specimens and clones!

[@GeorgeMonet]

Well do you want lab grown meat to cost $1000 per pound or $5?

[@D4rkBl4de]

I am absolutely never touching lab grown meat.

[@zeev]

@10:45 what ungodly AI did you use for that effect? Also , your next video should be about insect protein!

[@saviorvi]

@13:04 also!

[@hobbycollector]

probably stable diffusion with some extension like deforum

[@GregHib]

@@hobbycollector Yeah the question is whyy though. At least the 8 finger one made sense.

[@SeganHealthHacker]

Yes. On both.

[@uprightleftdown1]

Im shocked no one is talking about this

[@TokyoXtreme]

I love how gross and thoroughly unappetizing all of this future-goo sounds 😂

[@antonhelsgaun]

I mean not everyone likes a cut up piece of a dead leg either way

[@erlanggaz9105]

@@antonhelsgaun touche

[@maximilianherrmann1430]

​@@antonhelsgaun a cut up piece of human leg, yes.

[@nonenone5387]

The food now is gross, just take a hard look at a cheeto.

[@amisanthrope247]

I'm not a vegetarian. But when you actually think about the consuming of the carcasses of others, it's actually quite gross itself & I can see why someone would make the decision not to eat it. Of course, a general scientific understanding of decomposition, bacteria, parasites, our digestive systems, etc, really helps to put it all into perspective. But I know that science, unfortunately, isn't the most popular of subjects.

[@BalgaBear]

There are so many liars in the world, I work for an internet company, and every day I'm disgusted that they claim to be "more reliable" yet every day I'm told not to fix things...because it's expensive Compared to the budget put towards providing high speed internet (24Mbps+) to Americans in rural areas, this is cheap.

[@sanjanewmoonlife]

That's why people need to read ingredients and where it was made .. I always read on every food package.

[@humble.genius]

Well, I think now is the most important time to learn how to raise your own cattle and chicken farm.

[@lisasimpson2415]

This is how you know the devil is in the details. How was a company able to acquire $1 billion then lose said money. And still able to continue trying to make a product. They could of giving that all (maybe even half of it) to regenerative agriculture farmers and seen a better profit.

[@funveeable]

Politics is the only way money ends up in the hands who squander it.

[@harbinger200]

That steel tank would need entire artificial cow with organs in that tank to be viable. Now that would be monstrosity.

[@arravYT]

Solution: Every method that is expensive must be advanced to the point where it would be affordable.

[@fz7788]

Thats…. A non solution

[@SchemingGoldberg]

Nature has already optimized animals to be cheap and efficient. Cows are affordable. Cows are efficient. Embrace the moo.

[@NowyChris]

The Age of Empires death sounds in the company losses section near the end were a nice touch lol.

[@abhijeet5667]

V

[@abhijeet5667]

V

[@NowyChris]

@@abhijeet5667 V has come to?

[@cinemapigeon4898]

Counter argument: It's super early in development, prototype and research stage, also economies of scale hasn't kicked in. Of course it's super expensive, of course it's probably highly energy intensive (at the moment), it's not ready for showtime, maybe it never will be, but being critical it in its current stage seems short sighted.

[@nooneofinterest234]

We'll have to keep researching, keep improving the existing technologies and methods and create better ones too, I don't like that people are more than ready to throw this in the dumpster and provide NO solution to the problems posed by intensive animal husbandry as well as intensive fishing. It's not ready today maybe it won't be ready in the next decades but I hope we get there one day.

[@qwertyqwertyqwerty4324]

It’s dystopian

[@uselessgarbagehandler]

you a damn fool@@qwertyqwertyqwerty4324

[@weissfox5857]

@@qwertyqwertyqwerty4324 "Dystopian" doesn't mean anything, it would be silly to show hostility to something that could be beneficial just because you don't like the vibes. Also i don't see how this is more dystopian than keeping billions of animals in horrendous, torturous, and unsanitary conditions for a few years before slaughtering them.

[@qwertyqwertyqwerty4324]

@@weissfox5857 imagine going to the supermarket and only thing available is fake lab grown meat. That’s peak horror science fi dystopian fiction the likes of Orwell. But it’s our reality now. Enjoy your fake meat everybody, bugs are coming soon.

[@iaindennis3321]

Regenerative farms with cows and sheep on the land is the answer - who’d have thought.

[@Not_another_guitar_channel]

But the billion dollar corporations can't make money off of local farmers!! How else would they exploit people??!!

[@iaindennis3321]

@@MT-kx2uc don’t give antibiotics and yes their meat is yummy.

[@Bilangumus]

Yeah right, and how do you that on Mars ?

[@jg5755]

@@Bilangumus Why would we actually need to do it on Mars?

[@snowwhite6344]

We shall visit this channel again in the coming years.

[@PhysioChrisToff]

Im so thankfull for this channel, great info, great content, great presentation!

[@Erik_Swiger]

Scientist: "Ima create meat out of nothing" Cow: "Hold my cud"

[@nogames8982]

If you think about all the products that we get from a cow or a chicken or a pig, etc. how would you replace all those things? Pet food, fertilizer, leather, all kinds of things.

[@southcoastinventors6583]

If you can scale up growing meat to that scale then you easily do the other stuff you mention.

[@nogames8982]

@@southcoastinventors6583 we are probably 100 years away from that happening, if it ever does. I hope people drop this idea.

[@southcoastinventors6583]

@@nogames8982 That what they said about PC that fit on your desk.

[@nogames8982]

@@southcoastinventors6583 but like he also said, that's not a biological process. It up the ante and makes things much harder. Plus, I really don't plan on ingesting any part of the PC that is on my desk.

[@neudson9131]

@@nogames8982 this idea is driven by ideology, so they will never ever stop