WHATS THE TOTAL START UP COST TO MELT METAL AT HOME - TONG & LIFTER DIY - COPPER BRASS MELT

[@bigstackD]

Be Sure to check the vids you have missed guys 😁😆Im sure you’ll find some you like👍🏻😉 kzbin.info

[@tylerblubaugh5549]

What do you do with your slag

[@igortrush4055]

@@jerrykingsley6703 True! too cheap for current market. Not sure 100% of furnace but did not see anything cheaper than 500+. Cheapest #12 crucible on ebay I did see for $35 +delivery.

[@isaac2990]

How long does it normally take for the different metals to melt down to liquid?

[@igortrush4055]

@@isaac2990 It depends on several things - how powerful burner, how well insulated furnace and what is the metal. Lead melts at ~330 C, aluminium at ~660 C, copper at ~1090 C.

[@bigstackD]

Jerry Kingsley - Hey guys on eBay I’ve seen the crucibles for that price and the Molds start at $4 heres a few links below . A #12 Crucible would definitely not fit in these devil forge furnaces the 10 kg furnace will only in my opinion really fit an #8(8kg )Crucible otherwise you wouldn’t get your lifter in to remove it safely And the biggest Crucible for the 4 kg furnace I would use is a #3 (3kg) for the same reason above. Molds can get quite expensive starting at $4 and going up to well over $ 100 although the most I’ve ever spent on a graphite mold is about $18. You always have the option of sand casting ingots for practically next to nothing And a lot of people make their aluminium ingots in muffin tins. I’ve also used empty food tins for small aluminium melts and just throw the tin out after 1 use when I’m finished. That’s not highly recommended but it does work. At the moment on eBay the 10kg Furnace is selling at $362US delivered and the 4kg Furnace is selling for $252US. Crucible clay/graphite rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F293091407978 Graphite Ingot mold rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132820509231 10kg Furnace rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253796844325 4kg Furnace rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F251870988045

[@paulm.7967]

Man, you are one of a handful of channels I exclusively never skip ads on. Your quiet processes, simple labelling, and just flat out zen production value has been the best thing since Primitive Technology for me. I love watching and taking notes or just unplugging and getting lost in the craft. This video just cements you in the #1 for me on YT. Education is key. Doing this for myself is now a goal. 🍻from the USA

[@bobfisterburger1085]

Is it wrong that in my mind, when I’m reading your captions, they have an Australian accent? You know what, never mind, I don’t care; it makes me happy. 😊

[@leaper1106]

We recently purchased our Devil Forge and today we made this equipment and it turned out amazing thanks to your video. Thank you so much for making this and all your other content. We are learning so much from your channel.

[@markfryer9880]

Nice work BigD. I appreciate the tutorial on how to make the tongs and lifters. Loved the suit display and the mask. Set up costs was a great idea for a video. Takes a lot of the mystery out of the hobby. Glad you showed the safety gear, very important as we are fragile little monkeys after all.

[@ego73]

Starter Kit video! Yes! ANYONE wanting to take up this hobby needed this video. Thanks, matey!

[@michaelpaul721]

These videos are an education about doing things the right way. Not rushing

[@didiermunier1239]

Je prends, malgré le côté répétitif de ces vidéos, toujours autant de plaisir à les regarder; je suis devenu Addict, et très content de l’être!😊 Didier( bonjour et merci de France!)

[@David-bc4rh]

Yesterday I tore apart four old rusty broken drum cymbal stands and I made the big lifter tongs for the 8kg crucible That just got delivered. I didn't have to cut any of the metal to size. It was a good day. Thanks for this video.

[@michaelhalpern7049]

Big Stack, you're the only one that I've watched that makes sense! Thanks for the profession lesson! You Rock, Bro!😎

[@bbruuse]

@ 9:51 My heart melted when little buddy barely moved. "Good Video" Thanks for the ideas...

[@TotalServicesShows10]

Thank you very much for showing how to get started. The materials used and the costs are beneficial for everyone to understand what is necessary for this hobby.

[@mefogus]

Fantastic video. When I came across your channel I was instantly hooked.

[@shaneyork300]

Of all vids to miss, I missed this one! Uhg!!! I even asked these questions on a comment a few weeks ago!! Well now I have detailed answers! When I get the time and being that it's summer here and dang hot, I'll be waiting until December or January and start getting to work. I've done the calculations and I should have everything for the cost of $70.00 U.S. or less! Because I was a street scrapper and will be again soon. I have picked up everything for free except the molds, crucible, tongs and plaster of paris to line the furnace!! So minimal cost. Just some work and time!! THEN FUN, FUN, FUN!!! Thank you very much for most of my education, but just so you know I have and will again read in detail the safety and procedures, so you know I'm NOT going in half cocked!!! Cheers, My Friend!! P.S. I'll send you pics of my 1st pours, probably next year!! Who knows maybe even do a vid or 2 on KZbin (But I doubt it)

[@PsyChoTicKs1990]

hey man did you endup doing it?

[@shaneyork300]

@@PsyChoTicKs1990 Not yet! This pandemic has changed alot of things for me. I'm shooting for next summer!! 😞

[@PsyChoTicKs1990]

@@shaneyork300 mind to pm me? Might have some question

[@recur9245]

I just ordered a 4kg devil furnace. Why is melting metal and flames so intriguing xD .should hopefully do me well

[@MicahT_]

If you had to recommend a devil forge, would you recommend the 4kg forge over the 10 kg forge?

[@SilverandCold1x]

I also ordered the 4kg furnace. It’s smaller than I expected, but it’s fine for starting out. Plan to post some videos around May.

[@supernova6177]

How is melting going?

[@rotaruciprian]

Thank you. This video was needed. Money doesn`t matter when you love this hobby.

[@kcsniperboy7148]

I'm gonna start casting soon. I have an extra burner wool and firebrick from when I built my forge. Ur videos have inspired me to finally do it. Thank u ya mad lad Aussie

[@sammorrow8420]

Watching metal melt is relaxing.

[@ArtByAdrock]

D! There’s always a video I like 👍🏻🍺 end of this year I’m coming to melt with ya 👍🏻 I’ll be supplying the outfits though for that one 😉 love it brotha!

[@bigstackD]

See ya then homes

[@jorojinnomad549]

BigStakd you rock, I'm all in now... been watchin you and fell in love with what you've shown us... now to melt some metal!!!!

[@mountaindewdude76]

This is such a great video! I'm in the USA and it's winter. Cold and snow everywhere but...I've been wanting to get into melting aluminum for about 4 years.....I think it's about time that I take that plunge. I've been shopping around and watching a bunch of videos. Your videos have been very educational and the results you get are impressive! Thanks for showing how you made your crucible tools!!!

[@jackschwink]

Just the video I was looking for! Got a bonus at work and wanted a new hobby for the summer. It’s really cool how easy and fairly inexpensive to get started!

[@bio5090]

Recently stumbled across this channel and I'm hooked! I appreciate you giving the cost in different currencies. It's a great touch. Needless to say, I'm a subscriber now!

[@bigstackD]

Well then welcome aboard matey!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻. Wen you get time be sure to check what ya missed as there’s some bloody good ones back there😁

[@bio5090]

@@bigstackD Already on it!

[@tjerrid9985]

So close now to my first melt! Made my furnace, made lifters and pouring tongs, got my DFC burner for a 10kg size foundry. All that's left is completing the refractory on the lid and making a mechanism for lifting and swinging lid away. Thanks Bigstackd for the great content. 👍👌

[@bunebustr]

This is awesome. Can't believe ive just now find this build. Thank you so much for the videos!!!

[@MrBear-ow7bw]

I must say this is the video that you really caught me BigstackD. I became a subscriber, a few weeks ago, after seeing a couple of ur videos and thinking, "that's cool must be expensive!", and ya proved it otherwise in this video...i was hooked! I decided to look into devil-forge and the 4kg forge seems to have caught my eye! Thank you for making these awesome videos, this is one happy subscriber from the USA! Btw, good luck on choosing the luckiest subscribers! (My attempt to be one of them!)

[@dmhawv]

Best helpful video out there. Thanks for answering our questions - sometimes even before we know we have them.

[@scottjarman8247]

I’ve watched you few a week or so now I have a small forge myself and I’ve been looming into getting a devils forge and doing the same as you for a little hobby ( with out the videos ) it’s very interesting

[@flyinhawaiian8398]

I always enjoy your videos. I have been harvesting copper and brass to start my own smelting project. Thanks for all the great vids to learn from. 👍

[@bryantc8502]

I've been needing some tongs and lifters. This'll be my next project. Thanks!

[@wyattjefferies3449]

Thanks for the start up. I've been interested in casting for awhile and now I see it's a budget I can afford. Great job!

[@bigstackD]

Be sure to hit me up on email for a discount on a furnace buddy it’s only 5% off but it’s still better than nothing I suppose👌🏻. Plus I can send you a heap of info for you to look into before you purchase. And if you just want a heap of info now hit me up on the email below and I’ll send it through and you can decide to purchase when you’re ready. [e-mail]

[@paulross660]

The DIY for building lifter and tongs is great.

[@BADD1ONE]

What I have found collecting tools and accessories for my forge. (I'm new to the melting game). Nobody sells decent tongs for large crucibles. I truly believe it's a liability issue. I'll make some for small crucibles but for big stuff I've made 5" steel cylinder crucibles. With bolts welded to the sides, and large nut on the bottom rear for pouring. (All case hardened). Cant go wrong. No fumbling. Hook, lift, hook, pour.

[@murlbailer3755]

Love watching you melt.

[@GokouZWAR]

That’s neat that you made the lifters and pourers I thought they were store bought tools. (Technically you bought the steel at a store but you get the idea.)

[@bigstackD]

Yes indeed my friend, I was sick of seeing how expensive they were to buy something that could be so simply made so hopefully my video will help out hundreds if not thousands of people to save themselves some money👌🏻😁

[@sheephearder05]

Thank you for this information. I have been wanting to cast metal for a long time and I was always scared off by the price. This has helped me realize that I can do it. Also FYI I love ingot. He is good boy

[@raymondrollins4032]

So far I'm about $400 in, but that includes extra crucibles and "reliable" tongs, the standard shape sold in most kits are uncomfortably dangerous with a heavy crucible, I'm 2 brass bars in and waiting for safer equipment to arrive before I resume, fortunately I'm a plumber, so I get all the good scrap for free. I'm more of a bismuth hound but have always been fascinated with molten metals. Good vids bro, they've helped reignite a long time intrest.

[@garrybeard2031]

A suit ha ha ha I’m not starting up. I just love to watch some one else do all the work. Great video thanks mate.👍🇬🇧🍺

[@jchoover111]

Still my favorite bigstackD video.

[@fredforb]

Hey, i just finished crafting my own lifter following your tutorial, thanks for sharing 😁

[@darkmerchant1]

Instructional material. Exceptional reference point!

[@tonymontana897]

Best channel on youtube ! Do you use a different crucible for the different metals ? How long does one typically last ? That insulation in the furnace, how long does that last and can you buy a new replacement one without having to buy a whole furnace ?

[@kevinroundsjr3102]

I started messing around with blade forging some years ago. You have definatly peaked my interest in the hobby..... now where to get scrap.

[@Colby2Cheese]

I've been thinking about how to get this problem myself. So far what I've come up with is save all my aluminum cans and guy at work drinks a monster energy drink a day so I get his too. Other than I look for abandoned tvs and take them apart. You can also find old tvs that no one wants in the free section of craigslist. Some other ways of getting scrap is to call company or companies, especially welders, often have a lot of "trash" metal that you might be able to get at. If you know any electricians, ask them to save the excess copper wire they normally throw away. When people put stuff out at the curb they don't want, you could keep a sharp eye out and pick up the good pieces. I was driving in a neighborhood and found a whole giant roll of copper wires coated in plastic that was just going to be thrown away. I hope at least one of these ideas is useful to you : ).

[@phillipmcguffie1183]

Perfect idea for tongs. Exactly what I am going to do. Thanks for the information.

[@bigstackD]

Yes no worries at all Phil, I was sick of seeing companies advertising simple lifters and tongs for ridiculous prices when you can just make your own supercheap and even put a couple of tweaks on them to make them perfect for the Crucible you’re using and save a shitload of money, hopefully they work out perfectly for you matey👌🏻

[@phillipmcguffie1183]

@@bigstackD I have been stuck on watching your videos for a little bit. I have made my own foundry now but will be purchasing the Devil Forge 10k here in the next few weeks. I am looking for ways to save money in doing this and it seems that all of your videos point me in the right direction. I will hold off on any questions for now but would love to have a conversation with you in the future for sure if you would be up for that. Thanks again for all the great content and it was a pleasure to have a response from the person that got me into doing this in the first place.

[@bigstackD]

No worries buddy just send any questions to my email and I can send you a heap of info about the furnaces and recommendations and a few links that might help, it’s best to communicate through email because I answer all emails but I can’t possibly see or answer the thousand comments I get every day👍🏻. [e-mail]

[@bigstackD]

Also I’ll set you up with a 5% discount link for a furnace or a burner

[@phillipmcguffie1183]

@@bigstackD awesome!

[@Mr.Neko013]

Me and a buddy of mine are wanting to make knives and I want to try casting, too. This helps me figure out what I need vs could use

[@dell2693]

My FB1SB furnace rocked up yesterday... just waiting for the rigidizer to dry and the melt is on! I'll have to whip up some of the tongs, they look like a bloody good set!

[@bigstackD]

Yeah there bloody brilliant and will save ya a heap of money just make sure there a good fit on the crucible and if you need to use a larger set put the extra grips on and that extra tab for safety on the bottom if possible. Safety first matey 😁👍🏻

[@dell2693]

@@bigstackD Cheers, will do. My current 6kg crucible is a bit big for the furnace so when my 4kg rocks up i'll build them to suit that! keep up the good work man

[@stevessaws3612]

oooh just the vid I needed to see. Was thinking something along the lines of this and you just made it way easier for me! 👍

[@aggie9075]

Just made myself a set with the help of your video. They came out great! Thanks for the instructions! You have some great knowledge

[@itsridley8700]

Thank you! The reason I started melting and will be making the pliers today!

[@Tory-nz8bl]

Here in 2020...doing my research I'll be melting soon just a few more items... thank you for the inspiration!!

[@MrLink129]

So... Tell us. How is the melting going!?

[@susanserwatka931]

I really enjoy watching you do your thing D. I'm impressed with how you make your own tools and such. I like a man that's handy. Especially one who has confidence in his self. You think of something that you want to do and then you make it happen. Nobody does it like BigStackD! You the man!

[@joshbutler6981]

Well watching your videos is defantly getting me in the mood to get my foundery up and running again cheers mate 👌

[@michaelhatfield5121]

Brilliant on the home made tongs. Been thinking of picking this up as a hobby at home. Love watching your videos.

[@sweetcarolina8740]

Hello, really have no words, other than..... Wow!! I have to keep up and learn.

[@malakhi08]

I want to get started!!!! Dos and donts? Where do I order? What price range 100-300 or 300-500? Where do I get specific items to start? What list of items I need specifically? I am wanting to find a passion and peace, and hobby that not only soothing but I can create my own thing. Blacksmith, forging, smelting is something I want to get into

[@nihtgengalastnamegoeshere7526]

Got my first crucible coming in the post soon, this video will be really useful when they arrive and I need to make tongs/lifter for it. Thanks very much! I'm glad to see you can just bolt them together, I'm TERRIBLE at welding and definitely wouldn't trust the end result if I'd had to weld it together...

[@aberhan]

Thanks for this. A crucible lifter and tongs is something I will have to make. Fortunately I have a welder. I will have convert the metric measurements to imperial but that’s okay.

[@doomsdaynightmare]

thanks for showing us how to make the tongs i'll be making my own set soon. thanks for all you've done with the videos and keep it going

[@nicholasb8799]

Just finished my pair of tongs! Thank you sir....

[@lorenzamucci]

Interesting, I was very curious about the startup costs; You tutorial for tong and lifter is perfect, simple and cool!!!

[@Lucas_Terry]

Maybe I should have checked your videos out before I comment on one your other videos lol new to your channel loving your content man keep it up 👌

[@captainjerk]

Awesome that you took the time to do the math for all this. The startup costs, the weigh-in, and even the tools! Sweet coins there buddy! I like the copper ones, but the brass ones turned out cool too! I'm off to watch the other vid! :D Thanx again D!

[@welshreaperscrapandcasting4029]

Thanks for this bigstackd not only for the startup cost but for a guide on how to make the tongs. Been wondering how I'm going to make them for a few days then saw this vid lol

[@OneLimitlessHuman]

Your videos are awesome man. Thank you so much for sharing. I truly enjoy them and look forwars to watching many more videos.

[@Thewulf56]

Nice, I have to make a new set of tongs for my bigger crucibles for the new furnace. Just havn't gotten around to it yet. Great video.

[@drixom9805]

Watched a vid earlier of a guy making his own electric forge. Worked pretty well and wouldnt be hard to convert to gas. Nice ibformative vid though.

[@kenc4104]

Awwww....cute pup that Ingot.

[@RoseKindred]

Thank you for the video, very informative. I always wanted to make my own metal pendants and chest making pieces (hinges, handles, etc) so a home forge would help.

[@markfryer9880]

Excellent idea to make marketable items for sale to gain experience and cash to help your hobby business.

[@madwilliamflint]

Been watching a while for sheer entertainment value. But...I bought a house a few months ago and got myself a furnace setup. Gonna go buy some steel and make tongs this weekend I think.

[@BPeterson730]

Great ideas Mate! Thanks again.

[@MariaSpooon]

You crack me up, hilarious! 😂 The screen video was hilarious too, I really hope you were having new screens anyway.😂😂

[@bigstackD]

Cheers I’m glad you liked it 😀. Yeah I have fun doing this , were you talking shower screens or window screens as I did both 🤔.

[@MariaSpooon]

The window screens when you were lock out.

[@bigstackD]

Yeah that was a good one😁here’s the shower screens one if ya interested 👌🏻 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4SkiXp_mJt4gck

[@richardholtz5412]

my mocha is indentical to ingot she wood of been 16yrs old just wanted to say that and thanks for your input on many things richard

[@jerryhuckabee5726]

I'm Playing catch up. I've learned a lot from watching your videos, has cut the learning curve a lot. I am about to build my own tools as the stuff I ordered from Amazon is crap and low and behold you have a video of make crucible tongs. Keep pouring! Oh, by the way, my wife is watching the videos with me and she loves your socks!!

[@dsmasynergy]

Cool vid. An inexpensive flux core welder (no gas needed) would be a great addition to your shop/lab.

[@jeremyg9377]

Your how to videos inspired me to get my own and start doing it. Good onya mate

[@forzapaq]

Many thanks for another excellent video. The tong build was really helpful. Looks like devil forge is going to be getting a few orders soon.....all thanks to you 👍👍👍👍

[@bigstackD]

Yeah I recon their doing pretty well from my vids , I’m happy to show their furnaces as they are bloody awesome 😁👍🏻

[@gs42816]

I so enjoy your videos, I wish I could afford your setup, I'd love to recycle metal waste into interesting objects, they're like mini works of art, superb.

[@winterknightwarden8543]

WOW! Such a difference in the shelves from this video to today's video 11/27/20!!! Your definitely on a roll to you 1 ton target!!!

[@bensenhenn7734]

Nice vid! My devil forge showed up today! Time to start making the tools and get melting!

[@chelsey-robertredmon4943]

Good information. Like how it shows safety as well. Starting my supply piles now

[@flavacreations]

Your the man you've helped me alot when it comes to forging

[@justinbutcher5930]

I been following your channel for 2 years now the stuff you do amazed me I'm starting up my foundry project soon and I'm going to get into metal casting myself if you like I have some big chunks of brass that you could have to melt down for your next video

[@justinbutcher5930]

How can I send it to you

[@bigstackD]

Matey if you’re in Australia I have a PO Box in my descriptions that people send things to but if you’re overseas it definitely wouldn’t be worth sending as they will charge you an absolute ridiculous amount of money to send it .

[@justinbutcher5930]

Thanks bigstackd i appreciate it I'll continue to watch your videos every week there pretty cool I have electric motors I tore apart and I learned a faster way to remove the coil from the stators by watching your videos

[@noctambulomissthesun3858]

video from 2019 ... i just came from work I know its not Friday but I want a beer with my buddy bigstackD ...cheers

[@frankus54]

Nice work and great production. Next stop, miniature home cast bronze Napoleonic cannons

[@richg.8092]

Thanks for the video and the info about the costs. I will be doing this also in the near future.

[@jallsbrook69]

I'm so glad I found this video... I have been thinking about a set

[@absolutemeltdown2863]

Cheers BigStackD, I'll get some tools made up ASAP.

[@shanekral2650]

I love your videos. This one was definitely on the want list. Because I want to melt some metal!

[@primodragoneitaliano]

Thanks for the price breakdown and the tutorial for the lifters :D I was curious about costs and all and it answered everything I was wondering about :D

[@markdukeshire4812]

this is an amazing instructional vid! so basic and straight forward. Thanks!

[@mindofmadness5593]

Nice design on the Tongs and lifters. Because I lack certain things such as Intelligence, ability and Tools I've had to go a slightly different rout. I cut the habdkes [[push bars]] from two lawn mowers in half. Heated them in an old furenace I converted into a Blacksmithy and used pliers to bend them Straightish then beat them mostly flat with a Sledgehammer. They already have the holes precut where I need them. Using the steel rim off of a garden wagon to form the curved parts then bolting together. Ugly but matches my face. :D

[@kevinwhite4101]

Lol great timing I am in the mood to melt a 55 gallion barrel of aluminum cans.. All crushed and clean. Just need the Furness. Got rest of tool already

[@at501at9]

Thanks for the heads up on start up costs and how to make my own tools

[@aklambo7821]

it's awesome seeing what you do with all of those different metals. It makes recycling them look really fun. Also was that a Chains mask (from Payday) i saw under that heat suit?

[@bigstackD]

Yes matey a payday mask👍🏻😁

[@jenniferbrewer5370]

Not quite as pricey as I'd feared; I could actually come up with that kind of money to get started. Thank you for this.

[@markfryer9880]

Just do it in incremental steps as your budget will allow you to while you study up and it will all come together very nicely.

[@oregonlife2323]

Another good one! NO MORE SKIPPING ADs!!!!!

[@MixMania1]

Thanks, that helped me a lot! I see always your Videos 👍

[@V8HiluxZX6R]

Very informative & useful. I'm currently compiling a scrap pile for when I move next year and will look to start doing my own forging. This will be immensely useful #Forging2020

[@nonjb3811]

Very impresive! Can you calculate in second what could be done daily (10h, easy tempo ), rough capacity to melt aluminium, how many kilos and fuel needed? thanks...

[@johnhartman3149]

Very cool and informative video! Thanks brother!

[@bigstackD]

No worries buddy