Lotus Elise S2: Small Upgrades To Optimise Handling And Performance | Wheeler Dealers

[@mph20000]

Gotta love how Edd China has been gone for years, yet Wheeler Dealers still uses footage of him to sell the show.

[@wallyr.7854]

Edd was, is and will always be the best mechanic out all the mechanics WD has used since 👍🏻

[@anthonymillar6183]

Edd was brilliant on camera the audience felt as he was talking to them

[@Gruxxan]

wheeler dealers having to fall back to edd chyna because the new guy doesnt cut it. show went downhill since edd left.

[@benday8584]

True

[@mrperson9482]

How do you feel about elvis?

[@ratcat7668]

I bought my second Elise dirt cheap because I knew the guy from The Aussie Elise website. New Crate engine at 50K with a modified cam and redone head gasket. Carbon fibre interior, Quick release racing steering wheel, Quantum one Coil overs, New stainless exhaust toe link upgrade etc etc. also being very dry there isnt a scrap of rust or corrosion anywhere.

[@jackdub7740]

A towering presence that brought a comforting warmth to the shop. the new cop guy is ok at best, but Edd, you are sorely missed on wednesday nights brother. hope your knuckles are staying busted my friend

[@SmashCatRandom]

I had a 2008 S2 Supercharged - I modified it a lot for trackday use, suspension, brakes, full 2bular exhaust, induction, etc. It was the most fun car I ever owned, but completely impractical as my only vehicle at the time. I've had cars with much more power since then, but still not as much fun!

[@jamesbarbour327]

This man can fix a rainy day!

[@stevenunez]

While I definitely feel Ed did an excellent job, the new guy isn't bad....we all just like Ed because he was the original mechanic. I wish them all great success.

[@neilbateman4327]

does anyone know who did the flowing and porting on the cylinder head please ?

[@neetones]

The underside of every car in the UK looks like it spent decades in a salty swamp.

[@simonlloyd7557]

Mate, living here is a nightmare if you like working on your own car. i spend 80% of my time undoing 20% of the fasteners..Heat, hammering, grinding, penetrating oils, cutting, more heat, more heat and impact guns..

[@mikeisgonz0]

Liberal use of antiseize is a great preventative measure

[@D13-r9w]

HAving spent most of my life in the UK, now I'm in Australia I'm constantly amazed that 30 year old cars have no rust here

[@Dave.S.TT600]

@@simonlloyd7557 here in adelaide , australia...i have a 20 year old car ..and the underside and suspension etc looks 6 months old very good here for that

[@bobmcl2406]

Canada has left the chat.... 😆

[@RayNL2009]

Can you explain to me how mike can drive a 1.12 on silverstone with an Elise, while max verstappen needs 1.27 in an F1?....shorter track?

[@yabasta13]

Bring edd back

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

How will they do that? HE QUIT!

[@chrisr4815]

Ed was a hack.

[@oturgator]

Kick Mike out, Ed and the new guy will make a great restoration series! Nobody needs an accountant spoiling the fun!

[@kasperkjrsgaard1447]

@@oturgator now there’s a plan. 🤔👌

[@mrrolandlawrence]

where is the part 2 of this? :O

[@kenansen3273]

Does Eddy working in programme now? We love you on tv's channel with cars.

[@joes9954]

It's just not been the same without Edd and moving the show to CA full time.

[@GrossmeisterB6]

That lifting on the rear suspension pickup points isn't correct, and you CAN re-use the head bolts (but only the newer ones after meausuring actual length).

[@mariondinglasan4454]

Love this show really

[@betacam235]

It's not accurate to say that the stretch bolts that hold the engine together can only be used once. The Rover engineers who built and developed it used them up to 18 times. You need to check the length is as original before re-using them, if they are overlength they have been stretched out of tolerance and can't be used. I've re-used them on a high compression 220bhp 1.8 litre K series race engine with zero problems.

[@bluedunn374]

bring back Ed

[@chrisr4815]

Ed was a hack.

[@antonoudenhoven7573]

Nice to see all the new parts going on the car. The only thing i dont like its bolted on a pile of rust lol. Maybe better to adrs that also

[@david198122]

I Miss you Edd.

[@daveeddy2402]

What if you added rifleling to the intakes?

[@allamar9083]

Need CC hearing problems. Thanks.

[@muckman5509]

wait, was that shock installed upside-down lol ?

[@martinosmorlandez3549]

That was pretty cool. The show became unwatchable when this guy left.

[@flubberlane8437]

Looks like Lotus does have a suv called the Electre. 😀

[@danieldravot341]

A follow-up, with the head re-fitted, would’ve been appropriate. As this ends we’ve got a car with black accents, a presumably properly set-up suspension, and no source of power. Personally I think black tires on black wheels are boring.

[@bobmcl2406]

Fully agree, black wheels are an ugly fad. At least the car isn't black as well. That is the worst possible look.

[@sbsb4995]

Ed is back????

[@RickBruinsma]

Just saw the car for sale, in The Netherlands.

[@sebastianh-man1879]

Buy it

[@JosephHowes2003]

I just watched this whole episode on the Motor Trend app. I don't get why they only expected a Max of £14k after getting fixed if they were going for around £40k on the website that he was watching in the beginning. They never seem to make enough on this show to justify their time.

[@backroadsdriven]

Your numbers for the suspension set up are going to be off without the engine parts installed all the weight needs to be in the car where it’s going to be including the weight of the driver.

[@smokeyrobinson4918]

Yep my thoughts too...

[@WRP_2003]

9:15 I am after a metal finish filler cap for my corsa c!!!!!!!!!

[@JudiantoTjahjoNugroho]

Where is Edd China?

[@pietrocaccamo3642]

Sei bravissimo

[@charlesyoung9980]

The Lotus Elise is the perfect performance car for midgets.

[@GadgetMart]

I love them But a 6’3” not for me thanks

[@craigykart]

I'm 6'1" and fit fine in mine with a helmet on. There are however plenty of people who have one go at getting into one and then say they are awful.

[@GadgetMart]

@@craigykart I could steer with my knees.

[@wimspreeuwenberg2516]

Hammond

[@Joescuderia]

LOL

[@stephengamble9388]

When I first saw this I thought it was my car. Had to look twice at the reg.

[@glm1064]

The car has been exported over to Holland and is currently for sale: www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-s/lotus/m1629884292-kerstaanbieding-wheeler-dealers-lotus-elise-s2-rhd-2002.html?previousPage=lr

[@stephengamble9388]

@@glm1064 Mine registered a few cars before. Still all original. but for longtail hardtop.

[@donstewart2059]

china you did a good job doing that tv show I think you would need a small break from work all time

[@milesgreen9705]

No it's Elvis who did Trading Up with Mike.

[@mauroc.carraro5656]

You are the best. Sorry no have italian version.

[@salcar5976]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@naturalstatepoolandspallc338]

can you LS swap them? lol

[@petersonoliveira8496]

Boa tarde Nice amén vai trabalharam bom

[@BossHoggJD]

LESS IS MORE

[@donaldhollums3278]

Since Edd left WD I have watched 5 episodes. Ant Antstead seemed better paired with Philip Glenister in “For the Love of Cars”. Brewer is too much of a Yaboo anymore!

[@caribman10]

Got a better idea: let's see you "engineer" an Elise so that you can actually drive it, regularly, every day for a month. Truly, I dare you.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

I did for 8 months.

[@caribman10]

@@BlatentlyFakeName ..and then....? Because my American sports car is one I just get in and drive, so I really admire guys like you who will "curry" a car they love that much. Me? I just want to drive mine.

[@classicrepairsandrestorati8754]

@@caribman10 "American SPORTSCAR!" There is no such thing. OK if you want something comfortable, boring and handles like one of your Florida swamp boat things.

[@fbandito]

Shaking the Edd money tree.

[@alexshaw6354]

Bring back Edd, keep Ant.

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

And how will they do that genius? THEY BOTH QUIT!

[@alexshaw6354]

@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt nothing is permanent

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

@@alexshaw6354 Righto. So in Edd's interview where he says he will never do WD again your saying he's a liar?

[@alexshaw6354]

You take this too seriously DH get a life.

[@alexshaw6354]

Nobody likes a keyboard warrior

[@Zero.Requiem]

Keeping uploading edd videos? 😒 Why is there no one watching the new series? The man already move on and is not part of wd dont make money of him. Do it with brewer he loves money anyways

[@camerond8176]

Removing Bilstein Shocks and putting on cheap coilovers.................I agree adjustability is nice, but NOT at the expense of quality handling. Bilstein has spent millions if not billions in developing suspensions over the decades.

[@Blackdawn80]

This car needs a Honda K20

[@bigsohc]

SR20

[@Blackdawn80]

@@bigsohc the K20 already has more support for Lotus. Also the K series has so much aftermarket support.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Most Elises with Honda engines started with Rover engines and they blew up (common issue). Most don't swap the Toyota engines.

[@simonlloyd7557]

Edd is an amazing mechanic but awful at styling and colour choices.

[@kevinroberts8441]

modded cars are never top end just maintained

[@SB-tp3yw]

shouldn’t really be using edds face should you, wheeler dealers...

[@krushalpatel7935]

Using cheap tyres, After all that :(

[@q4fire]

I miss Ed. Not a fan of Ant.

[@matrixmirage2148]

Let's see what its letters say 🤔 "LOTUS ELISE ROADSTER" => "A LOOTER'S LUST & DESIRE"

[@rustynut9uk897]

Drag flat floor. Go awayay

[@cupidstunt22]

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious

[@KCDrives]

Handling....Upgrades.....On a.... Lotus?

[@tycinis]

yep ! i use to have the bilstein on my '04 exige ans the change for Quantum coil over transform m the car.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

There are no handling upgrades for an Elise really. Either you set it up for track or for road.

[@ianturner6062]

What makes Ed think he can set up a Lotus *better* than either Roger of Matt Becker (father and son) , the two men who were responsible for far the handling of this magnificent car? That's like me deciding I am better managing a football club than..... whomever! So good was Matt that, after his father retired Matt was poached by Astons for a sizeable sum and he's now the head of Engineering! Many would happily say that those two are/were the best chassis set-up men in the country, if not, the world! Sorry Ed, you're a nice guy but..... I think I'll leave my Elise as Matt and Roger left it..... they knew more than you do, Ed!

[@VeliRajasaar]

He didn't think he's setting it up better... He used fresh Lotus suspension and did corner weighting which is a basic part of suspension setup also done in the factory. I think you have misunderstood the point of modifications, though - we don't modify our cars because we think we're better than the ones who designed it. A street car is a collection of compromises - you identify what compromises stand in the way of your build and address them.

[@proituk]

@@VeliRajasaar Veli..... You undercut your own point at the end. Clearly, your comment about 'upgrade' DOES imply he is making it better than the Beckers managed..... and that is laughable! Damn it, those of us who know, damned nigh WORSHIP the Beckers!!!

[@VeliRajasaar]

@@proituk The second half of my comment was general, not addressed to what was done in the video :) The chassis and suspension of the Elise are an engineer's dream, but you can always suit it for your direction better, evident also from the different suspension packages the factory offered. Also, companies like Öhlins and Nitron can make better shocks than the units offered by the Lotus factory, both for track and comfort. Saying otherwise is blinding yourself, time has moved on a lot. So again, the car is not perfect for everything from the factory, every aspect of a production vehicle is a compromise of budget, safety and regulations.

[@proituk]

@@VeliRajasaar Again, you miss the point. Yes, the Beckers set the cars up to fit a budget. Yes there ARE better shockers available....... BUT....... the car has been optimised around in the original spec shocks and springs. Roger amd Matt would not have JUST bought a more expensive set of shockers and just stuck them on. They would have tested them, refined the adjustable settings after repeated be substantial checks and have recalibrated the REST of the handling package. Do you suggest that Ed tested the initial settings of the shocks, drove 50 miles, changed the 'rates', tested for ANOTHER 50 miles, changed the rates.... retesed, changed the camber, retested, changed the tyre pressures, retested......... and so on? No, like everyone else who thinks they know better than the Beckers, the bought them, guessed the rates and settings and merely hoped they are better! Put brutalky, only IDIOTS would change the shocks/springs on race car and expect it to lap quicker WITHOUT structured program of tests! That's exactly what Ed did NOT do. And that is rxactly what the rest of the 'i know better than the Beckers' brigade do. They buy raised springrates, never check the bound/rebound rates suit this chassis...., stick them on, and POSE to be their friends that 'I fitted seperate reservoir Ohlins for a VAST price...... and it goes MUCH better'. Without a structured series of tests, my experience is that, purely through the laws of entropy, you new shock/spring set up will be WORSE!

[@VeliRajasaar]

@@proituk... Ed literally installed a factory set of shocks. Did you watch the video? The higher end shock absorber producers like Öhlins valve their shocks based on the actual car. They simulate, run shock dynos, test on track, adjust and then produce a product tailored specifically for your use. Additionally, alignment and tire pressures have nothing to do with shock valving design. You adjust the alignment and pressures based on the tire you pick, based on pyrometer measurement to confirm the compound heats up equally on all three tire zones. But none of the above is relevant for our discussion because you missed a crucial point in the video, which caused your rant. No need, these were Lotus original shocks from a test car with suitable valving and spring rates.

[@gerardoguzman6488]

Please, español.