When a 'Relationship with God' Turns Unhealthy

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Kristi Burke

Kristi Burke

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@user-gq7io5ij4j
@user-gq7io5ij4j Ай бұрын
When Kristi starts talking about how dirty a human being is and how undeserving of love s/he is, but that God will give you that love anyway even though you don't deserve it... I felt that one. It's so sad that Christianity destroys people's self-worth.
@dabbler1166
@dabbler1166 Ай бұрын
Think this over. What Kristi is against here (and so am I)...this is called: CALVINISM. People attack that, and think they are attacking or disproving Christianity. But iy may This very well be a "Straw Man". Because: It may not be REAL Christianity at all (and almost no one realizes this. Your church will very likely preach Calvinism and simply not tell you! Oh, if you specifically ask them: does this Church believe in Calvinism?...they may be shocked that YOU know, and asked) But-- Calvinism comes from John Calvin, who in his writings says he is OK with his own kids going to Hell if it were for God's Glory. He's the guy that believes you are a wretched sinner, worthy of Hell and therefore needing a savior and saved by the mercy and Grace of God. But-- Calvin got ALOT of his ideas from AUGUSTINE (approx.400AD) and Augustine himself, admits that in his own time, many many people DISagreed with him. So....what did true Christians believe BEFORE Augustine? Very good question. But people attack Calvinism, which may not be "the real deal" and think they've disproven Christianity. Learn about Pelagius. He may not 100% right, but i think he makes far more sense than Calvin. But the Catholics considered Pelagius a "heretic". Dont let others decide for you. READ.
@user-gq7io5ij4j
@user-gq7io5ij4j Ай бұрын
@@dabbler1166 Will read Pelagius. 👍
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596 Ай бұрын
you are worshiping a false god, a god who doesn't exist. You believe that a relationship with God will bring you only joy and peace. And that's true but with that comes a huge compromise with God. We as sinners are disgusting an incompatible with the nature of God. But even so He loves every people and try to approach you in many ways, but if you prefer to make a false God that fits your thoughts on how god should be, that my friend is not god but an empty idol you made. The one living and true God is merciful, but also punishes bad behaviors, he is also a consuming fire. And once you are sanctified and the Holy Spirit comes to you, things will not go that easy, problems, temptations and tests will follow more that ever, but if you trust in God over everything you will succeed, God will reward you if you follow His will, if not, He will punish you. You must deny yourself in order to met the one true God, and our savior Jesus. To accept Jesus is just the beginning of the journey and many of you think that only believing is enough, for demons also believe in Jesus but they are not willing to follow Him, and therefore they are doomed.
@user-gq7io5ij4j
@user-gq7io5ij4j Ай бұрын
@@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596 We are not disgusting. Most of us are wonderful people who make mistakes sometimes. I think that's a much healthier way to look at oneself. In what way does God punish people?
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596 Ай бұрын
@@user-gq7io5ij4j you are not disgusting by yourself, the thing that disgust God is sin. But all of us had sinned before, therefore God in incompatible with us. We must be cleaned to be in His presence, and you can't clean yourself, the one who changes your hearth is the Holy Spirit. But to let the Holy Spirit work in you, He waits for you to let Him do it. If you close your hearth to the Holy Spirit, He won't change you. Read the Bible, the Old Testament so you can know HOW God punishes people. Spoiler alert: is not funny. And remember that God doesn't change. The one God who created the universe is the one we worship. And the one we fear.
@musicol7489
@musicol7489 Ай бұрын
The thing that finally turned me away from Christianity was the realisation it was a system of ‘love me, OR ELSE.’
@CaptainCanuck68
@CaptainCanuck68 Ай бұрын
@@musicol7489 💯
@S.A.T.NL.000
@S.A.T.NL.000 6 күн бұрын
You hate choice or the consequences or Gods right and almighty power? Or is it parable of Mister Potter and lady Clay?
@musicol7489
@musicol7489 4 күн бұрын
@S.A.T.NL.000 Actually, I love choice and free will. But if that choice and will comes with a menacing threat, then it’s not free, is it? It’s merely enforced adherence under threat of torture. Is your god so psychopathic and desperate for love?
@CorbinB-Rax
@CorbinB-Rax Күн бұрын
​@S.A.T.NL.000 It isn't a choice. It's coercive threat and then actual violence. Torture. Forever. Consequence? For what? For sin. Who set up those rules and then FORCED me into a scenario where I HAVE to play by those rules? A contract I never agreed to be a part of. Ripped out of perfect peace and no danger. Thrown into a life of constant danger, by the guy who says he'll save me from the predicament he put me in. So I'm supposed to be thankful. It is preposterous on its face and to its core.
@smadaf
@smadaf 2 ай бұрын
"For God so loved the world that He drowned it." Thank you. I'm gonna use that.
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 2 ай бұрын
Mondays lol
@deksper
@deksper 2 ай бұрын
Clap clap (slow), for the unrepentant Christ rejector.
@unclerhombus
@unclerhombus 2 ай бұрын
If God’s goal was just to kill everyone, why did he save one family?
@deksper
@deksper 2 ай бұрын
@@unclerhombus You know the saying in regard to assumptions, don't you?
@user1522p
@user1522p 2 ай бұрын
@@unclerhombus I guess he missed.
@wilberwhateley7569
@wilberwhateley7569 2 ай бұрын
This is what’s called rebranding - “it’s not a religion, it’s a relationship” is the Christian equivalent of “it’s not a cookie, it’s fruit and cake.” The whole rebranding campaign was developed to compensate for the fact that we are living in a society that’s becoming increasingly secular as time goes by and religion becomes less and less relevant: they want to shed the negative imagery or religion that exists in the minds of many without changing their substance.
@lemsip207
@lemsip207 2 ай бұрын
I was told this nonsense by someone trying to convert. I didn't have a comeback to that, but I did avoid her for years.
@DeJaVuCa
@DeJaVuCa 2 ай бұрын
It's called "mind control- manifestation"- cause & effect. Not dismissing our own intuition & choices or Consequences to a jebus named god.
@tangerinetangerine4400
@tangerinetangerine4400 2 ай бұрын
Also they want to elevate themselves and their religion over all other religions claiming it's something else. It's dishonest and annoying.
@chemtrooper1
@chemtrooper1 2 ай бұрын
Did not Jesus curse the Fig Newton tree?
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f 2 ай бұрын
@@lemsip207 They have stolen and appropriated Stoic ideals and values of Zeno, Marcus Aurelius, John Locke . . . and Thomas Jefferson's Bible.
@deconry
@deconry 2 ай бұрын
KRISTI....what you are saying is spot on. I an an 81 year old ex Christian and ex deacon. I have studied the Bible, attended seminary classes, and lead people to Christ. Today, the church and the professional clergy are losing significant numbers and educators like you, Jim Palner, Richard Dawkins and the Clergy Project are helping all of us rethink and reexamine what we have been taught....all in the mission of growing up and becoming better more realistic people. 😘
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your willingness to take another look at something you were so invested in. Gives me a sense of possibility for the human race.
@deconry
@deconry 2 ай бұрын
@@sundayoliver3147 It did not come without cost. We all need to continue to question, learn, and evolve.....while practicing kindness and the golden rule. 🙂
@racerx4152
@racerx4152 2 ай бұрын
your deceived just like the sick woman in the video. a warped view of the bible.
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 2 ай бұрын
​@@deconrywhat age did you deconvert? They will just say didn't have holy spirit
@njhoepner
@njhoepner 2 ай бұрын
Similar...I'm 60, former deacon (deacon in charge of evangelism, no less!), bible study leader, Sunday school teacher, evangelical from age 29 to 55, now an atheist. Anyone meeting me then would have sworn I was filled with the spirit...of course now they'd insist I never had it...just more evidence that it's make believe.
@EnglishMike
@EnglishMike 2 ай бұрын
After a decade of imploring God for any sign, no matter small, that he was with me, it was especially galling to see pastors and other Christians casually talking about how God had spoken to them that morning, or how he had answered their prayer about some silly little trivial matter in their otherwise comfortable lives -- like their stalling car starting at the first attempt after praying. There are Christians who even relate the "conversations" they have with God on a daily basis. Do they never think of the millions of people who suffer incredible hardships and suffering without ever having a sniff of assistance or comfort despite their desperate prayers and pleas for help? Of course they don't, because it would burst the tiny little bubble they live in.
@nomopayn
@nomopayn 2 ай бұрын
And must we forget Jesus and God love sports.. How many times do we hear an athlete in a postgame interview giving praise to Jesus or to God for having a good game
@micahjoelgeimer4215
@micahjoelgeimer4215 2 ай бұрын
​@@nomopaynthis. A thousand times
@hyperteleXii
@hyperteleXii 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha tell me you've been denied the holy spirit for your sins, without telling me. I see signs all the time.
@theresemalmberg955
@theresemalmberg955 2 ай бұрын
I brought this up at Bible Study where we were focusing on prayer. The answer I got in regards to finding lost car keys or a parking place was that maybe God answered this prayer because it wasn't trivial, that maybe the person looking for their car keys had some real important place they had to go. One person even said, well, I know this is probably going to come out badly, but maybe the people in other countries who don't have it as good as we do are so used to going without that it really isn't as big a deal to them as it would be for us. So God may be answering their prayers differently than how we would answer them. No, that didn't really come out well . . .
@joshridinger3407
@joshridinger3407 2 ай бұрын
​@@hyperteleXiiyou should get your schizophrenia checked out
@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS
@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS 2 ай бұрын
As a recent deconvert, they’re not wrong. Christianity is an unhealthy relationship with a god we would consider abusive if he were human.
@nate666
@nate666 2 ай бұрын
Jesus spoke of rest. When you get to heaven you probably won't even be around God or Jesus that much. You will probably just be resting in your own place enjoying life. 😂
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f 2 ай бұрын
@@nate666 No, you NEED to take initiative . . . *Matthew 9:2* "Jesus stepped into a boat, crossed over and came to his own town. Some men brought to him a paralyzed man, lying on a mat. When Jesus _saw_ their FAITH, he said to the man, 'Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.'” *Mark 2:3-5* "Some men came, bringing a paralyzed man, carried by four of them. Since they could not get him to Jesus because of the crowd, they made an opening in the roof above Jesus by digging through it and then lowered the mat the man was lying on. When Jesus *saw* their FAITH, he said to the paralyzed man, “'Son, your sins are _forgiven.'”_
@RaphaelTheAltarBoy
@RaphaelTheAltarBoy 2 ай бұрын
@@nate666 No, actually he wants you to worship him for eternity.
@BrianP-bh1vo
@BrianP-bh1vo 2 ай бұрын
That's because you don't know God.
@kaylandry3142
@kaylandry3142 2 ай бұрын
​@@BrianP-bh1vobible god is sadistic af. Growing up i always felt like god was my p*mp. Because girls were created to be slaves for men. As a little girl bible god literally gave me a stomach ache & made me cry.
@jessewhite2879
@jessewhite2879 2 ай бұрын
Christianity to me seems like the biggest case of Stockholm Syndrome i`ve ever encountered imo
@areuaware6842
@areuaware6842 2 ай бұрын
All the filthy Abrahamic religions are the same.
@recoverfromreligion
@recoverfromreligion 2 ай бұрын
I just made a video about Stockholm Syndrome and religion. Check it out.
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps the 3rd, after _Submission_ and _Sanatanism._
@areuaware6842
@areuaware6842 2 ай бұрын
@@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f , Abrahamism is Satanism.
@nate666
@nate666 2 ай бұрын
If you hate slavery why are you still with us? You are a slave to your own body and all it demands of you everyday. You are a slave to supporting your lifestyle and community and all they demand of you. With or without God you are a slave 😂
@ooblytoff
@ooblytoff 8 күн бұрын
I am a 66yr old male in the UK. Just yesterday I had enough of God, needed help, it had been building up for the last couple of years. I reached out to the 'freedom from religion foundation' who put me in touch with 'recovering from religion'. I felt sick in my head with the whole God thing. I've read the bible cover to cover, I've tried and tried and tried, prayed and prayed and prayed regularly gone to church etc etc etc etc etc (c'mon, you know it all!!!). I really cannot thank Kristi Burke enough for this video. It is everything I've been stewing on for a few years. I actually feel I may have got out just ahead of feeling damaged. I can at least live out my retirement with personal freedom, so looking forward to that. Thank you Kristi from my real human heart.
@mayalaurenboyd
@mayalaurenboyd 2 ай бұрын
Kristi, I wanted to comment on your appearance, and I know that doesn’t say much because people can put on a mask and a show, but ever since you coming back and saying you’ve gone to therapy and have gotten diagnosed, I see the happiness and clarity in your eyes and that’s just inspiring me to keep going with my own deconstruction and even go back to therapy myself. Thank you for showing up!!
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for noticing! I always feel and look my best when I'm taking good care of myself. Something the church didn't really encourage us to do. It's a practice, and it always makes a difference ❤️ keep on your path, and be really kind to yourself! Happy to have you here
@mayalaurenboyd
@mayalaurenboyd 2 ай бұрын
@@jezebelvibes that is SO true. We put others ahead of our own physical and mental health in the church and that’s definitely something I’m unlearning.
@greg-op2jh
@greg-op2jh 2 ай бұрын
That was absolutely beautiful ❤️ both of you are beautiful!
@x00p3
@x00p3 2 ай бұрын
@@Giwii-ojimin What a load of Baloney! You're deluded. lol
@racerx4152
@racerx4152 2 ай бұрын
so now you have nothing to believe in. who will you go to in your emptiness? what will you do when one of your loved one's pass way? your completely trapped. your just waiting to die. get a bible and read it for yourself, and ignore this sick women who is leading everyone astray.
@CaptainCanuck68
@CaptainCanuck68 2 ай бұрын
How can you have a relationship with someone you've never actually met?
@CaptainCanuck68
@CaptainCanuck68 2 ай бұрын
The relationship is entirely one sided.
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Very good question!
@man-yp1gb
@man-yp1gb 2 ай бұрын
Well said
@Childfree334
@Childfree334 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I'm having a relationship in my head to some God figure I can't see, hear, touch, or in any way know if it's real. I feel like such a fool that I believed it for even a second.
@dagg310
@dagg310 2 ай бұрын
if u have a relationship with aliens, ur mentally ill if u have a relationship with god, ur religious
@jlm5254
@jlm5254 2 ай бұрын
As a former Christian I can affirm that I was in a relationship with Jesus. Partly because I didn’t know any better, didn’t have anyone better, and because Jesus’ dad scared the shit out of me with his cruelty. And as a former Christian I can assert that Christianity is not a relationship; it’s a delusion.
@davidclark573
@davidclark573 2 ай бұрын
You were in a relationship with Jesus because your parents were christians, if your parents were Muslim you would not have a relationship with Jesus.
@26beegee
@26beegee 2 ай бұрын
How does a relationship with an invisible being actually work? I need feedback from those I have a relationship with. I need to see them, give them a hug, know they hear what I say, etc. I cried out to God for any kind of sign until I was about 60. Here I am 11 years later and I still haven’t heard from God. Obviously, he isn’t real.
@SiyasamuMavanyisi-bz4jv
@SiyasamuMavanyisi-bz4jv 2 ай бұрын
Correction just because you have parents who are Christians does not automatically mean you will be one and have relationship with GOD You have to make that decision on your own and not anyone else​@@davidclark573
@HenrySimmons1225
@HenrySimmons1225 2 ай бұрын
What's cruel about God?
@racerx4152
@racerx4152 2 ай бұрын
so you think that god should never punish sin? that he should just let everything go to hell? look at how much this world has gone to hell, and that's because they ignore god. by destroying wicked people, god incentivise's the rest of us to stop being evil. non christian authorities do this all the time. are they cruel? human beings are never satisfied with the way god does things, and their not happy with the way secular authorities do things. that's why we have prisons. this proves that people are evil. christianity is not a delusion, you just love your sin too much too repent. there's tons of evidence for christianity. read " evidense that demands a verdict" josh mcdowell, and books by lee strobel.
@stonesnbones9891
@stonesnbones9891 2 ай бұрын
There are 100s KZbin apologetic channels for every single religion and cult under the sun. Every single one of them declares that their faith, and theirs alone, are a relationship and not a religion. Yet, when you get into the faith, all these rules show up . The God or Gods that you have this "relationship" with is suddenly interested in what I wear, what I eat, what I think, what I do, and who I sleep with. No religion is a relationship. It is all about controlling behavior.
@theboombody
@theboombody 2 ай бұрын
I'm a Christian, not a Hindu, but the mathematical work of Ramanujan and his claim that his Hindu god told him to write that stuff down is difficult to completely ignore. It's pretty astounding and the work is unbelievable quality.
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 2 ай бұрын
I mean, what you're describing sounds like a relationship to me. A toxic one with an abusive partner that needs to be cut out of your life as soon as possible. Far too many people convince themselves, or are convinced by others, that that level of scrutiny over everything you do and everywhere you go is in any way normal or expected or part of how a relationship _should_ be, but WOW is it not. It is, as you say, all about controlling behavior. And people like that do not like to be controlled in turn. There is no reciprocation, only you bending to their every whim. The most you'll get in return is them _saying_ they love you, but none of their actions will reflect that in the least. And somehow, with no intent on my part, my description still works surprisingly well to describe what the average churchgoer is taught to expect from their God. I've heard dozens of stories at this point from people who spent years out of their lives living in terror that if the wrong thought accidentally popped into their head, they would doom themselves to an eternity of suffering. By the very God they would claim loves them. Even the act of making them think that's a possibility is cruel. But stating unequivocably that he intends to go through with it is several orders of magnitude worse. By every metric you can come up with, the God of the Bible manages to be more horrible and cause more harm than even the most morally bankrupt of humans. He is the most abusive husband, the most abusive parent, the most cruel king, the list goes on.
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
No, most, if not all, accept that they are a religion. True Christianity does not follow religion.
@Lovegainers5
@Lovegainers5 2 ай бұрын
@stonesnbones9891 : Jesus is the ONLY WAY TO GOD the father and into heaven!
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 Ай бұрын
@@Lovegainers5 But clearly the Hindu Gods are the way to mathematical brilliance, which is much more important.
@mainecoonmami
@mainecoonmami 2 ай бұрын
If it’s a relationship, it’s an abusive one.
@HenrySimmons1225
@HenrySimmons1225 2 ай бұрын
what
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
Provide an example
@PennyDreadful2024
@PennyDreadful2024 Ай бұрын
@@nightshade99 watch the video
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 Ай бұрын
@@PennyDreadful2024 I did, hence my position.
@steve_____K307
@steve_____K307 Ай бұрын
@@nightshade99 Hello nightshade99, have you studied the Bible? Can you tell us what happens when someone falls short of a proper relationship with God and how the Biblical concept of Hell factors in? Think of this as an opportunity to share your faith and explain your suggestion that a relationship with God is never abusive. Thank you.
@Requinix17
@Requinix17 2 ай бұрын
The "its a relationship not a religion" was my absolute go-to line when I was a Christian. It makes me sick now
@Wayden-i2v
@Wayden-i2v 2 ай бұрын
You are my favorite KZbinr creator out of all! You have brought me so much peace and mind clarity and my life is so much easier now ! ❤
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for saying that ☺️ I'm so happy my videos have helped you ❤️❤️
@edhall3719
@edhall3719 2 ай бұрын
​@@jezebelvibesThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .
@davidclark573
@davidclark573 2 ай бұрын
BREAKING AWAY FROM A RELIGION THAT KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE PAST FOR NOT CONVERTING, IS A GOOD THING.
@josephaltman460
@josephaltman460 2 ай бұрын
​@@jezebelvibes I feel the same way. Thank you 💯
@racerx4152
@racerx4152 2 ай бұрын
until you have to face god. denying it wont make it go away.
@KimbaIsHere
@KimbaIsHere 2 ай бұрын
You are the shining example of freedom from the tyranny of complementarism. Always enjoy your work. The amount of effort and thought you put into each and every video really shows.
@joecity9
@joecity9 2 ай бұрын
Any god worth believing in would forgive us for not believing in him.
@TheLegendOfRandy
@TheLegendOfRandy 2 ай бұрын
@@Tom-and-Jerry-again I have no memory from any God from "before" my birth, whatever that even means. Also, accountability _for what?_ Am I going to be "held accountable" for innocuous thoughts that I have no control over? You don't seem to make any sense.
@TheLegendOfRandy
@TheLegendOfRandy 2 ай бұрын
@@Tom-and-Jerry-again So God isn't all-knowing? God doesn't know the future? That makes sense. He doesn't know the future, which is why He is confused and makes mistakes. That make sense, sincerely.
@LogicStandsBeforeGod
@LogicStandsBeforeGod 2 ай бұрын
@joecity9 _"Any god worth believing in would forgive us for not believing in him. "_ Believing in God is one thing and praying to God for one's self benefit is another, out of 2 billion Muslims, how many you think pray five times a day, certainly not majority of Muslims do pray five times a day, but many do, but not majority and so can God forgive them should they seek sincere repentance from God? It is up to God alone, Muslims never despair the mercy of God, which God Himself says in the Quran. In Islam, God forgives those *believers* who seek sincerely forgiveness from God. Those Muslims who left Earth, without rectifying the damaged he or she caused to other people, can be subjected to time in hell however hell is not a permanent place for Muslims. Should God wants to forgive whosoever, it is up to God alone, all one's repentance can work for him/her before leaving Earth, never despair the mercy of God.
@TheLegendOfRandy
@TheLegendOfRandy 2 ай бұрын
@@LogicStandsBeforeGod If a God exists (they don't), why would they deliberately hide from us? Even worse, judge us for using the brains that He supposedly gave us? If any deity _wants_ us to know He exists, then why is He the King of Hide and God seek Champion of the World? ' Through no fault of my own, _everything I understand about _reality_ suggests that there are no Gods, magic or supernatural ju-ju. Why should I be punished for honestly using my brain?
@LogicStandsBeforeGod
@LogicStandsBeforeGod 2 ай бұрын
@@TheLegendOfRandy _" If a God exists (they don't), why would they deliberately hide from us? "_ One cannot look upon God and God has given you free will. If God showed up before you, will there be choice not to believe in God? If your answer is "no" then it will infringe free-will of mankind.
@man-yp1gb
@man-yp1gb 2 ай бұрын
Love your channel, keep up the good work!
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Thank you ☺️
@edhall3719
@edhall3719 2 ай бұрын
​@@jezebelvibesThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .
@shortcircuit-nm8rq
@shortcircuit-nm8rq 2 ай бұрын
@@jezebelvibes helping people deconstruct religion is great but drifting them away further from the God is bad really bad, all your questions have real answers, you would be surprised you have zero excuses
@SlimShady51
@SlimShady51 2 ай бұрын
​@@shortcircuit-nm8rq God is an atheist. So she is bringing them closer to Him.
@DG-cu1vt
@DG-cu1vt 2 ай бұрын
@@shortcircuit-nm8rq Prove that there is a god. Even more so, the god that you believe in. There is no proof for any god.
@PrestonGwoompi
@PrestonGwoompi 2 ай бұрын
I discovered your channel just before you went on your break. Your videos helped me come out as an atheist. Thank you for your awesome content and sharing your experiences with us.
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
So happy you're finding your own authentic path 😊❤️
@AlanObrien-if4ie
@AlanObrien-if4ie 2 ай бұрын
Kristi you are a universal voice of reason ,keep up the good work and allow your reality to transcend all religions so more can be set on the right path
@mailill
@mailill 2 ай бұрын
Relationship between God-humans, as described in the Bible 1. Father - Child 2. Husband - Bride 3. Lord - servant/slave (Paul goes back and forth between 1 and 3, contradicting himself about it)
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Good catch! That definitely adds another unsavory layer.
@edhall3719
@edhall3719 2 ай бұрын
​@@jezebelvibesyou're right about religion but wrong about God. I met God at the cross when Jesus saved me I'm washed in the blood of the Lamb . It's that simple . For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved . John 3 seventeen . I don't go to church either it's all a racket including yours
@abiliv-lf9tz
@abiliv-lf9tz 2 ай бұрын
Ew so an incestuous abusive relationship Ew 💀🤮
@ALEX-KYLE-g9
@ALEX-KYLE-g9 2 ай бұрын
​@@edhall3719 did you know Jesus and Paul were not talking about THAT kind of salvation you have in mind? They were thinking about being saved from their physical enemies (the Roman empire) but once that belief entered pagan Roman cities, it didn't make any sense for Roman citizens so it was changed and twisted to mean what modern Christians believe.
@abiliv-lf9tz
@abiliv-lf9tz 2 ай бұрын
@edhall3719 I feel like you're using that loaded languages cults use Buh whatever
@curious_atoms
@curious_atoms Ай бұрын
You have exorcised my demons. This mind is now blessed by reality.
@FoursWithin
@FoursWithin 2 ай бұрын
So a relationship with a malignant narcissist is held up as the highest greatest most important relationship that anyone can ever have. Hallelujah 😮
@FoursWithin
@FoursWithin 2 ай бұрын
@@Tom-and-Jerry-again The God that's being referred to is the abrahamic God of the Bible. The stories themselves make it clear over and over again the many attributes of malignant narcissism this particular God holds. If you need more details the video offers plenty.
@Shadowbased_2006
@Shadowbased_2006 28 күн бұрын
God is not a narcissist I don't know what your talking about
@FoursWithin
@FoursWithin 28 күн бұрын
@@Shadowbased_2006 What part do you not understand? Is it that that don't know what a narcissist is, Or are you unable to connect this behavior to the God of the Bible? Between my comment and this video (did you watch it) it's pretty much spelled out. So if you need more you'll have to specify your lack of understanding.
@Shadowbased_2006
@Shadowbased_2006 28 күн бұрын
@@FoursWithin many people say he is love and peace so theirfore he can't be a narcissist and plus he loves his children equally
@FoursWithin
@FoursWithin 28 күн бұрын
@Certified_bro_2006 Many people say many things. This doesn't mean what they say equals reality. As many people also say Allah is God, or Vishnu is God. Do you agree with them just because billions say and make these claims ? Plenty of people also fall in love with narcissists. There are tons of these unfortunates in therapy trying to pick up the pieces after such a whirlwind relationship. So hearing that a narcissist is love or peace or whatever positive trait someone wants to project on them is no surprise. "Plus he loves his children equally" This is a claim. A claim without a single shred of verifiable evidence. It's simply part of the standard rhetoric from a particular religion.
@zap...
@zap... 2 ай бұрын
He who seeks God is lost. He who finds him is crazy.
@nate666
@nate666 2 ай бұрын
But at least I will be alive
@sos1691
@sos1691 2 ай бұрын
@@nate666 Alive and crazy? And you are satisfied with that?
@riseofdarkleela
@riseofdarkleela 2 ай бұрын
@@nate666at least that’s what you now believe….
@BeefT-Sq
@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын
@@nate666 "Nobody uses faith when crossing the street". -Unknown-
@hyperteleXii
@hyperteleXii 2 ай бұрын
This moronic idea dies of extinction very soon, because the Godless are unable to have children. Both births and fertility rates plummeting.
@thesixthgirl6199
@thesixthgirl6199 2 ай бұрын
I did an absolute spit-take when you described randomly opening the Bible in the hope of finding some kind of relevance or guidance to your life, and finding a "begat" list. How about a show of likes for those of us who've done that!
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
🤣 I knew I wouldn't be alone in this!
@riseofdarkleela
@riseofdarkleela 2 ай бұрын
lol just another one of the non answers one can find in, well, any book.
@docforest4851
@docforest4851 2 ай бұрын
Actually, you can do that with almost any book that has advice in it. Or better, a horoscope book. Don’t even bother using your zodiac sign….anything will seem to apply.
@dhuratadobbins3001
@dhuratadobbins3001 2 ай бұрын
Last time I did that I stopped reading the Bible all together, no point to ask a God whole doesn’t even respond
@racerx4152
@racerx4152 2 ай бұрын
there's plenty of instruction as to how to live your life, in the bible. you can't be lazy about it. start in mathew, and listen to weekly sermons at a protestant or baptist church, and you figure it out real quick.
@ericajohnson4015
@ericajohnson4015 2 ай бұрын
I remember being forced/guilted into going to church by my grandma on my moms side. Sitting there and hearing how I was nothing but dirty rags and the lowest of the low was hard. And just how the preacher said it, and how people agreed....and then they said the only way to be worthy was to let Jesus into our hearts, and it meant letting him control our lives. I just couldn't do it, I tried, but even as a little kid, I had terrible anxiety, and I felt worse for not allowing him his way. So I just resigned myself to never actually being saved. It also made me put up with a lot of bullying at school because it just felt like reinforcement that I was a terrible person and deserved it. I still struggle with negative self talk but im trying to get past it and deconstruct as best I can.
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
Yes, this is one of the things that Christianity-- even the secular versions of it we encounter in our schools, laws, businesses, and social mores--programs us with: we're unworthy to be alive. Heck of a thing for a god to say, but then, Yahweh was originally a god of war, so maybe that's why we get this message of annihilation. (Yahweh was one of about 80 Canaanite gods. They allowed their gods to have a lot more qualities than constant warfare.)
@Isaac-hm6ih
@Isaac-hm6ih 2 ай бұрын
Self esteem is hard to find once it's damaged. My situation was very different (autistic person surrounded by well meaning non-autistic people, rather than an abusive religion), but deconstructing my own negative self talk has led to a sort of defiant insistence on my own self worth. Others make demands without realising what obeying would cost most of the time. And if someone believes you're inherently worthless, they don't deserve your respect or any more attention than it takes to protect yourself from them.
@theboombody
@theboombody 2 ай бұрын
@@Isaac-hm6ih I once said self-control builds more self-respect than self-esteem ever will. Self-esteem can still build respect of course, but self-control builds it a whole heck of a lot more. It's difficult to master though.
@greg-op2jh
@greg-op2jh 2 ай бұрын
The amazing thing for me is saying the prayer and wanting it..but then questioning a million times if I really was saved. It was absolutely terrifying. So glad to be free from that.
@26beegee
@26beegee 2 ай бұрын
You deserve respect just as much as anyone else! Just the fact that you exist makes you valuable. Ever hear of the butterfly effect? The ripples of air created by butterfly wings cause a ripple effect that touch more people and things than you can ever know! You are changing lives in positive ways just by being here! You just touched my life!! Thank you! I needed that as I am a grieving mother who needed to be touched! You just touched my heart, Erica! ❤️
@Jacqueline-4678
@Jacqueline-4678 2 ай бұрын
Christy, I love your channel. It’s inspiring and so positive. And I too noticed that you are so much more relaxed . I am glad you took care of yourself. It shows. I always enjoy the new content. So many times you bring up subjects that I also wondered about. You bring clarity. Thank you.
@corrine.talbot8
@corrine.talbot8 2 ай бұрын
I'm mind blown by you! Thank you for this...
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
❤️
@edhall3719
@edhall3719 2 ай бұрын
​@@jezebelvibesJesus said Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled . Matthew five six . Jesus said for my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed . John six fifty five . For he hath made him to be sin for us who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him . Second Corinthians five twenty one . For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ . Galatians 3 27 . For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness but unto us which are saved it is the power of God . First Corinthians 1 18. Jesus said before Abraham was I am. John eight fifty eight. Jesus said this is the bread which cometh down from heaven that a man may eat thereof and not die . John six fifty. Then said the Lord unto Moses Behold I will rain bread from heaven for you . Exodus 16 4 Jesus said I am that bread of life . John six forty eight. I am poured out like water and all my bones are out of joint my heart is like wax it is melted in the midst of my bowels . Psalm 22 14 Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts ten forty five . Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 . There is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains. There is a Fountain old hymn
@Neku628
@Neku628 2 ай бұрын
@@jezebelvibes Have you already tackled the claim that if you sin, God closes all communication to you. "God can't be in the presence of sin", I forget how they phrase it.
@christasimon9716
@christasimon9716 2 ай бұрын
@@Neku628 Yet everyone is a sinner.
@Stormy-pe2xc
@Stormy-pe2xc 20 күн бұрын
​@@Neku628 So if we're born sinners, then we commit sin at the moment of birth (born a sinner), so communication stops then, never even started. And if God can't be in the presence of sin, then God can't be at any births or around anyone ever. You have done your commiting of sin just by being born. And no option to be born not of sin. Sounds like a lose- lose situation to me. Always had thoughts when a kid of not being of this planet, that I belonged somewhere else.
@singwithdiana
@singwithdiana 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, Kristi. I've been struggling so much lately with religious trauma and hearing your perspective always helps me cope. I hope you have a wonderful day! :)
@memecity9849
@memecity9849 2 ай бұрын
Nah, it's a religion. Relationships are reciprocal in reality
@theboombody
@theboombody 2 ай бұрын
My religion has blessed me in a way that has been highly non-reciprocal. I reap way more than I sow and it makes no sense. I'm not materially rich, but I'm not impoverished, and whatever goal I've had my heart set on has been granted. Then I have to search for new goals. I really don't know how to be more blessed than that.
@Jake-mv7yo
@Jake-mv7yo 2 ай бұрын
@@theboombody You could have been aborted and be in Heaven right now. That is truly blessed.
@riluna3695
@riluna3695 2 ай бұрын
@@theboombody I'm very glad to hear that you're doing so well. Many aren't so lucky. The more who thrive, the better the world is. May I ask you a question, though? I've known many people who have as much success as, or even more than, what you say you have, but who are not religious at all. So I'm curious why you attribute these successes to the religion specifically. It seems like the idea of someone reaping more than they sowed would make perfect, if unfortunate, sense if the world were not being guided into fairness. It does make sense in light of a God that gives more generously to the good than they give in turn, though then the good who reap nothing no matter how much they sow ceases to make any sense at all, and there are unpleasantly many who experience that firsthand in this life, even those who believe deeply. So I am very curious to hear what you're seeing that I seem not to be, that allows you to be so certain of where your good fortune originates from.
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
It is reciprocal
@memecity9849
@memecity9849 2 ай бұрын
@nightshade99 how so?
@koshgam
@koshgam 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate your video! Deconstruction is a process, and this helps alot.
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
I'm so happy this helps!
@ccjjock4002
@ccjjock4002 2 ай бұрын
BECAUSE MUCH OF WHAT SHE IS SAYING IN HER VIDEO CLIPS ARE TRUE.
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
@@ccjjock4002 Not at all
@khildenbrand1
@khildenbrand1 2 ай бұрын
"My feelings don't matter." "Boundaries are not an option." Spot on! No wonder why being raised in this religious culture is so damaging.
@loledssdafd3429
@loledssdafd3429 2 ай бұрын
Wondering why studies show that Christians are more happy than atheists
@BonniBarlow-fn6oj
@BonniBarlow-fn6oj 2 ай бұрын
When a person has an addiction, it warps their self view and their view of everyone they are in relationships with -- because their relationship is actually with the addiction. An alcoholic can't have relationships with other people because their primary relationship is with alcohol. Same for drugs, sex, gambling -- and religion. When Christians are addicted to their version of God, Jesus, holy trinity, whatever -- that can be their only relationship. Everyone else is secondary. The religion doesn't give them love back -- just like the money, sex and alcohol. It's an empty relationship since it's not based in reality. It's very sad. Thank you for what you do. Also, if not believing in Christianity makes us warped or un-loving, you certainly are a direct answer to that argument - you look radiant in your confidence and your self.
@Wayden-i2v
@Wayden-i2v 2 ай бұрын
@@BonniBarlow-fn6oj 👏🏽
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596 Ай бұрын
maybe that's because you never actually met Jesus. But I do, not because I was worthy or whatsoever, but because He had mercy. And now my prayers are answered even those I don't say aloud. I had the privilege to actually met Him and He's now the ruler of my life. Glorified be His name for the eternity. Is not my fault that your heart is so hardened that you can't listen to His call.
@Nontheistatheist
@Nontheistatheist 29 күн бұрын
@@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596 Met jesus? You have not either. He doesn't exist. If he did you could prove it. Can't prove leprechauns doesn't exist so don't ask me to prove god doesn't. Lol
@Nontheistatheist
@Nontheistatheist 29 күн бұрын
@@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596 Ruler of your life? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596
@adonisjorgehuicicorrales3596 29 күн бұрын
@@Nontheistatheist I do have met Jesus because He brought me to His church and is showing me every day that He does exist. Moreover, He has talked to me in many occasions by prophecy. I have also never seen a leprechaun or Santa Claus, but I do spoke to Jesus in my church, so I don't have doubts, that He does exist. I spent 32 years of my life denying Him just like you do now, but I was proven wrong. May the Lord open your eyes but I warn you, those who find Him will have to male a choice follow Him or reject Him.
@CaptainCanuck68
@CaptainCanuck68 2 ай бұрын
I love people who love indiscriminately, without prerequisites. If there are conditions to your love I'm not interested in it.
@CaptainCanuck68
@CaptainCanuck68 2 ай бұрын
God requires your love before he "loves" you.
@PolymorphicPenguin
@PolymorphicPenguin 2 ай бұрын
The sort of love that your talking about is exactly the sort of love that Jesus commanded his followers to have. Now, do we Christians live up to Jesus' teaching? No, we all fall so short, but if there are conditions to love then Jesus isn't interested in it either. In Luke 6:32, Jesus says "“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them" (NIV)
@Childfree334
@Childfree334 2 ай бұрын
​@PolymorphicPenguin The kind of love you describe from the Bible is not anything I want to be part of. Loving people who don't love you is idolatry and invites ALL KINDS of abuse. My mother loved a man who didn't love her, and because of that, her children suffered greatly. There is ZERO reciprocity in the biblical version of love. No thank you.
@xtina2189
@xtina2189 2 ай бұрын
And their conditions are always hidden from you until they're ready to cash-in on the fact, that you haven't met their secret conditions.
@edhall3719
@edhall3719 2 ай бұрын
​@@xtina2189There is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .
@James-wv3hx
@James-wv3hx 2 ай бұрын
I'm renting a room to an old friend who is a Christian. And he complains all the time that his daughter won't talk to him. I started to show him your opinion but he refused to listen.
@DeJaVuCa
@DeJaVuCa 2 ай бұрын
We are in an awakening. 2024 CE
@krissys0sw33t
@krissys0sw33t 2 ай бұрын
Can’t force people to believe what they don’t want to
@abiliv-lf9tz
@abiliv-lf9tz 2 ай бұрын
Maybe thats why his daughter won't listen to him--
@abiliv-lf9tz
@abiliv-lf9tz 2 ай бұрын
You didn't force him right?
@valerune192
@valerune192 2 ай бұрын
literally, you cant argue with crazy people, cuz they dont listen, dont see reason, dont think for themselves. You should just throw him out and rent to someone less problematic
@emmawheeler4624
@emmawheeler4624 2 ай бұрын
Kirsti I could listen to you all day. Every single video has me nodding along and agreeing. I was in an abusive relationship for 9 years, and then a few years later became a Christian. From one abusive relationship to another. They say it often happens but I never even considered a religion as being a toxic relationship. Yet it’s so true, every single word. Love you and your content ❤
@arthuryi3130
@arthuryi3130 2 ай бұрын
Thank you once again for the video. The section around 14:00 - 16:00 about how it difficult it is to have a healthy relationship with God when there is silence all around is exactly what happened to me. I prayed and prayed to God when I was a Christian, yet it felt like talking to a brick wall. The response from other Christians about needing faith and time. Well, after 30 plus years of waiting, I realized that it is better to just give up and that maybe there is no God that will answer your prayers or is listening to what you say to Him in quiet time. And yes, Christianity is a toxic religion and relationship.
@ccjjock4002
@ccjjock4002 2 ай бұрын
BLINDS PEOPLE FROM REALITY!!!! (CHRISTIANITY)
@platzhirsch4275
@platzhirsch4275 2 ай бұрын
Let's assume you life in a kingdom. Your king is your king who in a way takes care of his kingdom, as your live in that kingdom of course the king 🤴 indirectly takes care of you too. But he's nevertheless the King and not your best friend. Do you have the right to personally talk to your King because he's your king? Can you stand at his gate and demand the king come down to talk to you? Expecting such a relationship from your King truly tells more about you then of the king. Doesn't it? If you then walk around town slandering the king because he didn't come to talk to you calling him abusive and the king nevertheless leaves you to do so that tells alot about both you and the king too.
@Kelley_X
@Kelley_X 2 ай бұрын
@@platzhirsch4275 this whole video was about Christians claiming “it’s a relationship, not a religion” and you gave an analogy about a remote ruler that does not want to see you. well played, well played
@platzhirsch4275
@platzhirsch4275 2 ай бұрын
​@@Kelley_X the analogy was held simple for you to understand. I could use another analogy, but first these two points: 1. God doesn't demand you worship him and praise him to go to "heaven". That's not the idea of what life on earth is about. You're life on earth is solemnly about YOU! God made you and gave you all your talents and gifts to use them however you please. He loves you to use those talents as you please and Rejoice in it. The praise to God comes when understanding that naturally to many, but unfortunately not to all- like you. You received your life and gifts and think therefore God owes you the right to be constantly there for you on a direkt personal level. You have a problem and pray and expect God to immediately interact with you and if he "doesn't" you turn your back and post slanderous videos full of abuse and belittlement and at the same time, despite your felt entitlement towards God, you call him abusive towards you. So let me tell you a story: There was once was a young couple that loved themselves dearly, war broke out and the husband had to go to war. The couple kissed and hugged at the train station and the woman vowed to love him forever. The husband went to war always carried the picture of his beloved bride in hid breast pocket, kissing it every day. The woman wrote many letters ✉️ to him, but couldn't call him of course. He got many letters from her and send many flowers to drop in front of her front door to show his love. One day after some years the husband got a leave on short notice and came home 🏡 . The woman had thrown all his belongings in the trash, thrown their marriage ring away, burnt their pictures, removed his name from the front door and was using social media to slander him badly what a wicked and abusive man he was. He found her with another man. On seing her husband she was shocked but accused him it was his fault that she did all that as he never answered any letters all those years. The husband looked at her in tears saying: those flowers 💐 in front of the door 3x week where from me, your favourite song I got your radio station to play every Saturday was from me, the coffee that was left every Sunday with your favourite marmalade and toast every Sunday morning was from me. Truly you are this woman and Christ shall likewise return. He loves you too. Think again weather your behavior is appropriate. ❤
@snoopdog8589
@snoopdog8589 Ай бұрын
The 'relationship with God' line is bait to get you in the door. Then you get hooked. It's like going to the car dealer, the old bait and switch. It's a business. Gotta keep those customers coming in.
@adamc1966
@adamc1966 2 ай бұрын
If xtianity is not a religion then red is not a color ❤
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for someone to explain how it *doesn't* fall under the definition of religion
@edhall3719
@edhall3719 2 ай бұрын
​@@jezebelvibesThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .
@areuaware6842
@areuaware6842 2 ай бұрын
Anything can be a religion.
@Stegster
@Stegster 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@jezebelvibes Ex fundie here :D At our church we were taught it was because “religion is made by man, Christianity is made by god” Is it a good excuse? Absolutely not, but that’s what was drilled into our heads as kids
@DeJaVuCa
@DeJaVuCa 2 ай бұрын
Red is a color. Odin is god. And we are in 2024 CE (waken up )
@LeftHand_Bbq
@LeftHand_Bbq 2 ай бұрын
Was raised Pentecostal. Always felt like God had his thumb ready to squash me for being a sinner and not living up to his standards.
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
They taught you wrong then
@jimbobaggans1564
@jimbobaggans1564 Ай бұрын
I had this friend in grade school. He was born into the Pentecostal religion I was born into the Jehovah witness religion. We would compare our wacky religions with one another at recess. We concluded they were both totally insane.
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 Ай бұрын
@@jimbobaggans1564 I would vote unanimous
@Pikkon-17
@Pikkon-17 Ай бұрын
Lol why Glwoukd God give you the spirit of fear? I fall short everyday and I don't feel like he's gonna squash me. That's satan talking
@DarkstrifeQueen-v8v
@DarkstrifeQueen-v8v 17 күн бұрын
Their god addiction is the reason why I’ve been struggling with mental illness along with several others in our position. But it wasn’t until I saw the Flying Spaghetti Monster appear on my brother’s kitchen table that I found a better god than the one I was raised in.
@LolitaBonitaaa
@LolitaBonitaaa 2 ай бұрын
My mother in law is the most religious person I know and right now she's going through one of the hardest times emotionally and financially. I keep asking my husband when is this god, that she's been workshiping and idolizing for decades and who supposedly loves her so much, going to finally show up for her and love her back. This woman cannot possibly take one more blow. Toxic and abusive does not even describe how awful this "relationship" she has with god is. She's even told her youngest son, who has severe mental health issues, that to her, god is more important than him. It's so sad.
@jenniperkins4260
@jenniperkins4260 Ай бұрын
So sad it’s everywhere ppl put god above everything everyone. Where is he ? 1 billion years of no evidence
@StrongAtheist68
@StrongAtheist68 2 ай бұрын
You are wonderful! Thank you for being brave and talking about this.
@eleden99
@eleden99 2 ай бұрын
I like to joke that Christians are stuck in a toxic relationship.. Watching this video still gave me whiplash-- This went from making me think of toxic relationships, to abusive ones.. to hearing things that sounded borderline illegal???? What a.. strange love..
@roxydina7615
@roxydina7615 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one. Kristi, you do these videos in ways no one else has or can. So Well done. Thank you.
@WilliamGoeth
@WilliamGoeth 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this.i never thought about it before.and i did not realise how toxic it is.i feel free now that i don't have to feel guilty all the time.
@merarifreethought
@merarifreethought Ай бұрын
The "relationship" with yahweh is at best abusive. Love that you brought this up!
@LawrenceAdele1919
@LawrenceAdele1919 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kristi. This is such an important conversation! We have been indoctrinated to accept abuse from religion; it's insidious and permeates everything. I appreciate your channel!
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 2 ай бұрын
'Relationship with God' the one I don't miss not having.
@soniachambers6460
@soniachambers6460 2 ай бұрын
Truth
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
You will though,....you will
@D.MarcelloRadice
@D.MarcelloRadice Ай бұрын
Dude, it really much better to do not be like you, and hope you can disappear... you are not well.
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 Ай бұрын
@@nightshade99 Okay, when, how???
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 Ай бұрын
@@MrCanis4 When you stand before Him in judgment
@FaithIsNotEvidence
@FaithIsNotEvidence 2 ай бұрын
Finally got a chance to see the whole video. Honestly, breaking it down into those 3 categories of relationships goes a long way to explain how the relationship is unhealthy in every way from a creator being that states he loves you. During my last few months of identifying as a Xristian, it finally dawned on me that I was talking to myself. Listening to my own inner voice. And just like Kristi stated, randomly opening my bible to get a word from the lord. Only to find that what I turned to was no where near what I needed. Making excuses for the lack of real answers.. blaming myself for not fasting long enough or some lack in my prayer life. All B.S., just glad I was able to see the inculcated mythology was in fact just a story from bronze age ppl with limited understanding (not due to their own fault)... it just should not be used as something speaking to ppl today for answers to life's deepest questions. ~ As always, great presentation easy to understand breakdown 👍👍
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
The beautiful thing about realizing the voice of god was your own voice all along, is that you never lose it. It's still there within you :) you were the one guiding yourself all along.
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 2 ай бұрын
I always tell christians their big undoing was the holidays. As kids we were told there is an invisible sky man who knows everything, that there is a fat man in a red suit who travels the world in one night, there is a rabbit the hides chocolate eggs and a fairy that gives change in exchange for teeth. Then as we grow up we learn there is no fat man, there is no fairy, there is no rabbit, "we were lying". But then its "oh but there's definitely an invisible sky man who knows everything, but no, you'll never see him".
@HenrySimmons1225
@HenrySimmons1225 2 ай бұрын
can you stop bashing a religion
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 2 ай бұрын
@@HenrySimmons1225 You realize what channel you are at right?
@HenrySimmons1225
@HenrySimmons1225 2 ай бұрын
@@mikearchibald744 Yeah, a channel bashing religion, but then cries when religious people bash atheists 😂
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 2 ай бұрын
@@HenrySimmons1225 Being forced to listen to religious gibberish is not 'bashing atheism', its literally holding people against their will. Bash away, anything beyond vague notions of intelligent design are too stupid for anybody to cry about. Sure, god is an old creepy man who doesn't shave. Thats too stupid to ever be insulted by anybody who would make such a claim.
@D.MarcelloRadice
@D.MarcelloRadice Ай бұрын
do not tell us anything... you can not teach us anything.
@Alpha0371
@Alpha0371 Ай бұрын
I have been a Christian for 47 years, got saved at 12 years old, grew up in a Southern Baptist Church just like you did, but you have showed me a side of God I have never seen. I tend to agree with you.
@knowledgenewness3264
@knowledgenewness3264 Ай бұрын
She showed you? What? You have a brain right? You have your personal experiences, right? Her experiences are not yours. Discern things on your own don't blindly follow before getting results.
@Nontheistatheist
@Nontheistatheist Ай бұрын
@@knowledgenewness3264 Can a personal experience be wrong? Yes or no question.
@Nontheistatheist
@Nontheistatheist Ай бұрын
@@knowledgenewness3264 Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Pagans have personal experience about their god. Sooooo
@knowledgenewness3264
@knowledgenewness3264 29 күн бұрын
@@Nontheistatheist an experience is similar to a written story. It's yours. There is no wrong or right experience. It's just experience
@Nontheistatheist
@Nontheistatheist 29 күн бұрын
@knowledgenewness3264 experiences doesn't mean crap. Sorry. Do you think personal experiences would stand up in the court of law? Yes or no question.
@emilya8314
@emilya8314 Ай бұрын
This is such an important point - I stepped away from 10 years of evangelical christianity right into a 12 year long abusive relationship. I didn't understand what abuse looked like.
@scottmoore7588
@scottmoore7588 2 ай бұрын
The thing that disgusts me most about religious people is that in their eyes, God can do no wrong. God could come down in human form and do something unspeakably evil such as raping a child, and theists would look at each other and go "Ah well, that's too bad. Hey did you see that football game yesterday?" Yet they have the audacity to tell atheists that we have no way of knowing right from wrong. Disgusting.
@RashadJames-y3e
@RashadJames-y3e 2 ай бұрын
Well God wouldn’t down and rape a child
@xenowarrior282
@xenowarrior282 2 ай бұрын
Nah, you've got it wrong. They wouldn't say, "Ah well, that's too bad" They would be cheering for it, and might inspire others to join in. Remember, God in their eyes is the ultimate incarnation of good. He is righteousness and justice and goodness itself. So if he ever did indeed do that to a child, it would be seen as an ultimate act of good. Who cares what the child thinks, God is doing it, therefore, it is good. Honestly, with all the times God committed genocide and other such atrocities in the Bible, it's a wonder why most people who follow the Bible don't get in on the action nowadays.
@njhoepner
@njhoepner 2 ай бұрын
If one takes this religion seriously, isn't that what "god" is in fact doing? Watching all these things (and worse) happen over and over and over again, endlessly, and sitting there with arms folded muttering "well, someday I'll get even for that one...and that one...and that one...someday...in the great by and by...but not now...too busy...just let it go on..."
@scottmoore7588
@scottmoore7588 Ай бұрын
@@njhoepner For all we know the god of christianity let Hitler into heaven, that's how evil he's been shown to be.
@njhoepner
@njhoepner Ай бұрын
@@scottmoore7588 The only true constant of christian "morality" is might makes right..."god" does whatever he wants, people are required to praise it as good, or else.
@divine-by-zero
@divine-by-zero 2 ай бұрын
Hooo, Kristy’s gonna make a bunch of people BIG MAD!! 😂😂😂 Love it. Great episode.
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
That's pretty typical 😭🥴🤣
@DeJaVuCa
@DeJaVuCa 2 ай бұрын
Compliance is not an attribute
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f 2 ай бұрын
They're just being faithful . . . *Titus 2:9-10* "Teach _SLAVES_ to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive." *1 Timothy 2:1-3* “I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people - for *KINGS* and all those in *authority* - that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior.” *1-Timothy 2:11-14:* "A woman should learn in _quietness_ and _full_ SUBMISSION. I do *NOT* permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be _QUIET._ For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a _sinner."_
@Keisha-e4q
@Keisha-e4q 2 ай бұрын
She's going to help a lot of people who struggles with their belief as she did.
@greg-op2jh
@greg-op2jh 2 ай бұрын
❤️
@urban_hermit_731
@urban_hermit_731 2 ай бұрын
I wish I'd had this clarity of thought that you show here decades ago.
@Postdisclosureworld
@Postdisclosureworld Ай бұрын
I really enjoy your content. I love good argumentation.
@CharlesPayet
@CharlesPayet 2 ай бұрын
It’s a highly irritating approach by Christians, because if they really mean it, then literally every single person’s “relationship with Jesus” qualifies as an individual religion. Not just thousands of Christian denominations, but billions.
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Oh wait! That's a really interesting point!
@CaptainCanuck68
@CaptainCanuck68 2 ай бұрын
@@CharlesPayet They're all arguing over whose imaginary friend is better.
@CharlesPayet
@CharlesPayet 2 ай бұрын
@@jezebelvibes thank you! 🙏
@heiwaii847
@heiwaii847 2 ай бұрын
Well that would explain one reason why there's disagreements even from those within the same denominations. Just seems like another way to divide people to be honest. Like we need more of that nowadays
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
Not true
@catherinerosner970
@catherinerosner970 2 ай бұрын
One of my favorite videos you have done! I remember being taught NOT to listen to those who question. That only got me to seek the truth and question in the years since. What I really like is your comparing side by side the differences between healthy/unhealthy relationships. Sounds like some interesting talking points with my Christian family and friends. Thank you!
@ahsokaventriss3268
@ahsokaventriss3268 Ай бұрын
Shit. My Dad told me he was praying for my death because I was living such a sin-filled life. Good Christian, that man.
@kidslovesatan34
@kidslovesatan34 Ай бұрын
​@@Jo-tm3zq111 "travel in spiritual realms" 😂
@walterude6323
@walterude6323 2 ай бұрын
When my dad died after two years of suffering cancer, on the first night after he passed, my family and I gathered to talk about his funeral and to talk about our grief. And I said that if god exists, then he's cruel for letting my dad suffer for so long before taking his life. And my mother, as Christian as they come, went ballistic. She was horrified by what she considered my audacity to question god. And that's a god I'm supposed to be in a relationship with? One who has such a fragile constitution, I'm not even allowed to vent my grief to him? Even in my pain, I'm supposed to be well-behaved toward him? Yeah, no.
@theboombody
@theboombody 2 ай бұрын
Many Biblical prophets vented their grief to God and God didn't love them any less for doing so.
@davidclark573
@davidclark573 2 ай бұрын
No one on planet Earth even knows what god is so why should you be chastised for questioning god?
@Lovley11649
@Lovley11649 2 ай бұрын
First I want to say sorry that you had that experience. The thing is about Christianity just like any race, or group of people there a good and there are bad in it. Some Christian’s are so legalistic, pious and religious in their walk with Christ that they don’t know how to show compassion or understanding towards others who may not share their same beliefs. I’m a Christian and just want to let you know your questions are valid, even in the Bible people questioned God. Habbauk is such an underrated book in the Bible because he asked tough, unconventional questions that a lot of unbelievers asked yet some Christian’s are so pious and uneducated in scripture that they bash people for having those questions instead of trying to understand and show grace. I hope you can understand that all Christian’s aren’t judgmental and ignorant. Hope you don’t see us all that way. Aagin your questions are valid! God bless you!💖
@unclerhombus
@unclerhombus 2 ай бұрын
Read the stories of the Bible - there are plenty of people in there who became directly angry at God. It’s part of being a human being.
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t disagree with you, but that *really* isn’t a good time to say something like that. A family member just died, emotions are running high, you’re not going to convince anyone you’ll just start a fight. I get the urge, I said some pretty vicious things about funeral planners when my dad died, but all it did was make my mum even more upset.
@jabronijames
@jabronijames 2 ай бұрын
I think if you have a partner and they tell you “I love you incredibly much, but if you do (x) you deserve to be tortured for eternity”, that isn’t them being loving. That isn’t being merciful. That’s them being coercive and giving you a threat. Now consider that we have to deify, love and worship this person and defend them with flimsy words after they commit mass genocides and regulate systems of human ownership and eternal suffering for finite sins with no option for redemption. This seems like you’re in a Stockholm situation relationship… loving this God and given false promises of milk and honey in this afterlife you have no clue ever exists if you defend this God to the ends of the earth.
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Well stated
@dagg310
@dagg310 2 ай бұрын
it's also not a choice when u tell someone, marry me or i'll lock u in my basement for the rest of ur life. ur only going to do the other choice so u can avoid the basement, which in the end isn't a choice !
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
That is a misrepresentation of God
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp 2 ай бұрын
Christianity is a cult...pure and simple. Kristi, you are a most beautiful person and we all so very much appreciate your insight. It took me many years, but finally, at the age of 60, I was able to leave it behind. Now at age 63, I find people like you most reassuring.
@NoGodsNoMasters-o1u
@NoGodsNoMasters-o1u 2 ай бұрын
The last relationship I had lasted close to 13 years. You know what the best part of it was? The fact that she actually existed and I saw her on a daily basis. We lived together, made big decisions together, and spoke to each other all the time. I'll say this about the Christian god: he's arguably prophetic, because his "relationship" with his people was an eerily accurate simulacrum of catfishing thousands of years before computers even existed! Pretty impressive stuff.
@cravenlestat7006
@cravenlestat7006 2 ай бұрын
LOL haha catfishing I love it and it fits perfectly
@japallo1
@japallo1 Ай бұрын
How do you “deconstruct” from a relationship with a “Malignant Narcissist?”
@miaj7422
@miaj7422 Ай бұрын
I'm glad that I came across your channel. I decided to walk away from Christianity last year and the amount of peace that I now have is something that I never experienced when I was a Christian. Through deconstructing, I've realized just how toxic it all is. A relationship with God felt like a never-ending cycle of suffering and confusion. The world was nowhere near as bad as Christians painted it out to be. Being able to actually experience a life free of religious bondage is the best feeling.
@knowledgenewness3264
@knowledgenewness3264 Ай бұрын
Why did you enter Christianity? I really hope you were not force? To become a Christian you must first believe in God. If you struggled with this belief then you weren't really a true follower.
@nickgold1462
@nickgold1462 Ай бұрын
njoy going to hell fr, the whole point is to suffer on earth and live an eternity in heaven you weak man lol pray for you tho
@miaj7422
@miaj7422 Ай бұрын
@knowledgenewness3264 I had no choice as a child but to believe in God and go to church. Now that the choice is mine and I know how toxic it all is, I'm choosing not to be a believer.
@kidslovesatan34
@kidslovesatan34 Ай бұрын
​​@@Jo-tm3zq111 how does one tell the difference between a true religion and a false one? What methods do you use? I'm not asking you to preach to me but describe a method.
@miaj7422
@miaj7422 Ай бұрын
@Jo-tm3zq111 I have no belief of anything, and I'm at peace. I'm not sure if your question was a joke, but I have common sense without a higher power.
@elliottpaine9259
@elliottpaine9259 2 ай бұрын
In matt 7 jesus asks his followers: what father is there, who, when his son asks for a fish, gives him a serpent? I thought of the passage in the old testament in numbers where the israelites go without food for a couple days and ask god for food. His answer? He sends poisonous snakes that bite, and many people died. What a loving father/husband to do such things
@CaptainCanuck68
@CaptainCanuck68 2 ай бұрын
A parent's job is also to educate the child yet God seems to want people to be frightened and ignorant. That's an abusive relationship with someone who wants only your fear and worship. He punishes people for their lack of belief and curiosity. He casts out his own children from Eden for their curiosity.
@anishb9216
@anishb9216 2 ай бұрын
He also tortures his own people
@dagg310
@dagg310 2 ай бұрын
no different than putting ur child in a room full of candy and then punishing them for eating the candy. why put ur child in that position in the first place just so u can punish them? and then go on to punish the rest of mankind for eternity?? not very divine imo.
@rageofheaven
@rageofheaven 2 ай бұрын
"Your honor, it's not my fault my toddler wandered into the pool and drowned. I mean, I knew it would happen, I watched it happen, and still did nothing to stop it, but you know, they made their own decisions."
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
And we see this exact dynamic spelled out politically by right-wing governments or would-be governments.
@CCelia1953
@CCelia1953 Ай бұрын
​@@dagg310.... Glad we realEYEsed the BS❤
@chrisgreener3654
@chrisgreener3654 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Comparing relationship with god as father child then as a bride and groom are two metaphors that don’t go well together without being creepy.
@Cowplunk
@Cowplunk 2 ай бұрын
One thing you didn't mention that I see among devout Christians I know is an attitude that Christians are to be dependent on God at all times. What kind of father wants his children to remain dependent on him throughout their lives? A bad one! I think the better analogy is probably the shepherd/sheep relationship, but in these modern times, admitting that you are a like a sheep is not a very good look.
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Which is funny, because I've had christian conservatives call ME sheep as an insult 🤣🥴
@Karel255
@Karel255 Ай бұрын
The reason for being dependent on God is so the devil doesn’t influence you. God provide for us and protects us from demons. Demons make you think sin is ok. But in reality it now it hurts you and your relationship with God. So plz think carefully about.
@Cowplunk
@Cowplunk Ай бұрын
@@Karel255 I'm sorry that you live in fear of wolves, oops I mean demons.
@Karel255
@Karel255 Ай бұрын
@ I don’t live in fear of that but I will not fight you on it bye
@BeccaYoley
@BeccaYoley 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Christianity also kind of teaches that your husband takes the place of your father, and he then has authority over you as a parent does a child. Super gross and repulsive!! Great video, Kristi!
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
No, that isn't true
@D.MarcelloRadice
@D.MarcelloRadice Ай бұрын
Not in that sense, but yes the husband is the leader of the family, no doubt about that..,. anyway what your atheism teach you? Be obsessed with what you do not believe anymore?
@BeccaYoley
@BeccaYoley Ай бұрын
@@D.MarcelloRadice Well it's causing a ton of harm, has caused the unaliving of my older brother and I was indoctrinated into it for decades so I don't know how you could expect me to keep my mouth shut about it, but I am sure you would love that if I did. As you are likely not of the opinion that women matter.
@BubbaF0wpend
@BubbaF0wpend 2 ай бұрын
All great points, Kristi! The "relationship with god" line always cracks me up, as far as I know, all relationships are with tangible beings; talking to god is literally a 1 sided conversation in your own head, there is 0 relationship happening here, just chatter from one side and nothing from the other
@BubbaF0wpend
@BubbaF0wpend 2 ай бұрын
​@@Tom-and-Jerry-again you need medical intervention if you think what you said is real.
@osasgordon4079
@osasgordon4079 2 ай бұрын
Kristi, it is incredibly helpful to deconstruct with your content. Being a pastors kids (both parents) this is not the easiest though I know im on the right track because i truly feel free and at least im better off saying "I dont know" about anything about christianity
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
"I don't know" in general is such a liberating statement. Because it's so often true.
@davesteadman1226
@davesteadman1226 2 ай бұрын
Our first mistake is expecting those who profiteer from religion to ever be honest!
@samsayed4063
@samsayed4063 19 күн бұрын
I believe that this is the MOST underestimated, yet the BEST, explanation to all the mess human beings experience on the ‘religion frontier’! Thank you! 🙏
@silveryfeather208
@silveryfeather208 2 ай бұрын
A cop that watches some kid gets assaulted would be rightfully told they are a pos... But god sitting back is just 'well I got other plans' or 'how dare you question god's logic?'
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 2 ай бұрын
No, He gave us the rules; we rebelled...that simple.
@steve_____K307
@steve_____K307 Ай бұрын
@@nightshade99 Hello nightshade99, I think what you meant is that "He specifically created us with imputed guilt because His first instantiations (Adam and Eve) rebelled as per His specific design and foreknowledge". Right? Did you mean something different?
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 Ай бұрын
@@steve_____K307 YOU: I think what you meant is that ME: Don't put words in my mouth. If you want my feedback, just ask me. YOU: "He specifically created us with imputed guilt ME: No. He originally created us humans as perfect beings. YOU: because His first instantiations (Adam and Eve) rebelled ME: First instantiatians? We originated from Adam & Eve. There is no FURTHER creation going on with that. YOU: as per His specific design and foreknowledge ME: He did not force anyone's hand to committ evil. YOU: ". Right? Did you mean something different? ME: The rebellion started loing before humans were created.
@steve_____K307
@steve_____K307 Ай бұрын
@@nightshade99 Hello nightshade99, there is some studying that you need to do with the faith that you robotically embrace.
@nightshade99
@nightshade99 Ай бұрын
@@steve_____K307 On the contrary. YOU need to study about the faith you impulsively deny.
@18471902
@18471902 2 ай бұрын
"When a 'Relationship with God' Turns Unhealthy"--A relationship with god IS unhealthy. I know because I was there for 18 years. Kristi, regarding your comments beginning at 14:08 that you continually prayed to god for him to reveal to you what he wanted you to do, that was the final experience that broke me of christianity. Besides doing all the other things believers do, seemingly with no results whatsoever except confusion and emotional pain, I constantly prayed to god for years for him to tell me or reveal to me what he wanted me to do with my life for his glory, how I should serve him, how I should witness, what career he wanted me to pursue, and I prayed for the well-being of others. I NEVER prayed for any earthly or material thing for myself. I got nothing but silence--or, as you put it, crickets. Long after my de-conversion, a believer confronted me about my unbelief. I made the general statement to him that god never answered any of my prayers. Without enquiring of me in the least what I prayed for, he launched on a lengthy lecture about how I prayed for selfish, worldly things, and that if, instead, I would only pray for god's guidance as to how I should serve him, he WOULD answer my prayers!
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
Yes, listening does not appear to be a skill of religious proselytizers.
@Karel255
@Karel255 Ай бұрын
Well I can’t say much about your situation but all I can say is that when praying you should repent, thank God for everything. I sorry about your experience with praying you ask God to reveal himself but that not how it works sadly. When you ever think about praying again ask for guidance and protection.
@leonticonderoga-h6i
@leonticonderoga-h6i Ай бұрын
@@Karel255 But that person already tried praying to God- a lot- to ask how they should live their life, how they should serve him- they asked for his guidance and never got an answer. I understand why they gave up prayer.
@EvansKeita-we2yv
@EvansKeita-we2yv 7 сағат бұрын
​@leonticonderoga-h6i maybe they didn't see the signs that were already there
@Mrpr0071
@Mrpr0071 2 ай бұрын
God testing people feels so unnecessary when he supposedly knows everything past, present and future. He should already know what anyone is or was going to do. No need for testing unless he's bored and very sadistic playing with people's feelings/suffering and enjoying the ride or the high of that drug. Very manipulative and unhealthy/abusive relationship.
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
Well, Job alone would show that the biblical god is bored and sadistic, not to mention the other atrocities.
@Liza_Maya
@Liza_Maya Ай бұрын
This video is very good, I laughed a few times while watching it because it is tragic and comical, great questions for anyone who is willing to think. Keep doing what you are doing.
@Idk.-.
@Idk.-. 2 ай бұрын
Nothing could ever convince me to believe in this religion! Thank you for making these videos, Kristi! ❤
@Shadowbased_2006
@Shadowbased_2006 28 күн бұрын
Jesus loves you though and it's OK to change and try to be better
@wMerlinw
@wMerlinw Ай бұрын
Gaslighting 101: Everything is part of God's plan. God put Satan here to fuck with you. You had free will so it's all your fault you're burning in Hell. But he loves you.
@bamacopeland4372
@bamacopeland4372 7 күн бұрын
Yes, if a boss of a company did 1% to.his employees he would be outed so fast. But because cult said so it's ok
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna 2 ай бұрын
6:15 my grandfather used to get upset because so many people only hear the first part and not the second. He said when you love someone you don’t do mean things to them because you want the best for them. My grandmother was in charge of finances in the house and only once did I hear him go “Sue Margaret, no” whereupon she nodded and said “Okay Andy” and that was the end of it. No yelling. No being mean to each other. Mutual respect and true love their entire lives.
@gertrudecampbell444
@gertrudecampbell444 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU! You state things so well. I agree but can never say it so well. I want to say to those that say not religion, relationship is religion is how you learn how to have a relationship. So glad you have pointed out how disfunctional that relationship is. Love is not what I felt.
@thesixthgirl6199
@thesixthgirl6199 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this!
@chadcwk
@chadcwk 2 ай бұрын
You are amazing. Laying out in a calming matter of fact way. Also, great teeth! I’m jealous
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
😊 thanks!
@chongkim-fh4zp
@chongkim-fh4zp 2 ай бұрын
Kristi, you have been learning about God for a long time. I can understand how much God has disillusioned you. Am agnostic. Good work, Kristi. Good luck.
@vanessam3195
@vanessam3195 2 ай бұрын
This made me wonder how much of my feelings about myself stem from the messages we were taught about ourselves. All of the messages were trained into us so fervently that they are hard to overcome, even though we know better know.
@shanejohnson1034
@shanejohnson1034 2 ай бұрын
The beginning of the loss of critical thinking skills started from the beginning. Could you imagine how advanced civilization would be with these limiting ideologies?
@EnglishMike
@EnglishMike 2 ай бұрын
I think it's more that critical thinking has always been an uphill battle. It's almost certain that religious beliefs became systemic long before rational thinking did. The Ancient Greek Gods came first, before their nascent mathematical and scientific explorations.
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
@@EnglishMike Yes, but it seems to me that people with multiple-god pantheons made it much more clear that it WAS mythology-- that the various deities represented qualities in nature or in humans. That's different from a monolithic god who demands that you obey them in everything and don't look for any other qualities but his-- kind of like those relationships where the husband doesn't allow the wife to have any outside friends.
@MG-ot2yr
@MG-ot2yr 2 ай бұрын
Its a "relationship" very similar to a domestic abuse cycle. You're bad and make the abuser punish you, but they love you! And you have free will to leave any time, but if you do they'll blow your brains out.
@mawhel
@mawhel 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear! So now it's okay to keep religion out of government and the public sphere. And it's okay that people are losing their religion en masse.
@jamie5mauser
@jamie5mauser 2 ай бұрын
I have a problem with the self-righteousness of Christians. That god does then special favors, while punishes others, particularly starving children or the innocent children killed in war.. But he’s really concerned about your football game, Jim…
@hyperteleXii
@hyperteleXii 2 ай бұрын
Maybe the children weren't innocent. If you had read the Bible, you would know that sins can destroy several generations down the line.
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f
@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f 2 ай бұрын
The most prosperous states: Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Mass. The least: Mississippi, West Virginia, Louisiana, Arkansas.
@Isaac-hm6ih
@Isaac-hm6ih 2 ай бұрын
​@hyperteleXii So your saying they're affected by some kind of mystical corruption which existed in the Hebrew religion, and claiming that that is the same as morality? Morally speaking, they're innocent. Some form of hypothetical infectious karma is irrelevant to morals.
@sundayoliver3147
@sundayoliver3147 2 ай бұрын
@@hyperteleXii Yes, and there's also that line in the Bible about how "the sins of the fathers shall not be visited on the children". How do you square these contradictions? Or do you just ignore them?
@hyperteleXii
@hyperteleXii 2 ай бұрын
It's not a contradiction. You can have both, applied to each individual circumstance. If you read the Bible, you will come to understand the relevant variables. For example, God is both peaceful and violent. That's not a contradiction, it's a judicious application of power through a moral will. Some have it coming, others will be saved. Everyone can in theory save themselves, but not everyone practically will. Some choose evil to their early graves. Others endure lasting blessings for following simple rules. Truly pathetic if you can't. @@sundayoliver3147
@man-yp1gb
@man-yp1gb Ай бұрын
I use to think god was speaking to me but later realized I was playing mind games in my own mind. You can create your own role playing game world in your mind and not be in touch with reality. 😂
@stefanheinzmann7319
@stefanheinzmann7319 Ай бұрын
​@@Jo-tm3zq111What makes you believe that "stopping your internal dialog" gets you any closer to the truth?
@kaptainkassanis
@kaptainkassanis Ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this so clearly. I think some 30 years of anxiety were due in the most part to my “relationship” with God.
@lupinematriarch3833
@lupinematriarch3833 Ай бұрын
Im so glad i discovered your channel. I only wish i could've found it earlier on my life. I grew up in an extremely christian home, went to christian schools, forced to go to church. I grew up being told "you shouldnt ask that" or "how dare you feel that way" and get cornered for hours about how im such a horrible person for having my own thoughts and feelings .for years after moving out, i battled with my mind with questions that no one could (or would) answer. But finding your channel and others like it, have really put my mind at ease, and for the first time in my 36 years of life, i feel ok being me. And i finally feel like all the questions i had for over a decade are actually being answered, so i can finally fully deconstruct. ❤
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 Ай бұрын
Funny, you just described my own upbringing being indoctrinated by my militant anti theist parents.
@kidslovesatan34
@kidslovesatan34 Ай бұрын
​@@gregsanich5183 Stop lying, you drank all the Kool-Aid from a very young age that your parents supplied you, and then you asked for more.
@johngomes4278
@johngomes4278 2 ай бұрын
This is a great channel 🎉
@jezebelvibes
@jezebelvibes 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@moosehunzie1880
@moosehunzie1880 2 ай бұрын
Everything you're saying, 💯 accurate! The sad part for the first 24 yrs of my life I only knew unhealthy/toxic relationships and then I thought Christianity changed that for another 20 yrs, but what I did was just replace one unhealthy relationship for another with 'god'. 🤦 It makes my stomach turn knowing I did this .. oh how wonderful to see it now!!! ❤
@aliasfakename3159
@aliasfakename3159 2 ай бұрын
If Christianity is a relationship, then God has 3 billion partners who he abuses, gaslights, and ignores but gets pissy if ONE of us stops praising him
@DG-cu1vt
@DG-cu1vt 2 ай бұрын
That makes for some pretty nasty STDs. 🤣
@Isaac-hm6ih
@Isaac-hm6ih 2 ай бұрын
While some who call themselves his favourites claim he's against polygamy, despite his own alleged words supporting it.
@HenrySimmons1225
@HenrySimmons1225 2 ай бұрын
How is he? That makes 0 sense
@MarceldeJong
@MarceldeJong 2 ай бұрын
I like your hairstyle! Looks great on you
@Chuck-se5hh
@Chuck-se5hh 2 ай бұрын
I was pleasantly stunned to see that this entire presentation was profoundly accurate in the harsh assertions and illustrations that you made against God. I am speechless. You have spoken truth here. This is profound at the fundamental level of truth about the nature and character of Yawheh.
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 2 ай бұрын
NO BIBLE, NO CREATOR, NO JESUS CHRIST bring DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and ETERNAL DEATHS Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, shame, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS to their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD as written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and Jesus Christ is the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18. All persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely be honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@jameswright...
@jameswright... 2 ай бұрын
​@@jaflenbond7854 Complete gibberish 😂
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 2 ай бұрын
@@jameswright... LIARS, CRUEL, MERCILESS, and DECEITFUL PERSONS on EARTH versus the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are clearly the LIARS, cruel, merciless, and deceitful persons on earth who are obviously hurt, offended, and angered by the TRUTHS that - 1. All persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 are clearly the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who are worthy and deserving of the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@facepalm9300
@facepalm9300 Ай бұрын
Kristi you’re the best I miss you on tiktok.
@steebie_c
@steebie_c 2 ай бұрын
Every time I watch one of your videos, I learn more and more about how indoctrinated I once was! It is wonderfully liberating to dismantle the wonky and fragile (and frankly, non-sensical) beliefs I was taught from childhood as being the real, true, and authentic beliefs. Thank you for your own insights and for sharing your journey with us.
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