When Did Cheap Knives Get Good!?

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00:00 Value Is Crazy
03:17 Ergos
05:54 Hidden Feature

[@chasewells5464]

I’m really enjoying these ultra budget knife options. Please keep them up.

[@gideonstactical]

Will do!

[@shanecabbage2187]

I read most of these comments and noticed several mentions of Chinese D2 being crap, some mention that any Chinese blade is crap. Interesting since almost every decent to good quality knife under $70 and many under $100 are made in China. China definitely makes a ton of trash, but they also produce some of the finest products we use. Country of origin guarantees nothing. (Yes, it pains me to type this)

[@robertspringer5370]

This Swisstech Gerundet is on clearance at Walmart for 17.00. Good knife for price in AUS 8.

[@KdiLL11]

Just bought one today! Thanks for the heads up!

[@Equinox051256]

As with all steels, the heat treatment makes all of the difference. All D2's are not created equal.

[@sturgis97]

100% agree

[@Gojimaru]

They are equal in that they're all shit. Some are watery and some are well baked in the sun but they're still shit.

[@richardmyracle6198]

$16. I can't pass that up. I visit family 4 times a year for a week each time. I travel carry-on so I don't have my knife and I miss it. I ordered and shipped it. Now I have a knife when I visit. Can't go wrong at that price.

[@wrandy593]

I've always liked knives as a hobby and am glad to have found this channel. I've subscribed

[@gideonstactical]

Welcome aboard!

[@olivierbatiste6035]

According to the review this knife seems to be decent. But, when it comes to budget friendly D2 steel knives, I'd go with Ganzo all the time. Their D2 is proven to be real, and hardened properly to 59-60HRC. Even their 440C is okay, not as good as their D2, but okay.

[@frankbrowning328]

This is truly impressive for $15.00. I've got no problem with an assisted knife. I've heavily used an assisted Kershaw SS Volt since it was introduced many years ago (at least 12yrs) and it still works great.

[@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223]

I remember my first camp knife and it was a mossy oak full tang with a gut hook. Thought it was a great badass blade until I tried to stick it into a tree and the blade broke right in half. That's what started my journey on better fixed blades and now it's a straight up addiction. Have between 30-40 fixed blades from Buck to Esee to Mora to many others. Although I was pissed the blade broke in half I definitely learned a lot from that $20 knife. Can't say I'll ever buy another one branded Mossy Oak though.

[@Ono-Lin_Tam]

My favorite folders are my Ontario Rat-1 and Rat-2, both in D2. I like assisted openings, it's a nice feature, but not necessary for me. I think of assisted opening as a bonus in a folding knife. I keep my OKC Rat-1 in my Helikon-Tex Raccoon Mk2 backpack and my OKC Rat-2 in my EDC belt, which, as a Batman fan, I call my utility belt. I hope to get more such OKC folders soon to have extras before they're gone and end up being auctioned for a seriously high price like many OKC fixed blades nowadays. The Rat-2 is in a pouch instead of my pocket, because it's a backup, my primary is Victorinox RangerGrip 78.

[@gregblake2764]

Where did you even find this knife? I don't bother to look at gas station knives because the few times I have they were all junk. Thanks for reminding me to go pick up a couple of the Schrade knives to have on hand to gift to young workers who don't have much other than great work ethic and manners. Those kinds of guys are getting harder to find. Another fun review.

[@gregbarry5875]

The Buck 285 Bantom and 110 LT, and the KaBar Dozier are also solid options from well known brands for under $30.

[@MiklosBencsik]

I'm still going to cry quality lol. But this is very interesting on how the prices are driving down so much

[@EDCandLace]

That tells you how loose the heat treat is... d2 can fluctuate wildly with just 50 degrees F of temp difference in the ovens. 57 to 62 is likely possible considering they are heat treating prob 5000 blades at once and there could be 200 degree variations of temp difference in the oven. That could certainly create a +-2.5 Rockwell on a 59.5 targets.. ide be willing to bet that most would be in the 57-59 range but there is almost guaranteed to be some out there that are way harder. However hardness says only one part of heat treat quality... if every piece was 62hrc everyone would be so happy but if the micro structure is terrible due to the heat treat quality than that 62hrc d2 is gonna perform absolutely terrible. Remember Rockwell is only one part of the equation..

[@maxlvledc]

Srm makes another $20 ish knife with amazing handle and 8cr13mov. I really like it..but for a little more there are definitely better knives around $30

[@LunarEclipsism1]

My favorite crossbar lock knife is the Real Steel Huginn, I'd love to see a review of that on this channel. Kind of the midway point between these knives and the Benchmade echelon, they retail for under $100 but have pretty high-end fit and finish. The Huginn is like a bigger sturdier bugout that doesn't break the bank. The black and gold version from KnifeCenter is a especially nice-looking, but all of the variants are pretty cool.

[@nycbike73]

When the person in China is being paid a few cents an hour you can sell a knife for $16

[@clintonlewis1261]

I,ll have to check this one out .

[@techie13804]

Really cool knife. I just wish amazon realized that New York State is more than NYC. They won't ship ANY folding knife here.

[@bojansiljanoski7781]

great video once again, keep up the amazing work

[@gideonstactical]

Thanks, will do!

[@Justcanyon]

I got a Gerber years ago it was my first with a cross bar lock it had assisted opening, at first it was neat but getting other crossbar knives without assisted opening now that one seems pretty lame like it’s so cool to pull the lock down and just swing that blade back in💁🏼😂 6:01

[@K3VINM]

Can you do a review of the TOPS Atax axe, or a review of the CRKT Catchall knife

[@kathleensmith370]

some much competition in the low budget market right now

[@danielruthven2739]

Check out the Crescent tools knife, CPK350A. 3 1/2 inch d2 blade, harpoon shape, ball berings in the pivot. Deep ride loop over clip with reseced screws. Aluminum handles linerlock flipper. It is heavy, but i like a solid beefy knife. It is on Amazon for 15 but i picked one up at Menards for 6.99. Icould not belive it, i thought it was a mistake, but that is what it rang up as. Good deal for a solid knife. I dont know who is making them but it looks like a civivi with that ct logo in the pivot.

[@thomasmaloney843]

Credible effort.

[@Bethany415]

Enjoyed the video. Kabar is selling off their remaining BK-40s in D2 for $30 if that interests anyone.

[@nickp66104]

Good shit man

[@jasonbrazier2864]

Where I can only find the Aus 8s. Thanks

[@mtnmnkymilitia]

Hard to beat the Sencuts ive gotten on closeout for $5-7 more...

[@MiklosBencsik]

I wonder if the heat treat us up to the usual snuff

[@chrisjosekuehl]

They make a 4” blade one, it’s 7cr steel but still super affordable at under $20

[@elevatorman7750]

Great video

[@gideonstactical]

Thanks!

[@gearaustralia8767]

Wow, hard to beat on price and not too shabby 😎✌️✌️

[@gideonstactical]

You got that right!

[@mistersmith3986]

After almost losing a finger to an Axis lock, I'll NEVER buy a knife with the same type of lock. I do on the other hand commend Mossy Oak for going with D2 though. Thanx for the video my Bladed Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲

[@GhostManOnSixtieth]

What’s the story? Did the lock fail?

[@mistersmith3986]

@@GhostManOnSixtieth Yeah, it failed badly.

[@hellhound2260]

You should try ganzo's crossbar locks, they're the best.

[@CadillacDriver]

Not at all.

[@BloodyMeridianM8]

Worst part is the MO logo lol, also your right that hrc is a big gap between

[@LaurelisCroatorum]

The blade is completely identical to the ganzo Fh11 model

[@eyeofthetiger4184]

G'day Aaron, I quite like it, yeah the Rockwell range is ridiculous and the other two are far more interesting, though if you just want knife ....... there is knife. I don't have a problem with assisted, though I'm pretty sure, like autos, they're illegal here. In any event, not sure why they bothered with this one, personally I'd swap that for bronze washers. Cheers Duke. P.S. have you seen anything budget worthy from Ganzo recently ?

[@joelluper2080]

for me assisted is a deal breaker, but i have a friend who loves assisted knives

[@sturgis97]

For a cheap knife, I would probably go with Civivi

[@DragonsinGenesisPodcast]

That’s 4x the price. Hardly the same price range.

[@sturgis97]

@@DragonsinGenesisPodcast if you gotta have a $15-$16 knife get a small Mora at least you know the quality and heat treat is good. Otherwise save up another week or two for a knife that has a good reputation and you know for sure what the steel is and the company puts out quality products

[@davidgierlinger4689]

Can't order anything that flips open from Amazon in Western New York

[@gideonstactical]

Dang that sucks

[@marklemist6928]

You must have a bunch of savages living there. Luckily I live in the United States.

[@Primeval5]

This knife will be a terrific suggestion for my buddies who aren't that into pocket knives

[@hawktv4508]

Aaron sir what edge angle do you recommend sharpening your survival knives to? I have a Ursas in 3v

[@gideonstactical]

Usually 20 degrees each Side but you could do 17 degrees if you don’t baton a lot?

[@hawktv4508]

@@gideonstactical Thank you. I will do 20 degrees then because I feel like it will hold that edge better. I put a 17 on it and it’s wicked sharp but it rolls easily.

[@Youtube-Censorship-Police]

i doubt that this is d2 but the blade grind is very clean.

[@shanecabbage2187]

Been watching your vids and others. I am about to pull the trigger on the Kizer Baby for EDC on the coast of Florida (hot humid salt air and more than a bit of perspiration). Is there anything that competes with the baby in this price range ($60) that does not have a coated blade? Thank you for all you do. I respect all opinions, so everyone, please chime in.

[@gideonstactical]

Not sure that should work!

[@shanecabbage2187]

@@gideonstactical Thanks for the response. And, again, thank you for your amazing content. God bless.

[@vog7271]

❤

[@steely_mike]

To be able to scratch the itch for under 20 I’m in

[@mtnmnkymilitia]

At least these great Chinese knives are actually getting cheaper in this wack economy

[@demo2952]

I rockwelled a $30 twosun ts 111 in D2 and it came out at 62 hrc….

[@mistersmith3986]

This right here proves my argument that Kershaw has NO business infecting their knives with 8CR crap anymore.

[@gideonstactical]

Hahaha!!!!!

[@tacticalcenter8658]

D2 is often not much better than 8cr due to heat treatment.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

8cr and d2 is decent when using the proper ht protocols and hardness. But no one in China is doing that.

[@mistersmith3986]

@@tacticalcenter8658 Maybe the D2 knives YOU own. But I don't have that problem.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

@@mistersmith3986 what I have said is a proven fact. Can you back that up with facts? No you can't.

[@demo2952]

I can rockwell it at work and report back…

[@frederikkaltebra7967]

Sadly for me the assisted opening is a deal breaker because it's forbidden in my country 😂. Second one is a deal breaker cause it's a hollow grind and a bitch to sharpen. Third one I could actually go for but you have to like the shape. Difficult all around.

[@gideonstactical]

Not a hollow but I get it

[@scottburns5242]

Most assist open knives can have the spring removed. The assist is a dumb gimmick anyway.

[@frederikkaltebra7967]

I just found your video for the silent hero 4. Many thanks. I am already a happy customer and just placed the order🎉.@@gideonstactical

[@JoeJoe-gq5ff]

Chinese d2 is very chippy

[@joelluper2080]

and i would always tale d2 over aus8....always

[@rotaman8555]

This knife is $17.99 at the best I can find it on Amazon and the link you showed is $19. Seems like inflation is making things more expensive by the minute.

[@REB4444]

Juts goes to show you that knives don't need to be so expensive. Yes, quality control is crucial but not at a 1500%-2000% cost increase compared to these. It becomes a fanboy status symbol that's just not needed.

[@LordThree]

I got a mossy oak bowie on Amazon because it was so cheap and had good reviews. It’s kinda crap. I probably won’t buy anything from them again no matter how good the value might be. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@hificat101]

I just dont get people making assisted opening knives in 2024. Why? I mean are there people that actually think it makes a knife open faster or easier? And all it costs is your ability to easily close the knife. Every single time you close it forever. I wonder if you could give the knife an assisted opening-ectomy?

[@CuttingBoardRx]

Have you taken it apart yet? Kershaw Layup has the same functionality where it doesn’t even feel like an assisted knife and I’m wondering if one could de-assist this knife just as easily? kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2bGYXyNrr2rptk

[@krefcenz]

another cross bar lock knife with no left hand position for the pocket clip. Makes no sense. It's drilling a couple of holes.

[@DTAP17]

You'll have to understand left handers are an extreme minority

[@Powernoodle_]

Lefties are mutants. Why make a knife for mutants?

[@NPonlamuangsri]

Man I couldn’t agree more. There’s no reason for having an ambidextrous lock, but one position for the pocket clip.

[@LTT.Official]

Left handed people don't matter

[@abwdagreat]

Fuck left handers

[@thronesarchangelaushurel4169]

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[@anthonyrollins9825]

anybody that chooses 8cr13mov or Aus8 over D2 doesn't deserve my viewership.

[@snotshovelinfection305]

You are ignoring and deleting my comments... Review the fricken flissa 9 inch please

[@gideonstactical]

Definitely not deleting your comments. I never delete them unless they are really obscene. I have it and I’m in the process of testing. It should see a review before the end of the month.

[@snotshovelinfection305]

@@gideonstactical I apologize man... I comment and ask questions to so many KZbinrs and never get a response... Thank you, love the content and keep up the good work

[@rafybassilious8390]

For 16 dollars that d2 must be super soft

[@gideonstactical]

Not as bad as you might think 🤔