When is Marriage Null? Part 1: Introduction

[@jamespatrickskelton437]

Keep on posting. Soon I am studying for a licentiate in canon law. Thanks for refreshing my memory. Cheers, Fr. James Skelton.

[@AnnulmentProof]

All tribunals in the USA use an illegal (essential love) definition of marriage.

[@AnnulmentProof]

@@christinaann8193 yes, what grounds are you thinking of?

[@AnnulmentProof]

@@jamespatrickskelton437 question for your professor: if the legal essence of marriage is objective / unchanging, why does jurisprudence determine what it is?

[@christinaann8193]

@@AnnulmentProof is there somewhere I can message you privately?

[@budjeansonne4482]

I'm confused. How can you annul something that doesn't exist in the first place?

[@Shakeninthewind]

As far as I know it is simply a clarification from authority of something that did not take place from the beginning. But I’m no canon lawyer.

[@MrGus.1]

The Church merely states that a marriage never exists. The Church does not annul the marriage.

[@budjeansonne4482]

@@MrGus.1 If that is so then why do they call it an annulment?

[@MrGus.1]

​@budjeansonne4482 Ha! Precisely because it is an annulment! The Church declares the marriage did not exist.

[@lambertthongnirit3150]

Thank you father. God bless you always

[@JGULLIF]

Can someone explain to me how the thrice married Newt Gingrich got married in the church with his girlfriend from his SECOND marriage (who was the girlfriend from his FIRST marriage)?

[@m_d1905]

Money talks, even in the RCC.

[@AdaraBalabusta]

My speculation would be that he was declared not psychologically mature when he married the first wife (he was age 19 per his Wikipedia page). The second marriage was probably declared null because he had no intention to be faithful. Again, this is my speculation. The third marriage does appear to be sacramental in nature. HTH.

[@Malachor8091]

The Church can annual any marriage if the price is right. Got two kids with first wife, no problem, pay the fee.

[@MrGus.1]

​@Malachor8091 Maybe just a technicality, but no one can annul a valid marriage...not even the Pope. The Church can state that a marriage never existed.

[@AnnulmentProof]

One can marry / divorce/anull as many times as they want in the USA Catholic Church, bcz if the relationship hits the rocks, that's proof of incapacity for "interpersonal relationship of life and love." The spirit of Vatican 2 changed the legal definition of consent..

[@richardwalker1405]

Thank you❤

[@sdraper2011]

Interesting, looking forward to more. My question is: how does a lay person pay for canon law school?? I understand orders usually pay for it for their members, but it's prohibitively expensive for lay people, especially at a time when the Church keeps saying they desperately need more canon lawyers.

[@canonlaw101]

In the US, I can’t imagine studying it without a diocese sponsoring, but the costs in Europe are much more feasible, e.g. a year of tuition at the Gregorian is only around $3000.

[@sdraper2011]

​@@canonlaw101 Is that PUG?

[@canonlaw101]

Yes, the Pontificia Università Gregoriana. I imagine the Angelicum and Santa Croce (both in Rome) have prices similar to that.

[@ladyfreedomsrawnarratives]

Thank you Father!

[@canonlaw101]

@THE BHSC 1 Cor 4:15 "In Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel."

[@JuanARivera-z9d]

Advoiding the sacrament of penance reconciliation

[@JohnParks-zc1pn]

When is a marriage null? A strong hint is when it was performed by a Catholic priest, because over 90% of petitions for declaration of nullity are granted by the church. We need to adopt the practice followed in much of Europe and Central and South America, which is that religious marriage is not recognized, and that only civil marriages are valid. Indeed, in France, a priest is prohibited from performing a religious marriage unless he is first presented with the couple's civil marriage certificate.

[@AnnulmentProof]

Your first line was good

[@yj3147]

One week after my wedding at the church, I found my husband cheated 9 months before the wedding, while we were in a long distance relationship, and right before he proposed to me. He was cheating for a month, and quit before the propose. I felt so betrayed. But I tried to live with him for 4 months since it was marriage at the church. But I could endure my pain and anger. We are currently physically separated. Is it possible to null my marriage? I couldn’t prevent myself from being mad at him, and deeply depressed… I quit my job due to the depression…..

[@mrloski2915]

I hope so, what did you find out?

[@MrGus.1]

Lady, you need neither a divorce nor an annulment. You need to forgive! There are zero blameless spouses out there....zero. Forgiveness is the essential part of every marriage. Trust me. I've been in a successful marriage of two sinners for 58 years.

[@ramsesramos4502]

If something of high matter was concealed that could have resulted in a different outcome and was not presented to you before the vows took place, you have a very strong case to present to the priest and tribunal

[@mylifeforthelord5535]

God bless you, greetings from Germany! Please do more videos!

[@mylifeforthelord5535]

@Sayyid 'Abbās Yes brother! :)

[@davf0789]

Nice job Father!

[@Malachor8091]

The Catholic position about divorce and annulment has zero to do with the Bible, but a lot to do with control and money. Research Ted Kennedy and his annulment.

[@michaelsayen4360]

Marriages in the Old Testament did not need approval from the priests. However, it was subject to law. It was presumed valid unless challenged. Thanks. Great words of encouragement

[@AdaraBalabusta]

True. In addition, for good and sufficient cause (the definition of which varied over time), divorce with the possibility of remarriage for both parties was allowed.

[@michaelsayen4360]

@@AdaraBalabusta no. Women were never allowed to divorce and remarry. It has been that way for most of history. Women weren’t allowed to divorce in England till 1857. That is because, the woman is under her husband’s rule, subject to him, and under the law of her husband (Gen. 3:16). The church allowing women to divorce for adultery or abuse is new for the church. That is, because it is not allowed in scripture

[@Malachor8091]

​@michaelsayen4360 But men were allowed to do anything including adultery. You could ask Ted Kennedy if he was alive.

[@michaelsayen4360]

@@Malachor8091 men were not allowed to commit adultery. If adultery happened, both the man and woman were to die. Marriages were unilateral. Only the man made a promise for marriage. The woman was acquired through the bride price. Marriages were not designed to be bilateral (conditional). Because of this, men were able to marry more than one wife. Women were under the husband’s rule (the law of the husband). It was not adultery for a married man to sleep with an unmarried woman. It was adultery for a man to sleep with a married woman. It was looked at as stealing. Therefore, a married man sleeping (or marrying) another woman, that was not married, was not adultery according to scripture.

[@iNdUsTrIaLrOcKeR4U]

Annulments are ONLY a need in extremes. A forced marriage or one party in the marriage has hidden and hideous designs against the other. Not loopholes spun by the worms. Not to escape the responsibility one owes HIM most, deed.

[@AdaraBalabusta]

Yes. Unless one of the parties deliberately deceived the other, as was the case with Edward Kennedy and his unfortunate wife, Joan: he never had the intention to be faithful per his own comments.

[@JuanARivera-z9d]

Avoiding the sacrament of penance

[@judeb8252]

Eaaaa Mann how r ya it judeeee

[@ChessContentTimely]

Hi jude

[@infomeee9459]

Hello father

[@iNdUsTrIaLrOcKeR4U]

The Canon Laws were written because HIS priests could not hear HIM. Plane and Plain, LOST.

[@AnnulmentProof]

There is nothing in the Bible pertaining to annulment.

[@MrGus.1]

True.

[@Lancer-y5g]

True. The annulment system mocks the Creed “in accordance with the scriptures”

[@AnnulmentProof]

@@Lancer-y5g before 1965, false. After 1965, true bcz the "personalistic norm" contradicts Scripture.

[@daviatejasu8431]

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. Your presentation is very pleasent, going doing many videos. May God bless you.

[@iNdUsTrIaLrOcKeR4U]

prophets were given the right to speak to the priests. i the long and short of it, MOST.

[@ChristianTrinity411]

If your spouse abandons you, and marries another, that is when a marriage is nullified. The abandoned party is then free to remarry with God's blessing.

[@ChristianTrinity411]

@@helloman1051 If I ain’t seen her in fifteen years, by her design, we ain’t married.

[@jacobkalee]

@@ChristianTrinity411 That's not how it works with God. It's about the validity at the time of the vows. Canon lawyer explains annulments here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIaqZYZoZsZrprM

[@johnmcdonough8038]

Wrong!!! It doesn't matter if your spouse abandons you. If it was a valid sacramental marriage from the beginning, it is still valid and binding.

[@grant2149]

Wrong!!

[@noni-ayannaroach8180]

@delbert372- I saw that in the Bible too

[@iNdUsTrIaLrOcKeR4U]

The HOLY SPIRIT is ALONE the TEACHER. HE likes me for some reason, can NOT explain. Though i am a wretch only.

[@aravindmanu7576]

とうございます」、

[@williamwarrenconkright3973]

God decides not the catholics

[@superiorshotgun4348]

God established the Catholic Church

[@Malachor8091]

@@superiorshotgun4348 Christ established His church, not the Catholic Church.

[@superiorshotgun4348]

@@Malachor8091 Catholic Church is His Church😂😂😂

[@iNdUsTrIaLrOcKeR4U]

Holy Matrimony is a man and woman united in CHRIST. Even if not seeing so. Or an abomination MOST. There is only one human marriage as in CHRIST the same. EVER.

[@AnnulmentProof]

If you can make babies, you have capacity to consent.

[@MrGus.1]

Mmmmm....not categorically true, but there is a kernel of truth in what you staye.

[@AnnulmentProof]

@@MrGus.1 what else does a spouse need capacity for besides baby making?

[@AnnulmentProof]

​@@MrGus.1hello?

[@MrGus.1]

@@AnnulmentProof I do not think reducing individuals to their barest potentials serves this discussion. The sacrament of marriage is, indeed, in its essence "a deal", but it was created by God to give grace and provide the partners help in getting to heaven. Yes, we make babies, but today, so do mad scientists. Stripping away the beauty, splendor and romance of marriage is like what Prorestanrs have done to scripture when they strip it from the Church from whence it came. John, you are examining marriage through binoculars constructed of soda straws.

[@ajlouviere202]

These scriptures should help answer your questions about the importance of covenants: Joshua 9:11-14: 11So our elders and all the inhabitants of our country spoke to us, saying, ‘Take provisions in your hand for the journey, and go to meet them, and say to them, “We are your servants; now then, make a covenant with us.”’ 12This bread of ours was hot when we took it for our provisions from our houses on the day that we left to come to you; but now behold, it is dry and has become crumbled. 13And these wineskins which we filled were new, and behold, they are split open; and these clothes of ours and our sandals are worn out from the very long journey.” 14So the men of Israel took some of their provisions, and did not ask for the counsel of the LORD. 15And Joshua made peace with them and made a covenant with them, to let them live; and the leaders of the congregation swore an oath to them. 16However, it came about at the end of three days after they had made a covenant with them, that they heard that they were neighbors and that they were living within their land. 17Then the sons of Israel set out and came to their cities on the third day. Now their cities were Gibeon, Chephirah, Beeroth, and Kiriath-jearim. 18But the sons of Israel did not attack them because the leaders of the congregation had sworn to them by the LORD, the God of Israel. And the whole congregation grumbled against the leaders. 19But all the leaders said to the whole congregation, “We have sworn to them by the LORD, the God of Israel, and now we cannot touch them. 20This we will do to them, even let them live, so that wrath will not be on us because of the oath which we swore to them.” 21So the leaders said to them, “Let them live.” And they became gatherers of firewood and labor to draw water for the whole congregation, just as the leaders had spoken to them. 2 Samuel 21:1-2: 1Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David sought the presence of the LORD. And the LORD said, “It is because of Saul and his bloody house, because he put the Gibeonites to death.” 2So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them (now the Gibeonites were not of the sons of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites, and the sons of Israel had made a covenant with them, but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the sons of Israel and Judah). Malachi 2:13-16: 13And this is another thing you do: you cover the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping and sighing, because He no longer gives attention to the offering or accepts it with favor from your hand. 14Yet you say, “For what reason?” Because the LORD has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you have dealt treacherously, though she is your marriage companion and your wife by covenant. 15But not one has done so who has a remnant of the Spirit. And why the one? He was seeking a godly offspring. Be careful then about your spirit, and see that none of you deals treacherously against the wife of your youth. 16“For I hate [divorce,” says the LORD, the God of Israel, “and him who covers his garment with violence,” says the LORD of armies. “So be careful about your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously.” Galatians 3:15-17: 15Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man’s covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. 16Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ. 17And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect. Romans 1:28-32: 28And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful: 32who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practise such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practise them.