When Loud Music Turned Deadly | Op-Docs | The New York Times

This video tells the story of Jordan Davis, a black teenager in Florida who was killed by a white man, Michael Dunn, after an argument over loud music. The slain youth's father shares his loss.
Read the story here: nyti.ms/1frGZMH
Subscribe on KZbin: bit.ly/U8Ys7n
Watch more videos at: nytimes.com/video
---------------------------------------------------------------
Want more from The New York Times?
Twitter: / nytvideo
Facebook: / nytimes
Google+: plus.google.com/+nytimes/
Whether it's reporting on conflicts abroad and political divisions at home, or covering the latest style trends and scientific developments, New York Times video journalists provide a revealing and unforgettable view of the world. It's all the news that's fit to watch. On KZbin.
When Loud Music Turned Deadly | Op-Docs | The New York Times
/ thenewyorktimes

[@odnalro40]

Dude is obviously lying in his police interview.

[@avacadomangobanana2588]

@Un welcomeend if someone threatens you with death, and you retaliate by murdering them, that’s not defense that’s retaliation

[@redfirebonus9408]

@Un welcomeend he was not threatened that testimony was contradicted

[@antgreen3865]

@piet hd stop jumping to conclusions

[@corybowman9583]

Why? Because he is white? Lol Black people always tell the truth. Lol

[@RobertaPeck]

As a parent, my heart goes out to you in this sad loss of your son.

[@mcmagiccracker]

His mama was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2018

[@SHAD0WZOMBIE]

Hopefully your kids don't go down the shotgun slinging, death-threat hollering hoodlum road

[@craigbenefiel9350]

READ & STUDY MY COMMENTS ON OUR HUMAN! BEHAVIOR.. YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING ON WHY I DONT CARE ABOUT HUMANS. JUST READ THEM I DONE HEARING EXCUSES.

[@ATP2555ify]

"Black kid play the shooty bang music. I had to defend myself."

[@lunalotus4013]

It's really sad to know that I went to school with Jordan in marietta g.a. and he was one my bestfriends that I grew up with. When I heard about this I felt very broken. But I know he's doing better in heaven because he really was a true angel.

[@Raedein]

People tend to over-glorify the deceased. No one on earth is truly an “angel”…Mostly sinners….Pretty sure he partly instigated the situation whether he was in the right or wrong whether people want to admit or not.

[@lunalotus4013]

Yea you can keep your degrading comment to yourself. As a child he was a good kid. Dont talk on people who you don't even know about.

[@blackdollar2009]

Who gave this white man the authority to take the law in his own hands to order these young men to turn down their music? I personally believe he provoked this situation!!

[@crand20033]

Nope, Davis instigated it. The white man finished argument with his gun.

[@concentratecorner1744]

Asking someone to nicely turn it down is no issue, though you cant force them to do anything. Loud music is actually a ticketable offense in some areas, mine included, but that doesnt mean they should die for that. No one gave the guy authority to take the law into his own hands, he assumed that himself..Isnt that obvious? He was ultimately convicted to life after a retrial in oct 2014

[@dav0n]

Blackdollar2013 TRUMP

[@Ghosty716]

@@crand20033 how’s that possible when the white man started the argument?? You heard him say HE stopped by their car which means HE started it and decided to shoot a child. Hope he rots in prison 😁

[@ATP2555ify]

@@Ghosty716 He makes music now, listen to his track. "Excuse Me, Can You Turn Dat Down"

[@ray_ayy]

JSC Criminal Psychology did a great video on this. The guy literally fled the state afterwards. It’s disgusting. He knew what he did was wrong. He murdered a child, and the law protected him.

[@MadamePianissima]

??? You do know hes serving life in prison right?

[@ATP2555ify]

He didn't flee the state. He fled to central Florida.

[@donaldoeliaselias3541]

@@MadamePianissima You really think that makes up for the injustice he purposefully caused? What is wrong with you kind of people in trying to find every which-way to justify or minimize the hateful actions of whites?

[@davidaraujo57558]

Who protected him? He was arrested when he turned himself in. He was denied bond and than given life.

[@user-ff3vi1je6u]

you on here spreading misinformation .. no wonder you didn’t respond to no one’s comment 💀

[@nanaprt61]

Man. Its tough being black in America. But gosh, why pull a gun on a innocent kid. Just speed away

[@crand20033]

And leave your fiancee in the store.

[@wolfone1214]

@@crand20033 he left her anyway.

[@ozdorothyfan]

Speed away from what? Loud music?

[@DC-nc9cn]

Definately not innocent, the kid was arrogant and inconsiderate. I only feel bad for his family.

[@SHAD0WZOMBIE]

The kids had a shotgun incase anyone forgot....

[@emilyhancock3456]

this is so freaking messed up

[@Iddybud]

This didn't have to happen and it surely shouldn't be defended by law. The story of the senseless killing of Jordan Davis should make every last one of us - every mother and father - strong advocates for the END of Stand Your Ground laws. He could have been your beloved son. Too easy to pull a trigger in anger or fear beyond reason when you think the law will back you up.

[@AvgJane19]

+

[@greeneggz_n_ham]

But Jude, this particular thing couldn't have happened to anybody's son. It's unfortunate that we have to instruct our children to try to prevent them being killed because they walk outside because of the color of their skin. We have a history in this country of this happening to certain people's children and the law has defended it, over and over and over and over again. This happens to people of color in this country at an astronomical rate and the law has defended it overwhelmingly and throughout history. This isn't new for us. Our lives aren't valued here. Our children's lives aren't valued here. That's what the idea of "Black Lives Matter" came out of. This is a pattern, this is historical pattern. And it's so common that it's been normalized and, unfortunately, backed up by the precedent of law. Our lives aren't legally protected here, which means we are non-citizens. Despite the fact that we pay taxes here and try to participate in the political process, if allowed.

[@sushirollthug]

This quickly turned into the dumbest thing ever written

[@brianelliott8861]

Wow his dad or whoever that was speaking is a strong individual

[@big92fs]

That sucks, poor kid and father. His father looks like a very good person.

[@chipsdad5861]

It must have been so painful to sit in the court room and listen to the defense say all those untrue statements about your son. I am so sorry for you loss and all the suffering.

[@lahuntasease5741]

This breaks my heart 💔💔💔My heart goes out to his parents. May the Lord continue to keep them covered.

[@kiarajackson1473]

rest in peace Jordan Davis! miss you.

[@coldwelthsimms5958]

I could tell just by how he gave his testimony that man is guilty

[@Thewhimsicalmusingsofsusan]

That's abuse of The Stand Your Ground Law. I won't say that the man is a racist, but he overreacted by shooting at people, without being absolutely sure that he saw a weapon. He was trigger happy. The killer left the scene after the shooting without even calling the police. This is such a sad story. Even if Jordan's killer spent the rest of his life in prison, there would be no justice for that child and his family.

[@Thewhimsicalmusingsofsusan]

cassl14 Really? I need additional information, aside from what is provided in this video to come to that conclusion. Other than the fact that he is white, and killed a black person, where is the evidence that he is racist? Did he SAY something that would lead you to believe that he is racist? If you have that information, I would like to know it. You may be right. Or, you may be wrong. Thank you.

[@Thewhimsicalmusingsofsusan]

Him saying that he doesn't like thug music is not evidence that the man is a racist. It's an opinion. What does so-called "thug music" have to do with race and ethnicity? If people were sent to prison on opinions, most of the world population would be underneath the prison. So long story short, you don't know and you're guessing. Thanks for trying.

[@Thewhimsicalmusingsofsusan]

"Thug music is black music"??? That's like saying that all black people enjoy (or that they are suppossed to) listening to gangsta rap and Hip Hop. LOL. Seems like you're buying into AND espousing the racial and ethnic sterotypes. I am sure that you realize that so-called thug music is universal, just as Jazz is. There are Asian guys, who can't even speak English breakdancing to thug music and Hip Hop on the other side of the world at this very moment (and owning it). I won't even respond to the rest of your comment, since it's pure foolishness.

[@MTserenity101]

He says he is a racist. You people need to do a little research on the murder.

[@Thewhimsicalmusingsofsusan]

No kidding! This is old news now.

[@michaelj.kastner5165]

Dunn is the lowest form of life, all he had to do was leave

[@crand20033]

He was waiting on his fiance' who had gone into the store.

[@ATP2555ify]

@@crand20033 He could've moved his car

[@crand20033]

@@ATP2555ify The parking lot was full. Besides, why should he have to do that for some rascally punk kid who can't have the decency to turn his crappy gang written music with x-rated lyrics to a decent level and stop creating a nuisance for everyone else?

[@user-jt3kt8bs8l]

@@crand20033 pov: ur a racist white guy who wants to live in the 1800s

[@angelicx1610]

@@crand20033 michael could’ve been patient and waited for his wife to be done and they could’ve gotten out of there, he didn’t need to shoot jordan

[@KSS5]

This is Incredibly Sad, and there is a recent/similar incident involving a woman and her husband (both white), the husband was shot and killed in a movie theater Florida by another man (also white) that is a retired police officer who claimed he felt threatened. This is a Florida Law Issue!

[@mako2king609]

@N😍🥰🤷 exactly bruh 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@gabriellefloyd6904]

He needs to be in jail forever ..

[@ralfievaldes343]

Nope that jungle music sucks

[@JJS595]

@@ralfievaldes343 So ur saying Dunn doesn’t deserve to be in jail forever shooting 4 innocent teenagers in a car?

[@ralfievaldes343]

@@JJS595 what are you talking about

[@JJS595]

@@ralfievaldes343 The original comment said he needs to be in jail forever and you said nope, that jungle music sucks?

[@stewartlawgroup]

It's criminal that this law remains on the book.

[@ATP2555ify]

@@browncatwithblurredbackgro2461 Yeah Dunn should've known better

[@RJ-jw8cq]

@@browncatwithblurredbackgro2461 do you not think that discharging 10 bullets into a moving vehicle is a bit more rude than playing some music loudly?

[@crand20033]

@@RJ-jw8cq How about JD shouting: "eF you and I'll play my gangster rap as loud as I want"; then turning it back up again even louder.

[@JerzyFeliksKlein]

2:04 when a note comes up saying it happened in Florida - ah, ok, that makes perfect sense...

[@trirex2547]

his mother, lucy mcbath, is now a representative in my state. shes great. she doesn't represent my district but im glad to see georgia electing someone like her.

[@ivelisseledesma5333]

God bless his soul ... 😪

[@Honeyydeuu]

Heartbreaking

[@isaiahw1995ify]

Why the guy cared if his music is too loud is what I don't get! He's not in the same car as the kid. They were probably only next to each other for a matter of minutes. He wanted to kill that kid.

[@crand20033]

+Isaiah The kid turned the so-called music back up. It was laced with obscenities and death threats. Disseminating obscenities is a crime. Disturbing the peace is crime. Communicating threats is a crime. Disruptive behavior is a crime.

[@ATP2555ify]

@@crand20033 And China rhymes with China.

[@crand20033]

@Pink and Black Girl If you disturb someone else's peace they might ask you to turn it down. If you deliberately turn it back up louder, the person will be even more disturbed and feel so disrespected he may get violent with you. If he is drunk with a gun you might be murdered. If you have a gun both of you may end up dead.

[@theresahall5141]

@@crand20033 and if he had a problem he could have called the cops to deal with it. He was only going have to put up with till the girlfriend came out and then he probably never see them again and unfortunately vulgar language isn't against the law because the courts have already ruled on that.

[@crand20033]

@@theresahall5141 He brought this murder on himself. He provoked a drunk man who happened to have a gun. May if his mom had taught him some manners he would still be alive. All he had to do was say: "Sorry man, I'll turn the music down for ya, have nice day" Instead of that he turned the profanity laced, violent lyric music written by Chicago gang members back up and said eff you.

[@deluxewaterless7229]

Such a sad and tragic case. RIP Jordan.

[@tooDEEPtx]

You are correct, thought the struggle and pain the goal is to now keep the people divided! ↓↑

[@iseeeverything]

People calling jordan davis arrogant and a punk lol. stop acting like most teenagers don't act up from time to time. Dude looked like a cool guy to be around

[@tupac280001]

NOV. 8TH,2018 JORDAN DAVIS' MOTHER IS NOW REP. ---- ELECT LUCY MCBATH (D) GA 6TH DIST. OF US HOUSE OF REP.

[@avacadomangobanana2588]

🥰🥰🥰

[@howelln13]

"Kill em" at that point he could of drove off? He engaged he's at fault, and he's lying threw his teeth!

[@crand20033]

+Nathan Howell Hey dumb-ass, he could not drive off. His wife to be was in the store. He was being harassed by a bunch of juvenile delinquents. Crime committed by Davis: 'disturbing the peace', communicating threats, 'disseminating obscenities', 'disorderly conduct', 'disruptive behavior. Not to mention he had a cell phone in his hand while pointing at Dunn.

[@howelln13]

+David Crandall Everyone has their point of view..

[@crand20033]

+Nathan Howell And some people research and get all the facts of a case before opening their dumb mouth about it.

[@proudtobeme9059]

David Crandall bruh they didn’t even have a gun so were they really delinquents

[@cocolove9916]

OMG Bye exactly!

[@renellahoward]

This is really sad We live in America where its freedom of speech. Thats one law u are entitled too. I have two sons im afraid for them. This kind of act has too stop.

[@crand20033]

Yeah freedom of speech but there are a lot of things you can get arrested for saying. Trump just got in trouble for inciting a riot.

[@davidmason8611]

So sad.

[@Shaq756]

I feel sorry for the dad, he looks tough but as we see he is a gentle soul who had his heart torn,

[@JTchills]

So you’re telling me he made that entire story up and shot at their car for reason? Wtf is wrong with that guy. I’m hearing his story like how does any of that make sense.

[@garthlee3426]

So they gave you time to reach in your glovebox

[@ParrisAndrews14]

R.I.P ! This is crazy whats up with people these days

[@vegas9440]

I was just next to a motorcycle playing loud rock music. I started jamming along and dancing and then went about my business. I don’t listen to rock but who am I to tell someone to turn their music down

[@reaper8845]

Sad

[@ThenThereWere6]

only in florida

[@nazirasultanova5720]

Imaging being a normal teenager, hormones and all that, and being shot by a person for being a normal teenager. Black teens are not considered to be teens or children’s pre-adolescent age, that sick racist said he saw adult men. Do these children/teens have a chance to be? Some jurors believed it was self defence, people let’s sink that in. Am I the only one who thinks Jordan Davis was a normal teen who was doing normal teen stuff? That boy was in high school, I mean

[@nazirasultanova5720]

His parents wished for a child and got him after trying, and that p**ce of excuse took him away. No parent should outlive their children, especially with this circumstances, absolutely devastating thing to happen to a fellow human

[@ATP2555ify]

@@nazirasultanova5720 It's sad. Jordan was a one in a million chance, and now he's gone because of a grown man who thought using his gun was the best solution to a conflict with a child.

[@nazirasultanova5720]

@@ATP2555ify yes, absolutely agree with you

[@NuCenturyMisfits]

This is a sad story tho

[@CaroleMcDonnell]

ah gee

[@BUDDYSHADOW]

Blasting Loud Music!

[@hpt_huxtable7085]

Racism and prejudice are alive and well.

[@JohnnyKidder]

That is why you should never carry a gun. The discussion of whether that should be illegal involves other things. But is probable that the shooter actually feared for his life here, of course his racism played a big role in that, the threat existed only in his head, but he fired the gun just the same. There is many more instances of you being in a situation that you are sure you are going to get robbed or killed, but that doesn't end up happening, then you actually getting robbed or killed. But if you have a weapon at hand, you go for it.

[@11ozzielover]

It doesn't matter that the shooter was white or the kid was black. It matters that an adult thought it was okay to shoot a kid who was just listening to music. It matters that the gun laws are so messed up that it's actually legal to carry it with you, even when there's obviously something wrong with you.

[@Strange087]

When he comes on to explain why he did it at the 1 minute mark.....🙄 I just fckn looked @ him like this 😶

[@MrBcompton24]

Wow... This amazes me. What has this world come to? Regardless of race in this situation..... no wait if the shoe was on the other foot and the role was reversed, and the black man killed a white kid in that exact same situation he would be found guilty in a trial that last 2 days and get the death penalty. But since the middle aged white guy says he felt like his life was in danger with no evidence to back his theroy... #stunned

[@MrMIDWEST323213]

People never know what they are about to encounter.

[@ottomansslap838]

Poor world...how a human can overreact like this??wtf is wrong with todays people??r.i.power

[@Pink_Scarab]

The audacity

[@banana_man_joe69]

Hey that is my cousins cousin so how do you think i feel i feel sad i canot believe someone killed my cousin because he played music this world is not good

[@blkstone5272]

Florida...stand your ground.

[@meanvecktor1900]

When he goes to jail he’s will soon realize who’s the prey behind bars

[@crand20033]

It wasn't hip hop music. It was gangsters rap with lyrics unsuitable for 17 year olds lacking parental guidance.

[@novidostellem]

are the people commenting on this video American? It's a free country, you can dress HOWEVER you want, listen to WHATEVER you want, and express yourself FREELY without getting SHOT for doing so. It is in the CONSTITUTION. The fact that this case is about the GENRE of music, and his mode of dressing is exactly the reason behind this PREJUDICE that lurks in American society today. If all black people in America walked around wearing the Taekwondo Gi they will still get shot, or attacked, or insulted. Don't mistake this for ANYTHING else, asides pure RACISM.

[@BUDDYSHADOW]

He won't do that again.

[@royalbridge]

We all have freedoms and rights, but the moment we start to lose respect for each other, not giving a dam about one another, things like this happen, I myself am getting close to becoming a full blown racist after being now disrespected several times by black people at my job, the sad truth is that we've started to not care about others and have started to become more selfish by the day. Only this way of thinking has kept me going, but I seriously don't know how much long I can take it.

[@kattalady8114]

95% of bad things that have happened to me were from blacks.

[@user-jt3kt8bs8l]

No ur just racist

[@Moonsabie]

this is about how odd life can be. america is highly alienated where misinterpretations or bad judgment become deadly mostly its a lack of social skills paranoia and fear. welcome to america

[@TheThundercool]

And that's why there's a need for gun control in the US. This whole situation may've turn down differently if (supposing the old man was telling the truth) he didn't have a gun, and also he didn't have the assumption, quite normalised in the US, that the opposite side also have a gun. Of course, this is just my personal opinion based on the overall situation, leaving aside more specific and unknown details of the case.

[@invinoveritas6859]

Ain't nobody tryin to hear that that noisy schitt aighht !!!

[@boomboomboom9297]

Now the neighborhood is quieter.

[@roastmaster2000]

He was getting out to the car to assault someone as he got shot? Hardly the model citizen.

[@donaldfowler9314]

What about a'll the black on black here in all America. If your a man stand up for yourself and make the best of your life. We can't blame others for our mistakes. We all run the same color blood. This is just one killing compared to the thousands per day. I'm tired of all this racist craps going on. We are men. Lets stand up for our sins and overcome them. Amen! We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. Let us not forget.

[@benjaminking3103]

Killer bean anyone?

[@marksimmons3801]

mike was drunk and feeling like a cowboy !!!

[@browncatwithblurredbackgro2461]

Really? He was drunk? Usually its the drunk ones turning up the music.

[@andrepierce6713]

he had not rite blasting music on that white man..

[@carmenhishii3126]

Sometime I wonder if there is a Higher Power 😖😣😣😣

[@SHAD0WZOMBIE]

Problem is someone I know watched the whole incident INCLUDING the boys drive acrossed the street and drop the shotgun in the dumpster at the tire shop acrossed the street. The guy who watched this didn't "get involved because he had drugs in his pocket"....piece of crap

[@loso2751]

This is bs gtfoh

[@florinshc5283]

guns...you have them, you are tempted to use them. if that guy didn t have a gun... that boy would still listen to hip hop...or mumble rap at least...

[@crand20033]

Right why would you spend 300 dollars on something and not be tempted to use it for something other than a paperweight?

[@TheEmerald92]

was he playing chief keef.

[@crand20033]

Beef by Chicago gang banger Lil' Reece

[@mariesterlin3309]

Your son sounds like he was a wonderful person Ron.

[@wardellward]

He ain’t gettin out

[@georgesmith4724]

Where's the video from the gas station.

[@aidarhwite]

So because he doesnt like thug music hes racist? So your saying all black ppl are thugs nd listen to thug music? Hmmm whos really racist...

[@chocoleggs1]

***** it doesn't really matter at all what color he is it was wrong it is no excuse and it is racist just cause he don't like urban music doesn't give him the right

[@jblackmel]

Please tell me anywhere in my comment(s) where I said he was right and there was an excuse for him killing this kid?

[@tekeshatidwell2039]

hi

[@adamwest9177]

If this happened on feb 4th 2014 then why is the interogation dated 2012

[@nystmind]

this happened in 2012..... this story was put together by the NY Times in 2014, the trial just started !!!!

[@TeeTee941388]

Another travon Martin

[@joshuat5140]

Forgot about this case smh Rip this shouldn't have happened at All the man and women his wife should have left if the music is too loud to them smh there always have to be a bigger person and keep it pushing fr I'm 29 years old and I'm a white make and have lived in the poverty striken areas my whole life so loud music and bass people get in there car and I can understand maybe asking can you turn it down and if they do then ok if not? Than go on about your day the the man who shot that boy didn't know where or how says he was blackout drunk but they get in a verbal fight and older guy ends up shooting the cat killing 1 but others wounded?? Either way this is wrong

[@IntegraDIY]

They were playing Lil Terio OoOh Kill Em lmaoooo

[@Linda19816]

I feel sorry for all of us because we are screwed! This world is a mess and there is no way back!

[@kyadelavoka]

***** humans

[@4four20twenty]

FREE TRAYVONN!!

[@pimpintad]

Those baby vids get to ya a bit.

[@YoungShyne123]

Americans are now scared of loud music , the world is laughing at you

[@crand20033]

Loud rap music that is. It's used as torture in Afghan POW camps. Music torture has been common practice for the CIA ever since it began its "enhanced interrogation program" in the early 2000s. The process is designed to "create fear, disorient … and prolong capture shock" in prisoners.

[@invinoveritas6859]

Keep the noise pollution to yourself dog !! Some elderly got heart condition and schit,they dont need all that vibration on them.....

[@desnutz901]

I dont see anything about Jordan right now. Black lives matter.

[@Dissyuri]

If you're here for racial debate, please invest your time into social psychology. You can get ACTUAL answers on why people do things and why bias is the way it is when it is. Otherwise, you're just getting opinions.

[@IronicalSmirk]

Jordan was a cherished child, struggled for and long awaited. Just because there is so much divisive propaganda, forget that. Jordan was a much loved boy. There's nothing else you need to know and like any parent imagine how devastating it would be to lose your own...That is one strong Dad telling this story..I would be jumping off a bridge in his position. So just stop smearing his story and put yourself in someone else's shoes and be thankful you haven't suffered such profound loss. :(

[@lynnmarieanderson1744]

So sad. I feel bad that this kid lost his life, but to be really honest, there's ALOT of music out there these days that is very offensive to a lot of people. I'm not just targeting hip hop, there's songs out there by singers like Pink and Kesha with all this swearing going on, it's very prevalent. Older people in different generations just didn't have music like that. If you want to play all this angry vicious music with swear words, it's smart to keep your Windows closed on your car.

[@brendabarner1920]

Smdh

[@honz1284]

You guys notice the tape missing footage?

[@kenkel1]

He was just found not guilty in that case. Way to go Florida another one walks.

[@princessbrj]

Wrong. What r u talking about

[@112233or1]

5 min of fame

[@mobeydick37]

Ron Davis should have had this conversation with his son. Jordan don't let your mouth overload your ass!

[@TYFLOL]

Shouldve just looked before he shot

[@kattalady8114]

No one has the right to blast music like that. Consequences are coming. People are tired of it.

[@ltvanburen8555]

Unless there is a local sound ordnance, EVERYONE has the right to blast music. Just like everyone has the right to make their cars and motorcycles extra loud and drive around at night revving their engines whether it disturbs me or not. Welcome to the United States, lady.

[@PsychoAsianDood]

Anyone has the right to blast music like that whether you like or not. There's no law against it, so keep crying 😢

[@peoeoe]

i thought this was gonna be about how loud music damages the still developing eardrums of children/teens

[@ShamanNoodles]

I see nothing wrong with this

[@alexandermaier8332]

Blasting music 24/7, SMH