"The potential to move into this position." Actual Meaning: We already have an outside higher for this, but they can't start for at least another 2-3 months so we just want a temporary patsy before we bring in this new person at 2-4x your salary.
@mudshovel2892 ай бұрын
But wouldn’t you be able to say that you did that manager’s job on your resume and then look for that job elsewhere?
@TaraWert12 ай бұрын
@@mudshovel289 You can say anything you want on a resume. Try and they will probably say you never officially held that position though and now you're new job has you pegged as dishonest before you start.
@mudshovel2892 ай бұрын
@@TaraWert1 but isn’t that what references are for? They call up and check? And wouldn’t they test you with questions at your interview?
@DavidCruickshank2 ай бұрын
@@mudshovel289 Their point is that the reference will say that you didn't officially do the job which will make you look bad.
@mudshovel2892 ай бұрын
@@DavidCruickshank what do they gain from lying about that? Keeping you at the company?
@jtixtlan2 ай бұрын
But the people they will interview externally for 90 days don’t have to prove themselves. And when one of them is selected instead of Veronica, they will make $20K more than Veronica and she will be expected to train that new manager, who will then give Veronica a lukewarm “meets expectations” review. You know it’s true; Veronica knows it, too.
@xephael34852 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@RayPointerChannel2 ай бұрын
Veronica won't take this much longer. Stay tuned and see.
@williamgeardener25092 ай бұрын
My former employer had this weird rule where you got paid for the work that you did. If I covered for my manager because he was on vacation for 3 weeks, I would get the same pay as he did for those 3 weeks. It was only because I chose to retire early, or else I would be still working there.
@andeleon68382 ай бұрын
that is cool
@zeropoint70512 ай бұрын
thats how it used to work actually
@brianvalenti12072 ай бұрын
In California, that would be considered a discretionary bonus. I would also have to go back and recalculate overtime pay for the new average regular rate of pay for the entire year. No accounting software supports that, so it would have to be done manually. Probably also have to amend all the previous quarter tax totals with the state and feds with number that don't match the accounting software. It's a good policy but California has made it way too difficult to implement.
@selej2 ай бұрын
They tried that at my old job. But only if you were transffered to a lower department to make up for them being behind. Did not go well.
@StealthMarmot_2 ай бұрын
What sucks is that you call it "weird" when that SHOULD be the norm.
@goldy76782 ай бұрын
What the manger is saying is, "We need you to fill the role because you are capable, but we don't want you there permanently. It's just until we can hire a replacement." In other words, you are being used.
@nsnopper2 ай бұрын
Or, “we need you, but we don’t want you.”
@jaykay55802 ай бұрын
it would be at that very moment that i updated my resume and pursued other work.
@keithcon35052 ай бұрын
While the skit demonstrated the employee being pressured, i saw no blackmail.
@Ms_Kymm2 ай бұрын
This exact thing happened to me & my dumbass fell for it TWICE 😩the 2nd time I got swindled... when it came time to get the job permanently 👉🏾all the other department heads wrote recommendation letters praising my work for the eight months I was a manager/supervisor (in title only) & my boss asked me how much I paid them 🙄then said since I didn't have an actual degree for the position, I couldn't have it 😒 mild mannered me... almost became a news headline 😵💫
@WeirdWonderful2 ай бұрын
So the fact you actively showed you were capable of doing this for 8 months was apparently less important than a piece of paper stating you theoretically should be capable to do this. That makes sense, if you don't think about it at all
@Lobsterwithinternet2 ай бұрын
@@WeirdWonderfulTranslation: They already had an outside hire in mind and your degree was a convenient excuse to deny you the position.
@Ms_Kymm2 ай бұрын
@@Lobsterwithinternet FACTS!! they saved money for 8 months by not paying me supervisor wages, the new employee didn't know half of what I knew, so of course I was expected to train her 🙄I quiet quit until they fired me 👉🏾 then had to fight for unemployment... eventually won & received almost a year's worth of past unemployment checks.
@misspat75552 ай бұрын
@@Ms_KymmI bet they told people you didn’t want to work, too! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@user-kf6lu4dn2r2 ай бұрын
And yet the person they actually hire will have the pay and benefits and authority from day one
@MP-db9sw2 ай бұрын
And she would probably be asked to train them!
@antonio54442 ай бұрын
You can't get pass Veronica with nothing lol.
@MarkBush-en5cz2 ай бұрын
An opportunity to prove yourself capable of being exploited. Get busy on that resume.
@deborahfurman30222 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha NO GUARANTEE, won’t be happening
@jerryrichardson27992 ай бұрын
Exactly and thank you.
@daigriffiths3992 ай бұрын
Oh yes, the annual review... I (and others) would send back the annual review not filled in with the comment that 'waste of time doing this because we all know what the situation is'. Our manager's response was 'I know, but it's part of your contract'. We never filled in the review before the one-to-one with our manager but during the one-to-one session we'd figure out what upper management at HQ would want to read, fill that in as the employee and then our manager would fill in his bit. Of course, it never made any difference whatsoever but we carried on making our life easy for quite a few years like this. Yes, we had a damn good management team in our office.
@Christopher019702 ай бұрын
I like the peach 🍑 icon on the computer screen.
@TheDunestrider2 ай бұрын
I missed the "blackmail" part.
@LarryMan512 ай бұрын
Same here,
@patfiegener53692 ай бұрын
This is yet another repeat of an earlier post with a change in what the characters look like.
@MartinisnOlives2 ай бұрын
I was going to say the same. I’m confused. Do various illustrators buy the voice and attach it to their drawings? I’m so confused by these skits.
@hb41962 ай бұрын
Other KZbin channels are copying the original posts, which would be my guess. Its not just here, I’ve seen this done elsewhere.
@MartinisnOlives2 ай бұрын
@@hb4196 But it’s the same gal voicing them. Is she being credited and/or paid for each representation?
@Schrodingers_Kat2 ай бұрын
@@MartinisnOlivesIt’s literally in the description.
@MartinisnOlives2 ай бұрын
@@Schrodingers_Kat Yeah, I saw that, bozo.
@wilsonle612 ай бұрын
Ill pass, I decline permanently 🤣
@wlonsdale12 ай бұрын
This is like the third one I've seen with this EXACT dialog.
@Mobmezza2 ай бұрын
I want to find the original creator. people have no originality so the just steal from others
@codybaker1150Ай бұрын
@@MobmezzaThis is animation practice man. Calm down. The original is stick figures, these animations really help sell the scenario. If you want to hear stick figures do the audio, the original audio creator is in the description
@MobmezzaАй бұрын
@codybaker1150 If they credited the original creator, I missed it, but I have no problem. Too many people with 0% creativity just steal other people's ideas and repurpose it as their own. That's lazy and dishonest.
@sundjinnkari2 ай бұрын
Heres another way to handle this: "I will work as an acting manager, but if at the end of the period i do not gain the manager position, you can consier this my notice period." Or "I will take the job, but if during the 90 days, if the position becomes filled by another entity, I will leave without notice. I expect a review period after the 90 days, with understanding that it is an interview for the position. If those terms cannnot be met, I turn it down."
@mellttabor21342 ай бұрын
Work extra for free and we MIGHT ( they won’t) consider you for a higher management job!
@nsnopper2 ай бұрын
Years ago, I was subjected to the mandatory career planning discussion with my manager. It was mandated by Corporate. I asked: “Okay, what are the possibilities here at this company?” My manager replied: “Everything is possible.” So I threw out an answer; “Within the next three years, I’d like to see myself as . . . .” He replied “Well, perhaps, maybe, down the road, we could look at opportunities and possibilities . . .” Seriously, that was his answer. I asked: “If that’s not on the table, what might be?” His answer: “Anything.” So, I offered up another idea for my career development. He replied: “perhaps, maybe, down the road, we could look at opportunities and possibilities . . .” We went one more round of this circular, pointless discussion, before I tactfully brought it to an end.
@daigriffiths3992 ай бұрын
Sounds about right.
@user-dg5zf4it8c2 ай бұрын
How much longer were you at the company?
@nsnopper2 ай бұрын
@@user-dg5zf4it8c Unfortunately, the Canadian economy at the time was in a prolonged recession. I tried my damnedest to find something else - something more lucrative, and where my talents would pay off. But I got jammed up. Opportunities elsewhere were sparse. Eventually I did leave. But my prolonged stay hurt my career.
@swinde2 ай бұрын
Toodaloo.
@mudshovel2892 ай бұрын
Um, isn’t this how a lot of organizations work? It’s how the army worked. Usually before getting promoted to a Sergeant, a Specialist will serve as an acting Team Leader, which is normally supposed to be a Sergeant’s job, but people are always leaving so they are sometimes short on people of that rank for that position. So they make a Specialist step up and learn the job and then they eventually just promote them. And so on with every rank going forward. I’ve seen so many people serve as “acting _” and learn the job before getting promoted to that rank. I always just thought it made sense.
@SGC5112 ай бұрын
makes sense And they actually will promote.
@Just-saying42 ай бұрын
Does if management actually follows through Fair or not private sector is rife with management pulling shenanigans to try and pad out the bottom line. They tried to slide me into a supervisor position with no raise. Then when I quit I found out the raise they did give me the initial offer was less than the guy who couldn't take over when I quit.
@misspat75552 ай бұрын
It makes sense if there’s actually a good chance you’ll get promoted, and not asked to train the new hire as your “assistant”, then “laid off”. 😒
@TheRedBrethren2 ай бұрын
I don’t see any blackmail. Gaslighting/manipulation sure.
@racpatrice2 ай бұрын
Personally I would have taken the opportunity. I understand why alot of people wouldn't though. I would use it as experience so I can put it on my resume and then resign when I get a better position/ managerial position elsewhere.
@obrenmasic3982 ай бұрын
YOU have the mindset of someone going places...😊
@SerenityLoman2 ай бұрын
It doesn't pay your bills dude. Not your gas nor for groceries
@SerenityLoman2 ай бұрын
Working for free kicks you out of your home
@flyingspirit35492 ай бұрын
@@SerenityLoman True, BUT! It does give you valuable experience and education for free. I'd take it and work my butt off to be the best person they've EVER seen in that position. No matter what, I WIN! [1] they decide to keep me in that position and pay me what I'm worth. I WIN! [2] anything else, and I'm out looking with a better resume. I WIN!
@benu_bird2 ай бұрын
@@flyingspirit3549 If they don't get petty and lie about your role when they are called for a reference. A boss did that to me, and I lost a great job because of it.
@randyzeitman13542 ай бұрын
This is not a problem. Happy to work for the 90 days at my current pay. If I am hired as manager, I want that retroactive pay because you are verifying that I did perform the role for 90 days.
@TopHatProductions1152 ай бұрын
But they didn't mention retroactive pay sadly.
@heliumcalcium3962 ай бұрын
"Agreed!" "Oh, I walked right into that one, didn't I?"
@sundjinnkari2 ай бұрын
You don't get the retroactive pay, because you're not hired to the position.
@benu_bird2 ай бұрын
My boss at my last job did the manager's position "temporarily" after they fired our old boss for playing video games on the job. They finally offered him the job-after 7 months. No back pay. they is never back pay.
@INFJparadox2 ай бұрын
And then you’re fired! Employers own you
@ayelosyundox22642 ай бұрын
Unfortunately... 😢
@don86592 ай бұрын
Only if you let them. Have a wife range of skills and ability to work elsewhere for better or same pay and don't exceed your income with too much materialism and you're fine. Your employers don't own you. Your need for amenities owns you and employers take advantage of that.
@emilyadams99862 ай бұрын
What if you didn't decline in those words, but said something like, "well, since it'll be longer hours without additional pay, that wouldn't work for me, because I'd have to keep my kids in day care for longer, and I can't afford that [or, say, the day care closes at 5:30 or 6]," or, "well, since it'll be longer hours without additonal pay, that wouldn't work for me, because I have to leave at 5 p.m. to get to my other job [or other standing commitment] on time," or some other reason that's purely about logistics, and wouldn't come off as an attack.
@don86592 ай бұрын
@@emilyadams9986 because I've seen a lot of companies especially trade jobs put in their policies you can't have another job (which I always disregard and I'm sure thats illegal in some way or another) and 2. I prefer to be up front with my boundaries and honest. If they don't like it I can always go elsewhere.
@williampalchak75742 ай бұрын
Had this happen to me more times than I care to remember. Accepted it in my early days for the experience. Diplomatically told them to F off as I got a little older and "wiser". That did result in some pay bumps, but mostly passive aggressive retribution.
@raventhorX2 ай бұрын
I do t think you understand what blackmailing is. This is not that, but still a good message to send to people.
@charzemc2 ай бұрын
Maybe not blackmail but most definitely extortion.
@joaomarcoscosta46472 ай бұрын
@@charzemc English is not my first language, but doesn't extortion imply the use of force or threaths? This seems really sketchy, and possibly ilegal, but I'm not sure extortion is the right word either. (I mean, delegating higher responsabilities before a promotion is pretty normal, but 3 months fully doing a different job with no pay is A BIT much.)
@eh17022 ай бұрын
You are correct, it’s not blackmail or extortion. It’s better described as a scam. Or fraud by false pretences - since we all know that it is three months because they actually are recruiting someone else who has to give three months notice to their own employer.
@SanDiegoHarry12 ай бұрын
Had this situation two or three times in my life. I've learned the hard way. Just say no.
@nuthinbutlove2 ай бұрын
I worked for a 5 star hotel chain that tried this with me. No!
@cita_m2 ай бұрын
Somebody needs a vocab refresher. This is not what blackmailing someone is.
@citrix1232 ай бұрын
We used to always say , but this is good for ypur development, we were not wrong , but we were not right either
@nrais762 ай бұрын
That's not blackmail, blackmail is when you have dirt on someone and you extort money or favors for them based on not revealing it. Also, this particular scenario as presented, yes, employers do it all the time. If you don't fall for it enough times, they look for ways to fire you.
@nigelnightmare41602 ай бұрын
Got caught by a similar thing and when they bought in management from outside the firm I informed the fraud office of ALL the things going on in the firm. Said firm no longer exists and owner got out last year after a 20yr sentence.
@notyou69502 ай бұрын
I want nothing to do with the corporate America manager level.
@TheTSenseАй бұрын
0:40 being 100% sure is an advantage you can't afford. Take your chances now or walk
@garcel12512 ай бұрын
It’s a situation to be used until they find someone else
@christophernuckolls99642 ай бұрын
This is not blackmail. It's immoral, but not blackmail.
@sierraj74802 ай бұрын
Who the hell are these people? Where are the stick figures
@setapartaay9252 ай бұрын
This not the Veronica I know…..🤷🏾♀️
@harryboyes2812Ай бұрын
Had exactly this situation with one job several years ago. The competent supervisor was transferred, another team member took his place for a while (without getting the appropriate pay) and was then replaced with someone who, to quote Australian TV show Blue Heelers, "Couldn't organise a chook raffle." Trust me when I say there were much more colourful descriptions.
@kailianglf22 ай бұрын
feels bad for folks actually experiencing this situation/are in an environment without built-in career progression mechanism.
@svetlovska2 ай бұрын
Veronica for President
@GD0nlyАй бұрын
"It's an opportunity to prove yourself" Is that not why you're giving me the 'acting' role? Because I've proven that I'm on that level, but the role is filled? I'm gonna start tendering my resumée, I'll let you know when my notice period starts.
@enargins2 ай бұрын
That's not blackmail. LOL
@cindithomas74402 ай бұрын
In my experience I carried a certificate. Another employee was in the midst of a 2 year program. I was asked to join planning, interdepartment meetings several times a week, "Let the rest of the department know", "work it up in writing", represent my department. And then after 6 months told "well you do realize that X is getting her degree, right?" I ended up quitting. It's maddening
@edsherrod52162 ай бұрын
Been there done that (acting manager - no additional pay) and when offered the manager's job, no guarantees I would get any more money than my role as an employee. I found a job at another company and they hired someone to take the manager's position for more than they paid the previous manager. Their loss.
@crabstick2502 ай бұрын
I love Veronica!!
@FairygelicАй бұрын
This literally happened to me a few months ago 💀 I applied for a higher position (that I have lots of experience in) and they decided to give it to another coworker that has only been in the company for 2 months. Then a few weeks later someone in that department quit and they decided they wanted me in that role finally, but without a pay increase 😭 so I would be the only one in that department making less than everyone else AND have more responsibilities
@JairoMakerАй бұрын
Naila tus animaciones son muy populares en "Shorts" te recomiendo subirlos a "Shorts" y si es posible con subtitulos al español, porque otro usuario se robo tus videos y los puso en español y tiene miles de vistas sin dejarte creditos
@ardalla5352 ай бұрын
Not bad. The old "'make the worse appear the better" that they tried to nail Socrates with.
@patrickm60122 ай бұрын
I am not a doctor (manager) but I act like one.
@vsgfilmgroup2 ай бұрын
So, basically, you want a manager paid like front-line for three months. I'll do it, but I want a written contractual guarantee that I get the job at the end of that three months.
@bugpal2 ай бұрын
Why is it the same scripts but several different animators? Who actually owns this material? This is just curiosity, I'm not being a karen and I love Veronica.
@patrickpromen36052 ай бұрын
"So if I haven't proven myself yet, why am I being offered the responsibility for three months? If I'm unproven, doesn't that mean you're taking a big risk by installing me there? A lot can go wrong in three months."
@RayPointerChannel2 ай бұрын
But in another video, Veronica filled the position for eight months and then was asked to train someone they hired from outside to do this job that she had been doing for half the year. It is these types of unethical games that Managers play with employees that makes people not want to work or do excellent work because they are not appreciated for what they do.
@AmalgmousProxy2 ай бұрын
What kind of animation software is this?
@neemaadam2 ай бұрын
Wow. In my country, you get all pay and privileges for the position you're acting. Employers can also not ask you to act longer than a year. You automatically get that position.
@eh17022 ай бұрын
If you actually cannot tell that someone whose work and personality you know will be any good in a promoted role, then you’re saying you have no confidence in your own professional judgement. You shouldn’t be in your role. But of course, we know it’s really just a cheap scam.
@sarahprice6592 ай бұрын
The only thing that bothers me is that there isn’t any blackmail happening!
@reyigo692 ай бұрын
Truth
@benpearson492 ай бұрын
I hate Corpos
@stuartgrier5605Ай бұрын
only in america.
@ameliamae92272 ай бұрын
How is this blackmail??? I have seen about 5000 different versions on these same Veronika animations but none have had a stupid title like this peach!!!
@minnaminnn93982 ай бұрын
But thank you 😏
@sharingtheherring12Ай бұрын
When an unintelligent KZbinr doesn't know what the word "blackmail" means, and they laughably put it out there for the world to see...
@rickc22222 ай бұрын
ummm.... stolen content?
@mcgalenАй бұрын
wait - isn't this just straight up stealing another person's content? WWVD? (What would Veronica do?)
@d.c.taylor-sullivan30262 ай бұрын
Beacuse the manager left and they couldn't hired a new manager 🙄 they do that all the time like pass they left now you have to do the job Beacuse you get paid more, I don't mind helping around 🤡,but I have my limits and this one of them pass if they come with this bull shit😅
@misterchubbikins2 ай бұрын
God this channel makes me so glad i don't have a woman manager. They just seem aweful
@malcire2 ай бұрын
? Not seeing blackmail. Seems more like a con.
@philswaim3922 ай бұрын
How is that blackmail?
@leahwhiteley51642 ай бұрын
They only did this to the women where I use to work. You never got a promotion unless you worked the job for at least a year at your old pay grade. But the men were promoted immediately.
@claytucker50252 ай бұрын
That's not right.
@woodzyfox47352 ай бұрын
COPY CAT!
@mudshovel2892 ай бұрын
Even if Veronica proved herself at her job, that doesn’t mean she’ll do good at her manager’s job. This is a chance for her to learn her manager’s job and put it down on her resume. If she does well and this company doesn’t promote her, couldn’t she just start looking for another job and tell other employers how she did this managerial job and she could get hired as a manager with them? This attitude here just seems like she’ll forever be stuck at her position. And I’ve seen those other videos of her reacting when the company just fires her. Or her apartment decides to not renew her lease because she doesn’t earn as much as they like and they want to increase the rent because they know other people can afford it.
@jermainestate49722 ай бұрын
To those on the internet, yes this is gaslighting, just keep scrolling. Your all great.
@mudshovel2892 ай бұрын
@@jermainestate4972 I’m gaslighting?
@drl50022 ай бұрын
If she's doing more work, she should be getting more compensation. If they want to frame it as a learning opportunity and not compensate her more, then her regular duties should be adjusted accordingly to compensate for the additional manager duties so it can still get done in a normal work day and not add 20 hours a week extra onto her load for three months.
@mudshovel2892 ай бұрын
@@drl5002 ok that’s fair.
@LinusK5002 ай бұрын
how to make sure you never get promoted
@johndotter3512 ай бұрын
Bullshit!
@patrickarraes44222 ай бұрын
That was a very childish and stupid way of loosing experience in management roll.
@WildBikerBill2 ай бұрын
Why? She's already been subbing in that management role so they already know exactly how she fits. What they've inadvertently done is let her know she's not going to be promoted, and she now knows it's time to move on elsewhere.