When manager tries to blackmail you 🤣

[@TaraWert1]

"The potential to move into this position." Actual Meaning: We already have an outside higher for this, but they can't start for at least another 2-3 months so we just want a temporary patsy before we bring in this new person at 2-4x your salary.

[@mudshovel289]

But wouldn’t you be able to say that you did that manager’s job on your resume and then look for that job elsewhere?

[@TaraWert1]

@@mudshovel289 You can say anything you want on a resume. Try and they will probably say you never officially held that position though and now you're new job has you pegged as dishonest before you start.

[@mudshovel289]

@@TaraWert1 but isn’t that what references are for? They call up and check? And wouldn’t they test you with questions at your interview?

[@DavidCruickshank]

@@mudshovel289 Their point is that the reference will say that you didn't officially do the job which will make you look bad.

[@mudshovel289]

@@DavidCruickshank what do they gain from lying about that? Keeping you at the company?

[@jtixtlan]

But the people they will interview externally for 90 days don’t have to prove themselves. And when one of them is selected instead of Veronica, they will make $20K more than Veronica and she will be expected to train that new manager, who will then give Veronica a lukewarm “meets expectations” review. You know it’s true; Veronica knows it, too.

[@xephael3485]

Exactly 💯

[@RayPointerChannel]

Veronica won't take this much longer. Stay tuned and see.

[@williamgeardener2509]

My former employer had this weird rule where you got paid for the work that you did. If I covered for my manager because he was on vacation for 3 weeks, I would get the same pay as he did for those 3 weeks. It was only because I chose to retire early, or else I would be still working there.

[@andeleon6838]

that is cool

[@zeropoint7051]

thats how it used to work actually

[@brianvalenti1207]

In California, that would be considered a discretionary bonus. I would also have to go back and recalculate overtime pay for the new average regular rate of pay for the entire year. No accounting software supports that, so it would have to be done manually. Probably also have to amend all the previous quarter tax totals with the state and feds with number that don't match the accounting software. It's a good policy but California has made it way too difficult to implement.

[@selej]

They tried that at my old job. But only if you were transffered to a lower department to make up for them being behind. Did not go well.

[@StealthMarmot_]

What sucks is that you call it "weird" when that SHOULD be the norm.

[@goldy7678]

What the manger is saying is, "We need you to fill the role because you are capable, but we don't want you there permanently. It's just until we can hire a replacement." In other words, you are being used.

[@nsnopper]

Or, “we need you, but we don’t want you.”

[@jaykay5580]

it would be at that very moment that i updated my resume and pursued other work.

[@keithcon3505]

While the skit demonstrated the employee being pressured, i saw no blackmail.

[@Ms_Kymm]

This exact thing happened to me & my dumbass fell for it TWICE 😩the 2nd time I got swindled... when it came time to get the job permanently 👉🏾all the other department heads wrote recommendation letters praising my work for the eight months I was a manager/supervisor (in title only) & my boss asked me how much I paid them 🙄then said since I didn't have an actual degree for the position, I couldn't have it 😒 mild mannered me... almost became a news headline 😵‍💫

[@WeirdWonderful]

So the fact you actively showed you were capable of doing this for 8 months was apparently less important than a piece of paper stating you theoretically should be capable to do this. That makes sense, if you don't think about it at all

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@WeirdWonderfulTranslation: They already had an outside hire in mind and your degree was a convenient excuse to deny you the position.

[@Ms_Kymm]

@@Lobsterwithinternet FACTS!! they saved money for 8 months by not paying me supervisor wages, the new employee didn't know half of what I knew, so of course I was expected to train her 🙄I quiet quit until they fired me 👉🏾 then had to fight for unemployment... eventually won & received almost a year's worth of past unemployment checks.

[@misspat7555]

@@Ms_KymmI bet they told people you didn’t want to work, too! 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@user-kf6lu4dn2r]

And yet the person they actually hire will have the pay and benefits and authority from day one

[@MP-db9sw]

And she would probably be asked to train them!

[@antonio5444]

You can't get pass Veronica with nothing lol.

[@MarkBush-en5cz]

An opportunity to prove yourself capable of being exploited. Get busy on that resume.

[@deborahfurman3022]

Ha ha ha NO GUARANTEE, won’t be happening

[@jerryrichardson2799]

Exactly and thank you.

[@daigriffiths399]

Oh yes, the annual review... I (and others) would send back the annual review not filled in with the comment that 'waste of time doing this because we all know what the situation is'. Our manager's response was 'I know, but it's part of your contract'. We never filled in the review before the one-to-one with our manager but during the one-to-one session we'd figure out what upper management at HQ would want to read, fill that in as the employee and then our manager would fill in his bit. Of course, it never made any difference whatsoever but we carried on making our life easy for quite a few years like this. Yes, we had a damn good management team in our office.

[@Christopher01970]

I like the peach 🍑 icon on the computer screen.

[@TheDunestrider]

I missed the "blackmail" part.

[@LarryMan51]

Same here,

[@patfiegener5369]

This is yet another repeat of an earlier post with a change in what the characters look like.

[@MartinisnOlives]

I was going to say the same. I’m confused. Do various illustrators buy the voice and attach it to their drawings? I’m so confused by these skits.

[@hb4196]

Other KZbin channels are copying the original posts, which would be my guess. Its not just here, I’ve seen this done elsewhere.

[@MartinisnOlives]

@@hb4196 But it’s the same gal voicing them. Is she being credited and/or paid for each representation?

[@Schrodingers_Kat]

@@MartinisnOlivesIt’s literally in the description.

[@MartinisnOlives]

@@Schrodingers_Kat Yeah, I saw that, bozo.

[@wilsonle61]

Ill pass, I decline permanently 🤣

[@wlonsdale1]

This is like the third one I've seen with this EXACT dialog.

[@Mobmezza]

I want to find the original creator. people have no originality so the just steal from others

[@codybaker1150]

​@@MobmezzaThis is animation practice man. Calm down. The original is stick figures, these animations really help sell the scenario. If you want to hear stick figures do the audio, the original audio creator is in the description

[@Mobmezza]

@codybaker1150 If they credited the original creator, I missed it, but I have no problem. Too many people with 0% creativity just steal other people's ideas and repurpose it as their own. That's lazy and dishonest.

[@sundjinnkari]

Heres another way to handle this: "I will work as an acting manager, but if at the end of the period i do not gain the manager position, you can consier this my notice period." Or "I will take the job, but if during the 90 days, if the position becomes filled by another entity, I will leave without notice. I expect a review period after the 90 days, with understanding that it is an interview for the position. If those terms cannnot be met, I turn it down."

[@mellttabor2134]

Work extra for free and we MIGHT ( they won’t) consider you for a higher management job!

[@nsnopper]

Years ago, I was subjected to the mandatory career planning discussion with my manager. It was mandated by Corporate. I asked: “Okay, what are the possibilities here at this company?” My manager replied: “Everything is possible.” So I threw out an answer; “Within the next three years, I’d like to see myself as . . . .” He replied “Well, perhaps, maybe, down the road, we could look at opportunities and possibilities . . .” Seriously, that was his answer. I asked: “If that’s not on the table, what might be?” His answer: “Anything.” So, I offered up another idea for my career development. He replied: “perhaps, maybe, down the road, we could look at opportunities and possibilities . . .” We went one more round of this circular, pointless discussion, before I tactfully brought it to an end.

[@daigriffiths399]

Sounds about right.

[@user-dg5zf4it8c]

How much longer were you at the company?

[@nsnopper]

@@user-dg5zf4it8c Unfortunately, the Canadian economy at the time was in a prolonged recession. I tried my damnedest to find something else - something more lucrative, and where my talents would pay off. But I got jammed up. Opportunities elsewhere were sparse. Eventually I did leave. But my prolonged stay hurt my career.

[@swinde]

Toodaloo.

[@mudshovel289]

Um, isn’t this how a lot of organizations work? It’s how the army worked. Usually before getting promoted to a Sergeant, a Specialist will serve as an acting Team Leader, which is normally supposed to be a Sergeant’s job, but people are always leaving so they are sometimes short on people of that rank for that position. So they make a Specialist step up and learn the job and then they eventually just promote them. And so on with every rank going forward. I’ve seen so many people serve as “acting _” and learn the job before getting promoted to that rank. I always just thought it made sense.

[@SGC511]

makes sense And they actually will promote.

[@Just-saying4]

Does if management actually follows through Fair or not private sector is rife with management pulling shenanigans to try and pad out the bottom line. They tried to slide me into a supervisor position with no raise. Then when I quit I found out the raise they did give me the initial offer was less than the guy who couldn't take over when I quit.

[@misspat7555]

It makes sense if there’s actually a good chance you’ll get promoted, and not asked to train the new hire as your “assistant”, then “laid off”. 😒

[@TheRedBrethren]

I don’t see any blackmail. Gaslighting/manipulation sure.

[@racpatrice]

Personally I would have taken the opportunity. I understand why alot of people wouldn't though. I would use it as experience so I can put it on my resume and then resign when I get a better position/ managerial position elsewhere.

[@obrenmasic398]

YOU have the mindset of someone going places...😊

[@SerenityLoman]

It doesn't pay your bills dude. Not your gas nor for groceries

[@SerenityLoman]

Working for free kicks you out of your home

[@flyingspirit3549]

@@SerenityLoman True, BUT! It does give you valuable experience and education for free. I'd take it and work my butt off to be the best person they've EVER seen in that position. No matter what, I WIN! [1] they decide to keep me in that position and pay me what I'm worth. I WIN! [2] anything else, and I'm out looking with a better resume. I WIN!

[@benu_bird]

@@flyingspirit3549 If they don't get petty and lie about your role when they are called for a reference. A boss did that to me, and I lost a great job because of it.

[@randyzeitman1354]

This is not a problem. Happy to work for the 90 days at my current pay. If I am hired as manager, I want that retroactive pay because you are verifying that I did perform the role for 90 days.

[@TopHatProductions115]

But they didn't mention retroactive pay sadly.

[@heliumcalcium396]

"Agreed!" "Oh, I walked right into that one, didn't I?"

[@sundjinnkari]

You don't get the retroactive pay, because you're not hired to the position.

[@benu_bird]

My boss at my last job did the manager's position "temporarily" after they fired our old boss for playing video games on the job. They finally offered him the job-after 7 months. No back pay. they is never back pay.

[@INFJparadox]

And then you’re fired! Employers own you

[@ayelosyundox2264]

Unfortunately... 😢

[@don8659]

Only if you let them. Have a wife range of skills and ability to work elsewhere for better or same pay and don't exceed your income with too much materialism and you're fine. Your employers don't own you. Your need for amenities owns you and employers take advantage of that.

[@emilyadams9986]

What if you didn't decline in those words, but said something like, "well, since it'll be longer hours without additional pay, that wouldn't work for me, because I'd have to keep my kids in day care for longer, and I can't afford that [or, say, the day care closes at 5:30 or 6]," or, "well, since it'll be longer hours without additonal pay, that wouldn't work for me, because I have to leave at 5 p.m. to get to my other job [or other standing commitment] on time," or some other reason that's purely about logistics, and wouldn't come off as an attack.

[@don8659]

@@emilyadams9986 because I've seen a lot of companies especially trade jobs put in their policies you can't have another job (which I always disregard and I'm sure thats illegal in some way or another) and 2. I prefer to be up front with my boundaries and honest. If they don't like it I can always go elsewhere.

[@williampalchak7574]

Had this happen to me more times than I care to remember. Accepted it in my early days for the experience. Diplomatically told them to F off as I got a little older and "wiser". That did result in some pay bumps, but mostly passive aggressive retribution.

[@raventhorX]

I do t think you understand what blackmailing is. This is not that, but still a good message to send to people.

[@charzemc]

Maybe not blackmail but most definitely extortion.

[@joaomarcoscosta4647]

@@charzemc English is not my first language, but doesn't extortion imply the use of force or threaths? This seems really sketchy, and possibly ilegal, but I'm not sure extortion is the right word either. (I mean, delegating higher responsabilities before a promotion is pretty normal, but 3 months fully doing a different job with no pay is A BIT much.)

[@eh1702]

You are correct, it’s not blackmail or extortion. It’s better described as a scam. Or fraud by false pretences - since we all know that it is three months because they actually are recruiting someone else who has to give three months notice to their own employer.

[@SanDiegoHarry1]

Had this situation two or three times in my life. I've learned the hard way. Just say no.

[@nuthinbutlove]

I worked for a 5 star hotel chain that tried this with me. No!

[@cita_m]

Somebody needs a vocab refresher. This is not what blackmailing someone is.

[@citrix123]

We used to always say , but this is good for ypur development, we were not wrong , but we were not right either

[@nrais76]

That's not blackmail, blackmail is when you have dirt on someone and you extort money or favors for them based on not revealing it. Also, this particular scenario as presented, yes, employers do it all the time. If you don't fall for it enough times, they look for ways to fire you.

[@nigelnightmare4160]

Got caught by a similar thing and when they bought in management from outside the firm I informed the fraud office of ALL the things going on in the firm. Said firm no longer exists and owner got out last year after a 20yr sentence.

[@notyou6950]

I want nothing to do with the corporate America manager level.

[@TheTSense]

0:40 being 100% sure is an advantage you can't afford. Take your chances now or walk

[@garcel1251]

It’s a situation to be used until they find someone else

[@christophernuckolls9964]

This is not blackmail. It's immoral, but not blackmail.

[@sierraj7480]

Who the hell are these people? Where are the stick figures

[@setapartaay925]

This not the Veronica I know…..🤷🏾‍♀️

[@harryboyes2812]

Had exactly this situation with one job several years ago. The competent supervisor was transferred, another team member took his place for a while (without getting the appropriate pay) and was then replaced with someone who, to quote Australian TV show Blue Heelers, "Couldn't organise a chook raffle." Trust me when I say there were much more colourful descriptions.

[@kailianglf2]

feels bad for folks actually experiencing this situation/are in an environment without built-in career progression mechanism.

[@svetlovska]

Veronica for President

[@GD0nly]

"It's an opportunity to prove yourself" Is that not why you're giving me the 'acting' role? Because I've proven that I'm on that level, but the role is filled? I'm gonna start tendering my resumée, I'll let you know when my notice period starts.

[@enargins]

That's not blackmail. LOL

[@cindithomas7440]

In my experience I carried a certificate. Another employee was in the midst of a 2 year program. I was asked to join planning, interdepartment meetings several times a week, "Let the rest of the department know", "work it up in writing", represent my department. And then after 6 months told "well you do realize that X is getting her degree, right?" I ended up quitting. It's maddening

[@edsherrod5216]

Been there done that (acting manager - no additional pay) and when offered the manager's job, no guarantees I would get any more money than my role as an employee. I found a job at another company and they hired someone to take the manager's position for more than they paid the previous manager. Their loss.

[@crabstick250]

I love Veronica!!

[@Fairygelic]

This literally happened to me a few months ago 💀 I applied for a higher position (that I have lots of experience in) and they decided to give it to another coworker that has only been in the company for 2 months. Then a few weeks later someone in that department quit and they decided they wanted me in that role finally, but without a pay increase 😭 so I would be the only one in that department making less than everyone else AND have more responsibilities

[@JairoMaker]

Naila tus animaciones son muy populares en "Shorts" te recomiendo subirlos a "Shorts" y si es posible con subtitulos al español, porque otro usuario se robo tus videos y los puso en español y tiene miles de vistas sin dejarte creditos

[@ardalla535]

Not bad. The old "'make the worse appear the better" that they tried to nail Socrates with.

[@patrickm6012]

I am not a doctor (manager) but I act like one.

[@vsgfilmgroup]

So, basically, you want a manager paid like front-line for three months. I'll do it, but I want a written contractual guarantee that I get the job at the end of that three months.

[@bugpal]

Why is it the same scripts but several different animators? Who actually owns this material? This is just curiosity, I'm not being a karen and I love Veronica.

[@patrickpromen3605]

"So if I haven't proven myself yet, why am I being offered the responsibility for three months? If I'm unproven, doesn't that mean you're taking a big risk by installing me there? A lot can go wrong in three months."

[@RayPointerChannel]

But in another video, Veronica filled the position for eight months and then was asked to train someone they hired from outside to do this job that she had been doing for half the year. It is these types of unethical games that Managers play with employees that makes people not want to work or do excellent work because they are not appreciated for what they do.

[@AmalgmousProxy]

What kind of animation software is this?

[@neemaadam]

Wow. In my country, you get all pay and privileges for the position you're acting. Employers can also not ask you to act longer than a year. You automatically get that position.

[@eh1702]

If you actually cannot tell that someone whose work and personality you know will be any good in a promoted role, then you’re saying you have no confidence in your own professional judgement. You shouldn’t be in your role. But of course, we know it’s really just a cheap scam.

[@sarahprice659]

The only thing that bothers me is that there isn’t any blackmail happening!

[@reyigo69]

Truth

[@benpearson49]

I hate Corpos

[@stuartgrier5605]

only in america.

[@ameliamae9227]

How is this blackmail??? I have seen about 5000 different versions on these same Veronika animations but none have had a stupid title like this peach!!!

[@minnaminnn9398]

But thank you 😏

[@sharingtheherring12]

When an unintelligent KZbinr doesn't know what the word "blackmail" means, and they laughably put it out there for the world to see...

[@rickc2222]

ummm.... stolen content?

[@mcgalen]

wait - isn't this just straight up stealing another person's content? WWVD? (What would Veronica do?)

[@d.c.taylor-sullivan3026]

Beacuse the manager left and they couldn't hired a new manager 🙄 they do that all the time like pass they left now you have to do the job Beacuse you get paid more, I don't mind helping around 🤡,but I have my limits and this one of them pass if they come with this bull shit😅

[@misterchubbikins]

God this channel makes me so glad i don't have a woman manager. They just seem aweful

[@malcire]

? Not seeing blackmail. Seems more like a con.

[@philswaim392]

How is that blackmail?

[@leahwhiteley5164]

They only did this to the women where I use to work. You never got a promotion unless you worked the job for at least a year at your old pay grade. But the men were promoted immediately.

[@claytucker5025]

That's not right.

[@woodzyfox4735]

COPY CAT!

[@mudshovel289]

Even if Veronica proved herself at her job, that doesn’t mean she’ll do good at her manager’s job. This is a chance for her to learn her manager’s job and put it down on her resume. If she does well and this company doesn’t promote her, couldn’t she just start looking for another job and tell other employers how she did this managerial job and she could get hired as a manager with them? This attitude here just seems like she’ll forever be stuck at her position. And I’ve seen those other videos of her reacting when the company just fires her. Or her apartment decides to not renew her lease because she doesn’t earn as much as they like and they want to increase the rent because they know other people can afford it.

[@jermainestate4972]

To those on the internet, yes this is gaslighting, just keep scrolling. Your all great.

[@mudshovel289]

@@jermainestate4972 I’m gaslighting?

[@drl5002]

If she's doing more work, she should be getting more compensation. If they want to frame it as a learning opportunity and not compensate her more, then her regular duties should be adjusted accordingly to compensate for the additional manager duties so it can still get done in a normal work day and not add 20 hours a week extra onto her load for three months.

[@mudshovel289]

@@drl5002 ok that’s fair.

[@LinusK500]

how to make sure you never get promoted

[@johndotter351]

Bullshit!

[@patrickarraes4422]

That was a very childish and stupid way of loosing experience in management roll.

[@WildBikerBill]

Why? She's already been subbing in that management role so they already know exactly how she fits. What they've inadvertently done is let her know she's not going to be promoted, and she now knows it's time to move on elsewhere.

[@tommyrobinetti7180]

Corporations suck