When Truth Confronts Authority

[@divelostmind]

why am i watching jordan peterson eat a steak with ben shapiro on an abandoned roof and why is it so relaxing

[@Read-My-Post-Idiot]

You feel relaxed because you live your lonely life vicariously and this experience satisfies that need.

[@SammytheStampede]

That's the power of setting.

[@tamtamtt63]

Lol... How would we know why you're doing that, and how do you know that meal was expensive? 🤔😁

[@aces553]

​@@tamtamtt63the original poster didn't say they thought the meal was expensive. No mention of it. That was YOU.

[@cheyennealvis8284]

Cuz it's some Palestinian dude's house.

[@sues3218]

I like that they set this interview in sharing a meal. Notice how both are not staring at their phones and ignoring each other. They are enjoying a meal together in peace, and talking to one another. Iron sharpens iron. Fellowship is taking place, with civility. We need more of this in our culture, especially among families.

[@playigncamp]

Did you expect them looking at the phone while they’re filming??

[@treygibson6828]

​@@playigncamp They upload what they want you to see. I'm sure they were on the phone lol

[@trollala_555]

elitist eating while people are starving.

[@raneanubis]

keen observation, it's almost as if they intended the video to feature them having a conversation over a meal without staring at their phones?

[@porkypig7170]

I also like the way JP holds his fork while cutting

[@jonathan99097]

Jordan helped me through my worst times during covid and I love him for it. Such a nice relaxing setup they've got, and they spend it talking about this lol. can these intellectuals ever relax?

[@merav1624]

Jerusalem is absolutely breathtaking! Just wow!

[@carllucas89]

Been there last year. Most magical and beautiful place on earth, amen ☦️

[@playigncamp]

Stolen land

[@Alphain]

@@playigncamp whats the evidence for that? it was always israel

[@playigncamp]

@@Alphain what do you mean? there wasn't Israel before the UN resolution of 1948. And if you're going to say that 2,000 years ago there was Israel, well, wherever the country you're reading this from, wasn't that country 2,000 years ago.

[@dorandacolbert5973]

​@@playigncamp Reclaimed land. And they're not finished.😊

[@vinceocratic]

That scenery is sick! JP’s team just keeps crushing it!!!

[@NaturalNeuroz]

It’s like a movie scene that just keeps going, but is actually educational 🙂

[@kirstyiso]

entertaining education

[@kirstyiso]

stuck apex twin - stone in focus (loop track) on in the background . great stuff

[@timothycox1822]

A movie that I would never want to watch😂

[@Comical-Intellect]

Haha yes I see what you mean, I think it's the billion dollar camera crew to be honest

[@nikkoXmercado]

It's a probable direct reference to a movie that already exists. Look up "My Dinner with Andre."

[@KvaedTV]

Honesty. Honesty is the Ultimate Truth.

[@immortalityprjct]

I would say that real truth is acted out and not merely put into a proper sentence.

[@KvaedTV]

@@immortalityprjct Interesting. That which is honest is true, but what of our actions indeed. The idea of an 'Honest Person' and what that really means springs to mind, which does include how we act.

[@bearowen5480]

Magnificent! What a privilege to eavesdrop on an intimate philosophical conversation between two of the greatest intellectuals of our time! And to see it taking place with Jerusalem's iconic Western Wall in the background is incomparable. I would give all of my worldly possessions to have been seated at that table!

[@CraftySasquatch]

While others laugh at these 2 clowns.

[@artmadison1248]

​@@CraftySasquatchChrist have mercy on your sick soul

[@CraftySasquatch]

@@artmadison1248 whatever floats your boat sheep. I believe in God just not the one you are brainwashed with that was created to control and manipulate you.

[@adamevert1618]

By these two philosophical midgets 🤣🤣🤣...well you sure have your bar set low

[@mtom2237]

@@CraftySasquatchThey really are ridiculous. Pseudo-intellectualism at its finest. It’s interesting how hard it is to actually listen to their voices. Peterson talks with his mouth full of food. Bad manners.

[@ConradoHdz38328]

The big difference between Saul and David was that when Saul sinned, he always justified his actions. He never accepted that he was bad. And when David sinned, he accepted that he was a sinner, a bad person, and confessed to God his bad actions, asking for forgiveness. The difference between a prideful person and a humble person. The difference between a self-righteous person and an autocritical, introspective person who knows exactly what he's and what he's not.

[@brock5946]

Yes! I loved reading Kings

[@sues3218]

That is the contrast being showed between the two. Unbelief vs. belief. Fake repentence vs. real repentence. Pride vs humility. Rebellion vs submission. God removed His Holy Spirit from Saul, but not from David. At the end of David's life, God says that David did everything that God asked of him, except for that one time with Uriah the Hittite (Beersheba's husband). Notice how David never repeated that sin. Instead, he grieved greatly over it and made no excuses for it, and then he turned completely away from it. When he was confronted in it by the prophet Nathan, he never made excuses for it like Saul did. He never repeated it like Saul always did with his constant disobedience. One example of this repetitive sin is that Saul constantly hunted David down for many years, even though David had committed no crime against him, but instead had been a faithful servant of King Saul. Saul was upset that God had sent a prophet to annoint David as future King of Israel, and Saul did not want to give up the kingdom for himself, though it had been taken from him by God BECAUSE of his disobedience, his unbelieving heart, and rebellion against God. (There are also other circumstances recorded in the scriptures of Saul's habitual sinning against the LORD.) The contrast is recorded for our learning, for us to examine our own hearts to see if we are in unbelief or belief AND to discern what we are truly dealing with in any situation with others. Jesus said to know them by their fruit/deeds/actions. To test the spirit to see whether or not it is from God. Does a person practice lawlessness (like King Saul), or do they practice righteousness (like David). The word "practice" in the original language implies a habit of doing. It does not imply perfection. Basically, what do you mostly do/your actions because actions speak louder than words. There is a reason scripture refers to David as "a man after God's own heart". When David was confronted in his sin with Bersheeba and Uriah, he made no excuses, confessed his sin, and did not repeat it. He even wrote a psalm saying, against You O LORD I have sinned, and he expressed how it made him feel horrible. He begged God not to take His Holy Spirit from him. David grieved that his sin had offended God. All Saul cared about was power. He had no problem repeatedly offending the LORD, even though a few times he made fake apologies to David, yet continued to hunt him down unjustly because of his lust for power. God does not look at the outward man, but at the inward heart. Saul's heart was far from God. David's heart always drew close to the LORD, even in his worst moment. Remember, it is impossible to please God without faith. Saul had none, David had it in spades. We should strive to have a heart like David, and guard our hearts from becoming like King Saul. God Bless.

[@ReadingToDeath]

@@sues3218 While I cannot recall nor summarize what I've just read in these two comments. It seemed to make a lot of sense. Mapping the story onto my own life. I really think that how you live your life, at any moment and all, is who you really are. After all, if you have one idea of who you are, but to your death, your way of life never reflected that, then were you really who you thought you were?

[@elijahsantucci7643]

I never heard it explained like that , thank you man

[@gndggqsq-rp5rj]

@@sues3218 david didnt made sins

[@I-do-not-read-replies]

assassins creed back drop

[@Read-My-Post-Idiot]

The beta posting the above comment does not read replies because he lives in a basement, is psychologically neurotic, and can't face intellectual challenges.🤣

[@cabbage9412]

I see the haystack at the bottom of the tower

[@bunb8541]

Yerushalayim, my home 😍

[@micahstewart1254]

Or Battlefield 1

[@orencohen6678]

@@micahstewart1254 'Battlefield א', more like it

[@tylerturducken519]

My parents renewed their wedding vows at the place they are eating dinner.

[@johnnygeorgopoulos4072]

Sure is a scenic spot....all I can say is, I used to have a miniature flat topped palm tree in my apartment that reminded me of that tree behind them.... I should get my stuff together and get some more tropical plants, seeing I have no plants anymore, just evil cats 😖

[@Joohee4]

This is what I didn’t know I needed in so many ways. Respect them both. ❤

[@herzl67]

Dinner in Jerusalem, possibly facing the mount of Olives and having a deep conversation. A beautifully crafted video, its almost poetic.

[@michelletewhata7768]

The first time I heard Ben was his view on Ring of power, it was so good Very bright sparkle, his brain is always on fire Great podcast Jordan ❤

[@dwirtz0116]

BRAVO! 👏 More of these please! 🫡

[@marksullivan7220]

"Attending to the will of the people, or let's say attending to the good of the people, is not exactly the same as attending to the easily manipulable whim of the people." Damn that hits hard

[@stevemorrisanamericaninasia]

I learn so much from JP. A true jewel.

[@DUBLL100]

Thank you both for coming to my rooftop for steak 👍 it was an honour to serve you two

[@adamevert1618]

Arabs are reclaimingvit soon...business booming at Ben Gurion departures...how do you like the action?

[@Stecer2007]

@@adamevert1618I guess they will certainly try again…but will certainly fail again.

[@Mk-vd9qs]

​@@adamevert1618it has never been theirs, for thrm to REclaim it. They may try and Conquer the land belonging to Isrsel but will continously fail

[@scoon2117]

Looks delicious!

[@sergeshow4292]

Those two have a real friendship , and truly listen to each other

[@elsenored562]

7:34 Peterson: "What happens is - the politicians pay the consultants to craft questions that deliver to the politicians exactly what they want to hear, and then they say, 'Well, you know, that's what public opinion wants ...' It's unbelievably useless."

[@Foolofatook889]

This series is so beautiful and insightful. I loved it so much. I would love to see more stuff like it.

[@תומרוברכהמריםליניאדו]

Jerusalem ❤❤ my love!!! The holy city ❤

[@RSYoutube1234]

Pure intelligence is magnificent to behold

[@flashwashington2735]

Powerful sharp intelligence is alloyed with love, fired in patience, quenched in wisdom. Not pure at all, unless from above.

[@poiesh]

Just the food will piss of so many people... Two amazing individuals.

[@l.3626]

I love how he eats while talking, I like when its going against the norm and its a more casual conversation

[@BrandonCourt]

Just getting my steak ready before I watch 🍽

[@elijahbenadonai5789]

Yom Tov, Shalom from Philippines🇵🇭!

[@blancarosabeltranvelazquez4176]

I enjoyed this bautifully made video very much!. Thank you for sharing it!. Shabat Sh alom!. ❤

[@Elohims1]

Jordan, Ben, an elegant meal with a most treasured view❤ I wish I was there with you! Elohim BlessU, Mimi Levi in Hawaii

[@InIsrael-n1w]

Are you still in Israel? It would be such a privilege to be able to say Hi here in Jerusalem!! 🤗

[@registeredbio5980]

The man who said “ Give them hell” The history will never forget that hating statement.

[@anewperspective247]

Truth is authority.

[@jamesoliver5688]

His Majesty Yeshua is Truth. Truth is Alive and fully Embodied in Him.❤ Its awesome

[@sylvesterjonas9141]

I am jealousy of their relationship! More power to them!

[@thomasjorge4734]

The Ever-Carniverous Doctor Jordan Peterson!

[@offerisraeli8796]

Jordan Petersawon in a yin and yang suit and Ben Shapiro infront of the old city walls having a deep conversation over lunch (breaking bread together). That is the good life

[@daniellevy2272]

I can listen to Ben talking about The Bible for days

[@ConradoHdz38328]

Why? He doesn't believe in half of it. The good half. The half that gives salvation.

[@denigorelov9909]

@@ConradoHdz38328 you saying the "old" part is bad ? you saying the word of god is wrong ? you saying that the eternal truth in the Pentateuch "Hebrew bible" is false or out dated ?

[@ConradoHdz38328]

@denigorelov9909 No, I say that Ben doesn't believe in the Bible he just believes in th Old Testament. That's what jews believe. ✌️

[@paulrussell6495]

​@denigorelov9909 where did he say word of God was wrong and where did he say Hebrew Bible is wrong ?

[@alenaadamkova7617]

Jaroslav Dušek: "Our assumptions about people and about partner, are so deep in us, that we dont even realize, they are assumptions, we think they are true. Assumptions mess up our mind. When we fall in love, our heart spontaneously opens up and the Universal love energy flows through our heart. The other partner isn´t able to create such great energy, they just started it, but the love energy is Universal. For example the greatest assumption is that after few years of relationship, the other partner stopped feeling the love and attraction, or that their attitude changed, that they stopped understanding us. But the thing is "our" heart closed up little bit, because of some stress. So the love energy couldn´t flow through our heart, but we assume that the other partner did it, that other partner stopped loving us, so we create a conflict and try to change our partner attitude, to feel the great love energy again, even though its not about them. There is enough love in the Universe for everybody, if we open our heart."

[@joryiansmith]

Really beautiful

[@NaProbablyNot]

Love a Ben/Jordan combo

[@ScooterNinja]

Would love to sit on that table quietly and listen to them and eat my lunch.

[@michelletewhata7768]

I would love to visit all the Historical sites, so beautiful

[@SonyaSpencer-zu9kj]

What a wonderful idea Dr. Peterson. I am so excited to follow you on this journey. Seeing the world through a trusted servants eyes. Thank you!

[@Mumbi-e4w]

this is stunning. sublime, even

[@danield2sl]

I’m shocked that they found a place to do this interview this close to the wailing wall… epic

[@smiphel20lag72]

So fortunate to lend my ear to you guys.

[@laur2139]

Good conversation but stunning background that we don’t get the benefit of here in Canada!

[@Gil3490]

'It's good to be the King"

[@henryholderness7230]

That bottle of red looks good, they must have been expecting me😊

[@timandellenmoran1213]

Dinner with Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson, awesome!

[@timandellenmoran1213]

@@hawkeye1776 Perhaps

[@GentleMenschClub]

Such a meaningful content! Thank You 🎉

[@MarianaPotgieter]

Your theory about assessing conscientiousness through a practical, visual task like setting a table and working with friends is quite interesting! Conscientiousness, which includes traits like orderliness, diligence, and reliability, can indeed be observed through behavior in structured tasks. By informing participants that they are being evaluated, you might see how they handle pressure and their attention to detail. Observing them in a group setting can also reveal their teamwork and organizational skills. This allows you to see conscientiousness when just like IQ tests you know prior to the test that you have to concentrate

[@samwinchester218]

great dinner with a good topic, we need that more often with different guests, i like that idea 👍🏻

[@calvinduke4810]

Christ is Lord ✝️🇮🇱🇺🇸

[@yayocowboy]

thank you for your support. I hope wokeness and islam doesn't take your country

[@SaintSpire]

This dinner is beautiful on many levels. Well done. Cant wait to watch & learn. 🖖😎

[@ASX373]

Loved every minute ❤

[@elisheva4]

GOD BLESS YOU FROM JERUSALEM ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡🕎🕎🕎🕎🕎🕎🕎

[@klausdietrich7428]

Jezuz is Eternal kink! Thank u Lord Healing. Can psychology by logic may sum ask?🙏🏿

[@madanhamuchineuta3157]

The production is on point though

[@elijahsantucci7643]

Amazing videography!! love the daily wire and always look forward to hearing Ben And Jordan

[@lucas_delarge]

please give visibility to the censorship in Brazil right now

[@mitsaoriginal8630]

Cook be like: When are they gotta eat their damn food.

[@JB-lp9xr]

Forget whether one believes in God. The real answer is “I don’t believe in Kings.” And THAT is why he can be corrected and criticized.

[@chickenmonger123]

Good evocation. A meal. Rather than the flaccid, painted, and unappetizing offering of the Olympics. Some might say it distracts. But I think it’s an objective of the entire affair in action. To have a dialogue one might find over a meal is itself an indication of many things of significance. The chief being a meeting in the most equal of terms. A sharing of salt as it were. Which matters to anyone who knows of the old ways.

[@michelletewhata7768]

What a beautiful setting ❤

[@BeAlphaX]

The most interesting video I ever watch, my two heroes...

[@chrisrubio8212]

How can you make an argument against slavery without walking down the religious road? Everyone is born with a unique set of gifts and skills, and that gives them the potential to achieve excellence and the desire to unleash that potential. That is the sense in which “all men are created equal.” Anyone who does not make the effort to embody their most courageous, authentic, excellent self is doomed to a life of regret and despair because the saddest thing in life is wasted talent. If you enslave people, and deny their ability to practice courage and authenticity in pursuit of excellence, you are actively making the world a lesser place, and we will not stand for that. The quest for excellence is our highest cultural value because it promotes human thriving. That’s how.

[@whousa642]

Bible gives strict instructions as to how to treat slaves.

[@wikingagresor]

You smuggled some assumptions there buddy. There are also some inconsistencies in your flow of logic. Let's suppose someone has a great talent for making shoes, but he doesn't really want to do it and prefers to drink beer in a tawern. Thus he squanders his talent. Let's suppose my gift is in enslaving people and creating an environment by force mandating them to pursue their talents. In logical conclusions of your worldview not only could I enslave that person, but leaving him free to drink beer will squander my talent and 'leave the world a lesser place'. Humanist ethics can only bring you to utilitarianism, so 'Thanos was right'...😉

[@lubpost4014]

@@wikingagresor you went soft on this guy. He indeed makes a large amount of assumption and i might want to ask him when the world is a better or lesser place because if you dont go down the religous road that is just subjective and so it would just be his opinion that the world is a lesser place and i could just argue that it would be better place and then he doesnt have anything to appeal to to make his point except his own preferences. You can even argue that he is using a religous framework because he says that excellence is the highest cultural value so practically seen that is a God. All this is just his opinion, any other opinion is as valid as his.

[@chrisrubio8212]

@@whousa642 you are right.

[@chrisrubio8212]

@@wikingagresor you are right.

[@candicefelice1042]

More please 🙏🏼

[@flashwashington2735]

Beautiful.

[@merryklascius584]

Daily Wire ,wise move to Bring on Jordan! ❤

[@KimSkid2k]

Jesus Christ, Lord of Lords, King of Kings

[@LovelyBeachCoast-us1ec]

nope god is lords of lords and kings of kings Jesus is not smh 🤦 also hail satan lol 😂🤣😈

[@isaacslevy]

Nah

[@abovemotivationx]

Thank you for this kind of intellectual informative one of the most interesting video...

[@kerrymuir9891]

lol i enjoy the convo but find myself anxious about them eating and talking at the same time

[@Milestonemonger]

The dream team ❤

[@DeAnne1233]

Peterson and Shapiro take a closer walk with Thee? This is going to be interesting. Our very own Council of Nicea (modern times equivalent) discussing the divinity and prophecy of Jesus.

[@MthuyiProduction]

Where is this beautiful place?😮

[@nickdubov8316]

Jerusalem

[@jacoby-wan_kenobi]

4:47 Saul tried to murder David several times including the same scheme where David had Uriah murdered, Saul consulted a necromancer despite the command to put them to death, and Saul refused to kill the king of a morally depraved society. It'd be like not killing Hitler. Saul is nowhere close to "a pretty good guy." The juxtaposition of Saul and David shows that God takes Saul's kingship but doesn't take David's because God loves David and has mercy on David not because David is penitent. In Psalm 51, David asks the Lord for mercy for a sin against a law that requires death and there is no animal sacrifice provided or sufficient to atone for the 6th commandment/murdering Uriah. He literally cannot atone that is why he begs for mercy in Psalm 51.

[@michelletewhata7768]

I love your Suit it’s unique

[@iulia1690]

My two fav guys

[@TheHumanRanger]

@JP The long ad in the middle pushed my thought process off the tracks... can you put it at the end or something?

[@whousa642]

Make your own free videos

[@AraPashaIskander]

Fascinating but worried your dinner is getting cold

[@davemayshow]

Love it

[@jannieboshoff5185]

Damn just love this stuff!

[@therealbs2000]

Unlike Jordan's Steak, WELL DONE 🎉🎉🎉

[@funnygamer678]

love to see jerusalem in the background. would love you to take the rest of the world with you to dine and explore more of isreal. thank you for this.

[@n4049]

Thank you both! I love it that you two are here in Israel ❤🇮🇱🙏🏽

[@Sirnewtzz]

I guess we are now talking at the dinner table with food in our mouths.

[@CJ5EVOLUTION]

Good conversation on a good glass of vine.

[@bilderbuchbastard9419]

I think this law is for cases where the authorities don't seem to have a connection to "real problems" anymore. A good example is Europe.

[@bradleyk4144]

The view is insanely beautiful, the table setting is wonderful, their dialogue is informative, but all that gets ruined by their terrible dining etiquette. Adjust for that and this format is Top Notch.

[@daniellevy2272]

‏‪2:03‬‏ But what's philosophically wrong with doing what gives the best outcome, even if I don't believe it actually exists?

[@CultureCrossed64]

It all depends on what you mean by "wrong." As well as which philosophy you believe more, i suppose

[@orencohen6678]

Hey Jordan, Yuval Noah Harari shared in one of his lectures (on the course titled 'The Laws of History', under a law titled 'History is Complicated'): "The most common (though controversial) solution to this problem [of moral relativisim] is to define morality by using the yardstick of suffering rather than laws." I, for one (even as an agnostic rather than an atheistic), don't believe that you have to believe in God to have a moral yardstick of things such as slavery as well as other matters which are less extreme. I might've understood you wrong; if so, I'd appreciate it if anyone (I know the chances of JBP reading this are slim) corrected me. Oren

[@heyman5525]

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is the whole of the Law. -Jesus Ben and Jordan are great men discussing great things.

[@gretchenboyle481]

How intimate! It’s like we are there too

[@shaulkramer7425]

Jerusalem... how I miss you.

[@biswajeet9826]

I always wonder about one thing the west is based on places where pre abrahamic faiths lived and now obviously they have been wiped out how come that doesn't gets talked about but these sanitised parts are but out like those actions didn't mattered or that doesn't bother you. As much as I like Mr. Peterson this is a aspect that really makes the believers of abrahamic faiths that scary no remorse whatsoever. Destruction of colonies in recent history and previously as well is truly a aspect that doesn't get that much traction.

[@Elohims1]

It matters, ultimately, what God thinks, not the opposing voices. David thought so, and the giant was conquered!

[@peterlombard2292]

For a moment I was thinking that would be a dinner I would like to be at but then I thought, really? What would my contribution be to that of Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson - "food tastes good don't you think?" Apart from the obvious and somewhat clich130ed people of history, I really would love to be able to be at a dinner with these two guys, if only to listen.

[@barakfishel9044]

all I could think of after the first 5 minuets is how cold are the steaks they are eating 🤣

[@pollyester6639]

Wow what a setting

[@connielipp8648]

Wow, I wonder how many times I have to re-subscribe, again!..