When World Views Collide

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AronRa

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@karenmiller6088
@karenmiller6088 9 ай бұрын
I'm turning 60 this year. I spent the last 10 years reading the Bible over and over and over again searching for the truth. The lies fell to the wayside as the truth became more and more clear. Man invented God... not the other way around. The bible is one very messed up collection of confusion that has evolved into what it is today. I love how you describe truth. It's not something that a religious person can grasp because they actually believe that should they question the bible, they'll burn in hell for eternity. After nearly 60 years of religious indoctrination since birth. I am truly free! Free from the lies, free from making others rich from my tithes, free from trying to figure out how to get to heaven and free from the fear of hell. Hello Science! I have so much to learn and I can't get enough truth! I need to live to at least 100 to catch up! Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos. You are a REAL blessing. ❤
@sirrevzalot
@sirrevzalot 9 ай бұрын
Glad you saw through the nonsense. Everyone who gets there does so on their time. You’re here now, and that’s great! Congrats 🎉
@ellbee2439
@ellbee2439 9 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say here. Kudos to Aron Ra for not giving in or giving up!
@MrCanucklehead75
@MrCanucklehead75 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fhstop projecting your insanity on others
@chainslayer101
@chainslayer101 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Love you guys
@chainslayer101
@chainslayer101 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Love you guys
@Awakened_Mucacha
@Awakened_Mucacha 9 ай бұрын
I find that the dumbest are often the boldest in conversations.
@Strype13
@Strype13 9 ай бұрын
Imagine someone calling you "unreasonable" while their entire perspective is based on believing every word in the Bible without any rational reasoning whatsoever.
@robinbeers6689
@robinbeers6689 9 ай бұрын
As Aron goes gray, he is getting that Gandalf look. The wise wizard. It suits him.
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 9 ай бұрын
YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!!!!!
@rainbowsorceress2082
@rainbowsorceress2082 9 ай бұрын
​@@mistylover7398fly, you fools!
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 9 ай бұрын
@@rainbowsorceress2082 never
@slowmotionatheist
@slowmotionatheist 9 ай бұрын
​​@@mistylover7398 he said to willfully ignorant theists.
@LanceHall
@LanceHall 9 ай бұрын
Yes, he should embrace the look.
@Korva_Avia
@Korva_Avia 7 ай бұрын
I'm Irish, and I agreed with everything you were saying until the "no such thing as Leprechauns" line. 😮 let's just pretend you didn't say that. lol, 🤣
@TheSozeone
@TheSozeone 9 ай бұрын
Recently my dad tried to make me pray to God, when i revealed to him that i don't believe in God, he became ashamed of me and refuses to talk to me. You have helped me realize that im not crazy for wanting to simply belive in the truth and evidence, thank you aron
@hypotheticalaxolotl
@hypotheticalaxolotl 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like you got the better deal. Family being family is one thing, but if they're willing to cut you off over a disagreement like that, then you might grow better as a person being away from their influence.
@DrownedInExile
@DrownedInExile 9 ай бұрын
He got mad because you don't want to be friends with his imaginary BFF. And he's afraid that you're right. What good is shame from him?
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 9 ай бұрын
@@DrownedInExile The manipulation is in how they keep trying to twist things around evasively, tiring out their stressed out targets in ways that seem to amuse their medically untreated narcissism framework that defines them. I moved 4 hours rather than 3 away from otherwise familiarity, 3 didnt seem like it might get in the way of potentially dangerous people that have a history of getting away with what they do, and if they wont play fair, theres no knowing how they could react accordingly as they may wish to shove another victim impact statement under a unmarked grave type of rug, and we all know that the coblers or potential coblers of cement shoes dont seem to care that nobody ever really walked on water. Please be safe, please be tomorrow. #TheDigitalLifeguardProject-_-
@truetech4158
@truetech4158 9 ай бұрын
@@hypotheticalaxolotl Ya, because stockholm syndrome compliant expectations from manipulative marginalizers with authoritarian frameworks just dont seem to fly well, we've seen em slam into the sides of buildings even by maliable manipulated cognitively disabled otherwise individuals.
@sarge420
@sarge420 9 ай бұрын
His lose
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 9 ай бұрын
When you have facts you do not need faith, and when you have faith you don't care about facts.
@Limited_Light
@Limited_Light 9 ай бұрын
That's noootttt entiiirrrely accurate. Many that have faith know a lot but simply don't let go of faith in contradiction to the last few facts.
@JGM0JGM
@JGM0JGM 9 ай бұрын
@@Limited_Light Not quite. Can you show a case where some one has faith in God AND has facts to support their belief? Which facts do they have?
@dwentlandt1022
@dwentlandt1022 9 ай бұрын
@@Limited_Lightmaybe in a certain portion of cases but, when people of “faith” say they know the facts and agree with those facts also turn around and say that those facts don’t mean anything to them because they must keep the faith or they don’t care about those facts because god is real.
@jameswright...
@jameswright... 9 ай бұрын
​@@Limited_Light Why hang on if you care about facts 😂
@missk1697
@missk1697 9 ай бұрын
Dalai Lama would disagree
@donaldyanson8144
@donaldyanson8144 9 ай бұрын
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire
@conspiracy1914
@conspiracy1914 9 ай бұрын
that applies to the governments of majority of countries
@CardPicker-xo2hg
@CardPicker-xo2hg 9 ай бұрын
Indeed. Now what about; "New Evidence for the Shroud of Turin w/ Fr. Andrew Dalton"
@AXKfUN9m
@AXKfUN9m 9 ай бұрын
@@CardPicker-xo2hg The shroud of Turin have been completely debunked. Material analysis shows that no blood is present and is in fact ochre pigment painted with techniques identical to those used by artists from the 14th century.
@page8301
@page8301 9 ай бұрын
@@CardPicker-xo2hg What about it?
@Dan_C604
@Dan_C604 9 ай бұрын
“Believers define truth as whatever lies they want to believe, and define lies as whatever truths they want to reject.” Aron Ra - Awesome!!!!
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 9 ай бұрын
Except for that any theist can simply reverse it back around and make the same statement as accurately about athiests,... especially Aron ra.
@meowmeow8776
@meowmeow8776 9 ай бұрын
It's all a lie.
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 9 ай бұрын
@@meowmeow8776 ...is that true?
@WillyPhonken
@WillyPhonken 8 ай бұрын
​@@gregsanich5183 What truth is he rejecting? Let me guess: Your specific stupid fairy tale?
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 8 ай бұрын
@@WillyPhonken... the same as whatever truths the theists are rejecting? ......what were those again?
@raymondthebrotherofperryma1403
@raymondthebrotherofperryma1403 9 ай бұрын
If it were real, faith wouldn't be necessary.
@BrahmsLiszt
@BrahmsLiszt 9 ай бұрын
I read the bible, cover to cover, when I was 9-10 ish. That’s the main reason I’m an atheist. Contrary to the claim that no-one can read the bible and not believe, I would claim the opposite. If you actually read all of it, it’s obviously both nonsense and horrifying.
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 9 ай бұрын
Izn't gawd actually EVIL
@flaming_bentley
@flaming_bentley 9 ай бұрын
Same here. Read it cover to cover when I was about 11 and was horrified. This began my path to atheism
@michaelmoore7975
@michaelmoore7975 9 ай бұрын
It is a very common theme among atheists that the decision making process of a child has dictated without question what they believe the rest of their lives.
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 9 ай бұрын
@@flaming_bentley izn't gawd actually EVIL and da religious believers sickos praise God for it guz just guz he can do whatever he wants.
@jonovens7974
@jonovens7974 9 ай бұрын
About the same age - made Religious Education classes interesting a year or so later (got thrown out ). In the nearly 50 years later I have not managed to find a more horrendous character, than god, in any book I've read since.
@CharlesDriver-hj4xp
@CharlesDriver-hj4xp 9 ай бұрын
This is typical of religious people who say what they think is true and run away when the narrative goes against them. Enjoy your trip my friend and keep up the fight against ignorance.
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 9 ай бұрын
✝️⚔️⚛️
@alelzarterl212
@alelzarterl212 9 ай бұрын
They start out very eager to debate and escape cowardly shortly thereafter 😂. It always happens to me.
@DudeTheMighty
@DudeTheMighty 9 ай бұрын
I've heard intellectual honesty defined as "the willingness to accept unpleasant truths and reject comforting lies". I think that's something that is sorely lacking, not just in the devoutly religious but in the general population.
@bluecrystal3900
@bluecrystal3900 9 ай бұрын
Yes very much so
@AbandonedVoid
@AbandonedVoid 9 ай бұрын
This is why I think "friendly atheists" like Drew from Genetically Modified Skeptic or Paulogia are going about things all wrong. They're reaffirming people's bias towards pleasant interactions and beliefs, even to the point of attracting theist fans.
@CliffSedge-nu5fv
@CliffSedge-nu5fv 9 ай бұрын
It's understandable. Reality sucks. Truth hurts. Of course people make up or cling to a fantasy that makes them feel better.
@hypotheticalaxolotl
@hypotheticalaxolotl 9 ай бұрын
@@AbandonedVoid Why is attracting theist fans bad? If the goal is to present evidence and hopefully get more people to accept reality, well... Those are the people who are currently not accepting reality. They're the ones who you need to be talking to. Them being fans means they're at least listening to you. If you just want an echo chamber, then sure, go ham on them. If it's just about making yourself feel better and smarter than them, then go ahead. But if you want people who currently don't agree to at least *listen* to your perspective, then yelling at them is just gonna make them throw psychological walls up. It's not anything specific to them, that's just how human psychology works. Nobody wants to admit that the jerk telling them they're stupid is actually *right*.
@Leith_Crowther
@Leith_Crowther 9 ай бұрын
@@AbandonedVoidThey’re not wrong per se; they definitely lead people to atheism, and I think anything that makes more people right or good is a good thing. What they might be wrong about is any belief that their approach is the better one, because it isn’t. Actually, I’ve heard Drew endorse what he calls a “hybrid approach,” where he acknowledges it takes nice guys like him and meanies like Aron to achieve the greatest impact.
@tyronnemoss
@tyronnemoss 9 ай бұрын
I know who you’re talking about Aron, I think it’s very respectful of you not to name them. Great video.👍🏾
@davidwatson2399
@davidwatson2399 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh Troll
@MrCanucklehead75
@MrCanucklehead75 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fhwhy are you so afraid of facts, coward?
@RictusHolloweye
@RictusHolloweye 9 ай бұрын
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh - Last time I heard "arguments" like yours was in 6th grade.
@ukamikazu
@ukamikazu 9 ай бұрын
I'd like to comment about ignorance. My dad told me ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of because by its very definition it is temporary and fixable. We're all ignorant about something at some point in time or another. Not fixing one's own ignorance is the real problem and the word stupid is perfect for describing that state, hence, why I prefer not to use the word ignorant as a pejorative. Just my 2¢.
@DaveB-hg7el
@DaveB-hg7el 9 ай бұрын
This makes me recall an old saying "ignorance is fixable, stupidity is forever". Lol
@hypotheticalaxolotl
@hypotheticalaxolotl 9 ай бұрын
Way I see it, if you're wrong about something - you're just wrong. It doesn't matter what you feel about it, it doesn't matter how much arguing you do about it - it's simply that you're either right about something, or you're wrong about it. Better to own up to it and get it over with than whine about it - sooner you acknowledge you're wrong, the sooner you can start being right. Also helps to not decide what's right and wrong before ya get proper information and logical reasoning about the topic, either - but that's a different facet.
@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy
@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy 9 ай бұрын
“Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.” - Benjamin Franklin “In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.” - Donny Miller [*wrong, irrational choice] #LMGTFY “True ignorance* is not the absence of knowledge, but the refusal to acquire it.” - Karl Popper + “Ignorance* is not a simple lack of knowledge but an active aversion to knowledge, the refusal to know, issuing from cowardice, pride, or laziness of mind.” - Karl Popper [*psychologists now use the term “motivated ignorance”, sometimes called “willful ignorance”] “Ignorance is not just what you don’t know, it’s also what you won’t know.” - Aron Ra “No one is dumb who is curious. The people who don’t ask questions remain clueless throughout their lives.” - Neil deGrasse Tyson “I believe that it would be worth trying to learn something about the world even if in trying to do so we should merely learn that we do not know much. This state of learned ignorance might be a help in many of our troubles. It might be well for all of us to remember that, while differing widely in the various little bits we know, in our infinite ignorance we are all equal.” - Karl Popper, _On the Sources of Knowledge and of Ignorance_ (Annual Philosophical Lecture read before the British Academy on 1960-01-20) [*This is false. There is a massive gap between those those who somewhat agree with the value and importance of the quest for good expectations, and even the above quote and its implications, and those who somewhat disagree]
@Angel-nl1hp
@Angel-nl1hp 9 ай бұрын
Ignorance is simply the state of not knowing something. Stupidity is refusal to fix it.
@michaelburk9171
@michaelburk9171 9 ай бұрын
It's willful ignorance that's the problem
@jrskp3677
@jrskp3677 9 ай бұрын
It's scary to grasp the level of dishonesty believers must have to remain as they are.
@loonyman83
@loonyman83 9 ай бұрын
How you have the patience to continuously talk with people like that is amazing to me. At some point I gotta get away for my own sanity! lol
@theboombody
@theboombody 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, a lot of religious people can't temporarily put themselves in the shoes of a secular person. But that doesn't mean you won't stumble upon some that can here and there. Those are the ones you should seek out if you'd rather do something than just make fun of a person making themselves look bad on the internet, and you want to seriously consider if there could potentially be anything beyond the material world of our senses and the scientific tools that enhance our senses.
@Rune-Wolf
@Rune-Wolf 9 ай бұрын
They probably called you a liar because that's a big thing in religious dogma, especially Christianity. I had to learn about the "lies from the enemy" while growing up, both through general scripture at school and through Mormon stuff at the church my mum's a member of.
@mistylover7398
@mistylover7398 9 ай бұрын
Yup. Religious decepticons
@SceptiGus
@SceptiGus 9 ай бұрын
I'm only now figuring these things out. At 65, it's hard to not feel that I've wasted my life.
@lxoxrxexnx
@lxoxrxexnx 9 ай бұрын
In life some waste is inevitable. What is not waste is your testimony that it is truly possible to make a major change of belief even late in life. That is something important for me to know.
@hughmongus6959
@hughmongus6959 9 ай бұрын
Religion or not, your life has always been yours. It may be disheartening to feel as though you've been living a lie, but regardless, you have been living. And you've made decisions. And experienced many, many things in all that time. If you ask me, a life like that hasn't been wasted at all. If anything, the next chapter of your life has just begun. I'm just 23, but I hope this perspective helps you a bit
@quicknick5458
@quicknick5458 9 ай бұрын
You are the smartest most articulate person I've ever known of. Thank you. An avowed atheist since my early 20's, I'm 69 now. If there were a god, I'd expect him to make a public appearance, rather than condemn Muslims and non believers to hell.
@MrCanucklehead75
@MrCanucklehead75 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fhyou should stop lying and take your own advice
@johnroemeeks
@johnroemeeks 9 ай бұрын
God did make a public appearance, Jesus of Nazareth. And he came and died so people wouldn't have to be condemned to Hell for their sin. If you reject him, then that's on you
@MrCanucklehead75
@MrCanucklehead75 9 ай бұрын
@@johnroemeeks But that never happened. Hell doesn't exist and neither do your imaginary friends, no matter how serious you take your fan fiction.
@hypotheticalaxolotl
@hypotheticalaxolotl 9 ай бұрын
@@johnroemeeks Your god should know exactly what would convince me he exists and how to do it without violating free will (which doesn't actually matter in the Bible but you folks always like to cling to it so I'll make sure to mention it). (No, a bunch of biased writers making up myths that fall in line with the kinds of myths humans tend to make up does not count as convincing to me evidence.) Your god also really wants me to join up with him, right? That "all loving god" thing. And yet he doesn't do that extremely simple thing that would convince me that he's on the level. Which tells us one of three things. A) He does not actually love me enough to do that. B) He cannot manage this relatively simple feat. C) He does not exist to do either A or B. Pick one. There aren't any other options. Either he won't, he can't, or there is no he. None of these options are all that great for the truth of your religion. Remember - he knows *exactly* what would convince *ME* in particular. And you, and Aron, and every single other human of the exact, particular thing he wants us to be aware of - something that clearly he cares about, considering all the revelations he's supposed to have imparted. And yet we don't all agree, at least on *what* he's saying? You'd think that would be step one for the tri-omni god, creator of the universe.
@hypotheticalaxolotl
@hypotheticalaxolotl 9 ай бұрын
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh Man, why are you here? Go outside, learn a skill, read a book. Anything would be better than wasting your time trolling people with these pithy little sentences.
@stevenbatke2475
@stevenbatke2475 9 ай бұрын
The “no response”, is an answer. Without saying anything, their silence says “Oh shit! I might actually be wrong about this! Better not admit it.”
@marcgenevey
@marcgenevey 9 ай бұрын
I don't know how you manage to deal with those kind of people on daily basis...
@jamesnewman8011
@jamesnewman8011 8 ай бұрын
I live in the Bible Belt. You just avoid the topics unless you want a pointless debate. You can't convince them.
@sergehychko3659
@sergehychko3659 9 ай бұрын
Discussing things with people, who believe that "nuh-uh" is an argument, is playing chess with a pigeon.
@Freehotdawgs
@Freehotdawgs 9 ай бұрын
Aron, your work helped my wife and I get out of the cult of religion. I am so grateful that you put in so much work in this and in showing how reality really is. My wife and I were both raised as Christians. I later morphed into Judaism and she actually went to Bob Jones university and was working there when we met. Since we were of different faith, we wanted to investigate honestly into our own, each other’s, and opposing beliefs. People like you and Paulogia helped us see all of it for what it really is and I think it really strengthened our relationship with each other in the end. Thank you.
@Troubleshooter125
@Troubleshooter125 9 ай бұрын
Aron, I read this AGES ago, and it's one of the sad truths about what you're doing: _It is impossible to debate a person who will not handicap themselves with a knowledge of the facts._ -- Anon.
@Angel-nl1hp
@Angel-nl1hp 9 ай бұрын
My old math professor would call someone who clearly did not know what they are talking about "unfettered by any factual knowledge". I have seen very few persons to whom this applies more than flat earth advocates and young earth creationists.
@theboombody
@theboombody 9 ай бұрын
What facts? There are a zillion facts in this world. Way more than anyone can ever know. So since we can't know them all, we need to pick which ones to know. I majored in math and accounting and learned facts in those fields. Should I have spent my time learning anti-religion facts instead?
@spybird5870
@spybird5870 9 ай бұрын
@@theboombody yes, you personally need to know everything, not the experts of any field that you can find out about, reference to others etc. oh and start from the fact that "zillion" isn't a number, maths and accounting major.
@theboombody
@theboombody 9 ай бұрын
@@spybird5870 Well, a million is expressed in scientific notation as 1x10^6. We wouldn't be out of order in classifying a zillion as 1x10^54. That's a pretty huge number and 54 is divisible by 3 so it would still have a first digit of 1 with a comma after it.
@charlesseiderman29
@charlesseiderman29 9 ай бұрын
I'd rather have questions that can't be answered, then answers that can't be questioned. Feynman
@dbehistun2767
@dbehistun2767 9 ай бұрын
He Speaks the 'True True'
@charliesimar7541
@charliesimar7541 9 ай бұрын
Say it loud! I was about 15 years old when I really started to think about what I was taught in the Mennonite Church, of which I was a confirmed member. For years later I enlisted in the Army and discovered a totally foreign world. I came to the position of requiring evidence for my opinions.
@blargblarg7875
@blargblarg7875 9 ай бұрын
A common thing on Facebook from apologists is for them to pretend they know what is going on in someone's head when they never even met the person. I have a hard time imagining something more dishonest.
@lxoxrxexnx
@lxoxrxexnx 9 ай бұрын
I have come across that often, and I call them out on that. The other thing I get is personal attacks when they begin to realize that they are not going to win the argument honestly.
@CardPicker-xo2hg
@CardPicker-xo2hg 9 ай бұрын
I think that's the other way around sometimes. All I want is Aron to watch, and try debunk this; "New Evidence for the Shroud of Turin w/ Fr. Andrew Dalton" Hasn't yet. Been at least a month of requesting.
@blargblarg7875
@blargblarg7875 9 ай бұрын
@@CardPicker-xo2hg All the evidence available show that it was made in the 13th century. The carbon dating, the pattern of the weave, the thread count, all show it to be from a millennia later.
@CardPicker-xo2hg
@CardPicker-xo2hg 9 ай бұрын
@@blargblarg7875 Ah yep, I suppose the scientists lied. Wouldn't surprise me.
@lxoxrxexnx
@lxoxrxexnx 9 ай бұрын
@@CardPicker-xo2hg what’s so special about that video that would intrigue Aron or anyone else to watch?
@1ApeinSpace
@1ApeinSpace 9 ай бұрын
Great job, I enjoy your work.
@davidlampert6960
@davidlampert6960 9 ай бұрын
I have a good test you can use, have them take thier bible and a highlighter. ask them to read through the bible and highlight anything that if removed would make the book better. if they can't find anything you know they are a monster, if they do the book has lost it's value as being from a god.
@raptorcrasherinc.9823
@raptorcrasherinc.9823 9 ай бұрын
Good test for anyone questioning their faith already, but they would probably disagree that they are a monster if they do not remove anything.
@johnfox9169
@johnfox9169 9 ай бұрын
You described the essential difference between science and religion, and it is one reason I shun religion .
@jimgillert20
@jimgillert20 9 ай бұрын
Talking about this perspective is so true and real. I was secular public schooled. Yet my critical thinking skills were maybe only 2 out of 10. I had not even heard of the critical thinking checkpoints i found online later in life. You are des ribing us!
@aubreyleonae4108
@aubreyleonae4108 9 ай бұрын
So true, so true. And yet it seems I'm to recognize the suuperiorty of their views, out of hand. . . As if they are rational and I've lost my senses.
@alliet.7582
@alliet.7582 9 ай бұрын
Is it strange that the thought that the chemicals that make me (iron, carbon, magnesium, etc) will continue on after I'm gone is comforting to me? I know when I'm gone, I'm done. But it's like those parts of me are eternal, especially at a molecular level. We are made of Star Dust, and to Star Dust we return.
@alliet.7582
@alliet.7582 9 ай бұрын
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh Not an assumption; science: www.acs.org/content/dam/acsorg/education/resources/highschool/chemmatters/articlesbytopic/nuclearchemistry/chemmatters-oct2009-origin-chem-elem.pdf
@davidwatson2399
@davidwatson2399 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh Troll
@MrCanucklehead75
@MrCanucklehead75 9 ай бұрын
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh it does make you ignorant of facts, as usual.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 9 ай бұрын
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh If you try to deride the knowledge other people have that you are too lazy or afraid to obtain then you are only mocking yourself.
@rainbowsorceress2082
@rainbowsorceress2082 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fhthe circus is in the other direction, this is no place for clowns
@TorqueDonkeyTeethLewith
@TorqueDonkeyTeethLewith 9 ай бұрын
I find you as a very patient man in order to deal with the type of folk you do on a regular basis, I do not agree with all of your positions, but I do know you have a highly intelligent, intricate mind. The world needs more people like you, people who have the guts to stand up for education and reason. Most believers I think unfortunately have no idea that their position is as dishonest as it is in reality due to indoctrination, and the widespread misinformation mainstream religion delivers to naïve congregations. Because pastors' paychecks depend on dishonesty, it may be a while before reason prevails to willful ignorance.
@georgem2334
@georgem2334 9 ай бұрын
Fundamentalist Christians project more than an IMAX movie theatre.
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 9 ай бұрын
....is it irony, when someone tries to project their own projection?
@ShaunDibley
@ShaunDibley 9 ай бұрын
@@gregsanich5183 No, it’s hypocrisy if they know what their doing and it’s stupidity if they don’t - now you just need to consider which best describes your position.
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 9 ай бұрын
@@ShaunDibleybut I havnt taken a position
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 9 ай бұрын
@@ShaunDibley but I havnt taken a position ....
@gregsanich5183
@gregsanich5183 9 ай бұрын
@@ShaunDibley what position?
@rbilleaud
@rbilleaud 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call my atheism a "world view", merely a lack of belief in a deity. Believers like to call it a world view, but I reject that.
@MaklaryZoltan-lu9ji
@MaklaryZoltan-lu9ji 9 ай бұрын
Most of them aren't even able to understand that it's just a disbelief, and atheists are the ones who make claims. So boring to explain that to them.
@mball5
@mball5 9 ай бұрын
Your videos help me relax Aron. I luckily have parents who claim to believe in god and do go to church regularly, do not treat me or my brothers (all atheists) differently just because we are atheists. I know not everyone is as lucky. Still, your videos are educational, humorous (in the positive dry way), and respectful. Thank you my friend
@CharlesPayet
@CharlesPayet 9 ай бұрын
My parents and sister have always continued loving me and respecting me since I stopped believing in god 20 years ago, even though they continue to believe. Well - my sister & Mom do; Dad passed away 3 years ago. We’re the fortunate ones, for sure.
@AbstractM0use
@AbstractM0use 9 ай бұрын
Anytime a "newbie" in the creationist/religious debate comes on board, just grab the "Creationist Bingo Card" and start checking them off. They'll go through every single one of them.
@Obligate.Carnivore
@Obligate.Carnivore 9 ай бұрын
AronRa- keep up the great work!! I always come back to you for ammunition!! Thanks Brother.
@rogereverett4467
@rogereverett4467 9 ай бұрын
I need these 15 minute sermons about once or twice a week.
@raptorcrasherinc.9823
@raptorcrasherinc.9823 9 ай бұрын
I think that religious people seriously believe that if we discard their stories then they can discard our evidence. They do not realize that we have facts on our side. They want so badly for this to be an even playing field of one religion against another because they cannot grapple with the fact that we can show them to be wrong.
@nagranoth_
@nagranoth_ 9 ай бұрын
they think their stories ARE facts on their side. They think these are truths more deep than demonstrable facts, they value story over reality.
@raptorcrasherinc.9823
@raptorcrasherinc.9823 9 ай бұрын
@@nagranoth_ Yes. They are told that this story is from god and then ignore all the evidence that proves that it is not from god, then they use that to ignore everything that is actually true.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 9 ай бұрын
The street preacher fan didn't understand why people laugh at the carnival barker, going on to request that I watch his "movie" and tell him one lie. KZbin was being KZbin that day and deleted some of my responses for no apparent reason, as it does, but I pointed him to a long autopsy of the "film" from a decade ago, and told him that if he merely does a search ion this site he'll find hours and hours and hours more.
@Jin420
@Jin420 9 ай бұрын
As a South Korean with very traditional family -- I grew up with "forced obedience." (One of those "do as you're told" type of bs) Even with that upbringing -- there's no way I'll willingly "obey" some nonexistent deity or any churches, etc.... I've tried religion... it just didn't work out. 🤷🏻‍♀️💯 Plus -- I can't deny facts & reality... that's the bottom line. 💯
@davidwatson2399
@davidwatson2399 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh You don't know what a fact is
@MG-ot2yr
@MG-ot2yr 9 ай бұрын
I'm convinced that some people just aren't wired for adopting unsupported beliefs. I rejected the religious indoctrination as a child, and that was 60 years ago, and I'm no different now.
@MrCanucklehead75
@MrCanucklehead75 9 ай бұрын
​@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fhyou're projecting your own ignorance and cowardice. That's the problem
@MG-ot2yr
@MG-ot2yr 9 ай бұрын
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fh You're the ignorant one. You believe in nonsense that have no facts backing it up.
@Obligate.Carnivore
@Obligate.Carnivore 9 ай бұрын
@@EnthusiasticTent-xt8fhyour god either doesn’t care or is a total POS! There would be no Atheists if your god or any god would show up!! But it/they don’t, ever. I’m sure you’re the type that hires a physician for a surgery and when it goes correctly you say praise god and say no praise to the one that actually did the work! The Doctor! If your god was so powerful why go to the doctor? Just pray and leave it in your god’s hands? Huh? Not enough faith? Naaa you just know better and won’t admit it it!
@treefrog3349
@treefrog3349 9 ай бұрын
It is a poignantly curious thing that the word "lie" is in the middle of the word beLIEve!
@donaldyanson8144
@donaldyanson8144 9 ай бұрын
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
@neuralsoup
@neuralsoup 9 ай бұрын
Knowledge is the basis of informed action
@redearth8256
@redearth8256 9 ай бұрын
Ignorance is blindness that works evil -Lao Tzu
@ThroneofDavid8
@ThroneofDavid8 9 ай бұрын
And ignorance, or evil doesn't know or care to know God.
@CNCmachiningisfun
@CNCmachiningisfun 9 ай бұрын
@@ThroneofDavid8 Which god? There are so many to choose from!
@ThroneofDavid8
@ThroneofDavid8 9 ай бұрын
@@CNCmachiningisfun The one that started the church.
@haynehifanny8006
@haynehifanny8006 9 ай бұрын
Aron, I can't thank you enough for breaking the shackles of religion and setting me free from lies and lies. Now at 66, I'm seeing from true perspective rather than allow religious charlatans to be at the driving seat. Great thans for your videos.
@DarrenGenge
@DarrenGenge 9 ай бұрын
Aron, love your vids brother. In Canada we seem not to talk about religion at all. Even the abortion debate is on mute. The JWs are even quiet! Looking forward to next nock on the door, because of your inspiration. My biggest beef would be the treatment of women as 2nd class to men. Keep it up! Darren, Halifax, NS
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 9 ай бұрын
Those are just two of the things I love about this country - overt displays of religiosity by politicians are largely looked upon with a "Keep it in your pants" attitude, and every time conservatives try to fcuk around with the right to choose, it's political poison for them.
@martin2289
@martin2289 9 ай бұрын
Generally speaking, Canadians find people that push religion into other people's faces to be rude and even somewhat obnoxious. For politicians here, being loud and proud about your religious faith is suicidal. Thank God! ;)
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 9 ай бұрын
@@martin2289 Preach it, brother! ;) And speaking of suicide, that's another good thing we have up here: national legalized medically-assisted euthanasia. Another good piece of legislation that supports bodily autonomy.
@DaveB-hg7el
@DaveB-hg7el 9 ай бұрын
Wish it was like this in the US. 😢
@johncheese1705
@johncheese1705 9 ай бұрын
This feels all too familiar, usually when I end up talking to creationists. It always hurts when you get accused of lying especially when you have the mountain of evidence for evolution and an old earth at your back.
@robynsnest8668
@robynsnest8668 9 ай бұрын
I just want to say thank you for all you do and for your help on my path.
@jpammirata6389
@jpammirata6389 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Aron Ra. What you do is impacting many and the debates you put yourself through just for us is awesome.
@lukamtc9188
@lukamtc9188 9 ай бұрын
20 seconds ago 43 views youve got a handful of loyal fans there...
@eminemilly
@eminemilly 9 ай бұрын
One of his old videos on the history of Christianity and other religions was eye opening for me years ago when I was young
@martinelzen5127
@martinelzen5127 9 ай бұрын
Gawd what a dee eye cee kay. Gettin' flashbacks to when I had to deal with those bullies. Hey Aron, I do truly believe that a person's measure is proved by their enemies. You sure are proving your true worth. Keep on keeping on!
@jjw56
@jjw56 9 ай бұрын
Great sermon!! Amun
@lxoxrxexnx
@lxoxrxexnx 9 ай бұрын
Every point you made is just what I recently experienced when debating a believer.
@jeffholland3502
@jeffholland3502 9 ай бұрын
- I Love these warranted rants of yours. You are one of my favorite people.
@mrmega54
@mrmega54 Ай бұрын
@aronra the first 2 minutes of this video describes how I grew up! And it caused an infinite amount of pain and suffering, mistrust of other kind humans, and not being involved with other cultures. So sad of an existence, it’s taking currently years of therapy. Micro-society cults because of religion are an overlooked aspect of fundamental religious beliefs. Thank you Aron
@Kobebryantfan24ful
@Kobebryantfan24ful 9 ай бұрын
I left during high school, made the mistake of asking questions. I had to navigate the racial angle being black, familial strife, intra community shaming, etc. I came upon Sam Harris, Dawkins, Krauss (before his incident), Hitchens and yourself. I thank you for helping me stay strong 💪🏿. Keep up the great work
@georgevcelar
@georgevcelar 9 ай бұрын
The two biggest problems when discussing religion with theists is (a) when the discussion moves away from their script they almost always resort to rather dishonest excuses and end up with ad hominem; and (b) it usually take more time to explain the simple things than their attention span allows. Assuming of course, you can move the discussion past the point of monologue from the beginning.
@tofu_golem
@tofu_golem 9 ай бұрын
Speaking of admitting that you're wrong, I'm glad you came around on the mythicist thing. A lot of KZbin atheists are wasting time arguing about mythicism when there are much more substantive arguments to be made that debunk Christianity.
@nagranoth_
@nagranoth_ 9 ай бұрын
Mythicism isn't about debunking christianity..... Christianity is obviously false to begin with. Mythicism is not arguing the obvious point that christianity does not match reality, that's a given. It's arguing the much more academic point that on top of being obviously false the BASIS of the religion isn't even what the majority of people think it is. Mythicism is saying christians aren't just wrong, they're wrong about the wrong things. It's saying that not only is the resurrection story obviously false, it wasn't even meant to be about a physical character in this reality in the first place (and so on). Clearly mythicism is about how to understand the religion academically; not about debunking points that are obviously false anyway, but about these points not actually even being the topic. It doesn't make sense to say there are more substantive arguments that Debunk Christianity, where mythicism says "well, duh, obviously that stuff isn't real for all the reasons you mentioned... but that's not the actual stuff anyway"
@CalamariPlaysStarfield
@CalamariPlaysStarfield 9 ай бұрын
"Those who have no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence" or I think that's the quote.
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 9 ай бұрын
"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
@MalBishop18
@MalBishop18 9 ай бұрын
Great work as always, I don’t know where you find the patience lol I’ll need to get you a beer or something on the boat in a few days
@AronRa
@AronRa 9 ай бұрын
Are you going to be in the Freethought Cruise?
@MalBishop18
@MalBishop18 9 ай бұрын
@@AronRa That’s the plan, providing my air plane stays together lol I’m coming down from a little town RI, for a much needed vacation around relatively sane and rational people. Or failing that, cool drinks and nice view.
@DaxxTerryGreen
@DaxxTerryGreen 9 ай бұрын
Great work Aron. Please keep at it.
@DomRoy-w7r
@DomRoy-w7r 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Aron Ra, you always make eminent sense......
@Shae-ni1fi
@Shae-ni1fi 9 ай бұрын
I can’t exactly pinpoint when I began or finally rejected the Christian faith I was raised to believe in, because it was a gradual process. However, even after I was no longer a Christian, I would have nightmares and panic attacks over exploring evolution and physics and, therefore, sought therapy for religious trauma. I had graduated the University of Michigan with a 3.84 majoring in psychology and sociology still not believing evolution and would compartmentalize my education vs religion, if this makes any sense. The Bill Nye/ Ken Ham debate caused me to reconsider my beliefs. I’ve always enjoyed researching and scrapbooking, so a friend who has a Masters degree in engineering encouraged me to spend a year researching and noting all the evidence for or against evolution. He knew I wanted the truth and would be willing to work through the cognitive dissonance. You have encouraged me to think critically and explore the evidence regardless of what I *originally* wanted to be true. You have been instrumental in helping me to helping me to truly deconstruct my faith and I thank you for it. It was approximately an 18 month process for me to stop having panic attacks over studying science due to my Evangelical upbringing, but it just occurred to me that I haven’t had any panic attacks in over three years and have been truly set free. Thank-you so very much.
@Shae-ni1fi
@Shae-ni1fi 9 ай бұрын
I would also like to add that I was raised in a sect similar to Quiverfull and was able to leave a controlling, abusive relationship with my five children. We are happy now.
@AronRa
@AronRa 9 ай бұрын
@@Shae-ni1fiThank you for sharing that. My wife went through years of nightmares over leaving her faith. Harsh.
@Shae-ni1fi
@Shae-ni1fi 9 ай бұрын
@@AronRaYou’re welcome. ❤ I used to feel that there was no harm in people believing in a fictitious god if it gave them strength, but since changed my mind considering how religion has affected people like your wife and I and society at large.
@MartinJames389
@MartinJames389 9 ай бұрын
Brian: "Why aren't women allowed to go to stonings?" Brian's Mum (on her way to a stoning, stopping to purchase a false beard): "It is written, that's why." Monty Python hits the nail on the head. When only very few people were literate, they were perceived as very clever and wise, so what they wrote was easily viewed as some sort of revelation of truth. They must be intermediaries with some mysterious higher power. "It is written" no longer has that mystique. It is written that Daz washes whitest, not to mention endless crap on ye olde internette. So what's the reasoning now? Why is a tiny fraction of what is written deemed to be "revelation", but the rest of it not?
@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues
@HoneyTone-TheSearchContinues 9 ай бұрын
“Ye olde internette” Ha! 😂
@thesmokingburrito9097
@thesmokingburrito9097 9 ай бұрын
Any " Movement " That requires thoughts and acceptance of pretending and demand you play along, regardless of evidence against , needs to be questioned.
@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398
@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 9 ай бұрын
lol I keep zoning out and wanting to paint that background a consistent color. Love listening to you Aaronra
@daviydviljoen9318
@daviydviljoen9318 9 ай бұрын
Someone told me to read "Reasonable Faith" by William Craig... That turned out to be the most unreasonable book I'd ever read.
@keithnorman3519
@keithnorman3519 9 ай бұрын
Belief promises you everything and gives you nothing, disbelief promises nothing and gives you everything.
@AronRa
@AronRa 9 ай бұрын
Nicely put.
@keithnorman3519
@keithnorman3519 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Aron, I consider that a high accolade.
@alanhyland5697
@alanhyland5697 9 ай бұрын
On a totally different subject, I LOVE your backgrounds
@jamiegallier2106
@jamiegallier2106 9 ай бұрын
Well said!❤ Doesn’t surprise me the emails are going unanswered. If it’s the kid that did the live soft debate, he seemed to be getting help online. At times reading instead of listening to Aron’s point, then instead of responding- he’d challenge him on something said earlier, change subject to a new point, etc.
@jonathanrussell1140
@jonathanrussell1140 9 ай бұрын
I would love to have seen a tag team of you and Christopher Hitchens.
@marklally90
@marklally90 9 ай бұрын
I have a neighbor always talking about and hell and being saved, I told him I was agnostic. I don't believe he knows what it means, and honestly Id be wasting my time/energy trying to educate him
@tulpas93
@tulpas93 9 ай бұрын
Maybe. But if you haven't tried (without attacking your neighbor with your agnosticism), your belief in its worthlessness is a ridiculous and foolish as his belief in Christian mythology!
@tjwarburton
@tjwarburton 9 ай бұрын
I saw one of the debates. The kid didn't even understand what a debate was. His world got knocked around a bit.
@Dahak86
@Dahak86 9 ай бұрын
I know people that believe god started evolution so humans would evolve to worship him. 🤦‍♂
@irrelevant_noob
@irrelevant_noob 9 ай бұрын
That's what coping mechanism can look like. :-)
@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084
@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084 9 ай бұрын
Aron I prefer the conversations you have with non apologists but normal members of the public who are christian fundamentalists because we get to see how the majority of christians think when faced with these questions. I could watch them all day and sometimes do. Nice one
@MrBBaron
@MrBBaron 9 ай бұрын
Many people would rather believe a pretty lie than accept the brutal truth.
@theboombody
@theboombody 9 ай бұрын
The brutal truth is that you shouldn't sin, even if sin doesn't exist.
@jamesnewman8011
@jamesnewman8011 8 ай бұрын
Idk if anyone will read this but I recently, within the past couple of weeks, accepted by atheism. When I realized I don't believe I felt a moment of fear because I understood that I am all alone. Then I realized I had been all alone this whole time and have been fine. I will never say God does not exist, but I cannot be honest with myself and say I believe God exists.
@Syrnian
@Syrnian 9 ай бұрын
That is a fantastic thumbnail.
@musicauthority674
@musicauthority674 13 күн бұрын
I don't mind being criticized when I have coming to me. but if a person is going insult me? whether I was right or wrong. then they better expect a violent reaction.
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting to note how the preacher accent makes one pronounce Believe exactly as Aron has it in the thumbnail, with 3 syllables and accent on the Lie.
@pb5640
@pb5640 9 ай бұрын
Aron, your efforts to educate and help people break out of the indoctrination is to be honored and respected! You are one of the greats! please don’t ever underestimate how valuable you are to us.
@jeffie8696
@jeffie8696 9 ай бұрын
Word Brother
@laurajarrell6187
@laurajarrell6187 9 ай бұрын
Aron Ra, excellent! Their fear or financials seem to govern their belies! 👍💙💙💙🥰✌
@3122-t6h
@3122-t6h 9 ай бұрын
It's great to hear another great mind like Hitchens and Dawkins debate this subject.
@DarrinKemp-lr1cz
@DarrinKemp-lr1cz 9 ай бұрын
Bless the day the empire sent you to educate us . K'plah!
@KarateCowboy05
@KarateCowboy05 8 ай бұрын
01:04 I was raised Catholic, spent years in various Protestant churches, and now am Catholic again, and I have a very hard time imagining these things. It's especially difficult because I have never met a religious person who thinks like the people you describe. Even in some of the most zealous Calvinist circles I've never met someone who says everyone must believe and think exactly like they. There is one place I've seen that mentality play out, albeit without explicitly stating it: woke cancel mobs on twitter and at secular universities.
@mrdnarna
@mrdnarna 9 ай бұрын
Your preaching to the choir lol keep up the good work long time skeptic and atheist.
@shawndory5193
@shawndory5193 9 ай бұрын
I just wouldn’t challenge religious believers because they don’t care what I think.
@Dawnarow
@Dawnarow 9 ай бұрын
Hadiths come from Imams = echo chambers of the past. Christianity has those, too... priests in a box that expunges you from your neglect, carelessness or... even evil. It's atrocious.
@Akira625
@Akira625 9 ай бұрын
@ConontheBinarianReuniting with his victims in heaven would be an awkward experience, to say the least.
@NihilisticRealism
@NihilisticRealism 9 ай бұрын
Darkmatter2525's video entitled 'But.. intelligent people believe in god' encompasses this sentiment nicely. Great upload :) 'told to believe what you are told to believe because you are told to believe it' nice spin on my definition of faith. Believing what you want to believe because you want to believe it.
@elvisischrist
@elvisischrist 9 ай бұрын
An engineering degree stopped my faith. The best thing I’ve ever done!
@lxoxrxexnx
@lxoxrxexnx 9 ай бұрын
It was while I was studying engineering that I came to the realization that everything that I had been taught about religion was make believe. It’s wonderful how valuable an engineering education can be.
@buzzwerd8093
@buzzwerd8093 9 ай бұрын
The apologetic art of casting shadows to dance in.
@Frakka475
@Frakka475 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like religions the world over!
@blargblarg7875
@blargblarg7875 9 ай бұрын
There being no god is a conclusion I have come to finding that there is no evidence for a god.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 9 ай бұрын
One of the benefits of having served in the US military is I got to travel overseas and I got to see many different World Views
@cynicallyskeptic4295
@cynicallyskeptic4295 9 ай бұрын
I’ve found pastors think they are experts on any topic they choose to talk about whether it’s biology, physics, chemistry, psychology, finances, etc even though they have zero training or experience in any of these fields. They really think they know more than the experts.
@chainslayer101
@chainslayer101 9 ай бұрын
Love you Aron. Your awsome.
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