WHERE ARE PORSCHE!? 918 Successor to Rival F80/W1 CANCELLED

[@phillipcollins1103]

Dear Porsche if it’s an EV please don’t bother

[@Shmee150]

Answered in the video!

[@phillipcollins1103]

@@Shmee150fair enough..although I mean the Porsche range of cars in general too..look how poorly Taycan was received in the end..no combustion engine no feeling sort of thing

[@benardndiritu5935]

Indeed Tesla's are enough menace on the streets.

[@houssinaissahadjaissa6151]

​@@phillipcollins1103nobody cares about rage honey, we need that V8

[@G82Watts]

​@@benardndiritu5935I see a tesla and don't think menace I think soy boy that finally can afford a quick car but had to get an eV ❤😂

[@GM-kj6sb]

These companies should make sub-brands that produce less than 1000 units a year so they can bypass the laws and create insane NA manuals again.

[@GM-kj6sb]

Ferrari could make a Dino brand

[@RoaringDeca]

@@GM-kj6sbid be so down. sub 500 lotus emira competitors. mid engine, na, centerlocks, carbon tubs, no tech.

[@jondiver6696]

best comment so far !!!

[@MrMlbfan6]

The eu will then slammmed pagani etc

[@uncivilsum]

It wouldn’t work like that i am afraid. As long as Porsche retains ownership over that brand, those regulations will still apply. Even if they didn’t have any ownership over it, they would still have to justify all the expenditures that things like supply agreements, R&D and making a factory for that productions would entail.

[@kwan3560]

Shmee, Nick here. We met a few years ago, I was the one rolling up in the 911R when you were filming at Pagani for a delivery. We, the 918 owners, killed the Mission X for Porsche. 1/3 is a very generous number, they were planning to sell 1000 of that, they don't even have 100 serious interest After a year of courting their potential customers with private showings in Zuffenhausen and at Rennsport Reunion. We had a private talk with Dr Blume for about 45mins at Le Mans earlier this year and we convinced him that if they continue with the Mission X it WILL fail, we aren't interested. We however, are interested in another hybrid. Shortly after Le Mans the project is cancelled.

[@wonderwatch2239]

Well done, Nick and the 918 owners👌🤗👍

[@PF9O]

They should pursue a 919 Evo Strassen. That 4 cylinder sounds epic.

[@stray_helium]

I wonder if they binned the 917 Living Legend concept too. Unlike the Mission X, it had great potential with a flat-8. I don't have a 918 (TTS), but I remember stressing to my dealership that Porsche should continue developing the 917LL. Make it a high-revving flat-8 PHEV, change/development the styling a bit so that it resembles the 988, some exotic bells and whistles like the 918, and there's a money magnet right there. Record breaker, sales or track. It's a shame though. They developed the 917 LL as a homologation special before the LMDh spec was introduced in WEC. Haven't heard about it since.

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

​@@stray_heliumI like the idea of the 917LL, but wouldn't a flat 8 PHEV make for a much heavier car than the 919's powertrain?

[@stray_helium]

@@Poussyeater-w5e throw enough advanced alloys/composites and we'll be fine. Porsche's all about innovation, yeah? They can even 3D print/RLP the engine block in graphene-infused aluminium alloy, have it ceramic coated, cylinder heads titanium-aluminide, pistons in graphene-titanium composite with carbon fiber rods and diamond-like carbon coatings to name a few making it as light as possible. Hell if they're extremely dedicated the monocoque can be RLP-printed graphene-enhanced composites too. There's a lot of (very expensive lol) options - and since it's a limited make hypercar, it makes sense to use em.

[@mapko15]

Nobody wants a 2 million dollar electric car just ask rimac

[@Shmee150]

Yep, discussed in more detail in the video

[@robin29]

Making 150 Sold 50 Not had a 1/3 of cars sold from a company no one’s heard of before

[@mapko15]

@robin29 everybody who knows about cars knows who Rimac is they have been around since 2009

[@coachcoopfitness]

918 is still such a gorgeous car. It is very deserving of a successor (with an NA engine, please for the love of all that is holy) 😅

[@SirishShrestha-w6z]

​@@Shmee150shmee would u buy 2 mill rimac or 2 mill f80? 😢

[@tapashdas4020]

What a timeless mighty. Looks like it was designed yesterday

[@Shmee150]

Incredibly that it was first launched a decade and a half ago

[@TheFunkhouser]

The 919 Street looks WAY more pleasing.

[@TaipanCARS]

@@TheFunkhouser No, just no.

[@borjaa11]

​@@TaipanCARS yes, just yes. Big yes.

[@TaipanCARS]

@@borjaa11 No, just no, absolute no.

[@jaidevreddy4582]

Screw these EU regulations man. Have them for mass market KIAs and Hyundais. Porsche,Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren should get a pass.

[@aceofaces1506]

I’m saying. Super and hypercars barely make any emissions because they’re rarely ever driven in the first place. It makes no sense to restrict them when they have little (if any) real impact on the environment

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

They do, for low volume specials. Just not if you're building more than 2000 models or something like that.

[@aceofaces1506]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks then why can’t Ferrari get away with putting a V12 in the F80 when they’re only making 899 of them?

[@kingsgarage938]

@@aceofaces1506because of all the other cars Ferrari makes which creates a high output each year

[@rsplines12]

@@aceofaces1506 They could have put a v12 in it just like the Revuelto. Problem is their v12 is 25 years old. Their V6 offers much better performance. You want a v12? Get a Purosangue, 12Cylindri, or DaytonaSP3.

[@princesekyere9679]

Stylistically the new f80 doesn’t look as special or wow as the La Ferarri did, the La Ferarri is a decade + old and still looks elegant from every angle compared to the f80

[@IltamZumraRashuptiIlatim]

☝🏻🤓

[@garethjones9450]

Yeah it's V12 hybrid and kers system but it's the ugly as fuck who designed it Stevie wonder it's no 458 f40 testarossa 355 308 etc etc when comes to stops you in your tracks beauty design wise

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

The LaFerrari was sculpted; the F80 looks like a special edition of the SF90. Ferrari should have spent more time on the design

[@DragTimes]

Thanks for coming by Tim!

[@G82Watts]

Good ol dragqeen Brooks. U still removing weight from ur plaid to make it faster and acting like its stock? Wonder how u shaved a second to the half mile from ur plaid vs lucid vid when in ur revulato vs plaid it was alot slower.. im sure when the taycan turbo gt shows up those non stock rims will be used and seat levers will be removed again.. 🤐 "fair races"

[@jasonbowman391]

right around the corner from me...great collection

[@shaunweinberg2463]

Why did you not invite me along hmm?

[@PatrickBateman1337]

In more ways than one, I'm sure. Man's a protein fountain around these sorts of cars

[@edward92128]

That’s what his other half says after he’s been on top for 30 seconds

[@paskowitz]

Personally, I don't know why they abandoned the 919 Street. The 4-cylinder in the race car sounded pretty decent, and like the Ferarri V6 would have had that racing pedigree. Design wise It did not have an imposing stature, but I certainly think with some tweaks it could have that 918 presence.

[@JNAMOTORSPORTS]

Ewwww

[@yoanmeyong4906]

True but for road car the exhaust sound are going to messed up the sound

[@Rezcuz]

That would actually be from the race car though, the V6 is just from the 296

[@Carlife0830]

​@@JNAMOTORSPORTS A low cylinder number doesn't mean it's bad 😂

[@ImReqularr]

​@@Carlife0830cope harder. 4 cylinders in a hypercar is a joke.

[@AmigoAmigo-w5p]

There cant be another holy Trinity anymore. Simply because every car now has thousands of horsepower, every family sedan can now outrun hypercars on quarter mile. Cars have reached "smartphone" level of advancement. That means every single one is the same. Every single one can do everything. Electrification changed cars for ever.

[@v4skunk739]

Nah, cars are heavy. Going light weight is the direction to take now. Some one needs to figure out an economical way to mass produce large carbon fibre parts like chassis and body panels.

[@rvdende]

straightline is not the same as corner handling

[@KyleHubb]

@@rvdende Now tell me why the Taycan TGT is doing 7:07 at the Nürburgring?

[@AmigoAmigo-w5p]

@@rvdende or tell me what 4 Door Saloon Xiaomi SU 7 is doing at the finish line of Nürburgring at 6:46. And could've gone 6:30 if not malfunction or bad weather. (Yes it's a prototype with a roll cage) But even if they put back all the seats it would still be a 6 minute car.

[@Olly-ct9sm]

​@@AmigoAmigo-w5pIt wouldn't be a 6 minute car, it was a completely stripped out car on slicks. With all the added weight of a production car and road tyres, it wouldn't get a sub 7 time

[@nayanmonibora3212]

It'd be really sad if they can't put out a GT2 RS. What a stupid time to be a petrolhead. As always amazing insight Tim. 🥂

[@SleepyySpeedruns]

Quite unfortunate, was hoping to see Porsche create another beautiful hypercar

[@Shmee150]

No doubt there will be something, at some point, but just not right now

[@lukejenkins9341]

​@Shmee150 it's because they now that EVs are not really working ino porsche there putting engines in all there ev cars instead

[@T0NYMANUEL]

Rimac is planning to make their next Hypercar with a primarily ICE powertrain so things are looking good and grim in the car industry rn

[@TheDCJason]

Honestly, I hoped they stick with EVs. Bugatti has the ICE market for them. I really wanted Rimac to make a smaller light weight car with around half the horsepower of the Nivera. I think that would be interesting.

[@T0NYMANUEL]

@@TheDCJason I think this is great because a company that started out as electric shifting to an ICE vehicle would be a first and will make companies that are hell bent on shifting to EVs to have secured thoughts, meaning they would be less likely to go fully electric

[@TheDCJason]

@T0NYMANUEL I get your point, but the reality is that the regulations are going to force manufacturers towards EV/hybrid regardless Rimac is the premium name in electric power trains and batteries. They should continue to lead the way and push the envelope as much as possible to show that EVs can be exciting and a viable alternative to ICE vehicles. Like I said, Bugatti has got the ICE hypercar market locked down. Let Rimac lead the electric market n

[@v4skunk739]

​@@TheDCJasonnot happening when they only sold less than 50 out of 150 Nevera. Their next car will be a hybrid and will probably be light as to differentiate over the Bugatti.

[@TheDCJason]

@@v4skunk739 That'd be fine with me. As long as they continue to advance their industry leading electrical systems and create a light weight car I'm all for it. The main point is that they stay true to the Rimac name while creating a new vehicle that offers something different from what they've already done. We know they can build a car with insane horsepower numbers. Now they need to make something lightweight and fun to drive with the same tech.

[@bits2646]

I do really hope Porsche will create a car deserving a spot in holy Trinity, 918 was really underrated car, with liquid silver looks just to die for... This time it looks W1 will offer more emotional experience vs f80, waiting for the sound sample... Love what Mate is doing, was really afraid Bugatti will go full electric, but never thought he'll surprise us all like that 😊 no need for downsizing, just make ICE better thermal efficient and add 200-350 kw + 5-10kwh battery in a pack with less than 100kg with 2 or 3 motors and you've got winning formula... I kinda understand Ferrari but they did a tribute to the 2.9l engine with hybrid with p modificata already, hope they stick to xx timeline and in 26 release f80xx with e turbo that doesn't mute that much, 120 deg v6 else sounds good

[@81clive]

The 918 might be between 8 and 10 years old, produced from 2013 to 2015, yes its "old technology" But what a car it still is! That video of Richard Hammond thrashing the 918, around Yas Marina Circuit, is something spectacular!

[@drpedroesteves]

Porsche is like a Rockstar Games for the cars. They will figure it out, they MUST figure it out!

[@JohnMadden-n7l]

Little known (or at least little discussed) fact: Porsche struggled mightily to sell 918 versions of this car. They ultimately resorted to promising buyers that they would be at the head of the line for all future special edition Porsches if they bought a 918. Yet another headwind for those of us trying to buy special cars today.

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

Pretty interesting

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

It's a fact, Roman's international confirmed it,porsche was indeed struggling to sell 918

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

@@DevKumar-bi2ld why where they struggling?

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

Now I am wondering about the P1 if it where sales failure. I know that another related VAG product Bugatti with the Veyron was a struggle too. Whilst Enzo Ferrari was literally sold out immediately was less struggle to the point they made more. Even McLaren F1 had slow sales.

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

@@gerogyzurkov2259 idk the exact reason, Roman's international had said something like people at time thought 918 can't hold its value ,also porsche produced about 918 examples of 918 which I think is a lot for a limited edition hypercar

[@superchargedsteve3411]

Where is Porsche? They have been making endless special versions of the 911, which get more and more expensive and unattainable with low production numbers. Porsche has lost its way. A base 911 now costs $120k!

[@ManfredEWhite]

Marketing folks at Porsche are smart to delay Mission X debut. Nice video.

[@HellcatDreaminJosh]

Shmee150 Great Video I'm glad you got to Drive that Absolutely incredible 918 Spider thanks to Brooks and I hope it's Successor isn't an EV or anything less than a V8 and I definitely agree that not even Porsche could happen making a fully electric Hyper Car that won't sell

[@ADAM-z9c]

This video was like when you click on a recipe but theres a gigantic essay before you finally get to the actual ingredients 😂

[@toms_garage]

so true! I skipped through a lot of this

[@JustinMcFly1980]

919 Street is gorgeous. Porsche please make that car😊

[@Shmee150]

But would you be happy with a V4 hybrid?

[@cYaNiDE881]

​@@Shmee150if the V4 sounds good, then I think people might like it. The Jaguar C-X75 concept with it's hybrid four-pot didn't sound half bad either. I also find it strange and hilarious that the tiny 1.6l turbo-hybrid V6 inside the AMG One sounds better than the 3.0l TT-hybrid V6 inside the Ferrari F80!

[@JustinMcFly1980]

No, I think they can do better. Sticking with Flat 6, hopefully these companies remember life is short, they should always build cars from our dreams and smiles would be countless and they would age better. Yolo. Awesome content and topic.

[@gabiwabi123]

@@Shmee150if it revs high enough any engine can sound good.

[@v4skunk739]

​@@Shmee150Yes but only because it would be a racecar for the road.

[@ryanmoreland4822]

I’m afraid to think that these restrictions have already killed the hypercar segment especially from big manufacturers.. Jeremy clarkson said it and was one of the reasons why they’ve stopped doing car shows is because they simply aren’t interested in electric cars, they don’t have a soul anymore and are just washing machines. Performance of electric cars Brilliant, but they are missing what it means to be a car💔

[@elddir3676]

The whole time you were in front on the gt3 I was just staring at the Pontiac firebird haha. Love those.

[@AP13P]

Aston Martin Valkyrie and Valhalla taking Porsche's place. AMG One too.

[@namechecksout6300]

Porsche needs to figure it out! We need a successor to the 918!

[@DiaperSNiFFER]

For real what are they doing they made so much money selling Macans and Cayennes . How do they not have it figured own McLean and Ferrari made there hyper cars successors.

[@norfolkronin6307]

Have you got a 918?

[@DaniMacYo]

Should have been full internal combustion engine or hybrid. You need to have that hyper car sound and feel.

[@user-hr5di5fg8b]

So my suggestion to the EU would be to add a 50k or 10% (whichever higher) tax to the cost of these specal cars but still limit them to 500 a year or 1000 for the full run. Then the EU takes the tax money generated and uses it to offer 10% tax cost on car credit on a new electric car up too 75k car (so 7,500 max credit) per car until the money runs out.

[@yammt3148]

Whatever Porsche decides to do... They simply must, must, MUST... Use a similar exhaust to the 918. Seeing it ignite on Top Gear sent chills through my body.

[@Marcus-kw2ed]

Tbh it doesn't matter if its a v6 hybrid or full electric or a NA v10 with these hypercars anymore. They've become so ridiculously expensive that they will anyway just sit in a garage with 52 miles on the clock. Make it more powerful than everything else, brag about its Nurburgring lap time, charge 5 million for it and call it a day. Then go back to making the cars that normal people actually crave, like 911 S/Ts and so on

[@Rngh00101]

Fr

[@brandonperlow9091]

Id love to see Porsche make a 2.8 or 3 litre flat 6 six again and go lighter. I dont know if they can. But it would be neat to see.

[@SirishShrestha-w6z]

Normal people and 911 st does not go well😂

[@Marcus-kw2ed]

@@SirishShrestha-w6z Well, sell the hypercars at a stupid enough price and make the st available for normal people ;)

[@SirishShrestha-w6z]

@Marcus-kw2ed u know what,if I have lots of money,I would probably buy st instead of f80

[@baggszilla]

919 Street would be INCREDIBLE!

[@tracey-o7e6q]

Porsche is on the VERGE OF BANKRUPTCY. Last 1/4 sales down 42%, labor problems, far too much costly investment in EVs. Their parent Co. VW GROUP is closing factories and having problems for same reasons. All 20 000 plus Taycan's are being recalled and are depreciating at the rate 50% in 2 years causing finance companies to put the brakes on loans for them. They will all be collector's items very soon, LOL. We will miss you Porsche , and poor Audi getting into F1 when daddy, (VW GROUP ) is going to have very little funds for such things. Love the channel, Have a nice day !

[@mattiskeller5703]

Sadly it was a forseeable development. Looking to the Chinese market and their agressively priced cars

[@RemoteViewr]

And they’re facing hugely increased operational and energy costs due to their aggressively unfriendly basket-case “green” government

[@scottipippen6554]

Exactly. Shmee and many other supercar youtubers, are still living in a dream world of unlimited supercar growths. There are still many super rich people in the world, who buy these cars. But many manufactors, owing many of the subbrands, are in a downfall right now, not only VW. That will some day affect many supercar subbrands..

[@Bncxx1275]

Lamborghini out of wec says one of all Audi politics

[@Lamyluu]

NOPE, Porsche SE is NOT Porsche AG, Porsche SE is a family holding company, the main shareholder of the VW Group. The decline in profits is at the VW brand. not the VW Group.

[@baggszilla]

Yo Shmee! I love this style of video! Keep the awesome coming buddy! Your living the DREAM and you deserve it!

[@dragosi8980]

I feel EU is more about virtue signalling and less about eco and protecting the environment. You could for example let manufacturers produce a small number of extreme cars, tax them like crazy (like at least 200k per car) and allow them to only be driven outside of cities and for a limited amount of km. And let the cars be wild, like 2005 level of emmisions. That would be the best for everyone. And use the money to plant lots of trees

[@Fernweh1965]

Never have I desired to own a collection more than the one in this video. Every single car is 🔥🔥🔥

[@marczellk]

I’m a pretty high up porsche client (I’ve spent millions) and they scrapped the EV for a hybrid. Should expect it in 1-1.5 years along with the gt2RS

[@mattiskeller5703]

Since when do you have that information ?

[@rpc8169]

Interesting...Do you know what engine it'll have?

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

Interesting

[@williamrogercummings277]

Dramatic future for supercars, hypercars and EVs. Uncertainty at best. Thank you, Tim.

[@mainzer1115]

Hope they bring a hypercar with IC engine. Boxster, Cayman, Macan all fully electric. Even more Hybrid in the 911 lineup. Should be possible and still be in the regulations plan.

[@Shmee150]

Wishful thinking sadly

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

It'll based of the 963 Porsche.

[@zacariasfangueiro4073]

15:43 I confess that silver is not one of my favorite colors, but this one looks stunning on this car...and the rims! They are beautiful!

[@HJW018]

Not surprised, looking at the company's stock price over the past few years, they have bigger priorities to deal with first before they splurge on a show piece bravado car that will be limited production. This does in theory mean 918s will jump a little in market value. Regardless of when it's produced, it can't be an EV. The buyers already on the list would lose it.

[@yashinnil5047]

one of the best and most insightful segments in a while .Thanks Shmee!

[@jokdeny293]

Engines are masterpieces! That is what you pay for. Everybody can stick 1000HP of batteries on a chassis

[@TaipanCARS]

exactly, Elon Musk shoved a high powered battery inside a chassis and people call it "impressive".

[@DanielPr0duction]

Love hearing your insights Tim! You explain these topics so clearly and make them super interesting- a podcast would be amazing to hear your thoughts in more depth!

[@alancobbin]

VAG is in serious trouble!

[@Shmee150]

A lot of non-Chinese car companies are in big trouble

[@T0NYMANUEL]

Neck deep

[@kebeiloesello9123]

Audi has not released an all new car in the last 10 years - A5 is the most recent

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

They literally are closing down their own German Factories

[@T0NYMANUEL]

@@kebeiloesello9123 and that was just to replace the axed A4

[@supercaarfinder]

I truly hope somehow the old dear rules are retrieved and applied again, so we could see mad cars like the ones of the early 2000s!!

[@BounceTabletennisAcademy]

Porsche don't get automatic qualification into the latest Holy trinity based on the fact that they were in the last. Its F80, W1 and Mercedes Amg 1 as latest best trio of this generation

[@Martin_Romanowski]

As someone who has bought CGT new It would be amazing for Porsche to make something as incredible as their CGT Although 918 is also incredible automobile hopefully their next hyper car be as good as CGT instead of making some EV McLaren P1 successor certainly looks magnificent

[@Arch_FM]

Porsche taking their sweet time

[@QU4NTUM934]

Really hope we can get the holy trinity 2.0 at some point. Great collection displayed and another great video! ❤

[@Shmee150]

I think the bigger question is what is the new Holy Trinity, because it's a different set now

[@JulianZwemer]

I still hope that PORSCHE 😍 will make it! (Although i would definitely not be in the market for it😊)

[@user-qu9ix3pz9o]

Really enjoyed this video! Also if Porsches ICE hypercar era ended with the 918, it ended nothing short of spectacular

[@ueuezaza]

Why are these brands not considering creating a sort of “spin-off” from the “main” brand, only for their limited series to be below this thresholds imposed by the EU? I.e. RUF, is a separate brand, but everyone recognises them as Porsche, AMG does the same with Mercedes. Probably they do not do it for an “image” and marketing point of view, as this would reduce drastically the value of the “normal” Porsches.

[@matmul4850]

Not allowed. If Porsche made a separate brand it would still come under the same regulations as the parent company.

[@Shmee150]

AMG is owned by Mercedes, but Ruf is not owned by Porsche

[@mortenjohannesen5429]

@@Shmee150 This could be a good possibillity for RUF

[@ldoe7608]

Great video, Schmee. Would love to see more 'inside scoop' videos in the future

[@KaminKevCrew]

Do the regulations apply to all companies within a conglomerate? If they only apply to each individual company, couldn’t VAG just create a spinoff company dedicated to ultra low production, ultra high end cars? Porsche could have something like “Porsche Design Automotive” and Ferrari could have something like “Ferrari Exclusivo” that are dedicated to halo cars only. That is, of course, only possible if these regulations count car production per company rather than per conglomerate. Additionally, I think if we could build an electric car of a similar range and weight to the internal combustion engine equivalents, a lot more people would be interested. People talk about how electric cars don’t make noise, but that’s simply untrue. Electric motors make all sorts of crazy futuristic sounds. They are quieter than internal combustion, for sure. But the experience inside the car can be quite fun. A lighter car would make it more fun while driving around corners. Additionally, while it’s hardly necessary - there’s no reason whatsoever that you can’t put a gearbox behind an electric motor. Sure, it makes it less efficient, but there is something to be said for the sound/feel/emotion of slamming gears (or they could do what hyundai did with the Ioniq 5 N).

[@Shmee150]

This is exactly why VW let go of Bugatti; it has to be distinctly separate from my understanding

[@KaminKevCrew]

@ that's unfortunate. It would have been cool if the EU had put something in those rules that basically allowed conglomerates/larger manufacturers to build up to a certain number of cars of a specific model that don't adhere to those rules. For instance there could be be a concession that's something like "any manufacturer that makes over 50,000 cars per year can produce up to 500 cars every 5 years that adhere to more lax emissions standards." While I'm no scientist, I highly doubt that an average of 100 cars per year would actually affect aggregate emissions, especially considering how rarely these cars actually get run or driven. Honestly, they could basically take the US show and display exemption from the 25 year rule, but for emissions. This would let the EU limit the number of miles these cars can be driven in a year, which would effectively restrict overall emissions while still allowing crazy cars to be made and shown off.

[@John_Hoover]

@@Shmee150 Tim, it sounds like ANY mass produced vehicle will be completely unable to have a V-12. That all this "progress" just means getting a (relatively) lightweight V-12 (maybe V8 in the near future), will require buyers to spend literally millions of dollars on a boutique brand where servicing also becomes an issue. Seems messed up. Do you think there's any chance Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, etc. could continue offering these engines, albeit only in the U.S.? Thanks.

[@dragosi8980]

​@@KaminKevCrew I agree 100%. These cars get used so rarely, that their impact is close to 0.

[@themanofshadows]

@@KaminKevCrewAll electric high performance cars essentially drive the same and are practically indistinguishable from each other. The differences between the Rimac Nevera, Pininfarina Battista, and Lotus Evija are slim, other than styling and interiors (which is hardly a reason to purchase such a car) At least with ICE cars you get varying cylinders, forced induction or natural aspiration, different types of transmissions etc… There simply is no way electric wins here, and the low demand for these electric hypercars is the cherry on top.

[@CyberCrusader27]

Looks like the Aston Martin Valhalla will replace Porsche in next Trinity.

[@Shmee150]

I think that sits a category beneath the hypercars

[@CyberCrusader27]

@Shmee150 Fair point.

[@paullees5705]

Shmee, I would have loved for you to bring Brooks in for a quick chat. After all, he is one of the main owners of Magden Motors.

[@DragTimes]

we had a timing conflict on this one or I would have been there.....

[@scottsinclair1364]

Fabulous content Tim. Joint best automotive KZbin journalist alongside Harry Metcalfe. 👍 always interesting and current. Cheers!

[@Shmee150]

Wow, thank you! I love Harry's videos and insight too

[@fishwarrant6355]

​@Shmee150 Yes I agree with that 👏 you and Harry 💯 😊

[@geemiami6251]

Great insights 👍

[@darkodobrosavljevic3148]

Holly Quaternity F80 W1 Valkyrie AMG-One

[@Shmee150]

I like your thinking!

[@CyberCrusader27]

I think the Valhalla as a hybrid and less of track toy is a better fit.

[@irfanj]

Funny how the 918 actually blends in with the W1/F80. And the technology is not that far from these two too!

[@miguelgubern8566]

So sad the 1% have to be responsible of the planet too... Xd

[@norfolkronin6307]

You tell em Miguel! On every childlike level.

[@chipchallenges]

As usual very informative and relevant Tim, great work.

[@T0NYMANUEL]

Was wondering why they were taking this long. Hopefully they won't downsize like Ferrari did

[@Shmee150]

Well... lots of info to share that might be disappointing

[@T0NYMANUEL]

​@@Shmee150oh man😟

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

​@@Shmee150 do tell us please

[@ganeshshenoy1102]

Thank you for touching on this topic tim🙏

[@captain_context9991]

Porsche 918. In my view, the winner of the 3. And one of my fav supercars ever. I was at the launch and Ive experienced a couple of them.

[@brqxton8974]

It’s great how everyone can have an opinion about the winner and each is just as valid as the last. Personally, the P1 wins for me

[@vukasakhecapitalvsc7085]

Great video Tim. Serious revision conversations about the future's technology and the regulations attached to real-world application needs to have already started, but if not, hopefully this video will help. Keep up the great content 👍🏽

[@JohnHyland2]

Tim, I love the X lighting above the ben pak lifts. Maybe inspiration for a future mod in the garage?

[@stephenlane9168]

Great video Tim. Always interesting, entertaining and informative 👌👏🙏

[@Picsou313]

@Porsche helllooo ! anyone there?

[@bbarton538]

That 918 is a handsome car. Very interesting video Tim👌

[@justinAtkinson-f2o]

I love those Porsches!!! O my that blur 1960s 911 is stunning! LFA O my god! 918 o' my Please dont go electric ever! Any brand on earth!

[@alexluke84]

About EV's : Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objective, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say

[@edgargomes8003]

LOVE THE LIQUID SILVER.ITS THE ONLY PERFECT COLOUR FOR THE 918👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😍😍😍

[@jacoballen1380]

I think the elephant in the room is the V12 in the VAG Revuelto.

[@Yamadakun7]

REZVANI & that SL65 AMG Black Series along with SLR what a holy view

[@T_jackson97]

Great video would love to see you on the Behind The Glass Podcast again to discuss this topic with Tony and Sam…. Really interesting and great insider information 10/10 video Tim 🙌

[@bigmanjonas4465]

Hello Shmee. I have the passion you have for cars and you motivate me! Love the content you put out. I am 19 and going in to the car industry now. I can't wait!😊

[@Shmee150]

Best of luck with your career!

[@bigmanjonas4465]

@ I will see you at the top🙌

[@georgemalek5068]

Great topic Shmee . And sad predicament we are in. I think Porsche should do both Mission X in small volume meeting whatever demand there is .. halo electric car to meet the regulation Could that then not offset by using existing V8 or maybe flat 6 and further develop with hybrid tech using the street or maybe even mission X?

[@Craftyboy89]

In an ideal world we would have V10s, V12s still being produced by, for example Ferrari, for another 10-30 years. Doesn't matter if you buy a Koenigsegg or a Pagani with limited production and insane value, or a Ferrari and a Lamborghini with higher production numbers, every person who buys these cars are out for the same thing: A car with a soul and a beating heart. I personally think it's a shame that the F80 doesn't have a V12, it is supposed to be the next big thing for Ferrari, like the F40, F50, Enzo, LaFerrari etc. However now I feel like the Daytona SP3 has taken over that role with its V12. A sports car should be able to make you feel a connection to the car, not like its an everyday car like EVs are mainly for.

[@G82Watts]

This is smart by porsche. They relaized no one wants a full EV and now have seen mclaren and ferrari hand. Im positive they will lead the holy trinity again

[@roderikdemeris7804]

Love the deep dive, thank you for sharing you knowledge and insights

[@richardmortimer8147]

Love the 918. My favourite of the 3: P1, LaFerrari and 918.

[@GrahamSpeed]

That 918 still looks incredible

[@irevisibel9237]

The 918 is still on the top of the game. ❤

[@ebinbarrs9538]

A v4 in a production car that can make 500-600hp just on ICE with a hybrid system similar to the 918? I would love it! Imagine aprilia rsv4 sound track with a turbo? Maybe use that same v4 in the cayman and boxter? I’d love to see the v4 be brought back to cars

[@themarauder6108]

When you're spending that kind of money on a car, you want the theatre that comes with it. The noise from the engine is a big part of it. An all electric car is fun for about a week before the novelty of it wears off.

[@remischoenmakers7815]

I love the F80, but it also kind of looks like a LEGO car🤔

[@playgt326]

Wow!, possibly that's why Porsche is supporting the development of the e fuels ♻️😮. A lot brands are supporting it for be eco-friendly without harm people's taste 💪🏻🙏🏻

[@richtaylor2129]

Would be great to see a Holy Trinity V2.0 at some point. Out of the current 3 i think the P1 looks the best. Speaking of P1. Got to say congratulations to Freddie in getting the engine running on his P1, a very long way to go but a big milestone ticked off

[@montek1singh12345678]

very informative video. Thanks Tim

[@gapyrodawg5181]

Porsche banked on a EV & found out the market didn't want something that takes 1-3hrs to charge 😂😂.

[@JayBelafonte]

The 919 was beautiful, I don’t know why they didn’t continue with that model.

[@UKBUILT]

I hope it's going to be 917 styled like they hinted at years ago 😍 Porsche could have this in the bag 💪

[@TheGreener121]

if i had the money id buy a 918 asap lol... i have a feeling they will become much more sought after once the new car drops.

[@Carlife0830]

I hope the next holy trinity will age as well as the last one did

[@BrianAz]

I realize it is a matter of opinion, very subjective, but the McLaren W1 is the one to beat as the Ferrari F80, in respects to external design really missed the mark for me. I will root for the Porche if they move forward, but not if it's a full EV. And as for me, the terms "Hypercar" and "All electric" should not be used together. Cheeeers Tim!

[@mattiskeller5703]

Most likely there won’t be any Hypercar from Porsche in the forseeabel future due to the struggles of VAG in Germany. They are going to keep their money together. Hypercars are only prestige products and will not bring in a huge profit (if it’s even profitabel)

[@liberty99ca]

To summarize, the only reason we can have hypercars with big engines like Bugatti Toubillion or Pagani Utopia is that their production numbers are very low. Is that correct?

[@Olly-ct9sm]

To my eyes the 918 could be released today. Still looks modern and fresh

[@nicolaspierattini1685]

Oh no Tim you skipped over the Porsche 968 convertible! These cars get little love , but they are a great piece of Porsche history. I believe the very rare 968 Turbo S sold for $500k+ at Sotheby's in 2023.

[@PureAsGold]

Bring back Fuel For Thought!!