Where did it all go wrong for Celtic in the Glasgow Derby? // A Celtic State of Mind // ACSOM

[@anthonymccann5270]

Excellent discussion and analysis. One of the best episodes I have watched.

[@derekktf]

The first 15 minutes Hatate, Bernardo and Kuhn all pulled out out of 50/50s this set the tone for the rest of the game

[@ronaldforsyth4337]

Taylor always showed hunger and desire

[@RoyBoy29]

More excited about European progression - hopefully will sharpen us up 👍

[@taxidmac5907]

As a rangers man i could easily talk fitba with jim orr very articulate on the game

[@Your-girl_Bonnie5]

Jim nails it every time ,very informative

[@SM7993-f2i]

Agreed. A deep thinker.. Doesn't do cliches.

[@stavrosbrainstorm3509]

I’m concerned 🍀

[@PatMo1888]

Jim Orr talks sense ... always.

[@John-ie1ie]

These results happen in this derby, I remember 94-95 season we finished 4th in the league and beat rangers 3-0 . A rangers team with laudrup , Hateley etc while we had Vata, mcglaughlin etc

[@den264]

Probably at Parkhead with full support from our fans.

[@Kenny-67]

It was at Hampden during the season paradise was getting rebuilt. There was approx 10k huns at that game v dead co and it was dead rubber. Yesterday was embarrassing and cannot be repeated.. ever. Unacceptable performance by the players and manager. HH

[@neilbarnes6247]

Exactly - we need to be measured in our response. Anything can happen in a derby.

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

Our league record vs rangers that season was W2 D1 L1 So by some of our fans logic that was actually a very good season because "rangers games are where Celtic players should be judged...."

[@thebloodyshambles]

We have lost one league game away from home in 19, half way mark sitting on 50 points with a goal differential of +45, the closest team to us is on 39pts. Please not lets bash on about this for a month like we did with Dortmund. Trust in the system and the gaffer. A good kick up the backside never hurt anyone. We move on and play better.

[@jimmymcgregor3900]

Absolutely. We take our medicine and move on 👏👏👏

[@dontfollowleaderswatchthep1225]

Kev Graham is spot on in his analysis of the game.

[@TommyMurray-k1w]

Taylor is the defense week link, that has been their for years and should have been addressed sooner

[@bygoneera9521]

Taylor didn’t do much wrong in the game, I agree we need an upgrade but for the weakest link is scales. How he’s starting or staying on is beyond me, total bomb scare. You can see the uneasiness in the team when he’s playing.

[@keynoteFlyer]

KEVIN misquoted the manager several times. BR was talking about the atmosphere in the dressing room as the Safe Space, not the points advantage in the league. Check 1:20 in the post match interview on Celtic official channel.

[@KevingrahamCCC]

I wasn't talking about yesterday, he said it after St J. It was on the BBC.

[@keynoteFlyer]

@ must’ve been on the Radio. He didn’t say it on the Sportscene post match interview.

[@WeeJimmy82]

Yes I thought that too.

[@lindaross8246]

Celtic just thought they were to turn up yesterday against a Rangers team with lots of players out injured, Rangers deserved their win.

[@GerrardNelson]

Couldn’t agree more, my team and I were delivering medication all around the country yesterday in horrendous weather conditions yet we somehow managed to put in a shift right to the end. Name me one just one Celtic player (not including KS) who did likewise. Shameful spoilt and Raphael as well!!!!

[@WeeJimmy82]

Absolutely, rangers fought hard and we were poor. No excuses from our end

[@Enough1970-e8r]

Thank u to every Celtic fan who observed the minutes silence yesterday from a rangers fan

[@rippedtorn2310]

We had no fans in stadium bud . But flowers were laid by Celtic board .

[@brownwarrior6867]

As a Celtic fan I would have no issue observing a minutes silence for those who paid the ultimate price going to watch their team. Also as a Celtic fan I observe the fact that your Club at that time knew of the issues on that stairwell and for Fiancial reasons decided it was okay to risk the lives of anyone using that staircase. Lest we forget this whilst your support constantly reminds our Club of its mistakes of the past whilst singing a song book about our religious and ethnic background throughout the game. A wee bit of inward reflection might not go amiss at Ibrox in the memory of those fans.

[@Enough1970-e8r]

@@brownwarrior6867 what about observing a minutes silence without mud slinging because if we start that shite then both clubs have been guilty of some real stomach churning stuff in there past so let’s just have a minutes silence for those who lost their lives plain and simple eh

[@johnbarclay5964]

I was at Ibrox that day many years ago I didn't even know what happened until I got back to castlemilk , I am a Celtic fan thru and thru , if I was at yesterday's game I would have stood in the rain sleet or snow to honour fellow Glaswegian s , some of whom were pals of mine who I still miss today , respect comes in all guises

[@ronaldforsyth4337]

Brought Baggiou on brilliant

[@eddietraynor5781]

Our left hand side defence, is a disaster.

[@whiteheatherclub]

A Rangers fan said to me that the key was taking McGregor out of the game. Don't know if he's right but an interesting thought.

[@ronaldforsyth4337]

Rangers manager no that daft 😂😂😂

[@cliffrenfrew9222]

Happy New Year !!

[@johnbarclay5964]

Where did it go wrong ? We came out the tunnel

[@markfitzpatrick5533]

I think Brugge found the formula, and weaker teams like Zagreb and Rangers replicated it. Those teams now go man for man on us, close-out the options to play out from the back. Rangers are good out of possession, but they struggle when they dominate possession. They don't have the quality to break other SPL teams down, hence their inconsistency. We will still comfortably win the league. Its clear though we need an alternative style when encountering teams who go man for man on us.

[@matthewmiles9626]

It's done, forget it. Our party comes when we lift the league title.

[@MartinNicol-bk7ny]

❤Jim awesome 😮😊

[@martinstilwell5653]

The attitude and approach to this game from Celtic is totally unacceptable and shouldn’t be dismissed as a bad day at the office , if the commitment from players isn’t there for EVERY game then get them moved on , that performance was shocking !

[@George-n2r]

You must be a dream at work you're boss is lucky to have you

[@neildmedia]

Yes was our domestic Dortmund moment. Felt confident before match off back of good wins, no one saw collapse coming. We can bounce back in the same way. Wake up call that we're not as good as we think we are. New signings, new tactics, new attitude, treble and CL knockout incoming HH 🇮🇪

[@theSlabberingCabbage]

Great pod as always bhoys. Even though im really annoyed at the performance and the dropping of the 3 points, im more annoyed about the fact that we've given them a massive boost in confidence. That is the ultimate monkey off their back and will be of massive importance to them. I still think that boost will be short lived as they will definitely drop more points this season than what they gained yesterday, so my disappointment will be short lived. HH 🍀

[@martinokane4512]

Jim you said it in few words “ we have struggled against our struggling rivals to many times of late” ….Kevin it shouldn’t happen ,14 pts ahead…therefore no pressure…..when your not allowed to “tippy tappy” the very least we expect is “To Compete” ,Kevin we need to stop making excuses. There are games that demand you roll up your sleeves. Tell me and thousands like me “why are we not doing that in these games??????🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪

[@KevingrahamCCC]

Never made excuses. We bottled it.

[@Michael19841]

Scales, Hatate and Taylor were so bad you wonder if they’ll ever fully recover as Celtic players? Those three positions need to be strengthened in this window. Trusty when he was in the side was a huge improvement on Scales in my opinion.

[@FamilyKelly1]

Hey mate i totally agree,been bleating on aboot these 3 stooges for months its been clear.Scales big heart just not good enough,hatate not interested and too many turnovers,Taylor whimsical impish crybaby,believes in his own hype.Trusty is a much better option accross the board for scales.If KT does come back we still need another LB any thoughts??

[@martinokane4512]

Martinstilwell I agree 100%

[@dontfollowleaderswatchthep1225]

Scales should have been hooked after 20 minutes

[@bygoneera9521]

He should have never started.

[@JamesStevenson-t6c]

I think the most shocking thing yesterday was the fact that i would never have believed it was possible for us to be quite as bad as that! But now we know

[@Craigiebhoy7]

Think Hibs might take points from them this weekend

[@den264]

Hibs are a club of many moods. One day they can give us a right good game, the next, they fall to lower teams. Hibs have been toothless over the years against Rangers.

[@patrickreachcoll3617]

So glad PJ called Jim out. The all round bottle crash was so evident. Not sure where Jim was coming from, but doesn’t seem to understand the field of play as much as he understands the stage…

[@markkeenan1244]

I agree, the players bottled it and if that offends them, good. Do something about it.

[@benditlikeproductions5394]

Hi Patrick, when I'm on a podcast or posting something, I try to avoid using language that I wouldn't say to someone's face. If I met Kuhn or Maeda, I would never tell them that they bottled it or lacked desire or hunger. It wasn't one of their better performances, the opposition defenders won the individual battles, they looked a bit disheartened, are all comments that I would be comfortable saying face to face. Cheers. Jim

[@jimmymcgregor3900]

Seeing some comments about Celtic bottling it. I think they were really poor but I don't think they bottled it. They seemed to lack the stomach for the fight when they lost the first goal and it just got worse from there. Hopefully the manager can sort things out and get the Bhoys back on track going forward 🙏

[@jimmymcgregor3900]

A great show guys. A fair assessment of things from the 4 of you. Lots of things contributed to the result and fair play to the rangers for capitalising on the lack of fight from Celtic. The one thing I think that all Celtic fans can agree on is the fact that we know that the team can play a helluva lot better than the derby match. 11 points clear going into the new year is a well deserved and well earned position to be in which the players deserve a lot of credit for. Keep the faith and get behind them going forward HH

[@patrickreachcoll3617]

@@benditlikeproductions5394 Cheers Jim, I appreciate your perspective and reply. Passions were obviously running high the other morning and none of us like seeing our heroes lacking courage. But despite any mitigating circumstances and individual issues, that was the character of our capitulation. And like PJ, I just like to see it being called as it is. Doesn't define anything other than our performance on the day, and hopefully it's only consequence will be to spur us to greater heights...

[@bobj2447]

If Kyogo scores in the first minute it would have been a different game but there is an Achilles heel in our system.

[@den264]

Koyogo has to work on his position when we are on the front foot, or on the quick counter. How many times have we had to wait after he scores for VAR to scrutinise if he is on side or not. He is in the habit now of looking to the ref. After each goal.

[@bygoneera9521]

@@den264Kyogo had no chance against them, we didn’t create fuck all, the wee man was making the moves but we got bullied all over the park. Not one player managed to put his foot over the ball n try get a grip of the game. Iv made excuses about Rodger’s chopping n changing too much but in all honesty we just didn’t fancy it.

[@John_G69]

Kevin said Scales won us the league cup final - he nearly lost it for us with that jersey pull remember.

[@glasgowharleyrider]

Where did it go right 😅

[@scotiavelo1405]

It’s ironic PJD that after I got “The Celtic Jersey” for Christmas. I then watched a good few yesterday that are not fit to wear one or should be there last game in one.

[@ACelticStateOfMind]

I hope you can still enjoy the book. It's amazing to hear when Celtic fans are gifted or pick it up. Very humbling indeed.

[@scotiavelo1405]

@ if your doing a book signing in Coatbridge anytime let me know. Looking forward to reading it. 👍🍀☘️

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

Saying we were only 14pts clear because rangers had been so poor, is a daft thing to say. Prior to Sunday we'd taken 50/54 points available to us in the league. So did those points just magically fall out of the sky? Any team that takes 50 pts from their opening 18 league games is going to have a pretty decent lead. Ok maybe not 14pts but even a "good" rangers team would likely have been 8-10pts behind heading in to yesterday's game. Also, the point about "We don't sign these players to beat Ross County...." eh well yes we do! There's no point beating rangers if you cannot put all the other teams away on a regular basis. So it's about doing both and that's what we've managed to do, hence the 11pt gap.

[@benditlikeproductions5394]

Hi, in a 2 horse race, you'd expect both of them to win every game, but you can't win every game. I expected us to have 50 points and them to have 44, so to be 11 ahead is far more than I expected, not that I'm complaining! If we're spending £6m+ on a player, it's to make a difference in the big games, like Ibrox. We don't need to spend that sort of money to beat the other teams, as the standard is very poor.

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

@@benditlikeproductions5394 At no point in history have either team won every game. The SPFL isn't a 'Top 5" league but you are talking like it's basically Sunday league amateurs we're up against. Also, this shouldn't need pointing out again (but apparently it does!) we absolutely do need to sign quality players in order to beat the likes of Ross County & Co on a regular basis. Signing players of equal or only slightly better standard, will not get us the results required week in week out.

[@KevingrahamCCC]

Agree.

[@benditlikeproductions5394]

​@Mantis_Toboggan_MD. I just said you can't win every game! In my opinion, you don't need to spend £26m to beat Ross County, you have a different opinion, it doesn't mean either one of us is right or wrong. We do need to spend a lot if we want to compete better in Europe.

[@jimreilly6933]

Correct ! We sign players to get us through the entire season, not just against them.

[@rossevans2261]

Rangers have reverted to a middle block to pressurise our midfield and we have not come up with an answer. The players should be able to sort that out on the park but haven't, so Brendan needs to sort it. The team needs to be much further back to create space behind to run into and to fight for the ball. This waiting behind their defenders is lazy and cowardice. We need to get rid of Hatate if we want to play Rodger's favoured possession based football. He's nowhere near consistent enough and gives the ball away constantly. Taylor needs to sign a new contract or move on. He's been great for us and I hope he stays, but his head is elsewhere.

[@taz347]

Only two players were half decent CV and Kasper. Rest were suffering from a hangover.

[@stringologymchugh4245]

Have I missed something? Did rangers win the league yesterday? Keep the heads man!

[@advaitavedanta4679]

I guess it hurts too much for you. Rangers hammered Celtic. We did not allow Celtic an out ball. Happy New Year for us, but Clement still has to go. You will still win the league.

[@den264]

Well their fans think the did !

[@den264]

​@@advaitavedanta4679Will anyone stop us !

[@Kenny-67]

They had a wee victory yesterday but when they look at the league table they'll return to their meltdown... they're irrelevant. We have to crack on and keep improving & ensure there's no repeat of that crap yesterday and power on to the treble. Hail Hail bhoys and ghirls 🍀

[@colmanrooney8459]

Goals 6 in the last two games against Rangers mid field and defence big problems for the manager.

[@den264]

This season Celtic have six against Rangers, and Rangers have six against us. Parity !

[@emc1888]

Agree with pjd on Taylor bottling it. Also watch the game at the start Kuhn gets a sneaky kick on the ankle by jefte then hides pretty much until jefte went off.

[@GAMING-CELT]

Scot’s squad polis is literally a fly on the wall documentary lol

[@seandaly9362]

Bad day move on and quick we have lots of games to come . 3 points on Sunday 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@Kenny-67]

We've been very consistent this season and the team and manager deserve immense credit and it has been given to them several times. However, yesterday's non-performance and lack of fight, desire and adaptability by the players and manager was wholly unacceptable and should be called out. We played into the hands of a mediocre team who were depleted and Rodgers didn't respond with necessary personnel changes, tactics, or a different shape to try and influence the flow of the game. It was an embarrassing display and the manager and players cannot allow that to happen again. The consolation is we are still miles ahead in the league but lessons have to be learned. It also highlighted weaknesses in positions e.g. the need for a left sided CH of a similar quality to CCV, a stronger more physical CDM, a very good robust LB and at least 1 one high quality winger. Let's dust ourselves down and push on to Improve the team/squad and ensure there's no repeats of that shambles yesterday. Hail Hail 🍀

[@johnconnor1580]

Great point. We could all see what was happening but nothing changed. No half time subs, no change of shape, no switching of roles. Brendan gets plaudits when things go well, he has to take responsibility when it doesn’t. Brendan gripes: 1) predictability. 4-3-3 come hell or high water 2) insistence on always playing out, even with a high press 3) subs at 60 minutes - (almost) always 4) stubborness - sticks with Taylor and Hatate past all reason. Idah: he wanted him so badly he paid 9M There, glad that’s out of my system

[@jessebongo46]

Out thought out fought, no mystery.

[@George-n2r]

Well despite the disappointment result. At least the football on show was high standard stuff. It's a pity we weren't served up this level in the cup final. We will get a classic cup final some day,we can only live in hope! Until then we can take solace in what we generally observe in league fixtures.

[@jackjones1249]

There was zero high standard of football on show bar kyogos offside chest and finish. So many misplaced passes and players pulling out of tackles it was so bad you would almost think they threw the match.

[@George-n2r]

@jackjones1249 i was been sarcastic. Some people weren't satisfied with the incredible way we surpassed rangers tainted at best 118

[@martinrooney6883]

Before yesterday we were talking about another invincible season. One defeat and now we are talking about changing system's etc...its madness. Its a credit to how high the standards are under BR that we take a defeat at Ibrox then start unpacking it as if we need to change system's.

[@ACelticStateOfMind]

Are we not focussing on changing systems in-match when things aren’t working (like yesterday)?

[@jackjones1249]

We can play any system against SPL dross and still win. When the system clearly struggles in two games against rangers and against dortmund, brugge ,Atalanta and against kille should we not be able to change systems for certain games?. Should a top class manager not be able to change formation during a game when its cleary not working or are you just happy about scudding teams with a fraction of our budget and winning a shite league.

[@martinrooney6883]

@ACelticStateOfMind Yeah we should have changed systems at half time. I was more speaking about people in the comments rather than the content itself. We should have went to a 4-3-1-2 Put Maeda up front along with Kyogo to run in behind and Kuhn playing just behind. We were having zero luck on the wings where 75% of our attacking usually go through. You could see that through Rangers game plan. Kuhn wasn't allowed to come inside like he usually does. Defence should have been pushed up and Mcgregor should have been taking the balls from the centre halfs and distributing from there because he wasn't composed and didn't have his usual time in the middle of the park. The game was that open and scrappy it didn't matter how we pressed in the end. That Rangers Defence needed to be stretched and the one time we done that we scored from it albeit it was chopped off. Maeda would have caused more problems playing upfront and the overall press would have been more effective coming from there. We are talking about getting a number 10 in January then we would need to potentially change system's to accommodate this and I don't believe the system needs to be changed, before yesterday we only dropped 4 points. The Kieran Tierney transfer I would love to see happen but only at left back. If Greg Taylor leaves we still need cover because of Tierney's Injury record If we play him centre back his distribution is not nearly as good as Liam Scales, Scales passing accuracy is 92.4 % and Trusty is not far behind in that regard. KT would be flawed in this system. Is it really worth changing a system that works most of the time just to potentially accommodate KT?

[@martinrooney6883]

@jackjones1249 that SPL dross is out bread and butter to get into Europe next season whether we like it or not. We changed system for Atalanta away then referred back to the original system and beat Leipzig. We won the cup with the same system and beat Rangers 3-0 at Celtic Park. Rodgers should have changed system during the match yesterday I totally agree but I don't agree with potentially changing system in the future to accommodate a number 10 or a KT. Feel like im going to be saying the word "system" in my sleep tonight 🤣

[@PopGoz-j8m]

Totally ineffective midfield that continually fails to connect with Kyogo's forward runs. Calmac also slows the play down too much. Hatate gives the ball away and Bernardo is better suited to a defensive midfield role...

[@JohnMcdowell-t6l]

Must admit that performance was shocking, no pass marks for anyone including BR,changes were far 2 late,Scales,Hatate,Taylor, mc gregor could have been hooked after 20mins at latest half time,was very cross after that performance

[@brianbeacham3841]

2 games in a row now that we have been over run in midfield. CalMac looked like a wee bhoy. Nae width and our passing was shocking. PC has us sussed and its over to Brendan.

[@johnbarclay5964]

Not ard to suss us , a high rpress and we fall to pieces, what wrong with a long ll to wing or big idah this nullifying 4/5 players ina stroke as Motherwell and at mirren did , surely not rocket science for our elite coaches ffs

[@jackjones1249]

@@johnbarclay5964 It wasnt even a high press. They sat off us and let scales and CCV have the ball then the press was triggered as they passed into the midfield. Amatuer stuff from Rodgers and the players.

[@frankgribbon7672]

BRs substitutions are always like for like. I'm glad we've got him but wish he would show a bit of diversification when subbing. Fair dos to Rangers they didn't let us play, they bullied us.They did to us what we usually do to them. Glad to see no ref controversies as well. Hopefully a major blip only.H H

[@den264]

What about the coine throwing controversy !

[@bygoneera9521]

@@den264nothing to do with the ref….just animals misbehaving.

[@danmcgrain0458]

Brendan admitted himself pre-match that they didn't look to change anything from the cup final. He bottled it, not the players. System isn't as good as people think it is - heavily imbalanced in the midfield and the wrong personnel for the system.

[@aero2507]

Jim's comments on the games being close? Yeah Maybe scoreline, but in general celtic dominated the games. The cup final they had 32% possession because they can't go toe to toe with us. They play a counter attacking game against us. Celtic clearly have better players..

[@MarkMcCann1888]

They fucking bottled it Jim!!!

[@josephmcgonigle880]

We were way too passive in all areas of the park ,no press , getting beat by the switch BR will redeem himself on the 15 th of March

[@seamusmckenna-y2h]

When we play our system and they man mark midfield, then you have to play the ball in behind the midfield to force them back, then they have to adjust , move deeper and then you play through midfield. That is what was wrong in cup and this game. Not the system but how to adapt

[@seamusmckenna-y2h]

Where does the 26 mil come from?

[@seamusmckenna-y2h]

Should have been hammering balls left to right, right to left wings and let Kuhn and Maeda challenge for everything and push up the midfield. Force them to play out. Possession means nowt when in own half

[@johnharrison8857]

Absolutely correct summing up of the league situation….it is not because we are so good, it is because Rangers continually shoot themselves in the foot and drop points…..we became complacent because of the 14 point gap….that better change against St Mirren on Sunday or we are in trouble…….

[@Lochayetheview]

I spoke to JP the day Gerrard left Rangers, at the Sheriffhall roundabout., he might remember Am Rangers daft but the one thing I would say is your team didn't look like they had the legs yesterday. I think the league is over and I regard the win a meaningless last derby of the season, with that said, the manner of the defeat would be a concern me because it is not the end of the season. It is not how you start, it is how you finish. Your manager was right to say there was numerous reasons for the performance and I agree with him but if the players think the league is over then it could spell trouble. Milan v Liverpool springs to mind. Forgive me for not wishing you the best, I will take yesterdays result all day long but your team did look like it had tuned out yesterday.

[@ACelticStateOfMind]

I remember that well! I really do hope that yesterday is merely a blip and we can react well to it. The form we have shown over the last 12 months would suggest we'll put it right. Rangers more than deserved the win. We were toothless all over the park.

[@JohnMcdowell-t6l]

Have to agree with Orr,this is a wake up call to anyone who thinks we are a brilliant team ,years ahead of sevco,the warnings were their in the final

[@johncollins-rh2cj]

Celts sold the game to keep clement so they can keep winning titles

[@francisgreen8925]

Is our midfield too lightweight? We like to pass our way through the middle. Scales and CCV looked like they had no options to pass. Too many stray passes. The rangers exposed us. They Sat off and when the ball went into the mixer they pressed us. Midfield was non existent. Straight onto the backline.

[@MartinNicol-bk7ny]

Ah said if we take the cup Al gee em a corner at ibrox no 3 goal 😢 but it wiz on the cards gutted. Only hink keeping me goin izz being 11 ahead 😅😢but stil pure gutted gt beat aff tht team😮😢😢

[@bygoneera9521]

For me one of the most obvious problems that not many are addressing is that Rodger’s is chopping and changing way too much and that’s unsettled our play big time in last 4 to 6 weeks. Whether it’s playing the bombscare scales infront of trusty or just chopping n changing what should be a cemented position in CB, but also the MF….pick one of Engels n Bernardo n give em a run. That aside the whole team got bullied and were playing scared. Nobody stepped up, that’s the worry.

[@markallan5557]

On the bench we had 26 million worth of signings in Engels, Idah and Trusty just saying

[@bygoneera9521]

Idah is never a player. Just don’t rate him. He’s a downgrade even on OH tbh.

[@den264]

Poor Chris had to suffer all the fallout from our disappointed fans. Peter Grant and Stephen Naismith both agree that Celtic are still by far the best team in Scotland and " will win the title "

[@doubledenim5224]

Gotta take the rough with the smooth Den….I try not to take it personally! 😂 To be fair it’s understandable….never nice to lose to our rivals & especially with that performance but we’ll pick up again 🍀🍀

[@jimreilly6933]

@@doubledenim5224 Cheers Chris ! if Jim the oracle is cool about our position at the moment, them we should all be.

[@weebunbhoy7836]

💯% agree Kev re Maeda after a few touches also Hatate you know they are not goni be arsed. Body language. We accept that every dozen games, they will be awesome. I dont think it is a good return. Calmac I would put into Left back, unless KT returns, and play Engles as a 6 holding. Dont need to punt long, but we are so one dimensional, and that's on Brendan & coaches. This cd be kick up arse badly need tbh. HH ☘️

[@jackjones1249]

calmac at left back🤣

[@bygoneera9521]

Cal at left back…………logic and common sense has left the chat🫣🤯

[@kevinmcnicoll8649]

Not sure where this Scales won us the league stuff started. We lost 1 goal in the first half caused by Taylor. We then lost 2 in the second and Schmeichel made an unbelievable save while Scales was on the pitch

[@bygoneera9521]

Scales is dire, total liability that makes the whole team nervous

[@minnietoby]

Haven’t seen us play that bad in two years, looked like they were all on the piss over Xmas

[@jambodownie6622]

Only positive is that lost becsuse we were so poor n not that gers suddenly world beaters. Bad tactics doesnt account for lacklustre performance, the shocking no of times we gave the ball away n slack passing....am pretty sure Brendan didnt ask them to do that !

[@JohnMcdowell-t6l]

Taylor needs binned now,its clear he is looking after himself 4 a move,doesn't want injuries, clear as day,correct JP he bottled it

[@JohnMcdowell-t6l]

Scales not the only 1 at fault, midfield and forwards non exisant,we badly need a midfield enforcer,Hatate,and Scales need binned 4 a while

[@lukebowcott718]

The Celtic shirt is not going to shrink to fit these players

[@neilbarnes6247]

Complacency is the enemy of success. Rangers deserved it by far. I'm glad we've got some competition again from the other side of Glasgow. Everyone has a bad day at the office. Good to hear at long last some movement from the authorities on the nasty incidents. But how many of these have to happen before more serious sanctions are implemented? It's disgraceful. This is a game of football and these acts are absolutely unacceptable from any sports fans. I was recently abused by a Rangers fan after the Scottish Cup Final. My cousin's mate hit by a bottle and head cut open the last time Celtic fans were at Ibrox. Chris Sutton's security could not be guaranteed recently by the club. The glass in Joe Hart's box. The continual sectarian anti-Catholic songs. SS emblem. Bottle thrown at our physio. And now this coin throwing at both Engels - who could have lost his eye FFS! - and Rodgers. Much more has to be done. Rodgers criticises the referee after the diabolical decisions at the Hearts away game last season and is banned and fined. Should I mention Neil Lennon's attack a number of years ago? Nothing done. We all have to work harder and be more caring and conscientious to call these things out and complain to the authorities and the clubs. And do the same if our fans ever step out of line. Let's hope for a peaceful and successful 2025. No more complacency or terrible incidents please. YNWA HH!

[@anthonybeattie4222]

Scales hatate and Taylor were awful changes should have been at H/T left hand side give them a landslide

[@krustoffur]

still a bit stunned tbh, feck me Celtic were awful. Rangers might no be the rival they used to be, but they occasionally get fired up enough to humble us But lets no get carried away. We ve had a 2024

[@eddietraynor5781]

Must go,SCALES,HATATE,IDA,TAYLOR,WALSH,TRUSTY.GET SOME QUALITY FFS😮

[@bygoneera9521]

I agree except trusty, I think there’s a player there….hes done nowt wrong either, has all the attributes….just needs time.

[@dmgsoultogetherness6667]

the manner in which we lost was very poor.

[@stevengordon3183]

Hatate for me is finished @ Celtic Overated and has played just about every game Brendon is to loyal To him macgowan Should get more game time And please please. Stop waiting till 65 mins to change things The signs were there That rangers would come out and give it there all. Never seen so many players to get a3/10 At least 10 of them We need to learn from this manager and players and switch back on no more complacency

[@johnmcglinchey8628]

Let's just move on. Bigger concern for me was the 26 million sitting on the bench!

[@JohnMcdowell-t6l]

Problem with Kyogo a the minute is 9 times out of 10 he is missing these chances

[@jackjones1249]

Scored a top class offside goal from hardly any service. Kyogo was the least of the problems yesterday

[@den264]

Add to that his inability to stay onside !

[@JohnMcdowell-t6l]

It was offside, are you blind and deaf?

[@stevengordon3183]

Where in the rule book When you are playing that bad you need to wait till half time And you got 5 subs Change it

[@donaldo5879]

Rangers supporter here guys & i always liked your channel 👍 , you give a fair & honest assertion on the game no matter the results 👌...If yous want a laugh though & go check out wee specky Baz on a celtic supporter's point of view, he was an absolute embarrassment to your fellow supporter's 😂

[@johnbarclay5964]

Some of the MI5 logic on this page from fellow Tim's beggars belief, if anyone is even remotely content with that , even with the points advantage you are simply watching the wrong sport from an auld Tim to one and all, over to our elite coaches earn your corn

[@davidgaull4897]

Tierney's coming home 👍

[@John_G69]

It's not the result that bothers me, its the gutless performance. Caught in possession all the time, stray passes, too slow at getting to the ball. Getting beaten when you've given your all is one thing but yesrerday was a timid, embarrassing performance.

[@den264]

Clemente asked them to stand off when either Scales or CV had the ball, then as soon as they passed the the midfield, they ganged up aggressively on the person recieving the ball. That was why our midfield kept losing the ball. Watch the other teams in the league follow suit.

[@davidmurray1732]

So f………, one loss in so many games, players have given so much for so long,

[@MrMabawsaritchie]

Wisnae just a loss but. 4 shots only 1 on target. 24 shot 9 on target. Big Phil got yeez sussed noo 😂😂

[@davidmurray1732]

@@MrMabawsaritchie you win fuck all, same old rangers, brilliant that skelator is staying

[@davidmurray1732]

@ same old sevcco will win nothing , great Skeletor is staying

[@MrMabawsaritchie]

@@davidmurray1732 Aye, it's great, n he'll be comin tae Castle Grayskull soon tae defeat She-Man Brenda 🤣🤣

[@MrMabawsaritchie]

@@davidmurray1732 We don't expect tae win anythin this season, be a bonus if we dae, aye, but this is a rebuild. Should be good by next season if we can get the transfers right.

[@georgeoneill6942]

Ego? I am more than happy with BR as manager. I was very unhappy when he left first time around, but he is a step up from Ange.

[@conanthelibrarian8870]

Taylor is by far the weakest link in the starting line up

[@derekktf]

Liam Scales won us the cup . Did he aye

[@Michael19841]

I like Double Denim but he’s in no position to question Brendan Rodgers formation or tactics.

[@doubledenim5224]

Hang on….are you discounting my many European Cup winning exploits on Champ Manager circa 1996? 😂 I wouldn’t disagree buddy….and I said it myself….its the danger of sounding like an Armchair manager, especially when applying the hindsight factor! Brendan has my unequivocal support as always & I trust his judgement implicitly! Ultimately my suggestion on the tactical or system changes is purely based on how I as a supporter viewed the game & as we’ve seen, opinions vary to a great extent but at the end of the day, Brendan as the manager has earned the right to set up & configure the team as he deems fit, and he has my trust in doing so 👍🏻

[@Michael19841]

Ha ha I did forget! No harm intended, I think we all went a bit mad at that performance so disregard my comment. My tuppence worth is playing Hatate when he gives the ball away numerous times and playing two wingers leaves the midfield wide open. I’ve no doubt Brendan will sort it though. In terms of ego I’m surprised you didn’t slip in the old classic Everyone’s Got One line.

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

@@doubledenim5224 I think when you have so many players making basic errors, it becomes very hard to analyse formations, tactics etc... If you have 1-2 players on the pitch who are just making unforced error after unforced error.... Any "system" will just fall apart. But Celtic had about 4-5 players who were making basic errors, so where do you even begin? 4-4-2 or 4-1-2-3 or 4-3-3..... It barely matters if your players are just continually giving the ball away, failing to control it etc... I think the players did "bottle it" to a certain extent. What I mean by that, is that when things started going wrong at 1-0, instead of just getting in to a good shape and staying solid for 5-10 mins we started trying even more difficult passes despite the fact that basic 10-20 yard passes had become a chore. We suddenly had Hatate & Kyogo trying wee flicks and delicate lay offs.... I mean I suppose you could argue they were trying to be brave but there's a fine line between bravery & stupidity and we came down on the wrong side of it. I don't think there's much a manager can really do about decisions players make in the heat of the moment during a game.

[@buzzlopavich]

Greg Taylor getting hammered again. He did nothing wrong - Scales was a complete bombscare ffs.

[@ACelticStateOfMind]

Taylor did plenty wrong. He constantly gave away possession cheaply yesterday and left the rest of the defence exposed. This happened numerous times until he was hooked.

[@graemeorr5884]

You are old enough to know that world class players wont come to Scotland

[@undercoverbrother67]

PJ was visibly irritated by Jim's attempted rebuttal of his "bottled it" critique.

[@bygoneera9521]

Jim’s a morbid fellow, that’s a few times he’s tried to claim they have players as good if not better than us.

[@johnhynd4522]

@@bygoneera9521Jim is on point with his assessment. Rangers are not as bad as Celtic fans think they are. Who do Celtic have that is better than Raskin, Diamonde, Jefte, Sterling or Hagi?

[@bygoneera9521]

@@johnhynd4522 this is a joke right?!😆

[@benditlikeproductions5394]

​@@bygoneera9521Point out where I have ever said they have better players than we have. I have said their players are not as bad as a lot of Celtic fans think they are, so don't make things up and then comment on it. Also, comment by all means, but have a bit of respect for the person you are commenting on, morbid fellow!!!

[@bygoneera9521]

@@benditlikeproductions5394 in claiming they aren’t as bad as some think, and saying the games between us have been close, which some have, some haven’t….as with a few teams….you were implying they are at least on our level. You have made similar remarks in other videos, I’m not goin to hunt them out though. If you don’t want to be seen as morbid then maybe brighten up your disposition. Morbid was mild.

[@GerardoVeritas]

Kevin Graham 😢

[@BengalsJon71]

Where did it all go wrong?? The players along with every pundit and most of the fans on here (apart from Jim) were far to cocky and were convinced that we just had to turn up to win. People on here were going on about winning 3-0,3-1, 4-1, 5-2. this will give EVERYONE a kick in the arse that was badly needed. We should NEVER have started Taylor and he should never pull a Celtic shirt on again, the way he reacted when being subbed was totally out of order. Hatate is an empty shirt in these games and has been for the last 18 months. We also need to stop playing 3 in midfield when they are playing 5. P J, to say that you never seen this coming shows you how many games you must watch of ours, this kind of result and performance has been coming for a long time. It would have happened in the cup final if they had scored to go 2 up when they went through 4 on 1, we would have folded then. Jim also needs to stop talking pish, its not the first time that he has claimed that Rangers have better players than us. He needs to stay off of whatever he is drinking. Kev for once I have to agree with you regarding the formation, I think BR wants to change it

[@ACelticStateOfMind]

Where, in the two defeats throughout the entirety of 2024, did you see Rangers dismantling this Celtic side the way they did? That just comes across as a heavy dose of hindsight. As for the amount of games I’ve watched… We’ve covered every kick of the ball over the last five seasons… and I’ve been going to Celtic Park since 1987… so I’ve seen quite a few John 👍🏻

[@BengalsJon71]

@@ACelticStateOfMind Where did I mention the two defeats in 2024, I mentioned that this has been coming. We were very lucky to win the final, there have been other games that we have won but played bloody awfull and got away with it due to the other teams not being good enough to exploit us, The 3-0 game against Hibs wasn't as easy as the scoreline suggests and Hibs had plenty of chances to score but don't have the ability. We could have been 2-0 down to Aberdeen in the first 25 mins of the game we won 1-0 but again Aberdeen couldn't take advantage. Even our 2-0 win at Killie, they had chances to go 2-0 up before we scored our goal in injury time in the first half, Taylor going awol again let them get in behind only for there young striker to fluff his chance and then Kasper keeping the game at 0-0 against Watkins, so please don't make out like this performance has been some kind of one off and we have won every other game easily this season. Even games where we have won easily, there are very, very few that we have dominated for the 90mins. usually this team play very well for the first 45mins and then look like they have taken there foot off the gas or we pass, pass, pass until the other team get tired and we score a few late on. I'm not complaining regarding the position we are in but you need to take a long look at the performances and be honest and admit that if other teams took even half the chances that we keep presenting them with then this league would look awfully different. Oh by the way, I watch the show every day and have done since covid although I don't get a chance to watch it live and watch it every night and want to thank you for keeping me sane but please be honest and not just a fan boy. I'm also pretty sure that you have mentioned a few times that you don't get to games any more, I started going to Parkhead '86 with the Shamrock Rovers game being my first

[@bygoneera9521]

Il deny scales has outperformed trusty wtf u talking about?! Trusty had one bad half n got hooked …..scales a bombscare every sec he is on that park. The team looks nervous while he plays, we have a swagger when ccs n trusty where playing together.

[@scotiavelo1405]

I’ve not got confidence in BR making January signings. Wed £26m on the BENCH and he didn’t trust them. And don’t say Engels was ill. He’s been on the bench the past few weeks. So WHY are we spending that amount cos these and Europe are the games these players were bought for. The manager FAILED to change a system at HT. and then it’s damage limitation followed by his ludicrous statement “maybe our 14 point lead spooked our players. What utter nonsense. Even on Thursday like all of our games we have around 65-70% POSESSION. And we have nothing to show for it at HT 0-0. Rarely go forward - well that’s how we’ve a Captain who always plays EASY side and backwards passes.

[@scotiavelo1405]

Jim 🙄 they did bottle it.