Where Does Tyr Come From? - God of War Theory

[@KaptainKuba]

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[@alexandarpetrov1275]

This is awesome theory and sounds logical, but I have another theory about the future of god of war. What if the man in the mural is Kratos (I think is Tyr but anyways) and he sacrificed himself to safe Atreus, this way he will go in the higher place of existence and the rest is hystory

[@androidgaming6948]

Bro there is something that bothered me for some time as we all know that kratos goes back in time after killing sister of fate and also goes way back in time before the titans are defeated .if he could do that why didn't he back in time when he was tricked into killing his family and prevent that.

[@alexandarpetrov1275]

@@androidgaming6948 Bruno Velazquez answered this question. He said Kratos was too angry and hungry for his revenge on zeus that he didnt think about it

[@F-14B]

Already submitted art using my other gmail account (which is lolgt)

[@KaptainKuba]

@@F-14B did you get a reply from me?

[@Tofilux]

Freya to Kratos: The gods here don't take kindly to outsiders". How did Freya know? Because she knows what happened to Tyr.

[@nadijathajan20]

OMFG

[@gabagaba761]

Bruh facs.

[@Kill-Kier]

I think she was referring to herself as a Vanir goddess who was exiled.

[@themercifulguard3971]

@@Kill-Kier That isn’t a strong opinion because Freya was part of the Vanir tribe. The Aesir never viewed anyone coming from the nine realms as outsiders.

[@Kill-Kier]

@@themercifulguard3971 But the Vanir come from a completely different realm to the Aesir and they were at war for a long time. By 'outsiders' they don't mean just the likes of Kratos from a different pantheon. Outsiders can mean anyone who is not a God from Asgard. Freya was treated terribly while she lived in Asgard. They murdered giants just because of what race they belonged to. They treat everyone else with disrespect. Odin is only interested in controlling the other races for his own gain and so doesn't view them as his own people. He acts out of fear. There was that tale from Mimir where he said everything was attributed to Frigg as they didn't want the Vanir getting any credit. Odin only cares about the Aesir and everyone else are outsiders.

[@H4S5A4N79]

Tyr being the first Norse god, Odin overthrowing him and then subsequently imprisoning him makes a whole lot of sense.

[@THE_GOD_SLAYER_]

It would be cool if odin got defeated and tyr becomes king again or tyr dies and kratos becomes the king or something idk

[@s0.diviine]

@@THE_GOD_SLAYER_ in stead of Kratos atreus

[@starwarsace4038]

@@s0.diviine yeah that's better because then kratos will move on to Egypt and give atreus the leviathan axe

[@mavvynne444]

Doesn't even makes sense at all. Odin is the King of the Norse Pantheon and Tyr is his son. Odin suspected that his son, trying to overthrow him & then getting imprisoned is the right way.

[@kingartison]

@@THE_GOD_SLAYER_ I think the second one is more likely

[@michaelgreen5419]

I think the story will be Tyr dying, remaining pantheons go full scale war and Kratos assumes role of Tyr as a God of war that fights for peace thus concluding the entire saga and giving Kratos a complete arc.

[@definitelynotjiraiya5063]

Badum ba ba ba, I’m loving it

[@Drukasss]

That would be so sick. Egypt vs Mayan vs Chinese vs Japan, etc.. and Kratos fighting them all for peace. Amazing

[@sirliamgalvez5276]

From what I know they are still gonna make 2 more games and gow ragnarok is a way to completely seal the norse trilogy and move on to Egyptian mythology

[@frednicolas9454]

Brilliant. I'm not even mad at you for spoiling it with this if this is the case. That's a great idea.

[@deveontreadway575]

Said in under 10 minutes 💪🏾

[@mohammedirfaanebrahim5835]

I still find it interesting that Kratos says "tyr, the old god of war IN these lands" instead of " Of these lands" implying tyr happens to be in these lands but not from it

[@rosegold_bunbun]

Oooh I didn't even really give much thought to that good job 😊😊

[@schwarzkopfG]

Tyr is odins son, you guys didnt play the game or what😂

[@stiven355]

@@schwarzkopfG bruh.

[@jplayz5933]

@@schwarzkopfG enlighten us oh wise one 🤡

[@paulglodo352]

@@schwarzkopfG clown

[@Jehanzeb88]

Theory - Kratos is considered as a patheon destroyer. Faye and Tyr were working togather. They wanted kratos to come to this land and kill this pantheon, As Tyr tried his best to make peace but failed because of ODIN. in GOW-R Kratos will destroy Norse pantheon and kill odin and then all other patheons will rush in to destroy kratos OR Tyr will use Kratos name to spark fear in other pantheon Gods to stay in line or kratos will come to destroy your pantheon.

[@Crazylom]

Brilliant move of him

[@KaiserBelisariusSantos]

Oh so he'll become like the boogeyman, but just for Gods?

[@acommoncommenter9364]

lol. kratos being john wick of pantheons

[@noro329]

This might also spark conflict with Kratos though cause we know Kratos doesn’t like to be looked at as a monster Even in the first God of War Kratos looks to be ashamed of being looked at as a monster and as “The Ghost of Sparta”

[@jplayz5933]

That’s clever but destroying the Nordic pantheon means killing everyone including baldur so idk if it didn’t go according to her plan

[@marc-antoinefournier5705]

10:27 I think Santa Monica should offer you a full time job considering all the work you put out on GOW. Love your channel and videos! Cannot wait to play the game and rewatch your predictions !

[@KaptainKuba]

That's very kind of you to say ❤️

[@dragonshinobi1978]

Yes, story writer perhaps.

[@jakelux4337]

So during a play through of GOW, I had a crazy thought. So I’m in helheim to kill the gatekeeper and Mimir and Kratos are talking about the consequences of killing him. Mimir says it would remove an obstacle for anyone trying to reach the inner sanctum of helheim and then asks who would ever want to go there. So with this statement and then Mimir mentioning that even Odin couldn’t withstand Helheim’s cold….. I thought this may be a bit of foreshadowing for the next game. Odin is made out to be pretty tricky and clever. So what if, the inner sanctum of Helheim is actually where he put Freya’s warrior spirit? It always struck me as odd that she needed the gatekeepers heart of all things. Seems to me like that would have huge repercussions? (assuming helheim wasn’t already overflowing with the dead since the valkyries were all already imprisoned not doing their jobs lol). However, whether she actually needed the heart or not, if her warriors spirit was in the inner sanctum this would remove an obstacle for her especially since she can’t fight. I realize this may be a stretch but just something to think about. If I’m being completely honest, I completely thought we would cross the bridge of the damned on my first play through. Just like i figured we would be jumping off the path in the realm between realms when Brok first warned us to never do that. (That one was a bit more obvious since they actually had a little ledge leading to nowhere on that path with the option to jump prior if I remember correctly)

[@arvintyree1109]

It could be plausible. There would've been a plot hole with her being spellbound to Midgard. but she can ask the valkyries to retrieve her warrior spirit if she learns it's in helheim (or another realm)

[@lilchaos9212]

Another interesting thing in connection with that is that perhaps Hel has it? She was imprisoned in Helheim in the myths and due to her being Loki's child and important for Ragnarok alongside her brothers Jörmungandr and Fenrir, it would make sense she would be locked or kept somewhere too. Maybe she'll help Freya or may even fight her since Freua technically wants to kill her grandfather?

[@PongKrell.]

You’re definitely on to something, I don’t Think they would add the part of “Even Odin can’t withstand the cold/winds of hel” for Nothing. I like your theory 👍 My theory about Helheim is that in GoW Ragnarok The giant bird, or Hræsvelgr, Will be a fight for cheating/interupting death. As Well as Surt might have some say, since he was mentioned as Well.

[@Timboiaan]

Don’t forget that Freya didn’t have her warrior spirit before Kratos kills helheims gatekeeper, Freya battles with kratos and baldur at the end. That means she has her warrior spirit back, and we saw in the gow ragnarok trailer that she attacks Atreus and kratos

[@captainjacksparrow1518]

"That's interesting. That's very interesting"

[@odinnhrafnsson6267]

Take it from an Icelander: Týr was the head of the pantheon for tribes living in Scandinavia that predate the vikings.

[@captainjacksparrow1518]

Do they predate the Greek? Honest question

[@snarf2400]

@@captainjacksparrow1518 no, Greek mythology is much older

[@JarlMaximus]

@@snarf2400 nah it’s not

[@himum3429]

@@snarf2400 You mean Mycenaean and Minoan mythology is much older, Classical and Ancient Greek mythology isn't as old as the first Germanic tribes mythology. But it is based upon older bronze age Mycenaean mythology and they are supposedly based on even older Indo-European mythology which likely does predate those Germanic tribes (as far as we know). So your right, but you have to be more specific lol.

[@pikachusucks5151]

Why is Iceland called Iceland and Greenland called Greenland?

[@rohandhauni5887]

in mimir's tales he almost sounded like tyr and odin were of similar position in the pantheon so it might be a possibility that he is from another place

[@chrismagno0621]

Cory, Eric and the whole Santa Monica team are punching the air rn for you exposing them this bad hahahaha. Jokes aside, great video! I just finished GoW 2018 for the first time a few days ago; it was PHENOMENAL. But finishing the game just left this huge God of War sized hole in my heart, which fortunately your videos have filled! Keep up the good work!! Super excited to play Ragnarok.... in 4 years when it gets ported to PC.

[@mohammedoamer1313]

Why you wait when you could buy Playstation

[@chrismagno0621]

@@mohammedoamer1313 tempting, but I'd have nothing to eat for 3 months after. Still might consider tho

[@mohammedoamer1313]

@@chrismagno0621 I hope you the best luck and better place financially when the sequel comes out because I am in the same boat💙🐍

[@johnmorgan6316]

Dude if you can afford a pc to play ragnarok, you can definitely afford a ps5

[@stiven355]

Will the game come out on ps4 aswell?

[@Writing_Gamer_513]

After playing the game and finding the real nugget of truth, Tÿr never states his origins at all.

[@adelin3728]

Soooo...basically, the original idea David Jaffe had in mind, regarding Jesus making an apearance in the GOW universe, sort of became reality? That's neat! Also, I keep thinking of this particular idea. What if everything that actually defines Tyr, like goodness, the will of helping others, basically his overall image, is just words? What if he in fact only wanted to reach some ultimate goal and he is a false good god? Huh, i can only imagine the intrigue. Don't mind tihs, i love drama and plot twists, i know this isn't the case for such theory :)) Also, it seems like everything revolves around The Higher Plane of Existance. Maybe we'll have a small peak of it this time. Great video man! keep 'em coming!

[@frederikpapcun8965]

Dude this Theory is briliant !!!❤️❤️❤️ Tyr coming from a higher plane of existence is just SOOOOO EPIC

[@cosmicgrub360]

Its always possible that odin didn’t want people to know tyr was his son he did hide the fact freya was baldurs mother could have disowned him thats a possibility

[@333dae]

he attributed all freya’s work by calling her frigg because he didn’t want a vanir goddess to be respected, baldur is said to be his finest tracker so odin obviously values him a lot

[@aalennn1]

(Just general thought ) and in the boss fight with Baldur ,he would say that he's not like his brother ,if Kratos had given what he wanted he would have simply walked away but the question here is why was he there ? 1) most people would say he was tracking the giants and he mistook Kratos as a giant but didn't Thor and Odin wipe out every giant ? and comparing the size cant Baldur see the difference that Kratos is not the one he's looking for 2) or did Odin tell Baldur that Atreus is carrying the cure he's been looking for the entire time. (the green arrow that brok offered to Atreus). For some reason I find the whole plot of GOW4 is plan framed by ODIN to trap Kratos and Atreus

[@cosmicgrub360]

@@aalennn1 jotuns are a race and arent all “giant” like his wife isnt a giant, baldur is looking for any survivors, odin doesn’t know they are al dead but they might not be, baldur was tracking fey remains

[@weaver3636]

Now that you mention it, The model for Tyr does have some resemblance to Zeus...

[@drinkduff6536]

I wonder what Tyr is gonna say when he finally meets The Ghost Of Sparta face to face.

[@zacharysmutko7252]

Kratos doesn’t seem to know much about the Norse gods but he strangely outright stares Tyr is dead like he knew it first hand.

[@godofwarlorefather3749]

When kratos asked “are you coming with us” his mouth isn’t moving

[@godofwarlorefather3749]

@Prabh Sandhu slow it down it goes off when he Sais us and that’s what I’m saying why would he say in a calm voice are you coming with us when he seems to shake tyr awake

[@godofwarlorefather3749]

@Prabh Sandhu I’m betting on modi from us killing Thor and giving him his hammer in ragnarok

[@gipro1]

This would definitely tie things up nicely. I'm hoping to see more of Athena in Ragnarok.

[@saunshilu]

Sorry to burst your bubble...

[@GeonusKaikun]

Man, it's funny how you are not only coming up with the same theories I've long held, but even confirming them as as plausibility with facts! Even before GOW 2018 came out or was even announced, I had the theory that this higher plane of existence created all of the primordial deities of each pantheon. I speculated this higher plane to have been the Gnostic pantheon (which I believe it was you who made a video about this a while back), and that Athena either became a servant to the aeon Sophia, became Sophia herself, or was in fact Sophia incarnate within the Greek pantheon. The same may be true for Tyr. Great minds think alike!

[@happygamer1967]

For some reason these vids, hypes me up for GoW more than the trailers

[@dark_night8268]

I had a thought: What if the secret thor scene in god of war 2018 is the opening to ragnarok, it's years in the future, so the boy will be older. Also, every god of war game starts with the camera on kratos, so it will start with it zooming out where you see him in his bed sleeping until thor talks to him. It would be an awesome intro, to through you back in.

[@professionalidiot4987]

Damn it now I want to see the God of Wars in all pantheons to fight eachother.

[@Killer-Body]

Maybe Tyr split from Ymir's flesh just like Odin (knowing He's the father of all creatures in Norse Mythology) At the same time. And that's the secret Odin doesn't want it to be revealed. And maybe it's also one of the reasons we don't know why Tyr is imprisoned in Asgard. But who knows, it's just a random theory.

[@defox6308]

His theory suggest Tyr existed before ymir

[@urospavlovic7189]

Tyr is Serbian

[@himum3429]

@@spaceghost9969 Didn't Odin have brothers that died. Maybe Tyr is an adaptation of one of those.

[@GodEmperorOfShorts]

As someone who just played the game on PC, the one take away from all the Tyr stuff is just how ever present Tyr's actions are, and always for good, which is a distinct difference from how almost every god is portrayed, and this lends to me credence to the idea that he's an outsider. Which would explain why Kratos' has to follow Tyr's trail as another outsider. Plus I just also like they scholarly theory that the Aesir gods where created to replace the "foreign" gods aka the Vaenir . And i think the devs are at least away of this since they made Freya and Frigg the same person in their story.

[@LJGrindewald]

I'd love this in the series. I'd love it if you could go back to Greece. Even if you Kratos doesn't physically go there. If Greece is mentioned and the other Pantheon's are it'd be awesome.

[@upaz84]

This theory is so fitting that it has to be true or i'll be disappointed, i've thinked about this since the first time i've seen Tyr's temple.

[@nikolaospapageorgiou2575]

Here a theory of mine: The events we witness in every God of war pantheon seem to be the same. Baldur matches with Ares, Tyr matches with Athena, Odin with Zeus etc. So, what I believe, is that the bird Egyptian God in fallen God( I don't rember the name) is the God that matches with Athena and Tyr in the higher existence. Maybe the characters matching are all being "controlled" by some higher beings trying to change the pantheons in earth in different ways. Hope you appreciate my theory

[@ltgames300]

I don't see how Baldur matches with Ares, but you might be on to something.

[@Mohamed-ow8pg]

Bro WTF all u said makes non sense first off fallen God book have nothing to do with story they did it so they explain why kratos lived even tho he died and Baldur is not even close to Ares use ur 2 left brain cells man

[@PastafarianLemur]

They're all being controlled by... The Elder Gods. That's right: another Kratos/Mortal Kombat crossover coming up! :P

[@ВладиславБулаев-л3э]

Baldur is more like Young Kratos bruh, not Ares.

[@nikolaospapageorgiou2575]

Relax bro I m just theorizing

[@thefinalsolution247]

So I just had a thought. When the World Serpent talks to Mimir, Kratos, and Atreus(Loki) why did he only recognize Atreus?? Does that mean Kratos dies before the World Serpent is born? Otherwise why wouldn’t he recognize both of them?? Also on another note when he think that they’re Asier he gets visibly aggravated and if Kratos doesn’t age very much also due to his looks why would he even confuse him for Asier at all? My theory unless something changes is that Kratos died in that timeline where the Serpent was originally from sometime before the Serpent was born.

[@jplayz5933]

Maybe I might’ve misunderstood what you understand but atreus is the father of the serpent so maybe he just recognizes him cuz well it’s him but younger lol but I like your thought

[@lilchaos9212]

Well based on what we know from Jörmungandr, he did indeed come from another timeline since he seems to have came from an alternative timeline where Kratos and Atreus never set off in their quest. Why? Because he won't be born and old enough, along with his siblings, to fight in Ragnarok. Both Loki and Angrboda are still children and no where near the age to have children, and seeing how he didn't recognise Kratos, something probably happened to Kratos in the original timeline that set Loki off to eventually cause Ragnarok. But in this timeline, because of Faye potentially learning things from Jörmungandr, she changed the timeline to a better outcome but now how Loki and Angrboda meet is different so perhaps it will the alternative versions of their children who escaped to this timeline that will fight. Since events changed, we have no idea how things will play out and if they will even have their future children still. But since, judging by Jörmungandr being shown and both Fenrir, Skoll, Hati and Hel being hinted at, they may have purposefully traveled to this new timeline to see that things play out like in Ragnarok with them all playing crucial roles.

[@Phenriir]

One thing to take into account is that on the weekly calendar. Tuesday a.k.a Tyrs day is the day before Wednesday which is known as Odins Day. This would be nice if it played into any sort of significance but food for thought nonetheless.

[@acnologia1020]

That would be fun imagine kratos and Atreus separating and fighting different pantheon to prevent the collapse of the world

[@starscourge_blackfyre1471]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!

[@kevinsupercharger7488]

Honestly I like this idea, i think it would be a nice way of continuing the god of war franchise after god of war ragnarok. It's a shame that this theory will probably never happen

[@RandomDude-gv3zu]

Feels like you just spoiled the roadmap of Santa Monica Studio. lmao Nice Video!

[@saboorheath7769]

Great video... your theory makes sense. Even tho we learn about Tyr's actions, we never find out about his origin. And the murals do show Odin & Thor locking Tyr up. If it's due to access Odin needed....killing Tyr doesn't help his cause either.

[@Twiceborn_by_grace]

Kinda funny that you said that about Jesus, while not exactly like him, Tyr does have some big similarities and I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw it. I was thinking I might be reading into it too much because of my faith.

[@memetos9375]

Ok

[@JT-yn6bk]

Jesus was black

[@rtautua3370]

@@JT-yn6bk yep

[@joelPallarosoNonone]

@@JT-yn6bk WTF really how ?

[@hereticslayer7612]

@@JT-yn6bk brown/bronze , he was middle eastern not black

[@raizoxp22]

Daam!! this theory builds up more interesting stories about other pantheon's 🔥 As there are good god's in almost all mythologies.

[@henryzamora9879]

Good theory Sounds like you exposed a lot of future story plots

[@145Gyeru]

Congratulations to 135.000 subs!

[@KaptainKuba]

Thank you ❤️

[@juanisol8275]

God of war Phanteons !!! 👏😍 this is getting wild and nuts!! Also nice reference cultural historical record!

[@Ebsalon]

I like the Jesus reference. Tyr being the son of God and Odin is Joseph

[@no.comply4787]

so Tyr is like the mithrandir of the nine realms. i like it. "A God of Law and Honourable duels is never late... nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

[@codycollins705]

Kuba has the absolute best theories we need more more more

[@Drimirin]

Your theory reminded me of a book I read years ago where Merlin is actually Jupiter fallen to a mortal form by the rise of Christianity. Can't remember the title but Merlin transformed the first bible (the word of God) into Excalibur: the god killing sword and it was used against Woden, otherwise known as Odin.

[@ramdhanisingh2103]

Well after watching this I can say that God Of War Ragnarok (GOWR) Could be like Game Of Thrones (GOT) With Tyr(hero) dying and the protagonist finishing the rest.

[@sr-71abhiraj]

I have a theory based on Odin's ravens that we kill during the game. So my theory is that Odin has already transcended into the higher place of existence bcoz the Odin's ravens in god of war are like athena, like they are made out of emerald which may signify that odin are from the higher plane of existence. Also this might make sense as Odin and athena are the gods of wisdom in their respective pantheons.

[@snowzombie86]

Awesome research Captain!

[@BalrogIsCool]

Back in very old germanic and norse mythology (10 000 years ago) and during the Bronze Age (3000 years ago) Tyr was one of the most popular deities. Here in Sweden where I live we have plenty of petroglyphs from the Bronze Age and back at this time Tyr was the most famous god together with Frö (later Freyr in English). There are 24 characters in the Elder Futhark that are split in 3 parts: 8 characters for Tyr, Frö and another named Hagal respectively. The eight characters of Tyr starts with "T" which is literally referring to Tyr himself, meaning the oldest Futhark has a rune standing for Tyr himself. Hence the theory that Tyr is not a son of Odin in the game would make sense to the mythology as well. However as the mythology developed it is not 100 % confirmed of Tyr's actual origin and different theories exist

[@Soulintent95]

I enjoyed seeing tyr presented as odin's best friend in ac valhalla. And i could see god of war going that route too. Would make a good story, odin's betrayal.

[@1Omar199]

What if after Tyr dies Atreus takes his powers and he is now responsible for keeping the peace and in the next games we play as Atreus as he travels between each mythology trying to restore peace

[@TyxTheRedSnapper]

According to a very old book from 1918, Tyr was more worshipped at the beginning as God of war. But after a while, people prefer to trade instead of killing each other (I mean, they also traded with slaves, so war seems not to be THAT out of fashion). And with peace comes an era of poetry and wisdom. That's when Odin become God number 1 :D Here is a ranking (according to this book) with their more famous nordic name and their less famous "southern" name: After Sun (Sunday) and Moon (Monday) Tuesday (from Tyr) or *Ziistig (from Ziu) Wednesday (Odin) or **Wodanstag (Wodan) Thursday (Thor) or Donnerstag (Donar) Friday (Frigg) not the same God as Freya! But still Odin's wife. *Only in German part of Switzerland, else it's now Dienstag **With the rise of Christianity, priests tried to wipe out the main God's name of the heathen, so it became "Mittwoch" Source: Deutsche Götter und Heldensagen; Für jung und alt erzählt von H. Möbius; 8th edition; published by Alexander Köhler in Dresden, 1918 It's in German thou, and written in fraktur script

[@quezcatol]

Im swedish and: Måndag = day of the moon Tisdag = day of Tyr Onsdag = day of Odin Torsdag = day of Tor Fredag = day of Freja Lördag = saturday BUT Lördag = viking word for washing- they would wash during this day Söndag = sunday the suns day.

[@TyxTheRedSnapper]

@@quezcatol That's so interessting! You guys have a washing day? And yes! Our languages and culture are kinda related, obviously not 1:1, but, let's say, cousins :)

[@quezcatol]

@@TyxTheRedSnapper germanic yes

[@utkarshshrestha272]

Keep doing the good job bro

[@belolopez9833]

Love the content Capo!!!!

[@andrwblood9162]

The reality is that the Norse Tyr is used along with a bunch of other gods, Zesus and Jupiter, to reconstruct an ancient language and culture know in modern scholarly literature as "Proto-indo-european." This is an origin point of cultures that found themselves in as far apart as the Iberian peninsula to northern Indian. It's the source of the Greeks, Germans, Celts, Latins, Slavs, Persian, etc language. You can see a continued use of a term in multiple cultures that is hard to imagine thousands of years ago. Like, Aos Si and Asura... gods and god-like beings... just like Aesir. It's mostly a theoretical reconstruction, but a real cool rabbit hole to jump in!

[@andrwblood9162]

As to this videos theory... there's another solution to religious origin to reality, other than a 'High Existence' with Prime Mover. And it's the older concept. That is, Ordered Beings rising from the chaotic lower forms or matter. That's what the Ancient Egyptians thought and so too the Greeks. Even the Norse thought this, as the Giant Ymir was born from the frozen spray of blood-like river. Then came the armpit babies.

[@aanshraj8955]

I think as Kratos refuses to think like a general , Tyr would become the new general of the army for Loki in the ragnarork.I think there will definately be a huge war scenes and fights just like we see in Avengers end game .

[@dmitrishostakovich5209]

I swear you should be working for Santa Monica, you are a genius!

[@daniellel.lajuett6313]

I have a theory. Since the prophecy of ragnarok is that the world serpent cracks Yggdrasil and gets casted back in time before his own birth. And when mimir talks to the world serpent, the serpent says Atreus seemed familiar. In Norse mythology Loki is the world serpents father. So the world serpent we know and love was already sent back in time before his own birth.

[@Laith_Shahin]

You just said the same thing twice

[@kingsj7662]

I would love for them to do a spin-off or even with Kratos, exploring the the world before the gods

[@fict_offical]

LOVED IT!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ you’ve been teasing through Livestream to livestream!…..You like to tease don’t you?😂😂😂

[@KaptainKuba]

Hahahaha only when it's a really really cool video lol

[@Fiachra1047]

I've always said that a god of war game where the pantheons or maybe just one or two pantheons go to war and kratos either has to resolve the war and create peace or fight for one side and help them win. Or he could just kill everyone lol

[@royodeboer]

Love the videos, can't wait for Ragnarok to come out.

[@obfys]

tyr in ragnorak is gonna be like "i know of you, god of war but one who fights for vengeance and pain, pathetic" kratos: "watch your tone boy"

[@jplayz5933]

I also love that in the next game there’s more life as in we see lots of dwarves cuz we’re in their realm and we see other humans like angrboda (butchered that).. ragnorok seems more lively

[@martintorres1062]

I didn't know that 3rd part of Tyr being a higher god but I hope they stick with it.

[@zababooeey]

Mimir might be a future version of tyr bc they both got glowy eyes n shit

[@kaosbeast2202]

Another great video as always

[@MatthewSedgley]

I think he may be Odin's son but hated the rule of his father and when he traveled other races blessed him with strength ect ect but all the theory's in this video I can understand like Hymir's son and a 'celestial' being I understand

[@himum3429]

I think it's possible he's Bor. In all of the mythology we've peiced together and all of the media representations he's always overlooked. We hear his name and then suddenly Odin is king. Most people don't even know that Odin has a father lol. Let alone one that is said to be a powerhouse in his own right. I think Tyr may just be Odin's father who he overthrew (Zeus Vs Kronos style lol).

[@DylanIndeed]

I was rewatching your GOW greek saga from beginning to end and forgot that the enterance to the sisters of fate had a large eagle near the entrance. And obviously GOW 2018 also has a large eagle, granted in GOW 2 the eagle is an statue i just find it interesting how both have a super large Eagle or Bird guarding whatever. Don't know if its just coincidence or what but still.

[@ulfsark78]

Tyr and Zeus, etymologically, are the same god. Going backwards into proto-Germanic and even further back, you have Tyr, Tiwaz, and then the Proto-Indo-European Dyeus. Dyeus obviously is the root of the Latin Deus, but in ancient Greek, it became Zeus. In modern Greek, its Theos. EDIT: I typed this before I started watching the video LOL To expand, the Norse pantheon ultimate came from the Hindu Vedas.

[@onionshrekgirlfeet3249]

No

[@paramjani4965]

Tyr's death will lead to final fight with odin and Norse setting is done there leading to next saga which is set in Egyptian mythology.

[@HovektheArtist]

Before watching i wanna personally say i hope tyr is either from or spent enough time in celtic myth to be nuada argetlam or nuada silver hand and both were the first gods of their respective pantheons and were gods of war and order, both had metal left arms, and its a common idea that irl crosspollination combined the two

[@godofwargeek]

yooo kap, thanks for shouting me out 👊, still crazy we had a similar idea lol enjoyed yours alot

[@KaptainKuba]

Yours as well man ❤️

[@purple_haze8160]

I must say this is a very reasonable theory

[@drante8034]

calm and reasonable

[@MyCYRE]

I think your on to something Kuba ..🤘⚒️🔥

[@steveg8029]

It's good that you're making this video because not everybody follows God of war geek that follow you. So just because another KZbinr that does God of war content makes a video doesn't mean you can't make a video or you should make a video about the same topic

[@adankmemeindisguise1654]

Nice theory but I think the next set of games will take place in the Egyptian pantheon where something will happen and brings the three mythologies together like they had first imagined

[@ritchierich2793]

"Thats just a theory, a Game Theory"-oh wrong channel....

[@benitobuenavides7690]

thats a nice TYReory. 😀

[@theboat9311]

This is an amazing theory, keep up the amazing research

[@AntoZeus]

Omg goosebumps bro 💚 🇮🇪 💚 edited = Zeus will always be a power house

[@chrissellner7657]

..."we thought Tyr was dead, but it was the other way around." We're dead she Tyr is alive?!

[@faithmedialife]

Great video!! Need a vid on your theory of who all main/sides bosses will be for the next game 👀. (Also, does Kratos pick up Mjolnir as a side piece!)

[@manthenvashishth3769]

If Tyr is from higher plane of existence then it increases the probability of we all seeing another Athena cameo in the GoW ragnarok which this time maybe real, idk. Also, Kaptain Kuba can't it be that the mural we see in jotunheim will eventually be atreus witnessing how his mother death during the time travel and he will be mourning that and we will see atreus unlock the spartan rage on the Aesir god who killed Faye. Cuz we still don't know how Faye died.

[@manthenvashishth3769]

@Prabh Sandhu yeah I get it. but just considering that plot hole kinda thing where we don't know how Faye died. Only with that in mind I said so. I'd say it'll be Tyr in the game.

[@Thegamer12342]

One thing worth mentioning is I bet tyr was imprisoned by choice as to not cause violence and chaos in the pantheon.

[@om1kron]

not seeing david jaffe looking like a hobbit feels uncomfortable.

[@DS-po6zd]

Now that's convoluted.

[@ПётрЛубберс]

I love your channel

[@KaptainKuba]

Thank you ☺️

[@Noma]

I would also say according to what is in the mythology that Tyr was the first god until Odin came and dethroned him and called himself god of all. if you look at the days tyr is before odin, tyr is tuesday and odin is wednesday, of course you could say he sees himself as the middle and therefore wednesday, but as far as i know it's more something new with wednesday than middle, i don't know whether it is said like that everywhere because in German "Mittwoch - Wednesday“ „Mitte - middle“. I think Tyr comes at first

[@hell0men851]

I don't think that Tyr is Odin's son because family plays a big part in God of war and Tyr is not mentioned to be related to any other Norse god where as all of them are related to each other in some way. Tyr must of been sent from the higher existence to stop wars around all pantheons since he is the only unselfish god that we know of

[@connor4435]

Idk, I think Tyr was locked up by Odin not because he’s from a higher plane but because Odin wants to control fate, we see that Tyr still has both his arms in the trailer but before Ragnarok happens Fenrir must rip one of them off, I think that Odin locked Tyr up so that Fenrir couldn’t remove Tyr’s arm and help start Ragnarok before Odin is ready

[@exchellfire8547]

Make a theory on "how kratos and atreus will find tyr"

[@МишаКай-щ7т]

Sorry for the clumsy English. Online translator. I don't know if they will read this not a small theory with time and a paradox. Well, I will write anyway. (Everything that will be in the framework is from the myths and legends of Scandinavia) Let's start with the legends of Loki: Loki is the god of fire and guile. One of the main characters of Scandinavian mythology. He is considered the main villain, but in fact, Loki constantly balances between good and evil, doing both good and bad deeds. Loki's parents are the giant Farbauti "Kratos, I will explain later why he is a giant", and the goddess Lauveia. Loki is not Odin's adopted son, but his sworn brother. They are connected by an ancient rite of fraternity. Loki fights Heimdall and both of them die from fatal wounds. Thus ends the story of the god of fire Nuances of the first part of the game: Mimir suspiciously did not want to go with Kratos and Atreyam to the mountain of giants will scatter the ashes of Kratos' Wife "Lauvey" mother of Atreus/Loki. There is a possibility that Mimir knows Loki, and knows where he is now. During the second part of the game God of War: Ragnarok.There are older versions of the characters. Kratos/Tyr Atreus /Loki Plot Theory of God of War: Ragnarok According to the plot, we will release Tyr and the conclusion of the dungeon, there will come a moment in the game where Kratos and Atreus will have to go to the sides in time to save each other. Atreus' time travel will take him to Greece to the half-dead Kratos. Perhaps this refers us to the clippings in the wall where "Kratos lies near Atreia, something comes out of Atreia." Atreus will give part of his divine power to save his father, thereby sharing the essence of the giant. And he will return to Scandinavia, the beginning of the beginning, under the name of Loki, will join the aces, hiding his whole essence, and will deceive the gods about his present origin, and the future, seeing Loki "the god of deception". (He is considered the main villain, but in fact, Loki constantly balances between good and evil, doing both good and bad deeds). There Loki and his first wife will please - Snake, Wolf and Hel. Perhaps Atreus' mother will help, recognize her son in Loki, because she knows the future, and will help prepare for a great war with the Gods. What is most interesting in the first game of the Kratos philosophy "Children should not kill their parents, and there is no revenge. After all, the whole path of Kratos was the very revenge of the wife of "Lauvey", to avenge the giants. All the way through, she predicted, and the death of Balder, which would lead to Ragnarok's death to all the gods. And so she will take revenge on Asama. "Then you can develop the game about Atreus in the form of Loki, and how he learned his divine powers, such as occur in myths, preparing for a great war" "Alone" will be interested in the legend of Ragnarok and find out that Loki will be the cause of a big war when he kills Bldor, and after Balder's death, Ragnarok will begin. After learning about such a legend, Baldor's mother Freya will want to save her son by making him immortal. And "One" for not yet committed crimes Loki children (wolf Fenrir will put on chains. Thor will encounter the serpent Ermungand and, having broken the tree of worlds, will transfer the serpent to the world of Kratos and Atreus. The gods chain Loki for life in a cave on a rock deep underground. To prevent the end of the world. The history of Kratos. Before he moves in time to the beginning of the beginning, mimir will give Kratos his eyes. And there he will meet Odin under a different name as "Tyr", and will wander around the world, as in the history of Tyr in the game. Gaining experience before the battle, in Egypt, Japan and of course in Greece before the events of the death of Olympus. And here we will get games on the "God of War" in different countries, except Greece, because they will all fall flat. Tyr and Kratos are a little similar - Tyr is a peace-loving god, which Kratos may come to. After all, Kratos has already begun to avoid war with the gods, only protecting himself if necessary. There are small nuances between Kratos and rostam Tyura, eye color, tattoos and white skin. White skin is a curse, and perhaps Kratos will redeem himself after his long journey. Tattoos in the world of magic can be erased or replaced through runes, etc. Growth, if the theory turns out to be true, then Atreus, saving his father, will give his part of the giant or give it completely, and it can be understood that Kratos will still grow up. Giants don't get old, they don't get sick. The eyes, as I said, will give Mimir. (Tyr, according to some legends, is read from the genera of giants), and in the game he is apparently a giant. When Kratos/Tyr learns that his son is Atreus/Loki in a bidet, in prison, will arrive in Scandinavia to save him, but "One" will already be waiting for him, realizing that Tyr is also involved in the death of the gods, and with other aces will put him in prison. This is already a theory of gameplay. What is the probability that we will be given to play for Tyr, and finish the battle with the gods by him? And in the game, when Atreus and Kratos free the Prison, go back in time, we will be given control of the Prison to free Loki, that is, the son. (When the end of the world begins - Ragnarok, Loki is freed from his shackles and takes part in the last battle on the side of darkness). Tyr and Loki, having gone a long way, will still fight in a big war. According to legend, Tyr without a hand, in some pictures Tyr has a shield. Like Kratos in the game, it's not a big coincidence. This theory is based on time travel, this is the paradox of the "Principle of self-consistency" of time, the cycle will close like a snake devouring its tail. Kratos and Atreus will make big circles before the battle, will be embodied in their mythical tales of Loki and Tyra. And the players will get into the hands of already experienced gods who will fight to the death. I repeat. Players will get to travel through the countries of Kratos before the battle. Atreus will co-exist with the gods of Scandinavia in a separate game, preparing for war. I repeat that it is very strange that they did not explain to us how Kratos got to Scandinavia, how he survived, even though there was a comic, which is very suspicious. So there is a plan for this understatement, and to give an answer later.

[@KaushikPrajapatid12]

I think i found something in the GOW Ragnarok trailer video that no one has pointed out yet. I think the reason Tyr has not tried to escape from his prison is because he is tied by the unbreakable rope created by Brok and Sindri called Gleipnir which is actually used to tie Fafnir. And this is the reason Tyr is not free. What exactly are the implication of this on the story, I haven't tought about it yet. But I find it intersting that the reason Tyr looks so disheartened is bcz he has realised that he cannot breat the rope. Fafnir was tied to the rope by gods telling him they wanted to test the rope. I think the same was done to Tyr by Odin (Since Tyr is very trusting) and as a result he was captured by Odin.

[@F-14B]

6:42 ETERNALS?????

[@Nuissance4]

How you make these videos are so great and your theories make so much sense thanks Kuba

[@MFCirca]

Sir, this is a very big brain theory. Well done.

[@KaptainKuba]

Thank you ❤️

[@mavvynne444]

Hopefully 1 day, Santa Monica decide to offer you a full time job as their lore master for God of War games

[@marekpuskac5282]

I lowkey wished the next pantheon was slavic.When you think about all those monster you could fight against. Also slavic gods are very cool, like Perun, that is basically same as thor except perun is god of weather, not just thunder.

[@paulsmith9192]

Is someone guarding this higher plane of existence? Like a future boss?