Which Legendary Bird is BEST in Pokemon Gold/Silver?

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They're legendary Pokemon, but are they actually BEASTS when it comes to defeating the 16 Gyms and all the difficult trainers? Wait, that was the last video... let's try this again. Are the Gym leaders gonna be a BIRD course?
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Edited by @SimplyAJ @makegamemusic
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Rules:
Rules: (1) Only use the one Pokémon in Battle, others for HMs are fine. (2) No Items in battle (3) No Glitches/cheating (4) Set Mode (5) No evasion moves (6) No Hidden Power (7) Must get HM05

[@Jrose11]

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[@Sherlock9827]

I love seeing you get these sponsorships but man they really messed up not making the code JROSE YT 11

[@AndresD.deLeon]

So your code isn't working for me. Does it not work if I have Prime?

[@willardpatterson706]

Jrose, why not make 3 videos? 3 times the views, add, revenue, etc.?

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

Definitely gonna have to take advantage of this sponsor when the bossman promotes me to diesel mechanic soon.. good one Jrose

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

​@@willardpatterson706and 3 times the sponsors, especially the good ones like this

[@kaptainKrill]

“I started by freezing Clefairy, which is pretty solid.” A totally overlooked Jrose joke.

[@user-lh5dc5cy1b]

Idk I thought the joke was that it wasn't significant in whether Articuno would have won or lost

[@SirGrimly]

"Totally overlooked" *the top two comments point it out* lol

[@kaptainKrill]

@@SirGrimlyin my defense, I did post this about 10 minutes after the video was posted. But I agree that it’s pretty great 😂

[@SirGrimly]

@@kaptainKrill XP

[@Begeru]

@@kaptainKrill then how could you even know it was overlooked when it’s only been 10 minutes

[@kaathesacolyte2943]

Both Raikou and Zapdos not getting Thunderbolt in this gen is criminal

[@cyberdarkturtle6971]

Gen 2 sucked, what did you expect?

[@bassplay666]

I thought it was just Raikou but dang, that is complete nonsense. Old gens are olddddd

[@sonicdoommario]

What's more criminal is removing access to teach Thunderbolt to electric Pokemon that don't learn it through level-up in Gold/Silver, same with Ice Beam, only Crystal you get that tutor outside the Game Corner.

[@user-lh5dc5cy1b]

​@@cyberdarkturtle6971WHAT DID U SAY TO ME U LITTLE SHIT Well I would say that, but aside from nostalgia yea gen 2 games kinda sucked gameplaywise

[@glitchedoom]

They get it in Crystal, just not Gold and Silver.

[@qweschuning]

Jrose telling the story of the birds and the beasts to the kids. How nice.

[@WarVeteran213]

I get it instead of the birds and the bees lol

[@K-H-28]

If you keep doing these side by side comparisons in GSC, it'd be cool to see a Mew - Celebi race

[@pizzatowerfan789]

we all know mew would win

[@CarliVala]

Looking forward to a Lugia VS Ho-Oh race in Gen 2

[@rubadub15]

Yeah i dont think celebi has much of a chance against mew

[@yamiryushi]

Parents: it's time to talk about the birds and the bees. Jrose: It's time to compare the birds and the beasts.

[@TheWhitePenny]

Always loved the design of Articuno.

[@RoyArkon]

Same here

[@AzureAlliance31]

They did our favorite bird so dirty in this gen :(

[@MLPIceberg]

Articuno is the most regal of the three gen 1 Legendary Birds. Just like Suicune being the most elegant of the three Legendary cats in gen 2. (I know some people think they're dogs. They aren't since they have more feline features. I also understand that most people refuse to refer to them as felines and call them beasts instead. I refer to the as cats, sue me. lol)

[@mattdeluccia153]

Same here. No wonder League of Legends copied the design almost exactly

[@theforgottenera7145]

And the sp def

[@kalasrey1670]

Something that might help you in these runs is learning about Damage Rounding Thresholds. There's a whole formula about it and detailed explanation out there, but the long and short of it is, when a pokemon with a lv ending in 0/3/5/8 attacks, they have better damage ranges then they would at other levels. So if you grind and aim for lv62, for example, you would be getting much better ranges at lv63 due to the weird way damage is calculated

[@Richard_Nickerson]

than* they would I did not know this before. So weird.

[@pumpingpriest5893]

Is this true for every Gen or for what gens?

[@Begeru]

It’s weird he doesn’t know this by now lol

[@gambleralex5083]

​@@pumpingpriest5893every gen is like this yes

[@_Ytreza_]

it's especially true at a low level For instance at lvl 62 vs 63, the multiplier related to level n the formula only goes from 26 to 27. It's still a nice bonus but it's more impactful at say level 12 vs 13 where it goes from 6 to 7.

[@aliasname2257]

Life has been a blur since the last video

[@VelvetAura]

I feel you

[@hyrumkohler]

Saaaaame

[@MatthewMopo]

I’m a 33 YO wanker. I need these videos. My childhood was (secretly) defined by these game and Jrose is the only person who brings them to life

[@matthewdavis5588]

As a fellow 33 year old Matthew, I understand how you feel.

[@MatthewMopo]

@@matthewdavis5588 respect for having x2 ‘t’s’. Double super effective

[@wadespencer3623]

Moltres' back sprite absolutely slaps this gen, damn. So pretty.

[@derrickbartledoo2680]

Lugia and Ho-oh would make a fantastic dual run to watch, and much as I want to see it, I'm even more curious about Celebi. It had such an unusual typing and move pool when it showed up, and it would be neat to see how that would play out. Mewtwo would just be a victory lap, and Mew would likely see no real change. It maintained an even stat spread, so the Special split will barely affect it. The only change it would see is a few new flavors for it's massive arsenal.

[@kaph123]

Celebi would be interesting because I never used it anywhere and it wasn't available for us in the original games.

[@666chaox666]

Can I make a suggestion to the editor for the future? Can you add the times on screen at different intervals when Jrose mentions them, just so we have a visual indicator and a comparrison?! I would like to see just how different the times are visually when he's at similar points in the game in these 'which is better' runs. It would just make it easier to see how well one Pokemon is doing compared to another, especially at that point in this video with the 6th and 7th gym leaders.

[@MLPIceberg]

I suppose it'd be nice, sure, but who knows if Jrose even recorded those runs? Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. Or so he mentions off-handedly from time to time.

[@dlake1224]

Completely agree. Knowing times at different splits would drastically up the tension.

[@benediktwindisch2778]

Love these threepack challenges, especially in Gen 2. I started Pokemon at the age of 8 with Crystal. The three original legendary trios (birds, beasts and regis) are my favorite legendaries to this day and owning them back in those Gameboy Color and Advance times always felt special. No matter how bad they perform to todays legendaries

[@Altair1243WAR]

I always liked the Birds and their relationship to Lugia, but Entei/Suikune have always been the coolest, IMO (I guess by extension the beasts beat birds for me) That said, my favorite legendary is probably like Arceus or maybe Zacian (Zacian for style, not really anything else) though Lugia is pretty up there, too

[@aaronmorris6694]

I still have Zapdos and Articuno (from my original Leaf Green save) on Scarlet. I play around with the dogs but I don’t love them. I think I have the Regis in Home but I never liked them. I liked the puzzles but not the Regis themselves…

[@Promatim]

Jesus christ, I thought you got sponsored by water for a second there. Like, actual water, the beverage. I was about to be starstruck.

[@BioniclesaurKing4t2]

Sponsored by water. You mean like by Liquid Death?

[@Duddylee]

No, water the element. Sponsored by all of the molecules.

[@ApolloSniperman]

Water is not a beverage.

[@chadmckean9026]

6:26 "freezing Clefairy which is pretty solid" - nice job on the pun

[@Lebon19]

Definitely want to see Lugia, Ho-Oh and Celebi runs. Less Mewtwo because we know it's gonna wreck everything. Mew could be interesting but just because it can learn any moves it wants so, while its stats are better than the dogs and elemental birds... they're all the same... BST 600 with 100 in everything. Anyways. Seeing a Jrose video is always awesome.

[@PopeDuwang]

If this goes to Gen 3 at any point, would like to see a competition between Mew, Celebi and Jirachi.

[@saffronsolos7699]

A shocking upload, a heated race, and a chilling finish

[@iCANTsleep2]

Bars

[@Seetiyan]

Nicely done!

[@Yokie101]

Certainly is interesting to see the difference between the E4 and Red. Articuno being so good at that point and just falling to Red. All it takes is one of Red's pkmn to just destroy

[@sometimesjoeyplays]

idc how butt juice the birds have become over time, articuno has always been my favorite ever since 6 year old me really thought that was just a pidgey chillin in gen 1 seafoam islands

[@AzFYouTube]

If it makes you feel better Moltres and Zappos are still doing mostly well all things considered. Articuno not so much but occasionally has been niche in competitive scenes.

[@derrickbartledoo2680]

Articuno is possibly my favorite legendary, and is top tier in my books. Moltres is a gangster in GSC though, ever since my CC Nuzlocke where stumbling into it's cave when I did and catching it probably saved my run.

[@sometimesjoeyplays]

@@derrickbartledoo2680 it’s cuno’s cry for me

[@Serlac]

Well Articuno just won a huge VGC tournament last week

[@sometimesjoeyplays]

@@Serlac this is splendid news!

[@stronggreenflame]

Gold and silver wants you to use mudslap for its accuracy lowering. The next 2 trainers use moves that increase in power each time they hit, mortys most dangerous move is hypnosis and is weak to ground. I really dont think people should complain about uts use when its the intended play pattern.

[@Vile_Demiurge]

While I do recognize the applications to Whitney and Morty, I can't support this theory, as Bugsy's Scyther nulls Ground moves.

[@MLPIceberg]

Bugsy's Scyther ignore Ground Type moves thanks to its secondary Flying Typing. So that theory is only kind of true. But people will complain since they want freedom of choice and movement.

[@rainpooper7088]

Except Mud Slap can't hit Bugsy's Scyther and by the next gym most kids have forgotten that they even have Mud Slap considering how many people got whooped by Whitney. If "use evasion cheese" is what you got out of it that's more likely than not just another completely unintentional mistake on the game design's end, like Brock basically teaching you that status moves are worthless due to his unreasonably large supply of retroactive full heals.

[@ShinyTillDawn]

Which fossil did you pick? Comments are good for the KZbin algorithm!

[@Helvett.]

Agumon

[@termamonpiediepew]

Personally I'm a fan of both but I usually go for the bulky helix fossil ^^ Shoutout algorithm

[@Tombola8610]

Yo mama

[@SaltlakePromotionz]

There is only one fossil. All Hail Lord Dome!!

[@challengerchris8242]

Claw fossil

[@NymphieJP]

Parahaxs are only parahax when you paralyze the target with the secondary effect and then they are paralyzed that turn. It is not whenever the pokemon is paralyzed. The reason it's a hax is becaues the attacker had no chance of seeing the paralze hitting and you did it after the moves were already selected lol Just gotta say that. Love your videos man! Keep it up!

[@yesec9]

Yeah I agree, I always thought of a "true" parahax meaning you use a 10% para chance move and then you get the 25% "fully paralyzed" right after, meaning you hit a lucky 2.5% (1/40) chance event. Usually considered to be an "excessively, unfairly lucky" thing in competitive battling.

[@NymphieJP]

@@yesec9 That's true. Glad you wrote down the numbers because that's what makes it so lucky hahaha It's body slamming into a pokémon that will kill you if they attack, you paralze and then they fail to move. Stuff like that.

[@conmcg]

I've been wanting this for a while. Always awesome to see you man, you're a legend.

[@perkypenguin1663]

I wasn't expecting this video to show up, but I'm very happy it did! This was a very interesting watch, especially considering how differently the birds performed in Gen 2 compared to Gen 1 (I will say, I'm very surprised that Zapdos never learned Rain Dance to make its own Thunder infinitely accurate. It's likely that Jrose wanted maximum move flexibility though, just in case.)

[@Scobbble]

Great to see another upload from you JRose! I’d forgotten how much Articuno’s back sprite looked like a bottle opener.

[@Altair1243WAR]

Maybe, but that's a legendary bottle opener, ok? *I'm joking*

[@Scobbble]

@@Altair1243WAR No joke, it’s an absolutely legendary bottle opener!

[@SWISS-1337]

How did I never notice their names end in "uno, dos, tres"

[@steve7814]

Did you notice, hitmonlee = bruce lee, hitmonchan = jackie chan?

[@SWISS-1337]

@@steve7814 those were obvious.

[@Kali_Krause]

Articuno won a world tournament recently! Also, all three birds are weak to Milktank's rollout. Especially Moltres and Articuno with that x4 weakness to Rock

[@circularnectarine1439]

funny as hell that the Arti set felt like the thing 8 yr old you would make Specs Sheer Cold, Ice Beam, Freeze Dry, Blizzard

[@AT-il2ej]

​@circularnectarine1439 and yet it made perfect sense for it's role which is even better

[@j644]

Your sponsor was actually very intriguing as I love water but only if it's close to ice cold... I have a water bottle that keeps it cold now but it recently broke. Might have to check out iron flask. It's funny that since you've gotten sponsors I have actually been super into all your promotions of them as they're all things I'd really be interested in (P3, Iron Flask, etc.) You seem to really be in tune with your demographics based on my experience... Keep doing what you're doing my man. Been subbed for a while and no plans to stop watching 😅

[@MySelfTheThird-ft8fo]

I'm very surprised about articuno's time because i was expecting it to have the best time of the 3 ! Good job !

[@ashleybull4450]

Jrose uploads on a Saturday evening and it's an hour long 👌 straight to the main TV it goes 👌

[@guitarfreak80ftw]

I was literally just wondering when you would be back! :)

[@ShratTheMighty]

Timely video, with Articuno's recent surprise victories in VGC! Great as always :)

[@Trekkiejay]

Love your videos, excited for what’s next!

[@derrikjasper1283]

Awesome video as usual!! We definitely need a Ho oh vs Lugia run

[@Mr.Pokemanluck]

Can’t wait to watch this after work!!

[@lashedle115]

My sub feed was so dry... And then a wild JRose appears! Love ya brotha keep em coming

[@burntalive]

Imagine if Zapdos had a great moveset to go along with those stats.

[@jordanjohnson1525]

Thank you Jrose! This video is a blessing

[@MajesticStarDuelist]

If you're looking for more triples to do these style of videos, I've thought of a few options: The three starters, fully or not fully evolved Ariados/Ledian/Yanma - Bugs with similar BST Tyrogue/Wooper/Igglybuff - Babies with equal BST Pupitar/Corsola/Sudowoodo - Rocks with the same BST Raticate/Dunsparce/Furret - Normal types with similar BST Ho-oh/Lugia/Mewtwo - All the legendaries Gyarados/Lapras/Kingdra - Water monsters Pinsir/Heracross/Scizor - Bug Battle

[@qweschuning]

Tyrogue wooper Iggy sounds fire...

[@julianh.5372]

.....Wooper is not a baby pokemon. These "themes" are head canon lol

[@mr.number9279]

Awesome video. Surprised how good Zapdos did despite its best moves being Thunder and Drill Peck---but those are strong moves at least, just not accurate. Moltres was pretty surprising too, wonderful powerhouse there.

[@jaymz8222]

Will you continue making more gen 2 videos? I enjoyed these a lot.

[@fondofpeace]

Unintentional rhyme leads to bear pun vs. snorlax… “bear with me here…” I see you JRose! Nice

[@jamescooke3946]

Love your content man!

[@williamwitte773]

These videos are taking too long to drop 😩 I love all the gen 1 and 2 solo vids. Keep up the great work dude! I look forward to the next video!

[@tillhecameback]

Woah! Gratz on the sponsor!

[@BigJoe2.0]

We need more frequent videos! It's rough waiting for the next one lol

[@onthehunt2297]

Great job Jrose and I wasn’t expecting Zapdos to win but it was a great video and keep up the amazing work

[@Begeru]

Zapdos has always been the best in competitive play so it makes sense

[@raphaelrachedi6966]

Missed you so much ! Great video ! I like how you make various things. Recently I was wondering would you amaze us with more double battle challenges similar to kakuna rattata but with different Pokémon couples. Like could you beat emerald in double battles with Plusle and Minun ? Volbeat and Illumise ? Or other terrible Pokémon couples like that 😂 two luvdisks ? 😂😂😂 Anyway thank you for all your work !

[@RoyArkon]

DAMN this was a really crazy race. Amazing stuff dude.

[@veerooz]

great work man

[@xblthatguy7175]

I love seeing these races!

[@Saand_Mann]

Jrose there to make our weekend amazing! tyvm

[@jumborancher]

To continue with the Trios you could do RSE with the Regi Trio, Beasts, and Birds

[@LiamJR24]

9:16 Miltank actually has 50% more Def (105) than Sp. Def (70). Moltres' better Attack stat and Wing Attack's higher base power, compared to Ember, means that they should pretty much be doing the exact same damage.

[@GarfieldTheLightning]

The Zephyr Badge also raises your Pokémon's Attack stat by 12.5%, as well as boosting the power of Flying-type moves by another 12.5%.

[@lafusion6695]

I would love to see Mew vs Celebi, which mythical pokemon is better. Other cool ideas are Lugia vs HoOh or if you want to do something in Hoenn Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza or DeoxysA/DeoxysD/DeoxysS (Because the regis will just explode)

[@ryanu2352]

Fantastic vid jrose and aj

[@YahamM]

Great video!

[@Nightflameflyer]

Did not know where this would go. Been a nail biter lol. Good win for zaptwo

[@zigguratjones6458]

Love you Jose! ❤

[@gdifan123]

Really satisfying to watch this matchup being so much more competitive on Gen2! Gen1 was complete garbage for Moltres. Don't understand some people complaining about Zapdos not having Thunderbolt when it's already outperformed the rest by a mile. Electric+Flying is just such a strong type when it eliminates its ground weakness.

[@ericorange2654]

Oh heck yea I needed this today. imPeck-able timing as always Jrose.

[@ivanbluecool]

When I was younger Articuno was my favorite due to the design while I didn't like motres much at all as we had many fire flying types running around. Zapdos I didn't like how it had no electric moves so I ignored it. Now Zapdos is my favorite as any electric type that is immune to ground is a hero in my eyes

[@Kali_Krause]

Articuno won a world tournament recently! Zapdos was done dirty in BDSP. They took away Heat Wave, a move Zapdos relied on against steel types like Steelix and Excadrill

[@ivanbluecool]

@@Kali_Krause yeah I don't get how pokemon can remove moves and especially ones that give pokemon balance

[@namingisdifficult408]

@@ivanbluecoolsome moves I can understand. Mainly stuff like Synchronoise that’s nigh useless anyway.

[@timbit2121]

Another great video!

[@AIDANCALEBJACOB]

Hey dude, it would be super helpful if you put the times of each completed gym leader on the side of the screen as a good reference in the birds positions

[@donniedollarz4537]

Because of you I really got back into Pokemon playing rom hacks trying to do random challenges I love the content bro .

[@StupidButCunning]

Articuno and Zapdos were always my favorite of the Birds in Gen 1, I even preferred Articuno somewhat. But then Gen 2's Special split did Articuno dirty, so Zapdos became the only viable one imo. Tbh, I never thought Moltres was all that good, likely due to its Fire typing and Fire just being kind of bad in the first couple gens. I think Articuno would have been a contender for 1st had it kept its 125 Special Attack.

[@johnnynunez1843]

Jrose, truthfully you’re the man. I always enjoy coming across your uploads. It really tickles the nostalgic part of my brain that misses simpler times and wishes I knew half of this stuff as a 7 year old lol

[@kitten8444]

That ad read was…legendary

[@roamingnyiad]

I remember when the Legendary Birds were my fave Pokemon...and big shock Zapdos did the best of all the 'trio' Pokemon. If I have this correct, Zapdos is consider ABSURDLY cheap in Gen 2 competitive and that seems to reflect here as well. Poor Articuno being mostly shafted after Gen 1 until MAYBE getting a Galarian form in Gen 8. Articuno was my fave. But yeah, I liked this video quite a lot overall! I wonder if Lugia/Ho-Oh will be next.

[@impotentjrose11fan]

I never thought I'd hear the words " transform is completely busted in gen 2"

[@RD-rm6qm]

Please do a Dewgong run. Seal the deal!

[@Jib9001]

I like never comment on videos, but I'm legit so excited to see this I had to let the world know

[@armanigayle1018]

39:32 thunder missed four times the ai was like your luck just ran out bro

[@SeonilKim-ry5lj]

1:25 Iron Flask sounds like a paradox Pokémon name. Whatever it is, it would be either Steel/Water or Steel/Ice type.

[@Polarjeff29]

Jrose, I love your videos.. I've nothing more to say,I just want you to know that when you post content, I'm here to watch. I enjoy watching your content. I hope you keep producing content.

[@jessepowell2142]

Hope for all the legendary pokemon mentioned at the end and their runs

[@sonicthekahoot5479]

i bet these which pokemon duo or trio in a gen is the best vids will soon become a series

[@jigglykirby]

And here I thought you'd be keeping your gamer water cool with Articuno's Ice Beam :o

[@placidfalcon7715]

Great video as always, but i hope u limit this multi-pokemon thing to gen 2 and above.

[@piplupmaster4898]

YOO I ABSOLUTELY love this style

[@yunnaro87]

This was great from begining to end

[@RyanVecchi]

miss old school 2d pokemon. Recently after all these years, completed gen 1 and 2 pokedex. Years ago gen 6. I wish i had gen 5 to complete.

[@mussolini2525]

Always on time for a jrose11 video

[@caseyp5665]

Jrose with the discussion about the birds and the beasts ❤

[@RatedX29]

Something like an opposite impossible challenge would be interesting. Best case scenario for the pokemon. Perfect stats and hidden power and everything. To see how they do and the difference

[@Andy-qn5xi]

Can't wait for the inevitable Registeel-Regirock-Regice in RSE video

[@djbrohawk]

Always a good day when Jrose uploads a video

[@martinpiekarski1512]

Dont forget you still have a couple of 1st gen solo runs to finish. Concentrate them on them and do these kind of runs later. By the way, if you want suggestion - how about checking which pseudo legends from ach of first 3 gens can finish their respective game faster? Dragonite for R/B/Y, Tyranitar for G/S/C and Salamence and Metagross for R/S/E.

[@calamelli209]

A double feature of Jrose11 and Scott's Thoughts solo runs on the same day? Blessed.

[@joe_the_zombie]

So i actually already have an iron flask, got it last year for my birthday, that bottle slaps, can recommend

[@ronaldyates331330]

One thing you never took into consideration when playing was the fact that you kept over leveling the Zapdos and Moltres and save all candies for Art which means it would have better game play if you would have been leveling it up as you went through

[@lowqualitychaos9272]

I was happy to see Moltres make a come back :) it’s my favorite of the 3

[@Ultimaximus]

I would've liked to see the beasts' times at the end so that we can compare, since I don't remember them

[@paulwalker3758]

Not at that point in the video yet, but it would be interesting to learn what Hidden Power each Pokemon *would* have had & discuss how it might have made the run play out.

[@user-lh5dc5cy1b]

2:35 you heard him Hidden power makes the run too rng based and thus inconsistent, not fun and cringe

[@kleptrep94]

I wonder if you'll do this in other generations with their trio of legendaries (like the Regis or Hisuian birds or whatnot.)

[@madmatt1763]

New Jrose video HYPE!!!!

[@shadowkirbae4289]

If you taught Zapdos Rest against Red like Moltres has, then you wouldn't even have needed that Drill Peck crit. Otherwise pretty cool. I already figured Zapdos would do the best in this but it's surprising how handy Moltres' high physical attack was throughout all this

[@terryscott524]

crazy how moltres was able to one-shot rayquaza with the clutch crit at the end there

[@Richard_Nickerson]

It's always amazing to me what you call bad luck, or exceptionally bad luck as with the case of Thunder vs Lance. To me, missing 4 Thunders in a row is unfortunately commonplace. I understand that the odds are pretty low, but negative things with low odds of occurrence tend to occur really frequently for me. Some of the things you call bad luck, I see as completely normal events in my experience. I have played a LOT of Gen 1 and 2. I have my own gaming channel with some things about it, mostly shorts. But I've been playing both gens since their original release dates, and I'm a little older than JRose. Blizzard is the #1 misser for me. Squirtle/Blastoise have been robbed of some great runs with accuracy issues. I DEFINITELY get Gen 1 misses way more often than JRose does.

[@dangerfield6855]

Are you doing hooh and Lugia in a separate legendary bird video??