Which Off-Road SUV is King? 2020 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro vs Jeep Wrangler Rubicon - By the Numbers

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@Gas_man
@Gas_man 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about to buy a new car and leaning heavily toward the 4Runner mainly because of its track record for durability, low cost maintenance, and value retention. For most people a car purchase is the second most expensive thing they’ll spend money on after their house. Makes sense to me to buy something you can count on being around for a long time and something that will get you a decent return if you ever sell it. I typically hang onto my cars until they die (I hate car payments) so the value of a 4Runner seems tough to beat IMO.
@norsevikingsir4932
@norsevikingsir4932 4 жыл бұрын
Where's the offroading? I could google the info in this video.
@amertvyy
@amertvyy 4 жыл бұрын
Norse Viking Æsir Im going to start trying to get them out of my feed. They’re useless
@xl2676
@xl2676 4 жыл бұрын
Andrey fr
@kb9oak749
@kb9oak749 4 жыл бұрын
Off Road video with zero off road=fail.
@robertogura9890
@robertogura9890 4 жыл бұрын
Because the Toyota would fall far behind. I own a rubicon and giggle when the Toyo boys show up and try to keep up
@blackninja2871
@blackninja2871 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertogura9890 lmao you're funny...Toyota smashes jeep in all areas
@robertogura9890
@robertogura9890 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackninja2871 okay, dopey.
@blackninja2871
@blackninja2871 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertogura9890 Lmao yea...i never worked in a call center trying to work out everybody's jeep recalls 🤣
@blackninja2871
@blackninja2871 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertogura9890 comparing a crappy jeep to a toyota is actually laughable. Jeeps are traaaash. Especially the wrangler. You are clueless if u assume otherwise
@garnettorressizemore9465
@garnettorressizemore9465 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota reliability will always win in my heart. Go for 4runner
@jadenbertrand7114
@jadenbertrand7114 4 жыл бұрын
Luis Bolanos yeah okay there buddy have you ever just went on kijiji to see mileage of cars and see what vehicles have the most mileage and still running?
@CP-kb1du
@CP-kb1du 4 жыл бұрын
@Luis Bolanos rather have fat and slow than Zero and No Go Jeep ,,,,, 4runner is not overrated ,,,,,
@joban558
@joban558 4 жыл бұрын
That's true
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 4 жыл бұрын
Only the old Toyota’s have good reliability. Start leasing please maybe you can get a good car !!
@sinepari9160
@sinepari9160 4 жыл бұрын
Unless its offroad
@uconnapharm
@uconnapharm 4 жыл бұрын
I actually own a 2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2-door 30th Aniversary Edition AND a 2016 Toyota TRD Pro . From my personal experiences : Just for going Off Road - the Jeep - of course ! For an Every Day Driver - On & Off Road - All Rounder - the 4Runner Wins - Hands Down . If I could only own one of them , My Deal Breaker : I have driven each one on a highway drive , cross country ( traveling as fast as possible - legally ) Reaching my final destination in the 4Runner , I stepped out , feeling like I had been driving around town for the afternoon . Stepping out of the Wrangler , I was in need of a chiropractor .
@dawood2u
@dawood2u 2 жыл бұрын
Chiropractor 🤣
@mikes.4136
@mikes.4136 4 жыл бұрын
I would pick the Toyota. Quality and reliability wins the day!
@demoncleaner80
@demoncleaner80 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2020 TRD Off Road back in October. Love it, and have very few gripes about it -- really just wish it had more ceiling, but the Tacoma is like this also... While I won't really be doing any off-roading like this, it's already saved my bacon once a very badly washed out hillside country road up in Alabama.
@Trip1of3
@Trip1of3 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@northernfarmer3689
@northernfarmer3689 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota quality went down hill over the years. I've had about ten Toyotas over the years all trucks, one car. A few years ago I bought a brand new Camry to save on gas for long trips and within the first year the A/C started leaking water into the car, the entire interior got moldy not just where the leak was it spread everywhere it was so disgusting it looked like it had been sitting at the bottom of a river for years. It's happened to a lot of people there's a class action lawsuit against them over it, apparently it's only Camrys for some reason. My brother bought a New Tacoma in 2017 or 2018 and it started leaking oil with in the first few hundred miles, they had to put new seals in his engine. There not what they used to be.
@demoncleaner80
@demoncleaner80 4 жыл бұрын
@@northernfarmer3689 I drove a 2001 Tacoma for 17 1/2 years before this. While I'm only ~4000 miles in, so far it seems to be of the same quality.
@pryme2013
@pryme2013 4 жыл бұрын
Had my tundra 4yrs now no issues.
@scotchbrite1241
@scotchbrite1241 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the 4Runner! Not only will you save money on the initial price but also the lack of repair cost. With all the savings the money can be spent on upgrades to make the 4Runner more capable!
@anonymouswashingtoncenter3462
@anonymouswashingtoncenter3462 2 жыл бұрын
japanese parts are expensive...so nope
@RB01138
@RB01138 Жыл бұрын
​@@anonymouswashingtoncenter3462 north American parts have to be purchased way more often.
@JayceMacDonald-j4h
@JayceMacDonald-j4h 11 ай бұрын
@@anonymouswashingtoncenter3462 Not compared to European parts. BTW who owns Jeep now and where they built? Thats right FIAT owns them and They more Canadian built than American. Not to mention Toyotas are built in america more.
@ringoheywood3255
@ringoheywood3255 4 ай бұрын
@@RB01138odd, the only thing I've replaced on my 2018 jlu is wiper blades and oil.
@emi123nem
@emi123nem 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting an actual off-road face-off
@Zyprus
@Zyprus 4 жыл бұрын
I was also sad, your not alone lol
@flhxri
@flhxri 4 жыл бұрын
Traded my JK for a 4Runner, it's so much better in every way!
@Jman149
@Jman149 3 жыл бұрын
Facts. Smart choice my dude
@XAVargasX0206
@XAVargasX0206 3 ай бұрын
Took me 16 minutes to realize you're never gonna drive them for comparison...
@DocHolliday3841
@DocHolliday3841 4 жыл бұрын
we don't need another overview video, I thought you were going to take them off road. You get a thumbs down for this BS
@birdymeo
@birdymeo 4 жыл бұрын
He gets 2.
@jo-wb6zs
@jo-wb6zs 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would rely on the Toyota before the Jeep.
@bobquattrini1787
@bobquattrini1787 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is Toyota sucks Off-road and has that Weak Pathetic IFS...
@RCGJR_
@RCGJR_ 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Quattrini there’s a video on youtube 4runner, jeep wrangler and i think a landrover, in the end something broke with the jeep whilst filming the video...
@brycehammond2099
@brycehammond2099 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Quattrini throw some decent tires on the Toyota I’d take it all day long lol do some research
@ahighervibe4086
@ahighervibe4086 4 жыл бұрын
2 Door Wranglers are the Shiznit! I've had two... A TJ and a JK and I loved em both! REALLY regret selling the TJ... Will get another someday! And btw to those who always cry about reliability, both my TJ and JK (as well as the '14 KL I had) were basically bulletproof and never let me down! Put that in your Japanese Pipe and smoke it!!!
@ahighervibe4086
@ahighervibe4086 4 жыл бұрын
@A M why is that the go to reply for your generation? Its... seemingly a pointless lashing out that serves no purpose. Certainly there must be more substance hiding SOMEWHERE! (I'm NOT a boomer BTW 🤣)
@Steelviper61
@Steelviper61 4 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. I have owned both. I loved my 16' 4Runner TRDPRO but found it much more limited when going off-road. I now have the 19' Jeep Wrangler JL Rubicon with the 2.0 Turbo engine and I must say the longer that I own it the more I love it. Yeah, It has a few drawbacks for DD but even putting 37" tires on it I still get better MPG than I did with my 4Runner, much better actually. 4Runner=16-18 MPG My Jeep with 37's and a 2.5 inch lift=19.5-22.2 MPG. That's crazy I know but it is a fact. My 4Runner though was much more sporty feeling and handling, def a better DD and the creature comforts where better. Plus there is that Toyota reliability, so far my Jeep has been great, of course, I don't bash it on the rocks like some people do so I feel mine will hopefully treat me better than the others who beat theirs to hell and back. This is my own personal experience of course and is not indicative of everybody else's experience. Good job as always man, Love your work keep it coming!
@henryford2736
@henryford2736 4 жыл бұрын
I rented a 2door Jeep with V6 from TN to TX and back was getting 28mpg with stock hwy tires. Run great.
@Steelviper61
@Steelviper61 4 жыл бұрын
@@henryford2736 Yeah it is crazy. I think the 8-speed transmission has a lot to do with it. I believe if Toyota will upgrade their drive trains they will get much better MPG.
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744 4 жыл бұрын
There both great vehicles can't go wrong with both
@davidcaskey4669
@davidcaskey4669 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 2014 rubicon x unlimited no issues at all
@jasonpreslar6251
@jasonpreslar6251 4 жыл бұрын
These are pointless. This is like comparing an ATV to a pickup truck. One is smaller. Shorter. Every angle is better on the smaller, boxy vehicle for off-roading. Now reliability is a different story. Jeep doesn’t stand a chance in that respect.
@robertt2005
@robertt2005 4 жыл бұрын
When I was looking at getting into a mid sized vehicle, the 4Runner and a four door Jeep were my two choices. I do live in Utah so a Jeep may be the best choice when thinking about places like Moab but I wanted something more for taking “Sunday” drives and being able to go off pavement when I could, get into some backcountry alpine lakes to wet a hook plus the reliability had to come into play. So for the type of off roading I do the 4Runner fit the bill, especially with its $40k price tag for a new ‘19 Off-Road Premium at that time. I did add on a 3” OME lift and I’m running a slightly bigger 32” BFG KO2 tires. I’ve had Tacoma’s and a Jeep Cherokee in the past with open diffs so this 4Runner is a big upgrade with its off road features such as a rear locker and crawl control. I don’t see myself using the crawl control much, if at all but I do like the availability of having a rear locker. I have however found myself using the A-Trac more than locking in the rear locker. I’ve had the 4Runner for about a year and a half and I’m very happy with it!
@functionalfitness1013
@functionalfitness1013 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone who pays $65,000 for a two-door Jeep Rubicon that can only tow 2000 lbs deserves a swift kick in the nuts
@akilghosh
@akilghosh 4 жыл бұрын
Why am I watching reviews on things I can't afford
@bill4536
@bill4536 Жыл бұрын
I've never owned a 4runner so I am biased, but I love my 2020 Rubicon with the 2.0l. Being able to drive down the road or on the trail without the doors and top make it a blast. I took a trip down to Florida and was getting 24.6 MPG. I can consistently get 20 to 22 mpg around the city. No regrets so far
@ST-wi9eq
@ST-wi9eq 4 жыл бұрын
good video but not really an apples to apples comparison. Wrangler is built specifically for off-roading while 4Runner is more of a multi-purpose SUV. More realistic comparo would be Wrangler vs new Defender and 4Runner vs Grand Cherokee.
@fransmith6466
@fransmith6466 4 жыл бұрын
Off road vehicles being reviewed but not going off road? 🤨
@bobcole3852
@bobcole3852 4 жыл бұрын
Durability, reliability, no contest. Put some better tires on 4Runner and call it a day. Do comparison in 2 years after you have spent big bucks on jeep repairs
@NaijaBoiTellEm
@NaijaBoiTellEm 4 жыл бұрын
June 2020 will make it 3 years since I got my 2016 Toyota 4Runner Trail. As of today, I've put 101K miles on the odometer. And as most could imagine, I haven't had one issue yet. I don't think I'm going out on much of a limb by saying that I don't think I'd have the same experience with a Jeep Wrangler. The JLU would be a cool vehicle to own but I know what I'll get out of the 4Runner every single time I hop in the driver's seat.
@NaijaBoiTellEm
@NaijaBoiTellEm 4 жыл бұрын
@The Lovely Lover Lisa Page To each their own. The 4Runner is still made in Japan. That goes a long way in reliability. If the 4Runner was made in the Americas, your point about Toyota becomes more valid. I'm guessing you don't do as much driving as I do. I can understand why the Wrangler would be more appealing. There is no way that I could trust an FCA product more than one from Toyota.
@NaijaBoiTellEm
@NaijaBoiTellEm 4 жыл бұрын
@The Lovely Lover Lisa Page That's a good pair!
@NaijaBoiTellEm
@NaijaBoiTellEm 4 жыл бұрын
@Jared Stevens I'm hoping to get to 300K on my Trail and see where things are at with the frame. Rust will probably be the main reason I get rid of my 4Runner.
@NaijaBoiTellEm
@NaijaBoiTellEm 4 жыл бұрын
@Jared Stevens No doubt. I've heard though that the protective coating can also gunk up the frame and components underneath over time. I just make sure to wash the underbody after every time ride with salt on the roads.
@customimprovement
@customimprovement 4 жыл бұрын
My 2014 Jeep was in the shop every 90 days. Radiator, valves, parking brake, oil pump and even the shocks blew out at 15k. My 12 Jeep was worse, everything broke. My 18 4runner is without issue in 2 years, tows better, is more comfortable and has been significantly better off road while carrying about 400lbs of gear. I added OME springs and Biltstein shocks on both and their 4Runner is better all around.
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744 4 жыл бұрын
only if everyone knew everyone hates on a compression too jeep thinking there all good. The people who own know for sure . thanks
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 4 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for you...it really was that bad??. I have 13 Tacoma...it is nearly bullet proof. Only repairs...rear springs and one bearing/hub. One other problem...my heated seats quit. 4 Runner is mostly the same as my 13 Taco...same power train.
@customimprovement
@customimprovement 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikefoehr235 My 2012 Jeep had almost the exact same list of issues, with the addition of what I believe was a material inside the engine from when it was cast. They repair was weeks. Both Jeep frames experienced excessive frame rust, our Toyotas never have had these type of issues. Poor quality and poor materials. Loved the roof thought!
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 4 жыл бұрын
@@customimprovement Everyone bashes Toyota about frame rot....i guess no product is completely bullet proof. You know I have had my problems too. My wife and I had a 97 Taurus. It needed 2 engines and 3 transmissions and countless other repairs. I also had a 88 SIERRA Pickup...back when GM Had $100 deductibles on warranty. I spent $1400 on $100 deductibles. GM and FORD cured me to Toyota. Much easier on the wallet
@customimprovement
@customimprovement 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikefoehr235 My two siennas lasted 5-7 years with no rust, my Tundra 7 years (and then it exploded with rust). Both Jeeps started scaling after a few months. My 2012 looked like it was 25 years old after 2 years. Just dont think they care about spending the extra to that any metal surfaces and in the Northeast its a disaster.
@aulorenzo1498
@aulorenzo1498 4 жыл бұрын
I sell Toyota’s . Why this guy didn’t use a 4 Door Jeep, I’ll never know. We get a ton of trade in’s, 4 Door jeeps, because my customers say they ride rough. Remember 95% of the driving on paved roads. What idiot is going to take a 55k vehicle “off roading”?? But they have it “just in case”. The wranglers are the ONLY Jeep product that has any resale value. Last thing that can’t be overlooked, the 4Runner is a “J” car, means it’s made in Japan. They’re made better.
@mihailchehlarov2720
@mihailchehlarov2720 4 жыл бұрын
Americans and their sense of style....red dashboard on blue cabin is a win?! Put some large tires, red hooks, name every part with flashy names like "power", "super", "eagle" and "max" . Use velcro as much as you can no matter you need it or not as long as "it looks cool". Wrangler looks stupid everywhere except on the rocks where you going to spend 5% of the time. For every day use and overlanding i'll go with Toyota. Looks right off and on the road, even with the boring 90's interior . And it is far more reliable, i always have that Fiat feeling at the back of my head when i think of Jeep.
@silverioarroyo5968
@silverioarroyo5968 4 жыл бұрын
I actually think the jeep sounded better in this case. Also I'd take the wrangler for its offroad capabilities, and customizability, and looks.
@biggsly5000
@biggsly5000 4 жыл бұрын
Silverio Arroyo the number one issue on the Toyota is it is too difficult and expensive to put bigger tires and the rear end is geared for stock tires any bigger and it falls on its face. The only negative for the Jeep is dependability. The negative for both is price. I am sticking to my 4 wheeler for now.
@stephaniestephanie183
@stephaniestephanie183 4 жыл бұрын
I have a jeep i can do everything with it i love hills love it but remember they are not cheap to fix
@poppyneese1811
@poppyneese1811 4 жыл бұрын
My head says Toyota my heart says JEEP!!!
@fredbrackely
@fredbrackely 4 жыл бұрын
- My head says Toyota, my heart says Jeep, my wallet says Jimny.
@poppyneese1811
@poppyneese1811 4 жыл бұрын
fredbrackely my wallet says used Jimny😬 we hade an old Suzuki Sidekick, manual 4 door, what an awesome simple base vehicle, hated to see Suzuki leave the US
@bonifaciomagdiwang1697
@bonifaciomagdiwang1697 4 жыл бұрын
My foot say Just walk
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure it dosen't say F-150
@nevco8774
@nevco8774 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota 4Runner has technology inherited from 1940-ties when Studebaker was built in the USA and supplied via Canada and Alaska to Soviet Union as lend lease effort of support in WWII.
@johnmunch4738
@johnmunch4738 4 жыл бұрын
I think a more apt comparison would be the 4Runner and the Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee Trailhawks. I'd like to see those comps.
@johnmunch4738
@johnmunch4738 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Losito, I mean my guess would be the 4Runner out performs either. My curiosity lies in that, outside of the body on frame construction, the 4Runner and the Cherokee TH both have: locking rear diffs, select terrain modes, crawl control, hill decent control, v6 engines. In terms of offroad gear there is a lot of similarities.
@turdferguson4602
@turdferguson4602 4 жыл бұрын
My wife has a Cherokee trailhawk and I have a Tacoma. Trailhawk doesn’t even come close and it’s getting traded in for a 4Runner in the near future. What does that tell you?
@PocketManga
@PocketManga 4 жыл бұрын
But jeep cherokee and trailhawks are boyh unibody. 4runner is a body on frame truck not a suv. Big difference. Solid rear axle.
@sirjohnny1974
@sirjohnny1974 4 жыл бұрын
@@PocketManga thought that made it an suv and a Cherokee is a crossover
@GodSonBlessed
@GodSonBlessed 4 жыл бұрын
The grand cherokee trailhawk is still a unibody crossover and not a true body on frame truck like the wrangler or the 4 runner.
@thebadbug7026
@thebadbug7026 4 жыл бұрын
Analog old school 4x4 tech in the Jeep vs a mix of analog and digital in the 4Runner. I wouldn't mind either sitting in my drive way, great video!
@ejesoriginal
@ejesoriginal 4 жыл бұрын
How many times do we have to see this same comparison when we know you will always choose the Jeep?? I say this without even watching this video, by the way.
@leadnsteel1428
@leadnsteel1428 4 жыл бұрын
Especially now that you can get the Jeep with a diesel. But I would just get a used v6 gas 2 door for a weekend toy
@pkingpure100
@pkingpure100 3 жыл бұрын
Depends, for rock crawling I’ll choose the jeep, but for over landing and long off-roading trips I’ll go with the Toyota.
@jimj-acesofttech2657
@jimj-acesofttech2657 4 жыл бұрын
I got a new Toyota 4Runner and a Toyota FJ - Living my dreams except for gas. My FJ is 2007 with 2,50,000 KMS and still runs like BRAND NEW, if it was a Jeep in some JUNKYARD by now. I like new Wranglers infotainment system. Jeep is good for first 50,000 KMS then downhill.
@aaron5222
@aaron5222 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2018 GTI and now a 2020 trd off road with the 360 trail cam. The screen and quality of the GTI display and camera quality was 10 years ahead of my tacoma.
@erickhernandez8463
@erickhernandez8463 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron agreed , I had a 2017 GTI but even though the seats were nice and hugged you nicely, they would be a pain the back (literally) after a while, I miss the quickness and fun to drive setup but definitely would stay with the comfortable and slow moving tundra 🤣
@logicreversed18t
@logicreversed18t 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to add to the complaints, but once I realized there would be no actual road/off-road test, I felt like you really wasted our time. Thumbs down.
@nathankestin1922
@nathankestin1922 4 жыл бұрын
The Wrangler is nicer inside and out, and more off road capable; but it simply won't last like the Toyota. If definitely go for the Toyota if I had to pick between the two. Great video Stephen! 👍
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 4 жыл бұрын
And in comming with the "Toyota will out last" bla bl bla.
@nathankestin1922
@nathankestin1922 4 жыл бұрын
I speak the truth
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 4 жыл бұрын
The Lovely Lover Lisa Page it was an issue for just a select few years with frame. It’s everything going wrong on jeeps every year.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan Kestin KC you spoke the truth you wouldn’t be speaking in conjecture about what you would go with. You would have gone with it
@northerntoyota7584
@northerntoyota7584 4 жыл бұрын
Apply rust check or fluid film and frame rust isn't an issue. Had one for 4 years and it looked like new, and I live on the east coast of Canada
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota using a dependable engine model in the 4Runner that has proven it can reach (ONE Million Miles) with basic maintenance is not showing it's age. Give me a single Jeep in the last 30 years that has reached (ONE Million Miles) with the same engine and transmission as the 4Runner without having to replaced or overhaul either?
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@FOXROKT Three Tacomas with the same engine as the 4Runner have reached ONE million Miles. Just give me a single Jeep that has reached 250k on the same engine and transmission? All I need is one.
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@FOXROKT Jeeps are built for ROCK CRAWLING and 4Runners are built for Rally. This video poses an idiotic comparison. The TRD should have been a dead giveaway. TRD is Toyota's racing division.
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@FOXROKT Wow, you don't know Jackshit about Jeep. I grew up on a Marine Base in the 80s where they used to maintain Military Jeeps (Mules) that were from the 60s and 70s that had the same engines and transmissions with 500k to 700k with NO signs of slowing down. This is why I asked for a Jeep in the LAST 30 years, genius! English must be your 2nd language. Since Jeep has changed hands from AMC to Renault and then to Chrysler, Jeep is nothing more than a shit Mall Crowler. Toyota 4Runner has a lower depreciation than a Jeep, but Jeep has a high resale value. There is no doubt about that. Jeep has a higher resale value because it has a better Warranty due to all of the defect and class-action lawsuits over the years.
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@FOXROKT Post a link, I'd love to see a Jeep made in the last 30 years that has 600k miles with the same engine and transmission that haven't been replaced or overhauled. Like I wrote before, English must be your 2nd language. you're a little short on facts, Spanky. Here's a Vet with a 4Runner with the original Engine and Transmission with over 600k miles. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5WVd6uQo5uKmdE
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@FOXROKT Let me explain the concept of Time to you, Troll. I asked for a Jeep with the same Engine and Transmission in the last 30 years, according to my math 1988 was (32 years ago). I choose my words carefully. Why do you think I set the limit at 30 years, genius? Could it be that I already knew about this Jeep Cherokee? www.allpar.com/old/high-miles/richey.php
@MoneyShot_CM
@MoneyShot_CM 4 жыл бұрын
I recently drove a 4runner because I was thinking about switching. When I drove it I thought something was wrong with it lol, that engine and transmission, ughhh.... Man that thing is slow. I have the 2.0T Rubicon with a lift and 35s, it is so much quicker and fun to drive. It's faster Even with the mods. Both have 270hp, not sure where the 4runners was lol I wonder if everyone taking the 4runner in the comment section has driven both, or either....I did like the interior better on the 4runner though. ... Everyone asking for the off-road comparison should already know that the 4runner doesn't stand a chance. You can't beat front and rear lockers and straight axle off-road
@liveyalife08
@liveyalife08 4 жыл бұрын
Throttle mapping/response can be fixed w Pedal commander or Sprint booster. Otherwise ever 4runner owner knows u have to push the gas peddle half way to three quarters to quickly get into rpm band this husky 4.0liter likes
@CP-kb1du
@CP-kb1du 4 жыл бұрын
you want fast buy a Tuner .....
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
@@CP-kb1du No he wants something that doesn't crawl. So tired of Toyota apologists.
@BorisW150
@BorisW150 4 жыл бұрын
The 4Runner is stuck with 15 year old technology: 5 speed auto trans, antiquated infotainment, etc. Bring the 4Runner into the 21st century and redo this comparison.
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
@David Butler oh ok Einstein or shall I say Toyota apologist. Let's put to practice your sound logic. Why aren't Toyota still building there 1994 line of vechiles? Oh right if they did that they would go out of business. Oh and that Fiat name also makes Ferrari's. You are just another ignorant Toyota sheep.
@SledgeHammer43
@SledgeHammer43 4 жыл бұрын
Soo sorry but the 2 door Jeep Wrangler Rubicon is the most off road ready vehicle. It's short wheel base is a major factor in that.
@SSMJ
@SSMJ 4 жыл бұрын
With 35s or lower the two doors are more capable, with 37s or higher the extra wheelbase on a four doors allows you to tackle taller obstacles while remaining stable. There's a reason that most King of the Hammers buggies look like 4 doors in terms of wheelbase instead of two doors. I agree that stock two doors are more capable.
@mikewright2858
@mikewright2858 4 жыл бұрын
The Jeep is a more purpose-built vehicle ... the 4Runner is ALMOST as good off-road, but can still serve as a daily driver for the masses. Yes, Jeeps are daily driven all day - but having been a passenger multiple times on road trips, they suck.
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 4 жыл бұрын
I agree Mike. My 4Runner is very comfortable on the pavement. Off Road it really shines! Love it.
@koomilawak3252
@koomilawak3252 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s going to bet? In 2021, there will be same video like this pop out on KZbin.
@teop7887
@teop7887 4 жыл бұрын
Judging two off-roading vehicles... By NOT taking them off-road. Like judging two porn stars, without actually banging either one. Ok...
@zdiver1
@zdiver1 4 жыл бұрын
One thing people do not check is auto insurance rates before buying. When I traded my 2017 Tundra CM sr5 4x4 in on a 2019 Tundra Pro CM, my insurance went down $400. a year with all the new safety features . I was expecting it to go up so I was very surprised.
@jaymoar3561
@jaymoar3561 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota all day for their reliability!
@toankim30
@toankim30 3 жыл бұрын
We r talking about off-road not reliability if that’s the case nobody will buy a Ferrari,Lamborghini,bugati idiot if that’s base on reliability
@Jacobk66
@Jacobk66 4 жыл бұрын
What a world we live in! The Wrangler interior is nicer than a 4Runner. That’s crazy!
@80for80
@80for80 4 жыл бұрын
True but Jeep in totality is junk
@alainlefebvre9860
@alainlefebvre9860 4 жыл бұрын
Toyotas consistently rate much higher in reliability than any Jeep. Last top 16 I watched had a bunch of Toyotas on the list including three of the top four. Not one Jeep was listed.
@mountainsteward7776
@mountainsteward7776 4 жыл бұрын
Why didnt he mention the jeep's front end death wobble at highway speeds? He called the yota's transmission dated... it is TRIED AND TRUE. We dont want a 30 speed auto trans that's inevitably going to have more problems. The only thing jeep has on the toyota is the approach and departure angles.
@michaelpalm2210
@michaelpalm2210 4 жыл бұрын
well said Buzz
@mooredw64
@mooredw64 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, the Jeep is nice... until the engine fails, or you have electrical problems, or transmission problems, or well really anything. That 4-runner will give you 200 thousand miles without trouble. You will be lucky to get 50 thousand with the Jeep.
@davidgagne4373
@davidgagne4373 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen the 3.6 V6 fail?
@donaldliverance2597
@donaldliverance2597 4 жыл бұрын
Better get those miles in fast before the frame falls apart I'd rather have a rotten fender than frame jeep all the way
@donaldliverance2597
@donaldliverance2597 4 жыл бұрын
Figure I'll add my jeeps got 330k on the dash with zero big repairs just the upkeep and time to do it
@gt131970
@gt131970 4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldliverance2597 They fixed that problem a long time ago, nice try though.
@702Wolfi
@702Wolfi 4 жыл бұрын
The 4R lasts at least three times longer than the Fiat.
@MrAbword
@MrAbword 4 жыл бұрын
fmcprogrmr people don’t care about reliability anymore. 🥱
@petet-rex5589
@petet-rex5589 4 жыл бұрын
Blake Word That’s because everyone is living on credit and in debt to new things. Then they want the newer thing.
@functionalfitness1013
@functionalfitness1013 4 жыл бұрын
Likely 5 times longer. 😂🤣
@unfairsanic5089
@unfairsanic5089 4 жыл бұрын
@@petet-rex5589 id rather drive a corolla free of debt or credit than driving this jeep or hellcat from a bank
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
It will last longer but by 7 years mist people buy a newer vechile anyways. What good is having a 400,000k 4R that drives like shit off the dealer lot. Then you are saddled with antiquated, cheap plastic interior with an outdated infotainment system , dog slow transmission and fuel hungry engine. Then you are stuck with this for 15 years. What a nightmare.
@marineviper04
@marineviper04 4 жыл бұрын
The Rubicon does have a crawl control, its almost the same exact icon as the 4runner has, then you can adust the speed you want by the shifter
@tgamble803
@tgamble803 4 жыл бұрын
Best for straight off-roading, Jeep. Best for over-landing/long lasting fun, 4runner.
@anonymouswashingtoncenter3462
@anonymouswashingtoncenter3462 2 жыл бұрын
this is quite frankly the most accurate comment thus far
@Bhill-jo2wg
@Bhill-jo2wg 4 жыл бұрын
Jeeps look bad ass but Toyota's Reliability is unsurpassed. 4runner looks good too.
@k.r.v.4219
@k.r.v.4219 4 жыл бұрын
There’s something to say about the legendary reputation Toyota’s have. However, here in N. America, we have Jeep Dealers all over the place and decent warranties if you plan on buying new regularly. But if I were to buy a new Jeep platform myself? I’d buy a Gladiator Sport S, with the Factory Tow Package, where you get the hitch an wiring, brake control, trans an engine oil coolers and most importantly 4:10 gears, combined with the 8 speed automatic will get you the tow ratting all around performance. Then perhaps a Cap over the Bed. With of course a hard top with liner. Plus if you’re able to wait, a nice Diesel Engine Option! But of course you won’t be able to get a front locker or sway bar control, but you still get better articulation than on any IFS setup! Oh yea one more thing, as a Canadian, hows that “free” heath care? Please remember to have fun and stay safe!
@channonspencer1631
@channonspencer1631 4 жыл бұрын
You guys know the 4runner was not ment to go head to head with the Jeep Wrangler. But when it's the only one that can even get close enough to it.
@lambertsaldi1550
@lambertsaldi1550 4 жыл бұрын
Great Review thank you 4 Runner all the way 👍🇺🇸 The Vermonter
@bradleylamoure6960
@bradleylamoure6960 4 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking about this match up last night! This is honestly the best car review I have seen on KZbin. Keep it fellas.
@ricksa2786
@ricksa2786 4 жыл бұрын
The 4runner does not have recovery hooks.Those hooks you described are "shipping tie down hooks". They are welded to the core support and will bend your core support if you attempt to use them as recovery hooks.
@kellyfontes7757
@kellyfontes7757 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I'm considering The unlimited or the 4 runner for a weekend off road vehicle.
@richanderssohn7318
@richanderssohn7318 4 жыл бұрын
where do you think recovery points are bolted onto,,,,,,,,same place
@ricksa2786
@ricksa2786 4 жыл бұрын
@@richanderssohn7318 yes.
@daytona3927
@daytona3927 4 жыл бұрын
Been nice if we would have seen some driving comparison's.
@thedirtydiana863
@thedirtydiana863 4 жыл бұрын
The 4runner do not have recovery tow hooks, those are tie downs for shipping. DO NOT TRY TO RECOVER ON THOSE HOOKS
@ryanthomp
@ryanthomp 4 жыл бұрын
Wheres the reliability factor in the comparison, the fact that the Toyota 4Runner will last for 200,000+ miles with regular oil changes and the Jeep will get to 150,000 and need an engine rebuild.
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to take you seriously when you speak pure ignorance. You have no idea how long the modern, tried and tested Pentastar lasts.
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
See you are a coward. Can't even respond back cause you were proven wrong.
@gggallon
@gggallon 4 жыл бұрын
4 runner isn't concerned about location of recovery hooks because you won't need to recover it.
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
Here comes the brainwashed Toyota apologist.
@NemeanLion-
@NemeanLion- 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t they do a comparison between the same vehicles a few months ago?
@scott8238
@scott8238 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah its called click bate
@joemarshall6619
@joemarshall6619 4 жыл бұрын
Throttle House did
@CP-kb1du
@CP-kb1du 4 жыл бұрын
Running out of dealers to get vehicles from
@inadailycafe2454
@inadailycafe2454 4 жыл бұрын
Removing the top and doors drops the center of gravity significantly, drop down window? with the jeep you get a convertible suv. If you get the jeep make sure to wave back at the other jeeps
@misaeltorres908
@misaeltorres908 4 жыл бұрын
You wanna know which one is the best? Put them on the trail to go up inclines, rock climbing & some mud...
@brentking4538
@brentking4538 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Jeep Rubicon
@skippylippy547
@skippylippy547 4 жыл бұрын
How long have you had your Rubi?
@brentking4538
@brentking4538 4 жыл бұрын
@@skippylippy547 Since May 2019
@tgkg
@tgkg 4 жыл бұрын
Im poor so i prefer the reliable one. Toyota
@terrynichol577
@terrynichol577 4 жыл бұрын
??? Toyota is not for the poor
@kenjkbs
@kenjkbs 4 жыл бұрын
I believe he meant reliability. Jeep’s reliability isn’t as good as Toyota’s
@davidtaylor5811
@davidtaylor5811 4 жыл бұрын
I know four doors are more practical but nothing beats the looks of a two door Wrangler.
@bmthfan1231
@bmthfan1231 Жыл бұрын
Yucky. Looks like a little kids toy car. 4 door all day.
@williamfeldner9356
@williamfeldner9356 4 жыл бұрын
Both will go into the back country, but the toyota will come out.
@donaldliverance2597
@donaldliverance2597 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha and then you woke up...
@isaacmontes7195
@isaacmontes7195 4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldliverance2597 yeah from having a safe trip since the Jeep broke down.
@donaldliverance2597
@donaldliverance2597 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmontes7195 more of the fact the Toyota will never get as far into "the back country" as the jeep will lol
@fbl5856
@fbl5856 4 жыл бұрын
@@donaldliverance2597 😂😂😂
@thomaswhite5928
@thomaswhite5928 2 жыл бұрын
I live in northern Michigan and own both of these vehicles. My Jeep JK has 35 inch tires with a upgraded suspension with 3.5 inch lift. My TRD pro is stock from factory. Love driving the jeep with the top off. Don't do any rock crawling around here. But because of the daily driving to work, the comfort, and the handling in snow (we get 150-170 inches of snow) I can't do without the TRD pro. Serious offloading, yes the jeep modified is more capable. But the amount of time utilizing it's full capability is so infrequent that if you need a reliable offloading daily driver, and you get snow, you will probably enjoy the TRD pro more.
@billp5424
@billp5424 4 жыл бұрын
As an off roader the Jeep is marginally better. As a daily driver the 4 Runner is head and shoulders above. Combine that with Toyota reliability and resale value and the choice is clear.
@SSMJ
@SSMJ 4 жыл бұрын
Depends where you off road lol. None of my four-wheeling buddies would share that opinion and they drive 4runners. They each have areas where they are better, but don't kid yourself when it comes to if the Jeep is better at doing hard offroad obstacles. You should buy based on what you need, but don't downplay the other's strengths.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 4 жыл бұрын
4 door wrangler rides close enough to the 4 runner not to matter. Solid axles are vastly superior off road. The resale value is equal on both and the reliability is similar. Difference is the dated motor and the dinosaur transmission on the 4 runner
@NaijaBoiTellEm
@NaijaBoiTellEm 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrew11 Reliability is similar? Come on haha.
@BMLR1970
@BMLR1970 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just bought my 2023 Trd pro yesterday for 56k in USA and traded my 2018 Trd premium, it’s all good 👌👍
@jackrotter9434
@jackrotter9434 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t beat a two door. Break over angle will really come into play, it’ll crawl over so much more stock vs stock.
@bmthfan1231
@bmthfan1231 Жыл бұрын
2 door yucky
@savagewaifu4694
@savagewaifu4694 4 жыл бұрын
The Jeep is more meant for off-road. It's because it's always on the lift at the auto shop.
@DOC6.7
@DOC6.7 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for kicking the tires! No off-roading let down like straight pipes channel
@Ulghart
@Ulghart 4 жыл бұрын
I'll go with the 4runner as an excellent overall suv. Great on road and off road, way more reliable than anything that Mopar produces. Now, if we are talking about a vehicle to take off road seriously, like doing everything.... Meh, I'll go with a Sherp ATV....
@FLAWLSS1
@FLAWLSS1 3 жыл бұрын
If only the Rubicon was reliable!!! Because the looks alone are amazing and better looking than probably all off-road capable vehicles.
@fenceman53
@fenceman53 4 жыл бұрын
What’s up with these negative comments? Didn’t your mother teach you “If you can’t say something nice just say nothing at all?” For off road Jeep of course . Lockers front and rear cannot be beat . All these “modes” a bit of smoke and mirrors if not backed up by lockers.
@patterguitsit7124
@patterguitsit7124 4 жыл бұрын
As for the cost you know the Jeep dealer will knock off like 15k off the top but Toyota won't budge at all on sticker price.
@ojbarberena7090
@ojbarberena7090 4 жыл бұрын
When you quote the HP and torque ratings please let us know at what RPMs. This is important because torque at 6500 RPMs is not useful while off road. Luv your channel
@briankfs
@briankfs 4 жыл бұрын
If you think a Toyota can be compared to a Jeep, please, buy the Jeep and good luck with that.
@madonisx
@madonisx 4 жыл бұрын
You're a good man! And good comparison. Missed the fuel consumption though. Thanks mate!
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota will probably be more reliable and will be better on road. The Jeep is easier to mod due to the aftermarket and will be better off road. Just depends on your use. I prefer the Jeep, personally.
@jeffreylines1535
@jeffreylines1535 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the sound of the inlines from the older Jeeps
@krasnaludek298
@krasnaludek298 4 жыл бұрын
Jeep is better off-road and it’s not even close. Have owned both & I’ll take the Jeep all-around.
@CP-kb1du
@CP-kb1du 4 жыл бұрын
Jeep is better for parking off the road waiting for a tow ..
@jdenmark1287
@jdenmark1287 4 жыл бұрын
Those aren't recovery hooks on the Toyota, they are tie down hooks for shipping.
@lateatdayV2
@lateatdayV2 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota needs to make a 4 runner that has a V8 gas or diesel with front lock and all the features it already has also a 5 speed with a super crawl mode for heavy pulling and increase its towing capacity, also better to access recovery hooks 2 front 2 back and a easier to access trailer plug and then you couldn’t beat it
@waltermeono5253
@waltermeono5253 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Toyota has to make a 4Runner like a Jeep... lol. Greetings from Costa Rica.
@okcmoparguy724
@okcmoparguy724 4 жыл бұрын
The tupperware interior in the Toyota is ancient and knobs and control switches look like they came off a cheap Jensen stereo.
@cfcasazza
@cfcasazza 4 жыл бұрын
The toyota if you buy, the jeep if you lease
@GStaxxx86
@GStaxxx86 4 жыл бұрын
Based on the first few comments on this, with the question of "where is the offroading?". Ill skip this video immediately.
@kyleburns9439
@kyleburns9439 4 жыл бұрын
Can we please stop comparing off-road trucks with totally different tires on them? Pretty irrelevant if you don’t have tires as the equalizer. Often the first thing done to an off-roader....
@danroggie8265
@danroggie8265 4 жыл бұрын
Chrysler makes a nice looking product. Toyota makes a extremely reliable product. 4 runner wins every time while the jeep is getting fixed in a puddle
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 4 жыл бұрын
The color of the JEEP sure looks good. I just dont think it will outlast a Toyota for quality and reliability. The location for the wiring harness on both are totally stupid. The tow hooks on the 4 Runner are idiotic...like my 13 Taco. I do not understand why Toyota would redesign/rethink the tow hooks. The powertrain of the 4 Runner is bullet proof.
@STICKSHFT
@STICKSHFT 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2 door 4runner... errr I mean fj. And I have a Jeep gladiator. The fj has 35’s and the gladiator has 37’s. I love them both
@maitreytelang2312
@maitreytelang2312 4 жыл бұрын
You could have compared the 4Runner with your (TFL's) Jeep Wrangler.
@nathankestin1922
@nathankestin1922 4 жыл бұрын
They traded that in for their current gladiator
@maitreytelang2312
@maitreytelang2312 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathankestin1922 Oh
@maitreytelang2312
@maitreytelang2312 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathankestin1922 I haven't been seen their episodes in a long time.
@nathankestin1922
@nathankestin1922 4 жыл бұрын
@Maitrey Telang no problem!🙂
@maitreytelang2312
@maitreytelang2312 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathankestin1922 Thanks !
@Japplesnap
@Japplesnap 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep is obviously the better off-road vehicle by far. Front locker, disconnecting sway bar, solid axles, superior ground clearance. This isn't even a fair comparison. Plus, you can get it with a V8 engine!
@rickjcroberts2672
@rickjcroberts2672 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the attention to detail in the specs but it's not an "Off-Road" comparison if you don't take'em off roading. Toyota will kill the Jeep in creature comforts, everyone knows that but Jeep owners don't care so much about those things, and that Rubi will flat out go where that Runner cannot. Toyo's are cool, excellent vehicles. We have two city cars/ suv's but my Jeep is for the trails.
@donaldliverance2597
@donaldliverance2597 4 жыл бұрын
An offroader and a soccer mom SUV lol jeep any day of the week and hell if you don't like it they have the best value retention in the game so sell it and try something else if you want
@Agent.K.
@Agent.K. 4 жыл бұрын
Same comparison with the Fj cruiser or Xterra if you can find one would be highly appreciated.
@wcjeep
@wcjeep 4 жыл бұрын
Looked at then new JL Wrangler. FCA quality control seemed scary. Bought the 4runner.
@MistakenMedia
@MistakenMedia 4 жыл бұрын
4runner recovery points are out of the way because you'll never need to use them unlike jeeps.
@paulj9821
@paulj9821 4 жыл бұрын
What a moronic statement.
@briancampbell5944
@briancampbell5944 4 жыл бұрын
Been there done that...Toyota all day long for reliability, dependability, etc. Have had Jeep Cherokees over the years. Always something to fix. Yes the Jeep is better off road, probably not the best comparison but for me Toyota. Not knocking the new Rubicon but for the long haul not for me.
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