Has Rolex Made A Big Mistake? HANDS ON The New 2020 Submariner

[@commentjedi]

The Submariner paradox: 'No one can get one, But everybody's got one'

[@ArmiIngratta]

Ya man, I have been lucky to have anyone I want, but its only because I buy other watches from my local watch shop. Example: Last week Me: hey watch shop I want a Daytona Watch Shop: Sure thing if you buy something else we can get you one. Me: Ok I want a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Watch shop: Ok great you can pick both up next week 😂 Me: Wating list is a crop of shit So true story and pretty shit in my opinion!!! #justsaying Sorry for using the word "shit" 🙏🏻

[@mannycalavera2335]

People talk about the "exclusivity" of the brand. But in reality it is the most (and perhaps the only) common luxury watch. At least where I live you see them all the time.

[@ArmiIngratta]

@@mannycalavera2335 Yip I totally agree! That's why I don't end up keeping the Rollies for long, I prefer to have watches that are uncommon and only true watch geeks would know about 😉

[@bbrebozo6417]

The big problem is the there is no consistent rule across the different ADs for the “extortion price”. In some places, the price is more that a $15k blancpain.

[@MarcR34]

Everyone has a fake lol that’s he best u can get lol

[@wheelsandwatches]

Rolex are killing watch collecting for the average collector. As soon as they were touted as investments it all went wrong.

[@Dennree99]

Meh, there is nicer stuff to collect anyway. F.P Journe, Greubel Forsey, Roger W Smith, Philippe Dufour etc.

[@UGA.D]

They don't care about the average collector, any more. They are no longer a watch enthusiast's brand. They are a luxury jeweler.

[@mr.thinkpositive9962]

H171001 Those brands you mention are not comparable because they are top of the line and many many times more expensive. That being said Rolex is a beautifully made watch at its price point but nothing really special. When I wear a Journe it’s a totally different experience and feel but I still like Rolex for what it is.

[@kaiserphoenix01]

@@Dennree99 Ok lol, so i wanna buy a FPJ CB or Resonance? oh u cant, same situation with Daytona/Pepsi. Ok I want a Dufour, oh ok, it trades a stupendous premium (worth it ofc). Just saying.

[@thatgladiator3887]

@@Bu-22 yeah, there's so many. I don't wanna just be a rolex hater but I don't like seeing them be so popular. I wish that direction went to omega, Nomos, dornblüth, and other cost effective accessible brands.

[@blackbaygmt_pepsi7284]

A lot of people said “Yuk” about the Hulk when it first came out. A lot of people did like the Kermit, but not so much the Hulk, it was difficult to move. The difference is, EVERYONE loves this new StarBucks - it’s a winner !!!

[@thesilveraura2177]

And that yuk didn't even last two years, as come 2012 and the hulk was the most popular and sought after sports model.

[@jeeperspeepers8323]

Guy walks into a Rolex AD and says: “I want to buy one of the new Submariners.” Rolex AD says: “ Well, you gotta pay now and it won’t be here for ten years.” Guy says: “Morning or afternoon?” AD says: “Why do you care? It’s going to be ten years!” Guy says: “Well, that when my Sky-Dweller’s coming in.”

[@ArmiIngratta]

😂

[@fedor6595]

Nice Ronald Reagan reference 😉

[@johnturnerjr7221]

😄😄

[@MarkMphonoman]

Good one, made me laugh out loud. 👍😜

[@jeeperspeepers8323]

fedor You are correct, sir!

[@salvadorcano4494]

Headline. AD'S won't have it. Chrono 24 will have slews of them at double msrp.

[@ChefPelle]

Anyone caught flipping Rolexes should be executed on site. Just rounded up and shot.

[@doml8959]

more like triple!

[@jackdelia6981]

Davidsw is selling one for $27k....this is a $9500 dollar watch for Christmas sake.

[@Prophet293]

@@ChefPelle u actually believe people are flipping? ADs and grey dealers work hand-in-hand.

[@ChefPelle]

@@Prophet293 Not for the most part as any AD caught selling to a gray dealer or known dealer will be shut down immediately by Rolex.

[@RyTyme]

A Cermit and a Hulk, while wearing a Batman shirt. You might gain superpowers from this. I think the new Sub is intriguing dimension wise. Thanks for doing such a good review!

[@joshsvoss]

Your shots have that same amazing Watchfinders production quality. Looks great! Is that due to certain camera gear, or is it the post processing?

[@SpaghettiKillah]

They have an actual studio with lighting and good cameras. No amount of editing can give this quality...unless you're doin' Hollywood level VFXs

[@WATCHVICE]

Watchfinder actually helped us in selecting the right gear - so a big shout out to them. Still it's a mix of both! The biggest advantage of good gear is you can fix many things in post - but with all gear you are better off if you just film it right :-D Thank you for the nice compliment!

[@joshsvoss]

Kai von WATCHVICE wow that’s awesome that they’re helping out what might be considered a “competitor”.

[@WATCHVICE]

joshsvoss yeah, they’re great!

[@williamumbach592]

Not a mistake, and not a ground breaking release. A slightly updated good quality Sub.

[@arabbit9396]

Better power reserve at least

[@MrNinolevy]

I think you wrote the opposite of what you’re saying at 3:52

[@DorvipeRR]

Noticed that as well and headed to the comments to see if it was mentioned...

[@mijnbuisje]

What she said is correct, the text is incorrect. Although what she forgot to mention is that the lug width changed from 20mm to 21mm.

[@secretsanta9046]

Thanks, CAPTAIN OBVIOUS

[@tianenchen7964]

Haha, i am looking for the same in the comments, so Cermit should be 26.5mm, and Hulk is 27.5mm?

[@tianenchen7964]

​@archie baldwin lollllll cermit is 26.5mm Hulk is 27.5mm Boldwin

[@mikehatfield3561]

“New” for 2020 doesn’t look very new

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Still, people go nuts for nothing

[@TomasLonga]

Fully agree, the whole release is completely pathetic..

[@glenncaukill1320]

It’s a sub they can’t change a classic design by a lot

[@TomasLonga]

@@glenncaukill1320 Oh, don't fix what is not broken. I get that. We are actually talking about possible "NEW" releases and not only change of color and claiming the amazing innovation. It is starting to be as pathetic as "NEW" iPhone releases.

[@glenncaukill1320]

Don’t forget the new movement, wider glidelock clasp and bracelet, thinner lugs . And 1 mm

[@Spook291]

Would it be possible to have videos about watch brands that are not Rolex? I do not understand why channels that say they are watch channels make videos only about Rolex.

[@kerrtattoo230]

Probably because Rolex released new watches 8 days ago and is very much de rigueur, But I hear ya regardless

[@Femiforfun]

BC HUXX is correct. I also understand your quandary. However, think about it from the perspective of a watch content creator. Rolex generates at least 5 times more traffic than any other brand when stated in the title. Once in a while, a channel releases a video that is not about Rolex because they are passionate about watches, but it will never generate as much attention, especially for smaller channels trying to grow. At the end of the day, Rolex gets the clicks.

[@BlackWipeout]

BC HUXX other brands has released new watches like Fortis etc. I think for having more views you need follow the Rolex sheep train ;)

[@BARYOAVI]

The new version is much more delicate because of the design and proportions of the lugs towards the bracelet. Also the green dial of the Hulk was amazing but not for everyone’s taste and after few days I could no longer wear it or look at it as it was too green so there is no mistake here to my opinion. Also I’m glad we have now a modern Kermit. thanks for the great video 😊

[@nomansland120]

Jenni, didn't you put the wrong numbers up at 3:53? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

[@Hamburgerdad]

@Nicks She said it backwards. She put the correct numbers up though.

[@nomansland120]

@@Hamburgerdad She said it backwards and numbers are also placed incorrectly

[@massx999]

Yes I was confused at first too! But it's definitely the other way around. 1mm increase in the bracelet, but more than 2/3mm shaved from the lugs in the new one.

[@Hamburgerdad]

@@massx999 Oh is it? I thought everything was bigger. Thanks for the information!

[@commentjedi]

Also feel as tho the 40.5mm bezel is a typo. It overhangs the 41mm case.

[@Cloxxki]

The lugs themselves look much slimmer and the spacing is upped from 20 to 21mm. Is the new one really wider, outside of lugs?

[@davidofglenbrook4487]

I am an experienced professional deep sea diver and a certified horologist. I can authoritatively confirm that the Rolex Submariner is the finest dive watch ever made. It is indispensable for me on all my commercial deep sea dives. I’m happy to have cleared up any confusion once and for all, in my capacity as a certified horologist and experienced commercial deep sea diver.

[@yatinkheti2427]

Who cares what you have to say.

[@yatinkheti2427]

@Magister Ludi Oh ok. Reason for name calling?

[@klaushaunstrupchristensen7252]

I think the logic behind this new version is that the mega case has come in for criticism over the years for being to clumsy and the integration between lugs and bracelet not ideal. So Rolex have probably decided to slim down the lugs and improve the integration. By doing this the presence on the arm will have been reduced, so to counter this they have upped size slightly in other areas. So with a bit of luck and skill Rolex might have made it more elegant without reducing its presence. To top I up a better movement has been included.should be fine I think.

[@jackyoung7097]

The thicker bracelet whilst making the watch appear more curvaceous actually looks ugly and now I think my 114060 actually looks more elegant in a weird way. CHANGE MY MIND!

[@thegorn]

I disagree, but you’re entitled to your own opinion and there’s NO NEED TO CHANGE IT

[@SuperSsheikh]

hi. Thanks for the video. is there a big price difference between 40 mm and 41 mm?

[@MarcR34]

It won’t really matter if it is a mistake cos it will be on a 10 year waiting list lol

[@w00nyinliu66]

🤣

[@afifakhalid6969]

Any news for upcoming release 2021 Rolex ? Which month probably?

[@briandeguzman8978]

"Bizarre strip club from a parallel universe." That made my day.

[@MrNavedpatel]

Hey Jenni I would really want to know what is ur take on new kermit vs old hulk which looks better 🤔 in terms of case color black green vs all green .... I have not seen new one in person so wanted to know from ur perspective ....

[@mtnslyr]

Missed opportunity, should have worn a Hulk shirt!

[@butapioka]

This one time she wore a batman tshirt but the vid wasnt about the batman gmt at all. I bet you understand the frustration hahaha

[@FounderswithNick]

BIG missed oppo

[@eglantinefrancoisg.9243]

Probably a Starbucks one would’ve been more appropriate 😜

[@totallyradwithjosie3225]

It’s a marvel/DC crossover

[@thesidharta3759]

Hi Jenni Elle, are you sure about the lug to lug size? Many said the lug to lug old vs new submariner are not the same.

[@SlapShotRegatta22]

The movement was a great move. The "41mm" case? We can live with it. But 21mm lugs? Simply unforgivable.

[@eiriknss3727]

After nothing been done to the Sub for over a decage it was long over due and a given. That was one thing you could take for absolute granted. If they didn't get a new movement in there now the Sub would be dead from competition by just about any other luxury watch brand that carry divers with more precise movements and better power reserves, i.e. Omegas Seamaster.

[@SlapShotRegatta22]

@@eiriknss3727 I agree that the Sub needed a refresh but it's a move in the wrong direction. Should've kept the 40mm diameter and the 20mm lugs and only changed the movement and the thin lugs.

[@mkyhou1160]

SlapShotRegatta On the 21mm lug Everest and similar will have custom fit straps that fit (for the few people who take off the awesome oyster bracelet).

[@dannyg6592]

I own a Cermit and it wears so much better than the Hulk. More elegant lugs and hugs the wrist better. Reminds me of my old five digit Sub.

[@haydenbrayton]

Just imagine how much buzz there would be if they actually released a new design...I mean don’t get me wrong it’s a good looking watch. But what did they really do? Discontinued one color, threw the same bezel on a different dial. Woohoo....

[@micaelamagbag6777]

I have a 6inch wrist size, and planning to get this watch but worried about the size of the watch on my wrist, any suggestions ? is the new submariner in black without a date runs smaller ? I know they have the same size which is 41mm but they said with the new design it’s slimmer

[@caseybvpa]

Love your videos!! Finally somebody provided a lug to lug measurement on the new Sub. Thanks so much!

[@RebirthBeyond]

How do the bracelets compare? Tim Mosso said in one video that the older Sub had a better feeling bracelet (solidity of the links).

[@domenicpellegrino4907]

Doesn’t really matter. When Rolex does make a “mistake” it becomes an immediate collectors item. They cash in on EVERYTHING!

[@omg_stoppit]

They don't cash in on gray market sales. The flippers reap that benefit.

[@domenicpellegrino4907]

Arvin Arakelian I agree, crazy isn’t it? Rolex limits release to keep customers from flipping for profit and the real customers are penalized on both ends.

[@damachine3]

@@domenicpellegrino4907 You think they limit release in order to prohibit flippers from making a profit? That isn't it at all. In fact, it's the opposite. If they wanted to limit the ability of flippers to make a profit then they would release more of them and that would instantly take away the profit in the market. Limiting the availability is exactly what creates the ability to make a profit. The reason they do it is to create hype. They do it to create something that is desirable that you can't get. It helps their brand. They protect their brand above everything. They don't really care about the flippers as much as you think. In fact, all of that hype and talk feeds back into the relevance of the brand. They don't care if people are mad at them for limiting supply, they only care that we are talking about them one way or the other. Irrelevance, and indifference, is the death of any brand.

[@ScubaSteveCA]

Actually they lose. The can’t cash in on the grey market and they’re losing out on potential sales because people are purchasing other brands. This action raises the market value of another brand. AD are getting caught selling to “preference buyers” too. The waiting list is bogus. Rolex has an open investigation on their watches immediately showing up on the grey market. Zeroing in on the AD with the most turnover.

[@omg_stoppit]

@@ScubaSteveCA Omega puts out more watched than Rolex and is not as profitable. Rolex works on scarcity which is key for their profits (despite making a million watches per year). They're not worried about losing money. They're the Ferrari of the watch world and no one who wants a Rolex will pick an Omega over a Rolex. It's like saying someone really wants a Ferrari so they'll settle on a Lamborghini. Is the Huracan a good car? Yes. Is the Huracan an F8 Tributo? No. The brand name is everything.

[@PTR2K]

ive heard you can actually hear the rotor in the new submariners. Is this true? I imagine that would be really annoying if its noticeable

[@Nefville]

How is the quality? Because I've seen a lot of quality issues with Rolex lately, with mis-aligned chapter rings and bracelet issues. Thanks.

[@izzynelken8125]

How did you get the new one already?

[@patrick7228]

Rolex can't make a mistake. The name is too strong. They could put Rolex on a plastic watch and it would sell. I never understood the Hulk love. I had one and that pale green bezel is far too light. Not attractive at all in my opinion. I only regret selling it because I missed out on the money. I thought with the new one they would use the opportunity to make it darker like the Oris Hulk which I enjoy more.

[@MegaChiefster]

Agree with you 💯 %

[@Jay-xr3sb]

Can't stand the douchy rep they give

[@tomchung3880]

No matter what you have, it is no good because it is not a Rolex! How long can this strange phenomenon last?

[@Jay-xr3sb]

@@tomchung3880 that's for the fashion conscious brand wearing public.

[@UGA.D]

They said that about GE once upon a time. I hope I live long enough to see Rolex enjoy the same fate.

[@jo1948]

What is the weight difference? I wonder if the new one is lighter because of the slimmer lugs.

[@oorangeo]

Wow, can we maybe not call it the "Cermit"? That's probably the dumbest one yet.

[@arabbit9396]

I’m a big fan of starbucks, but the cermit… ceramic Kermit or even the “new” Kermit I don’t like those names

[@NOTIFACTION]

Will the Kermit price come down now ?

[@Lunalysis]

"Prices are already soaring" ... "that is the whole problem" ... no, that is the whole point.

[@dsq141]

Rolex technically shouldn't be seeing any of the profits unless they're just selling via the grey market which would be a huge scandal

[@UGA.D]

@@dsq141 They're a not-for-profit charity. Look it up.

[@shermanmak]

Just buy a gold bar😁. It is just as boring in look and that's going up too.

[@Anonymouslyme1]

UGA.D may I correct you, they are all about profit. A charity yes, but one that doesn’t donate much to charitable causes. The profits are reinvested into the business/charity to make Rolex financially stronger. I imagine it’s also a tax dodge.

[@UGA.D]

@@Anonymouslyme1 I think you just supported, rather than corrected, me. But you are correct in how they operate.

[@batdroid2705]

What size wrist was wearing the watch?

[@arqjavierobregon]

The best thing of all of this is? Guess what? My Hulk went through the roof!!!

[@JCDofNYC]

HULK SMASH!!! 😐

[@borko4380]

If you leep it, practically doesnt matter how the prices develop

[@patrickklein223]

1:06 are that scratches on an ceramic bezel?

[@chi-towncalifornia5916]

While angriest Submariner purists will remain implacable, I reckon your measurement findings extinguished a few torches in this community, Jenni. Nicely done!

[@user-xh5pi2nf9q]

So is the hulk being discontinued?

[@stebesplace]

Personally, I'm calling it the STARBUCKS.

[@arabbit9396]

Yeah!

[@bkzlatan]

Where did u find the watch to do the review ?

[@marcgirard7551]

Great fact-based review here, Jenni! I think Rolex has made a distinction without a difference here with the "new" Submariner. To me, I think it's a bit sad that they are producing fewer dials and therefore saving money there but then moving prices higher. Feels like a cheap move to extract more dollars from customers rather than to put any real effort into the art of watchmaking and generating excitement that way. I'd take an Omega over these any day of the week and twice on Sunday. They look better, fit better, are made better.

[@thatotherguy4245]

Seems like Rolex has been run by investors instead of watchmakers for a long time. As you point out about Omega, better watches for cheaper prices are readily available, so there's no reason to obsess over this...if someone thinks spending 10+k on this instead of any number of better watches, then I feel sorry for them.

[@popi2286]

The Submariner has being my dream watch and of course unioptainable for so long that I went for the Seamaster 300 M. And today for the same amount of money that is a Rolex you walk into and IWC AD and you get out with a very nice watch in your wrist. This is only my opinion, what you guys thinks, cheers

[@tomnewham1269]

thatotherguy I’m curious, why are Omega watches better than Rolex?

[@thatotherguy4245]

@@tomnewham1269 For less than the price of a submariner you can have a far superior (performance wise) seamaster. The whole brand recognition, resale, prestige, etc factors muddy the waters, but from a purely technical standpoint, the Seamaster is superior.

[@tomnewham1269]

thatotherguy why is Omega technically superior?

[@yaseralamir1143]

Hello , Can you advice me in which websites or Apps can I find rolex submariner watches?

[@yaseralamir1143]

Good price

[@totallyradwithjosie3225]

If this isn’t nicknamed, the “shrek” for the memes then I’m gonna lose it.🤨

[@KennethWoodruff]

At 3:50, the Lug width text on screen is backwards

[@shermanmak]

So sad, Rolex is now officially the most "gutless" and boring watch brand around. New models? Basically a marketing play and colours.

[@UGA.D]

If Rolex began as Rolex is now... There wouldn't BE a Rolex now.

[@shermanmak]

@@UGA.D So true. It has such a strong brand that it can easily afford to try some new innovations and creativity. Which I believe would then drive the whole industry forward faster.

[@allan2098]

BUT, that's exactly why they are so popular. Simply because they have NOT changed anything radically in their products. A 1970 Datejust is basically, visually, a small 2020 model. The Sub has remained visually unchanged for its long duration. The new OP colours (OK, I'm with you on this one.) are radical for the brand but remember the popularity of coloured dials in the 70's, also realise that this will be BIG in the Asian market. Gutless and boring? Maybe so. Marketing play? They don't care about that. They are all about tradition and confidence in their brand.

[@UGA.D]

@@allan2098 Not changing a design does not make something popular. They're popular because so many people want to have something that few others can get so they can feel superior to other people. Go back and listen to this week's HODINKEE Radio (Episode 103). Ben Clymer, himself, says (at 5 min 47 sec) that you buy a Rolex so you can tell your friends "I got this and you didn't". That is why so many "secure" people feel like the majority of Rolex owners are "condescending jerks". We're not jealous of you... We're LAUGHING at you.

[@ams914]

@@allan2098 You are one of the very few that gets it. Spot on.

[@vrudy6]

Jenni, u forgot to mention a very important detail. The lug to lug width now fits a 21 mm bracelet. I think it looks better, it tapers more. Looks sleeker!

[@Giovan_Nino]

Am I right in saying the handset was also changed, beefed-up..The hour hand looks ever so slightly fatter? Great review! And no you can’t say look but don’t touch..ha ha..well done..🤣

[@teded7]

I think this model is a good idea for somebody who always wanted a kermit but did not have a chance to buy it. With updated case and ceramic, it is a great combination to have new sturdy watch without spending ton of money for a mint kermit.

[@layneaic2076]

i'll go for Omega Seamaster" No Time to Die" 007 James Bond

[@angelos6817]

It should be "I have no time to die waiting for a Rolex so I'm buying an Omega Seamaster instead".

[@My_Work_Here_is_Done..]

Don Johnson if that’s what you’re into! It’s cool when they increase in value, but that is far from my main criteria when buying a new watch.

[@UGA.D]

@@BrendanBoswell Viewing watches as investments is very problematic. Even Rolex's fortune will eventually change.

[@layneaic2076]

@@BrendanBoswell really sir? My bosses wears Rolex.. and i got an old classic seiko dive watch skx 007 😅. I chose Omega for style but in terms of watch value no arguements the Rolex for sure.

[@fortnajt]

@@BrendanBoswell most of the people who like the watch they dont care about resale value

[@flyinb45]

The lug width looks wider than 20mm and size increase would make sense considering the clasp is wider and the taper looks similar.

[@1517the_year]

The old green on the original Kermit wasn’t great. I like the new tone. I’m not gonna complain about sizing though, it’s just too big for me personally.

[@1517the_year]

A. B. I literally said I wasn’t complaining... the old sub was too big for me as well.

[@UGA.D]

@@1517the_year Actually, you *literally* said, "I’m not gonna complain..." No use being literal if you're not going to be literal.

[@1517the_year]

DeanUGA I’m being honest here, are you dumb? Where did I complain? I just stated the watch was too big. That’s not a complaint, it’s a statement. I can’t help with your understanding of the word literal.

[@иваниванов-к7л6и]

Bravo, Jenni! Very much my thoughts! I’m happy to get new Hulk just before new releases...

[@jamesge8087]

I don't get the fuss, they have been updating lugs and colors from day one, this one will sell just as well regardless of the alterations to base Sub, no one gave a flying fajita about the Kermit back in the days, and neither did anyone about the Hulk (quoting my AD "you couldn't even give them away for free"), only now that we are at the peak of watch hype a new release gets this many opinions that result in the same conclusion people will buy it gotta say, I am already looking forward to seeing this fad/hype culture cease, even if we are likely still a few yrs away from that to be the case

[@jackyoung7097]

Marketing Club Hult 2014 agreed, buy the black original, it’s a classic and will stand the test of time

[@ChefPelle]

Noobs in the Rolex game can't fathom that just a few years ago a used Sub/Pepsi/SD43 was CONSIDERABLY cheaper than a new one and that you could walk into any major city AD and buy one of the shelf. Then the chinese started making money. Must have Rorex...

[@Newtypenewtype]

@@ChefPelle well that's weirdly racist

[@jamesge8087]

@@ChefPelle agreed, I for the first time bought one at MSRP at my AD this yr, whereas before, across Europe they'd basically offer you a discount to the equivalent of whatever the VAT was I was told the same thing from several boutiques and ADs, around 16/17 mainland Chinese gobbled up whatever they could get, and since production was never increased this has created an ongoing supply issue, at least the automotive sector has understood this early on and opened production in China Imagine 8y lists for a C Class haha

[@ChefPelle]

@@Newtypenewtype It's not racist - it's the truth.

[@bluein2red423]

What is the lug width please?

[@UGA.D]

Rolex's modern, stupid games take a sh!t on their legacy as far as I'm concerned. There's pre- quartz "crisis" Rolex, which commands respect, and post quartz "crisis" Rolex, which makes me feel sad for all the people still drinking the kool-aid and shelling out $6K MSRP for a simple 3-hand watch in steel.

[@Jay-xr3sb]

12k if you actually want one

[@UGA.D]

@@Jay-xr3sb Hear, hear.

[@TheShotenZenjin]

Rolex prices are something akin to Bitcoin prices in that the real value of the product does not have much to do with its selling price.

[@NWLegacyChannel]

Thats why you buy Pagani/San Martin homages, or even better if you want a real watch, TUDOR, OMEGA. Rolex became normie with all the rap songs recently, so now all the millennial shithead smooth brains are spending their entire net-worth to be cool.

[@MrVoayer]

Valuable and ver helpful video dispelling doubts, fears and suspicions ! Mistake? Rolex is a brand of such status and fame and such devoted followers that even their mistakes work in their favour ! Once again: important and valuable video !!!

[@toothy3637]

The new bracelet needed to stay at 20mm, it looks huge at the flanks

[@stuartclubb4302]

Do all the watches have a mark at 9 on the case, or is it just the press watches?

[@weeks55]

All I wanted was slimmer lugs, so I'm happy! Can't wait to buy a San Martin with slimmer lugs soon.

[@UGA.D]

HA HA HA!!!!

[@benco2e]

Finally someone doing a real review with measurements! Thanks for the good review 👍

[@samd3843]

There was a time when those who had a Sub would wear it everywhere, even swim with it. I did and still do. Nowadays people buy them and keep them in the safe. Come on! “Start living or start dying”

[@eiriknss3727]

Couldn't agree more. What a bunch of sad people. It's not even 10k. Live your life a little and don't worry so much about a few dollars. Resale value is not any criteria of mine when purchasing a watch, as I intend to keep them forever. "Investing" or making a quick buck in watches is a waste of time and time consuming. There are literally thousands of other and much easier ways - than to suck off corrupt ADs and play their silly games - and make all the money you ever need and much more and buy watches like AP, PP, VC, BP and other brands that makes Rolex' watches look liky shiny turds.

[@bani_niba]

The metal bracelet seems to be a little wider. 21mm lug width? Ugh.....

[@benwong1111]

Monochrome watch listed the bracelet as 21mm 😢

[@CarrotChronicles]

All this hype for something that’s a simple color swap while I sit here content with the red-headed stepchild, the Rolex Milgauss

[@magicman9321]

Who buys a Milgauss 😂

[@Mac_U]

@@magicman9321 people who want to have not eye catching Rolex !!!

[@magicman9321]

Mac U I guess

[@arkachatterjee5179]

Love my Milgauss. And my SS Sky Dweller.

[@UGA.D]

@@Mac_U Huh!!?? It's got a green sapphire crystal and an orange lightning seconds hand for Chrissake!

[@joshuakeeling1]

So will ADs have any Hulks left?

[@Bounce625]

Rolex are now a fashion brand because they are so mainstream. Sick of hearing the word Rolex.. Its making my hobby boring.

[@Anonymouslyme1]

Neil bingham status symbol not a fashion brand

[@StephenTomko]

Enjoying my Davosa ref 16155505 instead. No need to play the game. BTW, how long have you been prepping "behind closed casebacks"?

[@jims4539]

21mm lug width???

[@pasquale78]

I was sondering the same thing.

[@diegoreyes5019]

Yes it got increased i believe

[@19NJS71]

Still not understanding what the mistake was.. to update the sub? To change the color scheme? this new sub is perfect

[@arghjayem]

I’d rather buy a Tudor Pelagos than a Rolex Submariner....... that said I do own a 16600 seadweller but that’s only because I couldn’t stand the hype and over inflation surrounding the standard Subs, let alone that of the likes of the Hulks and Kermits. Prices are stupid for these watches now and Rolex doesn’t seem to care about the grey market and in fact are part of the problem in the grey market due to the way the ADs treat customers. I love Rolex and my Rolex watches, but I will stick to the older models.

[@UGA.D]

Tudor is what Rolex was.

[@paulhelmuth6012]

I personally much prefer the newer case. Because it is back in the direction of the pre-maxi case. I never liked the maxi cases. I think they could have gone even slimmer with the lugs, but what they did is certainly a big improvement. Somewhat strangely because it’s more like a previous version. Which had the perfect design proportions. As far as the “Kermit” goes, I guess it’s half-a-Hulk. I don’t think it’s a great color combo. I do like the all-green of the Hulk. But still hate the maxi-case.

[@gajoaleatorio]

cartier tank? we need that wrist check Jenni! :D

[@edwinrsuarez]

I got my 41mm Sub a couple of weeks ago. The main difference on my wrist compared to the 40mm, besides the lug size, is the weight. I’m finding myself taking the watch off at the middle of the day to give my wrist a break.

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

You should probably get down the gym more if wearing a watch wears you out

[@akashdeepjhariya3035]

Why you're using "cermit" when it's "kermit"?

[@tomsteele15]

I think to distinguish it from the OG Kermit with an aluminium bezel, this is now the Ceramic Kermit, aka Cermit!

[@tman152]

Ceramic bezel + Kermit = Cermit. It sounds terrible, and I cringed eveytime she said it. such a stupid nickname.

[@tn_onyoutube8436]

Cermit is all across the watch channels as the nickname for the new Kermit. Cer as in Ceramic bezel. Do try to keep up guys!

[@thegorn]

Stupid name. It’s made out of 904L stainless steel not ceramic. Hublot, Rado and Omega make full ceramic watches. The fact that the bezel is ceramic is insignificant and not worth the bastardisation of the already-stupid name. Now it’s stupid squared.

[@jtwu8931]

The new lugs and 41 mm makes it a better wearing on the wrist. The Omega SMP, however, went the wrong direction.

[@hamzehomari]

Green Lantern!! 🙌 🔥

[@posanias]

Hi. Great video. But there are other details which changed : The hands are bigger, the dial too, and the date fits now very well because of this little dial increase.

[@damachine3]

6:24 Rolex doesn't even need the people who are still with them since most of those who swore off the brand will instantly turn around and buy one if they get the chance. It's like the beautiful girl you swore off but then she's willing to go out with you and you're at her doorstep in 5 minutes flat. ;)

[@damachine3]

@archie baldwin That's what I'm saying

[@damachine3]

@archie baldwin You're an extremely ignorant person and you wish that was true. It says so much about you. You assume so much about me and you don't know me...but that's your problem, not mine. Enjoy your pathetic liphe.

[@averytieh522]

Hi Jenni, are you able to make a video about Yacht Master 42, thank you in advance (:

[@TopSecretVid]

Leftover green bezels and a much cheaper piano black dial and bigger price...hmmm..yeah.

[@Brunopanuno]

Totally agree! Rolex cutting cost and raising the prices, people losing their asses for those watches. Same for the OP 41, they moved from 39 to 41, so they can use the same case as in the DJ, again cutting cost. People: "ohh yeah OP41 im losing my ass for one, lets post it on IG" hahahah.

[@pedrosaenz2800]

Good video thank You. The only information not given is lug to lug distance? Used to be 20mm.😎

[@cpm8889]

Jenni, the real “BatWoman”!!!

[@funtasy1]

Guy in working clothes walks into a Rolex AD and asks to buy a sports watch, snooty sales assistant replies “sorry there’s a waiting list son” guy pulls out a gun and says “ i want one now”!, sales assistant “how mmmmany would you like sssssir”

[@Posavac90]

Yeah No, this is bad. Glad I got myself a Tudor Black Bay 58

[@kl3taiwan]

I’m going to be honest, that’s a Great Choice 💯❤️ Tudor might start climbing up to make a huge market shock.

[@watchfan6180]

How did you get the new model watch so quick??? Your wearing it??? It is as if Rolex admitted they made a mistake with the super case

[@beetleything1864]

1mm and half a mm - what a joke - everybody getting their knickers in a knot about .5mm - NOBODY will notice what you are wearing.....only WIS notice...

[@jwdepriest]

If the bezel isn’t a new/darker green, then I don’t like it near as much. The pictures in the catalogue look better. If it’s the same bezel, I’d much prefer the Hulk dial.

[@MichaelBath]

Please don’t start calling it a ‘Cermit’.

[@mikecassidy1623]

It’s double stoopid

[@UGA.D]

Too late... hearing it everywhere. Groupthink... but from idiot minds.

[@MichaelBath]

@@UGA.D Great 🤯

[@MichaelBath]

@@mikecassidy1623 👍

[@UGA.D]

@@MichaelBath Right? I'm gonna call it the "Lizard Nipple" since we're making up stupid sh!t.

[@rock5935]

what year is the hulk

[@dfk5182]

Increased price with a cheaper dial And silly guys chase after

[@wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160]

Thanks for the great video Jenni. It would be interesting to compare the the actual Kermit. It’s the cerachrom version after all. This is possibly the version that should have actually preceded the hulk?...

[@fragu123]

03:44 is the other way around..... small mistake in the video, otherwise well done!

[@WatchEric]

Great Review!! Enjoy your content.

[@markplayford5836]

Ooh look...the Emperor’s got new clothes 🙄

[@kjakan79]

Are the only difference the green insert on the new kermit? So one can buy a new black sub date and then just change the insert and have a kermit? So 20.000 usd for the insert then, new kermit for sale now on chrono 24 for 29000 usd

[@mickeylickey123]

The movement, size, lug width have been changed. Did you watch the video?

[@Vargadumi]

You can not purchase that bezel only if you prove you damaged it. They protect their product this way. I could not purchase two springbars to interchange my wifes bracelet with my gmt’s, so i had to bring the DJ and its bracelet separated (like i lost them) and they gave me a pair free of charge...

[@kjakan79]

Dénes Varga i know that. But on the original kermit the dial was different with bigger plots, and the hands were bigger than the black sub date, then you could not just change the insert to build a kermit. So I would think that there was more changes between the new kermit and the black subs.

[@Vargadumi]

kjakan I see. They should have made it a no date with green dial and bezel!👊🏻