Hey all, hope you enjoyed! This is episode 5 of Factions Compared week, see the other videos here: kzbin.info/aero/PLPcRSJDFb1lmo6-nozrjDOimQeu1DASih
@aaronkellyuk6 жыл бұрын
EckhartsLadder Could you do Empires compared?
@dylanwhite55756 жыл бұрын
EckhartsLadder hey can you do a top 5 most powerful mini Lego Star destroyers
@Funkography6 жыл бұрын
And Vitiate’s face and body never succumbed to dark side degradation of the user unlike Sidious, Malgus, Snoke, etc.
@bobbyweinberg75436 жыл бұрын
and now, may the fourth be with you ;)
@sithlord9066 жыл бұрын
EckhartsLadder can you do a vs battle with Palpatine's galactic empire vs The Sith emperor Ethetnal empire.
@ChaosLORDish6 жыл бұрын
"My ascendance is inevitable. A day, a year, a millennium--it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars." - Vitiate, Dark Lord of the Sith, Sith Emperor, Immortal Emperor, Dragon of Zakuul.
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
Dickhead. Ruiner of Source Material. Shitty Palpatine rip-off. Thankfully, non-canon. Hopefully, stays that way.
@somerandomperson74315 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 His story is amazing ngl
@Kalenz12344 жыл бұрын
He calls it patience. I call it being manipulated by Revan into inactivity ;)
@kazukid80274 жыл бұрын
Was that last one made up?
@kazukid80274 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 bruh chill have you played swtor I haven’t met a person who didn’t like him
@darthvader45946 жыл бұрын
I'm going with the sith emperor,that dude just built TWO empires in his life,not to mention he contantly gave a middle finger to death.
@robertnelson95996 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but I wonder how he would fair in a one-on-one with Palpatine?
@TOXSGhost6 жыл бұрын
Robert Nelson tbf they are pretty much on par with each other with the slight edge to sidous, neither would draw light sabers cause both hate it, it probably just depend on the variables at play during their fight
@jakealter55046 жыл бұрын
The Ghost One x I wouldn’t say that they’re on par since palpatine was confirmed the most powerful sith to have ever lived both in legends and cannon
@TOXSGhost6 жыл бұрын
Jake Alter yeah but that don't mean that that vitate can't be on Sidiouses level, that only means that palps in stronger but that don't mean massively.
@thetrolton24646 жыл бұрын
sidious in the movies couldn't kill Luke when he tried, and he had about 7-8 seconds to do it before Vader stopped him, while the sith emperor killed 5 Jedi Masters without paying them any attention. ALSO Luke was only on the level of a Jedi knight at this time...
@jshaw37936 жыл бұрын
staying in power Vitiate 1,500 years Palpatine 20 years Krayt 7 years Sadow not even a year lol
@solaryx63695 жыл бұрын
It's not the same power. The Second Sith Empire + The Eternal Empire didn't habe the superficie of the Galactic Empire for example
@justinlacek14814 жыл бұрын
You're comparing how long vitiate was in control of his own empire to how long sidious and Krayt were in control of the entire galaxy
@ashique59423 жыл бұрын
@@justinlacek1481 all sith want to rule the galaxy but vitiate want to destroy the entire galaxy and consume their life force to basically to become a god mate
@paulwilliams20243 жыл бұрын
Stupid comment Palpatine control the whole galaxy Vitiate never did that
@spencercarruth97063 жыл бұрын
@@paulwilliams2024 The Eternal Empire was way ahead of the Galactic Empire, for a number of reasons. First off, the Eternal Fleet is far greater than anything the Imperial Navy has, especially when combined with the Gravestone. Secondly, the Eternal Empire did in fact control the entire galaxy, at least for a time. Thirdly, total control is not the be all end all. Part of the reason why the Galactic Empire crumbled relatively quickly is due to the almost impossible task of securing things beyond your initial borders….just ask the Roman Empire how that went. The military tribute route used by Arcann was actually a pretty decent system, and something the Persian Empire used to great effect.
@vahlen52816 жыл бұрын
Vitiate once killed his Dark Council, 12 of the most powerful Sith Lords at that time, without breaking a sweat or having to move one step. He subjugated Revan, one of the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the entire SW history, two times without having too much trouble. He rendered two planets completely lifeless to the point where not even the Force itself remained. He built two massive and powerful empires and governed them simultaneously through his host bodies. Speaking of them, he could literally be at dozens of places at the same time by inhabiting the bodies of other people. He survived at least three corporal deaths in SWTOR Last and not least, he was THE Sith who came as close to achieving immortality as one can come without actually being immortal. While I like Palpatine, for me, he will always remain the Sith who got thrown down a reactor shaft by a one-handed, asthmatic and crippled old man in a black leather suit. His ability to scheme and manipulate puts everybody to shame, but his fighting resumee is somewhat dodgy in some cases. Also, we know literally nothing about Palpatine´s strategic and tactical capabilities (aside from his battle meditation), while Vitiate coordinated the first war against the Republic more or less on his own, which resulted in the Treaty of Coruscant that greatly benefitted the Sith Empire. So while both canon and legends claim that Sidious is the most powerful Sith of all time (albeit the term "powerful" is somewhat vague and open to interpretation), I personally like to believe that Vitiate is at least his equal, if not even more "powerful" in certain aspects.
@yomumma78036 жыл бұрын
V I T I A T E I S K I N G
@liamwhatever71466 жыл бұрын
Vahlen Vitiate did a lot more evil stuff too, which makes him best sith in my view.
@ATunnel15 жыл бұрын
Vitiate is a trash Sith and too damn overrated. He relied on rituals and magic. He is one of the shittiest characters in EU.
@ATunnel15 жыл бұрын
Mark doesn't change the fact that he is a weakling.
@jedibattlemasterkos5 жыл бұрын
@@ATunnel1 Sidious didn't need stupid rituals to be as powerful as he was. The man didnt need rituals to life wipe planets.
@sacredbeastzenon5 жыл бұрын
Darth Krayt is so underrated. By the way, he healed himself of the Vong infection. The fact that he fought alongside Grandmaster Luke against Abeloth should matter greatly.
@aamirrazak34675 жыл бұрын
sacredbeastzenon tbh I thought it was cool how he teamed up w Luke to defeat Abeloth
@Marcusjnmc5 жыл бұрын
Krayt at the very end certainly stepped up, but he was never really on the level of Vitiate or Sidious, the force was simply far too influenced by the ghosts of Skywalkers during his time so that he just couldn't grasp hold of as much raw power in the force to pin under his influence as Sidous or Vitiate managed, & so his peak of power is less than their's even with an arguably comparable base of power to build up from.
@williamryder84974 жыл бұрын
sacredbeastzenon I still wouldn't put him above Sidious or Vitiate.
@sacredbeastzenon4 жыл бұрын
@@williamryder8497 Well, I would put Krayt about Sidious and Vitiate. Can we at least agree that Grandmaster Luke Skywalker stomps Sidious and Vitiate?
@bbc56344 жыл бұрын
sacredbeastzenon agreed. Grandmaster Luke Skywalker was the most powerful force wielder to ever live Jedi and sith alike.
@schmidtyfilms95926 жыл бұрын
Lmao loved the thing with the dog at the end
@jesusislord2296 жыл бұрын
Mr. Schmidty I wish I had a channel he needs to keep that
@jamesdavis90365 жыл бұрын
What's the song? I really like it
@AlexTheDadGamer5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdavis9036 Home - Resonance
@GodOfPlague4 жыл бұрын
Yeah musical doggo is the best.
@gigipeedee4 жыл бұрын
so this is where it began
@MagicSpud6 жыл бұрын
Love the new background with the capital ships.
@suddenshotty6 жыл бұрын
The ships go past a bit fast in my opinion, apart from that I think its great!
@brockgundich6 жыл бұрын
This definitely has to go to Tenebrae/ vitate also love your recent changes with the sound wave bars and new background
@brockgundich6 жыл бұрын
jlattimore 674 no he is a bit op, but in legends most characters were op tbh
@lilcolgatevert37156 жыл бұрын
@jlattimore 674 Not really, Darth Sidious is easily beyond him. Darth Plagueis, Darth Krayt (legacy), Darth Malak, Knightfall Vader*, Darth Caedus were definitely on his level with some likely being his superior [KF].
@lilcolgatevert37156 жыл бұрын
Well until he became Valkorion, then he's above them and close to Sidious's level by Revenge of the Sith/ANH
@mudamudaok40255 жыл бұрын
Lil Colgate Vert valkorion fucked 12 sith without movement
@LokiTheClever5 жыл бұрын
Vitate kind of got nerfed by the plot they made him too unbeatable kind of similar to like if Exar Kun managed to perform the ritual he was planning without a hitch.
@mateuszborkowski226 жыл бұрын
The ships going in and out are weirdly hypnotizing. I like them
@kazukid80274 жыл бұрын
Krayt: durable, good knowledge, and skillful with the lightsaber, kinda conquered the galaxy Palpatine: very powerful, great knowledge, cunning, conquered the galaxy, manipulating, Naga sadow: very basic he was one of the first sith but keep in mind they just don’t have the same knowledge for the future sith but still strong. Valkorian: basically immortal, made 2 extremely successful empires, very powerful, extensive knowledge from 1500 years of life, could be in multiple places at once, and just ruthless.
@commandercody74836 жыл бұрын
10:56 best scene of the video :)
@No-zl3ui6 жыл бұрын
commandercody 7 the time has come Execute order 66
@speedweed96586 жыл бұрын
That ending... MAGNIFICENT
@chad90155 жыл бұрын
*MALIFICENT
@darthsonic41355 жыл бұрын
Doggo: FATHER, PLEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!
@sc_art54086 жыл бұрын
Darth Binks?
@amandag.61866 жыл бұрын
Star Commander heck no
@beebeenyneeee76926 жыл бұрын
He would take on all these sith as if they were mosquitos
@amandag.61866 жыл бұрын
Star Commander whoever thought of Darth jar jar in the first place deserved to be on star killer base
@amandag.61866 жыл бұрын
Some guy: but starkiller base exploded and became a star. Me: exactly
@ibrahimjamadar6 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@rapturus70986 жыл бұрын
EckhartsLadder is the Best Sith Lord. :D Too bad no factions has him
@a.morphous666 жыл бұрын
He is independent. He needs no faction to take over the galaxy.
@timbartschwolfman6 жыл бұрын
Bookhead714 That's true Eckharts Ladder is the best
@darthgus6 жыл бұрын
Dread Master Raptus What do you mean, "no factions"? His faction is the Earth Empire! lol
@ChaoticBattleCamel6 жыл бұрын
I pledge my loyalty to Eckhart’s faction.
@Linki8uu4 жыл бұрын
I think of him as more of a grey Jedi one that uses light and dark side powers but still has good morals
@ValWasTakenWasTaken6 жыл бұрын
The ending is already 66/10 but that doge part just made it even better
@TheFoxfires6 жыл бұрын
A good reveal for The Last Jedi could've been Snoke as Emperor Vitiate. That would explain all the references to the Unknown Regions in the new canon.
@blackshogun2726 жыл бұрын
They could've revealed that what was happening in The Sequel Trilogy was the doing of a returned Valkorian. Everything we've seen so far is the machinations of Valkorian toying with the mind of Cade Skywalker in a coma! Dude, the fact that Valkorian just decided to wait eons just to rise again and strike at the most powerful being in the Star Wars Legacy timeline, a Skywalker 😎
@Saiaxs5 жыл бұрын
The Unknown Regions isn’t the same area as Wild Space(where the Eternal Empire was based)
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
Not content ruining just ONE Star Wars franchise, Vitiate would then go on to ruin another one, though not without competition.
@aamirrazak34675 жыл бұрын
BlackShogun 27 whoa dope idea it would potentially make legacy canon which would be epic to see, Cade Skywalker and the Imperial knights are awesome
@aamirrazak34675 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great idea but ofc I doubt Disney would think of it or want to do it
@CadeVonWilkens31176 жыл бұрын
I just gotta say, Valkorian's outfit is one of the best outfit's I've ever seen.
@connorgolden46 жыл бұрын
These last few videos have been some of your best!
@princekrazie6 жыл бұрын
Darth Crate, lord of packages.
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
Vitiate can add the name Darth Loot, Lord of Boxes once EA decides to patch them into SWTOR.
@CHANN3L_NAME4 жыл бұрын
Darth Crait Sith planet of salt
@wut59104 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find, I'm amazing
@bhagyasankar20703 жыл бұрын
amazon??darth bezos?
@FatalFist5 жыл бұрын
I liked Emperor Vitiate, THE Emperor, because of his patience. His ability to control his composure and saw both sides of the conflict as annoying at best. I think if it came down to it, his control over the force was so much greater than Sidious.
@corinnebowyer67864 жыл бұрын
he was many centuries old & unlike palpatine was able to control 2 empires at the same time. even though he had 2 grown kids with personalities of children. plus both of vitiates empires lasted a long time. niether of palpatines empires 1 after the other ever survived a long time & both got defeated by luke.
@elassit2174 жыл бұрын
corinne bowyer yeah, Vitiate is a pretty good Sith.
@corinnebowyer67864 жыл бұрын
@@elassit217 vitiate was also more pratical, smart, cunning, & malipulative then sidious. after all vitiate was able to run 2 empires at the same time while sidious could only run 1 at a time twice for a very short time.
@elassit2174 жыл бұрын
corinne bowyer you are right about that
@corinnebowyer67864 жыл бұрын
@@elassit217 if you had to choose. who would you rather choose to serve vitiate or sidious? mine would have to be hands down vitiate.
@muzanjackson88272 жыл бұрын
Krayt DID heal himself, and even resurrected himself not with essence transfer, but by healing his dead body and shoving his spirit back inside, something no other sith has ever done.
@Marsman3436 жыл бұрын
Good video, enjoying the background
@yog74396 жыл бұрын
Jack Aubrey Yogurt
@jordanhendrix26196 жыл бұрын
Loving the snazzy profile pic, man!
@willowwonderbe34606 жыл бұрын
My man you are killing it with these awesome video! I don't know how a single channel could be this great!!
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd7736 жыл бұрын
Keep more brilliant videos in this series coming Eck! :) They are so awesome! :)
@ChronicCheater4 жыл бұрын
Something you didn't mention for Sadow, is that his illusions were so powerful they could cause physical damage. Not useful after the Republic/Jedi discovered his trick, but would be incredibly potent if it had been harnessed correctly.
@Generalphoenix84382 жыл бұрын
I do find him to be one of my favourite sith Lords but if I was him I would have done things a little differently. I would have had my forces scatter and spread across certain worlds to begin building he foundations of or empire in secret then when we are ready join our world to build a sith empire under my rule and begin our assault on certain worlds. Using my illusions to trick weaker worlds to surrender and submit and allowing my greater fleets to keep the republic busy while I build up enough forces to launch an assault to wipe the jedi out. Even if my main fleet suffered a defeat our remaining forces can regroup and gather our strength while other fleets I built travel to other worlds to establish new bases and then I'd hibernate the same. Inly this time when my empire is established at full strength were then I train a legion of sith warriors honour bound to the empire and to fight together against the jedi while other Sith are trained to command my armies. Meanwhile I'm harnessing the powers of the force to create new weapons and creatures bound to my will to destroy any in my way.
@jessebosch67326 жыл бұрын
wow.. I remembered you had 300 subs..204k in such a short time...
@gc60966 жыл бұрын
Jesse Bosscha yup it's amazing.
@Eddard_Stark5 жыл бұрын
hello there
@rxdntpto5 жыл бұрын
Jesse Bosch was here at 30k 🖐
@TheCynicalCommentator4 жыл бұрын
@@Eddard_Stark general kenobi
@omganotherun5 жыл бұрын
Sidious. Imagine secretly being the Chief Executive Officer of both sides in a war, getting away with it and being democratically elected Galactic Emperor for your deeds. Magnificent.
@rapturus70986 жыл бұрын
Love the background with all the ships!
@ConorMcgregor3226 жыл бұрын
Love these videos.
@timbartschwolfman6 жыл бұрын
Sweganator2013 Eckharts Ladder has great Videos Nice picture of First Order Stormtrooper 👍
@ConorMcgregor3226 жыл бұрын
Tim Bartsch thanks man.
@timbartschwolfman6 жыл бұрын
Sweganator2013 Your welcome friend
@petercurtis90356 жыл бұрын
love them to
@thehighguarduk48206 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and complete agree with the rankings. Vitiate not only reined for longer than any other Sith by a massive margin but brought the Sith back from the brink and built to be a major Galactic power that lasted for thousands of years even after his death, he had enormous patience and in terms of power had no rival.
@merrygalaxy25153 жыл бұрын
I feel like sith such as reven, Darth mar and valen should have got honorable mentions. Darth mar actually managed to somewhat unite the sith empire even after the emperor's physical death which is no small thing concerning what sith are like
@legoman70416 жыл бұрын
Palpatine isn't the best??? IT'S TREASON, THEN. *SPINNING RHAHHUAEDHIEWUHFUIHAUIHAUFHAIWEHFIUAEHFIUHEFUI*
@Fire_of7565 жыл бұрын
Vitiate: What is the Senate to a god?
@BulletTheEnforcer4 жыл бұрын
Mikail Ahmed THE SENATE!
@Fire_of7564 жыл бұрын
@@BulletTheEnforcer Talking is all you are good at. It is time you listened.
@BulletTheEnforcer4 жыл бұрын
Mikail Ahmed Are you threatening me, Master Ahmed?
@Fire_of7564 жыл бұрын
@@BulletTheEnforcer There is no need to fight against me. Instead you can kneel. (Tenebrae has the best lines)
@marcolinobacani29676 жыл бұрын
Yey you uploaded it I was exited about this
@xXC1N3M4G4M1NGXx6 жыл бұрын
The most important thing between Sidious and Valkorion is that Sidious was in his prime basically the only real sith lord in the entire Galaxy which according to Darth Bane and the Rule of Two gives that individual way more presence of the Dark Side within him. This cannot be said about Valkorion therefore IMO Valkorion is the stronger Sithlord in any aspect.
@CL-no3si6 жыл бұрын
What do you mean, no Revan? And bloody hell I’m early. Can I also say that I love the new background? It’s very cool, and a great shoutout to the patreons
@TheQuestCrafter6 жыл бұрын
Ethics Gradient he kinda went back and forth a lot, though I admit I only know what I know from the 2 Kotor Games and Swtor, haven’t read any of the books on him.
@MFenix2066 жыл бұрын
Revan is all things Sith, Jedi, neither, he forever stands alone. he is the single most influential force user ever, though not the most powerful.
@KitchenSinkSoup6 жыл бұрын
Revan KOTOR I - "Have a cool, faceless protagonist with an interesting backstory." KOTOR II - "Maybe Revan did not fall, maybe he became what he had too to save the galaxy from a greater threat." Revan book and SWTOR - "Just kidding Valkorion mind controlled him and we gave him and Meetra Surik canonical faces and endings removing the players choice!"
@MFenix2066 жыл бұрын
it is stated that Revan broke free of that mind control after escaping "Sith" space. his attempt to conquer the Republic was him building a rival to the true Sith Empire. so yeah Kotor II would be accurate. The Revan book was pretty good, until it wasn't, and SWTOR... yeah no....
@KitchenSinkSoup6 жыл бұрын
Revan The problems I have with the Revan book is the ending, how it treated most of the KOTOR games companions and especially how it treated the Jedi Exile and KOTOR II as a whole. SWTOR doesn't exist.
@Sc0ts6 жыл бұрын
All these factions compared teach me so much about Star Wars. You summarise everything well enough so I don't have to go sift through pages of text to get a complete understanding like you offer.
@timbartschwolfman6 жыл бұрын
I liked when Eckharts Ladder had ships passing through the video
@janix59296 жыл бұрын
I agree, pretty cool, and original. I feel like I am watching the EaW main screen. I would prefer more images of the Sith though.
@timbartschwolfman6 жыл бұрын
Janix That would be cool to see
@ryanborchert83895 жыл бұрын
love your content EckhartsLadder. not only do you make great insightful videos for star wars characters and lore, but you also cover Halo and many other science fiction universes. anytime I look for some specific information on a topic for Star Wars or Halo lore, one of the first things I do is watch your videos and look up the specific topic or piece of information/time period I'm looking into. your content really is top notch man, subscribed :)
@SuperAmaton5 жыл бұрын
In my oppinion: In terms of natural, Power Sidious is the strongest. In terms of unnatural Power, Vitiate is the strongest. In terms of Talent, Krayt is the strongest. Don't know much about Naga Sadow so i can't give a good oppinion about him.
@williamryder84974 жыл бұрын
In terms of creating supernovas, Naga Sadow is the strongest.
@kwadwoagyeman40334 жыл бұрын
Nahh...vitiate's "natural" power was on par with Marka Ragnos..whose's power was so powerful he went unchallenged and die of natural causes..what i'm really surprised about is why he isn't mentioned but i guess since he wasn't ambitious too much and didn't try to form a galactic empire he didn't make the list...but in my opinion he's deffo the strongest sith to exist
@SuperAmaton4 жыл бұрын
@@kwadwoagyeman4033 I made my Choice, this here is it.
@unsubme21574 ай бұрын
Naga sadow really didnt do a whole lot, he got power, jumped the gun on going to war with the republic, and lost. Thats his major contribution, letting the republic know that theres an evil empire out there somewhere. He also blew up a star which caused other nearby stars to chain explode and blew away the jedis hiding planet.
@nerfinfineon55896 жыл бұрын
I loved the background with the ships. I also love the dog at the end. Hilarious!
@MikeDiaz_BibleBeliever6 жыл бұрын
This video deserves 1,000,000 views already and its been on for only 30 minutes! absolutely subbed
@Malodis_6 жыл бұрын
I dont consider myself a stats and numbers type of fan of star wars, but I am happy I found your channel. You make the breakdowns entertaining for us laymen.
@jasonmartinez9116 жыл бұрын
This video already seems amazing and I haven't even watched it yet
@ProfessorPotatoPhD6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, some time ago, i never even knew Star Wars Legends existed. Let alone it being split from the now Disney Canon. But now i do, and, at least i think, know pretty much for someone who hasn't read or seen any material from legends...I gotta admit..Legends stuff is by far the best part of Star wars to me. That you include it in many of your videos is great, as many star wars YT channels now talk about the comics or movies/shows. Just keep up the amazing work :D
@Mobysimo5 жыл бұрын
It's always awesome to see Valkorion get some love. He's my favorite Dark Sider/Sith
@GrantJRix6 жыл бұрын
Love the Background! 25th Attempt Katana Fleet vs Epsilon Eridani Fleet
@StarSage666 жыл бұрын
The Clone Wars Era Republic had the best sith lord with Darth Binx. The jedi were in big doodoo during his secret reign
@rossgauthier63526 жыл бұрын
Another exceptional video Ecks, these are an awesome combination of lore and comparisons!
@-Rickster-6 жыл бұрын
I think you got the order pretty much spot on. My take on it was more about power in the force. Krayt and Palpi would have been powerful when a lot of the Sith teachings have been lost where sadow would have been before a lot more has been learnt. Vitiate would have had access to massive amounts of power as well as knowledge. Nice vid. Made me happy to ponder in the Star Wars universe
@arjyadebsengupta81594 жыл бұрын
Vitiate:I will make a new empire Palpatine:I will convert the republic into an empire Darth Krayt:I will do both
@vadimananenko24523 жыл бұрын
Naga sadow: haha solar system go brrr
@AlexNinja6366 жыл бұрын
Nice video bro👌👌
@Temp0ral_6 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much, I don't know why but your intro theme gives me so much nostalgia
@jujuthehoms54826 жыл бұрын
I agree Valkorian was a better leader, however I still believe Palpatine was the most powerful Sith Lord ever, but since we're talking overall I would have to go with Valkorian as well
@spartavis89046 жыл бұрын
Juju the Homs/ Better leader, by being silent for centuries? The true leader of the empire is a person like Darth Marr he is the emperor that sith's needed.
@ADR696 жыл бұрын
Palps was the strongest Sith ever if by no other means than the rule of two
@SuperGhostUK6 жыл бұрын
Juju the Homs I absolutely agree with you. Power in the force doesn't necessarily equate to one's overall power, as Valkorian was very intelligent, patient, resourceful and manipulative. Unlike Palpatine, who essentially helped destroy the Sith by adamantly sticking to Bane's Rule of Two and his inability to be as resourceful due to being in hiding for so long. LeXApple does have a point with Darth Marr being what the Sith needed as he was very progressive as an important Sith figurehead, however he was undone by his over ambitiousness and lack of patience (not to mention he just was not as skilled in the force as Valkorian). Valkorian was rather silent for a prolonged periods of time, but that was part of his "grand-plan" as he did successfully hollow out a fairly powerful force-user and possess him, then he formed a 2nd Empire with any resources available to him. Which then was able to defeat both the Sith Empire and the Republic simultaneously, after he lured both Jedi and Sith into creating a new war with his new Empire. Don't forget it took a good few powerful force-users to finally defeat Valkorian. Sorry for the lengthy reply lol.
@jujuthehoms54826 жыл бұрын
SuperGhostuk yeah, palpating was manipulative sure but he used the already existing infighting and corruption. Whereas valkorian start up talked people into doing something. If he was a better father and husband I doubt he would have been killed seeing as how it took his entire family with the help of the outlander to beat him for good
@SuperGhostUK6 жыл бұрын
Juju the Homs, that is very true. However Valkorian's plan/goal (to become a God, I believe) never truly involved having a wife or kids, they were just a means to an end that could be destroyed. You said it yourself, the Outlander/Jedi Knight was the catalyst that united the family against Valkorian (plus the Sith Artifact that Valkorian trapped his father in). Plus without the Outlander/Jedi Knight, united they most likely would have still failed against him. So in a way perhaps the Outlander/Jedi Knight was one of the most powerful Jedi's (again force power doesn't always equate to overall power) at that time/ever as Valkorian said himself that the Outlander left his mark wherever he went across the galaxy and it was supposed to be the Outlander's body that would have been the perfect vessel for Valkorian's powerful spirit.
@markedkaiboy48786 жыл бұрын
I feel that your videos are more organised and interesting than other channels. The editing is great and the effort in each video is amazing. Can't wait for 500k subs😃
@Saiaxs5 жыл бұрын
Valkorian was not technically Vitiate, just possessed by him And Tenebrae was Vitiate’s first body, a pure blood Sith, before becoming a human If we’re allowing canon vs non-canon, then Vitiate is stronger than any other Sith ever
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
Why even acknowledge the character that retroactively ruined the story of its source material? He's a Palpatine rip-off they cobbled together to make sense of the fact that their franchise had a faction that was suddenly chock-a-block with powerful Sith as the norm - the ruling caste. "Oh shit, painted ourselves into a corner. Now we need an even GREATER Sith to reconcile this status-quo with the Sith mentality. And we can make overpriced DLC all about him! Yay!" Fuck EA, fuck SWTOR. The only good thing Disney's done is render this bullshit non-canon, though if only they left it at this instead of axing everything.
@bankroll44165 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Actually, Vitiate was OP before Palpatine was made "OP." Plus he got bodied by a girl so I mean..
@StarWarsDecrypted4 жыл бұрын
No he isnt there are several sith stronger than him, practically all his power is artificial
@SN-nl8tm3 жыл бұрын
@@StarWarsDecrypted Welp power is power. It doesn't matter if it's ur own or if u leech it from others
@StarWarsDecrypted3 жыл бұрын
@@SN-nl8tm yeh power is also drawn from the force, and the force is constantly growing, power back in the time of Valk didn’t even exist to draw from back then as opposed to with Sidious or Krayt
@holyroller566 жыл бұрын
Loved you including the doggo at the end! Lol.
@Videogameuser-wq9zd6 жыл бұрын
I am the best most powerful sith to ever exist Nice video by the way
@arielquelme5 жыл бұрын
no you are not. i mean used to be... after Darth Binks
@yoggsaron14845 жыл бұрын
He's right, im the god of death you can trust me
@comeslammer94555 жыл бұрын
Nah It is Darth gonk Darth Binks Then emperor valkorion
@Sarkkoth5 жыл бұрын
Na man I killed you.
@Iorvethfox5 жыл бұрын
@Shawn Dhaliwal just because Lucas said something doesn't mean that the evidence supports what he said. Vitiate is the most powerful Sith to have ever existed, perhaps second to the Sith Warrior and Sith Assassin if you use them in KOTFE and KOTET to am extent.
@samwhary54986 жыл бұрын
I like the new ending for your videos eckhart. Your dog is adorable and makes me jealous
@mastermickman43886 жыл бұрын
All ships present at the battle of coruscant (or just one side) vs the byss fleet during shadow hand. I've tried like 30 times now
@Sum1BetrThanU15 жыл бұрын
Your ranking was on point with me. Great vid. Grand masters next?
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie6 жыл бұрын
So in terms of raw power Sidious is #1, in terms of the best combatant Darth Krayt, in terms of staying in power and ruling the Galaxy Vitiate, in terms of getting in over his head Naga Sadow baby
@OmegaDanJA6 жыл бұрын
Great video and I feel like how you ranked them was accurate. I also felt that vitiate/valkorion was the most powerful, manipulative and smartest sith in galactic history.
@GrandVizierPestage5 жыл бұрын
Kneel before the Dragon of Zakuul!
@matthewkuchinski17696 жыл бұрын
Another great weakness of Palpatine was that he constantly broke the Rule of Two, the very foundation of the Sith Order. Within the films, Palpatine uses many apprentices to try to achieve his goals, yet from such constant betrayals of his students came his fall at the hands of Vader. And with the Operation Shadow Hand, when he had an army of Dark Side users, he weakened himself by having a potential rival takeover when an opportunity would strike.
@adams13245 Жыл бұрын
Is the Rule of Two necessary to be a sith? I heard that was something made by Darth Bane to cut down on the massive infighting between sith that tended to screw them over. I also saw a video on why normal troopers were able to defeat sith under Vitiate, which said it was because they weren't embracing the selfish, power hungry nature of the dark side. They were high on a more selfless nationalism made by Vitiate, not the all consuming lust for power. The idea was that they would sacrifice themselves for their emperor which probably works best when you've got a large population.
@Jzzzy-hl8ts6 жыл бұрын
Cool background ecks
@sewrtyuiop9976 жыл бұрын
I came here to get my jimmies rustled, and I wasn't disappointed. Keep up the good work
@S85B50Engine3 жыл бұрын
Vitiate was the most Sith out of all Sith and came the closest to the Sith goal of dominating the galaxy. He could just wait his enemies lifetimes out, turn the single most powerful Jedi from his time to the Dark Side without even trying and had a practically invincible fleet. Heck, it took both the Sith Empire, the Republic and the Jedi to take him out.
@SosaL4323 жыл бұрын
i have to agree that vitiate/valkorion was the most powerful ancient sith ever, like by far. but the power he gained definitely wasn't all organic, like he gained power by consuming the life essence of others and obsorbing energy from holocrons, etc. but imo the things he did makes palpatine look like a weakling. also imagine if valkorion had found the font of power from abeloths planet and drank from it... that would be terrifying.
@vadimananenko24523 жыл бұрын
Vitiate was so glorious and successful in that era because he doesn't need to to deal with yoda, anakin and luke
@jsolis996 жыл бұрын
Great vids.. loooove that ending...
@chad90155 жыл бұрын
I love all of them. The complex backstories of Marka Ragnos, Ludo Kressh, Naga Sadow. Truly unique. I also love the Brotherhood and Darth Bane. A very unique perspective to the Sith. They arent neccessarily all powerful and fearless (obviously :/)
@CommissarTommy226 жыл бұрын
Thought everyone knew JarJar was the most successful Sith Lord, love the new background as well
@enoughothis6 жыл бұрын
The Rule of Two distilled the Sith to their most potent. Ironic that the Jedi spread themselves and became weak after the Battle of Ruusan.
@slim420-e8v6 жыл бұрын
LOL The rule two has one major problem. NO TRUE SITH FOLLOWS THE RULES OF ANOTHER.
@enoughothis6 жыл бұрын
Slim420 Reshades, the Rule exploits the backstabbing tendency all Sith have. It's not so much following as learning everything that old fool can teach you and then killing him when he's worthless. Self interest makes the Rule work. It failed because Bane never considered that an apprentice would kill his master and redeem to the light. But on the flip side, wherever the light grows in strength there also shadows congregate. The Sith WILL rise again!
@enoughothis6 жыл бұрын
Dancing Deity, Palpatine was a heretic in that instance. The idea was that until an apprentice was stronger than their master they would be unable to *kill* said master. They would struggle for every scrap of knowledge they obtained and thus know the value of it. Yes Bane was a bit of an idealist but his plan *worked* . The Jedi were overthrown and the Republic transformed into a Sith Empire. Yes it took 1000 years but it worked. Final note, as a philosophy I believe that the One Sith doctrine of Krayt was more suited to running an Empire, Palpatine would defeat him in a fight. Though they both have super hot babes as their Hands. Mara Jade and Darth Talon, yummy!
@enoughothis6 жыл бұрын
The Rule of Two was not an end-all be-all. It enabled the Sith to survive, to adapt and overcome their enemies. It could not and did it work for actually ruling the galaxy. It's main advantage was stealth and subtlety. With only two Sith running around the secret of their survival could be kept. You can't rule the galaxy with just two people. So the One Sith doctrine actually works better. You could say that Palpatine's biggest failure was not keeping up with the times. He really did very little ruling himself, trusting the Moffs and Governors he appointed to rule for him.
@filthycasualevan152346 жыл бұрын
The sith spent thousands of years in the shadows to rule for a mere twenty.
@Woodsy25755 жыл бұрын
Vitiate is cool and all but him being “the best at everything ever, also he can’t die and Revan and Malak were his puppets” makes him sound like a mary sue fanfic character
@jakefoley95395 жыл бұрын
That's because he is a mary sue fanfic character.
@DoubleBoost235 жыл бұрын
I mean, he *did* die, _so..._
@bankroll44165 жыл бұрын
You're basically calling all OP characters mary sue fanfic with that logic.
@BirkSolli5 жыл бұрын
Well, he did have a fatal flaw: such a huge ego and over-confidence that he considered himself a god. Which at the end cost him his life.
@bankroll44165 жыл бұрын
Winkee right. Cockiness was his downfall and that’s really surprising considering he was a master tactician.
@CL-no3si6 жыл бұрын
Sci-fi AIs compared: Medincant Bias (Halo) Deep Thought (Hitchhikers Guide) Sovereign (Mass Effect) Culture Mind (The Culture)
@tigersebel6 жыл бұрын
Yes. please!
@itsyaboidaniel29196 жыл бұрын
Where is Skynet This is an outrage And what about the The Multivac from "The Last Question"? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gobSd52qr8RjbLc It's number 5 on this list
@itsyaboidaniel29196 жыл бұрын
idk why the link isn't working, just copy paste it into the search bar
@silentangel22596 жыл бұрын
Scorpio is also a good one.
@johnsoltero17976 жыл бұрын
It's Ya Boi Daniel U FORGET THE FATHER OF THEM ALL. HAL9000
@a.silvermane99365 жыл бұрын
Vitiate, no contest. Subjugated Revan, and created two galaxy spanning Empires that didn't collapse due to ineptitude but his sheer apathy having even larger ambitions then even the galaxy.
@RedSalute6 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?
@veespa_2 жыл бұрын
I thought that Bane and Freedon Nadd and Malgus were up there in strength and notoriety alongside these guys. I guess I was wrong.
@tulakhord94922 жыл бұрын
What about me?
@connorgolden46 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked kryat. He had an interesting philosophy and did a lot in a much shorter period of time compared to the other sith who's orders took centuries to take control of the Galaxy or at least tried to.
@blackmonish5 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. Admittedly, I don't know as much about Krayt (however you spell it), but I would still put Naga under him. This list was dead on in my opinion. Great work as always man!
@Ed-qo4oz3 жыл бұрын
Vitiate to me was the most powerful, and most interesting
@Frizzleman5 жыл бұрын
I really love these videos, just pure Star Wars lore!
@merlin14646 жыл бұрын
I love vitiate, so happy he made it to the top.
@chancingproductions44534 жыл бұрын
Vitiate also took over a planet at the age of 9
@1917cutlass6 жыл бұрын
Hilarious ending. When did you change it?
@EckhartsLadder6 жыл бұрын
Yesterday!
@1917cutlass6 жыл бұрын
It's awesome brother! If you don't mind, I'd like to mimic it for videos I'll be making for my business.
@yungace18203 жыл бұрын
@@EckhartsLadder Why did you say Vitiate was more powerful than Sidious when the latter has been stated numerous times to be the most powerful Sith Lord ever ?
@itzauthenticxd42186 жыл бұрын
The Background is really cool especially the Dog
@Ivbo5 жыл бұрын
Emperor Vitiate would honestly eat Palpatine alive...
@fuzzydunlop79285 жыл бұрын
Because EA said so? So glad it's not canon.
@tomforrest33544 жыл бұрын
Fuzzy Dunlop it is cannon
@theBoarSkinner4 жыл бұрын
@@tomforrest3354 I wish it was. Palpatine by rights isn't a true Sith. Not only did he not follow the Sith Code and never cared much for the rule of two, but he intentionally weakened his apprentice to lightning simply to keep himself in power. If he was a true Sith then he would not have limited his apprentice's potential. The stronger Sith must allow his apprentice to grow powerful enough to overthrow them, if they fail at that, the choice is theirs to kill or spare.
@DeceptionDice4 жыл бұрын
John Skinner He did obey to the rule of two, Maul was never a sith. Just a dark side assassin same as Ventress. Dooku was a Sith and then Anakin took his place. You’re right about that last part though. But sidious saw Vader as a failure and not his equal. So he decided he should be the immortal emperor.
@engincanisler89324 жыл бұрын
@@DeceptionDice no maul was a sith
@kiyanhakim3845 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the right decision I thought of. Amazing argumentation and yes vitiate was in a league of his own.
@TreiberSeptim5 жыл бұрын
Many factions has sith lords But only only one has THE SENATE!
@caderen56244 жыл бұрын
@Vitor Lima its treason then
@pinstripe42544 жыл бұрын
I have a theory. I believe Palpatine is a sociopath. Or at least he would be without the force. The force allows him to feels something close to emotion. He is nothing but the dark side because he has nothing else. He is empty
@nicolas.p3316 жыл бұрын
Meesa your humble servant!
@ArmouredProductions6 жыл бұрын
Now I know Palpatine was insanely strong in Legends. But Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion was very very memorable in my opinion. I really liked his Valkorion persona. "A God has no family"
@lucasclark16696 жыл бұрын
I like the new background
@timbartschwolfman6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Clark I know right it looks cool
@Jenn-lq9yu6 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, I'm so happy. I was expecting Palpatine to be ranked #1 on this list above Vitiate because seemingly every Star Wars KZbinr has a massive bias of being like, 'Omg Palpatine was the best Sith ever.' I'm so happy you ranked Vitiate above him.
@vadimananenko24523 жыл бұрын
I think that those who stated Valkorion is the strongest are the biased one? Every star wars experts know that palpatine is superior
@electroblade56782 жыл бұрын
@@vadimananenko2452 agreed
@illuminati51216 жыл бұрын
Vitiate my boi
@voievod92602 жыл бұрын
Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy, and we shall have .. peace.
@dogefishron28606 жыл бұрын
I’m going with The Senate (Darth Sidious).
@steel588366 жыл бұрын
Doge Fishron yeah, so am I
@Deridus6 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much a given when you can paraphrase King Louis the something-or-other and say, "I am the State."
@johnsoltero17976 жыл бұрын
The Senate 9! The Eternal Emperor air to Marka Ragnos. Is #1
@maul55785 жыл бұрын
Doge Fishron lol no
@jurassicpark3spinosaurus6454 жыл бұрын
Of course
@KJnapalm5 жыл бұрын
That dog at the end was hilarious!!
@michaelfaber95874 жыл бұрын
I feel like sadow was a revolutionary, the trigger for the idea that the site should expand, but valkorion did it better
@Generalphoenix84382 жыл бұрын
I agree. Sadiw is one if not my favourite sith LORDS based on how powerful he was at illusions but I mentioned to someone else I would have built up my armies then using his illusions forced certain worlds to surrender. Plus I'd capture a republic ship to access its navigation systems to discover if we found any worlds and look for worlds we can invade. The unknown regions are logically my first choice and I'd hibernate until our empire is at it's TRUE strength. Then we attack and conquer world by world and rally support with crime lords. My planning is about being patient and quite until were ready.