Which SUPERHERO has the best ORIGIN?

[@bensneb360]

Static Shock. Because it establishes his origin, all his villains origin, and why the city needs a superhero (due to the cops being out gunned by the bang baby’s), and why the police are so quick to accept Static as a hero and work with him. It establishes so much without making it complicated, it is highly efficient

[@andrewlewis2123]

45:00 Sal, you gave me a new respect for Jason Todd in the Back Issues on The Cult. Red Hood aside, I feel like that’s the best place for Jason in the Robin line-up. While Dick is the son Bruce can be proud of, and Tim is the one who “gets him” intellectually and emotionally, and Damian is his blood, Jason is, as Frank Miller puts it, a good soldier. He can count on Jason not to fall apart, ‘cause he’s been through some shit.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Guy fights a crab person, works out, loses all his hair. I also like to think that the modern day reason Magneto stays young is he does so out of spite.

[@carlosantonio7761]

Only kid without powers receives them from the greatest super hero in the world. Becomes greatest of all time, and cries all the way through

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@carlosantonio7761 Superhero origins explained badly needs to be a thing!

[@tyleriocono5457]

I usually fall asleep listen to a comic pop mix playlist so now i fall asleep listening to a comic pop returns mix on repeat to give them as much listen time as possible, i hope my hours of sleep listening helps you reach what ever goal you need, sal, Tiffany, Ben, Ethan, i genuinely love you guys please continue what your doing

[@adamquenano8563]

I’ve been looking for this to the point I thought I was Crazy and never existed Top 10 For me: 1.Spider-Man 2.Batman 3.Superman 4.Wolverine 5.Daredevil 6.Dick Grayson(Robin,Nightwing,Batman) 7.Captain America 8.Wally West(Kid Flash,The Flash) 9.Doctor Strange 10.Iron Man

[@alexsanchez4289]

Dick Grayson is on of the better ones to me. It parallels Batman’s origin while also changing it so Dick will never be like Bruce, it just creates a Bruce that was able to get over his trauma.

[@nathanchaffin6380]

Ive got a couple origins. You've mention it before Sal. But Static's origin when told though the lens of Dwyane McDuffie is excellent. Hellboy also has a very original story, being born a monster meant to conquer our realm, but not born 'evil' and raised to be a hero.

[@pbjoey703]

Honestly wolverines origin (COMIC) is super great and I love going back to it!

[@dead0ntime]

Just tuned in after earning a free pass from one of my final exams.Can’t wait for the channel to reach the 4000 hours

[@scoobers90]

I think the best origins are ones that informs the hero to their core. Batman, Superman, and Daredevil come to mind.

[@adamquenano8563]

Web-Head too

[@F28aj]

Great choices. Daredevil is the most relatable and prob the best for me.

[@soujimura4839]

Very good point

[@galahad1955]

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[@galahad1955]

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[@andrewlewis2123]

Appreciate you explaining how and why this decision was made, Sal. Lots of my other favorite KZbinrs have done similar things with second channels, but they’ve phrased it as “If you like me, there’s EVEN MORE over here!” And I’m personally more inclined to support if I know the direct reason how it helps, even if the answer is just “KZbin keeps jerking us around, so please drop another sub if you like this”. Keep on truckin!

[@MrFtpforlife]

I like Booster Gold & Deathlok’s origin

[@EDUBKTFO411]

Back issues and Elseworlds Exchange are my favorites!!!

[@milliondotz]

I dont consider this the best, or even my favorite, but I really love Gwenpools origin. It's steeped in continuity while also not having anything to do with it. It's not derived from any particular character. She's a person from our world that got swept into the Marvel universe because the entire multiverse was destroyed in secret wars. She's not a chosen one or anything grand. Just person that now exists and I really vibe with that.

[@jonahmaple8840]

The 90s John Ostrander written origin for Martian Manhunter is my favorite

[@accidentalmadness1708]

26:35 i don’t follow Wonder Woman very hard but I’m assuming Hera bugged when Wonder Woman was revealed to be zues’s kid. I would have go to Hera and throw the original origin in her face.

[@MisterKetch]

The car insurance super chat was a reference to the telemarketer call Joel said he was getting. Come on Sal you must have gotten a million of those by now lol Edit : not my super chat, just felt like mentioning

[@valarmorghulis5575]

Batman. Don’t care if it’s mainstream but Batman. Then Spiderman then Superman

[@anthonyeldridge4358]

I love Superman, but over and over again I see people who say he's so hard to write or hard to relate to and I've come to realize that it's not the idea Superman's detractors are Snyder fan edgelords who are emotionally damaged and hate the very concept of heroism. See, DC has hobbled Superman as a character while at the same time building up Batman again and again. Superman's origin is great and simple, but at the same time there's a big element missing: choice. Batman is an active character while Superman is a static character. Batman had to learn, train, grow and improve and BECOMES Batman. Superman just IS good. Everything about him is given to him. He's perfect you see. He's better than you, better than me, better than EVERYONE else and on top of that has all the powers you can imagine. I make the comparison to Forrest Gump. Hear me out, put the gun down and lower the pitchforks. In "Forrest Gump," things happen to Forrest and he does what he's told by others. Historical events happen around him and help shape him into the person that he is. Also, Forrest has abilities that no one else does: He discovers he can just ping pong better than anyone, he can run across the country and literally inspire others just by doing what he's good at. Why do I say that DC keeps hobbling him? If a writer tries to add something interesting to the character, check your calendar, because a new crisis is on the way and it's gonna be reboot time. Superman gets reset back to the beginning so the basic story gets retold and his Rogues Gallery gets reset back to Lex, Zod, Doomsday, and maybe Brainiac if we have the time. I know we're tired of watching the Waynes get gunned down in that freaking alley. But is anyone else tired of the reboot-death-cycle with Superman that causes so much of the Super-verse left in the dust. Crap, I'm starting to rant again and I'll stop here and just say that DC is hurting Superman and then hiding their hands with reboots.

[@F28aj]

Daredevil Punisher Wolverine Batman Superman Personal fave/unpopular opinion is Moon Knight

[@travispagan3824]

Else’s worlds is back WHOOOHOOO

[@PurplePaddy]

That grifter mask in the background from probably SDCC is absolutely stellar ! Awesome taste hahaha!

[@joremgreenwell9287]

Elseworlds with the Caped One. This is a staple of the channel for me. Other exchanges have brought us excellent special guest appearances with other professional talent within the comic creative worlds and beyond. Giving us hours of insight to the current and timeless topics of the medium we love so much. Give a listen, find your thread to chase

[@willmackinnon9397]

As a Canadian i can confirm that Captain America is one if my faves. In my Top 5 superheroes for sure

[@zionharris9432]

Gotta make sure I'm here, Sal you are the comic book guy for me now and Joel is always great to see and here keep going guys🤩

[@christophercheck1590]

I think the preferred term for "native Americans" are "indigenous people" or "first nations people." I think the first, indigenous, makes the most sense. They were the first inhabitants, so it's a descriptive term. 44:30 I really wish they played more with the Damien origin and the inherent tension that that makes. When you have a family of adopted children, and then have a biological child, there's an element of jealousy innate in that. Damien offers a great opportunity to play with the found/chosen vs. biological family distinction. "The Blood of the Covenant is thicker than the Water of the Womb" kind of stuff. Of course, the problem is that Damien should NOT be Robin, or he should be the WORST Robin to create that tension. They've played with him learning from the other Robins (especially in the pre-Flashpoint Dickbats books), but I feel like the abandoned that very interesting dynamic for the last decade, with only brief resurgences (Batman and Robin Eternal, brief flashes in the Tom King Batman run, etc.) 1:03:00 I love deep cuts into those old books. Like when Slam Bradley showed up in later Batman comics. He was a Detective Comics character PRE-27, so he is older than Batman. Or when people remember that the magician Giovanni Zatara (Zatanna's dad) made his debut in Action Comics 1, the same issue with Superman.

[@infernaldisdain8051]

Unfortunately the whole "Native American" name problem is very divisive even among the Native Americans. For one, they are aren't a united people and treating them like one can piss some of them off hard, and for another some prefer the name Indian, or just referring to them as their independent tribe names. It's a whole quagmire.

[@christophercheck1590]

@@infernaldisdain8051 That's fair, but from a sociological perspective, there IS a benefit to referring to the original inhabitants here with a descriptive name, for the same reason we refer to the pre-Classical Greeks as the "Dorians" or the tribal nomads who came out of central Asia as the "steppe peoples." It allows categorization when general statements are required. That doesn't mean they aren't ALSO members of their individual tribes ("Scythian" and "steppe nomad" are not exclusive terms, nor are "doric tribesmen" and "ancient Myceneans") I think the issue with "Native American," for many, is just that it emphasizes the American title, which is a European title of the landmass, rather than treating the landmass through a more neutral lens. And, frankly, while I'd respect the wishes of a person who wants to be called an "Indian," if they're not from India I find the label inaccurate and confusing, even if they don't think it's offensive.

[@infernaldisdain8051]

@@christophercheck1590 Oh no, I understand the first part, I just wanted to add some context as an addition to your comment. I don't really have any real opinion on what should be the name of group, but it's obviously a contentious issue.

[@andrewfoerster6864]

I'm partial to Connor Kent Superboys origin just because of how it effectively set up his growth as a character and effectively allowed him to become his own separate character from the superman family as it existed

[@andrewfoerster6864]

This is not to take away from what an absolute mess reign of the supermen is.

[@nathanchaffin6380]

One last comment. Terry McGinnis has the best legacy origin.. I still get chills from "never again.."

[@dekaritheprofessor2631]

I completely Agree 💪🏾💪🏾🖤🖤

[@creed8712]

Keep epilogue a secret mate

[@andres99571]

In my opinion is Flash, barry Allen, how everything connects in a time loop making everything a combination between destiny and science make all the Barry origin completely diferent to any other. More complex but at the same time close what is to be a real heroe

[@MrCeratix]

Do what you need Sal, I hope you know you have one hell of a fanbase that will follow you guys anywhere you go!

[@MrYTGuy1]

Retcon Punch!

[@Sicod79]

On another note, I always feel Superman was destined to be Space Moses, considering his origins. Read the Shutterbug book, in some ways the reason he does not get powers is almost a One More Day Thing, small ripples just put the timing of the bite off.

[@LsElite4210]

Idk bro priest did a pretty dope steel run I’d love to see him back on that book

[@ShatteredTrousers]

Special shoutout to Daredevil because his origin story isn't just about how Matt Murdock became Daredevil, it also splinters off to include the origin of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

[@srinivasanbalaji4867]

1.superman 2.batman 3.spiderman 4.wolverine 5.robin

[@draiseg6178]

And here we are

[@Bwoodlyy]

I’ve been bringing some Elseworlds keep up the great work

[@azurecomet86]

Already named some of my first picks, so while not the first when you think of SUPERhero... and not always a hero... really enjoyed both Black Widow's origins in Marvel Knight's Black Widow. If you ever do the flipside to this video, gotta go with Silk. "Oh hey, by the way... the spider bit someone else just before it died." 😆Love the character but that was so weak. Then there's the Slingers - whichever ones are left these days. Spider-Man Identity Crisis & Mephisto. Good times.

[@nathanielgoldfarb6478]

99.2k subs on comicPop main !

[@jackrucinsky6205]

Sweet topic!

[@MCLegoboy]

Let's talk about some animated Superheroes, too. The Powerpuff Girls. Literally, I have no idea how this is science, Everything Nice is impossible to quantify as an ingredient, clearly there's some magic involved, but you know, Professor Utonium, he just wanted a family and it actually worked out. I don't know if he's just crazy and wanted to see if he could even create people, or if he just couldn't have a family the traditional way, but he's actually a pretty decent as a dad once the Girls come into being. And they kind of changed the origin later on with Mojo Jojo creating them by bumping into Utonium making him accidentally add Chemical X, but this was before even Mojo was mutated, so that's actually kind of fun how their arch nemesis is also involved with their creation. Danny Phantom. I mean, it's right there in the opening of the show, his parents try to make a portal to the Ghost Zone, but it doesn't activate properly, and he accidentally hits a button when he goes to check out what went wrong, it activates and he mutates into a ghost kid. It's actually pretty cool. He initially uses his powers to get back at bullies, but then he uses them to fight the ghosts because he's a good kid at heart, no big sense of guilt like Spider-Man to be responsible, but he still has the issues of being a teen where he's bullied, and has hopes and dreams he can't make happen to because he's neglecting other responsibilities because he's off fighting ghosts and whatnot to keep the world safe. Ben 10. Probably one of the coolest origins for a superhero in animation. Once again, it's a total accident, but Ben finds the Omnitrix and it straps itself to his wrist and essentially bonds itself to his DNA, and it allows the wearer to access Alien DNA harvested from throughout the Universe and turn them into the alien of their choice from silhouettes on the watchface. You get so many superheroes in one with Ben 10, every power imaginable, there's an alien that can do it. The best thing about this is that despite the thing being indestructible for the most part, Ben slamming his hand down on the thing caused it to give him different aliens than what he chose, and it forced him to think outside the box to fight crime or defeat invading aliens or whatever. Eventually he learns to just accept whatever it gives him because the watch seems to know what is needed in every situation he's in, but it's still up to him to determine what needs to be done once he's the alien. Oh and the Omnitrix wasn't even designed for superhero antics, it was just for simple communication and negotiation between species as beings could better understand one another by literally walking in their shoes. It wasn't even meant for Ben, it was meant for his Grandpa Max who was part of the Plumbers, an organization that dealt with extra terrestrial phenomena. Ben achieves the goal of the Omnitrix a few times, but its creator is proud of how Ben has found to use it as it has helped many people and even he's even saved the universe and I think even the multiverse a couple of times. Never underestimate kid superheroes, they can do quite a lot. The ones I listed never had a super dramatic origin, but they always have arcs of being selfish and the powers force them to be responsible with their powers and they're really more a metaphor about growing up and using your talents to make something of yourself and to contribute to society, you know, stuff that kids to think about when they're watching a show about people fighting monsters and aliens and robots and ghosts and stuff, but the message secretly gets in their brains and hopefully it sticks. Well okay, that might be a stretch for the Powerpuff Girls, they're in Kindergarten, but they are a team with diverse personalities and interests that create conflict, but they still find a way to work together, still important stuff. So I guess really, their origins aren't necessarily that important in making them who they are, these are all kids and teens, the shows are their origin story because it's growing up, and nothing bad had to happen to make growing up already hard enough, they don't need planets exploding and death to make them extraordinary to still be heroes.

[@MrFtpforlife]

Cloak & Dagger have good origins also

[@thoarnejones6805]

Ngl I think Spiderman has the best origin. A teenager choosing to not involve himself in a crime(something all of us would do as well). And because of it loses his father figure. Then decides he will always get involved. In the case of Peter getting the great power great responsibility speech you could almost say Peter misinterprets what Uncle Ben meant. As Ben likely would not have wanted him to get involved powers or no powers. Then lives his life based on guilt that he was irresponsible(which is debatable).

[@ez6888]

It is not debatable.

[@MrPink-qf1xi]

This is a hard one but for me, Spider-Man(I never wanna see it on screen again, but Amazing Fantasy 15 is a perfect introduction for any superhero, for me and still the best version of the origin I think) Wolverine(Weapon X origin) Tim Drake, Iron Man(Movie version), Batman(Year One or Mask of the Phantasm version), Ms. Marvel/Kamala Khan is solid, Captain America is great, Superman is great, basically every solid superhero has a solid origin so it is hard to choose. But best supervillain origins? that would be a conversation.

[@brettpritchard265]

I think that the best superhero origin is and has always been a toss up between Batman and Spiderman. Probably lean more towards Spiderman as he's more of an 'everyman.'

[@Ash-ep1nz]

Batman, Magneto

[@FifthHorseman23]

Did the Dislike Guy seriously subscribe to this channel too?

[@thelonious7162]

Batman, a Disney Princess? ...be the coolest Disney Princess I’ll tell you that

[@lexofpower2822]

Does Thor technically have a true origin or is it just basically the origin of how he came to earth? My favorite is probably Spider-Man, Batman seconded, Superman third, Iron Man fourth, and Green Lantern fifth.

[@davidtauriainen9116]

Old question, but deserves an answer: There's a series of Thor comics based on the Ring Cycle which show the Asgardians from before the medieval Ragnarok. When Odin was reformed, he chose to change Thor this time to break the Ragnarok cycle. This is why modern Thor is blond instead of red haired, among other things. 616 Thor's Mother is Gaia and Phoenix increasing his power beyond Agardian levels. But he still didn't defeat They Who Sit Above In Shadow (the sowers and reapers of Ragnarok), but instead Odin's other son fulfilled that task, scaring them away with stories.

[@spideyfan6296]

I have a suggestion for a Elseworlds Exchange episode, you can ignore it if you want. A episode dedicated to religious characters in comics, like Matthew Murdock A.K.A. DareDevil, Kamala Khan A.K.A. Ms. Marvel, ect.

[@christianndukwe8994]

Cool 😎

[@toushin1000]

Saitama, King

[@TevyaSmolka]

honestly my favorite origins are probably Tim drake robin Wally west my all time favorite flash Spider-man peter parker and of course my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy.

[@Peecamarke]

Great vid guys! 👍🏿 Tbh, I'm one of those viewers who, if you just point me to channel with you all I'll like and subscribe

[@robertmckinnon7003]

Where does he get (and afford) the training?

[@nathanchaffin6380]

Iron fist. God love him, has one of the worst origins in comics. His father was obsessed with with an invisible city, forcing his family to pursue his ambitious, then causing his family to suffer a plane crash. His mother survives only to be eaten by wolves. Danny goes on to be trained by monks to be Kung lun's immortal protector. Then he abandons his responsibilities to take revenge on the man that wronged his family... it feels like it's trying to hard to be a comic origin lol

[@driftingswordsmanzer]

The origin of iron fist’s father coming from Kung lun was good, and explained his obsession to returning. The iron fist story that I hated, was the living weapon storyline it made Danny mother an adulterer and the father cold and distant. It kept a lot of all the stuff from that book that carried over to this day only thing I liked was the characters. But that book I wish it wasn’t written.

[@nathanchaffin6380]

@@driftingswordsmanzer very true. But Danny's origin feels so forced. None if it feels natural at all. BUT, that doesn't stop me from enjoying the character. Especially his friendship with Luke. Super best buds in comics.

[@driftingswordsmanzer]

@@nathanchaffin6380 I would say that his origin was of the time, mandated to the Kung fu craze. I’ve always liked his origin and see his origin very similar to snake eyes both are Americans brought in another life as outsiders accepted in and gives it reverence and respect. Iron fist started as revenge, but showed restraint from the lessons he learned as a child of Kung lun. They never let Danny forget he left Kung lun heck Orson Randall did the same lol. Iron fist and Luke is one of the best duos in comics to me so, I agree. 😁

[@nathanchaffin6380]

@@driftingswordsmanzer yah. All the stuff that was recon'd later with his training in Kung lun is great. What with the tournament and being trained by the thunder. But all the mess that was originally the base of his origin is just bad writing, even if it's trying to homage older Kung fu movies. It doesn't age well. It doesn't stand out or inform the character at all.

[@driftingswordsmanzer]

@@nathanchaffin6380 I can understand that. At the end of the day it’s just a basic revenge story. Not being rude just generally curious how would you have written it? Just a sum up, we’re both fans and I would love to know your take.

[@domw456]

Feeding the algorithm

[@carlosantonio7761]

Sending love after a week. Is it good or bad for the algorithm?

[@MWhaleK]

Now adays people would be attacking him 24-7 as a socialist/communist because he was/is a FDR Democrat and waaay to the left of pretty much anyone in government except maybe Bernie Sanders on many issues. Also Tigra and She-Hulk have pretty decent origins.

[@sorastitchi]

please upload an avatar for this channel, it bothers me so bad lol

[@Sicod79]

Spider-man. He creates himself and defines his own character.

[@C4rea]

I want to follow you guys on social media, but you don’t engage very often.