White Montage + OS V3 Updates from Yamaha Japan

[@Keyboardnut99]

I am seriously loving this update, especially the pattern sequencer hats off to Yamaha for this!

[@Tigerex966]

finally, after years of complaints, yamaha puts a proper sequencer on their workstation/synths, like they did before. i wish they fire the people who refused to have it om the montage and modx at launch. next time yamaha listen to your customers who actually use these daily above the marketing folks. you lost thosands of sales being stubborn and not giving users a proper sequencer earlier. your top synth customers do not want to be tied to a computer or ipad or cubase, they want a true all in one.

[@theaudioeng]

+1 ..... 👍🍻

[@ProckGnosis]

Thanks for covering this better than Yamaha did. Unfortunately on their part, the hype exceeded the announcements. But on the plus side, you got a trip to Tokyo which is a busy, wild, and fun place to visit!

[@av-uc4vx]

Dom, we love your enthousiasm and deep understanding of this very complex fantastic instrument! Adri from Holland

[@superultrathanksmom3845]

I want his job...

[@DomSigalas]

Thanks a lot Andrei! Rock on my friend!

[@Geoff1967]

OS v3 downloaded and installed! This update DOES wipe out all user data, so be sure to do a backup first. Love this update but I'd still like to see another synth engine added one day :) This awesome synth keeps getting better!!!

[@RayyMusik]

Thanks for the warning. This isn’t quite state-of-the-art; user data should be indepedent from the OS!

[@studioonetutorials]

Unbelievable. They were not able to make an updater that keeps user data? Very weak.

[@Geoff1967]

@@studioonetutorials The MONTAGE6/MONTAGE7/MONTAGE8 V3.00 Operating System Updater Readme file states: "- All User memory (Library data, User data, User sample and so on) will be initialized by this updater. Please make sure that you have saved all User data to a USB flash drive before performing this update." It's not a big deal to backup user data to a USB flash drive or computer and should be done anyway!

[@Geoff1967]

@@RayyMusik I'd say the Montage is very state-of -the-art. At 52 years old now, I remember quite well when I was younger having to open up my Solton Programmer 24 to swap out an EPROM chip to update the OS... (and frequently as there were many bugs and subsequent updates)

[@RayyMusik]

Geoff Toney My first synth was a MiniKorg 700S. I had to do NOTHING to update the OS - there was none. :D

[@synthanatomy]

Great update for the Montage. Enjoy your stay in Tokyo. It's a lovely city and a synth paradise :)

[@prasanthbadanayak8511]

Great update for the montage.enjoye your stay in Tokyo.it's a lovely city and a synth paradise please contact no give me sir Thq

[@benbowland]

@@prasanthbadanayak8511 Why did you copy his comment?

[@Tigerex966]

This saves yamaha lots of $$$$money on a full redesign, if they add user sampling in a year or two, they can go ten years without a redesign or price cut.

[@vampolascott36]

Dom knows this synth so well! His mastery of the Montage FM engine is jaw dropping. I wish I could download all his Montage knowledge directly into my brain without the tedious learning curve. I'm an analog guy, and my Montage has proven to be a digital mystery wrapped in an enigma. There's so much to learn here. Maybe if I watch enough of these videos, it will all rub off on me?

[@harrygats]

Nice ordering my white montage tomorrow. Do you guys think a new montage/flagship keyboard is coming anytime soon?

[@piotao]

DON, please do more yamaha montage tutorials!!! They are soooo much needed, and it's sooo nice to see your amazing skillset and to feel your real passion! PLEASE!!!

[@javiceres]

Yeah! Great! Specially the Pattern Sequencer !! Finally Thank you guys!!

[@boothbuster]

Awesome demonstrator btw, his videos on Cubase and WaveLab are excellent... down to earth but inspiring as well as educational!

[@DomSigalas]

EDub thank you for the nice words :)

[@boothbuster]

@@DomSigalas You're welcome, my friend - they are well-deserved! :)

[@Tigerex966]

now they just need to add aftertouch (modx)/breath control sounds next year that are aftertouch and breath controlled. montage and modx were made for expressive aftertouch-breath controlled sounds, can you even imagine how great they would be to play and sound and feel? for the next update though user sampling on the machine alone is the number one request.

[@SauvikRoy]

What a beauty! ❤️

[@KosmicKitchen]

That pattern sequencer featured already on the first Motif. It was way ahead of its time,. The sequencer is conceptually similar to Ableton Live. Yamaha dropped it in the Montage and now they seem to re-introduce it with the OS update because of popular demand. This is good news in case I need to replace my XF some day.

[@Jimbo386000]

When you said “I hope we don’t have any dogs near by” and then played that super high note, my dog went crazy. Hhaha

[@theaudioeng]

Yay ... an OS update from my MODX6 😎👍. Nice vid upload thanks!

[@Jauly]

Warning: Yamaha hid the fact that the mini filter is not part of the synthesis engine. It is only available as an FX and therefore it is NOT modulateable with an envelope. But you can make it self oscillate by twiddling the big blue super knob. Oh well.

[@TheEdwin73]

or you can modulate/automate it with a motion sequence lane, wich can act as a sort of fancy user envelope/lfo, and enhance it further with the (user drawable) curve type(and get crazy weird results), in the control assign screen, it makes up for the fact that the mini filter is in the effect section...it's strange that they did not just implement it in the normal filter section, as in the filter menu there are about 8 or 9 empty spaces left.

[@k-fountain154]

I had an ES, XS, & XF I’ve always enjoyed the standalone workstation Independance. I’m glad the Montage O.S. Has a sequencer like those have now

[@hakonsoreide]

Can the new LFO do 45 year cycles? That would be cool.

[@sliezsky]

Super video, thank you :)

[@ogasi1798]

the beast gets better

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

What's the difference between this and 7?

[@mattsynth]

The best workstation in years just got better. Bravo Yamaha.

[@keekeefries6298]

Yes but where is the step sequencer?...

[@WARDISWARD]

05:14 , there is really audible stepping in the filter sweep ..and I don't think these are the harmonic series because the resonance is not high enough

[@Strages_Powers]

Nick, do you think this thing sounds good?

[@ram-4]

Where can I get that CP80 shirt? 😁 (I’m serious)

[@Robert44444444]

Yes!… I've been a lover of the REAL CP series for 30+ years… have a CP-70M and a CP-60M… would love to have that tee shirt!

[@botany500kojak]

I hope you are going to visit Five G in Tokyo with the camera and do a tour of their synths.

[@sonicstate]

yep....

[@Stakkeroid]

What an awesome place. Spent half an hour there this summer, wish I had the time for half a day... A bit hard to find, but Apple Maps shows the precise location luckily. (Hidden inside, no storefront.)

[@BaymondRell]

Montage or new Fantom?.......and I like the white.

[@E-MOTION-MUSIC]

Have the fantom and love it but honestly white montage is on the way. They seem to offer a different enough sound scape to do so and I am excited to have the contrast of the two

[@therealskinflutes]

Great Workstation!

[@dmitriiturchenkov3075]

have request. Midi edit on the synth and 16 channels. And also, for the drums, sometime you wanna shift a bit the snare or something else, could you add delay or clock for the each note of drum instrument and the same one for the any arpeggio of any instrument

[@gpr4eva]

Idk man dat new Fantom looking real wavy with that 1.5 update... Yamaha better do something unique by the summer

[@RonaldRademaker]

Great update when does version 2.0 Come out for modx?

[@elissitdesign]

Ronald Rademaker They say at the end of the video, today.

[@RonaldRademaker]

I found this : MONTAGE OS v3.0 is expected to be available ‘very soon’, with MODX OS v2.0 following in late October

[@ramanahallisiddesh9833]

Sir Price???

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

For the money, they should have a sequencer.. Competition for the new Roland Fantom

[@kentxx12]

You must buy a new synt when you are in Japan Nick ;)

[@thespectator2976]

they should have given the XS and XF owners some fun aswell.......

[@Tigerex966]

oh man they would have loyalty for life if they did, and they should because the sounds can be used on the new synths. what i want is a montage/modx collection for the motif xf, especially sounds with fm that can be controlled by the controllers and pedals.

[@74unicorn]

Still no VST editor ?

[@fundementalroast7002]

Absolute Joke. If Yamaha added a proper VST editor and a Virtual Analog engine this would make the board so much more attractive.

[@tuneunleashed]

Fundemental Roast hahah they will they will add a VST editor soon. The good thing about a Montage it’s that it’s updatable. So they can make some improvements for sure.

[@kokykoky6131]

Very good piano,

[@adamfothergill8162]

RCM or sample based FM on V4 perhaps? :)

[@Johnsicadda2433]

I have a modx 7 , very tough to know in detail , got it , but scene and rhythm should be in different switched like 3 intros , 4 patterns, 3 ending , very confusing, I have a psr sx 900 also it's the best to me personally , lot of variations and very easy to use , inbuilt speakers , if it had more faders and 8 knobs , it will be the best synth ever , modx or montage is mainly for sound engineering people , best sounds but , overall , we want to perform for home or small occasions which has to be user friendly.

[@squeakD]

I thought the original Montage had a basic 16 trk sequencer.

[@letMeSayThatInIrish]

It did, if you but _/*BASIC*/_ in bold, italic and upper-case and then underscore it.

[@gpr4eva]

Super super super basic! So basic it didn't really count as a sequencer. This is much better

[@thomascook2535]

Yamaha is late providing the sequencer man but still thanks for the effort....... Roland new Fantom sequencer already bad ass....... and easy and so simple to work. Already order the Fantom.

[@MrBitterman75]

Hi Thomas Cook, I hear you went bankrupt yesterday. Good luck recovering and have fun with your Fantom.

[@thomascook2535]

@@MrBitterman75 I am happy to get bankrupt. Mean while checkout this link below. You will gooo in heaven. She did that all alone. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHbPaop3mNdkhK8

[@boothbuster]

Now if only they could write Fantom on this wonderful sounding Montage (which is the only workstation to really bend my ear from my Kronos at all), then I’d be all over a “Fantom” too. :) seriously, why does the Roland just sound so thin and like a few generations behind on many of its sounds? I love its design otherwise. Just not convinced on sounds. Whereas listening to this ‘sells’ me.

[@boothbuster]

thomas cook that is a good demo though thanks for sharing, the sounds on the outdo song were great... I imagine some of this is due to synthesized sounds vs sampled. I just don’t know how good the sampled libraries are on Roland. Even in the old days they sounds a bit flat/phony. Also why the heck didn’t they include all the Aira engines, like ACB for drums and Tb-3 emulation? Now that would have made sense and been a killer flagship!

[@thomascook2535]

@@boothbuster I had a lil demo and ordered the Fantom coz also heard many demo on KZbin and other social site and I liked the sounds and other new stuff. If I am unhappy after I give a try on it. I will surely returned it. I loved the sequencer, I can connect extermal gears, Daw control mode as well and simultaneously I can use internal fantom soundsalso , plus hammer keys which is on Roland 2000 with after touch, modeless concept, ease of use, not much menu diving for small things, hands on control for sythn and so much more.... and plus roland said they will more feature to it. So why not to give try to it and I must share the sounds I heard in many demo on youtube and other site for example drums groove and synth and bass lines etc they match very close to the mainstream and underground music and thats very important for me.

[@serg3123]

Good for hospital ambulance running scary out of corona victim's. Bring this keyboard back to 1980s, it be ok then

[@cardoman3986]

Why is Jared Leto playing for Nick?

[@pauloyoshizaki2103]

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[@pauloyoshizaki2103]

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[@WARDISWARD]

What a shameYamaha flew nick over to japan for what is basically a new white montage and an o.s. update .

[@sonicstate]

In terms of releases sure, but there's a bunch more stuff to come

[@WARDISWARD]

@@sonicstate Do you mean there is more to come from Yamaha , or sonic state content ?

[@Tigerex966]

not for nick

[@fincorrigan7139]

He's only there for the Rugby

[@studioonetutorials]

Very disappointing update for live players. 9:20 about the effects: "Can you feed audio in via USB?" - "You can do it using the inputs." The true message is: You can't do it with USB audio. The really interesting things for keyboard players in a band comes after 14:22.

[@skriglangka]

You have 5 stereo channels on the USB host connection to the computer and you can play .wav files from a usb flash drive. What else do you need?

[@Wulfcry]

Sound exactly like a cs80.

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

Sounds like a lot of features 'borrowed' from the Solaris ....

[@grproteus]

Still way too heavy and big :( The MODX had it better: lighter and smaller. Can we have a MODX with the Montage DACs and performance select buttons? No worries if it is at the same price point as Montage, as long as it is light, small and full featured.

[@RayyMusik]

And aftertouch; this is the greatest drawback of the MODX.

[@tuneunleashed]

Rayy‘s Musikladen guys you would have to buy a Montage 8 I’m sorry but it is what it is. It’s heavy cause it’s durable built like a tank. Parts are easily replaceable if you mess up the chassis like a bum or something or a hole in the metal by dropping it you can replace it easily but with the modx it isn’t replaceable but you could buy another modx cause it’s that cheap

[@grproteus]

@@tuneunleashed it definitely "is not what it is". Between MODX and Montage, MODX is the better instrument for most live gigs: It's lighter, more compact and has the same sound. It is the modern DX7. They definitely can (and should, imho) provide an almost as compact instrument with better DACs and a higher price point. As it is, you really don't have any reason to buy the montage8. You buy a MODX6 and a modx8 for almost the same amount of money.

[@tuneunleashed]

Prot Eus True but the reason why I got the montage 8 instead it’s just overall better. Pure Analog Circuit which the MODX doesn’t have 8 Faders it’s basically the MODX on steroids, more layers on the Montage Than the MODX better action keys it feels better to play and I do take the montage to gigs with a case that has wheels on them. I take it to the bus, the train the car and looks just like new till this day it’s not that hard lol. That’s If you have a case that has wheels on them. But you have a point MODX is easier to install but if you want also a light board with good action go for a Nord Stage 3 or go for a Yamaha CP 88 or 73 its nice. Yes the montage and modx are the exact same sounds but not the exact same outputs

[@grproteus]

@@tuneunleashed I understand that since you bought montage, you don't want buyer's remorse, but what I'm saying is: a MODX with 8 faders, preset selection buttons and montage DACs would sell like hotcakes, even if it was priced 500 bucks higher than MODX. As it is, for live gigs MODX is better and for the studio you have VSTs and proper sequencers. I think this is the conclusion to this thread, thanks.

[@shookstylez]

Big disappointment from Yamaha. They haven't listened at all to the ideascale. When will they make a new analog CS-80 reissue. We were all waiting for this, and they come up with a color update and some firmware updates. They are going back to the 90's with this one! I mean, I appreciate his enthusiast in 'mimicking' a CS-80 or analog synth, but this is not what musicians want these days.

[@mattsynth]

Not many people would be able to afford a reissue CS80 so you will never see that happen. Try Arturia VST it sounds awesome.

[@vegeta897]

Marcusmiller A large company providing feature updates to their products is never a disappointment. Too often we see products abandoned just after release.

[@SPAZZOID100]

mattsynth Behringer!!

[@nickyalin4075]

🙂✌👍

[@mattkaz9604]

Nick looks increasingly bored and irritated in these product interviews. He talks over people. I think he's much happier being given the synth and making a video alone.

[@mickeythompson9537]

_I'm_ always much happier when Nick is doing the review.

[@Tigerex966]

he thinks he is competing, but seriously most people are better with less of a crowd.

Eh pá façam demonstração com musicas já existentes. Isto torna-se enfadonho . Vocês não tocam porra nenhuma.

[@vondragonnoggin]

Boring. Why can't Yamaha release something new, crippled, limited, and uninspiring? Like Roland did with the new Fantom.....

[@mattsynth]

The new Roland Fantom took 10 years to release after the Fantom G.

[@Bagatellamusic]

OMG... synths are starting to sound as terrible as in the early 90s again...

[@issiewizzie]

Starting to sound like vst

[@Jason75913]

Ah yes, tasteless all-white, to accompany all the tasteless all-black synths here and there. I think the original color scheme was fine at hitting the better middle ground.

[@phranquepeasant5688]

Dom, love your playing. And your English is good enough. But it's baSically, not baZically. I tell you this, because you use this word A LOT. Not only in this video, but also at Doctor Mix. 😁

[@TimmyTheSnail]

It looks so cheap in white 😂😂😂

[@shookstylez]

is that filter Stepping at 5:35? Wow. How embarrassing!

[@tonyjones6256]

I thought that was the resonance kicking in

[@LFOVCF]

No, its harmonic overtones scrolling through. Analogue does this too. If you want stepping, try the Roland/SE boutique. Resonance steps like a pig, sounds as bad as my A-Station, and that's 20 years old (still great though)

[@Kittyspit562]

did anyone else hear that horrible latter filter “emulation” that was stepped...?

[@DomSigalas]

What Dirk said. Exactly. The filter is super smooth

[@myvoice983]

Prize yamaha kibord

[@SPAZZOID100]

Boring.

[@UnknownHumanoid]

A tool that does a lot of things and sounds like shit! When these companies will invest in the tone? I preffer something simple that sounds badass rather than something that does it all and sounds like shit.

[@RapierGold]

The yamaha guy doesn't know what he's talking about