White Nights Watercolour Review, Tubes and Pans St Petersburg paints

[@inchturesoulboyktf7873]

Air bubbles sometimes present as White Knights pans are filled by liquid pouring in the same way as Sennelier paints are. The paints in the pans are exactly the same as paint in the tubes which is why they rewet excellently. Most other manufactures make the pan paint to a different (stiffer) recipe from their tube paints, these are then formed by machine into long strips which are then cut into pan sizes and inserted into pans. White Knights are fantastic paints.

[@colourwheel5703]

Great review. I ordered them on Amazon. Set of 24 10 ml tubes for $ 102 Canadian. ( our prices are much higher than the U.S.) Greetings from 🇨🇦 Your work is beautiful.

[@H0n0looloo]

I am in love with the painting of the small house by the woods with the natural colored sky on the back. It is just lovely!

[@Erdhenne]

You spoke so softly I doze off and had to start the whole video again. xD But I know too which person I will come if I can't calm down. Thank you for that. ^^ I am really glad for KZbinrs that aren't totally hyper. Also your drawings are wonderful. ;w;

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

I'm pleased the video helped you, even if it was to help you sleep, its all good :)

[@gorway7]

Me too - Not knocking Smoothie, I'v just got to that age in life where a cup of tea and a soft relaxing voice and I'm away with the fairies.

[@teresa6775]

Even the art you consider "ruined" I consider a great picture!!! Seriously wish I had started watching you when I was 10, so I''d have enough time to learn all I could from you !!!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks Teresa, that's very kind, I hope you learning plenty on patreon , there's lot more time to catch up :)

[@christianmccann7884]

I find these are great paints and great value, artists quality watercolour s at a low price .. I bought the 36 pan set for around 75 euros including shipping I find these are perfect for beginners who want to try watercolour without spending too much money .. I prefer these paints too Windsor & Newton artist paints although I usually use Rembrandt & schminke .. I've heard other artists saying these paints were kind of gritty/sandy I didn't have that problem in the 36pan set .. although I did find a few little air holes in the paint pans but it wasn't a problem .. I liked your review keep up the good work!!!

[@2112Dahlia]

Excellent review. I totally agree with what you say about the paints "competing with each other" when mixing, that's the impression they give. Thank you for the tip about what you do with the black paint, that is wonderful advice that I will definitely use. I did too, experience the air bubbles that you mention on my madder lake red light, which is one of my favorite colors. Thank you very much for the thorough review, it has been very interesting to know your thoughts and experiences with this paint!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+2112Dahlia Thank you Dahlia, the white Nights have definitely had a positive effect on my watercolour painting and have earned their place in my watercolour kit, I'm looking forward to trying more colours from the range. Thank you for your kind words, much appreciated.

[@etherealsundancer6653]

I absolutely love this brand 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@puffyjo]

the one you said that was too dark looks like very stormy day its gorgeous ( the one with the castel )

[@hlk01]

Thank you for the very helpful review. I ordered some individual pans from the UK site, rather than have colours chosen for me via the set. Very impressed so far. I love the green, the Indian gold and the cerulean so far but tbh they are all lovely. The ones I chose were all single pigments bar the yellow ochre. Will probably build a travel set using Hannemuhle postcard tin I have knocking about. Really, really good value. 👍🏻

[@bettyh1100]

I’m in Canada and I buy them in tubes or pans from Jackson’s in the UK.

[@ajwspjs2]

You did a good job with this. Sometimes when an artist is doing a review they go quite overboard with the brands they started out with or prefer because the new paints they are trying always are compared to their favorites and aren't necessarily judged on their own merit, and a lot of the reasons why the colors come out lacking in some way is somewhat subjective; plus, half the time they compare it to a brand I can't afford. I like when artists talk about the pallet they're reviewing and the difficulties or plusses with the paints themselves...but not necessarily wholly in comparison to another brand while in the process. When you talk about the particulars of the paints themselves, I try to get an idea of if I would like that characteristic.

[@TerrieJohnson731]

I believe I read, that their pouring process and the honey might account for some air,. I just got the 36, set, and do not see myself needing any better quality of watercolors as a hobbyist.I find that 2 of my colors have a strange, jelly like consistency, and are a bit weak in pigment, but 2 out of 36 isnt bad. Yes I agree they are very different, but I enjoy them. The Russian Green is one of my favorites, and I will always re-order!

[@1827handmade]

How do the tubes dry in pans? Similar to the actual pans? Thanks for this video!

[@pjpony1234]

Can't get the tubes in the US either. The only supplier here is the Society of Artists(?). I just ordered a 24 pan set and am anxiously awaiting their arrival. I've heard such good things about this paint. I've been collecting various brands. My latest was Sennelier, which I adore.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Good to hear you bought a set, I'm sure you will like them, although one or two of the colors are not very lightfast , they are still a nice set, here's a link to a video i made showing the results of a lightfast test I done , you may find it interesting,kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Rqoeeo6t-jLc

[@aimeelindell]

Your paintings are fantastic! The way you introduced them into the video, I was expecting some sort of quick sketch or loose work and then you present these gorgeous landscapes! Fantastic job, this is the first video of yours that I've seen and I think that if you consider those to have gone a little off, I can't wait to see what you think is right! Anyway, thank you for the review because I happen to have just ordered the 24 set on a whim to justify a good deal on shipping and I feel very excited to get them now!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thank you Amiee, I have a few watercolor painting demos on youtube, some went well, others not so well, its the nature of watercolor I guess, that's my excuse anyway lol, I'm sure you will enjoy the White nights paints, personally i think they are superb, one or two of the colors are not so light-fast but still great paints at a great price, here's a link to a light fast test I done a while ago, maybe of interest to you, kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Rqoeeo6t-jLc

[@vani519]

Just for information: the White nights come in metal tins now! As well as the sonnet (the student grade version). 😉

[@petkaanitabielert1179]

I have a set of 24 colors and I love it! I bought it with a metall box. The paints stain even that. Your tip with the toothpaste helped a bit.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Petka Anita Bielert Maybe the results vary with different brands of toothpaste, my palette smells minty fresh now:)

[@petkaanitabielert1179]

smoothie77 hehe. My hands now too. And my little mouse don´t recognices me anymore.

[@jannievennius]

On the dutch website it say's : "volgende kleuren bevatten zware metalen (cadmium- of Kobaltpigmenten): cadmiumgeel medium, cadmiumrood licht, cadmiumgeel citroen, cadmiumoranje, cobaltblauw" = "The next colors have heavy metals : cadmium yellow medium; cadmium red light; Cadmium yellow lemon; cadmium orange, and cobaltblue"

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks for the info Jannie, much appreciated.

[@jannievennius]

After your review I ordered a 24-set pans. Hopefully it arrives tomorrow :-).

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Great news Jannie! I hope you enjoy them, I'm sure you will, they are superb.

[@jannievennius]

Thank you !

[@alexserra9605]

I liked the sky that you said was ruined I thought that painting was beautiful actually...maybe it looks different on camera?

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks Alex, It looked fairly similar on camera, I just thought it looked a bit too much, too heavy, but I'm glad you like it, thanks for the kind words!

[@minakshi005]

Awesome review 👍

[@mariakellner2221]

back again you mentioned you liked the yellow ochre it has 2 pigments in this one it's usually py43,they added a cool yellow py1,for any one that may want to try the mix. I downloaded their color chart now I have most of the brands,i find color charts great I can see if the pigment is staining,transparent,opaque,granulating,i just like to know.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Maria Kellner Thank you Maria for sharing this useful info with us, you contribution here on youtube is very much appreciated, I have learnt lots from your comments, I had suspected the yellow ochre had another yellow in the mix, I originally thought Naples yellow-ish, but now I know, I can add a cool yellow to W&N yellow ochre and get the same mix, understanding the colour numbers is a much better way of looking at the pigments than relying on colour names, Maria you are such an asset to the art community, thanks for kindly sharing your knowledge with us. everyone please take a look at Maria's watercolour website, her paintings are incredible, she has invented a new product called colour previewers, check them out at www.marylkaart.com

[@mariakellner2221]

whoops! the yellow is py 150 transparent yellow,i find it a beautiful vibrant yellow, good mixer with blues to make green it's also used for a quinacridone gold ,with burnt orange pr 206 and permanent rose pv19, Daniel Smith is the only brand that have the original .my tablet keeps trying to auto correct ,glad you find my thoughts helpful,for me it's great to share,i have learnt so much more since watching KZbin, never thought to look up art in it ,such a pleasant surprise so much there.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Maria Kellner That explains why I find the White Nights yellow ochre so nice for skies, I didn't like it at first, I thought it was under pigmented compared to W&N but the addition of transparent yellow has gave it a lovely transparent glow, I bet if I mixed it with my usual foliage green mix(hookers green+yellow ochre) it would look great, more transparent for pencil and wash, these colours have really opened up a new way of thinking about the way I mix colour:)

[@puffyjo]

those reds are great for mixing , a little goes a long way. I love granulation.

[@terencemolloy1827]

Make sure you keep the earth tones moist as some of the browns have a tendency to go rock hard in the pans. Tubes used to be available in The UK but for some reason you can't get them now. I had a few big 18 ml tubes.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks for the info, much appreciated!

[@anneledgerwood1290]

I love White Nights. A little goes a long way. Colour is subjective but i love them.cant say it too often. They were described to me as fruity before i bought them. Mine is a set of full pan and previously id found half pans disappointing to paint with. Therefore id used tubes for a number of years. I now use them. White Nights , with tube paints and see no difference.

[@derickchatfield]

Hi Smoothie Great review, I bought the 24 full pan set about two years a go, and only used them once, as you say, they are a little strange. Now after your review, I have learnt a lot of what to expect, so will definitely give them another try.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Derick Chatfield Hi Derick, they are definitely worth another try even if they are a little strange, I think they just take some getting use to, especially after using the same manufactures paint for so long, Maria kellner has just provided some very useful info (3 comments) here in the comments section,

[@wakeupuk3860]

At last a real Artist who knows what they are talking about, in a detail and relevant manner as oppose some hyper air head who has not thought about what they are going to say and rambles on about them selves. After a year of extensive painting, running out of my DS and W&N paints and can't afford to replace them, so have recently purchased the 24 set and your video was most illuminating and helpful. You mention you would be happy to use them with your W&N paints, would really appreciate a video of this quality on recommended mixes especially to improve the granulation effect of White Nights.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

I don't know about "real artist" but thanks Dave its much appreciated, the white nights work nicely with W&N, Cotman, and other brands I've tried, the thing is (as mentioned in the video) some colours can be very hard to mix due to the high pigment load of white nights, they can easily over power other colours, so mixing can take some getting used to, I haven't noticed any adverse effects with granulation, although some of the earth pigment are quite granulating, granulation isn't something i try for in my work,so couldn't really advise on that .

[@emson263]

Fantastic detailed review Smoothie I hope that You will make more of them in the future great work !

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Kryptonim Zbychu Thanks, glad you liked it, I'm sure I will make more review videos in the future, thanks for commenting.

[@mariakellner2221]

Another great color from W&n gold ochre py 42 .

[@ayapeaches8987]

When I rubbed it, the pigment came off, was it supposed to be like that? Mine came from a tube.

[@43110s]

Super great review! Great video! And amazing painitings, they are really amazing. The one with the green fields and dramatic sky, which you said had gone wrong - sky like that I often saw in the place where I grew up as a child! I cannot wait to be able to buy White Nights watercolours. I have wanted them for so long, but in the local art shop here, they are insanely expensive! I am glad I found you channel, here I will find everything I need to know about painting with watercolours, I think! Thank you! I subscribed! : ) ^..^ Oh, and you voice is so relaxing and calm, really nice to listen to! : )

[@1ArtfulBodger]

Hey Smoothie, a good review. I've got a collection of White Nights. Really good value paint but I changed out the Yellow Ochre for Raw Sienna, Black for Sepia and added Golden Deep which is an 'earth like orange. Keep the videos coming, it's nice to find a bit of quality on KZbin! All the best.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Lee Barnes Thanks Lee, I have been looking at the white nights golden, it looks a nice and useful colour for landscapes, I've decided I'm going to get a larger set of 36 colours to play around with and try all the new colours out to design a new 12-14 colour palette, I think the colours you suggest may end up being part of the new line up.

[@puffyjo]

that's what you call "mucking about " the last painting is gorgeous. I'd give my eye teeth to be able to paint like that . its simply beautiful . thanks for the review. are the "cadmium" colors are they only dangerous when wet and or dry as well ? how dangerous are they?

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks for the kind words:) I don't think it matters if the cadmiums are wet or dry, just try to avoid getting it on your hands and touching your mouth, once cadmium enters the body through ingestion or absorption is when it can become harmful, so if you do get some on your hands just wipe it off before it has time to soak in, I think you have to become exposed to a lot of it before any problems arise,

[@puffyjo]

ok good to know thank you

[@jemimahchua5539]

Assuming that you've given your eye and teeth to paint like that, how can you paint when you have no eyes already :/

[@lordoftheflings]

have you tried the Dr. Ph. Martin Hydrus water colors?

[@tonygreen971]

Hi Smoothie, great review, very detailed. I am pleased that on the whole you are as satisfied with these watercolours as I am. As I don't own W&N full pans I had no idea that they were marginally smaller in size, I only have the W&N half pans and they are bigger than those! The black by the way is great when you are painting the universe, if you are doing a galaxy for instance where you really want it black out there! I recently did a painting of the Star Trek Enterprise and I needed a black sky behind it and I didn't want to use black paper, worked a treat. I have the 36 whole pan set and I have found that the violet in that set is also a very strong colour and stains a lot too, but it is not really a colour I would use on its own I would prefer to mix it myself from other colours. The palette with the 36 set has an additional fold out mixing palette which is very useful. In the studio I tend to use a porcelain palette so staining is not an issue for me. I truly love these watercolours and I get on with them very well. I particularly like how easily the paint picks up from the pan and how easily they mix. Like you I agree that they are certainly unbeatable for price and allow everyone to experience artist quality without breaking the bank to do it. Thanks for the review, it was worth the wait mate.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Tony Green Hi Tony, thanks for commenting, I have been looking at the 36 set, the large palette area is a big plus for me, I think that's the one I will eventually get, normally I use a limited 12 colour palette, but I'm so delighted with these paints I want to try more of their vibrant colours, the sad thing is...I saw white Nights watercolours for sale on line several years ago, I thought that because they were so inexpensive they were probably rubbish, BIG mistake! I'm so glad I recently took the plunge and bought a set. Thanks for the suggestion for an additional use for the black paint, its good to hear it has more uses than just staining palettes :)

[@mariakellner2221]

+smoothie77 The black because it's a mix of staining colours It can get to a very transparent dark dark with less layers ,staining colors blocks the light of the paper ,tube blacks don't do this,they can look chalky.

[@mariakellner2221]

+smoothie77 Another idea that may be useful if you want to section off your palette I have used blue tack to make channels to section it or stop pigment from overflowing in an area. A few years ago I bought a book of all available pigments ,it's been my paint bible book, I can read up all the different characteristics of each pigment,that happened because every workshop I attended every artist had their own list of colors ,a long story short I found I had the colours by the pigment number and along the way I memorized most of pigments.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Maria Kellner I have to say the black is slowly winning me over, I was experimenting with colour mixes and found this black a very good mixer with other colours, and as you mention, the transparency of the pigment makes it good for glazing if tinted with another transparent pigment, umm..maybe more useful than I thought.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Maria Kellner Oh yeah, blue tack, that's a great idea! thanks for another great tip Maria, its much appreciated, I had a look at the pigment numbers on the W&N site, I wanted to see what (Russian) green PG8, and red ochre PR102 were, couldn't find the same numbers, I found almost the same, but just 1 digit difference, have you any info on these pigment numbers? your way of memorizing all those numbers is brilliant, it must of took ages to do that, thanks Maria.

[@c.s.johnson7691]

Very nicely done and informitive, so much better than watching someone painting a color chart.

[@perkeleensilakat476]

In Finland you can find white night individual pans in every art shop for about a 2,5e ans I highly recommend them

[@mukulakivi_creates]

Probably because we're neighbours

[@GregorysMode]

I have just bought the White Nights 36 set, I'm waiting for them to arrive while I'm watching your review. I really, really enjoy your videos and I also bought the Dixon Ticonderoga pencil on your review and was not disappointed. Love your paintings too. Tar Smoothie =o)

[@geslinam9703]

I have two of the “sequel” sets, whatever that means, 24 pans each. I don’t use them that often, but find the colors are more vibrant and/or opaque than my other watercolors. True that they are different…If I really, really water them down, they are ok, but I think that some of the colors get a little dull when they dry. I also had an issue with one of my sets, some of the wrapping that each pan comes in got stuck in the pigment, maybe they were wrapped when the pigment was still too wet? This resulted in a few of the pans still having bits of the foiled paper stuck in them. I am still able to use them, but it’s annoying.

[@neikaplay]

Nice paintings. I have the 36 palette and that one has the extra mixing tray at the bottom similar to the large Cotman palette set. White Nights and Mission Gold were the only affordable one for me to get into better quality paints. They are very vivid and very easy to use with each paint having its own characteristic and easily rewetted. They do stain the palette though. I hear that an eraser takes the stains off.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks for commenting, its also been mentioned in the comments that toothpaste or a magic eraser sponge works, I have tried both and they work great, I never used Mission Gold watercolour, I will look up a few reviews on youtube and check them out.

[@Adriana-eo9dx]

I wanted to stop by again to say I found a vid from nevskaya that shows ladies spooning in the paint in the pans with a palette knife. I can see how you can get a huge bubble but for the most part seems safe

[@puffyjo]

I have the Sonnet full pans 24 colors that are the student quality of these and I think they are fantastic. they never muddy they are strong colors. and not chalky at all and are a bit cheaper than these. I've done mixing and the colors are just amazing. I also have the cottman pan paints and they are very chalky , I was totally disapointed. the Sonnets are way better. and yes you can only get them from Russia. I am a huge fan of daler and rowney pan paints I have two sets , never ever chalky and the colors are lovely . my new home palet now consists of the 24 sonnets and the 12 half pans that fit perfectly in my 24 full pan metal tin box.

[@puffyjo]

just looked up the pigments for these 2 sets they are very very similar and some are exact. I was surprised to see that all but 3 colors in the Sonnets are single pigments.

[@yee6818]

I found them on a romanian website!

[@rikardogibola1312]

White Nights now supply a large range of colours in tubes.

[@2lmdi]

The W&N pan doesn't go straight down. Is the paint cake narrowed as it goes down also? In other words smaller at the bottom?

[@BuntstiftKunst]

Hey, you are reading my mind. I do have a quite expensive water color by the brand Schmincke. I nearly never use it because I am beginner in water color. So, yes tit should be a better idea to buy cheap one and just start a couple of small paintings.. Ones I bought really cheap acrylic paint in a discounter. The third painting I created with them was on a Pizza box and I still love it!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

A Pizza box! :) that's great, I love to here stories like that, it just goes to prove we don't need to spend a fortune to have fun and create art, I hope you ate the Pizza first! or that would be a waste :). If you are looking for good quality watercolour to start with, then I do highly recommend White nights. A couple of weeks ago I bought a replacement Winsor & Newton palette box on ebay to replace my old one, it was nearly new and I assumed the 12 pans of paint were the original Winsor & Newton paints... to my pleasant surprise the bottom of the pans were embossed with the Schmincke brand name, so I contacted the seller, he confirmed they were Schmincke Horadam artist watercolour, I never used them before and i'm really looking forward to trying them... but not on a Pizza box haha :)

[@BuntstiftKunst]

Thats funny, right?! It was my art teacher (just a normal art school for hobby artists), he stored big boxes he coul cut into smaller pieces and cardboards in his atelier and gave them to knew students. I just wanted to try acrylic painting so I had no canvas. And I didn´t feel any pressure because I had nothing to loose... And actually I prefered it much more than painting on canvas, it was far too grainy and with 10 Euro each canvas far too expensive for me! If I could post my frog drawing I would, but I think its not possible on KZbin. I will try it on google plus!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

That's so true, as soon as we are not worried about the cost of the materials we tend to be free and uninhibited and it shows in our work, some of my favourite pictures are done using very cheap materials, I would love to see your frog drawing, it should be possible on G+.

[@BuntstiftKunst]

I shared it in Google plus. Hope you`ll find it. I don´ see it on my profile. I don´t like google plus much, I find it complicated..

[@jakepeters4370]

I'm curious about what you say at around 19 minutes into this video, about reusing a failed painting by covering it over with black pigment and then making a new image with coloured pencils. Can you elaborate on this? Have a I missed a video where you discuss this interesting idea?

[@patkelly275]

Thanks, very detailed review. I've heard butter or olive oil remove stains.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Pat Kelly Thanks Pat, not heard about butter or olive oil removing stains before, I like toothpaste it works well , and leaves the palette smelling minty fresh :)

[@patkelly275]

Ha ha can't beat that!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Pat Kelly :-)

[@KHGlass]

Or, if you are on a time crunch, a white eraser works just as thoroughly.

[@mariakellner2221]

Hi smoothie, i don't have this brand,but I do have a huge amount of pigments,2 ladies in my art group use them ,they are highly pigment for the price well worth a try,i went to their Web site and looked at the pigment chart which I can decipher the pigments use some are very staining such as the neutral black it's made from 3 pigments one being pthalo blue very staining,with removing from the palette ,i have also tried a fine abrasive cleaner used for kitchen sink,thank for the mention,tfs

[@mariakellner2221]

The black is similar to what I use and it's transparent,pthalo green pg7 perm.alizarine crimson,little pthalo blue pb15 all straining, i mainly go by pigment numbers rather than names every brands call their pigment by different names which many find frustrating and it is one of the reasons I ended up with so many pigments, that's before I learnt to look at pigment numbers ,many brands didn't list them on the tube now all the info is there.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Maria Kellner Thanks for providing us with this info Maria, I can see now why the black is so staining. everyone please take a look at Maria's watercolour website, her paintings are incredible, she has invented a new product called colour previewers, check them out at www.marylkaart.com

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+smoothie77 I forgot to mention... some of the pigments contain honey as well as gum Arabic, might be why they feel a little strange? everyone please take a look at Maria's watercolour website, her paintings are incredible, she has invented a new product called colour previewers, check them out at www.marylkaart.com

[@MrAdrianaangel]

In your next video, pull out your brush, streak one color of White Nights alongside one color of Windsor Newton so that we can see which one is better.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks for the suggestion, very soon I will be making a video showing the results of a W&N and White nights lightfast test, the video will show painted colour charts from both manufactures, so it will be possible to see the quality of the pigments side by side, i hope that helps,

[@amberallen9287]

Do you find the tubes to be different paint then the pans?

[@4740rocky]

You can get the tube colour set from the SAA

[@poojameshram8345]

Are tubes better than Pans in terms of vibrancy?

[@gorway7]

I see the Black listed as "Neutral Black" (PB15:1, PBk7, PR187) - Could that be like Neutral tint? - It's not a standard Carbon based Ivory or Lamp Black. My Sennelier Paynes Grey leaves a similar stain, Must be the Phthalo pigment in it. The only Lightfast issue I know of is unfortunately that lovely Russian Green or in some sets it's just called Green. It uses PG8 (nitroso iron complex) according to Handprint.com and is rated at only marginally lightfast but it is a lovely colour.

[@deanitoff]

So weird I ordered some of these off eBay yesterday! It's the first set of paints I've bought and wanted to get some decent ones and another review I watched recommended them. Then I get an email today saying you had reviewed them! Haha can't wait to give them a go! 👍 by the way that one you painted over looks amazing

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+deanitoff You certainly made a good choice for your first set of paints, I'm really enjoying using mine, and I'm sure you will too, they are very strongly pigmented, so take some getting use to, but wow they are good, thanks for commenting.

[@ariannerojas2084]

May i know the shelf life of the paints in tube?

[@dcat5817]

Hi Smoothie! Great review! Looking for an elaboration on something tho- You say that these watercolors are toxic, and suggest to use them how you would use any other professional watercolor paint? I've been painting for a few years now with student kits, and i've decided to get myself an artist quality set- and i was just curious- How should i discard the water? Also i tend to get paint on my hands- should i wear gloves while using? Thanks! :D

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Hi D cat, thanks for the question, I discard the dirty water in the sink and rinse it through, If you're getting lots of paint on your hands particularly cadmium's and cobalt's it might be wise to wear gloves, a lot of artist don't bother and are just careful not to get paint on their skin, or wash your hands when you have finished painting.

[@carolblyth5854]

Cadmium is one of the most poisonous metals known...especially important to wear a mask if doing splatter !

[@sararahman9466]

thank you so much for this video I have been waiting to buy the white nights paints for ages and am watching every single review as this is the first good watercolour set I will get I used like 1 pound watercolours before. also buying the Russian watercolours without the box is so much cheaper

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+sara rahman Thanks Sara, I'm sure you will be delighted with White Nights if you've been using £1 watercolours previously, thanks for the comment.

[@sararahman9466]

+smoothie77 Haha I cant contain my happiness thanks for the video🙈

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+sara rahman :-))

[@ianjackson5834]

thanks for all that great info. will look into them.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

My pleasure, thanks for commenting, i'm sure you will like them they are superb paints

[@mukulakivi_creates]

I'd say that the white nights full pans are smaller because the are made in Europe

[@smitz001]

I think they're called yarka st Petersburg in the states.

[@Erdhenne]

From what I understood Yarka and White Knights are from the same bigger company somehow but not the same colors. And Sonnet are the student grade.

[@CarolBittencourt]

Hi Smoothie, I just found your channel and I am really impressed by your talent. This review was really helpful! I received my set 2 days ago and Icould not wait to try it. I found that the plastic box is not too good, so I will buy a metal box for my paints. Have you purchased a new box as well? If yes, which one? :)

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Hi Carol, Thanks for the nice comment, I haven't bought a new box for the paints, what I tend to do is use them with a plastic tray for more mixing area or I sometimes use them along side my old Winsor and Newton 12 whole pan box, if I do buy a new box, I think I would go for the light weight metal box that can be bought empty from most art shops, Jackson's sell there own branded version of these at a reasonable price...might be worth checking out:)

[@CarolBittencourt]

It's mostly the plastic that sits just a bit over the sides of the pans that is irritating me. I thought about purchasing a simple metal box for watercolour pans. I am used to Schmincke and this is probably why I am finding it hard to adjust to this plastic box. :) I live in Denmark so ordering from Jackson's turns out to be quite pricey due to EU-shipping costs, but there are a couple of nice art shops here in Copenhagen, so I will see if they have any empty boxes. I did a colour chart yesterday on cold press paper and I am really pleased with these watercolour paints.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

I'm sure you will find something suitable if you shop around... Just a thought... maybe Ebay or Amazon might be worth checking too? Its a shame White nights don't supply a decent box with the 12 pan set, the larger sets seem to come with a much nicer box, but we can't moan about the paints, they are superb and very under priced in my opinion, I hope White nights don't read this comment or they will start putting their prices up lol :)

[@CarolBittencourt]

smoothie77 Hey Smoothie. I ended up buying a metal palette for my colours, but as I expanded my colour selection, I found myself lacking space. I have now purchased the st. Petersburg White Nights palette that has space for 36 pans. It is much nicer than the plastic one with the 12 colours. :)

[@Adriana-eo9dx]

Why not take the paints out of that tray and stick them directly to the bottom. I've used kneaded erasers for that before and it works fine. Also this vid had fantastic information thank you so much. That was so thorough.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thank you, Good idea, and thanks for the nice comment:)

[@Adriana-eo9dx]

smoothie77 NP. Also wow you have reviews on so much equipment. I'm binging now thanks

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

LOL...enjoy! :)

[@Matagot90]

Run lines of hot glue to stop paint from running where you don't want.

[@brooke9885]

That painting was amazing!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks Brook, much appreciated.

[@PaulaDawn]

Society For All Artists (SAA) also supply these.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Thanks for the info Paula.

[@bobbyharper2612]

Hello again smoothie.......good review of white nights.. As I mentioned to you a few weeks ago, that all of my work is done with White Nights and once you get used to their strengths, then they can compete with the best. You asked me to put some of my work out there, so that you could compare the colours...well it's on it's way soon, I will let you know when.... I find that with the pencil and wash technique, Cad Yell...Cob Blue..and plain Green work well, ( various mixes ) and Yellow Ochre and deep Orange with a touch of Raw or Burnt Sienna work great for autumn colour. The Yellow Ochre is really strong.......in any case, dont you find that it's all subjective?...... Bobby

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Bobby Harper Hi Bobby, thanks for writing in again, I'm really enjoying the White Nights paints, glad I bought them! the mixes you suggest sound good, I will give them a try, I prefer the White Night yellow ochre over W&N although I did find it less pigmented than W&N but as mentioned in the review it has a nicer yellow glow, I found out from Maria Kellner that White Night yellow ochre has transparent yellow pigment mixed in, I think thats why I like it (smooth and less opaque), W&N is good but more opaque and chalky, but as you say, its all subjective. I'm looking forward to seeing your work, thanks :)

[@artographyj.g9452]

thanks for the review

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Jodie White You're welcome, thanks for viewing.

[@glenmiller6404]

the biggest problem I had with these paints was getting them out of the foil rappers ! but they do work nice!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+glen miller Lol, its worth the effort to get to those colours, they are amazing!

[@asafluzon6017]

great man thank u it was very helpful! (btw amazing paintings:)

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

You're welcome, glad it was helpful for you.

[@7000bass]

Visit SAA website to buy these

[@nolsia8530]

Hi! What seller did you purchase these off of for such an affordable price?

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

Can't remember the sellers name, if you go to eBay you will find them there, thanks

[@nolsia8530]

Oh, and I'm getting through most of the video now, this review is so very detailed! I really appreciate the thoughts and concerns put into the content here!!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+dainty thanks I appreciate your comment, I don't do many reviews, but when I do I like to cover as much as possible.

[@bobcat1097]

Мной был проведён тест по светостойкости этих акварельных красок и результаты меня не обрадовали, светостойкость, которая пронумерована звёздами на красках может быть ошибочной как в ту, так и в другую сторону. Далее, я написал на завод-изготовитель и с ужасом узнал, что оказывается они не тестили светостойкость красок ещё со времён СССР...ужас!

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Etzli Tenoch Thanks for letting me know, a few people have said similar, I guess whites nights are not as light fast as they claim, thanks again for the comment.

[@bobcat1097]

+smoothie77 Кстати, по поводу размера краски) у вас, вероятно новый вариант набора, в старом варианте pan была больше по высоте, что компенсировало объём, в новом варианте, завод сделал высоту как у Винзора, а длину оставил старой, поэтому вышло, что они меньше.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Etzli Tenoch Thank you its good to know :)

[@sachamw11]

Watercolor I spelt with or not our

[@Sylvia2yang]

White Night paints are not lightfast enough. I went through their whole range, only half are rated high light fastness, all the rest medium or low.

[@smoothie77drawingpainting]

+Weiran Yang I don't know which website you looked at ?, on the English St Petersburg site it has 41 colours with 3 stars, 7 with 2 stars, and 9 with 1 star, that's a very good lightfast rating.

[@Sylvia2yang]

+smoothie77 it's the Ken Bromley website where I ordered mine. I like these colours so ended up hand picked all the high rating ones.

[@katpaints]

+smoothie77 I looked up the pigment numbers they list on their web site for a couple that they rated 3 stars and my favorite pigment site - Handprint - said it was marginally lightfast at best. You have to do your own homework when it comes to paint.

[@Sylvia2yang]

+Kathleen Roush I quote handprint "new shades use pigments that either I or the ASTM has found to be marginally lightfast - use with caution" "Overall, the coloristics of these paints do not compare even to the best "student" grade paint lines, and the pleasingly bright colors will fade rather quickly." To me it means they are not lightfast.

[@katpaints]

I agree. I know a lot of people who use White Knight without problems but they mostly use sketchbooks, closed and dark most of the time. I know that there are way too many paints that are not stable. there are some that I adore like Rose Madder Genuine that I have to leave it the Bad Paint drawer. My favorites are Daniel Smith although I use a lot of W&N artist grade. I don't like Cotman - too much filler!

[@7000bass]

And very cheap