White Supremacist Propaganda Vs Truth | Philosophy Tube

We need to understand how white supremacist propaganda works and what it tells us about communication and truth. Let’s look at the myth of the Irish Slaves, and the myth of White Genocide…
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[@ContraPoints]

Came for the arguments, stayed for the Wilhelm scream.

[@PauloCruz93]

I'm a leftist, where is my check?

[@thimblepunk7359]

hey my fave youtuber on another fave's video

[@jimjambonks9819]

Miguel from the road to El Dorado plus philosophy

[@exocom8625]

I stayed for Beethoven's 7th

[@adrianomaly1760]

sadly couldn't watch your video in the UK :

[@ImperatorZor]

Come on! Bacteria and yeast growths can actually be productively applied for the benefit of society.

[@helpme5785]

Bacteria are crucial in aiding with digestion. White supremacists are like those worms that coat your intestines or vomiting for no reason. A straight up waste of calories!

[@JC-jd1us]

To grow the bread there must be yeast

[@shireenabbas]

@@JC-jd1us grow the bread? and they're talking about yeast infections.

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

@@JC-jd1us You know there's bread that does not use yeast, right?

[@JohnDoe-dh8xc]

Antediluvian Atheist most does, and yeast will still develop in most bread. It’s a question about how much it ferments

[@theSEGAtwistisover9k]

Stop reminding me that I could be watching ContraPoints right now, I'm feeling conflicted..

[@mrwoman4843]

I felt this 2 years later

[@Owlpunk]

"I use the word 'culture' in both senses there" Oooooh nice burn :D

[@MyriadColorsCM]

Not all bacterias are unhealthy, you know? you need some of them in your body to maintain you alive and well. Even then, you always have antibiotics (rational debate).

[@TheJanpietjoris]

#notallbacteria

[@MysticMuttering]

Dude, antibiotics kill all manner of bacteria, "good," "bad," and indifferent. Refine your metaphor and try again.

[@andrewprice8820]

Myst Oh, you cloak your desire for mass deportation and genocide in such cute, cuddly language, don't you? No one buys your shit for a fucking second. Piece of filth.

[@Carimbo575]

Yes, all they want is a policy to keep black people apart from white people. Like... an apart-like policy... To apart the groups and aid one of them... Like, apart-n-aid... Like apart-aid...If only this kind of policy had a name... If only this had been implemented in a country once.... Oh, if I knew a little bit of History...............

[@dstinnettmusic]

What’s the opposite of a trigger warning? Because I get the opposite of triggered by watching Richard Spencer get punched

[@mrjones5636]

yikes

[@ometta7]

Wouldn't the opposite of "triggering" be "lulling" or "pacifying"? Or would it be "amusing"?

[@ometta7]

Scooters Videos Absolutely. Plenty of violent people were and are exceptionally intelligent. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

[@ometta7]

Scooters Videos Not necessarily. You can take pleasure in watching the controlled application of violence to stop further violence without taking sadistic pleasure in the suffering of another human.

[@ometta7]

Scooters Videos Also, whether or not somebody is "sick" still has no bearing on their intelligence. Are you trying to say mentally ill people can't be intelligent?

[@jackcoleman1222]

Imagine genuinely believing that two people kissing constitutes an act of genocide

[@communalnao1999]

@@prins424 the population of Vietnam is 95.54, If you man millions I'm going to assume you mean 5 million~. that would increase the population to 100 million, non-Vietnamese people are only 5% of the population and will barely make a difference, also what is to say that interracial couples will not adopt the culture of the country they're living in? maybe not the religion but nothing is stopping the culture from still passing down. 5% of the population is not enough to somehow bring it to 50% so no culture is being threatened.

[@kthemaster1999]

@@prins424 Those kid will speak Vietnamese. They will grow up in Vietnam. They will be raised in Vietnamese culture. They will be still be Vietnamese.

[@prins424]

@@communalnao1999 I didn't know Vietnam had that many people haha. OK let's say it will be 40% of the population over the course of a century. The higher the percentage point the more it will drastically change the nature and character of whatever the country is.

[@prins424]

@@kthemaster1999 This argument only works on western people. Any other nation wouldn't agree with this, and rightfully so in my opinion.

[@kthemaster1999]

@@prins424 no

[@neymow2242]

Good joke playing Wagner in the background. Nice one

[@huntersullivan51]

Have you made up with Wagner yet or are you still mad at him and his German Idealism? Also it was a humorous dog whistle.

[@samhoffacker1614]

Yea and Beethoven 7 was perfect as well!

[@AhNoWiC]

@@huntersullivan51 This is an underrated, clever and historically based joke. Well done sir.

[@MrShazaamm]

I wonder how many caught on to your joke lol or his. I still love Wagner's music, I just don't think about his ideology while listening.

[@CbarMiiXaaS]

Really owned the nazis with this one chief

[@iron1349]

the usign "They" for Natalie Wynn shows how old this vid is. Great nontheless

[@sycastells1212]

Regardless, it's still a cis man casually using they/them pronouns and setting a great example for his peers. Gold star ally, that Ollie.

[@Alpostpone]

@@sycastells1212 Can't tell if sarcasm or not.

[@sycastells1212]

@@Alpostpone Not.

[@jessbian3385]

Sy Castells i almost though you were calling natalie a cis man, and I almost jumped on ya. Thank god for context.

[@danatronics9039]

@@jessbian3385 As opposed to what, a sine man?

[@psyched1639]

I like how the background music went from some written by a white supremacist to that white supremacist's favorite symphony, which was written by someone with a disability.

[@MrCocktaiI]

"Take the phrase "I love you". If I say it sincerely,..." :) "so, assuming I am not lying..." :(

[@JM-mh1pp]

If hitting Spencer is wrong I do not want to be right.

[@markus3533]

amen

[@perfectlyfrank8]

It's wrong. Get over it.

[@andyhao4357]

Frankie Rufolo nah, I live in the same city as Spencer, and he’s constantly in the local news for instigating hate crimes and death threats to Jewish and other ethnic folks in my community. And I’m my opinion the local news is pretty conservatively leaning, and everyone here finds it heinous.

[@perfectlyfrank8]

@@andyhao4357 that doesn't make it right to physically attack him.

[@kitten_582]

Right

[@bigfloppywithasideoffries6547]

it's sad that it's controversial to hate on nazis on youtube

[@Ric885]

@Ted Bundy tbh looking in from the outside I would rather neither of the two exists. who ever tells you there is one solution (ideology) that will solve all the problems you have is talking out of it's ass

[@Ric885]

@Ted Bundy society should speak about what's worth speaking about and tbh the ideas of the nazis or so obviously stupid and flawed that no those ideas are not worth discussing cause the answer to the jewish question is obviously that they are normal people not worse not better. who ever wants to talk about the rights of others is overstepping their own. once freedom ends where that of it's neighbour starts. if a nazi wants to talk economics sure np if a nazi wants to talk economics cause he wants to have a go at a minority they can go eat shit. arguing about the jewish question is the same as arguing a blue car is red. argue however long you want reality will never be that the car is blue.

[@pedroocm]

@Ted Bundy shut up, nobody cares for your conspiratory-ass books and theory you Nazi fucker.

[@pedroocm]

@Ted Bundy lol

[@pedroocm]

@Ted Bundy nah

[@jakeinternet]

It's really funny that, of the negative comments, half of them are people claiming white supremacists don't exist and the other half are white supremacists celebrating that they exist

[@邓梓薇]

Does it exist or not😟

[@kingrollypollyvii5565]

I am white. I'm proud of that. If that makes me a white supremacist then I'm a white supremacist.

[@flask223]

Hhhhhhhh

[@TL-do7uq]

@@kingrollypollyvii5565 I mean this genuinely, what is it about being white that makes you proud? Not to imply there are none, I simply want to know your personal reasons why

[@kingrollypollyvii5565]

@@TL-do7uq Because it's a part of my identity that makes me, me. Since it's out of my control I'd rather be proud of it than be ashamed or even neutral to it. Of course my ethnicity is only one part of my identity, but it's a very important one, as it is for most other people, nonwhites included. Also, whites are responsible for most innovations.

[@bbinkovitz]

I'm not replaying the part where Ollie says "I love you" to the camera over and over, YOU'RE replaying the part where Ollie says "I love you" to the camera over and over.

[@dansaunders1655]

Olly is now your stalker. Congrats

[@apassmore9872]

Neolibs: "You can't just shoot Nazis, they're people too!" Me: "So anyway, I started blasting."

[@markus3533]

good stuff comrade

[@apassmore9872]

@Alt Fit lol, okay LARPer. Fascism is a loser ideology, so be a loser elsewhere and stop wasting oxygen.

[@saudade7842]

In a video game right? This is all just satire right? For legal reasons.

[@terrencehazel1410]

@@apassmore9872 Because Fascists lost one war? Capitalism got defeated in Vietnam, is Capitalism a loser ideology? It seems to be stronger than ever.

[@apassmore9872]

@@terrencehazel1410Keep it up with the false equivalence. You're doing great.

[@lob5645]

seeing richard spencer getting punched always cheers me up :)

[@lob5645]

I don't care about the politics, I just find it funny seeing his face get punched

[@HUNDmiau]

Dude, for most it made you into an even bigger meme. It literally made you into jokes, like you are.

[@timeaesnyx]

Lob same

[@QuikVidGuy]

HUNDmiau it scared Spencer and friends away though so laugh it up, people who defend Nazis are gettin punched too

[@frechjo]

@@ajasen It's not the same. Please stop with that BS of the extremes being equivalent. If white supremacists keep gaining traction, they'll be doing a lot more than punching. If anti-fascism gains traction, what? Spencer will have to hide his ass. That's hardly something to cry about.

[@paulk314]

"Sometimes it's used to argue that interracial relationships shouldn't be allowed, which is obviously a massive restriction of people of color's freedoms" It's also a restriction of the freedom of people who are not "of color". A relationship is a mutual thing, so if interracial marriages aren't allowed, it is necessarily a restriction of both people's freedoms. So, it's kind of weird to say phrase it the way you did.

[@AandWLowell]

Paul Kennedy But the fundamental question is what do these laws do? In the sense of what much of this video argues in terms of speech acts. Sure the white person cannot marry a PoC, but within a broader legal context of oppression of non-whites the laws serve to reinforce the idea that non-whites are not deserving of marriage to whites. Moreover, given that the arguments for anti-miscegenation laws were often explicitly about racial purity, the purpose of the laws are quite clear.

[@sirmeowthelibrarycat]

Paul Kennedy 👨🏻‍🏫 Quite right! I would like to know how to describe myself, if I am not a 'person of colour ' 😣 I am certainly not white i.e. albino, but a somewhat washed out pink, cream and beige in various degrees! I am also a member of the only human species on this planet, Homo sapiens sapiens. Thus, there cannot be racism, another invented term, as it would denote extreme self-hatred. 👨🏻‍🏫🏛🇬🇧

[@paulk314]

Avram Reisman: Yes, I agree that that has been the basis for the laws. However, the laws would only be "necessary" if there are whites who don't agree and want to marry a non-white person. In that case, the law violates the rights of the white person and the non-white person, and that is necessarily the case. So, to answer our question "what do these laws do?" They violate the rights of both individuals.

[@kidrebel1121]

A law banning interracial relationships does infringe on the rights of everyone, but the consequences of such a law isn't shared equally. America used to have laws against interracial relationships, so we already know how such a law would be enforced. And history shows us that it was worse for PoC than it was for white folks. If a black man and a white women were caught together, the black man would be killed and the white women would be ostracized. Both people suffered, but one clearly was punished more than the other.

[@paulk314]

Was the black man killed by the law, though?

[@lucyx3008]

That "culture" joke was a real zinger, 10/10 intro

[@cappsbriley]

Also appreciated that

[@phatlaluke]

while I'm sad such a video needs to be made, I'm so glad such a widely viewed channel is willing to tackle the issue head on

[@phatlaluke]

Diadorax lmaooo. couldn't you at leasr be original? go fuck yourself ya nazi shitstain

[@Mrs.Sardonicus]

Phatlaluke, sick profile pic comrade! Bash the fash!

[@phatlaluke]

Gwynplaine the Cold and Hungry thnx! had a friend of mine make it for me.

[@Mrs.Sardonicus]

I would, but then you would just go hide behind the police lol

[@michaeldrane9090]

Stuck between mutualism and communism?

[@samuelmelcher333]

As a white person in a wonderful interracial relationship, the idea that interracial relationships are somehow bad or wrong scares the living hell out of me.

[@PhilosophyTube]

That's cool and very sweet! White supremacy is also bad apart from how it might affect us as white people though, obvs.

[@jcivilis533]

Have fun seeing your non-white grandkids show up the fam :^)

[@tbhon]

J Civilis Who cares in the least about if their grandkids are white or not. Mixed babies are cute tbh

[@tbhon]

ODIN The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was entirely propaganda, did you pay any attention in history class?

[@tbhon]

Oh god no Mr. Johnson was a jew too

[@DreamingGod05]

I'm a simple man, I see Richard Spencer punched, I upvote.

[@DreamingGod05]

@@mrjones5636 I mean not getting punched in the face is really simple, don't fight for an ethnostate and ethnic cleansing and you are golden. See how simple that is?

[@mrjones5636]

@@DreamingGod05 So with your logic: "Just don't advocate for the colectivisation of land, and the nationalisation of the industries, it's that simple" Or: "Just don't advocate for and your golden. see how that can be missused and also be applied to the other side?

[@DreamingGod05]

@@mrjones5636 No, not really. One of them is genocide, the other is how to structure an economic system. Is murder and, I don't know, j-walking the same thing?

[@mrjones5636]

@@DreamingGod05 fascism: killed millions of people communism: killed millions of people So it would justify punching a communist too, no?

[@DreamingGod05]

@@mrjones5636 You seem to be unable to differentiate between the intended outcome of a situation, and the results of mismanagement. Your whataboutism's don't convince anyone, and it just makes your point look weak and baseless. You already advocated for an ethnostate, implicitly, so I rest my case.

[@pauly260]

Triggered “Classical Liberals” & “Race Realists” incoming in 5, 4, 3.........

[@markf5220]

The modern "classical liberal", i.e. an ironic 4chan Nazi or Jordan Peterson fanboys

[@panosfasoul699]

Honestly, what is there to trigger me? A perfectly logical video.. (Classical liberal, not race realist for God's sake)

[@mickkeker1990]

Race realism is absolutely real. How can you even look at the genetically expressed traits, societal and cultural differences (many of which are vastly different) and act like race doesn’t exist?

[@RoboBoddicker]

@@mickkeker1990 There are no genetic races. There is a much genetic difference between two random Sub-Saharan Africans as there is between them and you (in fact, Africa is the most genetically diverse region in the world). Racial categories are cultural inventions that change from culture to culture and throughout history, and they always serve a political purpose more than a scientific one.

[@RoboBoddicker]

​@The Big Bad White Man Nothing you said in that comment is true, so I'm not really sure how to respond. I mean, no, there *is* greater genetic variation in Africa than anywhere else in the world. Not because of Africa's varied climates, but because human beings first evolved in Africa, and our species lived there for most of our history. So Africa contains the majority of our evolutionary development. And, yes, there is as much variation between two given Africans as between a European and an African. Or any other people on Earth. Racial categories are based on recently evolved, superficial traits. They are politically expedient (it's easy to tell that a group of people come from far away and have different customs when they look different), but they don't have a deep genetic basis. And even if you just want to categorize humans based solely on appearance, human phenotypic variations are so gradual and diverse across the globe that an objective taxonomy based on appearance is essentially useless. Races exist as political categories that vary from culture to culture. A culture's racial definitions can be politically expedient *for that specific culture*, but they don't really have a wider, objective meaning. There will never be a single set of "races" that all humans can agree on.

[@Grayhome]

This video articulates something I've been wrestling with intellectually for a long time, so thank you for that, Olly. I have been thinking lately about whether speech can be violent in and of itself, even if the content of the speech is not a direct threat of violence. My worry is that White Supremacists are incredibly good at strategically framing their ideas. If you do not protest them, they are supported by the universities and talk shows who will provide them a platform. If you do protest them, then you and your protest group are mocked in the media and labelled opponents of free speech. If you do not argue against them, they get to spread their misinformation. If you do argue against them, you implicitly grant them legitimacy by demonstrating that their ideology is "just another political issue." I think that we need to start thinking more strategically about how we discuss, engage with, and frame White Supremacy. I do not know what the best strategy is.

[@charliegreen1737]

I think this is going to forever be a problem in a political and media climate that supports these ideas. Everything has a downside; I think it's up to us to decide which we use for the particular situation.

[@MrCmon113]

They don't get support from universities at all. You don't need special tactics and violence against some tiny fringe group, that's already universally hated.

[@superclarendon8648]

I was going to comment something similar to this. I wonder how/if we can approach fascist communities with the purpose of changing their false thoughts without inadvertently legitimizing their ideas as something worth debating, a simple difference in opinion or interest.

[@q.barclay8562]

Extremely well put. Yes to all that.

[@veteratorvulpes1116]

It's 2021, I'm sitting in my car finishing work for my second job that I took up because of the pandemic, white supremacists stormed Congress 12 days ago, and the phrase 'using the word culture in both senses' had me laughing so hard I almost threw up. I'm starting to wonder if I'm in a coma.

[@bunjier4041]

>Believes there's a "pandemic" >Thinks "white supremacists stormed the capitol" instead of people protesting an illegitimate election and doesn't even know that it was FBI instigators allowed in to paint political opponents as terrorists >Wagecuck You are really a pathetic excuse for a man lmao

[@veteratorvulpes1116]

@@bunjier4041 So I got to thinking about it and at first I was considering that maybe using the word cuck as an insult is rude because you shouldn't make fun of somebody on account of their fetish even if you don't get it, but then I also kind of thought that maybe a cuckold would be into the part where it's an insult? Kind of an interesting thing to think about, it's probably more of a personal thing and as a rule it's not ideal to use something like that pejoratively, but it is an oddball circumstance of language and culture. Anyway I did Google up 'wagecuck' And there's a pretty raucous collection of very earnest cartoons depicting folks Fight Clubbing real hard which is hilarious for a wide variety of ironic reasons that I won't really get into here, and also directed me to an amazing Reddit post about a kid who called in to a radio station impersonating a school district superintendent to get exams rescheduled on account of a light dusting of snow which was very funny and I enjoyed quite a bit.

[@bunjier4041]

@@veteratorvulpes1116 I'm glad you found this much fascination in my reply.

[@kova1577]

You Americans are silly. If you think anyone stormed anything and it wasn’t planned or a stunt by your degenerate government then my God, you really are lost.

[@DanAI17]

Pretty depressing stuff, yet interesting nonetheless, thank you. Also, you have basically perfect skin I'm kind of jealous...

[@PhilosophyTube]

That is so sweet of you to say! I had awful acne for years and still have to manage it/am a bit insecure about it. I really don't have perfect skin, I've just gotten better at lighting myself.

[@DanAI17]

Well you can't tell about your past with acne at all! And as for lighting, I'm sure you're just being modest.

[@feenyxblue]

Heads up, bold person venturing into the comments: They are a dumpster fire

[@loganreed23]

Abandon all hope, ye who enter here

[@debra-sue]

watching spencer get absolutely clocked will always be funny and deeply gratifying.

[@BadMouseProductions]

Another interesting thing is that the post-war welfare state was built in part due to the sacking of Malaysia. Although Olly a common argument made by the right is the argument "The Arab Slave trade was far bigger" What would be a refutation to that?

[@BadMouseProductions]

Well this is our problem and thus it affects us, just as the Arabs might also want to see the Arab slave trade as their problem because it affects them.

[@sassycassgames3158]

Larpy People White people aren't either. Sure, we are taught that slavery is bad and anyone who supports it is shit, but I can testify, having lived in a the former Confederate capital state my entire life, that no one has EVER told me that I should feel guilty for my ancestors actions. However, there is alternatively no reason you should be PROUD of your ancestors good actions if it is not ok to feel guilty for their detestable actions.

[@notruescotsman777]

I personally don't think the scope of other slave trades is a morally relevant criteria in discussing the morality of the British and American slave trades. Just as the destruction of Dresden was not justified by the destruction of Coventry, the British slave trade is not absolved by the fact there were other countries built on slavery.

[@ThePaddymike]

the argument against that is that is simple. just because there is a worse slave trade doesn't mean the atlantic one wasn't bad. they are using african sufferring as a red herring to distract from other african suffering. white supremacists probably think the arab slave trade is a gotcha because they think sjws believe that poc can do no wrong, which isn't really true except for with maoist third worldists i guess. although, unrhue is kinda racist so it just goes to show how complicated it all is.

[@andrewprice8820]

Wolf Stone You could say the Arab nations owe reparations to slaves. That is...just not true. They were not all impoverished before the discovery of oil by any means. It created an explosion of wealth for a few countries far beyond what they had before, but the Ottoman Empire for instance was a mighty force with lots of wealth going around long before the discovery of oil. As were the other caliphates that proceeded it. I mean could I not ask why the European world was mostly impoverished before colonialism? No, you would never consider that, because it's not racist enough. No, no it doesn't. That's their issue, and they should deal with that. This is *our* issue.

[@paigemurphy3437]

I know this comment section will probably go to hell real quick but just want to say you have a really cute beard Olly 💙

[@PhilosophyTube]

Thanks!

[@alexkidd3d]

Tristan Murphy very Robin hood, he steals from the intellectually rich and gives to the intellectually poor 😂

[@andrewprice8820]

babbisp1 1) We don't care what you don't care about. It's not all about you. 2) That's not genocide. And it isn't a thing either.

[@andrewprice8820]

I-Theist Nope, no its not. It's not the intentional destruction of an entire group of people. Therefore it's not genocide. Genocide is more like what the Nazis did. I'm sure you've heard of them.

[@andrewprice8820]

I-Theist Hmm, no, I don't think it is. Good argument though. You're a great philosopher.

[@saffa321]

My town in South-Africa pushed the white genocide myth so hard just dare saying its statistically and factually unacurate and the whole town decends upon you with terms like "race traitor", "not worth a white skin", K-Naier (equivalent of N-fucker)... These myths are used for excuses for racism daily. People of color (specifically this town of Jeffreys Bay South Africa) are heavily subject to racism...and so is any other white who speaks out. Atleast we have a growing socialist movement in out town. Great to watch content

[@szthbnsfprdctn]

hey thereeeee. what town you from? it's wild seeing peeps from here for me

[@pedrohenriquedadaltdequeir4859]

I had never encountered these groups personally since today. I was very shocked to meet actual nazis.

[@haroldgarling1063]

I have a socialist movement growing in my town too. A National Socialist movement 😏

[@mwstriker98]

I have a prediction that this will be your most controversial video. Even though it really shouldn't be.

[@BadMouseProductions]

If it were released 5 years ago it would have a 10/1 Like to Dislike bar at the least.

[@atomsk3291]

It will probably be because about half of the internet has been frequently called a white spremacist or a nazi lately. Online interaction is becoming dangerously polarized (and polarizing)

[@StephenMeansMe]

Daniel Blackmore When you say "it's not uncommon" do you mean on the Internet (because unfortunately we have to consider the army of sockpuppets and Russian mercenary-trolls) or in general real-life interactions (in which case, yikes)?

[@welwitschia]

+Stephen Peterson Remember, this was written by a US Congressman: twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/840980755236999169

[@Daniel-ot8gg]

Paxsali I really hope you are just trolling. But if you don't, I don't know where to begin. I'm not going to argue with some foolish internet stranger about this stuff. If I want a discussion on level, I go to the Uni.

[@LauraAgustinNA]

Thanks for including me again, Olly. The use of the term slavery in prostitution-law arguments has a similar effect, by providing an opening for fundamentalists (religious, feminist) to switch the conversation away from real life, labour rights and pragmatic solutions.

[@alexsere3061]

About the Irish stuff, I just found out it exists, the thing I don't understand is that, even if it were correct, why does it matter? What argument are you gonna make? "Well, they were also enslaved, SEE SLAVERY WAS NOT RACIST IT ALSO INCLUDED PEOPLE THAT WE NOW CONSIDER WHITE"? "Yeah, black people were opressed, bue how about we talk about the Irish?" It's like when people say: it wasn't 6M deaths in the Holocaust, it was about a half/third/thenth...the number is not the important part, it's that it was systematic ethic cleansing. Even if it's 2 orders of magnitude off it shouldn't change how you see it.

[@GordonGarvey]

The "white slavery myth" isn't even a white nationalist talking point. Though muslims did take many white slaves from Europe. The irish had it as bad if not worse than the American slaves, reducing the argument down to the fact that the Africans were legally slaves is rediculous.

[@alexsere3061]

@@GordonGarvey I am aware that many white people throughout history and even today are slaves. I didn't mean it was irrelevant in general or false. I meant to say that bringing it up to diminish black slavery in the context of pre civil war USA does not make slavery more acceptable. The same way saying "there were less than 6M killed in the Holocaust" does not make me go "oh then the Nazis weren't that bad, 6M is something, but if you only killed 600 000 people, then you ain't as bad"

[@GordonGarvey]

If the number didn't matter they wouldn't have exaggerated it. There's been many more genocides throughout history that most people haven't heard of because of the spotlight put on the jewish one. Would you call the systematic replacement of Europeans with non-Europeans a genocide? If the number doesn't matter then you shouldn't have any problem recognising that the goal and results will be the same. It's too insidious for people to recognise but in time it will have successfully destroyed our national identities. If you have no problem with that I see no reason for you calling the jewish genocide that, might as well just be another mass murder.

[@alexsere3061]

@@GordonGarvey no, the "white genocide" it's not a genocide, and the methods do matter, if fact it's what matters the most TO ME. The holocaust is not the same as your "white genocide" primarily because one of them had concentration camps and systematic killings, while the other happens because people are not prejuditials and have children (which is the opposite of murder). The number is important, I agree, but sometimes an atrocity is so hideous that even if it happened to 1% of the people I (this is a personal opinion) wouldn't be less outraged by it. This is a personal opinion, of course. If I killed your whole family, and then told you "actually, I just killed your parents and siblings" would your level of anger drop significantly? Or would it stay the same? My would stay roughly the same, but, once again, this is subjective.

[@oscardighton8580]

Well one thing he neglects to mention is that a lot of the Irish indentured servants were pows and political prisoners sent by the British. Also the reason so many irish were ending up indentured servitude even by their own choice was largely because the British stole their land and had lost everything.

[@shelleymcrae514]

Hello 911 yes I’d like to report a growing wild fire in the comments

[@feritee623]

I ship contrapoints and philosophy tube

[@oliviaborghi1349]

don't ship real people?

[@mikemanners118]

a man and a man. Hey only if he swings that way

[@genieglasslamp5028]

@@oliviaborghi1349 No mom you just dont get it.

[@korppi164]

That's gay.

[@larsfrisk6658]

Natollie

[@conorkelly8851]

If having a relationship with someone outside my "race" is genocide, send me to Nuremberg because I am not stopping anytime soon.

[@Fraude_fiscale4]

If having kids with someone outside my race is genocide call me heinrich himmler

[@themongol1263]

germany will be majority asian in 10 years so u will have fun there

[@christiegreenwood2642]

Ah, Beethoven's Seventh. Beautiful. Also, I could watch Spencer get punched in the gob for hours.

[@luckyjak117]

Jews can't meme

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Roger Smith we actually do, very well. Have you heard any Jewish jokes? I’d be happy to tell you some if you like

[@tonycampbell1424]

@@luckyjak117 Yeah, nothing funny or Memetic about Mel Brooks movies at all. Oops.

[@dragoncurveenthusiast]

I love your choices in music. The second movement of Beethoven's 7th always gives me goosebumps. Using Wagner when talking about Nazi Germany is also very fitting, although I really like Wagner's Ring.

[@jasondiasauthorpage615]

"Warning: This video features a man being punched in the face." Me: "Please let it be Richard Spencer..."

[@cpunykurde]

Wonderful advice about not only thinking about the content of a message, but also what it does or can do. Sometimes when a bad message is true or at least not disprovable , we start to lack convincing aguments against it. As you briefly mentioned, I see this advice apply also to personal life. It seems to me a powerful tool, and I will try to remind myself of it regularly! Thank you!

[@tudorsandu3054]

What the hell do you mean “All of the so called white homelands even in Europe were in large part built by wealth stolen from people who weren’t white”???? What about Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Albania, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine and Belarus. None of these countries ever had any colonies (or had very tiny ones that produced pretty much no wealth and were then abandoned) And what about other countries that had small colonies but were already wealthy without them and they didnt gain much from them like Italy and Germany? Edit: I make this comment because Im from Romania and youre basically accusing mine and all those other countries mentioned apart from Italy and Germany of perpetrating slavery and stealing natural resources from other continents.

[@PhilosophyTube]

I mean just to stick with Romania, there were Romani slaves there for ages... You're right though that I could have phrased that sentence slightly better so as not to imply it was all about colonisation.

[@tudorsandu3054]

@@PhilosophyTube Ok, sure, romani slaves. I can cede that. But they are not why Romania is like it is now. The modern Romanian state and its wealth was not built on the back of slavery and I dont think the old one was either. Correct me if Im wrong.

[@prins424]

@@tudorsandu3054 The idea that European wealth is a result of colonization is unfounded. Unless the video creator can show us some evidence to back it up rather than just state it as fact.

[@mikkelnorregaard57]

Large parts of the historical mansions in Copenhagen were built using money gained from slave trade or sugar produced on the Virgin Islands, which were back then known as "Danish West India"

[@SeasideDetective2]

Not to mention that most of these nations coalesced centuries before the era of overseas colonies began. They did pretty well without colonies for a while.

[@Fishtory]

I really enjoyed how you broke this down, and agree with almost everything said. However, the more common myth in America about the Irish immigrants tends to be that "they were worth less than a slave" socially speaking. This idea comes predominantly from the first railroads and canals in America, where they preferred to hire the Irish sometimes paying in whiskey alone, for blasting away stone with black powder (pre TNT). It was true that some of the Jobs were so deadly that slaves were not enlisted due to their (sick to say) "monetary value as a renewable resource/labor". Where as they could spend another dollar on an Irish teenager to go set powder charges for 2 bottles of booze (one for them to drink and one to barter or sell). So while that has nothing close to do with being enslaved- it does also show how the "Titans of Industry", felt about human life vs capital.

[@m.f.3347]

Hello, brave soul that decided to sort comments by "newest first"

[@Illumirage]

Problem? People are rejecting his calls for violence and youre mad?

[@Rycluse]

Ayy, me too. Lots of liberals and """liberals""" decrying violence against ideologies that inexorably lead to genocide

[@Illumirage]

@@Rycluse no, propagating you mean. Liberals are propagating ideologies that lead to gen0cide.

[@Illumirage]

@laz kar you hold more similarities to a fascist than i.

[@Illumirage]

@@Gigacyy yes actually

[@mialovely7864]

The dude that punched Spencer in the face is Steve Rogers.

[@prophetsnake]

@@CyberThug1080i Tungston? Iron? Copper?

[@ihatetrollingGaming]

@@prophetsnake no love for alloys?

[@merelyacitizen]

Thanks for another great video, Olly. I'm taking a break before I start applying to Ph.D programs and your videos keep me in a good philosophical mindset. Keep up the good work!

[@kaitlyn__L]

hey ollie, thanks again for the video. i checked out contrapoints' video, which made a lot of good points too. though it didn't personally bother me, i think some people would've needed a warning for the innuendo and possibly the partial nudity? i have a few of my friends who probably wouldn't have been able to stick around if they weren't expecting it yk? or people who live in households with controlling parents (or similar) and weren't using headphones - i know i've been in that spot a few times before i moved out. (apologies if someone has already brought this up.)

[@PhilosophyTube]

Ooh, fair cop! I will bear that in mind in future, thanks!

[@faisalahmed-oo6jr]

Get ready for some hate and negative feedback..... There are more WS's and their sympathizers on the internet than I had previously thought.. Great video

[@richyrich6099]

faisal ahmed Anyone that disagrees with violence as a means to an end in democratic society is a white supremacist? Wow, what a tiny narrow view you have

[@oreocarlton3343]

"Violent thoughts that wish death to entire races can only be debated with more violence" that is a highly anti-progressive thought. If I see you speaking against George Soros again in this comment section Im going to report you.

[@oreocarlton3343]

seems like some of my recent comments had been removed

[@jcivilis533]

Back to turkey Ahmed

[@misterree09]

@Proud Kamerade Then why are your ilk so thin-skinned when you lot get called for what you are? You're racists, sexists, anti-Semitic, fascists and neo-Nazis. Look how the 'master race' cannot handle words, so you commit murder to silence your opponents when they're told to your faces.

[@claralopes9337]

honestly it´s kind of annoying how good looking olly is... i´ve been binge watching his videos for a while now and in every single one of them i get lost in his eyes and have to start over. who gave you that right, sir?

[@YaBoiHakim]

Absolutely excellent work. Man am I glad I found your channel.

[@Ghostofthegallow]

Me: violance is not the awnser and if it is, it is a last resort everything can changed with reasoned debate Also me: if I brake a nazis's fingers he's gonna have less fingers to do nazi shit with

[@Bildgesmythe]

June 2020. Good time to watch this again.

[@lizzyb.8009]

AH! i finally understood what you meant when you said you used culture in both senses there! ^^; bit slow on the uptake...

[@filipportman5981]

Hard fact: Appeasement and reasoning with fascists always backfire.

[@CaliapiRose]

Hey Olly I know that there is a lot of fighting in the comments and it's getting really heated in some of the debates. But don't let this discourage you from making "controversial" videos. People are arguing because you are talking about something that matters (not saying that normally you don't say things that matter, I love all of your videos). Whenever something important is said it will be met with resistance and fighting, but that only means that it needed to be said, even if it sucks to have to be the person to say it because it opens you up to be attacked, and creates fights around you.

[@jhonjacson798]

Tre Edgerton so you think its a bad thing for him to get punched because of his beliefs?

[@june_birnie]

I live in Seattle and the Proud Boys, 3%ers and Oathkeeps were recently in town hosting a "Free Speech" rally and I was part of the counter-protest. A couple Oathkeepers were acting as "security" and when confronted about what they were doing there they responded "we are here defending free speech." The person standing next to me asked "if we needed you to defend a black lives matter protest would you do that." They immediately responded "no" and it became painfully clear to me that they had no interest in "free speech."

[@OH-pc5jx]

Great vid but also I’m so glad nobody calls it ‘the doobly-doo’ any more

[@MIchaelArlowe]

2:45 “I didn’t say I stole the money” radically changes its meaning depending on which word you emphasize.

[@turksungerbob728]

That's pretty interesting

[@2011killjoy]

The issue with punching nazis and why there is backlash from those that aren’t nazis or even are left wing is that it adds fuel to the “left is out to get us” bit and encourages them to go out in crowds. This turns each occurrence of a pinch into a larger and larger brawl without much of a way to stop until one side backs down, and the nazis aren’t gonna be that side. It’s not much of a matter of if it’s right or not, it’s a matter of what the consequences will be and I didn’t see these consequences make an appearance in this video.

[@bentoth9555]

God that video of Richard Spencer getting punched just never gets old. I'm generally against punching anyone (generally pacifistic) but damn if that isn't satisfying still.

[@bentoth9555]

Also, the War on Christmas is false? But I was planning on doing my part to invade the North Pole and take out at least one of the reindeer!

[@Illumirage]

Well it's nice that you let your bigotry override your principles

[@bentoth9555]

@@Illumirage Yes, I am generally bigoted against Nazis. It's funny how I can be so completely opposed to people who want me dead. So irrational.

[@Illumirage]

@@bentoth9555 There aren't really nazis anymore though. I wonder if you go after black supremacists the same way you hate "nazis" that don't exist. I wonder if your principles extend to other supremacists too. My guess is no.

[@papichulo4171]

@Damien INSANE-O Neo-nazis exist tho

[@ANIpJs]

Should I find it fucked up that I got a Trump poll about socialism before this video?

[@valeried8542]

This got more & more relevant as time went on

[@Richard_is_cool]

I did like the video. Two problems: 1. Large parts of the so called white land (say Eastern Europe) have not benefitted from genocide. 2. Saying that disallowing interracial relationships is a restriction of (so called) people of color's freedoms and omitting that it is indeed a restriction on the so called white people as well is very peculiar and shows something strange. It's just the way you use language so that no damage to white people is even mentioned, even when it is there.

[@mikemanners118]

he's anti white, he's lying to you

[@Hudson316]

Every time I see the "I love you" thing brought up I think of the scene from Barry in acting class where he and Sally have to communicate a full scene just with the sentence "I love you" with different emotional emphasis

[@stevendaly6977]

I am Irish and I never heard that myth

[@TheBeatle49]

Exists. First heard it from my very conservative father-in-law, who by the way wasn't a racist.

[@KlaasKlar1984]

8:45 - "no onterracial marrages allowed" would not only be a restriction of freedom towards POCs, it would as well be a restriction to Whites.

[@luciawdfg]

i might have emotional problems because of the amount of times i listened to olly saying “i love you”

[@catherinevandagriff1865]

You explained this so well. It's a real problem when we don't differentiate between what's said and what is accomplished in the saying. I'm afraid we're not very good at picking up on nuance, subtext, and hidden agendas. An education that accomplished that would be a REAL education. Thanks for educating!

[@nautzz_]

"All of the so-called "white homelands", even in Europe, were built in large part using wealth stolen from people who weren't white." If you had said "most of the so-called "white homelands", even in Europe" I would agree, but this clearly doesn't apply to many European countries, even ones almost always considered white by the far right (like most of the Nordics, an argument could be had about Denmark but, I digress).

[@fargothringbearer6627]

so why is every country outside europe massively poor and undeveloped despite europe and the USA giving them trillions of dollars and in person help?.

[@Fluffkitscripts]

Hitler is so much more applicable here than they’d like. For instance: Hitler (plus one US president) placed less importance on *truth* in his speeches than simply eliciting an emotional response. It didn’t matter to the crowd once they’d been whipped into a frenzy by fiery, inflammatory, racially charged rhetoric. It still works if the crowd WANTS to believe the lie, and they’d will ALWAYS accept it over any truth they don’t want to believe.

[@marcvanleeuwen5986]

The name of the French philosopher who wrote "Anti-Semite and Jew" is Sartre

[@anonymousmisnomer5443]

Oml I can’t believe you looove me! Okay okay. ILOVEYOUTOO!

[@coppermoth6069]

The exception clause in the 13th amendment allowed slavery to continue as punishment for crime, even crimes like loitering, and debts, freed African American slaves could become the property of their previous slave owners all over again as a punishment and could be whipped and chained and have their punishments lengthened for arbitrary reasons… even if it wasn’t as bad as chattel slavery because their children would be free, it was still really messed up, and I think their descendants are owed reparations In Ireland and Scotland simply speaking Gaelic or wearing the tartan was a crime punishable with the same punishment of forced labor in America, it was a way to erase their culture, families were broken apart, it was awful… even if it wasn’t as bad as chattel slavery because their children would be free, it was still really messed up, and I think their descendants are owed reparations You pointed out that some people could obtain land but sharecropping usually didn’t work out that way, Sharecropping was bad because it increased the amount of debt that poor people owed the plantation owners. Sharecropping was similar to slavery because after a while, the sharecroppers owed so much money to the plantation owners they had to give them all of the money they made, it wasn’t as bad as chattel slavery, but I feel like comparing everything to chattel slavery misses the point

[@xzonia1]

Very well said! Thank you for the philosophical insight on this topical issue, Olly!

[@seedfamily1404]

I don't condone violence. Truly, I don't. And yet... I must admit, I have played that footage of Richard Spencer being punched in the face again and again. Shame on me. Really. Violence isn't the answer.

[@camelopardalis84]

The thing is, if it is the only possible course of action it must be used. Imagine a rapist roaming the streets where you live, attacking (raping) people left and right. Women, men, children. Just anybody. And the authorities don't do enough to stop him. Police arrest him but he gets released (on bail or just because the people who decide these things think he will appear in court when he has to) and he resumes raping people. He actually shows up for his court date and is sentenced to only nine months in jail for whatever reason. There he manages to rape people as well. And he gets released after those nine months. Again, he resumes raping people outside of jail. Everybody knows his face but still he manages to rape people. This goes on and on. Short stint in jail and long stints in prison follow. He continuosly gets released and he continuosly rapes. When private citizens lock him up the authorities release him. Isn't it necessary to at least render this man incapable of raping? Which can (possibly) only be done in a violent way? These things take place all over the world. Not exactly this thing but things that are absolutely comparable.

[@kubakowalski214]

@@camelopardalis84 Honestly fuck you for bringing rape into this. A guy spouting his opinions isn't the same as rape. You're doing great disservice to all the victims of it.

[@underoverachiever7093]

Just noticed the William Shakespeare the complete works in the background, nice foreshadowing

[@johndoeanon445]

I'm speaking from a neutral, hypothetical point, here. My question is: If your opponents (Nazis and such in this case) are so obviously wrong, why wouldn't you want them to reveal their opinions? If they're as wrong as you say, then you can simply prove them wrong. And if they happen to be right, isn't it your responsibility as a logically thinking person to accept that you were wrong and someone else, however "bad" you think that their ideas are, is right?

[@casersatz]

Because no matter how obviously wrong they are, they will still appeal to at least a few people if given the chance. White supremacy is an emotional notion, and it's hard to debate feels. It can be done, sure, if one is eloquent and empathetic enough, but in the shadow of Nazism, one cannot take that chance. Fascism had its chance to make its case and it failed more thoroughly than perhaps any other ideology in world history. If an idea fails so completely, you don't bother dredging it up again. That's how the marketplace of ideas is supposed to work, in theory: you fail, your product is gone.

[@David-pz7ju]

+casersatz WHY DOES NO ONE SAY THE SAME ABOUT SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM

[@David-pz7ju]

If fascism is so bad then why did many countries peak while they were under a monarchy (which is very similar to fascism)

[@casersatz]

Um... they do.

[@casersatz]

Which countries did you have in mind? This also depends on what you mean by "peak". There are many different ways that you could describe a peak: military power, colonization, artistic accomplishment, social equity, etc. Peaking as a monarchy doesn't mean that the ends justify the means- means which, as you say yourself, were very similar to fascism.

[@firebreathingchickenduck4936]

Thank you so much!! My aunt is falling for the irish slaves myth and i hope that i can show her this video and she will see how its not okay to say that

[@Illumirage]

that's not a myth though.... there were irish slaves

[@firebreathingchickenduck4936]

@@Illumirage either way she said "maybe black people should remember that" and she put two groups against each other? You dont do that shit. Also more specifically they were slaves, but they still got their freedom a lot sooner than back slaves did. It doesn't made what happened to them right, but its idiotic to "support" them as a reason to put another group down

[@CEO_Of_Racism-fk3qv]

@@Illumirage no your wrong

[@travv88]

@@firebreathingchickenduck4936 "she put two groups against each other? You dont do that shit." well I hope you stand against BLM then, since they are inciting race war with whites constantly.

[@CrowTR0bot]

@@travv88 Pointing out how the Establishment mistreats minorities so you know it's a problem and how to fix it=/=inciting a race war with whites.

[@ianvjones]

A bit off track. (But in the same ballpark). I have a friend who is constantly referencing "The International Jew" as if it were some kind of biblical text, but I can never find any rebukes of it anywhere. I find a lot of support for it, but no real arguments against it. Has this channel or any other channel done anything on it?

[@bryanzecchin9380]

henry ford was a great man, it’s sad what the tiny hats did to his home town of Dearborn

[@kennethmccormick1791]

A shout out to ContraPoints? Yey... \o/

[@BeastMasterNeil]

If money is speech, then so is punching.

[@anon6413]

Money = speech? Watchu talkin' about, Willis?

[@maxwellsdemon6599]

Punshing nazis is the best thing you can do to promote nazis in my opinion. The right has a persecution complex. You just make it worse if you persecute them. Every antifacist punshing nazis will make the alt right able to point at the left and say: Yeah we are under attack, it is us against them. The right wing idiology requieres this narrativ. I think the best thing is to restrict their right to free speech and to assembly if they promote violence or racist idiology. But the state has to do that, not the left, because if you do and they still have a platform to speak about it, all you do is recrouting more nazis. It is the same with torturing islamist terrorists. Nothing is better propaganda than Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib...

[@samizdat113]

White people are native to Europe. Jewish people are native to the Levant. Race is far more than skin tone.

[@georgefitzhugh5408]

If the Nazis were "White Supremacy in its purest form," as you say, why were their major allies Japan and Italy? Italy is of course White (European) but has a larger genetic component, about half, of Near Eastern origin than any European nation but Greece. Also, about four times more blond, blue-eyed supermen were fighting for the Allies than for the Axis. (So did the outcome of the war prove Aryan supremacy?) The answer to my own question is that the Nazis were German nationalists first, and racists a distant second. They had no problem oppressing other Whites and allying with non-Whites to advance specifically German interests. Second, how is White supremacism in Europe any different from Jewish supremacism in Israel, Han supremacism in China, Chicano supremacism in Mexico, Japanese supremacism in Japan, Mashona supremacism in Zimbabwe, etc? Isn't it perfectly normal for people to want a country where their ethnic group can feel secure from domination by other ethnic groups? The problem with the Nazis was not that they were ethnic nationalists, it was that they were imperialists: they wanted to rule over non-Germans, and were willing to kill many to have their way. The whole history of Europe since the French Revolution has been about the struggle of ethnic groups for self-determination. You lefties were on the side of European ethno-nationalism throughout the 19th century, or have you forgotten? Now, you are only on the side of non-White ethno-nationalism. There is a nice word for people like you: traitor.

[@Matt_D_370z]

"Propaganda spreads incomplete truths, in series and as separate units. Later these fragments are organized and converted into political theories, which become absolute truths for the masses" (Octavio Paz "The Labyrinth of Solitude" p. 67).

[@Skag_Sisyphus]

That video of spencer getting punched gets better every time

[@Illumirage]

Same with the antifa girl punching vid

[@Skag_Sisyphus]

@@Illumirage The white supremecist punching the berkeley chick? lol Usually people like you aren't worth my time, but I'm bored, so I'll clue you in: You're a joke. People like you are a joke. Only idiots find anything people like you say to be of any value whatsoever. Your only value is for people to look at and think "oh thank god I'm not that stupid." Have a good one. feel free to respond with something stupid. I am, after all, very bored.

[@markus3533]

@@Illumirage cmon dude. he is even telling you come up with more stupid shit, lets see some more nazi brainwashing rhetorics!

[@markus3533]

cheers mate

[@Illumirage]

@@markus3533 What?!?!?

[@bubblerhythm]

Nice chunky facts to nab for my ethics exam, merci

[@Theo_Caro]

The soundtrack for this one was awesome.

[@randyham273]

I have a question about the thumbnail. I have seen paintings like that and maybe even that exact painting, and I know it has some relationship with fascism but I don't know what it is. Can someone link me to more information about it?

[@highsun76]

I'm commenting because I had the same question.

[@singleoneonly]

it's the guernica by picasso, a painting depicting the bombing of the spanish town of guernica that was ordered by the nationalistic forces in the spanish civil war and actually done by the fascist forces of hitler's germany and mussolini's italy

[@apollo4132]

I just wanted you to know that I go to school in southern minnesota, which for those of you who arent american, is a blue state, or a state that favors the center right democratic party as opposed to the far right republican party in our two party system, so much so that we were the only state, save for washington dc which is not a state but still has its own 3 electoral votes for reasons that no one really understands, not to give our electoral votes to ronald regan when he ran for his second term. This is something that the liberals in my area are quite proud of. This is relevant because its not somewhere you would expect white supremacy to take up roots, especially since it is one of the most northern states and doesn't have a ton of historical slavery. ((we had that thing with the natives, but that happened everywhere in this country)) I bring all of this up and want everyone who reads this comment to understand me when I tell them that I was taught that the Irish were brought to the colonies to work as slaves but where replaced as slaves by blacks because blacks were better at working in tropical conditions in my public school. Tell me too my face that textbooks have a libral bias. I'll smash you over the head with that fash propoganda if you do

[@apollo4132]

@Largesse1000 Oh don't worry I know that Nazis are farther right ect, that does not preclude Republicans from being far right. As far as my anarcho communist ass is conserned, Democrats are centrist on their best day, I think you should grow up actually, if you think that Republicans are anything other than fascist enablers

[@josehuntersings4218]

That view isn't childish, it is plausible, even if not totally correct. However, what is undeniable is that you're a jackass apologist

[@apollo4132]

@Dissident Thoughts is this a joke???

[@fern5505]

pedantic note: I’m not sure what the proportions were. But there were definitely a significant number of non criminal Irish indentured servants who came to America for opportunity and paid in (years, often) of labor. I know this is pretty off topic, but i just wanted to mention it. (Also given the context this may seem like some sort of comparison to slavery, which I did not at all intend it to be.)

[@Richard_is_cool]

Not all "white homeland" countries in Europe were colonialist. The way you put it it almost sounds like you don't believe that (you did say "all").

[@saxx9088]

Richard S. Austria tried but failed So there’s one

[@Richard_is_cool]

@@saxx9088 Quite. Austria was imperialist, but never really made it to the colonialism category. Not for a lack of trying, but for being blocked by other powers, like the British.

[@borkwoof696]

Richard S. Doesn’t mean they didn’t oppress other ethnicities tho

[@Richard_is_cool]

@@borkwoof696 That's not colonialism tho

[@borkwoof696]

Richard S. I know

[@christophermccandless8352]

Can someone fill me in on why the thumbnail is Guernica?

[@PhilosophyTube]

It's an anti-fascist painting

[@melissapountney8488]

Link's in the doobly-doo!!!! 😂😂😂 5:40 In all seriousness, love your show!!! 😄

[@Baby_boodle]

I wholly appreciate this video. It feels like it was genuinely necessary to my life. Thank you so much for making it, and for the thought/humor that went into this video.

[@Lyotac]

The only cure for a bad argument are counter-arguments & discussion not deplatforming because you can't kill an idea.

[@Millionsofpeas]

If that were true you'd engage with the video. This video anticipated and countered that argument. You've just sort of lazily presented it yourself. You can believe this position if you'd like but you have to be willing to fight for it.

[@Lyotac]

I presented some arguments in reply to other comments on this page. I didn't present arguments in this specific comment thread to make a clutter-free point; no one likes a wall of text. Im definitely ready to fight for this and agree with you on that point.

[@CaptKordite]

The addition of the Wilhelm Scream is perfect.

[@lukamilosevic661]

Wait, this guy is the Philosophy Tube spokesperson? But isn't it supposed to be a woman or something, is this her friend or something

[@ratherrazz4798]

The host is transgender

[@lukamilosevic661]

@@ratherrazz4798 You're telling me he just became woman?

[@ratherrazz4798]

@@lukamilosevic661 yes

[@lukamilosevic661]

@@ratherrazz4798 That's freaking insane

[@canaryimpulse989]

@@lukamilosevic661 ikr? so proud of her :)

[@tylerooney790]

Should communists be treated without dialogue too?

[@tylerooney790]

@@Mzalwane1 I'm shaking in my little Nazi boots

[@vincentpalermo3452]

Are communists murdering innocents currently?

[@bryanzecchin9380]

Vincent Palermo yes

[@Matt_D_370z]

"They [fascists] put a face on globalization, arguing that its complex challenges were the result of a conspiracy against the nation” (Timothy Snyder “On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century” (2017) p. 12).

[@parastooabr1524]

Wow one year later and this is video is so relevant. You somewhat saw it coming.

[@mduckernz]

Man, it's been visible coming for like 5 years now. But particularly the last 2-3. But I do understand why most people really don't want to look under the covers, it's horrifying under there :(