Who Did it Better? - Kaio-ken x20

[@TotallyNotMark]

Don't forget to leave a like or dislike! It really helps :) Leave me know what you chose down below!

[@rishistark2648]

Hi I voot the manga Love your work keep doing this

[@ismailbrkic3640]

Hey Totally Not Mark could you react to Croatia,Serbia, Greece dub please i think Crotia dub is there and 2 Serbian's dub just because we you have been in Bosnia and i think you learned this word "Ma daj ban bježi u pič*(pičk)u materinu!" And also you're awesome!!!!! I have watched the whole video and my favorite is Early Funimation Dub and also just keep doing awesome work!

[@Entrominal]

Abridged

[@DylSpoganovEdits]

I vote kai because kai was my life since I was a boy

[@grippynips2813]

Id have to say the manga. all of the animated versions are wonderful and depict it well, but nothing can beat the pacing and feeling i get from the original.

[@trailersforfun2669]

I know no one else cares, but id really like to see the human fighters learn the Kaio-ken

[@Sakaki98]

That’s been a standard among the better fanfictions, and I think that’s the best we’re gonna get lolz.

[@taylorbee4010]

@@Sakaki98 chichi can lol

[@Sakaki98]

Taylor Bee I wish that was canon...

[@mony6847]

I care and I would love to see that too

[@grandmastergoose609]

Trailers For Fun i care

[@DecosonicDarstardlyTV]

1:15 This is singlehandedly one of the best moments in your channel.

[@futurefuturetrunks7863]

I'm dead now 💀

[@hihu3749]

@@futurefuturetrunks7863 RIP 😔

[@L33PL4Y]

I didn't even notice it lol, I was listening more than watching.

[@ethanleu5354]

I liked kai's dub one Sean brought some real intensity to it

[@frederickgrandison3609]

Than last time

[@tudormihai6600]

@@frederickgrandison3609 if I'm not wrong he as literally at the start of his career so of course after 10 years he would get better

[@Entei9000]

@@tudormihai6600 I agree completely, although for some reason a lot of people think it's the other way around

[@glinkrecords]

Facts

[@kirbo_ye]

Fr fr

[@vilheimtheunsinkable9646]

Kaioken! Kaio-what? *hit* KA-ME-HA-ME HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA No seriously, Kaio-what? Kai-oh crap. Thought so.

[@aceii4299]

*...*

[@mnatymnaty8379]

Yep team four star that's good stuff

[@123mubzi5]

Seriously though. What’s a kio Ken!

[@sscringe6340]

It’s so annoying stop quoting

[@reversalmushroom]

I don't get it.

[@odd-eyes6363]

Goku was fully aware of what was at stake. That’s why I like the scene in the water, Goku may not be a perfect hero type but he is certainly a good person who cares a lot about his friends and family Then again, the original manga benefited from not including a scene like that because it kept the tension of the battle always high, adding a moment like that could take away some of the tension by giving Goku and the audience some breathing room. The point is both Toei Animation and Akira Toriyama did a fantastic job and managed to achieve what they strived for in theses scenes

[@L33PL4Y]

Toriyama's Goku cares a lot more about fighting and proving his strength than his friends and family. Toei's Goku cares more about his friends and family.

[@odd-eyes6363]

@@L33PL4Y that is straight up wrong. Goku simply refused to attempt to kill Majin Buu just because he wanted to make sure Earth would have capable protectors and completely crippled Nappa (making him unable to fight Goku ever again) and told Vegeta to fuck off without engaging him immediately. Not only that, but just look at him talking about fusion to Vegeta and every other time Goku HAPPILY stepped down to let Gohan take on threats. Goku is aware of his responsibilities and does NOT put himself above his friends and family, even if he does value his fighting desire to an unhealthy amount

[@L33PL4Y]

@@odd-eyes6363 Are you pulling all that from the manga or the anime?

[@odd-eyes6363]

@@L33PL4Y All I said happened in the manga. Goku's battle hunger is indeed his main flaw, but he's not selfish to the point you said so.

[@thomasdeen2099]

​@@odd-eyes6363I believe that is after Goku has matured and decided to step down in the Cell-Buu Saga though, from Saiyan-Early Android Saga the "venom" he has for fighting and proving himself was a big part of his personality. After his near death experience with the heart virus and with everyone relying on him he changed his mindset and gave earth a second protector that they can fall back on when he can't pull out the victory, nurturing the next generation was a big step towards his maturity so I can agree with the sentiment of Goku being more self and fighting focused during Z's Frieza saga.

[@ReignofIndepence]

THE NAMES RECOOME! AND IT RHYMES WITH DOOM! AND YOUR GONNA BE HURTIN ALL! TOO! SOON!

[@Nintenerdo]

Wrestling's fake.

[@philllllllll]

@@Nintenerdo so is Dragon Ball.

[@thinmintthemonkey2435]

@@philllllllll r/whoosssshhhh it's the following line in the abridged. Dumbass.

[@philllllllll]

@@thinmintthemonkey2435 Maybe I didn't watch the abridged. Dumbass. Or maybe my reply is playing into the joke, dumbass

[@Oackii]

Flying Toaster if you didn’t watch the Abridged how do you know the joke?

[@arandomhalodude634]

1:56 Yamcha, the first person to say “kaio-what?”

[@Paintisbetterthanblueandtint]

No seriously kaio what? Kaio crap.

[@timothysamson436]

Sean’s performance in the Kai version has so much heart and energy, especially his screams, I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t the best version.

[@dylanmac7227]

Sean's scream is more of a roar and I absolutely love it, as much of a scumbag he is IRL, I still say he is my definitive Goku.

[@fudoayakashi7051]

@@dylanmac7227 masakaX and masako Nozawa is my definitive goku's

[@Chance57]

@@fudoayakashi7051 if you think Goku should sound like his balls never dropped, you're tripping. He's had two kids, he shouldn't sounds prepubescent.

[@fudoayakashi7051]

@@Chance57 you are just weak minded ningen

[@Chance57]

@@fudoayakashi7051 Irrelevant to my point. Goku wouldn't sound like a old Japanese broad with a cigarette addiction. Facts>Feelings.

[@tbhon]

I love the "And I don't care it you're a million times stronger than me" line

[@rirayejohnson8079]

I prefer kai because of that amazing orchestral music that plays when goku jumps out of the water

[@sirsmoothable]

I know right I remember seeing that so many times as a kid it was awesome

[@viletoxxie]

@@sirsmoothable if you saw that as a kid you still are a kid

[@woag7704]

vileToxxie don't know if that was a poor attempt at an insult or a joke

[@viletoxxie]

@@woag7704 the episode came out in 2010...

[@BlakeGibbons]

vileToxxie I mean being 14 in 2010 is a kid & 23-24 isn’t much of a kid lol

[@ikilledkennyubastard7053]

I say the manga did it best. The fear in gokus face is so heartbreaking when he realizes even kaioken x20 wasn't enough

[@moesabally1502]

The same thing happened in the original z anime, at least in the recap version, though.

[@nickt5985]

I have to agree. When it comes to an animated version of the scene, Kai did it best if you ask me. Sean Schemel and Chris Ayres are both FANTASTIC in this scene.

[@stevangonzalez5908]

Just curious; when you read the manga do you choose your own voice or read it with Sean schemmels Goku voice in your head or Masako Nosawa?

[@dynamicworlds1]

2:45 "*Yamcha noises*" 😆

[@Dirhe]

@@stevangonzalez5908 Mario castañeda :P

[@DBZMacky]

I always loved the Anime (Japanese) version of this scene but this video made me appreciate the original Manga version so much more.

[@JsPlace]

i have no problems with this style of video and discussion but i personally am curious, what made you decide on this style of content? I don't mean discussion obviously, i mean the comparison between different versions and opinion of the viewers. Tell me mark senpai!!!

[@TotallyNotMark]

I really wanted to introduce a format that would allow you guys to decide the conclusion. I wanted somewhere I could gush about my favourite scenes, explain why I thought they were great and to point out the differences between versions. Like an fun educational video that everyone got to take part in :)

[@XIntoxicationalX]

They're easy as fuck to make with an established system. He's going to make a shitload of these regardless

[@SwffjKk]

@@XIntoxicationalX well either Mark's explanation...or yours😂 Both seem legit so...

[@stevangonzalez5908]

@@TotallyNotMark can you do comparisons from the saiyan saga so you can include the ocean dub?

[@TotallyNotMark]

@@XIntoxicationalX I'm not sure if you've tried, but they are not easy to make. 4 days to write the script and you can clearly see the editing is polished. Took a week to edit.

[@dylanmac7227]

Kaioken is such a underrated technique, i absolutely love how it had its resurgence in super after being absent from the cell, Buu, BOG and ROF arc.

[@ICTON123]

Yeah, it felt like goku wouldnt have needed to learn it anyway, especially since he's been trying incredibly hard to master it, and then goku just gets a form that treats it like utter uselessness, especially since the kaioken isnt a form, its a technique goku uses as a form

[@Amplifymagic]

I like it for its nostalgia and an homage to the original and the fact it's hype, but as far as storytelling and power scaling goes I don't care about how Goku pulls a x10 on top of his newly obtained SSGSS transformation. It makes Vegeta look like a weakling in comparison and overinflates the rest of the scaling for the anime franchise all because Toei wanted to go off script.

[@jotarokujo8669]

@@Amplifymagic kaioken is filler if I’m correct he didn’t learn it in manga

[@Amplifymagic]

@@jotarokujo8669 yes it is anime only filler, because Toriyama’s script was so bare bone that Toei just went ahead and whipped it out of thin air.

[@ZeroYami]

@@jotarokujo8669 isn't the first two minutes of this video showing goku using Kaioken in the manga

[@richiesahlin6409]

Goku: Kaio-ken! Villian: Kaio-what? *villian gets punched*

[@BearPumpkin160]

“ITS KAIO-KEN IDIOTS”

[@imaginebeingapngtuber3124]

KAIOCRAP

[@doritos4956]

@le Zanji I thought so

[@yoboicrust]

* Clap clap * ITERATION REVIEW

[@Mystic_Robot]

Awesome video! This is also one of my favorite scenes. The funimation version has an extra punching sound during Goku's Kaio-Ken x20 attack. This makes it sound like Freeza was hit twice when he clearly dodged Goku's second punch

[@TheFFsage]

SENPAI MARK WHY DID YOU STEAL TRUNKS' TIME MACHINE?!

[@letsrank9349]

He was secretly Cell all along.

[@kirova2193]

To become Perfect Mark

[@manguy01]

He needed to be Perfect

[@NossTheBoss1993]

This surprisingly reminds me of the time my cousin (4 at the time) stepped on my brothers RC car, came to my room and said “(ME) Why did you break (My Brother’s) Toy~!” Since the house is small, everyone heard it and burst out laughing.

[@senpai8129]

Well my name isn't mark but to answer your question.. so i can be everyone's senpai

[@liammick08]

Kaoiken: short breaths, quick steps. No regrets, only afterwards. Martial arts basically. You only go all out once in a while. What manga issue was this scene in in dragon ball z? Thank you for everything you do.

[@christoskyriacou9515]

This is one of my favourite,yet one of the most least talked about scenes. Thanks for giving it the praise it deserves

[@UmbreonMessiah]

Damn Mark, killin' it with that Kamehameha. Though I'm pretty sure at this point in our lives, *anyone* going into that chant gets goosebumps if they have a soul.

[@Rex-em8xv]

Kaio wha..

[@ReignofIndepence]

Watching Abridged now lol. Recoome is literally talking shit to Vegeta like he's Hulk Hogan lmfao

[@liam148]

kaio crap

[@nickjaypro762]

@@liam148 I thought so

[@ShaolinKungfuISKF]

@@ReignofIndepence TFS

[@Erizo_x]

times wha..?

[@eqWillibrium]

My personal pick is the DBZ Kai version. Sure, it kinda misses the whole point of Goku’s character through the dialogue, but that orchestral score, Sean’s beautiful screaming, that beam…this is a moment to remember.

[@kwanyy]

i LITERALLY just came back from watching this scene

[@thatgamerquel]

Same here haha

[@kylemagaro3163]

I watch the full Goku Freeza fight at least once every few months. It's so good and I remember exactly what I was doing when I first saw it on Toonami. I didn't see the first run cause I was like 4 when it came out so I didn't have the legendary waits while funi worked on finishing the dub luckily. I got to just see every episode day after day. Coming home from school was such a treat.

[@Googaliemoogalie]

Me too, Original Japanese, which is an indication of how i'm voting

[@HaramSpongebob]

@@Googaliemoogalie the original Japanese is great but the reason Kai is the most voted is because English dub Sean schemel is an A amazing goku voice actor

[@Googaliemoogalie]

@@HaramSpongebob it's just a nostalgia. I grew up watching Dragonball in the 80s and 90s in Japanese. So I prefer the Japanese.

[@TheVideoGameFan123]

For anyone asking about the music that plays from 7:25-10:15, the song is called Chaos Incarnate by Little V

[@KrispyKIK]

Have y'all seen the Theatrical Version of this on KZbin? I think it was taken down a few years ago but it was absolutely AMAZING!

[@spartanq7781]

I remember that for some scenes. They were awesome though I doubt it still remains.

[@L33PL4Y]

What do you mean, "theatrical version"?

[@wittyjester]

The intent isn't changed at ALL between manga and anime. It is just not as subtextual anymore. Toriyama chose to focus on Goku, isolated as he really was, in this fight. Goku knew he was bested. He had found someone who was truly better than him. His curiosity to test himself was satisfied, he knew the answer he was (and is) looking for (in all his fights). But he knew he couldn't stop fighting this time (see Cell Saga, Goku's forfeit was perfectly in line with who he is; he had a great fight, found his answer, knew he could not do it and was not sad or mad or disappointed, that is just how it is sometimes, sometimes you meet someone better than you so you just go and train to improve to beat him some day, with the only thing special being that he knew Gohan would win, so there was not a worry on his mind. Where was I, again...? Ah, yes.) So back to Namek. He had his answer, his usual goal in a fight was met, but he could not stop or loose, because that meant not only the end for him (which he could've accepted, without hesitation, like with Radditz and Cell, where he knew his loved ones would be safe now) but for all the things and hopes and dreams of everyone he loved and everything he loved and found good in this world. They would loose their way of life, their spirit was in mortal peril. It was, in and for Goku, in fact nothing less but a fight for the survival of everything he and his friends, his loved ones stood for, a fight over the universe's soul. Toriyama chose the stark approach, perfectly, drawn so viscerally. An actor doing that and selling those emotions and thoughts with just his face would be getting every award imaginable and Toriyama pulled it off with a pen and two colors. The anime, as per usual in Japan, is geared towards children way more than manga. Manga is an adult medium, give or take, anime is for kids. And kids do not have the life experience and knowledge and experience of love in all its different forms. So you need to spell it out for them a little more. And sure, in that process some of the deeper and bigger aspects get watered down or pushed into the background, yes. But the important emotion, the central emotional truth of this scene is shown and told in a way even kids who don't know what all this really means/feels/lives like do get it. Understand the stakes. Understand the motives. Understand Goku's absolute selflessness. Understand that from here on out, Goku is not just Goku anymore, Goku is more than human (or, well, Saiyan), he isn't even Goku anymore, he is nothing at all. Not a thing, not a living being, nothing formed of matter. Goku has become something more. He ascended. He transformed into something beyond all that, something higher than that, something SUPER to all that. He is the force of his love for and his faith in their way of life, their spirit, given form in the flesh. (Tangent on why he is NOT the Super Saiyan here, already: He still fights with honor, with goodness, with his ideals as a martial artist, of course for those ideals. He can't beat Freezer, because his heart is too naive. Pure, yes, but naive. And only by losing Krillin, a price he cannot bear to pay, a price that rips his heart asunder, the pain is so gigantic that even stubborn, noble, proud Goku breaks and just hurts and forgets his high ideals and his pride and in that instant, his terrible might explodes out of him and burns with the fire of a thousand suns in order to do one thing and one thing only: eradicate Freezer. It is his "love, his pain and all his sorrow" (I love TFS so much... they just GET it.) given form. He still does not want to kill anyone. Not even Freezer. And he hates Freezer for making him do it. Because there, even "dumb" (just stubborn) Goku realizes, that sometimes, there is evil so big, so nastily unforgivably terrifying, that it cannot be reasoned with, it cannot be controlled, it cannot be rehabilitated. It just. Needs. To. Go. And so he takes the form of absolute destruction, ascended above anything unnecessary: the Super Saiyan.)

[@scarlessyt]

Bro wrote a whole paragraph just for no one to respond that’s tough

[@ALLCAPSFRFX]

I voted for the manga due to Akira Toriyama straying away the stereotypical hero stereotype (Yes, I am aware that I used two almost identical words in the same sentence), and Goku's doubt at the beginning (and shock that he wasn't bluffing). Although Dragon Ball Z Kai had nearly the same structure as the manga, I just like manga more but I still do like the other sorts of mediums used to show the scene (animation, as an example) Lmao, the other mediums I can think of is just animation

[@franciscorendon2783]

Nah, Dragon Ball Evolution did it better.

[@SauceGod.999]

TSU l FalcoFatalitY Though I see why he did that, I prefer that hero type since it portrays Goku as more of a hero who cares about the people around him.

[@ALLCAPSFRFX]

@@SauceGod.999 Yeah, true, I just like some uniqueness from the general hero type of character.

[@uchihaedgelord5589]

@@SauceGod.999 You saying normal Goku doesn’t care about people around him? In the original anime Goku literally rose from the water to attack Freeza in blinded rage due to him having a sort of ephiphany of what would happen if Freeza did won, and involved everyone he ever cared about dying horribly. Just because modern Dragon Ball media flanderize Goku’s fondness with fighting, doesn’t mean he was always like that.

[@Keurgui1]

Spicy Sauce Uchiha Goku already takes a stand before he fights Freeza In the anime he’s basically just repeating himself

[@kjrlightskined9804]

I feel like he’s said “this has been my favorite scene of the franchise” about every good scene 😂

[@DragonballBlack]

Murica

[@Autumnfurry2099]

Hi

[@aneta3098]

No, thank you. - The rest of the (intelligent) world.

[@joshhawickhorst4114]

I’m assuming you grew up with the dub as well? Also, just wanted to say that I love your content. Keep up the good work man!

[@Slave-of-the-most-merciful]

BlackScape I think you mean Japan

[@minhaajsalaammadatt6069]

Ningen

[@saulmendez3969]

This was the scene that got me into Dragonball Z. My cousin lent me a VHS tape with Simpsons episodes he had recorded and I had finished watching an episode and then left to get snacks because I thought the tape was done and just left it running. Turns out there was another show at the tail end and it was the last 15 minutes of this episode. It was in japanese and I had no idea what was going on but it was the coolest thing Id ever seen! The finale with Goku charging up the 20x kamehameha and the music left me stuned. Took me YEARS to finally understand what Id watched but its always stuck with me and is my favorite scene

[@rubentorres3426]

Can you please do a who did it better Goku's first time transforming super sayian or Goku VS Vegeta in Dragon Ball Z

[@xavierparis2789]

I “I Am” Speech would be great too, seeing as how it’s the most famously changed bit of the show, at least as far as I’m concerned.

[@Empty_Blank]

That would be great

[@jackychang9148]

THIS RUFFLES MY JAMMIES!

[@adendirie4337]

I say the Kai one is the best simply because his scream felt more angry that the original. I'm talking about the English dub one btw.

[@Deoxy360]

Kai, Japanese and manga versions would win. "Ally to good. Nightmare to you." Is so cringe and has aged poorly.

[@zimtub]

Manga- Toriyama’s action style portrays the impact of the blast so well!

[@joshuasimpson4021]

On the music front.... *shows Krillin singing*

[@sirgubengloben]

This whole KZbin channel hangs on the way he says “Arc” 😂

[@BigT.Larrity]

RIP those poor vocal cords

[@kyledavid9244]

The manga is okay. For me the Japanese broadcast has amazing dialogue that really emphasizes on the kaioken. I love the way Nozawa says "Fifty percent power he says" it sounds so good. I love how Funi emphasizes on the moment and how Goku didnt care if Frieza was stronger than him, he wasn't going to let his family and friends down. Its very emotional. Plus Embodiment of Fire is an awesome title. I love how Kai emphasized on the attack and moment. Plus I love the way Sean says "I gotta give it my all and show this guy you do not mess with me and my friend." TFS was funny. Cant wait for the next Who did it Better. Its hard to decide but the Jap dub is the one I watch on KZbin more.

[@JetblackJay]

I choose the manga cause u Voiced it

[@zednotzee]

yeah that was really good.

[@SweetSweetJustice]

Right ! Lol

[@lautaro_vidal]

Don't we all?

[@danjirounakahara112]

"and I don't care if you're a million times stronger" always gives me goosebumps! I watched this on toonami in 1999 and I still remember this line. Definitely the original toonami dub for me.

[@maxalain9948]

Bruh can you do the Instant Kamehameha comparison next?

[@Red-Robin2011]

If so I am hands down gonna say Kai. Once again (I mean the dub)

[@jesseamadeus5351]

If you do... Please please PLEASE include abridged.

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

The black coloured background of the manga was all I needed to know how hopeless everything seemed, that alone makes it my favourite.

[@ozone4913]

The ending of you doing kamehameha is basically everyone when they were kids.

[@Googaliemoogalie]

"when they were kids" don't pretend that you don't do it now

[@ozone4913]

Rob James you’re not wrong

[@Zwestwind]

13:10 hey Mark, ever thought of a career in voice acting

[@bruhhugo2183]

My god hes actually good

[@MrHandss]

i don't even hate the original dbz dub like so many of these youtubers and purists, but a scene like this it cannot compete. this part of z was still some of the earliest work funimation and its VAs ever did which is why they all sound different even when just comparing them to their voices in the season 1 and season 4 sets of dbz. (not talking about kai) funimation only started right about the time ginyu vs goku fight happened.

[@NeoConker626]

I don't hate the dub per se. But I did feel that their acting was wooden until Buu, and the script changes changed a lot of nuance and character motivation. One example is before Freeza gets to earth. In the original, Vegeta chews everyone out for not focusing on hiding their power, reminding them about scouters. As the former member of Freeza's army, this makes sense. He then grudgingly complements Piccolo for not making this mistake and actually acting like a real warrior, leading to shock from the humans who didn't even know he was there. In the old dub, the scene basically became a meme ("as a matter of fact... "). Vegeta screams at them to keep quiet (what?) because Freeza might... Hear them... From his space ship? Then throws an insult about them scaring Piccolo. It just makes no sense and doesn't synch up with the footage. That sort of thing was common. But once Barry Watson left and Chris Sabat + Justin Cook had more say in the company (circa the Buu Saga) things got a LOT better.

[@Withered741]

God this series kinda fell apart once YT disabled polls in videos. Rip

[@uchutv2386]

facts, they were good

[@crystalpokedude4329]

Do Who Did it Better: Trunks Goes Super Sayian for the first time.

[@joshualawson8363]

Crystal Pokedude u mean the movie or the actual anime

[@ItsAstie]

Vegeta

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@joshualawson8363 Movie vs Super vs DBZA :)

[@ilyte1]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 TFS dub wins in a landslide

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@ilyte1 Honestly I still think the movie does it better than DBZA. I know DBZA did most things better but their comedic focus of the History of Trunks actively took away from that scene. I want to cry when I see the movie, I feel very little when I see the abridged or episode version.

[@GokuandLopezfan1]

I only owned 1 manga volume growing up and it was the volume covering this scene. However, Yamamoto's score used in this scene "Yushi No Gaisen" is one of my favs and made this scene more special than when I saw/read the other versions.

[@tehpadgeth5385]

I do love Masako Nozawa's voice for Goku. But I've always preferred Shaun's performace shearly for the fact of how much he puts into his lines. I'd probably choose the funimation dub just for that fact.

[@kenalbus]

Dang, you can FEEL the intensity of emotion from the original manga. No wonder it became such a hit.

[@kulpykulptington2715]

Kai's english version is quite literally my favorite scene in the entirety of dragon ball.

[@TRussell148]

The thing about this scene is during that time the people at Funimation were basically trying to make Goku like a superhero, like Superman. They had been told that that's what kids in America wanted to see. So they made him say things like he did during the scene and also his "I and the hope of the Universe I am light I am truth I am the terror of the flaps in the night" speech. It was to make him into more of a super hero instead of a guy who just loves to fight and happens to be good natured.

[@SimplyPlatano]

My introduction to the Dragon Ball anime was this episode from the Funimation dub back in the day so I gotta say Funimation dub is my favorite for nostalgia purposes and its the first episode I ever seen

[@titantrainer592]

If I was responsible for the animate version I would have had a shot pan to Goku after Frieza stopped the Kamehameha. The shot would have Goku with a look on his face that can only be described as one of pure fear and the face of someone who lost all resolve to keep fighting with an inner monologue saying, "He wasn't bluffing" in the most distraught voice Sean Schemmel could must

[@nabilelmaniaa6581]

4:15 i love how freeza look this is the old look that i always loved

[@Dragonstar_aoe]

Found ur channel recently , gotta say ur video essays are really well made and brings up so much nostalgia . Great work keep it up :)

[@rockyrocks800]

I say Dragon ball kai was the best.

[@Joshua-rp3oc]

@@davidf2676 Gohan sound like a kid in kai my guy

[@yourmom7748]

Joshua Lol lol wut, he IS a kid man

[@modernwarrior24]

@@Joshua-rp3oc He sounds like a woman. Atleast the original sounded like a boy growing up. No one really likes the VA. Luffys is bad. Gohans is bad.

[@alfa01spotivo]

@@modernwarrior24 thats like your opinion man

[@Brandon71060]

El Duderino Bruce Falconer music doesn’t need to be in it in order for it to be good. Plus, the Funimation dub didn’t even use Falconer music for this scene to begin with since Falconer didn’t come in until season 3.

[@ThejollyFrenchman]

I'm so glad to see that other people love this scene. As a kid someone gave me three or four vhs tapes of Dragon Ball Z, out of order but all in the Namek saga, and for my whole childhood that was all I knew of Dragon Ball. This is the scene that stuck in my head and made me seek this series out as an adult.

[@jazzz1587]

The "You Say Run" version is the best!

[@link7993]

What?

[@kaichiku6335]

Am I the only one surprised at the fact that Mark nailed the Goku voice at the end ?

[@3x3DRUID3x3]

Can someone point me to the song that plays at 7:27?

[@jamesphilips1498]

I'd like to know as well

[@DreadLockedCipher]

Chaos Incarnate by Little V Mills

[@thegoldendragonacs]

Jack Thompson Thank you! I’ve been searching for that song forever.

[@DreadLockedCipher]

@@thegoldendragonacs No problem

[@magnificent0215]

Man the way you described the Manga pages is amazing you made me go and read the Manga

[@darthgoku90]

One of your next videos should be the different versions of Goku's "I am a Super Saiyan" speech, also known as his "Ally to good, nightmare to you" speech from the old Funi dub. Of course, the DBZ Kai dub nailed that scene both voice acting-wise from Sean's end and accuracy to the Japanese script.

[@BigBoiCowman]

I will ALWAYS be biased towards the 90s-2000s Funimation dub lol

[@Johten]

Savage Jesus nice opinion you got there kid.

[@dansmith1661]

@@Johten Funimation dubs for Dragon Ball uses several times more words than the original script. It wasn't made for an ADHD audience and there was plenty of minute long pauses in dialog.

[@Johten]

dan smith so? It doesn’t have to be freaking word for word. That is what makes a dub good for me. Whats the point of listening to a word for word dub anyway. A dub is good in my opinion when its original and doesn’t stick to the source material, thats plain boring and unimaginative. There were many times in Super where I can say thank goodness for Chris Sabat’s genius directing.

[@dansmith1661]

@@Johten That would be an improvement compared to the endless jabbering during tense moments. Imagine if Trunks got out of the Room of Spirit and Time and instead of the music playing, you have five people complimenting Trunks the whole time he walked out.

[@BigBoiCowman]

@Savage Jesus Dude, shut the hell up

[@Jirasu]

Anyone know any of the songs used in this video? They are all really good

[@NeonSwordsManFangattack]

Most of them are from the Z Japanese sound tracks, Z English Dub Soundtracks, and the Kai soundtracks. I don't know what the others are, like the one at 7:30.

[@Jirasu]

@@NeonSwordsManFangattack Oh okay, damn that was the one song I really wanted to figure out lmao. It's all good though thanks for the info.

[@NeonSwordsManFangattack]

I've found it. Thanks to someone in the comment section. "Chaos Incarnate by Little V Mills"

[@Jirasu]

@@NeonSwordsManFangattack It's Little V?! I love that guys music, now that you say it's from him, that makes so much sense lmao

[@Googaliemoogalie]

IMO 1.Original Japanese Dub (Animation has great flow and music is great) 2.Manga (this is the way Goku actually IS) 3. Eng Kai Dub (Freeza is on point!) 4. Jap Kai Dub (Still great, but more the same than improved and the background music is the opposite in what the scene requires and is more uplifting than a dire one last effort action scene.) 10. Early Funi Dub (voice acting isn't good, music is dated and the Superman speech is eye rolling) (I feel there should be a bigger distance between my 4th and last choice.)

[@LSSRoshi]

You really find the Funimation dub dialogue more eye rolling than the script in Kai where Goku says, "...For Gohan, Chi Chi, everyone on Earth, and the future of Namek, I am not about to give up... Less than 50% power or not, if I pull off a Kaioken x 20, I at least stand a chance. I've just got to give it my all and show this guy that you do not mess with me and my friends!" Really? That isn't cringy, corny, or eye-rolling to you?! As if Frieza is going to give out a participation award to him for trying.. the Funimation dub found WAY better wording when it came to that speech. He didn't care how strong Frieza was, he wasn't going to let anyone down. That sounds like someone that is going to overcome the obstacle in front of them, no matter what the odds.

[@daniellaw4200]

this is the best artwork in the whole series

[@Johten]

I prefer Kai for the Saiyan-Android Saga, but I prefer Z for the Cell-Buu Saga.

[@timzyt63]

This is definitely my favourite moment in the entire franchise

[@mfnormality3691]

7:27 what was the theme used when the funimation dub scene was playing

[@wsly224]

That was a pretty decent Goku voice Mark. And a pretty decent joke.

[@Vendetta336]

12:45 what's the name of the song ?

[@TheFirePhoniex837]

Love the subtle humor in your content.

[@webslinger4733]

Do Goku going super saiyan next pls

[@zednotzee]

Kamehameha vs Galick gun. Saiyan Saga. Always my favorite moment. I wanna see that one next. But first SSJ transformation is a close second

[@DragonSkyNija]

I wasn't 1 month old when Goku used Kaioken times 20 in the manga, and now I am over 33 years old, what the time have flight away.

[@World_of_KGZ]

whats the music from 7:27-10:15?

[@tombradydid9114]

Chaos Icarnate is the name of the song but I forgot who's the band.

[@ExtraExtraBig]

The Kai soundtrack is just to dang good, the music makes it a 100 times more epic than the other versions in my opinion.

[@Skillerikx]

Original Japanese Broadcast.

[@tombradydid9114]

What is the name of the background song that starts playing at 7:30 ?? Plz tell me

[@NeonSwordsManFangattack]

Chaos Incarnate by Little V Mills

[@whotrejones]

No TFS??! 😢 THIS made ME CRY! AND IT IS REALLY HARD TO MAKE ME CRY!!!

[@theopinionchannelforyou7739]

Tfs shouldn't be here

[@dyinginside-f7v]

@@theopinionchannelforyou7739 Why not?

[@yaboi6925]

That voice over you did for the manga was lowkey pretty good.

[@JayboCorp.2014]

At the moment of typing the 7 Dragon Balls have disliked this video.

[@MugApwool]

That Trunks edit needs to become a regular in this series.

[@prismsplace]

I think the Kai version did it best because not only the Japanese version had minor differences than its original adaptation which was great, but also the English Dub made it way better than its original adaptation. Sean gained the experience needed to make the scene better than his performance in 1999, putting in more emotion for Goku in that scene.

[@mirayoquese8608]

Goku's speech at the original anime version always give me chills. And the scene uses original Dragon Ball music too. By far my favourite.

[@aunyx8072]

1:02 *I c wot u did there* 🤣 *JUST MARK* 🤣

[@Epsilonsama]

What's interesting is how different the Manga is over the Anime. In the Manga Goku had no altruistic motive and was simply worried if Freeza was bluffing or not. The Anime adaptations added Goku thinking about his family and friends with the original Funimation dub going above and beyond in that direction.

[@Duzz1412]

I gotta pick the manga....i just love the Art, Akira Toriyama is definitely one of the best Mangaka in the world

[@Via_Satellite]

Holy cow does your profile look badass

[@stevangonzalez5908]

Do you make up your own voices when reading the manga or do you read with the English dub in your head for the characters? Just curious

[@ginogatash4030]

@@stevangonzalez5908 i read it with the japanese voices but in english, probably because i'm so used to reading subs while watching japanese broadcast.

[@stevangonzalez5908]

@@ginogatash4030 Nice! I'm used to the English so I would naturally read it with their voices. Now i'm curious how the Japanese VA would sound with English voices lol! You know actually Peter Kalamis who voiced Goku in the Ocean dub is probably the closest we'll hear Masako scream in English. He does a good job

[@AgentAlaska9000]

Hands down Dragon Ball Kai. The visuals, the animation, the music, and the English voice quality was outstanding. It's the definitive way to watch the series because of all it does right

[@bazingar3444]

i read this as "kakyoin" lmao

[@Lodac1977]

[ B A Z I N G A ] •Borga• SHINEI, KAKYION!

[@Autumnfurry2099]

You forgot one major difference in the early funamation dub, Freiza is voiced by a girl

[@MajinBewbs]

Goku was voiced by a girl

[@YunoGasai_1]

Frieza was voiced by Genkai.

[@TheKiroshi]

You forgot about Chris Sabot! He voiced... everyone.

[@JRacer524]

Yes it was Linda Young who now only does Fortune Teller Baba in Super.

[@paleriderpalehorse55]

What's the name of that metal song that starts about halfway through the video?

[@wildfox8775]

This scene was Legendary!

[@TheRealDarthias]

Seriously dude your Goku impersonation is fantastic!

[@Dilo22]

The Faulconer score for the Frieza/namek saga makes the difference. It's unique, and so well done. The tone, and slightly off synthesizer is completely emblematic of Frieza himself, and what he represented to the series at the time. That is, unfathomable, terrifying power that you can do little to nothing about.

[@SweetSweetJustice]

Dude the narration was great, when you read the manga. Each video I watch seems more of like a documentary, and kind of reminds me of watchmojo and blah blah blah. THIS IS NOT A BAD THING, your videos are getting better and better man, great job keep it up! You can really tell you love what you do hahaha it’s awesome

[@sahayan2619]

Funimations version of Kaio-Ken gave me literally goosebumps

[@Cuhpri]

sahayan chandramohan same

[@flexican5399]

Kaio-ken x20 “The Missing Ingredient”

[@udbhavsinha3987]

Yamomoro was soo much better in Z , it's sad he changed his style , on the other hand tate is a lot better in super .

[@flextape2067]

Agreed. The buu saga was beautiful

[@udbhavsinha3987]

@@flextape2067 when did i mentioned the buu saga ? I didn't even liked it much !

[@zednotzee]

i don't get why people always get on the animation staff for changing style. Toriyama changed his style, and the show style evolved to reflect the change in the manga

[@dannylopez5976]

The desperate sound track during the funimation english dub and how the Kamehameha was a last minute transition from a missed punch makes it for me.

[@nateriver4951]

Personally, that transition is one of the reasons I can't stand the Funi dub. In the other works, it shows that Goku is practically a dumbass at everything in life, but highlights his abilities as a fighting genius. Having the kamehameha planned ahead and gathering that ki while fighting shows more of his fighting intelligence rather than missing a punch and throwing out a kamehameha as a result.

[@dannylopez5976]

@@nateriver4951 For me its more of him using quick thinking through the pain intense he is in. Thats in the middle of what already is a desperate move of the Kaioken X20. I see his quick thinking and transition into another move on the fly is him being a well seasoned fighter.

[@nateriver4951]

@@dannylopez5976 I honestly can't see it as "on the fly." It's Goku. There's has never been a fight in Z where the kamehameha was not used. I knew it was coming. You knew it was coming. Goku knew it was coming. The only question was how. For me (it's all just opinion anyhow), I like seeing Goku as the strategist even in times of desperation. It's what separates him from Vegeta. Goku is always the one who finds a way to be clever even when he's destined to lose (IT kamehameha vs Cell, tricking Frieza with the spirit bomb, using controlled blasts to trick Frieza from underwater, planting the minefield vs Jiren) whereas Vegeta has always been the one to swing for the fences in times of desperation.

[@dannylopez5976]

@@nateriver4951 Considering the tone of the tone of the moment (especially in the Old Dub with the music) I think a moment of desperation does no harm. Just my thoughts.