Who Does Lord Jesus Say Are The "Brothers" & "Sisters" Of Mark 6:3-4?

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[@tabasco7915]

No hurry whatsoever on a response but I have an inquisitive question after watching a debate. My question is not relative to the content of your video but while watching I thought I would ask. That is, can it be proven/demonstrated that it was "NECESSARY" for the Jewish Messiah to be God incarnate to the Jewish people in accordance with God's eternal plan? Thus, this would be in response to non believing Jews, cults, Muslims, etc., etc.. In short, I know the incarnation was prophesied & ultimately fulfilled in Christ (thus the Messianic prophecies) but I am having a hard time being able to demonstrate the necessity of how divinity & the office of Messiah is mutually necessary according to the council of God. If you have a link that would be most appreciated.

[@myvaccineisjesus]

Thanks for checking out the video. Regarding your question, my answer would be in order to pay for the sin debt of ALL mankind for ALL time, in order to reconcile ALL mankind and ALL Creation back to God, it was necessary for a sacrifice of INFINITE value to be made. You see this concept of sacrifice being used and accepted by God to cover sin debt from Genesis 3:21 through Genesis 4:3-7 through Genesis 8:20-21 through the rest of the Torah through the rest of the Tanakh. So, the Son of God “Himself” (as per Genesis 22:8) had to become human, to serve as the “lamb” to sacrifice Himself (again, a singular sacrifice of INFINITE worth) to cover the sin debt of ALL Creation once and for all. Now, what we need to do to receive the benefits of the Son’s “faithfulness” is have “faith” in Him as our Lord and our God, the Messiah, the Son of God, and exhibit our own “faithfulness” by doing our best to follow His commandments.

[@tabasco7915]

@@myvaccineisjesus Yes & Amen. Maybe I'm going in the wrong direction here but as I had previously mentioned, I was watching a debate & what you had articulated had somewhat been brought up to the Unitarian. In short, they danced around the obvious & argued that Jesus did not need to be God incarnate in order to pay the worlds sin debt (1 Jhn 2:2). After hearing that & thinking about a good rebuttal to the argument, I thought if somehow it could all be narrowed down to showing the necessity of Christ having to be divine (God/man) relative to being the Jewish Messiah even apart from the overwhelming redemptive aspects, well, that would give even a stronger biblical defence to the argument of their Arianism heresy. Don't want to take up more of your time but I will continue to work on it & thanks!

[@myvaccineisjesus]

I agree. That was the point I was trying to make in my reply. To cover the sin debt of ALL CREATION, the sacrifice of a mere man (even a sinless one), or the sacrifice of a powerful angelic spirit being would NOT suffice. You would need a sacrifice of INFINITE worth, of God Himself (the person of the Son) entering Creation to become this sinless man, who would serve as the sacrifice. Btw, that’s the whole reason Abraham and Isaac were chosen to serve as the bloodline in whom the Son of God would later enter Creation. Because THAT father and THAT son were willing to do what God the Father and God the Son were later GOING to do. Take care.

[@tabasco7915]

@@myvaccineisjesus Maybe I'm missing something as I have been known to be a slow learner but is there a warranted way to render it all down to just the Jewish Messiah to the nation of Israel even apart from Him being the sacrificial lamb of God. That is, even the office of Jewish Messiah apart from the redemption necessities. Thus did even that require God incarnate to fill the office so to speak? Thus this would be relative to the nation of Israel being the womb of God's activity to the world. I mean the Unitarian would argue yeah the Messiah came through the Jewish blood line & was even prophesied but that don't necessitate Him being connotationally divine. I don't know if I am making since or not.

[@myvaccineisjesus]

@tabasco7915 - I’m not sure of what you’re asking. However, the “one like a son of man” of Daniel 7:13-14 is taught by the ancient rabbis to be the “Prince [or King] Messiah.” He rides the clouds, which would prove Him divine. He sits on one of the thrones mentioned in verse 9, along with the Ancient of Days (the person of the Father). Verse 14 states He rules over all Creation, and receives worship from all Creation. All these obviously point to Him being divine, being God. Only God rides the clouds. Only God rules over all Creation. Only God receives worship from all Creation. Thus, this “one like a son of man” (which is who Lord Jesus constantly refers to Himself as being), this “Prince [or King] Messiah” is most certainly divine, is most certainly God. Not sure if that helps.