Who Has Dating Harder - Men Or Women?

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[@nelsongalvez2567]

Men have it wayyy harder, not even close. I'll break it down. Men have to start the conversation, keep the conversation going, pay on the first date 99/100 times at best might go dutch, and let's not forget we can put in all this effort for meaningless encounters. This gets extremely tiring. Women have nothing to lose honestly, they can go on 100 dates and maybe go dutch once and reject sex everytime. Ball is in their court.

[@michaellopez9846]

i never pay on first dates

[@2livenoob]

Video chat for a first date. Don't pay shit.

[@artemsmirnov1134]

The ball is ticking

[@chelseashamim9148]

Dont women hit the wall tho

[@mgtowbooboo8530]

Women have a way of making thier advantages sound like disadvantages. How are you guys so good at it.

[@MrGaMeR777DP]

"oh no, i have to reject hundreds of men every year because I am inherently more valuable and they all want to love me for simply being a woman."

[@LukaDonesnitch]

Victims of the patriarchy.🤦🏻‍♂️

[@pablo-oq8is]

🤣🤣🤣

[@melaniebrown1443]

@@MrGaMeR777DP what if you’re not the “baddest” or “hottest” girl and guys barely look your way? 😔

[@unironicallyablueraspberry4959]

@@melaniebrown1443 Boo hoo, now you have to ask people out just like most guys do; you’re living the average man’s world.

[@DanTuber]

If women had to experience what guys go through they'd realise how easy they have it as a girl. A lot of the 'problems' you point out for girls are issues they bring on themselves.

[@amitpatel3071]

well said

[@Intension123]

Real talk and Reality.

[@corysmith3447]

why MGTOW REd PIll is growing

[@thevillainwasright2601]

DanTuber glad someone actually notices. Amen🙌

[@CommandoMaster]

For girls, the problems are all in their head and psychological issues that aren't real. For men, in reality it's really hard to date beautiful girls, especially if you're short and ugly.

[@morpheus1586]

Men still have it way harder because a lot of the things you pointed out for men are out of their control. A lot of difficulties you mentioned for women are choices made by women and in their mind by large.

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

If women are looked down upon for approaching, that means they ultimately have no choice in who they end up with other than the random guys that approached. Women certainly have some benefits, like quantity, but being unable to control who you meet is horrible in a different way. It's like voting during an election and most of the options are candidates who are subpar or candidates you have no interest in. And the few you do want to vote for nobody else wants to vote for so they lose the election. This is akin to family and friends voting against a woman's choice in a man.

[@michaellopez9846]

@@tasheemhargrove9650 no woman is looked down upon many women chase rich famous men..

[@mmastylez]

@@tasheemhargrove9650 doesn't mean they don't approach. I've seen plenty of women being the initiators during my time bouncing at a club... it literally happens all the time.

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

@cloudyyo I didn't see this response 4 months ago. You make a good point. I don't think I disagree with that.

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

@@michaellopez9846 You need to think more about this. Unless we're talking about one of the more progressive countries/cities, we know that's not true. If you're standing at line at the grocery store and a woman starts flirting with a man she just met and asked him for his number, you don't think at least half of the people waiting in line with you will assume some negative things about her? Like she's a slut, for example.

[@initiatorhater0688]

traditionally, men do all the heavy lifting in dating, one thing I've always hated and it feels like a double-standard, if a guy has the mindset that men have it harder, he gets labeled as whining or having a victim mentality, but if women feel they have it harder, more people will support them and comfort them.

[@MrGaMeR777DP]

gynocentric society, women's problems are valued over men's.

[@awardwin]

initiatorhater0688 Telling Men they are whining is victim blaming.

[@mamearcadeartworkproject4166]

This is true of society in general, not just dating. Women can cry and whine and are given a sympathetic ear and shoulder to cry on, while no one gives a sh-t about a man's problems. Not even other men

[@lennertcornette]

It's in general. Fat woman: 'everybody is beautiful in his own way, he should accept you as you are.' Fat men: 'omg he should work out, he's a lazy bum.' The only hypocrit thing about men is that they say 'slut' to women who fuck a lot, while men are considered hero's. This is literally the ONLY thing.

[@LilOBX]

@@lennertcornette it the only double standard because it so hard for men to be promiscuous. I think if it was an even playing field both sex would be judge equally.

[@dRILLINaTnIGHT]

Show me a list of women that spend or do extra to get men. NONE.

[@enniswhalen2428]

D. I. U. - As the story goes, as I can best understand it, women put much more time and expense into looking their best on a regular basis than men do.Therefore, it "entitles" them to be highly respected and approached by men for the privilege of being in their company. Something happened somewhere to make men feel that the women are not deserving of such respect,nor "entitled" to expect the courting from men.

[@CatEyedGoddess]

Wrong! 100% wrong. News flash!!! Women are individuals, like men. Just cause one guy might be an assholes doesn't mean all guys are. Just because you had fucked experiences with women doesnt mean all women are like that. For me I met a nice guy that was ugly as hell, wasn't making 6 figures but I dated him for him. He ended up breaking up with me because he wasn't over an ex. I wrote him a 5 pages hand written letter because I liked him that much, never heard back from him. When we where together the only people who said I was too attractive to go out with someone that ugly were men, not women.

[@Gameking92888]

@@CatEyedGoddess Exactly

[@matthewvelazquez2013]

I've had a couple of women 15 years my senior try to spend money on me here and there to get my attention. I'm almost 40 and these women are single mothers with kids who themselves were raised in broken homes and are consequently truly dysfunctional. Unfortunately, these exceedingly desperate dysfunctional women refuse to admit their own dysfunctionality. Instead, they will follow me into the grocery store at night after work and confront me about why I've never asked them out as if I owe them something or have made promises that have been broken, when in fact, I've made no promises at all. I have physically opened my mouth and told one of these women, " You think being tossed through a sliding glass window by your drunken stepmother is Perfectly Normal. Your situation is bad and getting worse. I want nothing to do with it." I get attraction based on the ridiculous desperation of single mothers too old to have children or the disingenuous convenience of married women. I deserve attraction that does not come from desperation. I deserve attraction that does not come from convenience. I deserve to be someone's free choice. Women need to quit coming to me like prisoners of their own situations. Women need to come to me with hearts that are free to love. I purposely friend zone these women faster than you can say my last name. On the other hand, the women away from work who are as beautiful as I am handsome who are also of child bearing age will discount me as soon as they see me or move the goalposts of financial success within the first 2 minutes of conversation. " seek first the kingdom of heaven and all else will be given besides." If we all started going to church, then men and women would look at each other, not in terms of prowess, but in terms of service.

[@manuelmanzanero5057]

@@CatEyedGoddess "Women are individuals, like men". No. It's not about that. The user wonders if women spend or do extra to get men, and the answer is: flatly no. Women don't need extra effort or any effort at all, to get as many men as they please. It's not a matter of "individual" behavior, but a biological, cultural and statistical issue. As much as it is said that "men and women are equal", the matching strategies of men and women are totally asymmetric: men have an active, extensive and indiscriminate strategy (that is, they approach virtually any living female around) and women have a passive, intensive and selective strategy (they let men compete for them and select only those in which certain characteristics are optimized, discarding the rest). This means that women have a superabundance of male offer without investment in effort or time, while men have to invest a huge amount of time and effort trying to get the attention of a single woman. This is what some in the net call "sexual market imbalance", but more serious researchers like Catherine Hakim have also recognized (under the name of "male sex deficit"). From this, do you say that those who have told you that you were too attractive to be with an "ugly" man have not been women, but men? Of course, and this confirms what I said before. That is just the male matching strategy, underway. A woman, by the mere act of breathing, lives swimming in male attention. Any woman (aware of it or not, or pretending not to be) lives surrounded by a constellation of orbiters working 24/7: when she is single, those orbiters surround her with attention and free compliments, and when she has a partner they do everything in their hand to wreck the relationship and sow doubts on both sides. I myself had to suffer that sabotage, with more or less intensity, with all the partners I have had (and one was a woman in the autism spectrum). And I've seen it a thousand times around me. So today I think it's simply not worth it, and I have no more trust, neither in women (as a partner) nor in men (as an orbiting figure around the couple, no matter if relative, friend or coworker). Women simply do not understand, nor do they care, that a man does not live courtship and relationships like them: that is, he does not live swimming in attention because he is alive and has a penis. A man, if he wants a partner, can only get it by sacrificing his time and effort. Weeks, months. Sometimes years. He has nothing, including attention, "gratis et amore": he must prove himself worth of it. Even when the other person is interested, the effort must be made by him. And it's not worth it. Nobody is. A relationship in which one side has to do all the effort and the other has all the power is not a symmetric relationship. And a relationship that is not symmetric is not a relationship, but a scam or an abuse. A relationship in which you have to do everything and the other person does nothing, in which despite all your effort you can be lied, fooled & replaced at any time by the other person, it is not a relationship, it is bullshit. But that is exactly what a heterosexual relationship means to many men today: giving much for receiving absolutely nothing in return, and without any guarantee of permanence because the other party always has other free options. Not to say that a relationship in which one person invests more than the other one is a relationship in which the two people will not love the same. You only really love what it's hard to achieve and what you fear being lost: therefore, in a relationship the person that has made all the effort does not love the same as the one that has not done anything. Guess the sex (gender, for protestants) of each person? Bye.

[@warbaby1975]

I hear women complaing all the time how they are tired of men comlememting them on their looks or how they hate when multiple guys come up to try to talk to them mean while I've never had a woman approach me, or never even got a compliment for 25 years. I've been rejected my a women that had no arms after months of chatting with her on facebook when she asked me how tall I was "I told her 5'5 she said "sorry I don't do the short guy thing". Really? so I guess being a short male is worst then not having arms?

[@kevsmith4320]

Lol You were going to settle for a chick with no arms? You Must raise your standards to say the least😂😂

[@warbaby1975]

@@kevsmith4320 Haha I don't it was really settling... She was a really nice girl and had a crazy cool sense of humor an that's what I liked about her plus she was in decent shape. Being rejected for nearly 30 years for being short and bald has made me realize that I should have any standards lol.

[@kevsmith4320]

@@warbaby1975 You have a warped sense if self image.. First of all you talked to a female with no Arms for months lol.. Guys like you are why women like her feel she can be picky.. You shouldn't even be acknowledging this Bitch as a dating option!! You ain't the only Short balding Guy on the Dating Market.. Now let's see how many bitches with no Arms are out here lol!! You clearly have self esteem issues and that you can improve on..

[@jay_cee583]

What was she typing to you with??

[@warbaby1975]

@@jay_cee583 I mentioned height and she mentioned height. I'm 5'5 under six foot tall and women make finding a decent man harder for themselves when they judge a mans qualities based on his height. American men that are 6 foot and taller make up %14 percent so that mens women automatically cut out %86 of men of their dating pool.

[@rkokan4952]

This is a no brainer obviously dating is harder for men, An average woman has way more options than an average man . sometimes a man would be lucky to get one option at all. This is why prostitution will forever be a big business. While I appreciate both sides to the argument I find the problems that you state for women are very patronising and are no comparison to the challenges men face.

[@rickyticky3350]

Agree but for the average women they will never understand that

[@manuelmanzanero5057]

@@rickyticky3350 No, simply women don't give a shit about that. Not their business, they're happy with their pool of free male attention.

[@thecoolcario9048]

Let me answer the question in 1 second. Men, next topic.

[@AnimeTube7Junior]

Men WITHOUT A DOUBT have it harder. Women have their challenges I know, but honestly imo it's not even close.

[@AnimeTube7Junior]

By the way great video Hayley. You made good arguments on both ends, but this is my opinion.

[@R.O.T.C._SEEM]

The only challenge they have is figuring out what exactly they want

[@dtosmanm4743]

@@AnimeTube7Junior She did not. Female argument is based on abundance. Do you think out of those few women to pick from for the average male they are better then the 100s of options of a woman? No. But since they have no choice they pick the women they have despite their flaws. Women are having problems because they try to pick the flawless men out of those 100s interested.

[@rascal211]

Yes men can go years without even one date and several rejections.

[@Jambuc829]

L Lance I agree. 6 out of the 10 women I approach just completely ignore me and the other four will stop long enough to say. “I have a boyfriend”

[@brian5682]

as much as i love haley's advice, i have to say this is wrong as she is looking at this from the wrong point of view. it a demand and supply rule, even an average girl will have a plethora of guys she can choose from while an average guy will have a hard time even getting a date let alone a partner.

[@CommandoMaster]

An attractive girl really doesn't understand what short and ugly guys have to go through just to get a single date, let alone a partner.

[@Jambuc829]

Commando Master A black guy living around women who are not black has it harder than short guys. I’m 6’1 I see women who are 5’5 reject me for guy who are Mexican like themselves and that are 5’4

[@kingkang6877]

I'm from the future (2021) and yes, this still exists today

[@DuckFanDane]

@@Jambuc829 I don’t really believe that because black men who are in shape and very tall like that studies have shown they are some of that they’re actually like the most popular type of man that women are attracted to yes there are some women that want to date inside the race just like black women want black men and it is very common for if you live around Hispanics to have them date Hispanic men even if what you said is true that’s the extreme minority. I mean I’m 61 but I’m overweight and I don’t make a ton of money so height is only one thing that you need to have like if you’re broke have no game and are overweight like me you’re not gonna get women now I am working on changing that but it’s a process . I understand I am unattractive to women but usually height isn’t the only thing if height was one of the only things there would be more people tall who have girlfriends and I would have a girlfriend but if you’re overweight or you don’t make that much money yeah it’s going to affect it especially if you don’t look the most handsome or like a giga Chad

[@rubencordero8380]

@@Jambuc829 Bs, I seen plenty of black guys get White or Spanish girls.

[@TAEHSAEN]

"Having 100s of messages in your inbox" is a rather good problem to have. Women get discouraged by so many messages. Oh my. I guess I should forget about my experience of getting rejected over and over again because its nothing compared to 100s of requests women get.

[@Raphael4722]

Haha

[@snakesghost7817]

I was laughing pretty hard at your comment. I've seen women complain like "yeah, we have to filter so much" and I'm thinking "that is a good problem to have !"

[@ferskay]

Jaja Exactly,it's like saying having no money in your bank account is equally stresfull as having tons of it because you have to count it

[@oliverqueen9886]

@@ferskay that's a great comparison. I'm sure most men would be happy if they got 100s of messages from women all the time. Unfortunately most men dont have women constantly messaging them, chasing after them or approaching them in public Unless their a rich man or a famous actor, rockstar, pro athlete, celebrity, ect. Then they have the control in the dating world for once.

[@ferskay]

@@oliverqueen9886 one thing that actually bothers me is the fact that when people talk about equality, they neter put this on the table

[@bermei5187]

As a 33 year old man who's been alone for all his life, nothing is worse than that loneliness.

[@rickyticky3350]

I'm going to Mexico to find one. I know they are easier to get because of the lack of men there is out there. When I went to the south part of Mexico I found a Mexican gf in about two weeks when I arrived there for business. I know Spanish because I studied Spanish and I worked for the big oil companies in Mexico it's a paradise for foreigners in Mexico when it comes to Mexican women. Believe me there feminity is so strong you feel like your a true masculine man. As a gringo in Mexico you will find a hot girl and get married soon. Even the old grandpa in Mexico have the hottest chicks in Mexico. It's a paradise for most men in Mexico I envy those guys. But I'm going back there in a year to find my self a wife and don't worry in South America the average guy has girls orbiting around them. Why? because of the shortege of men. Women have a bigger competition

[@manuelmanzanero5057]

@@rickyticky3350 Keep dreaming. Someday, someone will must invent a name for the male syndrome of: "Oh, women here are all fucking bullshit, but abroad they are all beautiful, smart, feminine, wet like a bulldog's snout and the place is a paradise for men." It's even funny to see how men in every country say the same crap to fool themselves.

[@CommandoMaster]

Loneliness is painful, but on the bright side at least you don't experience physical pain due to health conditions or body issues that are outside of your control.

[@LukaDonesnitch]

If you learn not to base your happiness on another person, especially women, you'll be better off. If you keep going down this route and thinking a woman will make you happy, you're going to disappoint yourself all the time & she'll disappoint you too.

[@Jambuc829]

Ricky Ticky Well I’m in south Texas and Mexican women are impossible to get

[@mgtowbooboo8530]

I can't believe you even have the nerve to act like it is comparable. Men have it way harder.

[@kylesapphire1820]

Mgtow Boo Boo true words of wisdom right there

[@moodswingz418]

Well she gave points to both side. Yes I agree men have it harder but women have alot of complications as well.

[@pm2669]

men actually do

[@vitamindealer7915]

Men don’t slut shame women nearly as much as women do it to each other. The SINGLE thing I’ve told female friends is don’t go fucking around without protection, that’s stupidity and dangerous.

[@peterrfowler16]

Hilarious

[@stotterotter8003]

Only a woman can seriously ask this question. Men and biology knows who has it harder. 😂

[@Chickenpesto2468]

It’s gotten way worse doe like girls are crazy picky now

[@jamie49868]

Men have to date women. There is no question as to who has it harder. Men by a factor of 1000.

[@tylerdecker6994]

jamie t duh

[@tylerdecker6994]

Fat women get more attention than a good looking guy

[@thevillainwasright2601]

Is this a serious question ? Of course it’s men. Women are and get to be more picky while men usually are the ones dealing with rejection and having to deal with the stress of trying and pursuing. And we get judged by women in so many ways

[@bonezbaaaby]

But what about age? Isn't it easier for women when they're younger, but easier for men as they get older? Men always want younger women correct? Past 40 though there are more women than men. So there are more women messaging men online around that time.... Correct? Don't women past 35-40 not have as many options? But I do get a lot of younger men messaging me being 34 and I've dated younger 1/2 the time and I've also heard of a 50 yr old friend having men in their 30s want to date her so idk...... I find older men even a year older narcissistic and controlling idk what it is

[@jbrealestate7155]

​@@bonezbaaaby I am a 37 year old handsome man who is financially stable, not short, and has no kids and a 45 year old woman who has kids could get on any dating app and get three times the amount of matches I would

[@Brandon_66]

Do women not realize that men would rather them make the first move? Who's shaming women for making the first move? Makes no sense.

[@randomdude2287]

Exactly

[@SerginhoSM9151]

It's just victimhood

[@billhollis1888]

Ashamed by other women 99.8% of the time. Almost never by men.

[@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj]

I think it's definitely harder for men. Most men will look past a woman's flaws if he finds her attractive. And to be attractive all she needs is to look nice and have a pleasant personality. Now guys on the other hand have the burden of performance. If a guy isn't perfect in almost every way while they're on their first date, there's a 90% chance the girl will fault him for it and not give him a second chance. Most women have at least 3 back up guys while most guys struggle to get 1 girl, let alone a back up girl.

[@zking007_8]

It’s scary how true this is

[@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj]

@EDITS acttractiveness for men is not only based on looks. I don't know what you base their attraction levels on but did you take into account resources, status, personality (confidence and humor)?

[@frostyazurez2203]

@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj bruh

[@milanpospisil8024]

@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj But I also value women by her intelligence and how much money she can earn. Im attracted to successful women and I have one as my GF (nearly wife). She is great. I would probably never date average (in terms of success) women.

[@MrGaMeR777DP]

Just from looking at the chart alone, men have it much harder. It is much better to be overwhelmed with choices than have none at all. It is much harder to approach or lead than it is to be approached or receive/follow. High standards are impossible for men to have because women receive hundreds of interested men in their 20s alone.

[@tj-co9go]

No, high standards are definitely possible. But they mean I will die alone. However, that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

[@R.O.T.C._SEEM]

All females have to do is exist and they will have thousands of men to choose from. A man actually has to train in order to attract a woman and keeping her interested

[@celsothedevil]

the girls these days... when i show im interested its done, they act like they dont ever wanted, ( its not even as if im showing way too much ) and them they go out saying we men dont want relationships...

[@orangechoco6362]

Celso Henrique that is exactly the mistake you are making you don’t show enough care. Care about her more and she will be urs.

[@Plutonic_Blue]

orange choco this is the biggest fucking lie. The more you care the more women get turned off. This is why they be fighting tooth and nail to stay with the obvious disloyal fuckboi. Seriously women’s thinking is very complex it’s not this Disney bullshit they’re into

[@nathanielcava4128]

Day Off same. I show I care and then they say “you’re too gentle”. Well fuck remember that next time you bombard me with your issues lol

[@SerginhoSM9151]

@@orangechoco6362 I hope you are making fun.

[@devonjenkins6829]

Lmfao she just doesnt want to admit 100% men have a hard time dating she even afmits women have more options and choices so that end the discussion right there because men just dont have those options..

[@Raphael4722]

Men have it harder. I understand the stuff about women being shamed but the later arguments about "overwhelm" and "high standards" don't sound like negatives at all. Looking through messages and men's profiles surely can't be much harder than for example looking through job adverts as a highly qualified person.

[@rossgoldberg5201]

I used to believe that too. However, I realized that women are approached by creeps of all kinds (including potential rapists and perpetrators of sexual assault). Also, believe it or not, but men with game ultimately have more options than ALL women regardless of how hot and charismatic a chick is. Mr. Locario, the bad boy of the dating game, even did a live stream session about this called men with game have more options than women. With great game, you become like a king who can get any kind of woman HE WANTS.

[@rainoffire24]

@@rossgoldberg5201 "but men with game ultimately have more options than ALL women". Mr. Locario and men with game are an exception to the rule. Yes, they exist. However, they are far less common than the average man who struggles to get a woman to even respond to them. I will say that i think dating is more dangerous for a woman. Their are some men out their who have all the wrong intents and to say that sucks would be a gross understatement. btw, i didn't watch the full video. So if these have already all been touched on than i apologize for the repetitiveness.

[@rossgoldberg5201]

Well, I wouldn’t go as far as saying that successful players like Mr. Locario are an exception to that rule. However, yes it is true that there are far less men who are good if not great with women like Locario is than guys out there who are barely okay or suck with women. That’s what makes guys like Locario stand out to women as the alpha males of the world of dating and socializing. Hence, they are right away seen as the hottest choices for any women. This is especially true for alpha males who have at least a few “beta male” traits such as having the resources to provide a women with and feeling totally ready to commit to a woman they truly love. Having good looks, loads of money, and high status are most of the time considered by women to be only bonuses for them. It’s the social charisma and masculine dominance of a man’s man that primarily turns on even the hottest women in the world sexually. Not only that, but also the alpha males are able to command a much greater level of respect than the average guys out there who are all looked down upon for being too weak, too indirect, and too boring. However, if a man has the charisma and masculinity of an alpha male, and has good looks, then he will automatically be perceived by so many women in the world as one of the sexiest men alive to have sex with. Now, if he isn’t so good looking or hot, but is still highly charismatic, very masculine, and is a rich dude, then he will still be able to have sex with a lot of hot women and will be seen by women (especially gold diggers) as one of the most appealing providers to have as a long-term partner. Though, if he’s only average looking or physically unattractive and doesn’t have much money to provide a woman he likes, but has a high status within his social circles or social networking and has good game with women, then he will always command the highest level of respect from both women and men and get numerous hot babes to sleep with. If he has looks, money, status, charisma, and masculine presence then he will be seen as the ultimate wet dream of women for sex and a long-term relationship (if he also has a few “beta male” traits). However, having stated all of that, a leave part of the game is a numbers game and no matter what you do or what you have as a man, you will never be able to get more than about a 1/3 of women you wanna fuck.

[@rainoffire24]

@@rossgoldberg5201 i can't figure out if you're disagreeing with me, agreeing with me or both.....

[@rossgoldberg5201]

@@rainoffire24 I am somewhat disagreeing with you. What don't you get from what I just said?

[@otsutsukiindra2647]

Men's requirements for women: - Not be fat - That's it Women's requirements for men: - Be tall - Have a nice body - Be tall - Make loads of money - Be tall - Paying for everything Did I forget something? . . . Oh yes . . . - BE TALL

[@devonjenkins6829]

If we stay single to long we are called gay.. and we do get those same questions about kids and marriage..

[@richlaw666]

Ive been single for over a year after being married for 11 and gave up even trying. Can send out a 100 messages and get no replies because they are looking for the top top guys that are just playing the game

[@rjf5285]

it's called hypergamy

[@theredninja2817]

Men have a hard time dating it's way harder for them

[@lennertcornette]

'oh no, dealing with all the attention is as hard as men getting 421754 rejections in their life and getting 1/50 messages answered by women. The horror the horror!'

[@gm9460]

How is having the luxury of having high standards and being very picky a negative ? In any universe Clearly all the points are supposed to mirror each other but it just goes to show it isn’t balanced at all - and I expect the creator knows this

[@2livenoob]

Women are saying the food on the buffet isn't good enough, Men are saying they don't even have a plate. Its not comparable.

[@chrissinha3931]

They should definitely have a weight verification badge for women. That would be hilarious

[@a55tech]

I did not notice the Tinder height verification was an April Fool's joke. Totally thought it was real, bet most women were disappointed it wasn't real. Women have it much easier to improve SMV. You can change your weight but not your height.

[@FeralLogic]

Clicked for the comments. Wasn't disappointed.

[@willclouded]

Comparing height and weight is different weight you can control and height you can't

[@wesman3000]

I love how you posed a question and didn’t really answer it.

[@truthlemonade9793]

I think this video is really rude to men. 1. She acknowledges that men often send out dozens of messages and get zero responses. This is much harder than the woman's role of sifting through those messages. 2. Lifelong bachelors are considered to be losers. If women are pestered by their families about being single, it is because those women are up to their eyeballs in opportunities which they are eschewing. I admit that bachelors don't get questioned nearly as often about being single, but that is because it is a cruel question. The answer is almost always, "No women will date me." 3. The Friend Zone. Men need to ask themselves, "Am I really in the Friend Zone?" You might not be. Maybe she doesn't even want your friendship. Men need to also ask themselves, "Does she deserve my friendship?" Very often, my female friends have been boring, unreliable, expect me to entertain them, and in at least three cases, have cruelly publicly humiliated me about being single. I friend dumped them pretty quickly, and frankly, am quite wary of female friends now. I find that the chance of a rewarding friendship is low, while the chance of a negative experience is very high.

[@shaunedwards4893]

What kind of stupid question is that. Everybody knows that men have it harder. Women just go along for the ride. It sucks for men.

[@richtamati9959]

STOP SAYING WOMEN ARE HIGHLY SHAMED IF THEY APPROACH GUYS, IM SICK OF IT! You of all people hayley should stop spreading this lie used an excuse to try and level the unfair playing field. Be the first woman in the world to admit it....Guys have it harder....why is that so hard to accept.

[@mattm7378]

Watch a video on KZbin called "Dating Women Made Me Understand Men". A bisexual woman begins dating women for the first time. She starts realizing how easy women have it in the dating world when she runs into the problems that men regularly run into

[@Ibanez7114]

This is garbage. We can talk about issues and nuance that each sex faces in dating but the FACT that women are rarely single or dateless as long as men are tells you everything you need to know. Id rather get 99% bad attention and 1% good than no attention for years on end.

[@MisterTutor2010]

Women's Complaints about online dating can be summarized as getting many approaches with only a fraction of them being any good. Men's Complaints about online dating can be summarized as having to make many approaches to achieve even a response and that response has a high probability of ghosting. The women's complaints about online dating are significant but compared to men's complaints about online dating, they are are NOTHING. The problems women face only require a small fraction of the effort and patience men's problems require.

[@Haywire5714]

the funny thing about this is that the statement "only a fraction of them being any good" also applies to men, but most people assume only women have this problem. So even though you get 100x less matches as a man then women do ... the matches you do get are usually complete trash, usually obese or single mom, or women who think they bring more to the table then they actually do. And men have the additional problem of getting ghosted wayyyyyy more often by these shitty matches.

[@Lifeskeyishappiness]

Definitely men, women tend to be much more selective and have more choice plus men are expected to make the first move and as a result risk rejection.

[@JoseRamirez-pt1sw]

In my personal opinion I think men do have a tougher time finding dates; women just have to sit around and be beautiful, and most of the time guys will come more times than not to them. To the contrary if a man learns how to be funny, confident, outgoing, masculine, likes to work out, and take care of himself, than there's no competition the man gets the girl because more times than not women usually are looking for these traits and characteristics. Of course women like many different things no one really knows not even women themselves know what they want in a man to the men out there you're welcome.

[@jasonashley9853]

You don't learn how to be funny buddy. You either are or you aren't. Take it from a guy who isn't funny.

[@dyahns]

Same with outgoing, especially when it means shopping and dining out.

[@Weaseldog2001]

Most of your negatives are restrictions that women let their women friends impose on them. Because I'm only 5'8" and balding, many women women made it clear to me that I should never ever approach women, and that I would never date or marry. I quit approaching woman, and then women started hitting on me. I've been happily married to a woman that approached me first, for 28 years

[@koolandblue]

This is seriously like asking "who has a tougher time building muscle? Naturals or Steroid Users?" Sure, a steroid user has to watch out for things like side effects and needs to manage his cycle properly to make sure he doesn't take too much. And he also needs to do the work and put time in the gym. But overall, everything he does will be easier and gains will come in consistently and reliably. Even if he doesn't know what he's doing, he will still get great results. Same concept with women- yes, she needs to do some work to filter out creeps and weirdos and watch out for her safety, and she has to worry about her reputation if she's too easy. But overall, her hard work and efforts will carry her so much farther than a guy's will. She will also have many more opportunities to improve her skills and knowledge than a guy will because of her wide selection of willing guys. Now, with dating apps being so readily available, all she really has to do is "show up." If she does make the first move, all she has to say is "hi" or "what's up? :)" and she'll very often get a response. There's really no comparison. But if you don't believe me, have 20 guys and 20 girls switch profiles online. Watch the guys easily and quickly filter out bad matches and have at least 4 prospective good matches by the end of 2 weeks. Watch the girls struggle and reach the point in which they're ready to throw their phones at the wall in frustration trying to get even 1 like back, or come up with something really creative and original to say when a girl's bio is "Hi! Just looking! If ur interested hmu!" and her profile pic is a bathroom mirror selfie.

[@LaserPenguinGames]

I like how she omits so many more problems men have like having to pay for the date, keep the girls constantly entertained or they ghost , not being able to find a virtuous girl who hasn't been around the block 100 times or already has 2 kids with another man and so many more. Women pretty much just have to be not fat and they can get a date whenever they want everything else pretty much falls on the men.

[@RapidBlindfolds]

you had me up until a woman being 'virtuous'. who gives a fuck? use christian mingle if thats your bag

[@MrT-uo1ss]

When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.

[@manuelmanzanero5057]

Seriously, is the question in the title a joke?

[@awardwin]

Would you rather have too many choices or no choice at all?

[@rjf5285]

hypergamy in women is getting confused with high standards. Women cloak hypergamy with the words high standards. Get off your high horse and have realistic standards and good men will magically appear.

[@thisguysgaming7246]

I don’t date cause it’s too much effort and also I have goals in life I wanna follow and if she doesn’t like my goals then it won’t work out

[@tylerdecker6994]

Is that even a question

[@spik330]

1:26 This is such a myth. I have never seen a women face backlash, for making the first move, more that them facing backlash for being the wrong body type. (it happens but its not a common thing). This feels like the same myth that guy's don't like tall girls (most guy's don't care or even like it, A tall girl normally thin and has nice legs, which are both very attractive traits). 2:56 Though I agree that this is a thing, I think the modern era is making this less and less. Most of the time the type of people who do are either older/religious folk (who have sexist old school values) or people who so really see them as human (these are people who the the expectation that you will be easy because you have a high number of sexual partners), both of which I don't think you want to get to know. 4:59 This one has always confused me, as It takes time to get to know someone and understand them. Women Hate it if a guy move to fast but at the same time also count the seconds. It feels like a lose lose for the guy. I think this is a point that genders won't agree on because, as a guy, I want to be in a relationship with a best friend and enjoy every moment I have with them (take it day by day and watch the sun rise). But like what she said, I feel like women are watching the clock, like the only way they will be happy and enjoy the moment is if they have everything together by a certain age or time. (I get it kids are a thing, but at the same time, you should have kids with the right person, not just a person that you settle for because time is running out). I am friends with most of my ex's and every time I come out of a relationship, I am sad that it didn't work out but I am proud to say that I enjoyed it. The time we spend together was a lot of fun and if I could go back in time I would do it again. Thought I don't know that many women who feel the same as me. However at the same time, do you know how insulting it is to say that it was a waste of time. Both the man and the women put in the same amount of time into a relationship, why was your time a waste and theirs wasn't. If you felt like your time was a waste, you could have tried harder to not make it a waste and enjoyed, so that on you not them. 5:24 With the predominance of social media and booty models, I find that men tend to have higher standards than they should, predominantly in how a women looks. 5:56 I object, Guys standards are low because few women will date them, but women standards are high because they date more and there time is worth more; Why would you change why the standards are different for men and women, seems a little sus. Most people don't know what they want, men and women. I know women that say they want this list of things but when they find that person that fits that list, the relationship doesn't work out or the reject him because 'he just wasn't right'. As you said about the guy's standards, its a simple supply and demand problem. Women have have higher standards because they can filter out the hundreds of men that are fighting for her attention and pick the one she likes the most. (5:59 again we hear women's time is precious (aka worth more than men's time) and they don't want to waste it, again this sounds like a really bad mental state and you should probably see a therapist) 6:18 Friend zone hurts for guys, if not a little more, just as much as it does for women. This is because, as a person, you have someone who has aspects that you like and feel like you would get along well, and these ideas are backed up with the fact that your friends with them so there must be common ground. However when we are placed in the friend zone, it does feel like a standard rejection but more like a character assassination. You don't know how we will be in a relationship, yet you feel like you already know it won't work out. It feels like you made no consideration of trying one date let alone it working out; You have dismissed us before we even started and that's why it hurts. (I know this will get flack, "a women does owe you shit for consideration she can do what she wants to". I'm not red pilling or trying to say one person owes another person something just for being friends, just explaining why it hurts). I can put this in a different perspective; Your working job, that you enjoy, and a position, that is one up from your current position, becomes available so you try hard to get that promotion. You feel like your doing your job really well, your performance is up ect. Now comes the part of the promotion, so you have a schedule meeting with your manager, you both sit down and talk, and they hits you with the "I don't feel like your a good fit for the promotion". That's it, that's he doesn't tells you about why you shouldn't be promoted. You try to show him all of your great work and how this promotion would allow you do be even better, I mean is basically the same job just with more responsibilities, but they don't want to hear it "its a no, let it go". If that happened to you I can guarantee that you definitely are not going to feel to happy and might even start looking for another job. Moreover how would you feel if the position or similar ones became available again and you get shot down the same way each time. Its going to hurt a lot. 6:44 How on earth does wanting/trying to be in something more serious translate into them wanting to use you? I'm so confused at how you did that logic leap you did there. I would put the ending disclaimer at the begging.

[@LeeEverett1]

85% of men are completely invisible to women because not all of us are tall, have the perfect beard, the chiseled jawline, or making 150K a year. Women put those things as a priority for a suitable partner so she remains single by choice until she can find that one guy who has those things. Dating for women is like going down the chip aisle and picking whatever flavored brand you want out of all the others.

[@looney3302]

As a tall dude, I stand high for the shorteys in respect of their troubles

[@TheErilaz]

Norah Wincent actually tried to be a man for a year in the book Self-Made Man: My Year Disguised as a Man. She tried to date, but failed spectacularly. Vincent asserts that, since the experiment, she has gained more sympathy for the male condition, stating, "Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together." It's a recommended read for women who wants to gain some insight into how it is to be a Man.

[@vitamindealer7915]

Think this room temperature broad went online as a guy, and sent out messages to actually see how it felt?

[@artemsmirnov1134]

Men don't care.

[@SandTguy]

It never secse to amaze me. How you women seem to make it as if women have it harder. Then guys in the dating world. Lady You have know damn idea what hard is in the dating world. Now thanks to the Metoo movement as not only made it harder on the guys. It has some how made us the bad guy and the problem. So don't give me this women have it just as heard or hoarder crap because that's what it is. It is crap. What women have done is take away a system that has been in place. Since the dawn of man and mad it a mockery. The system was never broken and it did not ever stink and it shure as hell should never been sturd.

[@JM-05]

lol, "overwhelmed(by lots of matches)" and "high standards" are in the woman problem category. I'm done here, what a joke.

[@joshgetts1635]

Whoa is me all this attention

[@YoFckyou]

Men struggle for NATURAL reasons. Women struggle for CULTURAL/SOCIETAL reasons. The latter one implies a CHOICE. This is not very flattering for feminism, where is women's ability to choose and give a big finger to society's expectations ? Excellent video !

[@conradkelly8101]

Oh. My. God. There is NO COMPARISON. Men have it WAYY harder

[@nickbagwell48]

Women simple, just yes or no Men try harder.....i always fails

[@Koasterking212]

You don’t even need to make a video about this. Men have it harder by light years. Women are more valued in society and they know that, thus they raised their standards. Guys have to do all the work, all women have to do is say yes or no. Any problems women have with dating are their own doing. If they say their lonely, it’s because they’re rejecting every guy that approaches them.

[@breannanorthrup5498]

the idea that women are more valued is society is fucking laughable. You don't value women. You value sex.

[@kylesapphire1820]

It’s unanimous, everyone in the comment section agrees that men have it harder; stop trying to even question weather men or woman have it harder

[@fwwaller]

So basically what i interpreted from this video is that women being judged for their decisions is somehow worse than men going through all kinds of emotional and physical suffering for the loneliness and despair they face because of all the burdens they have to deal with in modern dating

[@colinoscopy4750]

No man really wants to actually "date" in the way you mean it. it's just the bullshit process we are forced to put up with to acquire a partner.

[@mistercool3859]

Women get hundreds of messages from men online. Guys get one message for every one hundred messages (well, at least I do).

[@varnasblade]

I really think men have it worse simply because as my cousin Shahid she hasn't had a boyfriend in a few months and she was just going to pick a guy she knew liked her, while I have been so depressed from being alone for years suicide seemed like an actual answer to my pain

[@reffreyplayspokemon8241]

Getting guys as a girl is as easy as just typing to some dude "let's smash."

[@ShnobbsReal]

Men do. End of story.

[@sidrat69]

Lol! Try acting out Hayley's 'advice' here in Central London when approaching women and see what happens. In recent years every time I've approached women here in London in a non-creepy normal way they tell me to get lost or "go do one"! I remember one girl I was approaching even shut me down before I even opened my mouth to talk to her! And another woman was giving flirtacious signals to me whilst we were both waiting at a bus stop and when I responded to her overtures she started shouting to everyone that I was harassing her!! And she was the one looking at me to begin with trying to get my attention! You do hear stories of women giving false signals to men in order to entrap them and hurl false accusations at them. As a consequence men are now far more reluctant to approach women and Hayley knows this which is why she's desperate to give out this 'advice' as women are now complaining that men are now reluctant to approach them. Hmm.. I wonder why? 20 years ago or so it was far more straightforward to approach women and chat them up without any fear of backlash. I had many dating opportunities because of this. Men these days are not so lucky. Unfortunately in recent times the #Me Too and 3rd Wave Feminism movements have killed the art of flirting and approaching women not to mention killing relationships and commitment between women and men. So sad what it's come to but this is what 3rd Wave Feminism wanted and the brainwashed women around the world that believed it were not astute enough to see how mendacious and damaging the movement and it's aims are.

[@mrconscience2322]

Imma ask girls this question Who supposed to pay for the first date 👀? Ponder.... You know the answer...... This alone is why dating will always be harder for men 😂

[@moodswingz418]

Letting you know it's sad. On first dates it's best for each to pay for their share. I mean first date can 50% go wrong. If girls wait for men to pay for first date they are Gold diggers. It's the same for men who wait on women. So my final answer is each pay for your share of the bill and that's it. I'm a girl and I've paid my share on every first date. Turns out I'm now a lesbian and my relationship lasted longer with a women than a man.

[@breannanorthrup5498]

Maybe I didn't spend $50 getting more make up and beauty stuff for the date maybe I would be more willing to pay. Even though I split most of the time.

[@chaitanyagupta6668]

​@@breannanorthrup5498 but women don't wear pretty dresses and makeup to impress men. How are women gonna change stances at this topic on need basis. When you gotta appear powerful, you do it for yourself but when you can weaponise it, we do it for you. Women ☕

[@Matthew_Scan]

Men they have to make the first move

[@manuelmanzanero5057]

The first move? And the second one, and the third, and the fourth, and the 155th. The only movements that women make throughout a relationship are those of choosing and discarding their partner.

[@josephlewis1912]

Looking for a womans response and its all guys in the comments. I feel you my brothers

[@maxscuderi514]

That's because women know that men have it infinitely harder and they will get torn to pieces if they comment

[@McNeck-wy3vb]

I'm still wondering If this "women get shamed when they make the first move" is true at all, or if they simply shove their own responsibility in Dating away. I can't remember a time when the guy didn't appreciate the woman make the first move... And even if the "society" would shame them... What exactly are we talking about. Do all strangers find out what she did, whispering "wh*re" as she passes by...? Yes, there are people who can't take a woman taking measures herself, that is unfortunate... But technically men aren't glorified either when approaching a woman...

[@kennylanqua6512]

Maybe they might have the thinking of a woman being perceived as too easy if she made the first move, and that if she makes the first move, how many other dudes has she done this (and spread her legs for) previously.

[@McNeck-wy3vb]

@@kennylanqua6512 Just for information, who are you referring to regarding of who would think that way? Either man or woman, it is from my point of view a very stupid mindset someone can have. Are man cheap if they approach a dozen women a day? It might be true that some people like the chase and the challenge of "pursuing" a woman, but that goes mostly for players who wants to play the game rather than considering the womans effort. And also, if a stranger thinks stuff like "how often has she done this" or "that is easy", he should just back Off. Putting a lady, who takes her love-life into her own hands, in a certain box... Instead he should be lucky having a Chance in meeting a potential partner, or friend etc

[@mlaruex]

how can someone compare man height to female weight?? you have no control about height. however you have full control of your weight. men being shamed for their height (only 6'6+ need apply) thats like women shaming for cup size (only C+ apply), and even that isnt exactly true, as there is stuff you can do to increase your cup size

[@frankriquelme4623]

Try being a 5.5 tall dude, the top 5% of guys 6 feet,6 figures and 6 pack and a chad or Tyrone and you still have it harder than an average woman period

[@Weaseldog2001]

As women say, men really have no excuse for being shorter than 6'. Hit the gym and get taller, they say.

[@santostracey93]

At the end of the day, it’s usually the women who has to PICK you, the guy. It’s either 👍 or 👎. This is just what I’ve seen and experienced.

[@mriphone1000]

That's why the average guy should not really try to date and just work on themselves 95% of the time, because he'll see results from that, and eventually the women he would want will chase him. Women want strong, developed intelligent men, not weak soyboys who will put them on a pedestal.

[@rickyticky3350]

I agree we should stop giving all the power to women by not approaching anymore.

[@navikeshnaidu6958]

Ricky Ticky agreed brother, but then they will become clueless sitting ducks and don’t know wtf to do when all the men are gone.

[@Leggs013]

Men's. 100%

[@Aw3someOpZ]

“I’m gonna prove how guys have it harder dating, but I feels like w0men have it harder because I said so.”

[@ItsComplicatedChannel]

So women are worried about society’s rejection and men are worried about the woman’s rejection. Either way, there is a risk of rejection, but women have the PRIVILEGE of having more options so they don’t have to take those risks.

[@ramlasis7358]

True , but men have the PRIVILEGE of dating at any age ; women don't only in their 20s and 30s and the moment she hit 40 she has zero options and no man wants her.

[@zulkaangie7305]

I do not give women my time and I’m so happy I’ve been single for 4 yrs and I’m threw playing games and I’m so blessed and happy that I’m single. 💙💙💙💙💙

[@MisterTutor2010]

Women are fed with their time being wasted? Doesn't seem to prevent them from deliberately wasting men's time.

[@awardwin]

Guys are shamed for being creeps & perverts. Women are privileged in the dating market because everything about dating is for the purpose of seeking their approval. Women have it hard when they think they can’t have their first choice.

[@angriboi]

As hard as women may have it in other aspects of life, it shouldn't even be a question that men have it way harder than women in dating. I mean, finding a guy as a woman is just ridiculously easy. Finding a good one is another topic. But finding a woman at all is almost impossible for most guys.

[@tameone]

Any women that thinks those strenghts are negative like she is saying, deserve to be alone forever! This video is so ridiculous to me. A guy told her she looked really good for her age and she took that as a negative. Women dont go up to short guys and say, you look good for your height! I dont even think she actually believes the things shes saying

[@Chorus696]

It is very hard out there, no hope.

[@yanmanuelmarrero1223]

If you look at a recent stats about who's having more sexual partners a year in Scandinavian countries, you will find it that women on average have twice the partners in sex men has a year at the age of 18-32. Even if older men have more sex than younger men, they still come off short compared to women. This is from few of the most liberal and feminist countries in the world, and topping in best educations in the world. Look, I understand that women have more than enough, sometime too much attention is draining. But too much expectation won't get you the man you want, especially when the focus is on the top men, who has way more options than the average men, and probably the same number of options as the average women.

[@ThousandMask]

I’ve toured a lot all over Europe , and you believe how many old men looking for emotional support sharing they deepest story after the show with me, I felt like a priest, and I’ve seen way to many dude artists friends ending their life... I don’t think we can claim any gender has it worst because it’s way to complex, even tho I do think men had it worst by my personal life experiences and from all studies done on that matter , and other reason that could affect those matters. I mean I do see the importance of using a strategy like hypergamy to select men , but I feel like a lot of them are not given a chances and feel like they have no reason to be or care for someone(including theme self) or just not loved for what they are. Nothing’s worst than someone trying to fit me in square hole the triangle that I am. Surely some men have personal work to do, but with no or very little hope and no encouragement, people die inside. Men are beast of burden , and some would happily sacrifice everything for they loved one . It’s very sad to see those suicide numbers growing and absolutely nothing is done. Peace everyone ✌️

[@Leggs013]

She always asked the Dumbest Question!

[@jacobjacob4139]

Whoever is Going Their Own Way found dating harder, go figure.

[@hetbet3879]

Women: freely chose especially with the sex ratio having more men than women.. So that means more men CAN not find love, but all women can if they need to find love. So: Women have the option to find love, MEN can not all find love. Some will have to be single.

[@mladen.kalinic]

Men. Didn't even had to watch the video to answer that.

[@mmastylez]

I think it depends on the position they are in, it's easiest being a top guy and it's hardest being a bottom guy and I'd say if you generalize on average women have it better, but top men have the best dating lives out of anyone.

[@zeg2651]

True. But still, the average man has it harder than the average women. There is the saying that the top 20% of man get the top 80% of women

[@pacoramon9468]

Being way more female prostitutes vs male ones is the only thing you need to know.

[@pm2669]

as a guy ik its harder to us because they have to admit it to the girls and guys need to look better

[@ghourmi]

Are there any women commenting here?

[@nextgenjah]

The trick is treating them like shit at first. Showing no interest is the key to gaining their interest. Thats how i ended up with 90% of the women i've ever had a thing with. They really love it when u show them that u really dc abt them

[@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw]

I feel like guys have it much harder because of various reasons. For example, girls these days will reject you based off your height alone, and if it’s not that, than it’s how much money you’re making a year, and if it’s not that, it’s based off your looks, than if we all satisfy those qualities we have to prove we aren not aggressors since most millennial women grew up during the “stranger danger” era and therefore, are more hesitant to talk to a guy in any given public space, whether it’s the bar, or the library or the park, because we are guilty before proven innocent, and once we prove our innocence, we have to prove that we are indeed “men” by buying them gifts or taking them out regularly and pay everything from their meals to Gas to tickets to events, etc and when we do all that, we are still not guaranteed a relationship, because I can go on multiple dates with this girl, but the moment I ask her if she wants something serious, we either get ghosted or rejected and the girl will come up with excuse like “oh I only saw you as a friend” or “sorry I’m talking to someone else” and that hurts us bad, because our hopes are crushed and we have to deal with it, and can’t even talk about it to strangers or other girls because if we do, we are called pussies or that we are playing victim or how some will claim we are upset because we didn’t get to have sex with that person even though we were being nice to them. Than we are told to “take a shower” or “go workout” like if we don’t do so already, and if we get angry over a rejection we are called incels or assholes but a girl who has bad experiences with guys can shout “I hate men!” Or tweet that “men are trash” without having to be shut up and are asked why they are upset when we men don’t get to be upset. I’m sorry, but if my kindness is being taken advantage of and the girl thinks it’s fine that I get to be used as an option, think again. I have every right to be mad. And the worst part, is we have to repeat the whole cycle so many times until we finally find someone or die a lonely man. All that men want from a woman when looking to settle down and be in actual relationship is for the women to be kind, honest, loyal, responsible and decent looking. (Not too obese or skinny and knows how to take care of herself and look appropriate) and not have multiple sex partners and thinks that having an onlyfans where everyone can see her nudes is empowering to her when it really isn’t. When was the last time a guy turned down a women for not being of a wealthy family or background or being short or not paying up on the first date?

[@darienreed212]

All true