Who in Smash has Smashed? (Corrections)

Some corrections to the who has smashed in smashed tier list. I been making this video throughout the month based on comments. Bad timing on the recent spike the video has received, as I didn't have time to add those corrections in.
The original video: • Who in Smash has Smashed?
The mind behind the original question:
powerbread: / @breadpower
things that still need to be researched or included:
-Ike and Priam stuff
-King K Rool's dialogue about his wife is actually just a joke and the wife is not canon
-Ryu in the manga
Background by reddit user XIleven
/ xileven
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[@melonah8499]

This video existing is undeniable proof that Smash fans will argue over literally anything

[@shapeshifterk]

I'd beg to say more Nintendo fans, but yes.

[@Gale_.]

Ikr

[@user-1mc0n4us.ed-_-]

Not only the smash fans, literally any community is capable of that depending on the people and arguments.

[@andrewprahst2529]

@@shapeshifterk Find me an animal crossing argument. I'll wait.

[@ahsleeyjoannawalimas4993]

@@andrewprahst2529 there was one really popular argument over a hairstyle but I don’t remember it too well

[@Riku70X]

Wdym no proof, my extensive headcannon SHOWS that Ridley and I have a loving relationship together

[@Riku70X]

The smash is unpleasent

[@banjo9158]

This is impossible, ridley is too big.

[@gtwist8065]

@@banjo9158 too big for or to smash

[@nathanaelcaballero217]

@@gtwist8065 "life finds a way"

[@DiagonalTanooki]

Scaly detected

[@atomnater9343]

Okay but like… I think Dededes crouch proves that he not only smashes, but he obliterates

[@itsturniptime3699]

People Want to Smash Dedede, but no one is worthy enough

[@FormulaFanboy]

@@itsturniptime3699 this is the second Dedede comment i've seen from you on this very video

[@Otamatone69]

That’s enough KZbin for one day

[@shroom3408]

dedede wakes up and chooses devastation

[@itsturniptime3699]

@@shroom3408 dededevastation?

[@timbomb374]

Bowser Jr says at the end of Mario Sunshine "I know, she's not really my mama"

[@ghostmangm3059]

Yes, and Peach's confused question also confirms that she is not his mother, as I doubt anyone would forget giving birth to a reptile with spines. However, Bowser's surprised look and hesitation to say anything after Junior's quote might insinuate that Bowser is keeping something a secret, most likely about the truth of Junior's conception. This means that Junior saying that Peach isn't his real mother neither confirms nor denies Bowser's *royal virginity* .

[@ghostmangm3059]

Another thing I will add is that Bowser is a reptile, so it is possible that he may reproduce asexually

[@rhettmitchell]

@@ghostmangm3059 can some reptiles actually do that,,

[@ghostmangm3059]

​@@rhettmitchell "Most reptiles reproduce sexually, although some are capable of asexual reproduction."

[@lonk2902]

@@ghostmangm3059 Asexual reproduction in reptiles is only possible for females, as it still requires laying eggs. Could be different in Mario, but at that point there is not much of an argument to begin with.

[@OrangeToadGamer]

We all respect your efforts to give us accurate information about these characters sexual histories

[@splatmaster1903]

Blade prostitution is shown to exist in a cutscene with zeke where he talks about pandoria's past, so pyra and mythra can smash

[@justjoking5252]

_The more you know...._

[@jsj0520]

i just replayed Xenoblade 2 this February, i dont remember this scene at all. but i just assumed blades and humans could do it since they used to get married.

[@andrewprahst2529]

Blade prostitution sounds hot

[@jsj0520]

@Zach Edwards ah ok

[@judgementalpie9215]

Also, that one scene when trying to get Tora the parts for Popi, just after Pyra offers to help get the money but before offering to sell her earing Gramps says "Nothing illegal I hope" also implies that it is a thing

[@plushytv5295]

Wdym no proof, my extensive headcanon SHOWS that King Dedede and I have a loving relationship together.

[@LARAUJO_0]

[Insert "Upgrade" key meme]

[@JayAreAitch]

You messed up by spelling headcanon correctly.

[@plushytv5295]

@@JayAreAitch shit

[@TheKorenji]

@@JayAreAitch thanks now I'm wheezing by thinking about an extended headcannon that will shoot you if you contradict what it said

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@TheKorenji lol

[@breadpower]

if you really want to go into the semantics, the mii fighters are not the same as the mii's from the wii system onwards. the mii fighters in smash are always denoted with the smash ball series logo, same as smash originals like final destination and battlefield. furthermore, stages like find mii and tomadachi life have icons relating to their own games and mii spirits have the mii icons. not that anything would've changed.

[@CrAzYGAMINGWOLF]

NERRRRRRRRD

[@crep50]

@@CrAzYGAMINGWOLF well the creator liked his comment and not yours, so…

[@CrAzYGAMINGWOLF]

@@crep50 Dude, it was a joke calm down. Why are you getting offended?

[@crep50]

Aight hear me out: I was also joking

[@peterduprey7286]

Mii Swordfighter banged Mii Gunner, prove me wrong.

[@ThePunisherSpider]

"This doesn't mean they are a virgin, there is just not proof to say they are not" Man, reminds me of highschool.

[@silentzx8474]

Xenoblade 3 Spoilers: 2:51 Oh boy, their going way beyond just a tier.

[@alexn5743]

Yeah they did! Same with Shulk as of the DLC!

[@rileyomadadhain2173]

hehehe

[@itsturniptime3699]

Dedede is still father of the year, biological or not

[@littlemacisunderrated412]

Father of all time*

[@TheKorenji]

that is not up for debate

[@stombstones]

yes

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Based

[@eeveedee756]

@@TheKorenji you mean dededebate ;)

[@littlemacisunderrated412]

To the people who say bowser jr’s mother is peach: Are you stupid? In Mario sunshine it says in the last cutscene(or one of the last) that she isn’t. Also! Miamoto is jr’s mother, said so himself.

[@littlemacisunderrated412]

@VenomThor2 idk man

[@yorukage9688]

They're wrong, i'm Bowser's wife

[@PikaJim]

Wait, also the Mario world thing,

[@jj_grabes]

Wait *WHAT?*

[@shadowsnake5133]

@VenomThor2 ye.

[@ferr.6109]

Fun fact: Some real life reptiles can reproduce without the need of a partner. Since Bowser Jr. is an identical clone of his dad, that may have been the case.

[@sunstriketacos]

So Bowser smashed himself?

[@Giraffedoctor]

Isnt that only for the female reptiles?

[@Abyzzol]

@@Giraffedoctor do you see a dick on bowser? Exactly

[@arcthesavior]

@@Giraffedoctor yoshi lays eggs while being a guy so that doesnt apply in the mario universe ig

[@trebien4400]

I mean the stork always exists. one of the DK's comes from a stork yet they still family and no mention of adoption.

[@LARAUJO_0]

Wdym proof, my extensive headcannon SHOWS that I have a loving relationship with nobody

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

with anon or y/n reader* Congrats you're now taken

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Literally me

[@kingn0ah377]

Asexuality be like:

[@curetapwater5604]

Sonic looks so proud of himself for jumping so far up the list.

[@whaleping]

Archie gave Sonic a lot of firsts.

[@SrBanarkey]

I can now rest easy, knowing BOTW Link has been placed in his rightful category.

[@no-kr7rk]

P2 should be with P1 link because there the same person but with different clothes

[@brandonv6905]

@@no-kr7rk ?

[@rhettmitchell]

@@no-kr7rk yeah that was weird lol. It’s just Link after getting all the shrines

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

Hard pill to swallow; BOTW Link didn't Smash any of the hot girls, especially Zelda.

[@luckywoo2120]

@@Aaaa-g6u8e naw did you see how he was looking at zelda uh form...

[@tirzahroseroot]

Another 2024 update: Bayonetta, Shulk, Pyra and Mythra all have children: Viola, Nikol, Glimmer and an unknown child respectively.

[@aubreyterry9453]

Tbh the aggressiveness of those comments were uncalled for. It’s literally about video games characters having sex.

[@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183]

Wait till it's anime characters

[@gjemeralds14]

That's what we call... Passion 😏

[@feferson492]

video game sex is srs business

[@st.zahren5683]

average nintendo fans

[@chrisrockett5897]

@@sonsonthegoddessofconfusio3183 Oh fuck...

[@issabino9903]

On Ganon: He actually only has 1 reincarnation in 1 timeline, and that's after he's defeated in Twilight Princess and is resurrected in 4 Swords Adventures. Other than that, the other Ganons are all the same person.

[@mooseyluke]

FINALLY. I see so much misinformation on this point, even in Smash itself. The Palutena's Guidance for Ganondorf is just flat out incorrect. So much for being an expert on "Ganon Canon" Viridi...

[@lama99654]

4 swords' canonicity is even debatable I believe.

[@issabino9903]

@@lama99654 it was in the timeline, it's canon

[@Paccyd33]

@@lama99654 no it’s canon

[@Chris-gx1ei]

And also for Ganon, eventhough some may argue that he lives in a Harem Society that doesnt mean that he feels sexually atracted to any of them. Tears of the Kingdom and Four Sword Adventures have shown us incarnations of him who find more stimulation in war and violence than in naked women

[@Robous]

I would probably add a few more categories for characters who can’t, characters who should not right now, characters who chooses to not, characters who could, and characters that are unknown even IF they can.

[@cattfishie]

I’m so confused with bayo being a virgin. In the first game in dialogue with Luca talking about Cereza, Bayonetta says she doesn’t like children, “but making them is a different story.” I guess it’s not technically proof since you can like the idea of smashing without actually doing it and her being a virgin would probably add to the deeper messages and character of Bayonetta. Whatever the case is, her and Jeanne are definitely “close roommates”

[@nytekirijo6172]

the devs/creators forgot about it or some shit then again like you're saying it could be deeper in that sense like Bayonetta trying to play the part ;)

[@giantWario]

​@@nytekirijo6172 I think what it's really about is culture dissonance. For the Japanese, no longer being a virgin specifically means vaginal penetration by a dong. So even if Bayonetta had sex with Jeanne and Madam Butterfly to gain her power, as far as the Japanese are concerned she would still be a virgin since she never smashed a man.

[@Chino65245]

They were roommates

[@doodoooodood696]

Pyra/Mythra indeed can. Xenoblade 2 mentions multiple times that blades are biologically compatible with humans. From A. The line that states blades can marry drivers, as well as B. The fact that blade sex trafficking is a real thing that exists in universe

[@coldfireball6384]

Thank goodness

[@pixelatedink955]

@@coldfireball6384 hold up

[@Abyzzol]

@@coldfireball6384 thank goodness?

[@neofiresonic]

@@pixelatedink955 this guy just wants to bang pyra/mythra thats all

[@pixelatedink955]

@@neofiresonici know. Cold fireball, i pronounce you an incel!

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

Bowser Jr definitely isn't adopted. This can be proven when we look at Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time and we see a younger Bowser who looks like Bowser Jr. He also has Bowser's colour scheme, whereas the other Koopalings do not.

[@rifasclub]

Baby Bowser, he appears a lot in the Yoshi games.

[@krislillies8825]

Can debunk this easily. Ever see 2 koopas look alike? Also I like how your example can still technically take place of bowser recieving a baby from the stork as PnT goes back in time to a point when toddler bowser can fully talk AKA post yoshi's island

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

@@krislillies8825 What about any variation of rg Koopa Troopas? We see red, green and blue ones. Multiple of each

[@NoKOzKamui]

Babys canonically come from Storks in the Mario universe

[@ninjdraw8305]

Isn't this already a definite thing since Miyamoto confirmed all the Koopalings were adopted except BJ.

[@anzol4523]

Wdym no proof, my extensive headcanon SHOWS that Mr. Game & Watch and I have a loving relationship together.

[@bepisthescienceman4202]

Wait I'm also in a loving relationship with Mr game and watch

[@guillaumechau6082]

@@bepisthescienceman4202 Looks like Mr Game & Watch has some explaining to do.

[@anzol4523]

@@bepisthescienceman4202 I KNEW! HE'S BEEN CHEATING ON ME!

[@vc7808]

The existance of a Mr. G&W implies the existance of a Mrs. G&W*

[@RustyNips]

That would be some major paper cuts

[@weirdguy1495]

I'll help you out with the Mii costumes here, including repeats but not including original outfits. Smashed: Altair (Desmond's ancestor), Chrom, Erdrick (part of a lineage of heroes), Heihachi (Kazuya's dad), Isaac (Matthew's dad), Judd (Lil Judd exists), Link (classic), Nia, Rex (both of them are seen with kids by the time of 3), Saki (is the sequel protag's dad), Sheik, Zelda Questionable Canon Smash: Dovahkiin (lovers are optional), Fox Speculative Smash: Champion Link, King K. Rool, Lloyd (could have a wife or just a life-long bro friendship in Dawn of the New World), Persona 3 Protag, Persona 4 Protag (both for the same reason as Joker), Travis (Jeane may or may not be his biological daughter), Veronica (a possible love interest for the Luminary) Partner Speculative Smash: Ryo (heavily implied to be King's lover) Has Not Smashed: Akira, Arcade Bunny, Arthur, Ashley, Barbara, the Black Knight, Bomberman, Builder Mario, Callie, Cappy, Captain Falcon, Chibi-Robo, Chocobo, Chain Chomp, Creeper, Cuphead, Daisy, Dante, Dixie Kong, Doom Guy, Dunban, Felyne, Flying Man, Geno, Gil, Goemon, the Hunter, the Inklings, Iori, Isabelle, Jacky, KK Slider, Knuckles, Labo Man, Lip, Luigi, Majora's Mask, Marie, Mario, Martial Artist, Marx, Megaman.EXE, Meta Knight, Morgana, Mr. Saturn, Nakoruru, Ninjara, Octoling, Peach, Pig, Proto Man, Rabbid, Ray Mk III, Ribbon Girl, Samus, Sans, Shantae, Shy Guy, Skull Kid, Slime, Spiny, Spring Man, Tails, Takamaru, Team Rocket, Teddie, Toad, Vault Boy, Vince, Viridi, Waluigi, Wario, Woolly Yoshi, X, Yiga Clan, Zero

[@Sanime1]

Thank you!

[@GreenBomber]

Move Tails an Knuckles up to Questionable Canon due to Archie Comics. Other than that great job!

[@MrJinglejanglejingle]

What do you mean Ray MK 3 and Rex haven't smashed? CLEARLY, they have smashed... Many buildings. Also, Gray Fox got smashed by MG Rex.

[@fridaykitty]

sans does "befriend" your mom in deltarune, not that that would change the list lol

[@ferr.6109]

You can breed Minecraft Pigs, does that count?

[@joeywittman9822]

Actually, we know for a fact that Greninja hasn't had sex, since it's Ash's Greninja. (assuming they didn't just base it off of battle bond Greninja)

[@Sleepy_Cabbage]

So must ask the question...HAS ASH SMASHED?

[@CabbageTheMan]

@@Sleepy_Cabbage No, he's 10

[@Alumaday]

@@CabbageTheMan pedophilia

[@CreamCakes420]

Nah may resonate he's like 21 now mate

[@bessieburnet9816]

No, it's just a Greninja

[@selfloathinggameing]

Wdym bowser has never smashed, Miyamoto has said that HE himself is Junior's mother

[@kennethfung3618]

You know what I’m thinking?

[@asdasf8817]

miyamoto is juniors mother?????

[@superdude899]

@@asdasf8817 Canonically....yes

[@AbsolXGuardian]

And Mario's father

[@kennethfung3618]

@@AbsolXGuardian that’s crazy

[@TGAM2005]

If you don't count minors then that should mean Joker goes in bottom tier. Everyone seems to forget that as of 2016 (when Persona 5 takes place) Japan's age of majority was 20. Joker is only 16-17. That makes him a minor.

[@Straven93]

While yes joker would still be a minor there is still possible evidence because of the nature of his game. Compared to say the pokemon trainers given that its obviously not going to be a theme in the context of a pokemon game.

[@TGAM2005]

@@Straven93 I'd still say it's highly unlikely, given that the rank 10 confidant romance scenes are like him just getting into a relationship

[@空条承太郎-i1f]

fam doesnt know the age of consent in japan lol

[@TGAM2005]

@@空条承太郎-i1f Age of consent in Japan largely depends on the prefecture. While the federal minimum is 13, most prefectures set it at 16-18. In Tokyo, for instance, the age of consent is in fact 18. Do note, however, that age of majority and age of consent are not the same thing, so Joker would still be a minor as he is under 20.

[@空条承太郎-i1f]

@@TGAM2005 ok well played

[@torru36]

Thank you for putting Cloud into scene speculative. I think that the creator's have stated that Cloud and Tifa really did do it too.

[@WingMaster562]

This reminds me that Cloud was smashed by a group of muscly men at HoneyBee Inn.

[@bluetyphoon__]

Finally. Accuracy

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

Steve smashed Creeper, y'know? This video never mentioned it so it's totally inaccurate ;^)

[@forceghostyoda5730]

Minecraft Zombie needs to be upgraded

[@marcusferro7588]

Im surprise that he didn't see it was a severe and continuous lapse in his judgement

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

Nope, Miyamoto literally claimed he HIMSELF is Bowser Jr's mom. That's right, Bowser *Smashed* Miyamoto!

[@gratedshtick]

That means that unless Miyamoto is a hermaphrodite, then BowJow is a butt baby

[@superdude899]

@@gratedshtick I hate this sentence

[@CrownofMischief]

Miyamoto must've worn the Super Crown. Miyamotette, anyone?

[@RedBlue554]

Me: just watched the old one This: 11 minutes ago

[@brightlight8852]

The Awakening DLC straight up confirms that Lucina and Chrom are Marth's descendants. Bowser Jr. was confirmed to be Bowser's only biological child. MRobin was never stated to be the Canon Robin by IS in any capacity they stated that he was more popular not that he was canon.

[@motherhorse6695]

I mean...Miyamoto DID confirm that he is Bowser Jr's mother, sooooooo.

[@kingandcountry1242]

Holy hell man, I’m loving the little Rance references throughout the video. (The My Glorious Days at the end fit quite well)

[@Gabriel-sp1ji]

Another correction: While the Hero from Dragon Quest IV does have descendants, the Hero from V is not one of them, only Bianca, Nera, Debora and their children are

[@dustincompton992]

Do they? I know they have an implied love interest in that one elf girl from their hometown, but there’s no evidence they ever had kids or even smashed. For that matter there’s not even any evidence that DQ 4-6 take place in the same world. The only things they have in common is a Zenithian Castle and Dragon. No other history, geography, or lore is shared. And as there is already at least one canonical being capable of traveling between worlds in the DQ setting (Godbird Empyrea, who serves as the catalyst in the Heroes games for the crossovers), there’s no reason to assume that the “Zenithian trilogy” all takes place on the same world. By contrast within the same series, the continent of Alefgard appears much the same in DQ 1-3, and the heroes of 1 and 2 are directly stated to be the descendants of the hero/ine of 3. So while Erdrick/3 has still definitely smashed, the case for Solo/Sofia/4 is much weaker. All we know about the hero’s wife’s family tree in 5 is that she has Zenithian ancestry, not who that ancestor is.

[@Gabriel-sp1ji]

@@dustincompton992 You're right about dq6 not having much connection with the other games, but dq5 has lots of connections to 4. They mention the existence of a previous Zenithian Hero several times, they mention he/she dying at Helmunaptra (which is also said to have been created by one of the Hero's companions, they never say who but it's probably the Mahabala sisters), there's a "Psarologist" at Coburg who studies the Secret of Evolution (we also learn that Grandmaster Nimzo took the Secret of Evolution by reading one of the books in Lofty Peak) and Nadiria is there as well. The geography is definitely a lot different, I guess they didn't want to keep reusing the same map. They could've at least maintained Nadiria's map the same but eh.

[@tyranak7246]

Wdym no proof, my extensive headcanon SHOWS that Mythra and I have a loving relationship together.

[@angeldude101]

Good luck sorting things out with Rex. And also Pyra.

[@useraccount333]

Just Mythra? Not her conjoined sister Pyra?

[@angeldude101]

@@useraccount333 Conjoined twins are a different thing. Pyra is her headmate (or alter depending on who you ask).

[@useraccount333]

@@angeldude101 I know, I was just making a joke about how Pyra and Mythra technically share the same body.

[@DriverNeku]

Trust me, my very expanded head canon shows that palu and I make a great team in bed.

[@vohloo9797]

In one of the f-zero games taking place in the future there's a character that claims to be Captain Falcon's son. While not confirmed the possibility is there.

[@yagofazcoisaseuacho8035]

Greninja turns into Ash-Greninja for his Final Smash, the only one who can do that so far is Ash's Greninja. Ash's Greninja is tecnically obtainable in (Ultra)Sun/Moon and it cant breed there as far as I know

[@reay7224]

no, any greninja with battle bond can do it. Ash doesn't appear in smash so how could it be his greninja.

[@yagofazcoisaseuacho8035]

@@reay7224 afaik the only officially available Greninja with Battle Bond at the moment is Ash's in the Sun/Moon Demo, maybe this will change in the Future but until that we can easily say Ash's Greninja is the Greninja in Smash

[@TonkarzOfSolSystem]

4:10 A note on Bayonetta is that in the first Bayonetta game she says "Do I look like I have any interest in children? Now making them, that's another story." This IMO strongly implies that she's had sex previously. Arguably there is no correct category for this status based on the criteria in this video as the "no canon proof" category is for characters that have "no reference for them having sex" which is not the case for Bayonetta. However, her status does not fit any other category - but there are categories for character's with a similarly ambiguous status. Regardless of whether she's in the correct category or not, I think this information should still be noted in the video. Under the previous video I noted that she's probably in the correct category based on the criteria in that video, however in this video the criteria has changed. Finally a note on Kamiya's comment regarding Bayonetta's status as a virgin. First, Kamiya is well known for trolling hard on Twitter and there a bunch of times he's made statements like these that are false. Second comments like these are external to the game and a therefore not part of "canon".

[@cody1418]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHbUlqyQobB0pKs

[@Stephillpotten]

To be fair with that quote, one could argue that she's simply being horny.

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

Imagine the lucky bastard claiming Bayonetta's virginity.

[@ienjoyapple]

Also there have been a few pictures of both Bayonetta and jeanne living together drawn up by platinum game creators. So you could argue she isn't in the smash category, but for the same reason you could argue that she's at least in the partner category because of Jeanne.

[@greenbean501]

I remember in the second game Rodin in the secret boss fight does have a move that takes you to 1 HP, and it's implied that they smashed

[@Mateo_Bc]

wdym no proof, my extensive headcannon SHOWS that Wario and I have a loving relationship together

[@WeegeeDX]

wahaha you want fun? Wario show you fun ;)

[@jespoketheepic]

I think you misunderstood the comments about Chrom. Sumia is considered his default wife because she is the top of the tiebreaker priority list. So if you don't advance any relationships, he marries Sumia unless you got her married or killed. The village maiden marriage only happens if every single potential partner is already married or dead.

[@andrewface2355]

If you don't advance any relationships, Chrom still marries village maiden. He needs to gain at least some support points to marry one of the other female characters (or 9 according to the wiki because it records the point values differently). In other words, as Sanime said, "If you're gonna correct me on Chrom's marital status, at least do it correctly."

[@tomatooverlord2764]

@@andrewface2355 That being said, the fact that Sumia is at the top of the tiebreaker list (as long as you have at least a few points for every possible bride, Sumia will come out on top in any ties she's involved in) combined with her status as Lucina's mother in the opening, combined with the fact that an early mission starts Chrom and Sumia paired together, meaning you'd likely have to be actively trying not to get any points with her, means she's likely the intended bride for Chrom. The only situation where Chrom marries the village maiden is the least likely of all the different possibilities.

[@manerscount123]

Sanime: *counts pokemon as specific individuals of that species* Also Sanime: *counts all sonic canon as a singular sonic character, despite obvious differences including (but not limited to) power level, design, personality, and even origin*

[@ilovethelegend]

So, the difference is that I can have two individual Greninja in the same place at the same time with no explanation needed. They're separate instances of a species, not different versions of a single character.

[@superdude899]

@@ilovethelegend Still not the same, though

[@SKB-and-PlasticFred]

Shigeru Miyamoto actually said Bowser Jr. is Bowser's only biological son, and the KOOPALINGS aren't his kids (implying that THEY are adopted). So, personally, I think it's safe to keep Bowser at the lop of the list.

[@gatex33d74]

"these pokemon dont represent all pokemon!" "there is one sonic once that had one baby in one comic so it counts!" ...

[@wingedbluj1674]

The difference is "Sonic" isn't a species.

[@traskforge]

@@wingedbluj1674 Yeah it's a restaurant chain

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

What about the total reset of archie canon? If I recall, Sonic didn't hookup with Sally.

[@foe3602]

A parallel version of the character is different from someone of the same species. You might place them differently but it's not inconsistent.

[@superdude899]

@@wingedbluj1674 Using that logic, I think we should apply "Super Hornio Bros." Mario. Two different Sonics

[@Dc-pm2hi]

The fact that you had to make a video about witch video game characters smashed because fans were mad really says a lot about the smash community. Respect the fact that you did it tho

[@Dc-pm2hi]

But i will say a super small correction, Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto cleared up a series of misnomers about the portly plumber's lore in an illuminating interview at GameInformer. Miyamoto explained that Bowser children, the Koopalings, are actually adopted. ... Bowser's only child is Bowser Jr., and we do not know who the mother is," he said.

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

@@Dc-pm2hi Miyamoto also jokingly appointed himself as Jr's mom years later.

[@humane3166]

Toads be smashing on the daily seeing how many be protecting peach

[@andresmiltongutierrezorteg2764]

Funny how just yesterday saw the previous yesterday, didn't expect the correction now

[@vandam6057]

I have a feeling pyra and mythra have both gotten it on with rex during one of their stays at the many inns they stay at during the story

[@manupm9161]

When I saw the title I was hopeful that the pokémon characters (except Mewtwo) were going to be higher in the list 😭 Edit: 3:24 actually that comment only works with squirtle and ivysaur, because we don't know who is the trainer of Pikachu, greninja, incineroar and Lucario and in some dialogues with Lance (Gen 2 champion) he implies that his charizard is the son of red's charizard who was given as a gift when it was a charmander

[@shadowofdimentio4618]

Lucario has no trainer. He doesn't enter with a pokeball like everyone else (except Mewtwo)

[@andrewprahst2529]

Ooh, that's a good point. This IS specifically Red's charizard after all. Pichu also physically cannot breed. Even if it does have some kind of sex organs, they don't function properly yet, so I don't know if I would consider that full fledged sex

[@yagofazcoisaseuacho8035]

I Don't remember any mention of Lance's Charizard being the son of Red's Charizard, can you give a source to that? Also we know that the Greninja in Smash Ultimate is Ash's, since he uses his Battle Bond form for his Final Smash, as far as I know Ash's Greninja can't breed in SM/USUM

[@domantion2123]

Ash is the trainer of the greninja in game. When greninja uses his smash in game he could be seen transforming into ash greninja

[@kingn0ah377]

The greninja is Definitely Ash's/Ashes (plural of ash?) Since he has the ash greninja transformation

[@G0ZILLER]

Technically mythra and pyra have smashed as in Xenoblade 3, we get like a picture of chadasaurus Rex next to pyra and mythra with babies in their arms so….

[@Hambs23]

Putting "My Glorious Days" at the end. Very sneaky. I wonder how many characters would move up to the top tier if a certain Green Hero would be included in Smash.

[@ABCDEFGH-ub7wg]

I gotta ask iam bit of an idiot who?

[@Hambs23]

@@ABCDEFGH-ub7wg I think if you search for the song I mentioned you will find the source. It's NSFW, but the OSTs are uploaded on YT.

[@Nexitec]

Wdym no proof, my extensive headcanon SHOWS that Enderman and I have a loving relationship together

[@DriverNeku]

Facts tho, my very *expanded* head canon shows that me and min min fucked before.

[@thybasementboi]

👀

[@PikminAnd]

Pyra/Mythra most likely can reproduce (though I highly doubt they can make more Blades, as that seems to be something only Titans can do) since they still have organs synonymous with childbearing, such as breasts. Although this could also just be a leftover from a period of time where Blades could reproduce with other species, and maybe they've lost that ability for one reason or another - similarly to how the appendix lost its function over time and is now just... there - but that's purely speculation. However, when it comes to whether they've had intercourse before, I feel as if they're still virgins. Mythra's first Driver, Addam, was already married by the time he awakened Mythra - while not concrete evidence, I highly doubt Addam cheated on his wife. And Rex, her Driver throughout the main game, was only 15 when she resonated with him. As far as we're aware, 15 in Alrest is below the age of consent. Anyway, that's 5 minutes of my life I'm never getting back...

[@sethmichel6138]

I feel like it's safe to assume that 3 years after the game events Pyra and Rex would smash, they both have massive crushes on each other so it's definitely a possibility

[@andrewprahst2529]

This is just the whole "why do Argonians have breasts" discussion all over again I don't know why we would assume Alrest has a legal age of consent at all if we don't have any proof.

[@PikminAnd]

@@andrewprahst2529 Idk, I always assumed there were age-restricting laws in Alrest due to Rex not being old enough to drink alcohol.

[@andrewprahst2529]

@@PikminAnd Ah fair enough, ive never actually played the game.

[@hi-i-am-atan]

@@andrewprahst2529 also when dealing with a lack of information about a fictional world's culture, it's generally most reliable to default to how the _creator's_ culture handles a certain issue. it's sorta like the principle where you don't need to be told a sword has a metal blade; of course a sword would be made out of metal, the writer and the reader already know that that's just how most swords _are,_ and so it doesn't really need to be mentioned unless the type of metal matters or if the story has gone out of its way to imply or say that swords aren't made out of metal in its world. similarly, a modern piece of media doesn't need to say that its characters have to be some age of adulthood we're used to before they can drink or give consent, because ... we're just used to that concept. so we'll naturally assume that adulthood is largely similar to how it is in our world, unless we're given a reason to believe otherwise 'course, some genres like historic and high fantasy buck this pretty hard, but that's because the works in those genres go out of their way to set a mood that the story is taking place in a far off time, with many major cultural difference from our modern world. it's the difference between using our modern perspective as a base to tack fantasy stuff onto vs. tearing out as much of that modern perspective as possible to _use_ the fantasy ( or historic ) stuff as the base; you'll generally know within the first few minutes whether or not the hero uses a sword because it's an accurate weapon for the time period or because, well, swords are _fuckin' rad, man_ ( the answer, of course, is always that swords of fuckin' rad, but sometimes it's also the other reason too i guess )

[@PikaJim]

The Pokémon are totally in the “can” catagory

[@wingedbluj1674]

Except Pichu and Mewtwo

[@misadventuresofthemooneast6821]

SHULK HAS A KID!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tomasserra5690]

I wonder if Palutena did smash or not, I know that there is no canonical proof that she did put she is a goddess in the greek mithology in her game, and i think we all greek gods for a certain reason

[@rowletthejowlet6241]

"And then along came Zeus"

[@ratchetexperience8379]

She Smashed Kratos. Moving on

[@jespoketheepic]

There is the fact that two of the major goddesses in Greek mythology are eternal virgins (Athena and Artemis). It is actually Artemis' whole thing that she and her followers are celibate hunters.

[@nyahnyahson523]

Palutena is also based on Athena though, so I very highly doubt she smashed.

[@Jdvalentine13]

@@jespoketheepic you forgot Hestia who is also a virgin goddess and was pretty important for a long time

[@trainershade1937]

30 Points deducted from the list. Reason: Use of the wrong "canon", cannons sink ships... canons also do that often, but a different type of ship (get bent shippers).

[@eggifer3892]

4:04 With Bayonetta 3 this is reconed because SPOILER: Viola is Bayonetta and Luca’s daughter

[@Equinox_L6]

As someone who has seen the future, we can indeed confirm that both Shulk and Aigis have smashed, as they all have children in XC3

[@misteral9045]

Does shulk have separate children with Pyra and Mythra or do the children just kinda have a dad and two moms?

[@greenhunter473]

​​@@misteral9045 Shulk has a son named Nikol with his love interest from Xenoblade 1. Pyra and Mythra both have children with Rex alongside Nia. Pyra's daughter is named Glimmer, while Nia's child is all but outright stated to be the main heroine of Xenoblade 3, Mio. As of now we do not know Mythra's child, we just know that they exist. So Shulk's child as 2 parents while Pyra and Mythra's children have 4 parents.

[@misteral9045]

@@greenhunter473 That doesn't answer my question.

[@greenhunter473]

@@misteral9045 I don't know how it doesn't? I literally explained Shulk, Pyra, and Mythra's child situations in Xenoblade canon.

[@misteral9045]

@@greenhunter473 It doesn't confirm genetics.

[@sepiasweetheart]

Wdym no proof, my extensive headcannon SHOWS that Piranha Plant and I have a loving relationship together

[@boredhuman6512]

Just the fact its a topic amuses me. Good job.

[@Mudkip971]

Also the Archie comics and sonic games are not canon to each other.

[@banjo9158]

Yes.

[@elizam7013]

He said that in the video

[@ElPikminMaster]

Hence the name of the tier.

[@Mudkip971]

@@ElPikminMaster Yes but that shouldn't count either way, that's like if I started introducing the Zelda manga or Hotel Mario into the discussion. It shouldn't be part of the conversation in the first place.

[@ToastNova]

The Archie canon has a different sonic that originated from the comics, not Sonic 1. For a character to be in smash they have to originate from a video game, therefore Smash Sonic came from Sonic 1 and not the Sonic Comics or TV shows (unless the Boom TV show is canon)

[@protagonist9629]

You better not think I didn't notice my glorious days playing at the end there o.o

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

I would still bump Peach, Mario, Daisy, and Luigi up a category. Just because of a certain fiasco in Odyssey, doesn't mean Mario and Peach never have been in bed together before. Mario obviously liked her enough that he wanted to marry her. As for Daisy and Luigi, said fiasco in Odyssey doesn't even affect these two. Nor does a really sloppy game theory that attempts to claim that that a pine tree and a completely different tree type are somehow the same exact tree or that Luigi would suddenly abandon Daisy. I would say Bower fits Partner Speculative Smash at the very least. The asexual reproduction thing is just a theory and it still doesn't dismiss the fact that Bowser Jr is his one blood related child (regardless of how many people attempt to claim that Bowser Jr and Bowser from the past are somehow the same person just because Baby Bowser was mistakenly given a scarf with Partners in Time). I feel Toon Link got bumped down too low. It has never been down right denied that an older version of him got together with Zelda. Considering that Spirit Tracks Link is not related to the one from Windwaker and Phantom Hourglass, it's not farfetched that the Zelda that exists in Spirit Tracks could be related to the Link from Windwaker and Phantom Hourglass. I would have Sonic slid down either into scene speculation smash or partner speculative mash. There is no doubt he had kids in 25 Years Later. However, that storyline has never occurred with the games. Then again, that doesn't mean that Segaverse Sonic isn't potentially interested in girls (because there are occasions where he seems to be interested; like when he hits on a Amy look-a-like in Black Knight). Not being interested in commitment for the time being does not mean he doesn't feel any sort of attraction. He very well might want to have kids by his 40s to pass his speed onto the next generation. Even ignoring that little tidbit, there is still the possibility that he has jumped into bed with female mobians before. There is also...the possibility of Sonic and Elise if you consider the amount of time between the final cutscene in Sonic's storyline and the first scene that features Sonic and Elise in final story. Though I would personally hope that is not actually the case. I can understand keeping Pichu and Mewtwo in the same category for obvious reasons. However, the others may nor may not have their own offspring somewhere (Edit: unless you count Ultimate's Greninja as somehow being Ash's just because of his final smash).

[@Matheus-bf1rb]

Sonic 06 timeline was erased at the end of the game, so they never meet each other.

[@asackboyplush6508]

Wait wasn't it greninja?

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

@@asackboyplush6508 Oh, yeah, you're right.

[@eeveeon4081]

Yeah, Ultimate’s Greninja is Ash’s Greninja, but then that brings up the question of if Ash’s Greninja ever will smash. As far as I remember, Ash never has his Pokémon create eggs, so it would be heavily implied that his Greninja would be the same. I didn’t finish the Pokémon Z anime, so sorry if there is evidence to prove otherwise.

[@Yougotcaged102]

0:04 Love how this guy says "god this list has so many problems" like this is some critical analysis of like the best games of the Decade

[@happyofficer25]

Just shows how some fans can be tilted by literally anything

[@Takomaster87]

Wdym no proof, my extensive headcannon shows that Pyra, Mythra and I have a loving relationship together.

[@annie_is_bored]

Ugh lucky 😩

[@bwoeYT]

LOL at My Glorious Days at the end. My man.

[@longbao6040]

Sanime has changed...

[@Sanime1]

for the worst... yes...

[@timesup4200]

@@Sanime1 for the worst indeed

[@RGC_animation]

That one picture from the Xenoblade 2 DLC showing Rex and his party members each holding a baby (which includes Pyra and Mythra):

[@weirdox5007]

Gotta subscribe after checking out your channel, it's got some great energy going on. Keep up the good work!

[@topsecret770]

I will subscribe because you did your research on Sonic and Sally.

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

Awwww I was hoping you would show my comment about Miyamoto. It would have been funny if you had put Bowser in the smash category and used Miyamoto’s statement as proof.

[@mds_main]

Well there may be a need for part three with some new infos about some of them that have came out since this video. Anyway, I think it would be good to have a specific tier for those characters that are literally incapable of doing it, like Rob or Mewtwo. Also, Greninja would fall in the same category as in his final smash he transforms into AshGreninja and in the games the Battle Bond Greninjas are incapable of breeding.

[@theannilators7479]

We actually do know that Bowser jr has a mother. The creator of Mario confirmed that he his Bowser Jr.’s mother

[@Chris-gx1ei]

Ganondorf probably does not even think of Sex at all, he is more addicted towards War than fricking someone

[@ChaosGetter1989]

After xenoblade chronicles 3's ending, I think Pyra and Mythra need to be updated.

[@bubble_ross]

still insane to me that Rex chose all three

[@leihau]

i didn't play xc, what happens?

[@Subject97]

@@leihau There is a photo in Xenoblade 3 that shows Rex (protagonist of XC2), Pyra, Mythra and Nia (catgirl from XC2) with children so yeah, all of them has smashed and Rex has 3 wives or something

[@Subject97]

+ In future redeemed it's revealed that Shulk should be a few tiers higher

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

King K'rool has a wife & 2 kids in Donkey Kong Barrel Blast.

[@rosiesthalo1313]

Though it doesn't change the tier list, it should be mentioned that the Pokémon (at least Pikachu) are not the exact same one. Pikachu Libre exists as one of Pikachu's costume's and she, unlike the rest, has a heart shaped tail. There are at least multiple Pikachu's fighting meaning that there is the possibility of there being multiples of the other too, though that last bit is just speculation. still a great vid, that fact was just bothering me.

[@greenbean501]

yeah and within the gen 6 games the contest pikachu can't evolve or breed, even if you remove her costume

[@blackmercury2796]

I quite literally watched the last one yesterday and in 5 hours of today, you uploaded an updated one

[@dustinvanish]

Falco and Katt? He's got a comic where apparently he's not too committed to relationships and the two broke up. Not sure if the comic is canon though, its been a while.

[@schawangus]

Wow, people really took that first one hard, huh? The only one I canonically thought of was DK but then realized that I was thinking of Cranky.

[@thewholehorse7140]

I always thought the Pokemon were meant to be from the anime. - Charizard, Ivysaur, Squitle, Pikachu and Greninja were supposed to be Ash's Pokemon as they line up with his Anime team. - Lucario and Mewtwo are supposed to be the one from the Pokemon movies, Pokemon: Lucario and the Mystery of Mew and Pokemon: The First Movie respectively. - Then Jigglypuff and the Raquaza boss from Brawl were supposed to be the one from The Song of Jigglypuff episode which became a recurring character and the from the Pokemon: Destiny Deoxys movie respectively.

[@Straven93]

Well ash never evovled hos bulbasaur so not likely

[@johnnyboi8820]

Nah squirtle, ivysaur, and charizard are Red's pokemon, greninja is obviously ash's, and pikachu's trainer could be anybody

[@WhoodaHell]

I'm a little late but here's one for future scholars to decide. There is an infamous movie with Ron Jeremy as Mario and Nintendo bought the rights to the video so they could bury it. Does this establish it as canon though? Perhaps. While not specifically created by them it is legally speaking their IP. And whichever other characters are in it would have to be moved as well, if so.

[@KalleBerendijk]

Am I stupid or was that Rance music in the last section? Would be quite fitting considering the video's topic.

[@Sanime1]

It was

[@KalleBerendijk]

@@Sanime1 nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@ClashBluelight]

if you make a mii, and have that mii smash in another game, then that specific mii fighter will have canonically smashed. this would place mii fighters into the questionable canon smash category, since it's entirely dependent on the player in question's prior actions.

[@legosaurg7979]

5:32 I think Zelda 2: Adventure of Link Zelda has a brother, but I think other than that game she is an only child. And considering the Zelda design Smash Zelda is based on is an only child, we can say she smashed.

[@lederpu]

TAoL Zelda does have a brother, but he might've died - not too sure if I'm remembering this correctly or not lol

[@dpolaristar4634]

At the end of Xenoblade 2 we see Pyra and Mythra have a photo with kids with Rexx.

[@YooranKujara]

Lucina, Chrom, Emmeryn and Lissa are Marth's decendants

[@wingedbluj1674]

And don't forget Lissa's son and Lucina's cousin, Owain.

[@yeetsunday6205]

2:51 I think a certain Pic at the end of Xc3 proves they move up 😅😂

[@Mudkip971]

Wait can't zombies make baby zombies in Minecraft?

[@Mateo_Bc]

they sort of spawn from nowhere, there isn't cannonical proof that zombie fucks, because you can't breed zombies in Minecraft

[@Mudkip971]

@@Mateo_Bc You've got a point.

[@zeppie_]

@@Mateo_Bc you can cure zombie villagers, and make them smash, but you can’t cure a normal zombie so I don’t know if that counts

[@Mateo_Bc]

@@zeppie_ I don't think so, because (for some reason) zombie villagers and zombies aren't the same thing

[@kingofnoobs9728]

Both zombies and baby zombies just spawn in the dark so zombie is a confirmed virgin

[@superdude899]

*Although Bowser Jr. is not a member of the Koopalings, they sometimes act as his personal minions. ... However, Shigeru Miyamoto eventually affirmed that Nintendo's "current story is that the Koopalings are not Bowser's children" in 2012, leaving the Koopalings as his underlings and Bowser Jr. as his only child.* Bowser smashed, bro.

[@sandjgaez257]

I will say that the “ZeLink” ship in Breath of the Wild seems to be implied with a fair deal of evidence.

[@davey_rulez7301]

yeah, but what do you honestly think the great fairies are doing to Link under the water?

[@mrdooblet4545]

Botw link smashing is pretty likely if not definitely because it is cannon that both Zelda is going to smash and loves link in botw. And there is also a lot of evidence that link loves zelda.

[@escribe154]

I feel like Snake has smashed, it's really shaky though, hideo puts a lot of sexual innuendos in the MGS games.

[@deewompost2470]

You have redeemed yourself, it seems as if I will not have to unleash my army upon you

[@Hondacivic-fk7ky]

Actually bowser jr isn’t adopted. Miyamoto said that the kooplings are but bowser jr is blood-related to bowser.

[@CinnaMK]

Isn't there a cutscene in a Bayonetta game where she says she doesn't like kids but enjoys making them? Idk maybe I'm misremembering that, but the way Kamiya phrased his belief could leave room. This is exactly where I'd expect to end up at 4 am XD

[@useraccount333]

Bayonetta EXUDES sex appeal. Unless her powers literally run on her virginity (which, to be fair, isn't it entirely unheard of), she's definitely smashed somebody.

[@paulo547]

@@useraccount333 Well, If the opposite is confirmed by the creator himself, what do you do about that?

[@yeboi2379]

Bruh Pyra and Mythra have kids.