Who makes the best scooters? Should you buy a used Piaggio?

[@nivelan]

I got a Medley and it does everything. Gone 2 up regularly, done Motorway to Leeds and A580 to Liverpool, B-road trip to Germany and back. Not in the fast lane but it's comfy year round. With the underseat storage, the bag hook and a top box I can do the weekly family shop. Decent suspension and large wheels so pot holed roads hills and light offroad been OK also. No issues in past 2 years and great support from Youles in MCR. Wouldn't choose the Liberty though. Air cooled so it'll run out of puff quicker, smaller too. Compare the Beverly 400 if you get a chance. The Medley can handle most of what you'd throw at it, but the Bev has enough power to do it well.

[@GillyBikes]

Thanks for that. Always good to hear. The Beverley is on my list. Hopefully one will be available soon for me to try.

[@nivelan]

@@GillyBikes You could try Youles, they're a good bunch and usually have one in stock.

[@GillyBikes]

I will give them a call and try and arrange. Thanks 👍

[@allans7281]

Hey mate great video I just purchased the liberty 150 here in the states good all around bike

[@GillyBikes]

Thanks. You guys are lucky over there. We don’t have 150’s over here. 125’s are the learner bikes. Everything is bigger and better in the US 👍

[@Bshifawi]

I have Piaggio medley 150cc since 2020, The dashboard base color changed and some strange spots appeared because of direct sunlight . Everything else is perfect till now

[@MrVinnyh]

Yes, the extra grand is worth it, the larger wheels are better for stability in the damp weather. I purchased a MP3 in June last year, 3 problems: 3 wheel 3 sets of bumps, my knees were high pain in the groin areas, & sets of tyres brakes to replace! The main reason for purchase was I live on a 40' narrow boat so I thought a scooter with under seat storage would be better! but I found the groin hip pain too much after 40 miles so the end replacement was a Moto Guzzi V7 yes no storage but far better in comfort and general use than any scooter outside a town!! I must admit back in the 70's I took part in mag test run of several scooters we did our best to get rid of them as soon a possible.

[@GillyBikes]

Now that’s a way to live. Boat on the water and the Guzzi for the roads. ❤️

[@maskedavenger2578]

If I was after a 125 scooter as my only transport, I would choose the more powerful Medley . If just to use as a local runabout to save dragging out a larger motorcycle out the garage ,it would be the Liberty . The only downsides could be getting hold of Piaggio. parts quickly , I have heard tales of owners waiting ages for piaggio parts & these models are not as popular as Piaggios Vespa in the U.K.

[@GillyBikes]

I would go for a Vespa if it was my money. I prefer the looks of those.

[@maskedavenger2578]

@@GillyBikes I was nearly tempted to buy a Vespa in 2021 , when looking at my then next bike . It was in absolute mint condition a few years old used ,with very low miles , pearl white ,neat rear rack & fly screen 300 GTS . It had been a bikers second bike ( guilty pleasure ) but his misses told him he had to flog it & keep only one bike . It would of probably been more practical for me at my age & health condition , but I like the larger wheels of a bike & a hand clutch & foot gears . Maybe a Vespa in a couple of years if still around & able to ride, I already have a big collection of N / Soul & Motown CDs to go with one . 👍

[@GillyBikes]

@maskedavenger2578 I will definitely get one. One day. Hopefully 🤞

[@maxmustermann9304]

Hallo, ich habe ein Probleme mit meiner MEDLEY. Aller 3 Wochen ist meine Batterie leer, habe auch schon eine neue drin. Wenn ich den Roller nach 12h Ruhestand starte, zeigt die Volt Anzeige im stand bei laufenden Motor 14,4V an, sobald ich fahre fällt die Spannung auf 12,6V nach ca. 10 Kilometer steigt der ladestrom laut Anzeige auch beim fahren auf 14,8V. So wird der Akku ja theoretisch immer erst ab 10 Kilometer richtig geladen!? Ist das bei Dir auch so? Danke im voraus

[@keinkein510]

Zum Händler bringen und das nächste mal eine Honda SH kaufen

[@jkidst]

Its probably your variator

[@davep8361]

What was that bike next to the van at the start of this vid please?

[@GillyBikes]

That’s a Keeway V-cruise 125 👍

[@mariannesuesli5680]

As an elderly lady I have tried the Medley and found its seat too high and the weight too much, so I have opted for the Liberty once again. I use it to drive to town, and like it a lot.

[@GillyBikes]

You have to be comfortable. I would have done the same in your shoes. 👍

[@richardhewitt.easyvanlife.6957]

I used to be a motorcycle mechanic, working for a Honda dealer. When the Honda Sh 125 came out after selling loads and working on them, I put my own money into buying one for 3 mile commute to work and back including dinner time. I could retire my Honda 90. The Sh125 was a fantastic bike..

[@GillyBikes]

That’s all you need for a short commute. Much more convenient than a car.

[@KrisVic91]

Can you fit a full face under the seat?

[@GillyBikes]

@KrisVic91 only under the expensive one. That fits 2 full face helmets in. But the other one doesn’t fit any.

[@richardhewitt.easyvanlife.6957]

@@KrisVic91 I’ve never owned a full face helmet. So not sure.

[@KrisVic91]

@@richardhewitt.easyvanlife.6957 What do you use a pop up? If you use an open face that's just silly.

[@katkylekim]

Funnily i went through all these about a month ago shopping around for a city scooter with better power then most having only 10 Hp in a 125cc scoot being 110 kg 6'1" my self , i was looking for the most Hp and a step thru frame flat floor like the SH 125i or 350i from Honda these ranging from €4,300 or €5,300 . Both models i saw were still from late 2022. Then i went to look at Kymco with the Agility 160 cc or the CT 300 but then again they were still from 2022 and the later was around €5K on the road and weight nearly 200Kg offering only 22hp. After having a good think i was going to opt for a used Vespa 300 but the ones i found were all well used over ten years old and wanting around €4K and needed another €500+ invested in them to be good to go , at this point i couldn`t get it that i was going to spend as much on a decade old scooter that needed certain amount of maintenance so i went to the dealer thinking id be able to buy a Vespa 300 for a bit more then that ! I was quoted €6.800 for the entry model HPE 300 !! At this point i was devastated as i never wanted to spend more then €5K ,so after doing some research i found out about this Medley and its IGET engine producing 14Hp as the dealer didn`t have any in stock and i didn`t want the Liberty because of its one rear shock absorber and lack of space under the seat even though i could have lived with that so i went again to the dealer and he couldn`t even give me a price on them so i waited for a couple of weeks until they got shipped in and i got one on the road for €4,000 ! Ive been riding it daily and is very good on fuel , dash gives you all the info you need and even shows correct engine temperature not just a warning light of the liquid cooled engine which dearer scooters do not and the best thing about it is the under seat storage and its started with a key and none of that keyless nonsense !

[@GillyBikes]

They are impressive. Decent performance, amazing storage and very comfortable. You definitely made a good choice.

[@katkylekim]

@@GillyBikes Thanks ,my only concern is the engine doesn`t have to be run in and at 300Km it seems to have already consumed 100ml of oil .I spoke to the dealer and he said not to worry and topped it off as the first service is due too 1000 Km .

[@GillyBikes]

I’ve heard very good things about the engines lasting for lots and lots of miles. Some just need topping up with oil every now and then. I have a Yamaha at the moment that needs topping up every few months.

[@katkylekim]

@@GillyBikes Im glad about that ,is the Yamaha new ? I had older bikes and used to top up nearly after 900km and they were 125 cc air cooled .

[@jasonstatham6170]

I'm getting my 2022 medley next week

[@GillyBikes]

Good choice. 👍

[@zediramadani]

you are so interesting that I fell asleep after 2 minutes.. full face helmet in Liberty 😂😂😂

[@GillyBikes]

I read “you” and then I fell asleep. 🖕😂 thanks for the view

[@cheaperukbills774]

I am the new owner of the Piaggio Medley as featured ;)

[@GillyBikes]

Congrats on the new bike. 👍🥳🥳

[@cheaperukbills774]

@@GillyBikes picking it up soon

[@cheaperukbills774]

@@GillyBikesBTW: Congratulations on your PTC on the Piaggio’s - I owned and operated my own Award Winning video / multimedia production for 30 years - nice delivery 👍

[@GillyBikes]

Thanks. I’m still learning. Any tips you can give me would be much appreciated 😁

[@cheaperukbills774]

@@GillyBikes A few of my previous clients kzbin.info/www/bejne/jF7cc4Wpbq-tepIsi=gF8igM3I0wn1x46u

[@mitchellnix5274]

As a town bike it probably doesn't matter. The more powerful Medley would be better for long rides. Add a top box and you could easily tour on it.

[@GillyBikes]

If you have the motivation for it you can tour on anything. These are certainly comfortable enough for long rides. Wouldn’t be my first choice, but I’ve seen people touring on much worse.

[@KrisVic91]

Mate is there any of these scooters you know of have enough storage space for a full face helmet?

[@GillyBikes]

One of these has enough room for 2 full face helmets. I’ve tried the new Voge scooter yesterday. That does as well.

[@JDMz]

The medley has a fairly big underseat storage. It's 36 litres. And holds 2 full face helmets. Plus you can add a top box for more space. Or you can opt for a maxi scooter. Like the yamaha xmax, honda forza, sym cruisym. Kawasaki j125. Kymco x town. Kymco dtx360 125.

[@gillykids8446]

They both look like loads of fun

[@GillyBikes]

These were fun. The bigger wheels helps.

[@davidg.5076]

Your helmet will probably fit in the top box of the Liberty. That being said, for 1000 you're getting quite a bit more bike with Medley, just if in the liquid cooled engine, expanded comfort and better cruise range. Plus it's newer so it's not exactly apples for apples in that regard.

[@GillyBikes]

They are similar but very different. I suppose it depends on budget as well.

[@iandaniels8386]

it was a toss up of a new 24 plate honda sh125 mode water cooled or new 24 plate honda vision air cooled bike ended up with air cooled honda vision 110 cc not that much slower bit lighter than mode and can take full size hemit plus both had same size weels 16 front 14 back

[@Crossers76]

Or a new Sym jet 14?

[@GillyBikes]

The sym is a great shout. I think they make some of the best 125’s out there.

[@EartAlienEB1]

​@@GillyBikes sym jet 14 evo tried it and its really nice . Build quality is china but its cheaper

[@umik8512]

I had the medley, loved it, 4 stroke bikes last longer so I wouldn't buy the air called one. Fitted my full face crash helmet. Used it for work. Only one thing I didn't like was the small seat.you forgot that the medley has usb connection

[@DarcyChu-fi6lf]

You don't need the USB socket, just bring a power bank along.

[@GillyBikes]

@DarcyChu-fi6lf I always take a power bank or 2. They seem to charge much faster than the Bikes USB’s.

[@DarcyChu-fi6lf]

@@GillyBikes Definitely! The output of USB socket on the scooter is 1 amp only usually!

[@EartAlienEB1]

I have just bought the 2022 Medley S and has all the bells and whistles . Abs Tcs Led lights , good screen with lots of information . Disk brakes front and rear , wider tires and Michelin city grip ones ,more storage and allso USB port . Lets not forget the seat on the Liberty is harder and not as comfy as Medley . Allso Medley looks a little sharper . The S ive got is matte black . It allso has the max 15 hp and water cooled . Nice video !

[@clangerbasher]

Yes. I think the only reason Honda tops the charts with their PCX is lack of brand recognition and a lack of dealers. The names are awful too. I think I have said that more than once here. EDIT: For those that don't know these are Aprilla's and Vespa's in a different body. EDIT 2: And there are S versions. EDIT 3: I don't shout about under seat storage. I just type really heavily.

[@BikingChap]

Word goes around as to what's tough and dependable and hold their price, that's why Honda's PCX and Yamaha's NMAX top the sales charts and that in turn is driven mainly by delivery riders who'll soon sniff off a bargain scooter if it's reliable and cheap to run... hence the Honda and Yamahas popularity,

[@DarcyChu-fi6lf]

Those scooters of various brands under Piaggio group have worse electrical glitches unexpectedly, which get riders stranded somewhere.

[@Mack-bc3sp]

Ive got a vespa gts125ie which has the same engine as the medley and i have done 23,000 trouble free miles the water cooled engine is excellent

[@GillyBikes]

I’m a big van of the Vespa’s. They definitely win on looks / style

[@EartAlienEB1]

Those tiny wheels tho

[@keinkein510]

Honda is the best

[@umik8512]

Don't need a power bank if you have a USB 😊

[@GillyBikes]

Usb’s are brilliant for long journeys but a decent power bank will change much faster.

[@IanHigginson]

Kymco 550 or 400i is very much ok

[@GillyBikes]

There are loads out there. I actually have a sweet spot for the 300 Vespa GTS.

[@federalnoise]

Yamaha jog, early version

[@GillyBikes]

They look pretty cool. Did you have one?

[@federalnoise]

@@GillyBikes Yes, the old style jog is a more robust bike build using early Japanese Yamaha 50cc engine. Bike is near bullet proof compared to modern style mopeds. As long as your weight is around 16 stone this bike copes very well with any road, even uphill. Morons wheelie them because of the very forgiving CVT layout but I don't recommend that.

[@GillyBikes]

@federalnoise it goes with the old saying “they don’t build them like they used to”. Bikes used to be made to last forever. I’m not sure that’s the case anymore.

[@johna6968]

Honda.. Period

[@GillyBikes]

Other brands are available 👍 😂

[@BikingChap]

@@GillyBikes as are other levels of reliability. :)

[@JDMz]

​@@BikingChap piaggio are reliable. My daughter has a medley S 125 with over 80k miles. She recently had a honda pcx. That had 67k miles before the crank bearings went. The medley is still on original crank bearings and water pump. Not to mention. The medley has better oil maintenance than a pcx. The medley oil change is 6200miles. Pcx is 4000.

[@BikingChap]

@@JDMz wow, impressive mileages on both!

[@fatange]

I love a scooter me. Every time I go to Benidorm I have to rent one. Me and fat @taffy2wheels on the same bike is loads of fun 😂

[@GillyBikes]

I could see you 2 on the strip. Searching for sticky Vicky on your scooter. 😂

[@KrisVic91]

​@@GillyBikesCrazy how Sticky Vicky is known worldwide ha.

[@GillyBikes]

Amazing isn’t it. Famous full pulling things out of her lady parts 😂

[@brashachilles9725]

I have one of the old Beverly 125ie scooters. 43000kms. 11 years old. Love it. Just a bit bigger and heavier than the Medley. They were replaced with the Medley model. There was a 300cc variant back in the day so it’s pretty robust. New scooters have much less fuel consumption though…. Dependability is OK. I’ve spent about €700 on repairs excluding oil, filters, drive chain etc… I’ll probably replace it with a Honda soon. Sips gas and a bit more dependable.