Who's the Boss? AR4000D 4k MAX Amp Dyno Test

#Boss #4000watts #AmpDyno
The Boss AR4000D is advertised to deliver "4000 Watts MAX" at a cost of around 100 US dollars. Most people who know car audio and ratings know this is a bloated rating. Many people want to know what is the true, RMS power rating of this amplifier? Well, let's take a look at the amp, hook it up to a subwoofer and try it out on the Amp Dyno.
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[@wal]

Purchase this amp and support our channel: Amazon - amzn.to/2s7jiGE eBay - goo.gl/iLv1Wk

[@edrickmendez7978]

BigDWiz actually my 1st system in the 90s was the Boss Audio Chaos Series that has the Clear Plexiglass on it and was a killer amp back then..but later in 2008 I return in car audio I bought the Boss Audio Phantom Series and was a ok system for me..2-12's Phantom subs in a Prefabricated box in a Boss PH-3000.1D and for the mids an highs a PH-2000.4! know I'm going all the way with Rockford P1000x5

[@spoogethat]

next would be nice to see a planet audio, or pyle amp lol

[@brewcitymike1]

yeah one of the "big" planet audios like the BB4000.1

[@npgilbertson]

mike kotecki_brew city bass . my friend had one of them "high power" planet audio's. I have it now, sitting in an almost melted pile. It's just to look and laugh at now

[@eduardobatista329]

Hey hi big d, im doing a system the front consist of cdt hd as, I was shocked how good it sounds also bought the cdt e0 o2, midrange /tweeter, the hd62 as comes with the main tweeter and image tweeter which you place on top corner of windshield, rear doors are going with vibe sa60 audiophile, they don't make them any more, and for trunk area another with the morel mdt12 tweeter, it's a 2012 subaru forester, sorry for this book lol, the question is how good are those subwoofers you have can they be used as a audiophile subwoofer,is the qts below .40

[@crazy8sdrums]

Generally speaking, putting car audio stickers on your car is just like saying 'Rob this car!'...but putting that Boss sticker on your car would have the opposite effect.

[@floridalottery3134]

LOL

[@vasquez3769]

Hahah!! I agree!!!

[@Dogiknows]

Lmfaoooo

[@danielbeavers8701]

LMAO!!!!!!😂🤣

[@MrDubfan]

LOL

[@mrchubbyfella9421]

If Boss just said hey 900 watt amp for $100 that'd be a steal and nobody would bitch but the lying has got to stop

[@Force1Com]

lol

[@Skarfar90]

Hell, if they named this amp "AR-1000D" it would still be legit (won't deliver a 1000w of clean power, but will still do more than 1000w uncertified or dynamic), and if they actually put rated RMS power in the manuals for all the ohm loads.. well, let's say 400w in 4 ohms, 700w in 2 ohms, and 1000w in 1 ohm, that would have been an amazing deal for 100 bucks.

[@MoparStephen]

Max power must be when lightning strikes.

[@livingwaters7841]

too funny

[@jeremys8360]

48v maybe

[@chim7741]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tedtan6449]

lol

[@kennethblackburn8756]

At 1.21 Jigawatts even

[@prestoncooper9560]

we would have killed for a 1k amp for 100 bucks 20 plus years ago lol too bad they dont advertised the REAL numbers, probably would sell better.

[@wal]

+Preston Cooper I think Boss is selling as many of these as they can make. Dey be makin' bank like a "Boss" 😜

[@brewcitymike1]

true dat, lol and BigD that picture in picture head shake about rocking the decal made a little pepsi come out my nose, lol Even cats running Boss don't sport the decals

[@joeve5316]

How do you really wire up 4 - 10" duel voice coil subs to a 1 ohm amp all planet audio equipment

[@4gbmeans4gb61]

THESE DO NOT LAST WORTH A SHIT>..... And if you do anything past 4 OHM on it, well IT WONT LAST A WEEK>.

[@waitemc]

No joke. 1994 I would have given my left nut. Nowadays I dont even hear anyone bumping like the ol'days around my town.

[@FiveStarCarStereoInc]

We do a smaller version of this amp in our 5 o'clock special subwoofer combo package. Reliability wise, we never get them back. It would be nice if they did not over rate them like they do. For the price and performance, people might take it more serious. They are not bad little amps.

[@wal]

+Five Star Car Stereo great info, thanks Dean 👍

[@JasonStaggs99]

You gotta admit 1100-1400 watts for a $80-$100 amp isn't really that bad

[@4gbmeans4gb61]

It is when it lasts a week and you have to buy a new one.

[@2869may]

Cheap DIRTY power.

[@juliansommer1029]

With a 56% effiency it really is a waste of money

[@1royathrone1]

true but ull prob fry it 3 months down the line and thats if your vehicle doesnt catch fire first lol My aunts husband was running one in his escalade and that thing caught fire the good thing is his kid wasnt in the his truck because usually shes in the rear seats but that day he was rolling alone and that thing caught fire like a mutha.

[@jasonborn9394]

I had a powerbass amp fry after 6months. And it was professionally installed.

[@Ebacherville]

You should have like a leader board for most watts per buck.. like Top Gear does for their track times for each car.. doesn't say anything about quality of build bit maybe a "long term torture test" could be developed.. like put it on a 4 ohm dummy load for a month see how long it survives?

[@wal]

+Ebacherville I would need to use a "Big Dummy" load 😂

[@sniperpronerfmods9811]

love top gear, are you cought up oit with the GT series?

[@alvin1364able]

I've blown my JL RD 1000/1 I had this Boss amp sitting in my garage....I hooked it up 2 years ago to my single Alpine type X 12".....and it's still kicking ass!!! Lol.

[@ChannelZeroOne]

They would get more respect if they sold it as a 900 watt amp. 20% of rated power is pretty low, but yea good for under $100.

[@JosephArata]

20%? Max power is a made up number by marketing wanketeers. It has no meaning. This amp is a 900W RMS amp.

[@Dubose_Adventures]

I'd really like to see you strap 2 of these together and test it out

[@OzZy-13820]

I'm in the same boat. If I dont get to it first. One pushed four twelves for me hard, now I'm down to two subs but one on each would be dope.

[@GearItFirst]

This video sold a shitload of boss amps, that's for sure.

[@joshuadeacon2283]

Lmao

[@danielphillips5229]

the last couple videos ive seen its like hey this things sucks but its a GREAT DEAL. no thanks. lets see something that is GREAT at an accessible price.

[@rxtuninginc8444]

Probably did. The Armor 1600D version used to be under $60 Canadian on Amazon and went to well over $100 over the course of a few weeks. Guess it was selling well so they just kept creeping up the price.

[@dmayse1000]

that's whats always pissed me off about boss amps... they always make up some number that would never happen even if u put enough power to this amp to catch it on fire... if it were branded as a 1200 watt amp I would buy it and even give boss a good review but they always try to pull some shit and it makes the people who just start out in the audio game look stupid when they tell an audio veteran about their 4000 watt amp for under a hundred dollars... knowing that they are willing to lie about their amp specs so blatantly its also affected my opinions about all of their products like single and double din stereos and speakers but I remember a time when the dollar per watt was so much higher that we would've chopped a toe off to pay less than a hundred dollars for 1400 watts at 1 ohm

[@wal]

+The hair on your screen I let Boss off easy, should have done a rant like I did on the Belva amp. I agree the MAX numbers are ridiculous and only confuses the consumer. Hopefully this video helps get the truth out

[@bdc211]

The hair on your screen dude i litterally tried to blow and swipe the fuckin hair off my screen..... Nice....

[@DanielRichards644]

yeah, pretty obvious bullshit (even if the brand name was obscured and you only saw the specs and fuses, simple math tells you it couldn't possibly even reach HALF the claimed power.

[@MacNifty]

If anyone remembers Pyramid speakers and amps they were the worst. It sucked that Boss would be put in the same class as them too. I always felt bad for Boss on that tip.

[@MacNifty]

I think for anyone new to the game would know to look at specs and learn what to look for. Anyone even when I bought my Boss amp at age 16 I knew better to tell nobody especially the JL audio and Rockford or PPI heads. NOPE. I just pulled up and banged just as good our louder than they had. My ugly ass car has hoes hopping in no problem. lol.

[@scumbag7158]

I'm currently running the first model of the Boss Phantom series A/B 2ch.1500-"3000 watts" max bridged. Paired with the "2300" watt Phantom 12's and they bang pretty hard for over 4yrs of daily bumpin.

[@Gnik4144]

I had a 1500 watt boss amp when I was like 17. It was more like 150 watts... lol

[@wal]

+Gnik4144 this one beats the 10 percent rule, lol

[@dcarden3031]

Gnik4144 no impossible when you plug the numbers in

[@famousmidnight]

I have a newer 1500 watt BOSS. It pushes my 12'' Boston G3 no problem for $60 I consider it worth it. If I had to guess it's probably 375-400 rms at 2ohms

[@MacNifty]

Even though no amp I've ever seen had a super weak 20% efficiency you are claiming your Boss amp was less than 20% efficiency? I hardly doubt that.

[@meldinssti3311]

Tyler Padgett I also have a newer 1500 watt boss amp I would say it’s much closer to 200 Watts it struggles to push my 12” kicker cvx I’m upgrading to the 3000 watt boss amp and am hoping it will be in the 500-700 watt rms range

[@210Designs]

Nice vid man! If the manufactures would just state true numbers, they wouldn't see such bad reviews. Over 1k @ 1ohm for $100, hard to argue with that. Even if the parts are not above average grade. Should be an (AR1500.1)

[@wal]

Amen brother. Big claims and low prices sell amps though

[@aviles1117]

BigDWiz Try the Massive Audio E4

[@ilovetoyotatrucks]

Jorge Aviles I wish he could

[@roman540]

Bj Hammon everybody who's paid any attention to the car audio scene knows what's up with boss at this point, least they should anyway. i personally don't mind cheap equipment- it serves a purpose. Even with that tho I'd probably recommend this amp after watching his test, those are some good numbers for $80-90 bucks. specially considering how expensive car audio can get.

[@210Designs]

Rico K -100% on that one mane 👌🏾 To each his own I say. Sometimes people wanna spend top shelf and sometimes they don't. There's plenty of options out there. People are just caught up in the "youtube hype", thinking they need the biggest, baddest car audio to beat. Farthest from the truth. I've built, seen and heard systems from both ends of the spectrum. It's a preference in the end. I love them all, but like seeing budget systems over high-end any day. If you hook it up right and put it in descent inclosure, it's gonna bang.

[@JA-gy9ln]

Be careful the plastic bag is probably worth more than the amp.

[@livingwaters7841]

OR it probably has more dynamic static than the amp

[@livingwaters7841]

It probably has enough static to increase the power rating

[@jonrockgoodpeopledosomethi6638]

1400 watts for a C-note is a Steal!🕵🏿 👮🏻🏃🤑🚔🚨 But I would buy a CAB amp instead😜...if I was a budget hound.

[@GhilleGhille]

Get the Pioneer 8601 for about $110 free shipping. 800w RMS

[@4gbmeans4gb61]

Its not a steal when you have to replace ur amp 10 times

[@electronoob7428]

Nobody: Boss audio: 10kw monoblock amplifier only 100 dollar very good deal 💯 % real

[@rc121crx]

100 for that 🤔 not bad at all ! I'm honestly impressed.

[@bobdodge3171]

For $90 it's not a bad buy, polish the silk screen numbers off pull the badge it's a really good looking amp.

[@wal]

+Bob Snow I agree it is MUCH nicer looking than most amps out there. Back in the day, the amp's heatsink design was a priority. These days it seems to be an afterthought.

[@hookhousebeatz]

Bob Snow exactly...hate the big chrome badge...

[@bobdodge3171]

BigDWiz to I loved the 1st gen Mtx Thunder amps, but someone liked my 2300 more then me 😢 still have the 2160' 240, & 4160. Be using them on my next install would like another 2160 and 2300. P.s. Love what you do for us car audio crowd. Enjoy the dyno tests. You also give us your take on the sound quality.

[@MacNifty]

That's exactly what a real audio custom installer home or shop would do too. Or do like I did when I was 16 and I had some white coned realistic speakers and went to the stereo store and stole the BOSE tags off the speaker grills and pinned them to my grills on those poopy realistics. lol. People were stupid fooled just believing what they saw and bragged all over the school... Nifty got those Bose 12's yo!!!!! lololol. If you are truly unique you would use no brand name and make your own brand name and put it on everything you own like red hot sauce. My name back then for installation and comp was Vigorous Sounds. I ripped all tags off every speaker dust cap and magnet as well as the amps and repainted and relabeled into my color scheme and name. This isn't a Boss ride or a Rockford ride it's fkn Vigorous Sounds mufuckaaaaaaa!! lol.

[@corynickoleff767]

If they called it a 1k certified amp I'd buy it

[@MeatPopsycle]

Can't believe this thing put out more than 10% it's rating. I'm fairly impressed.

[@blakemusser2615]

I have a Boss 1600 watt 2 channel(bridged) pushing a 1500 watt 15" sub strongly. I've had it for 4 years and it's still going strong and has never over heated. I've read alot of reviews bc people say Boss amps suck. In general people seem overall happier with the 2 channel vs mono-blocks. Mine seems alot closer to the actual numbers specified. Would love to see a dyno of a 2 channel to compare with the mono-block.

[@codygay3412]

Hey Big D! Thank you for making such high quality content! I'm super happy I found your channel!! Your doing an incredible job brother!

[@wal]

Happy to have you here brother 🤙

[@nukedathlonman]

Whoa - the box says 4000W PEAK POWER instead of max - are these manufacturers attempting to change marketing tactics (slightly)??? My guess was 850-900W dynamic into 1 ohm, 700-800W RMS non-cert into 1 ohm. So it did so better then my guesstimate, making me quite pleased to see the results. In terms of assembly, it does look like some of these Chinese makes are attempting to step up the game a bit (though I'd like to see a wider sampling before I commit to that). But it's still a lousy move to market a 1400W Dynamic power amp as a 4000W amp (be it peak, max, etc.). I'd be ecstatic to pay $85 for this amp if it had 900W label. Heck, I'd be just as happy if it had a 1400W Dynamic label. Not to mention, I'd be significantly less apprehensive. That's what I wish many of these manufacturers would learn...

[@randyhunt7585]

Reggie Reginato peak is max

[@nukedathlonman]

Randy Hunt Really?! Oh jezzz. I'm being facicous if your not getting my point - I am aware that peak and max are interchangeable. My comment was it was a different TACTIC (strategy) then the usual MAX label used by marketing companies.

[@kelinyates8722]

To be fair though - For people that even somewhat know what they're doing (IE: Watching BidDWiz's amp reviews) they will likely stay away from these sorts of brands (Pyle, Planet Audio, Boss, etc..) in the first place. The company most likely gets more sales due to individuals who do no research and are just looking at big numbers for a low price (there's a LOT of those people compared to those who do their homework). I get your point though, if they were more honest I'd definitely be more willing to purchase their gear.

[@kelinyates8722]

I just realized this comment is a year old....my bad.

[@LerRhann]

I have always seen it as peak. Max apparently has been used as well and I know max and peak are the same. I really wanted this particular amp to be a gem but long term use caused it to shit. Still don't know what happened to it but it got hot and went into protect then never worked again.

[@MRnounoursSQ]

man 900 watts rms suprising !!!! but not bad for the price i have a boss AR2500M and it's sound not bad at all

[@Skarfar90]

For $100, this amp is not a bad deal at all though 1400w dynamic for that price. But there are better budget options out there, such as the Pioneer GM-D9601

[@TGKcraft]

G6 Liara yeah people dont realize boss amps are actually really good for the price

[@errorserver3000]

G6 Liara love my GM-D9601!

[@MacNifty]

yeah but that Pioneer is almost double the price so that defeats your point on a good deal or better budget option.

[@likeclockwork6473]

Best amp under $200. Its basically a JBL GTX500 that goes to 1 ohm which the JBL can't. This Boss though beats that JBL when running 1 ohm and both were priced similarly. Keep in mind that this Boss is 58.5% efficient running it like you see in this video (at least going by my math I could be wrong) where that JBL will around 80%. 160 amps and 13.7v at 100% efficiency would be 2192 watts. This is only seeing 1425 watts. At 80% efficiency you would get 1753 watts which is realistic for a better quality amp. You will not get an amp like this for even close to $100 though.

[@krakenking1597]

love your channel, found it along time ago when looking for info on my US AMPS 100A and wondered about the boss line up. you saved alot of people time with this video, very detailed information great job as always!

[@wal]

Thank you for watching and commenting

[@wadehicks9270]

Not bad at all. Great video you've got things down to a science very cool 😎

[@wal]

Thank you sir!

[@JD704.]

Back in the day when they said boss... You told them to get lost. And now for the price not bad at all.

[@countryboisavage]

hey you get what you pay for 100 dollars is a deal for that many watts

[@wal]

Build quality was better than expected. I was expecting poor fitment, cheap feeling and lacking bass. I was pleasantly surprised as my low expectations were apparently too low...

[@jhue73]

actually a $100 is a steal compared to amp prices 20 years ago.

[@countryboisavage]

jhue73 true I remember dollar a watt prices

[@ryansmith917]

Realdude rec true!!! in 1998 ish I had a punch 1000 it was $1000 and they didn't have the technology to dyno amps...if they did we didn't know it

[@countryboisavage]

Ryan Smith they were definitely real power back then lol I had the same amp on 4 jl audio w6 12s back then going crazy blew them bout 3 times

[@smigletat9634]

Which just goes to show ya, if your amp is equipped with fuses, rule of thumb is every 10 amps will be.. normally in any given situation good for a 100watts :) Distortion is always give or take pertaining to brand/ make.

[@Djbz170]

A guy came to my shop with 2 of those "monsters" and 2 boss "2300watt" 12s he thought it banged. And was the loudest setup on the block.AAAnd it sounded like crap especially with the gain up all the way also on one battery rip off red top. 1000ca. And don't forget the box was one big rattle trap. His voltage drop tremendously were the car wanted to shut off. But after I redid the wiring with stinger 1/0 to the And for the big 3/4 also reinforced his box with some dail rods and a extra baffle. I also added a XS power D1200 in the back. Did the speaker wire as well (12gauge Rockford fosgate) each amp was tuned with a DD1 and gain match with a CC1. The system actually surprised the heck out of me according my to APM-1 he meter A 143db sealed. So it's loud for the price he paid. Boss maybe knocked but in the right box and tuned correctly it can bang That goes for any manufacturer. It's up to the installed to make it awesome.

[@nomaticvanduraartz1720]

djbz bruce-zabala that is very true back in the 90s people knew I could hook up stereos and they would always bring me a bunch of crap. I would hook it up and surprise everybody how good it ended up sounding.

[@americanjoe7679]

I completely agree, a good installer can make dog shit equipment sound GOOD!

[@25hztolife86]

Boss amps have a good sound to them and they do push subs hard. In comparison to my lightning audio, the Boss 700 watt I have just sounds better.

[@wal]

Ok 👌

[@Heburntmyshake]

is it even legal to advertise such BS numbers?

[@dawn9340]

silent saucepan it is legal. They don't advertise themselves as CEA-2006 compliant which is still not much of a standard since manufacturers like to test their amps at 14.4v instead of the 13.7v you'll experience at idle.

[@nukedathlonman]

Yep, it's 100% legal. And the car audio market isn't the only place you see these practices. Ever look at computer speakers? My servo drive Yamaha multimedia speakers where advertised as 100W "max" though the manual said 12W RMSx2. Yeah they are quite old now (but still work and sound great) - I don't think Yamaha makes computer speakers any more (too bad). Oh heck, just look at consumer home audio gear (esp the no-name brands).

[@pimphandgamester]

Takes double the power for +3db which in loudness perception is basically just barely perceptible. So it wouldn't really matter much anyway. You can see here the real world numbers, it's a $100...what does anyone expect? It could be half the power and no one would even notice because most normal people don't max out their volume knob with correct gain settings anyway.

[@tommccall9576]

Old school spanish music

[@consciouscool]

When boss first came out I had a small 250 watt that was pushing 2 10inch tubes and it was more than enough. I wired for mono and took out 1 tube when I started getting indigestion from the bass bouncing the acid in my stomach up.

[@BoomZoom808]

Love the honest review thumbs up 👍🏽

[@wal]

+BoomZoom808 I do these reviews for you guys, not the mfg's...even though Some want me to, I prefer to stay independent. You guys help me out by watching, sharing and using my links for eBay/Amazon. Helps me buy the stuff I test for you. I'm not doing this to get rich, doing it for the love 👍

[@jorgem50]

Back in the 90s, amps that could do these kind of numbers were unheard of. And if they existed, they cost $$ thousands.

[@dontrustwhiteyevery1]

A lot of them did these numbers, but the amp was rated way less.

[@timgermanyjr]

A Taramps 4k would fit in a mailbox and still give you 4k rms.

[@CantComFeeds]

taramps is a Brazilian board, almost guarantee you would see 4k out of it.

[@Joe_1776]

tramps do good power, but blow pretty easy if your electrical isn't in that sweet spot for volts.

[@MacNifty]

Yeah it's alot easier to get a larger voltage drop the higher the voltage you have to run it. If I remember correctly their amps are 200 volts! The cool thing is you can shock the shit out of someone on your door handles. lolol.

[@ghislainpitre7899]

Tim Germany Crapamps? You're better off with Mmats..

[@DVJiMATT]

256 watts total at 1 ohm. You have to realize it's not 120 amp it's rated for. It's only 40 amps. Cuz anytime anything over 40 amps runs across any one of those 3 fuses it's gonna pop a fuse if it's continuous.

[@MrPlasticdinosaur484]

seems like a good deal for hundred bucks but how would this amp hold up to hot summer days thumping in the trunk for extended periods of time? lol

[@joshpatten]

Anthony B D my guess is those bargain bin capacitors would quickly get out of spec and start wreaking havoc within a year or two.

[@jeffbarton3353]

Anthony B D read the amazon reviews. A lot say they run hot. I probably wouldnt go 1 ohm on it at consistant high volume

[@lilkamabeast]

+Jeffrey Barton You're right. Running 1 ohm on these boss amps will over heat and kick in and out of protection mode. If you do use a boss for hours just fold down the seats and crack the windows and viola.

[@DaBuGzLiFe]

lilkamabeast 😂😂😂

[@natelibstaff3395]

Running at one ohm kills all amps faster than 2ohm. It's like red lining an engine while driving every time, all drive long. Further heat, vibration, age, and moisture are the demise of all electronics.

[@maryjaneevadiamond6359]

I think your generous on the 15V assumption. Granted some people do run 16V for better performance, but all car alternators are 15V Ice cold, to 14.4V expected Voltage to 13.8V hot, with internal regulator. So I hope no one runs a large system without the car on. LOL. Still I would give this amp a generous 1656 watt rating at it's lowest possible Ohm rating. Myself I owned a good Boss amp over 20 years ago, it came with a 6 year warranty, and it actually held up. Eventually it suffered from vibration damage.

[@danabarnes4751]

What does max power even mean? We have all seen this for years, where does it come from? This is a weird industry where b******* still thrives. What's up with that?

[@iceman45ification1]

Sucks that Boss started out great, being made by ZED, then ending up as low buck gear. Gotta admit though, the guts look like it's pretty well made. Overall, not a bad little amp for a rookie. Great video BigD!! 👌

[@wal]

+Danny Caballero thanks my old school friend!

[@pimphandgamester]

Zed as a brand doesn't mean anything special these days. There are many engineers like mantz, and superior patented designs

[@iceman45ification1]

Pimphand Gamester Who do you think was behind most, if not all the designs at ZED Audio? Mantz himself. 😉

[@pimphandgamester]

No shit?. Like I said, there are many people like him and there are superior design patents today than his. Enthusiasts have way over glorified his companies brand.

[@iceman45ification1]

Pimphand Gamester Not saying his designs are the best. But what once were the brands he made amps for are garbage today, compared to what they used to be. Everyone has there preferences. Me personally, I'm a PPI guy anyway.

[@thewindsorproject796]

Better numbers than I was expecting! Normally MAX means drop a zero, and double it... 4000=400x2 RMS

[@MRnounoursSQ]

i think about 800 watts rms

[@xtremetrap3539]

MRnounoursSQ at 1 ohm

[@MRnounoursSQ]

at around 5:20 BIG D is asking how much? mi guess was 800 watts RMS and yes at 1 ohm and surprisingly it did more. i have a ARMOR 2500 and i think it hits around 350 watts RMS it is a good amp for the price it would be nice if they would put the real RMS value on there amp.which BIG D would test one ; )

[@ericvillano5729]

Derek, I decided to order this amp today, 2/7/20, based on your review. I didn't pay $85.00 you paid, as Amazon's price went up to $114.95. But I wound up paying $109.95 for it on Walmart.com, which still seemed like a pretty good deal, even though it was a bit more than I wanted to spend. I watched several of your amp dynos, as well as many of Budget Gems. Despite the fact that Boss grossly exaggerates, and sensationalized their ratings with their fictitious figures, I found I was quite hard pressed to find an amp actual dyno tested figures of power this high for $100. The watts per dollar in the neighborhood of 950 + watts dynamically at 2 ohms looks pretty hard to beat. And nothing beats the validated research you do, and dyno results. I'm thinking this should drive my two JBL 12" subs, at 4 ohms each for a final 2 ohm load quite nicely. Interested in hearing your thoughts and opinions on that. I was also impressed with your thoughts on the build quality, and the fact you had a hard time destroying a Boss, short of dropping shreds of copper wires inside of the chassis. That in itself speaks volumes of what one might anticipate in terms of an amps durability, and longevity. I considered many amps, and found a few that did come close, but went up in price dramatically since being dynoed. One in particular was the Walmart in store stock Power Acoustic amp for $69 when dynoed by Budget Gems, which is now almost $100.00 in store. No doubt retailers like Amazon and Walmart are watching these dynos, and marking up their price. In any case, I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your videos, and how influential, and helpful they are for us naive consumers out here, who are quite easily duped by market strategy, deception, and baloney some of these snake oil salespeople will try to have us believe. At least those of us armed with knowledge you provide can make educated choices, and find value for our hard earned dollar. For that sir, I thank you for all your efforts.

[@pewpro941]

Half tempted to order 2 of them and strap them on my power hx2s and see how they do

[@wal]

+shawn hilton I really need to get some subs hooked up and wired at 1 ohm so I can really give these amps a true test with subs after the Dyno test. My 4 ohm Infinity Perfect sub barely makes them sweat

[@Skarfar90]

Hmm.. Something like a Sundown SA-12 wouldn't be too bad though. Those subs comes with an optional D2 or D4 coil, and are rated at 750w RMS

[@jamesalexander5847]

shawn hilton don't... Get soundstream rub 2500... Really good and for around 200 bucks

[@martinneps9387]

I have from my car that I bought 2 Of the fifteen's and I also have 2 ten's yeah 4 of the 6 by nines what kind of amps would I need to push that and their boss please comment back in let me now I am trying to stay with everything boss I have to TV the head unit and the DVD player Please let me know what would be the best boss amp I am very curious

[@chrisphilhower6029]

I'm more Impressed that you Actually received it.

[@normalicy]

I used to work for a small shop where Boss was the biggest brand we could get legitimately. This is back in 1995 when they were almost unknown. At the time, they seemed to be wanting to compete with the larger brands and had a pro line as well as offer a base line. Their pro stuff was rock sold and I'd even say the ratings were accurate. Their base line stuff was exaggerated, but similar to this review. The price was so good that people forgave it. And honestly, all of our customers were very happy. We were able to set people up with a very loud system for under $500 using a "600w" Boss amp and a pair of Earthquake Annihilator subs installed. That was cheap in the day. They always came back to us saying how they kept up with people who had $1000 systems. We never tried to convince people that their amps were top end stuff, just a good value. And comparing the Boss amps to other cheap brands (Pyramid, Power Acoustik, Rockwood, etc.) at the time, Boss came out way ahead. I have always thought that Boss had many good heatsink designs through the years. Particularly the AVA-600M or AVA-400M. Oh and I still have a couple of those amps from 1995 and they still work perfectly. Sadly, I can't say that about a lot of the Rockford/Soundstream/Phoenix Gold amps I have.

[@wal]

+Mickey Pietrzak great info, thanks 👍

[@DarrinLintz710]

Can we as followers send you amps to test? I love your Channel but I feel like I haven't seen a real amp in a while

[@wal]

+nirrad ztnil I can't please everybody, maybe I'll eventually test something you consider a real amp. I don't currently take amps from viewers for many reasons, but this may change in the future...we'll see

[@E4EonEbay]

BigDWiz I can see giving out your address for shipping from viewers, and potential liability claims for blowing up their vintage amps on the dyno.... not sure how to solve that last issue, but a PO box to have them ship the amps to would solve the address privacy issue.

[@lmatos369]

BigDWiz bigwiz I’m a new viewer like 3 days in and I think this guy has a point. More amps that people let u Dyno the more videos means more views u will get. Change ur crazy policy !!

[@robertzinda9818]

Big D been scope'n your vidz or years and have seen all kinds of amps true colors revealed but i cant recall ever seeing any Old Hollywood Sound Labs I have an RS-800 that ive repaired so many times the copper is gone where the transistors mount and I have to run the leads directly to the input resistors and the heat bars hold them in place. I have not seen any info on the specs but its a 2 channel class AB cheater amp, No fuse onboard, mine will run great in AZ heat for months bridged mono at 1 Ohm then out of the blue not even warm at low volume at a stop light ill see flames inside the clear plexi cover as another transistor burns up. A test of anything they made would be fun to see. and 1 other company ive never seen is Kenwood, never was a fan till i took out my RS-800 for repairs and saw i had a kenwood execlon 1600 sitting in a stack of amps that sat untested for years. I was very surprized when I installed it, Been my substitute amp for years now, never an issue always at 1 ohm and always in the hottest livable environment on earth. Any kenwood amp test just to see what they do compared to advertised. Not a popular brand, mine sat untested for at least 5 years, i dont even know where i picked mine up thats how much i thought of Kenwood before i decided to see if it even worked. its rated at 400w @4ohms 800w@2ohms 1600w@1ohm class D mono. or how about a Kole {i run a big 2 channel AB bridged mono 1 ohm without issues)

[@wal]

😬👍

[@Blockustomz2]

It blows my mind that this is #1 on mono amp in amazon... But i guess i get it. They design is clean and the build will get you by. Like you said perfect for a noob. I had a Sound Storm lab ab-class 2000w and it was made by boss. It put out some bang but it wasn't the cleanest watts and clipped very easy and got hot as hell. I beat the shit out of it though. Good for starters

[@wal]

Amazon can't keep them in stock. I've been watching for a few months and prices vary between 82 (lowest I've seen) and around 110.

[@REH86]

Umm.. if it "clipped" that because you had your gains/bass boost/head unit settings or volume too high.

[@REH86]

bavarianblessed I wasn't talking about BigD's on the video... I was replying to BlocKustomz comment about his experience with his amplifier.

[@MacNifty]

If I bought 9 of these amps for the price of one Rockford T1500.1bdcp... I think the dude with just the one T1500.1bdcp would fkn cry when you turn up the system and watch those cones fry!!!!

[@crackmoney7484]

#1 on amazon probably cause of the price point and so many people just wanting a decent budget system. for $100 give or take afew bucks its definitely not a bad buy if your broke or just wanr a little bump and dont care about competition level setups for the 1000s and 1000s they cost. Makes sense its the #1 selling amp

[@ronniepaige6045]

Do you think I should purchase 2 of those 4000 Watt boss amp to push my new Alpine Type R's 1000 watt RMS each?

[@dudergames6547]

I've been waiting for a video like this to show the real numbers.. I had this amp when it first came out and it sounded great and pushed pretty hard. at the time I was getting a reliable 800 watts out of it pushing 4 cheapo 10s in my truck. it was an awesome sounding budget system

[@OzZy-13820]

I had one and was running two polk momo 12's in a ported box and two old xplode 12's in a sealed box, in a 2000 grand Cherokee, my rear window used to Flex a lot actually

[@bigteo90]

Lol honestly if you go in with no expectations you'll never be disappointed

[@johnnyditommaso6807]

3 of these on 6 12's would do some SPL! I love budget stuff! I have probably watched this video 10 times. Its never disappointing! LOVE BUDGET STUFF!!!

[@LetsGetStarted]

Well. I used some incredibly cheap 6x9 speakers by Boss for a DIY "boombox" project and they are pretty good for the price so maybe this amp could be the same (being decent that is not 4000W of course).

[@woodroblue8332]

I like boss amps I run one now sounds really good 👍

[@REH86]

It only tested badly because you robbed it of power with the 4 gauge wire. It would have done the 4k watts if you gave it 1/0 power. Just kidding, obviously.

[@psylimprince9053]

Robert H. I was about to say lol

[@anishpatel5715]

I bought 4 of these in the past, 3 of the caps inside blow after a while driving at 2 ohms. You'll see my review on amazon to replace them. This is a good amp for the buck, really is, and as BigDWiz says great for starter setup because that was when I had my starter setup. I had the 2000, then the 3000, then the 4000, and I actually liked these amps until they started blowing those caps. But in reality if you want power just dish out the money ahead of time and get good amps and good power. As with any amp make sure you have enough power to push these, you don't need much extra especially if you just have 1 amp, a HO alternator and maybe a second battery.

[@wavycrockett4261]

Bro you don't need extra power to push these I got mines stock and it does just fine

[@Undead_Outlaw710]

I have this amp paired up with two mofos and they pound hard!!! 134 db!!!

[@jkdunk20001988]

Lol

[@dirtyred9376]

That boss is trash false advertising 👎👎👎. Throw it in the scrap ben. 😁🙈

[@mothership1985]

I was right there with ya Big D thinkin this thing is gonna be hilarious, I was surprisingly shocked also, not enough to purchase one, but yeah that flea market amp is coming up in the world.

[@SuperBlah57]

in all fairness, this generation has it 'good" so to speak. we had a 1000 wat amp that was about 1250 or so back in the late 80 or early 90's or so. now for about a few dollars yall have what we DREAMED of having back then .we were the $hit back then if we had 600 plus wats and we were amazed at that that somebody could afford it. fast forward to now and i have a conservative rating of about 3795 of rms power now on just 2 amps. just saying how good yal have it .

[@wal]

Very true! We are spoiled these days, unreal to get a true 1kW amp for $100

[@whozaskin3639]

Well, all that being said... Some of the old school stuff is still kicking hard, and sounds amazing.

[@LerRhann]

right now this amp is only 95 dollars. I want it NOW. next paycheck I will buy one through your channel so I can support you.

[@gradyjones5537]

I bought 4 of these 4000 watt boss amps and they all burnt up 1 lasted a month 1 lasted 1 week and two of them i strapped together to two 15 inch rockford p3's they lasted two weeks and burnt up in my experience with the boss ar line the only one that i found to be a good one was the ar 1500 i put it on 4 rockford r2's and lasted for a year and a half then sold it and the r2 subs to upgrade to all rockford prime 1200 amps and rockford p3 subs been two years now and no problems Rockford fosgate prime 1200 Is a great little amp that is reliable And p3 subs hit clear and hard Rockford = quality & dependability Just my real life experience with all these products

[@ixionn563]

Willing to bet it on the cheap ass capacitors. Fingers crossed on my "1200 watt" 4 channel, solid so far. I have two channels bridged running my sub and the other 2 for my speakers, with the gains properly set it's impressive for the price I paid, definitely better than head unit power. Considering putting a 1500 watt monoblock in for the sub and running the 1200 watt as a dedicated 4 channel.

[@maimaimaired]

Awesome review of this amp. I dont know anything about amps however i do love loud bass. Lol, will this amp be able to push 2 12s? Thanks in advance

[@danielphillips5229]

short answer is yes it can push 2 12s. But will it sound good? depends on the subs

[@maimaimaired]

@@danielphillips5229 thank u.

[@andreslicea1240]

Daniel Phillips 2 kicker comp vr 12s will it bump

[@larodmusic]

Thanks for the video! I like that you call it like it is. It might be cheap but for $100 bucks is a good deal and the build quality is decent. Thanks again!

[@03_austindrake88]

So it comes with a "steal me" sticker or a "break into my car" sticker, but I think if you put a Boss sticker on your car, it'd actually probably deter thieves. They'd see Boss and realize it's not worth it. LOL

[@anonymouslegion4928]

MonsterRacing 38 😂😂😂😂👊

[@cuchsluch]

Man, about 11 years ago my neighbor had a Boss amp pusing 2 12's, i could hear him coming down the road about 1/4 a mile away

[@Brian1.]

Big D I gotta say I appreciate what you do man. I was surprised to see this myself. It is a nice amp when it comes to looks

[@wal]

+Brian Miles thanks for watching and commenting. I enjoy testing amps and making vids, glad you guys appreciate the effort I put into this channel

[@martinneps9387]

What amps would be the best 4 to 12 and I have 2 Fifteen's I want to stay boss because I have the head junior I have to TV to DVD player for 6 in the quarters and I had the 215 and the to 12 Please let me know I'm working on Getting to be sponsored by boss Love the speakers I have a brand new in the Box

[@MacNifty]

You have to understand D WIz that those fuse ratings today mean nothing about current draw. I just seen you test that tiny little amp I forget what it was in brand but it had only I think 80 amp fusing and you said nothing the same like this video and that amp drew 150 amps of current. Peak amps is like peak wattage right? Digital switching circuits D class do not consume raw power like Class A, B or G or H. D is a whole other class and fusing cannot be counted the same. The biggest problem I see with this amp is efficiency. It pulled 111 amps on 14 volts at 1ohm certified. Horrible efficiency. An amp that delivers anything more than 300 rms for just $99.00 that's a great deal and you can't argue that. It really sucks the amp manufacturers will put lies on the box overrating however it's no different than Rockford claiming to be a certain rate and going over that rate which makes both brands cheaters or liars. I'm glad after I already wrote this you did say great boom for the buck. My very first amp in 92 was that big blue anodized aluminum BOSS 600 watt amp and it probably only put out 300rms back then class A mosfet. I can't find anyone with a picture of that amp today at all. That was more than enough power for the Kicker 15" freeair solobaric back then that could I think only could handle 300rms back then. I know one thing My Dodge Aries piece of crap first car K-Car was bumping pretty damn good for minimum wage income. lol. The next amp I bought was the Majestic mosfet 500 watt amp. Then I kept saving and straight to the top with Rockford Fosgate Punch amps.

[@TroubledOnePaydirt]

Had a boss amp in high school. It banged for a couple months then a cooler tipped over in my trunk and spilled water all over it...rip...lol...upgraded to soundstream and never looked back. Surprised boss is still around 20 years later! Top of the line for flea market amps in my opinion...

[@stevebellen8674]

kris Martin hifonics is top of the line flea market amp

[@TroubledOnePaydirt]

Steve Bellen I’m talking back in the 90’s...was hifonics around back then? I don’t remember seeing that brand back then....

[@brinkman4925]

I love boss. It's cheap stuff but great for first time installers, extra budget friendly installs. Have always been satisfied by the price quality ratio for boss just did my nephew's first sound system with a boss amp and he smiles from ear to ear now.

[@wal]

The purpose of this video may have been misunderstood. It wasn't really to bash Boss, but to show what you should expect from a 4kW rated amp for $100. In all honesty, it's a ton of amp for the money and perfect for the budget conscious. You can always upgrade when the funds allow.

[@drshoots101]

On a budget $100 for 1000 w ain't too bad but if you can afford it there's the CAB 1600.1 and or a referbished skar 2000.1 both for around $200 Look up Ther dyno tests. I had the cab 1600.1 hooked to 2 sundown SAs wire down to half ohm and I clamped the app to see my average wattage and I averaging 1668w and that was on 12v system if i did it correctly

[@reimoz7359]

Worlds most powerful mailbox!!

[@acemobile9806]

Lmao hope Derek sees this comment

[@thebassgeneratorinc229]

We tend to forget that the majority of the audio market do not compete. brand name aren't as important to some as it is on the competition formats. the streets are where these products thrives and these companys revenue backs it up. note that mostvof the major player ate now trying to enter this market. to a novice? they don't know any difference between 400 to 4k watts, all they knpw is that it works well for them. I have a Face Book group that yries to help educate these people about their audio plus how to better use them. the product ussge and sales has gone up and some used this platform to learn before stepping up to better products and entering the competition forums....tjis is why I stand by these products and all audio due to we all have different objectives as well as prefgerence in what we are willing to spend doing so.

[@carpetcleaningprofessor]

what I just don't understand is why the manufacturer just can't throw the rated power out there where else can you get a $100 thousand watt amp I mean would they seriously sell you less if they said rated power thousand Watts if anything people would be able to brag about it thank you for the video

[@Johnson1281]

That amp is garbage juice!!!! You got lucky with the dyno test. Boss has always been inconsistent with thier pruducts. 7 out of 10 products usually malfunction in a short period of time.

[@DangerDavefpv]

have you tested the older mtx 1501d? thats what i have in s10 ext with soundqubed 2-10" but only did a 144.3db outlaw and also id like to ask about mmatts 2300 ive got its almost new looking

[@KuntalGhosh]

Many people believe these cheap amps are cause of vehicle fire.. no! These are not the cause of fire. The main cause of fire is cheap wiring and 17yo doing improper janky installations in their hondas.. the amp is in a metal box and even if it blows up semiconductor fires do not last longer than a few minutes and they do produce heat but not enough heat to cause carpet or other things to catch fire unless in direct contact which is not possible cus the whole thing is a big sheet metal and aluminium case..

[@Aaron48219]

Good old Boss swap meet amp. Even if struck by lightning while being powered by a nuclear reactor melting down, those ratings will never get there.

[@94XJ]

If the claimed output was actually accurate, it wouldn't be a bad budget amp. Boss just needs too chill with their ratings and stop trying to pretend their stuff is so crazy.

[@MartinsAutoSpaLLC]

I've just purchased a skar audio DVC 600watt rms subwoofer. Would you run the 1 ohm at 908watt or the 2 ohm at 710watt?

[@michelbergeron3596]

Can you please inbox me I have a couple questions I wanted to ask you also do you think you could check a Roscoe Fosgate power T1000 1B at 1 ohm on a dyno test

[@unclephill68]

OK........ Lets see if I got this right, roughly 1200 watts for around $100. and it can be strapped 2400 watts dynamic burst for under 200 bucks and around 260 amps total current draw oh yeah and it fits in a mailbox. Dam that's alright. Not everyone wants or can afford a bid $$ stereo but if you can cool . I think I'm going to get 2 for my son (16yrs old) and 2 FU audio 750-18D2's . Thanks BID D keep up the Good Work!

[@joeyholthusen6495]

I did buy a planet audio 5k .... Lol no it put out maybe 1,000 hooked up to my soundstream splx 12" ....it lasted for 2 years.. now I got a Brutis amp from power of the Gods, it's way cleaner. But bang for the buck.... I've been a fan of the Kenwood excelon series.... but always trying other brands. Been into audio since the late 1980s... I've sold Orion, Kenwood, kicker, pioneer, MA audio, Panasonic, infinity, virtual technology they made awesome boxes, and the hammer line of subs. The Amps were made by Harris labs. I was a electronic strore manager for over 10 year's. We did up around 1.6-1.8 million a year with 5 employee's... the owner passed away and store is gone now... I sure do miss the old days of db drags, ect....was fun putting it on for the Fan's of audio.

[@starliteaquatics7308]

I think Boss has Yet to make ONE decent product that dose its rating they claimed.. Bullshit Company with Cheap Chinese Parts Amps they SUCK BAHAHAHA 908 WATTS @1ohm certified CALMING 4000 🤣🤣🤣 Some BIG DUMMY should or probably will end up Sueing for False Advertising

[@Van1018s]

So I’m 5 minutes in and you said leave a comment and tell us what you think. I’ve had 2 thoughts so far. 1 my $1100 jl audio amp did not come with a bass knob, that was $40 extra and it’s super cheap and plastic, and the amp does about 1000 watts. It’s a 900/5. So at least $1 a watt. 2 This amp comes with a cheap plastic bass knob and costs $90. So if it does more than 90 watts jl audio ripped me off. Lol. I’m guessing it does about 1000 watts. Maybe 13-1400 dynamic. So now I’ve watched the video. This amp did not go into protect at 1 ohm certified. It did 1425 dynamic so that’s a little over 6 cents a watt, and it’s pretty efficient . Make fun of boss all you want. This amp is a freakin steal. Who cares what it’s rated at.

[@johndyson4109]

BOSS has been around for a long time. They used to make a lot of guitar effect peddles back in the day..80s... Please include AMERAGE draw on your tests..? THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING AMERAGE on tests!!

[@josepeixoto3384]

I see three 40 Amp fuses; 120 A x 14 Volts gives us 1680 Watts DC in; efficiency is around 64 %, so music watts RMS out will be around 1075 Watts; gonna watch the movie now... edit: it pulled 138 Amps when feeding a 1 ohm load!!! ; i guess it was for a very short time; if it was sustained, the fuses should blow, am i right?

[@Fister_of_Muppets]

For what it [actually] puts out, it's not a bad deal for $85. It actually performed better at 1 ohm than I expected. There's better options out there too. But my biggest gripe is these cheap amp manufacturers with bogus claims like "4000 watts" when then fusing makes it obvious that it would be impossible (unless this amp could somehow handle 36+ volts lol). I don't expect everyone who's dropping $85 on an amp to have extensive electrical knowledge, but I would hope that something could be done about these companies that make false claims of their output/capability. Decades ago I was turned on to JL Audio because they rated their speakers at true RMS. The first 500 watt monoblock Class D amp they ever made, I bought one, it cost me $450 at the time (about $1200 in today's current money). It was advertised at 500 watts RMS. The certified paper that came with it said 1720 watts peak, which I believe because I was pushing a set of W3's that I was blowing line fuses with regularly until I went with a 100-amp breaker that I would only occasionally trip when I tried pushing it too far. In older age now I don't need something that rattles windows half mile away, but I still buy higher-end stuff just for the fidelity and capability to support a robust soundstage. That's the most important thing I learned once I jumped from cheap bargain stuff to more expensive brands, the quality of what you're hearing goes up dramatically regardless of loudness. I'll take 500 watts of clean volume over 800 watts of clipping every day.

[@wal]

👍

[@tatsumaru12345]

Would make a nice amp for my 12" jbl subwoofer. Only need 300w at 4 ohms for that. BUT! Spade connectors, yuck! Hate them. I'll always pay the extra penny to get compression direct wire connects. Still using a old school 2005 sony 4 channel bridged for that sub. 125w. Seems to buy a nice amp for that sub, runs at least around 100$.

[@Modzie868]

my country worship boss amps, that so called 4k, I only advise newbies to get that and a pair of champion series 12's for it.

[@JFar-jf6qq]

So do you have any suggestions for a single Sub.. that would be a good choice for this amp? I have been out of the car audio "game" for quite a few years and I'm startin to build a system for my truck? Insane massive bass is a must for me,and my M.O. has always been big subs with big SPL......I'm kinda diggin the lower priced brands and equipment so I can demolish and melt shit down occasionally without losing to much sleep and/or a wife? Any suggestions? Thx

[@likeclockwork6473]

For $100 its hard to really shit on it but that efficiency is case and point for you get what you pay for. The Pioneer you tested did 71% at 1 ohm certified and this did a 58.5%. Don't cheap out on your amp folks. You get what you pay for. Two of these running 1 ohm will do 1800 watts and peak to 2800 watts. Two of those Pioneers running 1 ohm will do 2400 watts and peak in excess of 3500 watts. Those Pioneers will run off the same alternator as two of these Boss amps without issue (unless you really skimp on the alt too). You think you are saving a buck but you end up spending the same amount of money throughout the rest of the system. Same batteries and alternator