Two things... 1) The Staccato P is approved by over 1500 departments (not the 300 you stated in the video). Source: Staccato > Stories > Law Enforcement > Reliability 2) You made it appear as if an Optic Adapter Plate comes with the pistol. It does not. The P only comes with an optics cover plate. If you spec your optic while ordering from the Staccato site, the additional price of the optic adapter plate is rolled in to the add-on price of the optic selected. If you order the RMR, the price is $650 ($500 for the RMR and $150 for the adapter plate). When viewing base models at your FFL, they are displayed only with cover plates and usually there is a display off to the side with various optic adapter plates available for separate purchase ranging from $150-170. Aside from those two items... The review is pretty much on point.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Great, thanks for the info!
@James_the_not_so_magnificent6 ай бұрын
LE purchases come with the RMR optic plate at no extra cost. I've got three, no added cost. Plus, Staccato will loan a pistol to replace a pistol used and taken as evidence in a duty shooting. You can't beat that if you're LE.
@mjk43786 ай бұрын
Staccato has wonderful service when it comes to sending gun in for warranty work. Got mine back in a week. Even got a threaded barrel fitted and was back in a week as well.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! Glad to hear it!
@packerjansen126 ай бұрын
Staccato P is Approved by 1300 + departments actually! Love mine.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Great!
@PaulFrancisAAA6 ай бұрын
Incorrect. The Staccato P is approved by over 1500 departments. Source: Staccato > Stories > Reliability
@TacticallyFitOfficial6 ай бұрын
@@PaulFrancisAAA don’t get too worked up on this dude. Looks like you’ve said it multiple times in the comment section 😂
@PaulFrancisAAA6 ай бұрын
@@TacticallyFitOfficial Correcting disinfo is never a bad thing.
@Balticblue933 ай бұрын
@@packerjansen12 They might be approved for use in those departments but I only know of the US Marshals that can get them issued. I am not aware of any other department doing so. The officer themselves have to get written permission to carry their own personal firearm that they purchased themselves. I would certainly like to see this list of 1500 departments. None of the major Federal Government branches like the FBI, CBI, etc etc issue or approve of Staccato firearms to be carried on duty. Maybe SWAT or any Major crimes unit, but I know LAPD and Denver PD for sure doesn’t allow it. A very good firearm but not remotely as reliable as the approved firearms on the FBI, CBP, CIA, Secret Service lists of duty firearms etc. I am not aware of one SF branch using or carrying Staccatos. They are not battle tested or approved. I am an Advanced Glock armorer and a majority of police officers don’t even know how to disassemble, clean and lubricate their Glocks, let alone put them back together. Spring’s are flying all over the place and losing parts in an armorer class. So, the idea that officers are shelling out $3000 including light and Red dot for a Staccato P is very unlikely. To this day, I have never met an officer carrying a Staccato. I have met some that owned a Staccato but not for EDC duty usage. If any officers on this thread reads this, please comment your experience and what you carry. Thank you!
@Scarlett03117 ай бұрын
Extremely solid and thorough review brother !
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@thegreenberetlife01916 ай бұрын
The Oracle Defense 2311 is a really interesting gun, hope it takes off!
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
For sure!
@TAT7606 ай бұрын
Really liking how the new 2311 compact can come ported and it’s still a little bit cheaper than staccato
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
For sure!
@c.edwardbrice34707 ай бұрын
Great vid. Been waiting this review and comparison. I have a Staccato P and a 2311 Pro Compact on the way. So looking forward to compare the two myself.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Both of them are really good. The 2311s are sweet and have really grown on me.
@ZensivYT3 ай бұрын
Which do you prefer?
@Balticblue933 ай бұрын
@@ZensivYT I am not the OP but I sold my Staccato P after I ran my Platypus custom ordered double stack 1911. I kept my XC but the 2311 Pro Compact Ported Plus is so nice and no grip safety. It shoots better than the P. I do not EDC any firearm with an external safety. Even at the range, I might put the safety on holstering it but click the safety off once it’s seated. I would love a 2311 or 2011 with no external safeties. I don’t appendix carry and my EDC firearms don’t have external safeties.
@jeffreydietz83396 ай бұрын
As always great video perfect video for me I just purchased a Staccato P and followed it up with an order for the new OA Compact Pro, I'm feeling happy with my choices! You cant wrong with any of there firearms. Keep up the great reviews and providing information your one of the best ones out there.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Happy to hear that! We appreciate the support and enjoy those awesome pistols! Let us know how they shoot!
@mjk43786 ай бұрын
For anyone who doesn't know about Staccato Optic/ plates. The Delta Point Pro bolts up directly to slide. So all you need is the rear site. For any other optic, you will need to take that rear sight off and use an optic plate.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Great
@Thomas-vt7cz7 ай бұрын
You made my day bruh... I love my Staccato P...Good comparison, Nice job... You brought up a couple of my concerns i have with the P and that is reaching the mag release and slide stop/release. Working on quick one hand adjustments getting better at it...😎
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@brianbaker58606 ай бұрын
It did seem like the recoil impulse was lighter for sure on STI. You werent bouncing as hard. Thanks for review.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@valentinomariani57396 ай бұрын
Very nice comparison. I think that the 2311 grab the good from the 1911/2011 and reject all the old garbage nonsense like the extractor, the grip safety and the ridiculous expensive magazines without mentioning the fact that she doesn't need hand fitting, that is mandatory for a good reliable 1911/2011. The old reliable is dead. Long life to the new reliable
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@The2AExperiment6 ай бұрын
Another great video. It's always good to compare a new firearm to the "standard". I really want to see a comparison between the Platypus and the 2311. We cannot afford to do the review ourselves. Lol. Damn Walther SF and upgrades used up our budget. Either way, those two are using non-2011 mags, so it seems like they would be an interesting comparison.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
It would be! I wish we could get one in a timely manner or if someone in that company would answer emails or the phone 😂 Thanks for watching! And for the support! Those Walther steel frames are sweet!
@joebledea5 ай бұрын
You should definitely try a bul armory 2011! It's Staccato P performance for less!
@heliowolf50427 ай бұрын
I know 2011s can have issues in adverse conditions. I would love to see the 2311 tested against the Staccato P for relaibility in dust, mud and sand.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
I think the 2311 would win.
@PaulFrancisAAA6 ай бұрын
You can do something much easier than that. Put the P up against any 9mm Glock with 3K of ammo on the table for each pistol. No adding lube and no stopping to clean. 1911/2011s are sweet shooters but they need to be well lubed... and well lubed OFTEN (compared to Glocks). For what is is worth, I own a Staccato P, I'm not a Glock fanboy trying to stir the pot.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
@@PaulFrancisAAA you are right! Couldn’t agree more! 💪
@BrandonD6 ай бұрын
You gotta compare the LFA Apollo 11 compact. For $1000 it def competes and extremely reliable , butter slide and flat as the higher priced competition
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Having felt that pistol at SHOT and in action there. It does not compete with either of these. It’s inline with the prodigy, but if we can get one to review, we will!
@ericks91276 ай бұрын
For me personally the staccato P has been my favorite pistol I have ever shot.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
I’m sure it is!
@HertzPenske7 ай бұрын
Great video. I carry a Staccato CS and looking to add another Staccato to my collection, either the P or C2.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
P FOR THE WIN! 👍
@danielhenderson83167 ай бұрын
Something I would love to see is one of these against the Sig P226 Legion SAO. Whenever anyone talks about Duty SAO guns, people always sleep on this while being almost $1K cheaper and direct mounts RMR and DPP optics with no plates.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Although a direct mount, you get no cowitness and no recoil lugs either on the SAO 226. However, those are a great option as well. My first duty pistol was a P226
@danielhenderson83167 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel If you stay all Sig and put a Romeo X, you get Co witness standard height night sights.
@danielhenderson83167 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannelIf you stay all Sig, you could put a Romeo X on the P226 and have co witness standard height night sights.
@danielhenderson83167 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel If you stay all Sig and get a Romeo X, the co witness sights become a non issue because the optic is designed for standard height sights, and the Sig XRay3s are some of the best.
@danielhenderson83166 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel If you keep it all Sig, you can buy a Romeo X and have an anchored red dot that can use standard height sights.
@Stfunope1318 күн бұрын
I have the p, c2, and c. I also have the 2311 compact pro. I prefer the 2311 over the staccatos.
@HuntFishShootChannel18 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@Jasondranoff7 ай бұрын
Another Great video, thanks for sharing.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Drewdown3827 ай бұрын
Excellent review! Well done.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Th3UnluckyGam3r6 ай бұрын
Something I'm curious about is how the 2311 Pro would stack up against the Staccato P. I'm still waiting on my 2311 Compact Pro, but it has a ported barrel for extra recoil control.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Yeah if you got the ported barrel model, that would be interesting!
@scottsears51567 ай бұрын
Bul armory makes some pretty decent double stack 1911’s. Would love to see it compared to the Staccato. I have the staccato xc and love it. Great video.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
People keep talking about those! Gonna have to try one out asap!
@AMCAL23117 ай бұрын
Isn't this video about the Ocracle and staccato......there are videos out there with those 2 in comparison...
@hawaiianpunch67837 ай бұрын
@@AMCAL2311 And? Some people would prefer a review by their preferred youtuber, no two reviews are the same.
@TheRancor537 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a platypus versus staccato review as well although humble marksman has done it I would just like to see a little more detail on fit and finish between them.
@PaulFrancisAAA6 ай бұрын
The Bul TAC Pro is a worthy adversary. Either one could legitimately win depending on the test criteria of the reviewer.
@rodhat7946 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see what kind of wear is in the 2311.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
We will have a high round count update in the future , but Tactical Considerations has one with a high round count, check out his videos on them
@bruinranger136 ай бұрын
If the P was steel that could certainly be the difference in recoil impulse. The OA 2311 has an aluminum frame.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Both are aluminum. It’s the spring weights and how they are sprung.
@kamikazelyricist15636 ай бұрын
Great review! Im definitely subscribing
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@captainohsowavy4 ай бұрын
Only issue I seen with the 2311 is the plate and front sight The suppressor height sights give will make you shoot 6-8inches low The optic cut should allow you to shoot with the standard low front sight making it co witness But it’s definitely imo a better shooter over the staccato P
@HuntFishShootChannel4 ай бұрын
Hmmm I haven’t experienced that with the 2311 for how it shoots using irons
@matthewbaker53595 ай бұрын
Staccato all day everyday.
@HuntFishShootChannel5 ай бұрын
💪
@Waynethegunner4 ай бұрын
I have both
@beck42185 ай бұрын
Mike, you're clearly better with the Staccato, but likely due to time on the platform.
@HuntFishShootChannel5 ай бұрын
That is likely why! I could redo this now and the shooting for the 2311 is better. I have been shooting it a ton!
@Alexander_8087 ай бұрын
I think a better battle would be between the Oracle Arms 2311 and the Stealth Arms platypus 2011… Sig mags vs Glock mags… 🤷🏽♂️
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Well we would need a Platypus first which we don’t have.
@vgpena17 ай бұрын
Platypus vs anything from Bul to Staccato would be great actually because its price ranges from 1400-2000 😮
@dsxz6 ай бұрын
if its ejecting further that means its undersprung not sprung stronger..if its ejecting too far you can go stiffer on the recoil spring and it will feel less flippy
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Great thanks. The truth is, I have no idea how the it’s sprung, poundage wise. Nor do I care, since it’s shooting well and doing what I want it to.
@VegasVaron22 күн бұрын
Staccato P!
@HuntFishShootChannel22 күн бұрын
👍
@wilbrininger79864 ай бұрын
Great review
@HuntFishShootChannel4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@tntac17 ай бұрын
5 mags seals the deal
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
It’s pretty nice! The optics plates you get are also very nice. Everything you need is included!
@JMHall11175 ай бұрын
I just went to their site and it says you only get 3 17 round magazines
@Joeseph1132 ай бұрын
Which of these guns has a smaller grip? When I hold a Springfield Prodigy or a Kimber KDS9c my thumb sits just short of the mag release and I cant actuate it.
@HuntFishShootChannel2 ай бұрын
The OA Defense has a smaller grip and easier to press mag release!
@colincrosby8105 ай бұрын
Didn’t notice if the staccato was the steel or aluminum gun? What do you feel most people order?
@HuntFishShootChannel5 ай бұрын
I would recommend just getting the aluminum, it’s lighter and doesn’t shoot much different
@colincrosby8105 ай бұрын
Thanks you 🤙
@Just__Blaze7 ай бұрын
Can I have both
@JackJones-w5f7 ай бұрын
I have both...staccato better but 2311 has features that works for me
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
That’s the best course of action!
@AMCAL23117 ай бұрын
Compact pro is on Order........
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
We have one coming for review 💪
@AMCAL23117 ай бұрын
@HuntFishShootChannel I had to pull the trigger on it seems everyone has a Staccto...
@Philly19587 ай бұрын
Prefer no grip safety and sig mags
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
That’s how I have been feeling!
@Philly19587 ай бұрын
Staccato mags are finicky.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
That has not been our experience with G2 or G3 mags
@CR122217 ай бұрын
You only get the 5 mags with the pro model guns.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@zpaclebАй бұрын
I got the standard 5 inch and I got 5 mags... maybe I just got lucky?
@beck42185 ай бұрын
2311 Pro ported w/external extractor FTW.
@HuntFishShootChannel5 ай бұрын
That is one bad ass pistol!
@tacticalspartan77327 ай бұрын
No plates come with the staccato p
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how that keeps changing. This model came with an optic and plate for rmr for 2500.
@tacticalspartan77326 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel they changed how many mags there sending with the P as well I received 2/17 rounders. If you look at their website that’s what it says is shipping with them now. Did you buy directly from Staccato? And did they know it was for your channel?
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
@tacticalspartan7732 this was from a friend who is a police officer and bought it at a local store.
@KS7dust4 ай бұрын
I disagree. I'm gonna need you to send those to me for my own review
@HuntFishShootChannel4 ай бұрын
Roger that!
@johnbuntin71886 ай бұрын
This would of been better comparing same size pew pews.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Well unfortunately neither company makes identical sizes. Each company makes models which are similar yet off by .25” or .2” of an inches
@dustinburish79696 ай бұрын
SIG, automatic NO! Thank you! 👍
@jbsack6 ай бұрын
This is not even close. I have both. The Oraclearms is junk and I would stay away from it.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Great! Glad we all have our own opinions! Enjoy your staccato 💪
@DaveandDebe6 ай бұрын
Great comment 👍,,, real honesty is a rare thing. I looked at both of these in detail. I said to myself "This is not even close" the Oracle arms is a fake 2011, its a damn Sig P320.
@ashlandgunclub10006 ай бұрын
2311 won’t take an SRO. Been waiting on the pro for 3 frigging years so I’m done waiting on you OA Defense.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
3 years?
@zpaclebАй бұрын
He must be commenting from the future
@Michiganbreadboyz_bt89197 ай бұрын
Staccato all day long. I’ve seen like 4 people already have to send in their oracles.
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Good to know, haven’t heard that .
@zpaclebАй бұрын
May I ask for what issues? Is there something other than the accuracy issue that tactical considerations had?
@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919Ай бұрын
@@zpacleb yeah I’m not sure what exact issues but definitely part breakage I just don’t know which parts
@zpaclebАй бұрын
@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919 interesting. It's been a few months since i got mine. So far so good
@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919Ай бұрын
@@zpacleb yeah this is when they first came out so maybe they fixed the issues
@PkwyDrive135 ай бұрын
The 2311 is no comparison and completely unproven. It's nothing more than a glorified pimped 320 😂
@HuntFishShootChannel5 ай бұрын
I agree on parts of your comment but it’s no where close to a 320
@OldmanSnake6 ай бұрын
Ill take the Staccato a yday over that 2311. I wouldnt trust my life to a new type of pistol
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
That’s ok! It’s a great choice! 💪
@davidcleveland98157 ай бұрын
😊🥤🍕
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
🤩
@davidcleveland98157 ай бұрын
The Wi-Fi sucks up here in the Smokies tonight but I'm still Happy Happy Happy this is a great video 😊👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
@davidcleveland9815 that makes us very happy to hear!
@PnP-td1mt6 ай бұрын
I don’t think the OA meets the quality of staccato. The guns are NOT fit the same. P’s can be had for 2100 ish pretty easy. Why OA couldn’t make longer grips instead of that chungus magwell? Many had serious issues that OA wouldn’t fix. They are everywhere around here. The 2311 is a 1500-1600 dollar pistol.
@HuntFishShootChannel6 ай бұрын
Prices vary based off location, availability. MSRP is used to standardize. You are right they are not fit the same and different pistols. To say one is fit significantly better than the other can’t be said when you compare the two side by side. What are the issues? I’m curious what they are
@PnP-td1mt6 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannelto say the fit and finish of the 2 is even remotely close to the same tells me one doesn’t have much of a mechanical understanding and definitely no real gun smithing experience. Nothing wrong with that at all if said person can admit it. Most can’t and will go to great lengths of making crap up and contorting words to continue their arguments. You can fell the difference as soon as you pick both guns up. The difference is further shown by simply racking the slides and dry firing them. “Mr. Nobody” on KZbin goes into good detail about the issues he found with his 2311.. The guy is probably one of the most down to earth “gun-tubers” I have ever met. Not only that but posses good enough mechanical skills to find the root causes of issues and fix them himself self. Again. I don’t think the OA 2311 is a bad gun. It’s on par with some of Sig’s higher end p320’s
I sold my Staccato P for a customized Platypus that uses Glock mags, it is a better firearm in my opinion. I wouldn't get rid of my XC though. But after shooting the OA, I ordered one.
@garrettjaneski62097 ай бұрын
Both are great pistols and you cannot go wrong… however, the clear winner is the Stealth Arms Platypus with its Glock Mag compatibility, slightly less costly price tag, and infinitely many customization options right from the factory 🙌🏼🤌🏼
@1911Sabbaticals7 ай бұрын
My man!
@JackJones-w5f7 ай бұрын
I here that alot but the platypus is a 1911 double stack not a 2011 or a 2311
@HuntFishShootChannel7 ай бұрын
Those are very nice guns however, as someone who likes Glocks, I don’t know why people like Glock mags so much. I’ll take metal mags over them any day of the week.
@danielhenderson83167 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel Because unlike Glocks, Glock mags are cheap and they work. The only ones I can think of that are metal, that cheap, and reliable are Beretta 92 mags because there's so many out there.
@spocknasty7 ай бұрын
@@danielhenderson8316Magpul just dropped $35 320 mags which is pretty cheap