Who should trade for Pascal Siakam? | The Athletic NBA Show

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@nickrael5693 11 ай бұрын

I think trading pascal to the pacers is the play for both teams. But i think the pacers FO doesn't care about winning it all this year or even next year for some reason.

@abcde1097 11 ай бұрын

Only if mathurin is involved in the trade

@nickrael5693 11 ай бұрын

@@abcde1097 we won't get him, I know I would want him from the pacers, Murry from the kings, or Johnson. The former 2 being a better pick up than Mathurin. But it won't happen. So if a return for Pascal is buddy, walker, and Nesmith. It's not the best, but I think it's as good as we can get

@abcde1097 11 ай бұрын

@@nickrael5693 who is johnson?

@nickrael5693 11 ай бұрын

@@abcde1097 jaylen Johnson on the Hawks

@abcde1097 11 ай бұрын

@@nickrael5693 I don't think the hawks are in the equation since they are trying to trade murray

@Felicia-ve5vw 11 ай бұрын

Finally good offence for raptors. Pascal wants the most $$ and sadly don’t fit long term. Paying him max makes the team less flexible to add long term

@Ceegeebee23 11 ай бұрын

Pascal wants a no trade clause in his extension is that possible, would they keep him with a hometown discount for 4 years?

@IceManLikeGervin 11 ай бұрын

Yes, it is possible.

@chesterfieldjones1055 11 ай бұрын

Masai would never trade Pascal to Detroit (because of their hopeless losing culture currently). The last time Masai spoke to the media, he mentioned that they had an offer at last year's trade deadline to deal Fred, but out of respect to Fred - where FVV felt being dealt there would have put him at a disadvantage when it came to free agency - he did not deal him there. He did not mention which team was involved in that deal. It was because of this - even with the alleged locker room turmoil between him and some of the younger players where he knew it was time to move on - after Fred got that massive offer from Houston - he still gave the Raptors a chance to match the offer. That was Fred returning the respect that Masai showed him last February.

@jeffreyvalentyn6815 11 ай бұрын

If Masai actually did that that’s ridiculously stupid. Toronto couldn’t match whatever Fred was offered much less what Houston offered him, Fred knew that and Masai should’ve known that

@Xocolatben 11 ай бұрын

Look at Will Lou the Pascal hater, acting like he is the Pascal whisperer ...

@ZionGuySupreme 11 ай бұрын

I'm tryna get Buddy Hield and Mathurin

@MagnetiKKnawledge 11 ай бұрын

Man said last champion from the 2019 raptors, love ya will lou. Chris boucher though homie, put some respect on our boy!

@kwykwyk8447 11 ай бұрын

As you can see with OG, Pascal needs to go to a team with an established top 10 player, and Pascal becomes a great 2nd option Pacers look like an amazing fit and i don't see Pascal favouring larger markets either, so Indiana should be able to resign Pascal

@vancearmstrong4542 11 ай бұрын

The Pacers seem to be foolishly passing on the opportunity to add Siakam. Its possible they know that its more of a gamble as to whether he'd resign but all indications are that he'd for sure be resigning with Indiana in the event he was traded there considering the ideal basketball situation it would be next to a top player in Haliburton. Woj said never say never but they really don't want to give up Jarace Walker. Its a massive miscalculation of how good they would be if they did Brown and Walker and a pick for Siakam. Also, the odds Walker is ever as good as Siakam would shock the Pacer fan base that can't conceive of moving on from Walker. They don't realize how good Siakam is and how rare it is a given player drafted at number 8 turns out to be that good. The idea that Siakam is a rental may be overblown. Whoever trades for him can offer him more money than any other team for one thing. The messaging he is putting out about not wanting to resign with other teams if traded might just be about the fact that his incentive is to get a contract through Toronto, who can pay him more than anyone he is potentially traded to. So he doesn't want to get traded, he's just trying to get a new contract from Toronto. As soon as Toronto gives him the offer he takes it. Toronto hasn't given him the offer because they are restructuring around Barnes and want to see if the can trade him for assets that fit their team better. If they don't get such an offer, they will give Siakam the contract and he will sign it. Siakam is not an upcoming free agent because he wants to test the free agent market, its because Toronto is trying to move on from him. This means any team that wants him has to trade for him and will not be able to get him in free agency this offseason. Indiana, with their massive need for an upgrade at power forward, should see this as a miracle situation. There's a team with a surplus of 2 way power forwards looking to move on from one of them. It seems unprecedented to the Pacers that they would trade Walker because Walker hasn't played. But it would be similar to trading a player on draft day. Its not such a big deal.

@clementampong9353 11 ай бұрын

I don’t think Pascal wants to stay in Indiana. He has been relatively unknown to the NBA public because he plays in Toronto . He will want to go to a bit of a bigger market to increase his value and exposure. Indiana is a place where careers die

@vancearmstrong4542 11 ай бұрын

@@clementampong9353 Halliburton is a face of the league level talent turning 24 years old this year. And he makes everyone on his team better. There might not be any teams more appealing than Indiana. Average fans don't know about Haliburton yet but he's going to huge in the coming years, like a new Curry. Siakam's contract is the number one issue. If he gets traded to Indiana and they give him a 5 year max, there's no scenario where he doesn't sign it.

@natesportsfanatic4670 11 ай бұрын

gms dont base trades on what is best for the player lmao they base it on who can give them the most for him

@IceManLikeGervin 11 ай бұрын

Wiggins, Moody, Kuminga, Payton II, FRP for Pascal, Dick, McDaniels... The trade I want to see is Gary Trent Jr, Otto Porter Jr for Wiggins...

@imdbtruth 11 ай бұрын

I'm guessing he won't actually get traded? But who knows... If he did get traded, Dallas would be interesting, but I don't think they have the assets to get it done.

@clementampong9353 11 ай бұрын

Why do you want him traded so badly ? He is not playing anywhere other than Toronto

@cayfilms5494 11 ай бұрын

Toronto doesn’t have enough to pay him a max contract

@Matts_Ancient_Coins 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, money reasons.

@clementampong9353 11 ай бұрын

@@Matts_Ancient_Coins There is a lot of money on the NBA . Raptors at playing cheap and other players are watching . You will have mediocre team if you don’t pay these players

@Matts_Ancient_Coins 11 ай бұрын

@@clementampong9353 they’re paying RJ, and will need to pay Scottie. So they can’t pay Siakam a max or close to what he deserves

@nbasingh 11 ай бұрын

He's not worth a Max, as a raps fan, deal Spicey for some future value

@ericfranklin1802 11 ай бұрын

Funniest thing about a potential trade of Pascal to Detroit is that we’d be fucking over Siakam AND Casey who is the front office now. Would be a shame to do both of them dirty like that after what they did for the franchise

@cityhawk 11 ай бұрын

Outside of Cade, who would be worth a return from the Pistons? The only value I see from the Pistons are their draft picks. Yes the Pistons have a lot of young talent, but not good young talent.

@ryank794 11 ай бұрын

@@cityhawkAusar

@corbynpaurini9050 11 ай бұрын

the only reason pascal should get traded is the money. fit wise and basketball wise he should still be on this team so trading him away for some of these shit ass deals is so fucking dumb

@kevinscott9242 11 ай бұрын

The Nets should look at Siakam. This Nets team is a roster full of guys meant to play around Durant. Siakam is a Poor Mans KD & he'll cost Nets less than any equivalent star.

@Jayse 11 ай бұрын

Raptors ask for ClAX and cam Johnson tbh

@kevinscott9242 11 ай бұрын

@@Jayse I might do that deal if the Nets could get Siakam locked up.

@swenpintat7331 11 ай бұрын

Extend him 4 years 150 mio 🎉

@scottwalters9440 11 ай бұрын

What if okc made a godfather offer for curry …

@dvdv8197 11 ай бұрын

What would that be exactly?

@dinloud.3887 11 ай бұрын

@@dvdv8197a robust combination of picks and horse heads.

@ericnigg 11 ай бұрын

OKC would have to gut their roaster for a star like that. OKC is already way better than the current Warriors team, plus they have a really bright-looking future ahead of them. OKC is in a great spot. A young team like that needs to lose the next few seasons in the playoffs, cut their teeth, and stay together. In a few years, they could be a championship-level team with a few smaller role playing vets that can come off the bench.

@rdifuria 11 ай бұрын

They’re the only team that could really sell away enough prospects to make that work.

@trickstaricsta9357 11 ай бұрын

What do you guys think of Pascal for Jalen Green? Is it feasible or would make sense for both teams?

@balvinderbance 11 ай бұрын

not enough, incredibly inefficient player

@lotteryodds5017 11 ай бұрын

Mavs

@ryanandress1850 11 ай бұрын

The best team for Siakam is Toronto. SMH.

@BrianR. 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, great idea. Let's pay luxury tax as a lottery team for signing a declining player who can't shoot 3's and who is a third option on most teams.

@ryanandress1850 11 ай бұрын

@@BrianR. 1. It's not your money. But hey, whine and cry and worry about billionaires money. 2. He's not declining in any part of his game at all. There is no proof of that. 3. He was already the 2nd option on a championship team and the 1st option on a team that would have repeated a title if not for covid. 4. He's having is best shooting year in 5 years. 48% from 3 over his last 20 games. 5. Clueless non-Toronto fans who know nothing about the Raps.

@BrianR. 11 ай бұрын

@@ryanandress1850 Pascal will be gone by the deadline because it's the right move. You're just proving that you're clueless posting drivel like that.