Who Should You Main In The Bot Lane - LOL ADC BOT Tier List

[@Teddybearox]

some time stamps fellow laners 2:25 works but main role better 5:05 scaling mage/lane control 8:05 poke mages 10:43 let me scale pls 12:41 anti dive / engage 15:52 great for skirmish 19:26 1v9 22:08 lane control 25:10 highest ROI (return on investment i believe)

[@gentlemattman]

I haven't even watched it, but I absolutely love this series, EC! It really helps verbalize what a lot of newer or more casual players are looking for when it comes to finding champs to play. Marvelously done, as always!

[@KingChocobo]

I can't wait for the Support Video.

[@fvb7]

Manly engage supports! Leona, Nautilus, Rell, Taric, Thresh. You know what's real good at handling roaming mid-lamers cloaked in shadows? THE SUN! Adc is vegan and jg isn't there? Time to get Naughty with Nauti. Bonk and drag until the job is done. TARIC'S...ASS...only if you can avoid being distracted. Ha ha ha look at you damage back to me now back to your kda back to me. You're not rell but you could smell like rell under her hooves. I'm on a horse. YEET AND YOINK I'm a disney villain look at all this green. #Thresh noises.

[@AmitabhaAsukin]

Yes, support mains, raise your shields!

[@vigneshkuna2592]

​@@fvb7best comment 😂😂

[@drmagnusb.6461]

Sometimes KZbin recommends channels that are hidden gems. Good job, I'm discovering your videos, I find them very informative! (Especially this series)

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Glad you like them! 😊👍

[@YukkiRuiii]

Honestly think Aphelios is in ROI tier cuz early game aphelios is not bad at all he feels way better to play than zeri and vayne cuz his mechanics arent as hard as theirs and does decent damage early unlike senna without stacks the only problem with him is that the macro needed for him is way more prevalent than other adcs because having the right guns at the right time can make you easily carry and having something like Green Purple in a skirmish is basically you being a shittier caitlyn with a long range root

[@HekseriEMP]

Been looking for a list like this for months and had my hopes up after finding your previous lists. The support synergy notes are just the thing that made this from being great to being just amazing. If you don't look at each champion separately, it's really hard to find that information. AND most lists or champion guides don't even tell you what the champ excels at. Also, somehow every ADC I like to play ended up in the second or third slot for each of their types (Zeri, Xayah, Nilah, Twitch, Caitlyn, Kalista, Kai'sa). My pool is a bit too big I know.

[@kirchou]

I really don't think people understand how good these informations are. This is pure knowledge that take a lot of hours to experience and to understand yhe right way (i find lol is a game relying hard on estimation at any state of the game ). This has so much value because we learn champion Identity (and so we can understand WHY a build fits them for example) Anyway, im starting maining adc and this will be very helpful thanks a lot for your work !

[@redphantomzx]

Anti dive/engage adcs - "oh look that's my whole pool of adcs lol"

[@swordartonline6719]

lol same here 😂

[@zzzzzzdttm]

This content will probably do well, it has answers that a lot of people are looking for. Love to see the well thought out videos like this :D Hope it helps a lot of players

[@ECPlaysLoL]

That's the plan! 😊👍

[@timk2083]

In my humble experience the best Aphelios supports have strong CC and peel. As you said, the support dictates when to fight, and ideally should be aware of what gun combos Aphelios can fire for synergy. My girlfriend and I do best when she's on someone like Thresh, Rakan, Leona, or Rell.

[@guillaume926]

so undervalued video, this explain the bot lane regardless of the meta, but of your play style which won't change over the metas, if meta modifies your play style youre likely stuck

[@ntryy]

Really appreciate you putting the notes on the screen, I’m usually watching in school and it helps so much❤

[@PolarisWaters]

I absolutely love this style of formatting especially when it comes to the pick/ban phase, nice.

[@ghqebvful]

Akshan is my favorite ADC, but you get yelled at every game if you play him there. If you lose lane your team flames you for playing him where he doesn't belong, but if you win lane the enemy adc flames you for bringing a broken champ bot lane.

[@echotheredeemer]

Good list overall, but I'd definitely add Kalista and Aphelios in ROI tier. The difference between bad and good players on them is mind blowing.

[@MartairEPIC]

that is literally not what that tier means, did you even watch the video

[@realpart]

These are champions that'll give you negative ROI especially if you are new to the game, you need a champion that is simple so that you can focus on fundamentals and blind-pickable. Kalista and Aphelios should never be mained before high elo if you are genuinely serious at improving the game because they are too hard to pilot for the average player if you were mechanically gifted enough to play those champions you'd be already high elo so clearly your in a situation where you're trying to do Step 2 first.

[@echotheredeemer]

@@realpart Actually... Yeah, you have a point. Since this video is originally made for a new players, Aphelios and Kalista are definitely not the champions you want to recommend them to begin their journey with. Didn't think about it before, well said, friend.

[@realpart]

​@@echotheredeemer Yeah, this video is not too great for people trying to improve at the game. A better list would be LS' SoloQ tierlist: Currently it has MF, Karthus for Iron - Diamond and Ziggs, Caitlyn, Karthus for Diamond+. Out of those champs MF and Caitlyn are probably the best for maining and improvement.

[@KonstantinosKarantonis-g1i]

Great Stuff man

[@reptileclub8681]

I think I might pick up Kog'Maw as a secondary, I main Twitch, and their builds, and playstyles seem pretty similar

[@misa506]

Bro I am so old I remember Darius Mordekaiser bot duo lane. :D

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Xin Zhao Pantheon 😂

[@SirButterlegs]

Like the Jinx thumbnail, very cute.

[@ashtonshephard3852]

Quick notes, aurelion sol bot can usually get a kill or two at level 6

[@kaitogirldraws]

It's been some time! I was sick (still am) with covid so I couldn't get out of bed, but I'm happy to see you got a couple videos for me to watch :D Good list! Very informative ^^ Can you believe I have mastery 7 on jinx and I still dunno how her minigun passive works? lol

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Hope you're feeling better, had covid 3 times, shit sucks 🤔

[@kaitogirldraws]

@@ECPlaysLoL man, that blows in every possible way, sorry to hear that

[@Arsakkles]

​@@ECPlaysLoLI had covid one time two years ago, thought i was going to die, cant imagine having it three times

[@ahmetcvanaydn2320]

I think Tristana plays very differently than other ADC's in her category. Her playstyle changes a lot during the game though

[@adammm321]

Why does her play style change through the game?

[@ahmetcvanaydn2320]

​@@adammm321 Because she wants to play like 4th tier champion in early game but if this attempt of her becomes unsuccesful, her mid game becomes very weak and she will turn into a 6th tier champ. And at level 18, she plays like a 3rd tier ADC thanks to her insane range and attack speed. That's just my opinion though.

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Agreed, but I think in the early game she can afford to be aggressive in fights because she deals a lot of damage with the bomb and jump. So if a fight starts shes usually good to have around 👍

[@pavel4791]

In the video it's stated that Tristana outranges basically anyone which is not true, at least not in lane, where tristana has very low range and gets bullied by pretty much every champ. Once you level up you start getting some range but a lot of tristana players don't even focus on this hyperscaling playstile, they just pick hail of blades and try to snowball the hell out of their lane.

[@moresezer8680]

Comment to support your great work!

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Much appreciated, thank you! 😊

[@21hazz]

Personally I think you're sleeping a bit on draven early game, he has insane dmg with double q and barely any champ can 1v1 him as long as he doesn't drop his axes. Other than that very great video!

[@yetti07]

In the upcomjng support video can you make a caryy category like pyke or mage supports like velkoz also a nice category to see would be flex like rell that can play more then one role

[@hieukieu9160]

A great video

[@Bighomer5]

I don't like playing bot lane all that much, but this list makes me think I should give Ezreal, Kaisa, and Zeri another go. My fav ADCs followed by Senna and Xayah.

[@harshabhigyan928]

All those three champs are the most difficult ones in the game.

[@Bighomer5]

@@harshabhigyan928 That doesn't really matter, I'll never play ADC more than casually.

[@HydrixTheory]

xayah should be in 1v9 her attack speed is unmatched and her wave clear is the fastest adc besides sivir

[@Bonny_qx]

I hope see Ekko, Sylas and some off meta sup in the support video🙈

[@GamingPhilosophy30]

Personally, I think the difference between a bad jhin and a good jhin is insane, he's in roi for me, what y'all think

[@Amaling]

I’m not an ADC main so don’t take anything I say seriously but what I hear from others from scrub level to pros and commentators is that he simply can’t carry hard enough pretty often. So his usage (when not overtuned) is more niche because most team comps are designed around ADCs doing a huge portion of the damage Then again in soloq most toplaners and like half of junglers play carries so who cares play what you like

[@YukkiRuiii]

Thing is with jhin is that he does well against most classes in the game except one. The tank class cuz all adcs can output constant dps through autos against tanks jhin cant cuz of his 4 shots mechanic and personally as a person who does play jhin quite a bit i can be 12/3 and have LDRs and IE against a 4/2 Malphite who has 3 items but still feel like shit cuz yes i will kill him but it takes longer than a normal adc

[@robertaap4295]

Great series. One thing i really dissagree with is that enchanters are int with the skirmish ADC's. Thats completely not true. With Nilah healing + shielding champions are great with per passive. An enchanter allowing Draven to go ham and buff and protect him is also valuable. Zilean is one of Dravens best duo's. For Lucian the classic duo has been Lucian + Nami who is an enchanter and others like Milio work great with him too.

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Yeah, I guess it can work out, but I am from an era where Lucian Braum was the kill lane, you had Corki Leona which was insane and Draven Thresh. Most enchanters play a very passive lane in elos between Iron - Diamond and it can be pure frustration to play with. Its like picking Karthus jungle and your mid and top both go AP. It just invalidates your gameplan in 99% of games. If you are duoQ yes, I would value enchanters more. In SoloQ, I value engage a lot higher. The peak is higher with enchanters, and the average base is probably best with engage champions.

[@Sakura-xq1fl]

well, what helps to know it's the synergy between the champions, everything may look bad if it's not played well, i use to play yuumi nilah, nami lucian with my duo and it goes in pure 2v8.

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

As a Lucian main, Lucian nami is overrated. Braum is indeed the optimal pick. Would love a nautilus too. Lucian has great followup for any grab. Nami is only okay tbh, I would prefer a lux or Morgana or zyra or many others over Nami

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

​@@ECPlaysLoLare you talking back when corki did true damage on his autos? And pros would play him in Korea? Yeah I loved Leona with him

[@Sakura-xq1fl]

It could depend on your playstyle and remember it got nerfed.

[@aox3426]

awesome idea of videos gg

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Glad you like them!

[@Amaling]

Genuinely feels like Kaisa makes half the ADC roster obsolete at times

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Shes like Azir for mid lane in Pro Play, both have everything so its hard to pick others when these 2 are strong

[@pavel4791]

Is this a quote from Nemesis? i remember he talked about this issue a while ago, while also addressing k'sante as the tank who makes every other tank boring to play

[@enriquisi]

Thank you man! :D

[@iTzxZizzle]

I love these vidoes. thank you for sharing

[@JonathanSaxon]

I play ashe / jinx. Want to play Seraphina at some point. I think your write ups on those two are reasonably good.

[@Lionhart1991]

Nha man, the ones who uses Sera adc are madman... when the supp video is gonna drop, uh boy i am gonna write a romance, i played so many champs in that role, over 70

[@nathanjonns3626]

What would new Corki be in?

[@MCGlida]

cool vid but the draven info is absolutely wrong you want to cash out early as possible and usually look for lvl 1 all in's because 0 bot lanes can outdamage u 1v1 or 2v2 cheesing in a bush lvl 1 will usually get at least 1 flash if not first blood with an engage support like nautilus (source: draven main)

[@nextozzyt5844]

Very nice 👍

[@Dragonflyetc]

Where would Kindred be? What comments would you write about her?

[@omnieinar]

shes a jungler

[@Dragonflyetc]

And several champions here are mid, top and jungler, but they could as adc. So, again, where is Kindred gonna be?

[@Doneforful]

@@Dragonflyetc problem with kindred is her passive is reliant on roaming therefore she shouldnt be on a botlane tier list unless she's really overtuned she's better off not touching the role

[@najeeberryhill1437]

In other words, passable but better on their main role

[@conorgenesis7820]

i was gonna ask the same thing

[@mylynguyen6512]

What's the difference between 1v9 and " plz let me scale"? I think that zéri and vayne Can also 1v9 On the other hand kog and twitch also want to scale !!

[@Arsakkles]

The 1v9 depend more on a supp than the let me scale champion. At least in the late game

[@theorangeblaster11]

Very unpopular pick but i ve been having amazing success with pantheon adc, besides cait ( who ill ban ), my w outranged any adc range so i cant be rly bullied without punishing them easily, amazing power and roams, just very strong overall imo

[@pavellekar3703]

till you play againts an acually good adc u will rethink your life choices

[@Fortwitch123]

In iron/bronze you can make Soraka adc work. Wait till you play against humans, your panth adc won't get 20 cs by 10 mins.

[@themysteriousguy3784]

Funny seeing yasuo here and not in "does better in main role"😂

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Yeah, it is kinda funny how he can destroy some matchups botlane, he has metas in pro play as well where he is picked 😊👍

[@tomiibarrientos9440]

I love these ones! Thank you so much for the information!

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Glad you like them! 😊👍

[@Yolo-ep4my]

... but every champ should be in multiple tiers it's not like they can only do only 1 thing

[@IyaZaka]

Is Smolder 1v9 or Just let me scale category?

[@Arsakkles]

Let me scale. However there isnt a huge difference between these roles

[@shiarismail4367]

How about Kindred, does she work in bot?

[@Arsakkles]

No, her pasive makes her viable in jungle but not in bot

[@GoofwaYT]

where would you rate hwei?

[@Arsakkles]

Scaling mage or poke mage

[@tobiaspfau3876]

I dont find Tristana is

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Anti-Dive

[@Stanzbey69]

Samira and vayne are the only fun adc’s imo. Twitch when i wanna be bothersome

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Give Lucian a shot, most ADC's find him very fun 😊👍

[@InchallahCaPasse]

Hey, what's the big difference between champions in "Let me scale" and those in "1vs9" ?

[@Arsakkles]

That 1vs9 carries depend more on supps than let me scale. So in reality they are 2v8

[@najeeberryhill1437]

1 second in, how'd you know I was a kaisa and xayah main who dabbles in varus

[@joshuamonroy2779]

New corki is op as shit ngl

[@yaoigod1585]

Where is Azir?

[@ECPlaysLoL]

I think Azir would fall under the scaling mage, especially with his recent changes on the W. If you can get Lost Chapter at the first recall consistently or be able to shove the wave out, it could work. Insane gank setup with your shuffle.

[@djay9843]

14:02 impossible

[@akaomar8854]

Anyone have the credits to the art?

[@ECPlaysLoL]

wallpapers.com/jinx-arcane

[@akaomar8854]

@@ECPlaysLoL ty!

[@shaii5526]

Love you

[@onuremektar2595]

Where is nasus

[@ECPlaysLoL]

Stacking in the top lane 😂

[@Kyle-nm1kh]

The question asked in every nasus game

[@ibrahimismail5625]

Ashe is litteraly a better twitch if you like gliding instead of support ashe r bot

[@JustaChomik]

i just play sion adc

[@AeonD-z6n]

Great For Skirmishes = Gigachad

[@eryvac0074]

Then why's Yasuo there?

[@AeonD-z6n]

keep it down beta@@eryvac0074

[@lethalfurret9082]

Me when no taliyah :(

[@hpcitrine1305]

hwei apc+brand/sera

[@KinkajusRevenge]

This is good info, but I don't need you to read the text for me word for word. I can read it myself. Thanks

[@gloomish5120]

Shen everytime

[@ECPlaysLoL]

shen everywhere

[@addysaster176]

Maybe you build a website instead of reading it for us If you really want it to be a KZbin video, try personalizing scripts or impromptu for more personality in your content You can do this!

[@vrmax1919]

Better idear quit the game while you can

[@Thoemazzzz]

Im just here cuz i like tierlists somehow 🫡