Who Was The Mole In The CIA? | Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

[@alexgammino]

It’s not Hudson. He wasn’t willingly misleading Mason and Woods. He had to in order to protect David. The mole is whoever was able to get their hands on David in the first place to get him to Panama

[@rachinvocat9587]

If hudson wasnt the mole whats stopping him from planning a trap on menedez with help?

[@djcooper1061]

​@@rachinvocat9587 Which trap?

[@cannonballjenkins2757]

@@rachinvocat9587 good chance menendez had the mole force hudson to do everything, maybe gun to his head type shit.

[@rachinvocat9587]

@@cannonballjenkins2757 yeah but i feel like theres too many plot holes still hopefully this games fixes them

[@rachinvocat9587]

@@djcooper1061 there is no trap im just saying if hudson wasnt the mole than why didnt he just go into any lead room and tell mason/woods that menedez had a trap set for them and make it backfire on menedez

[@MrLaboratory762]

I don't think McKnight was the mole I don't even think he knows of change of plans in capturing Noriega for a prisoner exchange

[@mrSlippinidiot]

But where was he?

[@Trugoybwoi]

Your right the prison swap with Noriega was a CIA objective McKnight is a Navy Seal the CIA needed the help of the military on the invasion of Panama to just capture Noriega

[@resterive]

Yep, during the start of Operation False Prophet, while McKnight discusses the true plan. Mason asks McKnight if Hudson didn't already tell him the objectives. However, McKnight says Hudson didn't.

[@LuminousJay94]

​@resterive Correct McKnight tells Mason he'll be providing cover from building 12, Mason replies 'Didn't Hudson Nix that plan?' As in cancel it (Nix being an american slang phrase which comes from the German 'Nichts' or 'Nothing') McKnight responds 'If he did, he didn't tell me' Hudson kept everyone out of the loop, I felt sorry for his kids but as far as Hudson goes he was a spook who crossed the line and got what he deserved

[@Gerf.c5]

Did McKnight ever appear again?

[@leebroschaunceyandquincy3385]

Never doubted Hudson. He was always looking out for the others, even if it was shady or behind the scenes. He had no choice but to follow Menendez’s orders or let David die.

[@Ejecu-latte]

When Hudson said "I have two kids they..." Menendez taking Hudson's family as a hostage, forcing him to kidnap David and Misleading Mason and Woods

[@SuicideSeason4545]

@@Ejecu-latte true, but that’s just more shit to add to the pile. Menendez literally had every single possible thing he could use against Hudson to force him into submission, his life didn’t even matter anymore he was done for anyway.

[@Cipher_Nine]

Yes, Hudson has always been shady but always for the greater good. After all, had he not broken Mason out of mind control in BO1, the world would have ended in WW3. He was also lying at the end of Suffer With Me to save David, implying that this Mole who we were looking for kidnapped Hudson.

[@bubba418]

Yeah greater good like.hiding the fact perseus had nuclear bombs am.I right? Such a lad right?

[@Cipher_Nine]

@@bubba418 Had the information gotten out there would have been massive panic across Europe. How would that help

[@wulaeofthetengu8336]

​@@bubba418Why would he want to create a massive panic? People could've died in the ensuing chaos if he did.

[@unclelarry8842]

All that for Woods to call him a lying and traitorous snake in the end. Hudson, you deserved better 🥲

[@bubba418]

@@Cipher_Nine not to europe! But to his team?? Maybe??

[@ThisJWord]

CIA people are indeed shady, even Mason also worked in CIA but he ain’t as shady as Hudson

[@Cipher_Nine]

Actually the whole games Mason was part of the CIA. In his files, he used to be a Marine Captain. But since the first mission, Op 40, he was a CIA Agent. Even in Vietnam, he was attached to MAC-V-SOG. These guys were a group of SF from the whole U.S military (Navy, Marines, Army, Airforce) and CIA. So Mason was a CIA Paramilitary Operations Officer since 1958. You never see him as a Marine the whole game. So on paper he's not even a "Military Soldier" at all since the CIA is not part of the military, hence PARAmilitary

[@funnytrialman3112]

@@Cipher_Nine underrated comment for real,even our protagonists is morally gray

[@erentkss7805]

it wasn't hudson, we will see the mole in BO6

[@Sgt_Keegan_P.Russ2]

Yeah, old Hud's had his family in Menendez hands, he had to do all that shit, but it hasn't him to the beginning

[@erentkss7805]

@@Sgt_Keegan_P.Russ2 someone sold hudson and david to menendez

[@enclave9614]

​@@Sgt_Keegan_P.Russ2i feel bad for hudson, he's way too overhated for no reason

[@Sgt_Keegan_P.Russ2]

@@enclave9614 yea man, my brother just simply can't stand him and always when see or heard bout old Huds, all the boy do is curse him like he was the true traitor

[@dvm24]

@@enclave9614facts some really think he a villian😢

[@MahbodMD1]

If you think Hudson is the mole you haven't paid attention to the story at all.

[@channel45853]

the opposite actually, in black ops 2, he is the mole ever since the second mission of black ops 2

[@rachinvocat9587]

⁠@@channel45853some people think its not him because he was doing it to protect david but i think it is

[@KingZedusPrime2009TyrentKaiju]

Just proving his point lol, it's not Hudson at all

[@ariefmaulana4045]

Yeah Its Better To Wait BO6 So We Can Now The TRUTH LIES

[@chilleddud5625]

​@@channel45853no he isn't, that's what the plot wants you to think, but that's not the case

[@AdrielJabez]

So Kravchenko role as a villain is bigger than Dragovich and Steiner.

[@MidnightIX]

For black ops 2 yes, but for BO1 he seemed more of a 2nd man and body guard for Dragovich

[@eltonmirona7213]

But playing COD BO I felt more impact on the BO Saga with Kravchenko.

[@asm7406]

​@@eltonmirona7213Dragovich

[@eltonmirona7213]

@@asm7406 the only impacting evil thing Dragovich made was just send Mason to Vorkuta. He may have been the boss on BO1 but he's a forgettable villain.

[@guaxinim5168]

@@eltonmirona7213 dragovich literally made mason kills jfk bruh, have you even played cod?

[@MisterDragon_]

1. Hudson tried to stop Woods from interrogating Kravchenko because Woods was a lunatic with an insane amount of PTSD relating to Menendez. 2. Kravchenko had no reason to tell the truth, and Hudson had no reason to believe he was telling the truth. 3. Hes only standing there because you aren't supposed to see him once Mason gets knocked to the ground. Treyarch had no reason to animate something that players wouldn't see. 4. It would more than likely be Raul Menendez. If he wasn't in the body bag then non-corrupt PDF would've captured him. Josefina was also way closer to the grenade, and since theres a massive hole in his house, I doubt there would be a lot of her left to carry in a body bag. 5.Hudson didn't "Lie" to Woods and Mason that Menendez was dead. He 100% thought Menendez was dead at that point due to the massive hole in Menendez's compound. The only people who would've known Menendez was still alive would-be Noriega or other affiants to Menendez. 6. Hudson was a mole who was only a mole during 1989, you would know if you paid attention to the cutscene during the final part of suffer with me. The suffer with me part is the only correct thing about this video.

[@channel45853]

I don't agree with number 3, there's no reason to not animate him, especially with the budget they had and the fact that black ops players were trained by playing the first game, to look for tiny details if they didn't animate him getting taken down for your reasons, that shows laziness and a weird lack of care for a story that had a lot of it

[@MisterDragon_]

@@channel45853 do you think literally everything in a game is animated? Its not. Animating Hudson would make 0 sense since the player isn’t supposed to look at him

[@ThisIsTheMatin]

@@MisterDragon_ That's one agreement and one disagreement with your third theory Agreement : If you pay attention to one afghan soldier aiming at you when they disarm you , he's just standing and aiming at front of himself , also when you fall off on your knees , he's still aiming at front of himself and not animated to aim exactly at mason But about disagreement : Treyarch won't make its story weird and incomprehensible for just not animating one important character in one important scene in its game , i agree 99% of people maybe don't pay attention to hudson , but about %1 people see hudson won't be disarmed in one moment with mason and woods , this will make doubt in story... Also you said animating hudson to be disarmed won't make any sense , but either not animating him won't make any sense , there wouldn't any cost for them to just enable an animation for an character

[@RochRich.]

The people replying are the type to think those videos of Floyd and Debra’s apartment in GTA V are real. Devs usually don’t animate what you can’t see.

[@ThisIsTheMatin]

@@RochRich. So how can you see hudson standing in knocking off scene?

[@NeoDaxtoChief17]

Something to consider is that it doesn't make sense for Menendez to restrain and later kill Hudson if he had been supporting him as the mole up to that point. Menendez is cunning and patient enough not to let his anger compromise his strategy for revenge, and a CIA mole is a huge asset that he has no reason to kill off at that point since he wanted to play the long game to make them suffer (to break Woods physically by disabling him, and mentally by making him kill Mason then one day corrupting David). I also would have figured that Hudson, if he was the mole, would have known that Menendez never planned to kill David as he was part of the plan to make them suffer. Unless the case is that Hudson refused to go along with punishing Mason and Woods (which doesn't make sense if he's been betraying them for years), or Menendez saw it as punishment for not stopping Woods from killing Josefina. If the latter is the case, there's no explanation as to why he didn't inform Menendez of the mission that kills Josefina prior to it occurring? Idk, I think Hudson being the mole has too many things that don't line up. I definitely think we'll find out who the real mole is in the next game, but something's gonna happen that causes Hudson to forever be labeled as the traitor in history (implied by how much Woods still despises him)

[@kataxherculean7332]

it's probably Case the main character of BO6. I think we will play as the mole of CIA

[@bydlakbolszewik847]

That would be too predictable. It's probably gonna be a new character or someone that nobody would have suspected.

[@MATRetroVideoGaming]

@@bydlakbolszewik847 Yeah, Treyarch already made us play as post-brainwashed bad guy, Bell. We found out too late. Plus, 3arc loves to create plot twists with their games. World at War -- new mode made a debut, Zombies Black Ops - Playable character talks! Black Ops 2 - Multiple endings and future settings Black Ops 3 - Mind-melting and confusing campaign story in distant future Black Ops 4 - No campaign, DUH Black Ops Cold War - Bell and Hudson redacting Greenlight op. Definitely not "Case" in BO6 :3

[@Nick-oh6ms]

​@@MATRetroVideoGaming nah cold wars story was always so predictable i knew from the beginning it had something to do with bell

[@roz3115]

Probably is Mr.Black

[@british35]

@@roz3115Why would Black be in Menendez’s pocket?

[@AmirhoseinYegane-hc1ux]

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[@juzedhere1984]

i have a feeling that Hudson isn't the mole, i think that someone close to Hudson is the actual mole, Hudson and this "friend" both know that "friend" is the mole, not only that but "friend" is higher ranked than Hudson in the CIA and he also has some dirt on Hudson. Which means that Hudson is carrying all of the mole actions for this "friend", then after the mission in Panama where Hudson and Mason die, Adler gets wind of what happened and knows that they couldn't screw up that easily since they were very good at their jobs and since Adler gets the job done and can get any info at all costs, "friend" the higher CIA ranked person blames Adler for all the mole accusations and is forcing Adler into hiding. if i were to look for who this "friend of Hudson" is, i think that "friend"=Black from BOCW, he is close enough to the President and could be very close to Hudson since they look like they've worked together for many years or at least a lot of time, which means he has access to every information that it exists. it s all just a theory from the people that we already know, but it can also be someone that was never introduced to us before

[@Prisomatix]

2:18 zombies ahh walk

[@Kid_Buu魔]

Menendez was a true Zombie Mode player

[@JuriSins]

I wonder why Adler canonically isn't in BO2. I hope BO6 explains that because Adler would definitely want Menendez to be dead for what he did.

[@nomad6169]

Adler probably dies in BO6 since he's never mentioned in BO2 (and yes ik it's because he didn't exist yet)

[@JuriSins]

@@nomad6169 bo6 takes place after bo2 lmao, hes alive during bo2

[@MidnightIX]

Just like Weaver and he was in black ops 1. Maybe they were assigned somewhere else

[@roz3115]

​@@MidnightIXweaver now is in the New Zombies lore

[@ゆみす魔王]

Adler was not even a concept when BO2 released....

[@minigunkiller1072]

Maybe Kravchenko was vaguely implying to Hudson that he was blindly supporting and helping Raul Menendez but with more of a twisted sentence to keep Mason, Woods, and Hudson guessing at Menendezs game plan. Hell maybe the mole could be Russel Adler supporting Menendez for what reason he might find fit and suitable for himself.

[@jelm8514]

Maybe. But i think its because someone took advantage of the re-brainwash on Adler. If you pay attention, after Mason plays the numbers on Adler, Hudson says: We got a job to do. Exact phrase Adler used on bell to maintain control over him. So probably someone took advantage of It and nade Adler do the dirty work for him while making Adler look like the mole

[@inductivegrunt94]

Hudson has always been shifty and distant to both Woods and Mason, but I don't think he's the mole. McKnight went dark on Mason and Woods before they got to Noriega and never contacted anyone. If Hudson isn't the mole, McKnight could have captured him for Menendez and that's why Menendez has Hudson during Suffer With Me. Adler? I don't really trust at all, so either way, whether or not he's the mole, wouldn't surprise me. Not sure if there's any evidence of him being a mole, he's just very distant from everyone else, focused on his own things. But that could be a cover for him being the mole. I'm not exactly sure who's the mole, but McKnight is who I'm guessing most likely is.

[@Necfreon]

There’s actual basis in the cod mobile comics he actually did betray everyone been a while sense I saw that so I don’t know the exact context but let’s just say it’s on the same cliff or at the very least it’s supposed to be like the cliff alder shoots bell or something like that

[@YoSauceBrazyy]

I feel like they would’ve stretched out McKnights character more or at least gave Easter eggs/references to him being a mole or shady person. I think his job in that mission was to support mason and woods for their original goal in capturing Noriega and once they did that that’s when he vanished. It’s the same thing how there wasn’t any other navy seal to help mason and woods during the part of the mission when they were captured.

[@genghiskhan2056]

I don't think it was McKnight either, you could briefly see him on top of a building providing cover fire for you, that leaves the window for him helping Menendez very short if not impossible, he also didn't know about Hudson changing plans. He probably just got assigned elsewhere and had problems with comms like everybody else.

[@inductivegrunt94]

@@genghiskhan2056 Makes sense. Who knows, it might not be any of them and the real mole will be introduced in BO6.

[@alphacodyt]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@channel45853]

If it was McKnight, then why wouldn't Raul utilize the number sequences to get Mason to hid dirty work for him?

[@british35]

That shit went down with the Rusalka

[@Trugoybwoi]

@@british35there’s more than 1 station BO1 Hudson and weaver destroyed one in mount yamantau Cold War showed it with season five intro when Kitsune used an improved Dragovich numbers brainwashing broadcast on the soldiers at NATO Echelon station west Germany when Woods and Colton with a unit were sent there to help evacuate workers and secure the station from Perseus’ forces

[@british35]

@@Trugoybwoi And tell me how someone in charge of a drug dealing cartel that’s on a CIA watchlist would get to West Berlin alive

[@Trugoybwoi]

@@british35 nah im adding on to what @channel45853 said there was more than 1 broadcast station and McKnight knows about Mason’s brainwashing so if McKnight was the mole he would have told that info to Menendez to use that in a sort of way. Also you said “That shit went down with the Rusalka ☝️🤓” you do know there was more than 1 broadcast station right? It literally tells you during BO1 when Hudson is trying to get mason up to speed on the situation and mentioning the map he discovered in yamantau showing sleeper agents across the states there could have been other broadcast stations but they couldn’t do anything since Dragovich died to mason so he couldn’t give any orders to the other stations so it wouldn’t be too far fetched to say there’s a broadcast station in Panama

[@Trugoybwoi]

@@british35 since Dragovich had some influence around the Caribbean and Latin America especially since irl wise during the 60s communism had a big influence on those countries since most of the people living there at the time were in poverty while the rich and powerful lived in luxury

[@synthvvavve191]

I love how now it's Harrow from bo6 someone we never met till now but as Kravchenko said "he's got people in the cia." It could be anyone.. theory: Pantheon is anyone who wants to go rogue/ bribed. For the sake of this video I say Mcknight was a mole. Hudson was basically a hostage to Menendez, so he had to give the wrong orders if he wanted to live. He outlived his usefulness when he silended Kravchenko, and there was too much heat, so McKnight was a contact and sold everyone out in Panama.

[@Jester4460]

Hudson is too much of a Tinman to be a mole

[@Trugoybwoi]

Fr dude that’s what gets me mad when people say “he’s the mole ☝️🤓” like bro even Mason said “Hudson? * hm 😏* guys a fucking icecube that’s what I like about the bastard” literally said “bro too uptight to do shit on my momma he a bitch” 💀

[@jonnyrh]

Hudson also kept operation greenlight a secret from Adler, Woods, Mason, and Bell in cold war.

[@_noah_.7387]

McKnight just up and vanished from that mission. Kinda suspicious…

[@k9strike931]

1:58 Wasn't that only done so that Woods wouldn't kill him?

[@Chief-CO]

2:52 Hudson that "That's HIM, in the body bag". He did lie.

[@polybius8571]

Who’s to say he wasn’t also tricked?

[@MidnightIX]

@@polybius8571no fr and at 2:36 he’s barely getting up from the explosion. They could had easily tricked Hudson

[@british35]

There’s no way you see a body bag and assume the person inside is still alive Edit: Double negative removed

[@4DAKINGBEETLE]

Hudson was kidnapped so he was forced to be a mole against his own will. This means the mole kidnapped David and Hudson so it’s not Hudson

[@mtrx765]

What about that CIA agent that showed up with Hudson in Alaska to recruit mason to save woods?

[@british35]

That was Oliver North iirc. He couldn’t be the mole in the an organisation ensuring America’s dominance

[@Trugoybwoi]

That’s what I was saying cause he was the only other person who heard about David staying with Hudson’s wife and kids so it would make sense he would be the mole since he captured David and potentially held Jenny and his kids hostage if he didn’t cooperate

[@LordGiga-fu3re]

That’s one angry wife.

[@neofulcrum5013]

It’s probably the new director that’s disavowed Woods, Adler and the other rogue operators

[@tristanlederer2286]

If hudson was the mole why would he willingly give his life for woods and david

[@Trugoybwoi]

Ngl I don’t think he’s the mole but I think the reason why he chose to die is when he said “woods. I..can’t I have 3 kids.. they-“ * shotgun cocked * “OK ME” seems morbid but maybe in Hudson’s mind since David stayed with his wife and kids the moles (notice it’s not mole cause Kravchenko said there’s tons of them not just one) who kidnapped him could have potentially killed his wife and kids since Raul told Hudson “BECAUSE YOU MUST SUFFER AS I HAVE SUFFERED” obv Raul couldn’t do much to woods since he ran away from home as a child so much of his early life he was alone with no friends or family so his “suffering” is watching those close to him die

[@robertharrison5679]

To protect them and atone for what he did, if it was him.

[@Ladies_man217x]

It’s actually crazy we never got a confirmed answer to this. So many unanswered questions in BO1 and BO2

[@SeriousApache]

Well technically Hudson told the truth when he said Menendez was in the body bag. Just not Raul...

[@Not_really_a_redhead_irl]

You never explained why it could be Adler from Cold War. I'm pretty sure the whole idea of Adler's character didn't come about till Black Ops Cold War came out.

[@Anagh1701]

Hudson wasn't a mole. His family and David were both in the hands of Menendes. He chose to be a husband and father first. I'm also pretty sure that he told Alex what was going on and Alex came along quietly to save his son. The reason he decided that he would sacrifice himself was because he knew that if he lived, himself and his family would be ruined and he would be revealed as the "mole" that chose his family over the CIA. With Woods being alive, he knew that things could be set right in the future

[@alphacodyt]

Excellent attention to details!

[@british35]

@@Anagh1701 As much as Woods and Hudson used to butt heads, there was gonna be some mutual respect

[@trendonebegaye1007]

There was no mole in any of the black ops games, because Raul menendez has telepathy or psychic powers

[@theLTwJ]

I’ve played the first mission of bo6 and the supposed mole was already mentioned, let’s see how that plays out

[@-Jvr_.]

Greetings from México,keep posting great videos👍🇲🇽

[@alphacodyt]

Thank you, sure!

[@Yurgan4432]

2:36 you can see Hudson getting up off the ground. Someone told Hudson that he was in the body bag. So Hudson didn’t lie about that

[@Panchho]

They say it was hudson. But since it was unwillingly he wasnt really a mole maybe bo6 wil reveal the true mole in the cia

[@kentuckyfriedchildren5385]

I don't think the mole was any of the characters shown in game, I think it's more of an off screen plot point

[@guitarpicplayer465]

Hudson In Cold War, Hudson was aware of the stolen nukes- but never told anyone.

[@jefferyharambe5067]

tbf all the returning characters in Cold War is way different than the og Black Ops

[@MidnightIX]

@@jefferyharambe5067and CIA people always keep secrets from they’re own people. It doesn’t surprise me why Hudson never said anything about it

[@british35]

Hudson was keeping classified information classified. Of course he wouldn’t tell the CIA’s muscle anything he or his superior would deem unnecessary. He could’ve fought and fought after Mason and the boys confronted him, but instead he played it cool and explains everything.

[@uwingy669]

2:45 no, although your arguement says the sister is also a menendez, Hudson did say “him”, so he was actually lying

[@spoonygod]

the panamanian army was also secretly working for menendez they mightve helped him escape and placed a fake body bag to trick them

[@sypa3687]

When bo2 was the newest black ops hudson was the mole. Now that we have cold war and bo6 is coming lore probably will be changed.

[@wizzzer1337]

Maybe it was Mason and Menendez knew how to reprogram him from Kravchenk. Menendez did get his hands on Mason after all when Woods shot him.

[@kirilovkobracars2477]

I have never heard this, but it is definitely interesting mate!

[@jospehcahill7320]

I’ve always wondered who the mole was and I’m glad they’re finally exploring it with BO6. It really took them long enough.

[@djparalyze2655]

It was Adler, this is exactly something he would do if it served some other interest of his. Traded some “assets” in exchange for help/info from Menendez. Maybe thats why he’s locked up during that BO6 mission we saw, also maybe why Woods didnt say anything in that gameplay trailer. He had to help free the man who got his best friend killed

[@Gerf.c5]

I bet a couple bucks on McKnight. After his introduction in that mission we never saw or heard from him again.

[@LuminousJay94]

People are going crazy saying it could be Adler Etc 😂 I mean to each their own but what some don't know or think about is that computer you can access at the game menu of BO1, I recently went through every email on the servers that are on that computer and you find some crazy s**t. Basically there were people at the C.I.A that didn't want Mason working there (Weaver and some others) but Dragovich having brainwashed Mason did want him there obviosuly to kill J.F.K. There are also recordings you can listen to of Dragovich referring to 'Lancer' (JFKS' codename) as too young for office and too idealistic for some unknown plan. Now I won't go into every email, but long story short Mason was not properly cleared for duty, a C.I.A analyst, Ryan Jackson had emails to and from Richard Kain stating he was to clear Mason for duty no matter what and that this had come as a direct request from the president, which was true, however JFK asked for Mason personally because he was told Mason was 'the best we have, anywhere' There is also mail in Kains inbox where he is asked by his superior about unsanctioned operations being carried out and that they are to cease immediately. This Richard Kain was planning and running Black Operations without his superiors knowledge.

[@LuminousJay94]

What's also weird is that in the BO1 mission USDD, where you go and meet JFK at the Pentagon, when you reach the war room or situation room, Mason has a flash and sees a number sequence, then strangely McNamara leans in and says 'Not yet' after Hudson mentions the situation room is 'Overwhelming isn't it'. For me all this likely points to there being perhaps 1 mole in the C.I.A Richard Kain using his position and others ulterior motives to put Mason close to the president and kill him. If you can I advise trying to get on to that BO1 computer to draw your own conclusions but It certainly goes deeper than just the main operators in the series.

[@geteheh3h3636]

I think his existence is to just flesh out the universe, Woods' and Mason's relationship with other soldiers outside the main plot. It prevents the story from having too strict of a "every single scene has to progress the story" presentation, gives the storytelling more breathing room.

[@ArthurCallahanSolos]

Because he probably retired after the Panama mission.

[@tylertimmons1540]

If Mason wouldn’t have pushed woods up against the side of the wall when he was trying to kill Menendez, all of this wouldn’t have happened

[@Trugoybwoi]

They didn’t want him dead tho cause if they captured him they would’ve interrogated him and question him about what Kravchenko said to them about moles in the CIA so they can get rid of them honestly could have been prevented if Woods didn’t crash out

[@gersonencarnacion3744]

Actually if Masons shot landed in the head instead of the eye of menendez this wouldnt have happened.

[@roachthatshoots224]

Maybe it maybe adler because after he was brainwashed by stich and got "de brainwashed" by hudson and the team something was off but BO6 will fill everything up

[@british35]

Psychological torture changes people

[@castratiikr0n]

just a side tangent....... does anyone else remember in the mission where you play as menendez, do you remember a picture of his sister popping up on the side and then the picture distorts to how he saw her face after the grenade or is that just me and my mandela effect

[@travismeta3727]

Maybe Noriega is the CIA informant who is the Mole

[@Minma_1]

I don’t think the mole is McKnight or Hudson, we got so little of McKnight that it wouldn’t make sense for him, Hudson was protecting David so he technically ain’t a mole, I could maybe see Adler do a Shepherd and help both sides to make himself look like the hero, but I doubt it too

[@arilution]

ever since i replayed bo2 recently i noticed they mentioned a mole, which is exactly what they were talking about in bo6. i was told it referred to hudson but my money’s on adler. it’d be a perfect segue way

[@mr.hungee9624]

In BO6 it shows up, but I couldn't even get a bigger picture on his face

[@Rhb989]

Well funny enough wasn’t Hudson Mason’s NEW handler meaning there was someone previously?

[@syalla881]

Who was the mole ? Definitely General Shepherd. He's -. Sorry wrong game 😅🙏🏻🙈

[@JMinasian]

A hot take is that it could possibly be either Terence Brooks or Bruce Harris from Black ops 1. It would be incredibly interesting if it were Harris especially because he was in the pawn takes pawn teaser for Cold War.

[@Trugoybwoi]

Couldn’t be Harris he’s close friends with Mason and woods since he’s a friend of bowman and he didn’t get back into action he went into hiding after his “death” so he can’t be the CIA mole since the CIA still sees him as KIA from Hudson’s report so it wouldn’t make sense for him to come back to them

[@jelm8514]

It wouldnt make sense that Activition's releasing a game where the plot Is about to uncover a mole and that mole to be someone (hudson) whose fate we already know and its already dead by the timeline of the game. I always thought that Hudson got screwed over by the mole too. Also, its probably someone who also knew how to get advantage of the re-brainwash on Adler made by Hudson, Mason and Woods before the mission where Adler kills stitch

[@omaru69]

Theres more than one mole

[@siddown5520]

The mole was Weaver from BO1. He never wanted Mason to escape the interrogation room and he was also russian. I think its him

[@ArthurCallahanSolos]

Because he thought Mason was a lost cause, from the brainwashing.

[@AwakenedCherokee6157]

I think it's McKnight from Black Ops 2 Personally

[@LuminousJay94]

Is it just me that thinks it's Richard Kain, McNamara and the likes of those guys that are the mole/Moles? Kravchenko says 'He even has people in the C.I.A' he didn't necessarily mean there was just one mole embedded and I mean that computer you can access in the B01 game menu with everyones users and different servers, there are a ton of shady emails from Kain telling people to have Mason psychologically cleared for field duty despite being clearly unfit for it (Though he is still the right man for the job given his position) Ryan Jackson who was a C.I.A Analyst had mails with the doctor that was seeing Alex Mason, after Mason had sent her mail threatening possible suicide she stressed to Jackson how bad of an idea she really thought clearing Mason was, however she agreed and did so after being pushed down on from above. Ryan Jackson was also told by Richard Kain to not assist Gregori Weaver in the search for a long lost relative (I believe it was his sister) Weaver had mailed Ryan Jackson for assistance with tracking her down but when Jackson relayed this request to Richard Kain, Kain quite literally instructed Jackson to do whatever he could to shut Weaver up and leave it alone. There are also recordings from a meeting held at some point that Dragovich was attending, in the recording Dragovich refers to JFK by his code name 'Lancer' stating 'Lancer is too young' meaning he can pose a problem idealistically in the future. Basically after brainwashing Mason, Dragovich needed a way to get him close to JFK, and the mission USDD where we meet JFK in the Pentagon gave him just that, remember when Mason, Hudson and McNamara get to the situation room and Hudson says 'Overwhelming isn't it?' Mason has a flash and sees a number sequence at which point McNamara leans in and says 'Not yet' now I don't know about everyone else but that seems to me like McNamara is subliminally telling Mason to be patient, that he will be within reach of JFK soon, because McNamara surely can't be replying to Hudson when he says the overwhelming line as it makes no sense. Those mail and extras really blew my mind when I got through them all.

[@starset4life175]

I feel like I’m the only one who trusts Adler more than Hudson

[@Crispy_DAWG]

You know I just realized something. Wouldn’t a frag not be able to blow up a structure to that degree? I get it killing Josefina (or whatever her name is), but blowing up that section makes no sense right?

[@ariefmaulana4045]

Better To Wait BO6 For This All So We Can Now Who Is The Real Mole

[@ryan_fsk]

True , how did hudson get caught,even if menendez killed david ,hudsonn should have jumped in the chair and try to break the wooden chair like jackie chan did

[@ArthurCallahanSolos]

Hudson didn't want David to die? He knew that Menendez would kill him if he disobeyed an order, and Mason would kill him if he learned that he got his son killed.

[@forxce1939]

Pretty sure its mcknight because he is in one mission in all of bo2 which they should have decided to cut the mission from the game if it wasnt important

[@user-et7bj9wn5s]

Maybe just a random unknown CIA mole, so that treyarch make us keep questioning it LOL. maybe lets just wait the answer on BO6

[@Zachiesgaminghub]

They gonna add adler in to the mix as the mole

[@kirby4083]

Honestly McKnight is a long stretch but Hudson is probably our best candidate. The BO2 campaign had a strong attitude towards Hudson being out of character . Maybe he was the Mole but when Raul’s sister was killed he used Hudson to get to Mason and woods. We know for a fact that Hudson offered Mason the option to let David stay with his wife . Hudson knew if he didn’t cooperate this last time that it would’ve costed him his family’s life . Hudson knew he was dead anyway so gave up his life to save David.

[@ElijahAnguiano]

I guess Hudson just didn’t want to get beaten😂😂😂

[@Wallbangedbyme]

I never realsied hudson doesnt get choken out after woods exacutes kravchenko i dont believe mc knight or hudson are the mole

[@TheRealRealMClovin]

Well we do know now in black ops 2 who the mole was and it's just a new character.

[@IsNowSpectating]

First thought was adler but tbh I don't think he would let someone like Menendez get one over him without sacrificing something to gain an advantage over him.

[@bluephoenix3865]

Well, we know now it wasn’t Adler so my guess it had been McKnight or will have to wait for the other black ops game to come out next year because the way I see it they might be making a prequel about what happened to Mason

[@CHAOS_INSURGENT_0420]

Also, if you play the mission suffer with me, Hudson’s response seems very generic every time you talk with him meaning you were never talking to Hudson. It was a pre-recorded audio of his voice, making basic responses. Hear the same responses earlier in the game

[@hayleywilliams8750]

I think hudson beacuse every step we're taking into betrayal Hudson leads us their e.g mason's "death" and when menendez captured us Hudson offers to do it although he's the only one with a family (mason was aking dead)

[@AdrielJabez]

Weaver is the mole in CIA.

[@TyJohnson1997]

Nahh that would be very interesting

[@reulink7118]

Weaver was in jail at this time.

[@british35]

Weaver himself was loyal to Hudson. He wouldn’t

[@justineallandevelos6491]

​@@british35 also the mere fact that he lost a eye while being interrogated in the Soyuz rocket site also adds to his loyalty

[@british35]

@@justineallandevelos6491Plus he fucked off to South Africa with Mason and Hudson. He never ratted on them there

[@zeafrz3186]

Someone we know but we don’t remember his name

[@seanbotti5385]

Jane Harrow was the mole

[@marcuscastro1727]

I hope we find out who the mole was in bo6

[@Tiffani-if9rq]

Hudson definitely isn’t the mole, Menendez literally killed him after he gave himself up to save woods AND david, he led mason out to die to protect his son. But i personally think that it wasn’t hudson’s call to make. Mason would have probably thought differently and try to come up with a plan to save his son or maybe even sacrifice his son to keep the mission going to stop Menendez. Hudson made a choice, not really the wrong choice, but also not a good one, it wasn’t his call to make.

[@Idk-wf2gu]

What if hudson was threatened by mole in cia after save woods from Mendez in angloa - just my theory

[@sonic984]

It was Adler or Bell

[@RonaldAsks]

Now that I think about it.... The mole must have made their way to david before they could help menendez use Hudson. This means the mole had to have easy acces to david. Maybe it was Jenny? Hudson mentioned her, likely as a babysitter, when he said she'll look after david. It's likely that she could have been the CIA mole. But that's just a theory!

[@franciskalala3110]

Jenny is Hudson's wife

[@british35]

@@franciskalala3110Jenny wouldn’t

[@Trugoybwoi]

Nah it had to be a close friend of Hudson and Mason who knew about David Staying with Jenny Can’t be woods cause obv it can’t be Weaver he was in Jail not a lot of people mention him I don’t think it’s Harris (dude who “died” in BO1 during the mountain mission) cause CW Bowman’s son captures him and he tells his son that he’s a friend of his so it could also mean he’s a friend of Mason and Hudson

[@Trugoybwoi]

It has to be someone who’s a tech geek remember bo1 you can see the emails the guys send each other maybe one of them had to do with Mason and Hudson talk about Jenny watching David since she had “done it before” so maybe their msgs got skimmed and that’s how they found where he’s at

[@RonaldAsks]

@@franciskalala3110 I had no clue lol. I guess you learn something new every day

[@ayshanahan7689]

Adler in black ops 6 it’s told by Marshall maybe

[@russellnew8016]

I don't think Hudson is the mole because he did not betray on purpose. I don't know about McKnight but I think it's Adler.

[@resterive]

Anyone think Ryan Jackson from Black Ops Declassified could be a suspect as the CIA mole?

[@davidjacobs7465]

Noriega did work for or with the CIA in the 1950's and was actually valued as the best intelligence source... I'm just saying.

[@n3stl0rd]

Why is no one considering it could be someone related to Salazar?

[@x0nix]

I doubt adler is the mole since hes gonna b main character of bo6 unless he only acts as a mole when brainwashing kicks in

[@Trugoybwoi]

Adler isn’t the main character it’s gonna be the “redcliff” or whatever the dudes name is

[@x0nix]

@@Trugoybwoi o I really thought it was him bc the trailer

[@Trugoybwoi]

@@x0nix I mean I might be wrong they could pull a bo2 on their “past/future missions but instead they do a Adler/Redcliff missions but we will see when the game comes out

[@onur97able]

Tagline is hunted from within forced to go rouge Adler is not the mole im guessing by mid point we gonna catch adler and he's gonna do a exposition dump and drop the twist we all already know from start adler aint the mole

[@MrMorvig]

Maybe its mason? The russian fucked him up with the numbers. Maybe he did smt more to him to.

[@glooboi2140]

1000% Hudson in bo2 but including the new games it could also be McKnight or Adler

[@Trugoybwoi]

Can’t be Hudson he was only a “mole” against his will for that one mission in order to protect David

[@DanielSolorzano_O2]

W video

[@TheMajorMan]

I don't think Hudson or Adler are the mole, and McKnight was barely even a dude in the story. So I'm going to sign two of them off. Adler is getting a lot of focus in the BO6 Trailers so they might lean toward him being the mole but then again, why? The little embers of the numbers making him really subservient to Menendez and other Anti-American sentiments?

[@plissken94th57]

It’s obvious the mole is Adler

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

New character

[@sida.artyom]

I guess Adler is the Mole

[@viceadmiralq90]

Jane harrow is the mole.

[@Yourbossguy69]

It's adler though , probably menendez brainwashed him and used him as a dog..