Who Will be The Flash of the DCU?

[@Ddash97865]

As a Barry fan, I must admit it is Wally's time in the spotlight. Wally has so much potential in this universe, and considering that Dick Grayson is probably Nightwing at this point in time, it makes sense for Wally to be the Flash. Great video!

[@NickHippo13]

Thanks man! And yeah, that’s what I’m thinking too

[@ZatannaFan94]

I agree but I feel we just got a shitty barry from zack snyder and ezra miller, they should have written better and then have flash be replaced with wally

[@garrisonmoss]

I quite frankly disagree Barry should have a proper story in a proper DC Universe, as a fan of the show, I think they did barry perfectly, but we need him in a proper universe.

[@grimes5292]

@@garrisonmosshalf of Barry qualities from the flash tv show is from Wally

[@garrisonmoss]

@ not rlly

[@spooky6946]

Great video. Personally I think Barry should start out as the main Flash of the DCU for a while. Mostly because of the general audience. Most people know Barry as being The Flash, so it would be weird for them to see his sidekick become the main flash at the start. However, we could still make Wally The Flash along side Barry, giving him a story where he is growing out of the Kid Flash role, and being partners with Barry instead of a sidekick. Also in 2:23 Wallace is now called Ace West

[@trevturp6891]

They should simply pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@Derp-rz1nn]

They named the flash the same thing as Batman’s dog 💀💀

[@Nikich133]

General audiences does not know what Flash's name is. If anything, most people know Flash from the animated Justice League show, where it was Wally

[@spooky6946]

@@Nikich133 I disagree. Most of the people I know aren't Flash fans, but they think Barry is The Flash. Also those reaction KZbinrs who are new to DC, know The Flash from either the 2014 TV show, Young Justice or the DCAMU

[@trevturp6891]

@@Derp-rz1nn Correction, they named Wallace West the same thing as Batman's dog.

[@jaehurd3524]

Wally is absolutely my favorite Flash, but I'd like us to start with Barry in a movie with himself and then transition to Wally in a sequel

[@trevturp6891]

Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@totalflashaddict]

Lets go bro. I think the same. Ive just started reading the Flash and I'm on The Flash by Mark Waid Book Three. I was blown away by born to run and the return of Barry Allen. And I've heard many people (you included) say that his run was phenomenal. So hopefully I enjoy the rest!

[@NickHippo13]

Judging by your username and the fact you loved the first arcs, I can almost guarantee you will love the rest of it

[@trevturp6891]

Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@BlackClaw2]

In all fairness in the comics they differentiate Wally and Wallace by calling the latter “Ace”.

[@NickHippo13]

I would pin this if I could (not verified) thanks for correction

[@doctor1431]

Honestly I’d love an Insomniac Peter/Miles dynamic for Barry and Wally. Have Barry be first and then have Wally come in to be Kid Flash and then ascend later. Then Wally could shine as the Flash in his own movies or something and have Barry be on the league and help him as a mentor. Or maybe he looses his powers later or something? I don’t know I’d just love to see them together rather than kill Barry off. Great Vid!

[@trevturp6891]

No. They should just pull a Nightwing and give Wally West his own superhero name.

[@andersf5521]

I think you're doing an excellent job, young man. My first ever job was working at a comic book store in 1988. I definitely have the Flash #1 from 1990. I need to revisit it. I think Wally should be the Flash of this universe. Maybe use Barry in flashbacks showing how he mentored Wally, but have Barry in the present be gone. Idk. I just want them to get the characterization right for whichever one they go with. I thought Ezra's version was too goofy.

[@NickHippo13]

That’s so cool! Any recommendations from that time period (late 80s)?

[@trevturp6891]

No. Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should simply pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@trevturp6891]

No. Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@roman4829]

Great video man. I personally think that we should be introduced to the flash through Barry. Then maybe at some point (maybe in the first Justice League movie), they kill him off (or make him disappear) and make Wally grow into the flash. I feel that part of the charm of Wally, is seeing him grow into the role of The Flash, and escape Barry’s shadow.

[@NickHippo13]

@@roman4829 fair enough. His development from teen titans into waids flash is pretty awesome to watch, I can’t deny that.

[@roman4829]

@ agreed. I could see them making a classic Teen Titans animated show, with the original team, set in the DCU

[@trevturp6891]

No, Wally West shouldn't grow into The Flash. They should simply pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@trevturp6891]

Wally West won't ever escape Barry Allen's shadow as long as he is The Flash.

[@Clankem]

@@trevturp6891flash is a mantle that gets passed down. Giving him a new name is pointless. Comic fans absolutely love Wally. And he does perfectly fine in the comics as the main flash. He’s already escaped his shadow, as a Barry fan, they often take from Wally’s character traits to give to Barry.

[@Boi853_]

Fantastic video. Imo, I think giving Barry a movie or two, and at least one turn on the justice league, then you can introduce Wally as the main Flash for the long run. I think that’s the best way to get both involved personally.

[@trevturp6891]

No. Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@wehaveourhandsfull]

great video man!! love your channel, keep it up!

[@Brosati68]

Nah you hit the nail on the head bro. I love having Wally be the young flash with Barry missing. Whatever character they choose though I really need a good costume.. especially if we do get both together at some point we need a clear difference because in the comics that gets confusing

[@NickHippo13]

Agreed, I honestly like Wally with the silver accents like his rebirth suit

[@trevturp6891]

No. We can't have both Barry Allen and Wally West share the mantle of The Flash in The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing in The DCU and give Wally West his own superhero title.

[@trevturp6891]

@@NickHippo13 Me too. But he needs to get his own superhero title and a new superhero suit with googles and a cape in The DCU.

[@Brosati68]

@@trevturp6891 a cape on a flash? No thank you haaha I think rebirth Wally is perfect. He can have his hair out with the dark red suit and Barry can be normal

[@BigT_Art]

Just scrolling through KZbin and found your channel, I’m already in love with your work. Keep up the great work. Hope you remember me in the future. I see big things in your future.

[@NickHippo13]

I will remember! I’m just a dude behind the camera lol, nothing will elevate me beyond that. I understand if I go anywhere it’s because of you guys.

[@infolegocom-vx5hb]

I like your videos' subjects, they are well argued too. Nice job!

[@orekeog]

Great video, I got the same exact thought down to the return of Barry Allen lol. I think what helps Wally chances is that he’s been the main flash in the comics again since 2021, with Barry even retiring officially recently

[@orekeog]

Also if dick is already nightwing in this universe it probably wouldn’t make the most sense for Wally to still be kid flash imo

[@Kalel2.0]

I dont think hes gonna remain retired for that long I mean it's a common trope for Speedsters to lose their powers before it eventually comes back

[@orekeog]

@@Kalel2.0 oh of course it’s comics and nothing last forever lol, I mostly mentioned to just show how dc is really pushing Wally as the main flash right now

[@Kalel2.0]

@@orekeog I agree with that for sure just wish they'd come up with a better solution that doesnt involve dempowering and benching Barry😂

[@trevturp6891]

Barry Allen retiring as The Flash probably won't last long.

[@erkscollectibles]

Great idea with having Barry Allen as missing in the DCU. It would have us fans speculating and excited to see what happens next, plus it gives Wally some time to shine. I love Barry Allen Flash, but it's time for Wally to get the spotlight.

[@trevturp6891]

Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@der_Herrscher_der_Welt]

i hope they'll do both. As someone who grew up with Young Justice, i always loved the Mentor apprentice dynamic they had in that show. I also think they should give Wally the mask that doesnt cover his hair, just because i always loved that look way more than the full mask, and it also makes him more recognizable than with the full head flash mask

[@trevturp6891]

No. We can't have both Barry Allen and Wally West share the mantle of The Flash in The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing in The DCU and give Wally West his own superhero title.

[@kaseruiz2575]

Love your content! Not really a big fan of DC but you have me excited for their future

[@NickHippo13]

Preciate you! I’m definitely bias and they haven’t had the best history, so sorry if I lead you in the wrong direction lol

[@Nikich133]

I can die a happy man if I ever see Barry hufging Wally saying "how could I ever forget you?"

[@TeeLad]

ive always been a big dc fan but never really dived into the comics heavily (i know i wasnt really a fan then) but after reading a alot of comics ive changed my mind from Barry to Wally, still love Barry but I think wally would slot beautifully into this DCU plus the idea of Barry is missing is great as well. A big reason I would prefer Wally is because I think Hunter is a better Zoom and Eobard, Hunters story would transition nicely to the big screen as a villain with a sad backstory, anyway just found your channel and loving ur content

[@cookiemonsteryummyyumz]

After watching the animated movies + The CW, I think bringing in Wally will be awesome! And your pitch for a flash movie sounds really good, would be so sick if that becomes a movie

[@rajivrojas6229]

Great insights fam keep going

[@user-zq3bz8io5n]

I’m loved grant gustins interation of flash, it made me get into comics. We need Barry Allen, a proper Barry Allen not quirky childish version that Ezra miller was. Love the channel btw

[@trevturp6891]

And we need Wally West to get his own superhero title and a new superhero suit with googles and a cape in The DCU.

[@NolanFalk-ez9re]

If they do the return of the flash storyline, they should have grant gustin play thawne so people see him as the flash before he reveals he’s the villain

[@NickHippo13]

That’s a cool idea

[@Kalel2.0]

Honestly I'd wanna have Grant play Jay Garrick it would be fun to continue the tradition of past Flash actors passing the torch and it would give Grant a great spot and God knows he deserves great writing

[@NolanFalk-ez9re]

@@Kalel2.0 that would be cool too, I just want him on the big screen no matter who he plays

[@xabdoux8915]

Damn, just got ur two dc videos suggested and they were amazing, i went to ur channel to watch more just to find out u only started 8 days ago with 200 subs only😂 expecting big things from u bro good luck❤

[@NickHippo13]

Thank you!! And honestly, 200 is way more than I thought I’d have at this point. It’s been crazy to see the channel grow as quickly as it has so far

[@xabdoux8915]

@@NickHippo13congrats on the 300😂🎉

[@NickHippo13]

@@xabdoux8915 thanks 🤣 tryna hit 1k before year ends

[@MKL3165]

And your idea would be a amazing idea for a flash solo film with a horror film feel to it. Wally in high school dealing with this story would be dope as hell. Like andrew Garfield spider man. James Gunn needs u in the room with the director for the movie.

[@NickHippo13]

@@MKL3165 that’s the dream haha

[@willchristensen8991]

Had no idea there was a Wallace and a Wally west, that’s the most comic book thing ever, but now I’m hyped for a new flash

[@olaoluwapowilliams5169]

Barry should be the main Flash because that is a potential for Wally to be Kid Flash in the DCU version of Teen Titans. And I meant a proper Wally West as Kid Flash not in the way The CW did it with Wallace West.

[@UniverseChronology]

Dick is already an adult in this universe and they are close friends in the comics. I see no reason to remove that just so we can see Wally as Kid Flash.

[@SuperladCK94]

​@@UniverseChronology maybe have it be like a before he decides to be Flash treat him and Garth as Supergirl/Batgirl (Babs) scenarios as seen in early Post-Crisis and during the crisis...but have it be that soon one of them needs to choose whether or not to go their own path or step into Daddy's Boots.

[@ZAYA.21]

@@UniverseChronologywe can still see dick as a titan along with Wally.

[@trevturp6891]

Facts

[@trevturp6891]

Exactly

[@greenninjaob5051]

If Barry was the DCU Flash, what would be your pitch for a Barry movie?

[@RespecablPanda]

I wonder if there's a way to write it so we follow Wally's story at first, watch him get powers, tackle some smaller problems. But then part way through the movie we hear Barry call out to Wally through the Speed Force. Maybe show how Barry had the accident but almost immediately runs into the SF and needs Wally's help to get out. I'd almost lean into a Firestorm vibe with Barry being the thoughtful, scientific mind giving Wally advice when he gets into trouble

[@user-zq3bz8io5n]

I do love the opinion of having Barry disappear and having Wally be the flash. The return of Barry Allen comic is one I’m intrigued about and I’m gonna read it rn

[@NickHippo13]

let me know what you think!

[@ishaanbhattacharya9405]

Just like lanterns had both hal & john, a flash movie/show can have both barry & wally with wally continuing as the main flash (in his rebirth costume) And maybe barry can be in the same age range of hal and we can see them as friends

[@dcsakuga7631]

I’d argue Barry because he has imo the better dynamic with his rogues Wally has a great one too but Barry feels more special

[@The_Phantasm]

Great video and I wholeheartedly agree.

[@maje.47]

u earned my subscription but u dont have to listen to me but getting led lights and a fluff mic would be rlly good to the quality of ur videos

[@NickHippo13]

@@maje.47 yeah, I definitely need to improve mic quality, I appreciate it. And I look white af 💀💀💀

[@conklordd]

Loved watching JLU with my step dad and brother as a kid, Wally west all the way, my goat

[@trexadvent4726]

Do you think Lucas Till should play Barry Allen Flash in James Gunn DC projects in the DCU since he looks like Barry Allen from the comics with blonde hair? Do you think Jace Norman should play Wally West Kid Flash?

[@NickHippo13]

Lucas looks the part but the contrast in age between him and Kyle Chandler as Hal would be a bit too jarring for me

[@kbg12ila]

Subscriber number 200!

[@trevturp6891]

Just because they are making Hal Jordan old, grizzled, and a veteran in The DCU, doesn't mean that they are going to do the same with Barry Allen in The DCU and they also don't have to make Barry Allen old, grizzled, and a veteran in The DCU, just, because they are going to do that to Hal Jordan.

[@The_Phantasm]

I love that whenever people bring up John Stewart, the video has the TV host Jon Stewart listed as "people mentioned".

[@NickHippo13]

That’s funny af 🤣🤣

[@SuperladCK94]

"The Fake Newsguy from Elseworlds?"

[@O777B]

I like that pitch but im not really into the face swap element, i think it would be good Thawne wasnt aware that Wally became the new flash and knew Barrys flashs real identity. If Wallys family saw "barry" on tv in the news , noticing hes in town they're wondering why he never came by, wally goes looking for him and notice its not actually barry under the mask- the movie is about beating Thawn and finding the real Barry

[@Floomunem]

Recently Wallace got the nickname of "Ace" in The Flash comics

[@kingblackthorn4195]

I am praying for Wally. I find him to be more enderaing. I do think we have had so much Barry as of late, so I really just want Wally. He deserves this.

[@MandatoryFruit]

I would argue we haven't had enough Barry. He hasn't gotten a proper adaptation yet. Just like Wally. Who has been the main Flash in the comics for years btw.

[@kingblackthorn4195]

@@MandatoryFruit This is not true. Wally was erased in the New 52 and near the end of Prime Earth (Pre-New 52) Barry came back and was the one that was the center focus again leading into Flashpoint. Furthermore, when Rebirth occured, Wally came back but on the titans run and Barry was once again the main flash in the flash run and JL. Only recently has Wally came back as the main flash with Dawn of DC when he took over the main run and took over in the Titans again. Even further, Barry was the center focus for the Flash show, which while it did fall off, its early seasons are a good adaptation of Barry as a character. We also had The Flash movie, which if you can look past the CGI, and casting, story wise it is a solid Barry Allen story. Actual Wally West has not had an on screen debut, and furthermore he is a far more popular flash within comic fandoms.

[@MandatoryFruit]

@@kingblackthorn4195 So Wally: Was the main Flash for 25 years. During that time he had some of the most highly acclaimed Flash stories both in the comics and cartoons. He went missing for 5 or 6 give or take. Came back, does his stuff for a few years with the Titans (plus his awesome miniseries where he literally gains the powers of Dr. Manhattan), before once again being made the main Flash. Meanwhile, Barry: Comes back after being dead for 25 years, gets two really good miniseries from Geoff Johns, and one solid run from Joshua Williamson. He also has two good seasons of a TV show (and even that misses out on some of the best parts of Barry's character). Other than that, what does he have? Seasons 3 to 9 of the CW Flash range from mediocre to unwatchable. His movie is NOT good. It has a few good scenes, but it does no justice to Barry as a character whatsoever. He acts more like Wally than he does Barry. I'm not saying Wally doesn't deserve to shine in the DCU. He ABSOLUTELY does. But imo, Barry has yet to actually get a proper faithful adaptation in live action. Which you can argue is better than not getting one at all, but it sucks not seeing your favorite hero being done the justice that he should. Plus, Reverse Flash is Barry's villain, and it will be a colossal miss not to have the two of them go at it on the big screen. And Wally's whole character (initially) revolves around Barry. We need to see that relationship develop. It will be so much more satisfying to see Wally come into his own after having the torch passed down to him from Barry. You get me? There's no reason DC can't cater to fans of both characters.

[@GaranSOI]

Time for Jay Garrick flash 😂

[@sergiocortes86]

A Flash dedicated video sounds interesting…

[@j2174]

I want Wally to be younger and be Dick's age so they can be besties. I am cool with a Wallace eventually coming along too.

[@NickHippo13]

Yeah that dynamic is really important and one of the best friendships in the universe

[@goopman1347]

To be honest I'm really mixed on the mixtures of comic stuff and the established universe I love the idea of exploring these characters in that way but I feel like we might miss out on some valuable origin story stuff specifically hal Jordan I love Kyle Rayner and guy Gardner and John Stewart but jesus hal has never really been given good adaptations

[@konger6069]

I hope grant gustin gets a role, obviously not as barry or wally but some kind of homage and give the man a good script

[@ryangarner7721]

Not entirely a Barry fan as I havent read any Flash comics or seen enough of Barry, but from what I’ve heard, the 2 most recent versions of Barry are not like Barry much/actually more Wally. So I’d kinda like like the DCU to show us Barry for a bit just so casuals don’t see the Flash quipping and not being a detective and think he’s Barry or think they’re doing Barry wrong. Then bring Wally in and contrast him??

[@Itsdamere]

Make more videos bro W channel

[@NickHippo13]

I’m cooking up a few right now. Appreciate you!

[@nightwing1491]

I am not someone that has a large amount of knowledge on Barry Allen but I feel like the DCU should start off with Barry Allen being the DCU Flash and then later down the line you have Wally West take up the mantle for the Flash, also I don't know how many people are talking about this but, I also hope that the Flash doesn't show lightning surrounding his body all of the time because, I am pretty sure that lightning should only surround his body when he is in his top speed.

[@trevturp6891]

They should simply pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@nightwing1491]

@trevturp6891 I mean, good luck this giving him a name because the are at least over 7 or 10 characters with lightning based abilities

[@trevturp6891]

@@nightwing1491 You have to admit that that's much, much better than him stupidly continuing to be The Flash. Even though, he doesn't need to be The Flash anymore, now that Barry Allen is back.

[@trevturp6891]

@@nightwing1491 Also him not having his own superhero codename is a huge problem with his character.

[@nightwing1491]

@@trevturp6891 I mean yeah I do agree but you or whoever needs to find a way of what his name should be, so I don't know what to tell you.

[@DAonYT]

I would watch a video about Wally vs Wallace West

[@philwithawill1541]

Do one for animal man!

[@vishnucs33]

Why not Both. There is Already 3 Green Lantern in DCU so Both Barry and Wally can both be The Flash in DCU

[@jamesdonath7303]

Who do you think should the actor should be to play the flash and the actor to play Wally west

[@SavedAndConfused]

WALLY WALLY IT HAS TO BE WALLY. They’ve been erasing his legacy for years and supplanting a lot of his accomplishments and personality traits into Barry to make him more interesting but Wally deserves it

[@NyctoPhobia197]

I think the “Missing in action” route for Barry is a little too much like Ted Kord in the blue beetle movie so I think it would be better if Barry was dead in case Wally is the main flash

[@batsaubattler3200]

Definitely wally after what Ezra did? And how hard it flopped plus I think James Gunn is kinda of pulling a justice league unlimited in his lineup hence why Hal Jordan is also being a lil sidelined in my opinion and John is the main lantern I really expect him to translate that kind of vibe to live action I can't wait

[@T3aseW1thease]

Honestly I think that It would be a really interesting idea if after we get Wally as the Flash, we get a Impulse who then becomes the main Flash after Idk Wally dies or something bc his time as the Flash in the comics was short and didnt get the proper buildup and development.

[@NickHippo13]

Yeah, impulse is a really cool character, I feel like even if they have to swap eras for him and put him in the titans with Damian Wayne and Jon Kent they should. I think he’s a more compelling character than Wallace west and I’d rather see him as the kid flash of this universe.

[@Kalel2.0]

I love Bart dont get me wrong but him being fast tracked as the Flash did not work at all especially with how they aged him up

[@daimonatkins3046]

Wally West has the better chance of being the DCU Flash both because of his potential as a character and because of how they’d likely want to not have Barry Allen around after what happened with Ezra Miller and the Flash movie

[@zerodragonsaiyen3268]

I’m trying to get more into DC so I can understand this new DCU and for me I would choose Barry because I know him from childhood and I barley don’t know anything about Wally other than Young Justice where he went to Micheal Jackson’s Concert is season 2 🤷🏾

[@Kalel2.0]

I love both Wally and Barry and while Barry is my favourite and I'd be hyped to see him done right and the justice he deserves especially as a founding member of the League(With adapting his stories outside of Flashpoint like the Trial of the Flash,Finnish line etc)however i wouldnt be opposed to Wally being the Flash in this universe as he has the best Flash stories(The Waid,Jones and Adams runs),development(Hes one of the few characters thats actually allowed to grow) and a fan favorite and he more has earned the right to a live action adaptation plus its not like Barry is gonna remain dead as they could always bring him back in a couple of years similar to how they did in the comics and have them co exist

[@NickHippo13]

Perfectly said. And yeah, the aging up of characters like Jon Kent and Bart has been lame, Wally’s growth was something that I really enjoyed watching as I grew up reading comics (I didn’t grow up as they were releasing, just collecting books over the years)

[@Kalel2.0]

@@NickHippo13Thanks man and you collecting Flash books over the years sounds kinda sweet and cool and I definitely agree I know Flash comics werent selling well in the mid 2000s but fast tracking Bart was not the way to go especially when him being a much younger and naive Flash compared to past versions like Barry,Wally and Jay who were all young adults when they became the Flash(Barry being in his mid 20s,Wally being 20 if I remember correctly and Jay being a college aged)couldve been a cool and unique take and I 100% agree that aging up Jonathan was just not a great idea especially when his growth could have been so intriguing

[@FragmentedWisp]

Wally West as main Flash and show Barry in the Teen Titans movie as flashback (if the Titans ends up being a flashback movie starring Dick Grayson Robin and the rest)

[@TheAnimeLore24]

For me knowing James Gunn he’s probably gonna go with Barry and his villain will be reverse flash and if he goes with Wally then he’s gonna go with reverse flash aka Daniel wests version iris west brother if yall didn’t know but for me im gonna go with Barry

[@imoutotrash390]

Barry is my fav superhero ever, but i think wally just makes more sense with where the league is headed. If Barry dont got hal to bounce off of, it just wont feel right. Mainly wally can sand off the more insane elements of flash. While I particularly love insane speed force nonsense it clutters things heavily in writing. With wally you focus on guys who runs. Me personally you just pull a ted and jaime with barry as the more pragmatic science based senior with his idealistic fun loving succesor.

[@imoutotrash390]

That being said it all boils down to me how old dick is because I need to see my favorite boys Wally West Roy Harper and Dick Grayson just bro out on the big screen

[@T3aseW1thease]

Read The Flash Rebirth (the Original one not the New 52 one) its probably the best Barry Allen Comic and the second Best Flash Series Besides Waid's Run

[@NickHippo13]

I’ve never check out rebirth flash! Thanks for the rec!

[@M08Xrd]

Wally THE GOAT West

[@TheGuyWhoEditz147]

Who are you gonna cast for barry and wally

[@NickHippo13]

Honestly, not much of a fancaster. I usually wait until the role is picked and decide whether I think it’s good or bad.

[@TheGuyWhoEditz147]

@@NickHippo13 oh cmon just say who u would prefer

[@AP_323]

You can do Barry is missing and Wally is the main flash and make Bart Allen the kid flash in the dcu.

[@__-dk8fh]

hoping for a red robin and saint walker film where theyre tracking down black mask, hopefully with powergirl in it as well

[@NickHippo13]

I had to triple check this comment ngl 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheGuyWhoEditz147]

whose saint walker

[@NickHippo13]

Leader of the blue lanterns

[@TheGuyWhoEditz147]

@@NickHippo13 oh ok

[@MandatoryFruit]

Yeah, first thing I disagree with you on. Wally starting as the main Flash could actually sour me on the DCU in it's entirety. Barry isn't just my favorite Flash. He's my favorite superhero (not that I dislike Wally, he's my second favorite hero). Cutting him out of the DCU before he gets at least one movie is WAY too disrespectful. Wally can take over eventually. But I would rather see him spend time as Kid Flash first. Plus, if you're going to have Reverse Flash (which you need to, he's a great villain), it has to be facing off against Barry. RF is Barry's villain, not Wally's.

[@WeebGuru6]

The way I would want it is have chapter 1 max 2 with Barry and u have professor zoom as the main villain Barry dies defeating and have Wally take over

[@mbphilipblack8993]

Love Barry but i think they'll go with Wally. And with the direction with the Lantern's John and Wally our are new heroes the older ones Barry and Hal will be mentors/get killed. As with the CW we already had a long time with Barry and the DCEU kinda tarnished the character so to differentiate we'll get Wally and they'll introduce Wallace (i liked him in New 52 Rebirth) in the Titans or use Impulse. Would love to see Jay, hes MY GUY but i don't think they're heading towards JS as we're getting a JLA/JLI

[@NickHippo13]

Man, the JSA is my favorite superhero team. James Robinson’s golden age + JSA by Geoff johns are 2 of my favorite runs ever. Cool to see a fellow Jay fan

[@ANIKETKUMAR-ix4ym]

Without Barry , there is no point to introduce flash in DCU

[@SuperladCK94]

If we're getting JLI, make Wally main and have Barry be in *Flash* -backs.

[@sfvaladez346]

​@@SuperladCK94 No, have Barry be the main flash in the justice league & have Wally be Kid Flash in the Teen Titans & later on make Wally the main Flash, all this in favor of Wally & building him up to become the justice league Flash

[@SuperladCK94]

@@sfvaladez346 Superman is starting with the JLI roster. If we're doing JLI, Wally will already be the Flash. Look at the line-up we have of a potential league. Superman, Hawkgirl (Kendra), Guy Gardner as GL, Mr. Terrific (Holt) and eventually I presume Rocket Red, Fire, Ice, Ralph, Eric Strauss as Fate, Billy, Dinah L, Kimiyo, Vixen, J'onn, Ted and Michael Carter with potential Bruce, Diana and Arthur options. If Michael's already Mr. Terrific, then Wally would logically already be Flash and they can depict Barry the way they're depicting Hal and John's GL time, as a curiosity of the past. We're not doing another origin mess, we're starting in media res...plus maybe we get to learn that this isn't the first iteration of the league but the fourth after that whole JL: Detroit thing backfired for the same reasons why JLI did: the absolute ignorance and disrespect of anyone not wearing the S or =W= on their chest as a respected leader even though Aquaman, Green Lantern (Hal and John both) and Martian Manhunter are actually good leaders, Batman is 50/50 on it...with his family he's good, but with the league...he needs to learn to loosen up and have fun on the job, just because it's a job that he must take seriously...it doesn't mean he has to be so serious all the time...I mean I get being serious in Gotham, but he should be having fun with the league since "it's not the same type of jokers he usually deals with" and would be his version of a soda break. That seems to be the general attitude of the DCU's denizens too...if anything happens to Superman for real, Wonder Woman becomes public eye...and most likely Hal after that since Diana, Clark and Hal have always been confirmed as the most powerful members of the league...since Hal's a walking Power of Courage Battery, Clark's a Solar Panel and Diana's a golem who can balance being a solar panel and technopath...at the same time.

[@WHlSKYtx]

Wildly stupid take

[@Clankem]

@@WHlSKYtxWally is who he is because of Barry’s death. How is that a stupid take?

[@liamabrahams3166]

I just want a flash family in the dcu. Similar to young justice.

[@christianwilliams3441]

We probably won’t see him for quite some time since his movie is still so new there probably gonna treat him like green lantern movie flopped one time never made another one or he’s essentially probably gonna be like the hulk just showing up in team up movies. Maybe tv show but the cw show already told so many of his most important and popular stories what else is it to tell

[@NickHippo13]

yeah, I saw some rumors (that definitely could be fake) that the flash might make his debut in animation in the DCU. I agree, it's unfortunately probably a property that WB doesn't want to revisit anytime soon because of how badly it flopped.

[@christianwilliams3441]

@ yeah I was literally thinking the same thing most likely animated tv series which could be cool

[@ZatannaFan94]

Nick actually Ezra goes by "they" but regardless they were a shitty flash lol, but you are also right about Gen Z liking Barry Allen, my brother is Gen Z and because of the flash show, flash is his favorite super hero, I really think like how aaron pierres jon stewart is most likely gonna be the main Green Lantern, I feel like they should do similar with Barry, hes the flash then after he some time he does a heros arc then leads to Wally becoming the main flash, win win.

[@NickHippo13]

Exactly, fans of both characters win. And thanks for the correction, I wouldn’t do that on purpose, I record these off the top of my head.

[@brantjustilian3791]

Ezra Miller kinda of tainted the Barry Allen character and if you want to see a good flash watch the arrow verse. But stop at the crisis of infinite earth because the shows fall hard afterwards. Wally West doesn’t have and single live action version and will probably the most likely flash that James Gunn will use because impulse might be a teen Titans character. While the investors and WB executives will want Wallace West because of diversity.

[@RED-_.FURY98]

we need Barry to be main flash and wally need on teen titians

[@eliteghost1001]

Well I hope we get to see the red head version of kid flash and not the race changed black kid flash and Barry should be the flash we should see first

[@trevturp6891]

Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@carterblake-x3b]

shut up spammer

[@TheMaster4863]

so if the Flash does appear in movies before a Justice League movie I think you should have Barry and Wally show up together and then you could have Barry sacrifice himself in the Justice League film. Additionally, don't set the Teen Titans movie in modern times, have it be 5-10 years ago so we can have the Wolfman Titans everyone loves and we can see some of that development Dick and Wally get earlier on. that's what I think would be a good way to handle it

[@trevturp6891]

They should simply pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@T3unlimited]

​@trevturp6891 Hell no, let Wally West definitely be the flash. He earned that title. It's possible to have two flashes around, just like it's possible to have 2 spider-men around

[@carterblake-x3b]

@T3unlimited i agree trev is butt hurt wally's flash is well loved

[@garrisonmoss]

One thing I have to disagree with you about is that wally has better flash comics, your opinion on that is very subjective, and yes wally's runs are great, but I have to confidently say Barry has the better comics.

[@NickHippo13]

Yeah that’s fair I definitely should not have worded it like that in hindsight. What’s your favorite flash run?

[@garrisonmoss]

@@NickHippo13 I don't really have favorites since I like them all. However if I had to pick, I love Geoff John's new 52 run, and Joshua Williamson's run as well as rebirth by Geoff Johns.

[@UniverseChronology]

@@garrisonmoss Small correction, Geoff Johns didn't write Flash in the New 52, you're likely referring to his run with Barry that started just prior to the New 52 in 2010.

[@garrisonmoss]

@ never said he wrote the flash during the new 52. He did write rebirth when Barry came back.

[@garrisonmoss]

@ you misinterpreted what I said when in actuality, I never stated that Geoff John’s wrote new 52

[@jack_yo]

You're not wrong, Geoff Johns was killing it in the early 2000s. Sadly, he destroyed DC comics forever with Flashpoint and the New 52. Also, Geoff Johns started using a ghost writer after Flashpoint. He will give someone a rough plot and the ghost writer will script it. Read any Johns story pre Flashpoint and it's totally obvious that someone else is doing his work now.

[@TheGuyWhoEditz147]

the thing is i dont want barry to be old like i dont want my fav superhero to be 60 and i bet if he is 60 jay garrick would have died like 20 yrs ago with this age

[@NickHippo13]

I wish Hal was in his 40s and John was in his 30s, I feel like having Hal mentor John is just kinda odd, but if they’re gonna do it, Hal should be the same age as Barry. I agree, I don’t want either to be old, unfortunate they went that direction for Hal. I’m a big Hal fan

[@TheGuyWhoEditz147]

I think it would be fine if barry is in his mid 30s. i dont think we are gonna see hal jordan after lanterns as he doesnt have any movie contracts

[@elchompi12rewind27]

I pick Wally to be the main Flash for the films.

[@gatorboy21king]

only way i want Wally is if they plan on getting Grant as Barry down the line otherwise I want my boy Barry

[@juanloaiza9975]

the murder in the GL show should be Barry Allen and at the end he gets resurrected as the first black Lantern

[@catdog12204]

Wally is also the fastest flash

[@ZAYA.21]

Barry Allen should be The Flash nobody else. (I guess Jay Garrick can also be the Flash)

[@biguy617]

Patrick J Adams or Lucas Till are the best choices

[@ZariF0209]

Both

[@nickjames9379]

Barry will be main flash remember there a teen titans movie so wally will be part of that team

[@NickHippo13]

Titans movie could just be the rebirth team tho since Damian was introduced

[@reecewiczy7758]

Bradly cooper for old grizzled Barry

[@garrisonmoss]

This is my opinion. I wholeheartedly stand by Wally, I love him and his runs, however I grew up with Barry, and the flash show, along with his comics. As probably one of the biggest flash fans you'll find I have to say that Barry is the definitive flash, and is the better character and flash, with better villain's, stories, and is better as a whole. As a huge flash fan I love both regardless, but Barry is just the better character, and who I think undoubtedly should be the main flash. Not saying wally shouldn't be in the new DCU, I just think that Barry should have a proper story first. According to google, other internet sources, and DC themselves while everyone likes wally, factually Barry is the most popular flash, and character to dawn the mantle. I love Mark Waid's run, however my favorites are Joshua Williamsons Barry run, Geoff John's Barry run, along with others. Factually Barry has the most popular stories like flashpoint. I feel most of the flash fan community prefer Barry as the flash, and people born, and read comics during the 2000s prefer Wally.

[@Kalel2.0]

Actually it's the exact opposite most hardcore comic fans prefer Wally(Love the guy to death) and tend to dunk on Barry and Wally has the better consistent stories and development and that's coming from the Biggest Barry fanboy I will say hes the most well known and popular with general audiences and while he has great stories they arent as consistent compared to Wallys

[@garrisonmoss]

@ not really

[@trevturp6891]

Facts, Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@trevturp6891]

Exactly, Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@trevturp6891]

Agreed, Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU. They should pull a Nightwing and give Wally West a new superhero name. That way, both Barry Allen and Wally West can co exist in The DCU.

[@WHlSKYtx]

Wally is the best flash

[@ryan0b645]

Theyre obviously gonna do Jay Gerrick😤

[@trevturp6891]

No, they're not.

[@ryan0b645]

@ idk man i think they should have a 90 y/o jay gerrick who is bound to a wheel chair and is also suffering from dementia so he doesn’t even remember he can move fast

[@trevturp6891]

@@ryan0b645 Why?

[@carterblake-x3b]

@@trevturp6891 stop being a dang hater

[@deathofkauan]

Mark Waid is the goat🙏🏽

[@NickHippo13]

No lies told.

[@MKL3165]

Take the plan George miller had for the flash with barry and wally and bingo. Have barry go out like a g to save the day against brainiac lex Luthor or whoever. Have wally come in as he comes to try to stop Barry from sacrificing himself. But barry while both in the speed force tells him its his turn and boom. Wally at one point in time was the popular flash in a animated series. Before the flash show came out.

[@NickHippo13]

that Justice League mortal script is awesome, I read it a couple years ago. Wish we got to see what that movie would've looked like.

[@MKL3165]

@@NickHippo13 hell yes u already know where I'm headed with this lol. Tbh James Gunn should use the best parts for the justice league or flash solo film.

[@MKL3165]

​​@@NickHippo13I'm also writing a FANMADE Batman DCU idea. The script isn't done yet. I do it for fun. I could copy and paste the idea. It's pretty dope tbh. Terry McGinnis goes to the past where it is the present for the DCU heroes. He goes back to save batman and help him get on the right track after Jason's def. Joker is in acoma and thanks to him stealing bombs and tech from argus and almost blowing up Gotham. It is under the protection of not just gcpd but also argus agents who are corrupted. I always wanted to see a high tech James Bond like Batman go against military soldiers and face one tough one that gives him a challenge. Terry informs him things will get worse if he does not save his son Damian. Terry goes under another name as undercover argus agent. His disguise til of course Batman figures it out at the end. White ghost would be the main villain the son of ras after his death took over and talia is second in command. They orchestrated Jason's death by helping the joker to get back at Batman for Ras'death. They are acting as Amanda waller in a simulation in disguise to not only trick the batman. But also take over Gotham while he is gone to save his son and Jim Gordon who is held hostage. Batman with the help of the batman family unite to stop this threat and ultimately save the day. Terry who is time traveling thanks to an older wally in the future and booster gold. Ends up showing Bruce something else in the end. A huge Easter egg leading to the big justice league bad. That's what I have so far.

[@MKL3165]

​@@NickHippo13great video btw

[@DustyBustty]

Jay Garrick flash now

[@Leahcimmichael]

I hope its Wally West. Tired of Barry Allen getting Wally's traits

[@MandatoryFruit]

So just do Barry without Wally's traits?