WHW #23: Bash at the Beach 1996

[@justinjockisch4105]

The fact that Michael Cole has a job in WWE and Tony doesn't is a travesty.

[@terryceroni8219]

Nailed it^. Schiavone was an awesome play-by-play guy. I preferred him over JR even once I started liking the WWF product more. I've come to appreciate JR over the years, but I still think Schiavone was the ultimate straight man whereas JR went WAY over the top kissing Austin's ass during the Attitude Era.

[@Robbingjacks]

I would replace Michael with Tony in an heartbeat

[@unmitigateddisaster3793]

@@terryceroni8219 In JR's defense, Austin was a mega-babyface and it's his job to push the guy to the moon on commentary. Tony did the exact same thing with Hogan before he turned - both did it well, and honestly Tony had the much harder job because unlike Austin Hogan in the mid-90s as a babyface was NOT working.

[@CeemPlay]

I love the fact Tony never worked for modern WWF. He is a different cat than the show they run in Stanford, CT. & He is so much better for it.

[@maxalfonso9050]

you probably dont care but if you guys are bored like me atm you can watch all the new series on InstaFlixxer. I've been streaming with my brother recently :)

[@marves7960]

If you feel Heenan questioning "who's side is he on?" detracts from Hogan's turn, obviously didn't follow the Brain or Hogan's career prior to WcW. Heel or face, Bobby's ongoing "gimmick" was never trusting Hogan in any capacity.

[@eddypimp]

Marvin Sulaiman those people are morons for thinking that. Heenan was right to question him since he has said in promos about Hogan being fake. Heenan had a great character with a great gimmick.

[@marves7960]

edward welsh Absolutely! Somebody that knows what hes talking about finally! Bobby Heenan played his role so well, we really thought that he did not like Hogan in real life too. He was Hogan's biggest backer and they stayed close until the day of his passing. I believe Hogan also wrote an excerpt in Heenan's book too. Bobby Heenan had such a beautiful and brilliant mind for this industry, I was upset when I heard that he was constantly told to mind his own business when he offered suggestions in WcW.

[@GhostTower]

Marvin Sulaiman Bobby said it because schiavonne was being too obvious. Even when Bobby said it, it was schiavonne's reaction that was once again too obvious

[@jpayne3616]

He has even said you cant trust the man in a few WWF shows in the late 80's to early 90's

[@terryceroni8219]

This^

[@urabusxrw04]

8:50

[@unmitigateddisaster3793]

Watching all these old WCW Nitros and PPVs for the first time, and when I got to the "Hulk Hogan you can go straight to hell." comment I got massive goosebumps. It was so real, the anger and disappointment in his voice were so profound. It's the best call I've ever heard. Tony is so good at his job it's shocking, and this is from a WWF mark who grew up on Jim Ross. I don't even hate the 'whose side is he on!' thing from Bobby. That's EXACTLY what his character would say. It didn't spoil anything because we were used to Bobby claiming Hogan was fake at every opportunity. If anything it reinforced the craziness of his turn because we all realized that Bobby Heenan was RIGHT all along.

[@adamw3983]

That whole bit about Klondike Bill and Tony being pervy at 1:03:45 is classic. I haven't heard the term "nappy dugout" since about 1992

[@ChristopherJohn4389]

I literally could listen to Conrad and Tony talk about wrestling every night, and I do lol. I fall asleep to these guys every night, cant get enough. When my phone closes due to inactivity, I wake up and restart it, true story

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

Christopher John I know right lol. If only we could turn up a few beers with those two That world be something

[@SurgeonVault]

Same here man, this podcast has got me through some rough times and some great times.

[@hollypierce4843]

Me too

[@Amoury123505]

It was the first WCW pay-per-view I bought I usually bought WWF I love the pay-per-view but the quality in the signal that they sent me to my television shotty so sometimes during the matches I would just see snow

[@borednow5838]

Great show. WHW is probably the best of these podcasts. Tony's a fun down to earth guy with great insight into the business, but also he gives his honest opinion. Its great reliving this whole time. Have to say I didn't have a problem with Heenan's comedy during the Mysterio/Psychsis match. I found it funny, it didn't seem like Heenan was trying to bury the match to me.

[@Garf_malarf]

I just stumbled upon this show and I love it I will be buying a T-shirt and you have gained a weekly listener great job guys

[@dutchboi2425]

U and me both mike

[@rustykuntz94]

Tony was AMAZING along w Dusty & Heenan that night but Tony's emotion in the uniqueness of the event and how shocking this was sold it perfectly. Even early on when Luger goes down how he sold the panic "Luger was knocked out, he was HIT WITH THE STINGER SPLASH! He may have hit his head on the ring post."

[@blairjayson]

Hogan's in-ring promo after joining the NWO was easily top 2 or 3 in the history of pro wrestling. As typical, Dave Meltzer doesn't have a clue what wrestling fans find compelling.

[@rustykuntz94]

Even the biggest Hogan haters have to give him props that night, all the garbage in the ring and what he says to Mean Gene about that's what the fans are (garbage)

[@TL2354]

I had stopped watching wrestling around 1992, would maybe watch everyone once in awhile but when I heard about this and finally saw it I was hooked again

[@lougaru2445]

This episode is a masterpiece I'm real impressed

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Conrad makes every podcast he's on entertaining while still keeping it truthful.

[@ChristopherJohn4389]

Ive never seen a thumbs down for any What Happened When video...and for good reason. Greatest wrestling podcast there is IMO

[@ChristopherJohn4389]

Tony is such a good dude, much better than Prichard, as far as the two podcasts are concerned. I like Bruce, but Tony should be calling Raw right now.

[@MCLogikILL]

Prichard is an asshole, I prefer this podcast as well as 83 Weeks.

[@unmitigateddisaster3793]

Why do you hate Tony so much to sentence him to have to call that awful, bland, unwatchable program?

[@Badvibesdude]

I would love an interview with the guy in the front row with the ECW shirt.

[@DMACAVILLION]

“Larry always did have great ideas, although he’s probably an old fuck now” LMFAO

[@MrAitraining]

Tony might be my fav listen on these Conrad's shows. They have great chemistry and tony is very likeable and funny.

[@josephdelledonne2098]

These guys are funny as hell! I always thought Schiavone was a stiff, but when he's not being professional on the job he's a riot. I respect him a lot now too, Heenan buried him bad, and he's still saying he loved Bobby and Bobby was great. I don't think I could be like that.

[@JMFSpike]

I think that one has to understand where Bobby was coming from. They'd worked together for many years and he considered Tony a good friend, so when Tony didn't keep in contact with Heenan after WCW ended, it really hurt him in a big way. When someone is hurt like that, they sometimes react by doing exactly what Heenan did. I suppose trashing them is a way to get revenge in their minds. All things considered, I wouldn't be too hard on Bobby. He was only human, and Tony admitted years ago in an interview that it was his fault and felt really bad about it. Tony said that Bobby was a guy who always liked to stay in contact with everyone, and Tony just wasn't like that.

[@215dynasty6]

Tony's promo in TNA will forever be gold

[@GeoGuy388]

Tony said what I've been saying for years. Heenan did not spoil Hogan as the third man, as he walked to the ring. Heenan had made an (announcing) career out of being a Hogan hater, up until that point. It only made sense that he'd try to make everyone think Hogan was the third man. In that moment, given Heenan's history, it almost helped continue the element of surprise because if you're a fan, you hear that and you think, "oh yeah, sure Bobby. Hogan's really a bad guy." And then when he drops that leg and you find out he really is, it's that much more of a shock.

[@Zanatos9]

I agree, had anyone been watching Nitro and previous PPVs they would know that Heenan constantly said Hogan was a bum, scammer and was upto no good. He would double Cross anyone if he could. So the comment during the PPV was normal.

[@rackballjones6585]

Still spoiled it

[@redlighter3695]

Great show it's always amazing I've listened to every episode so far I'm late but it's okay how much do I have to pay to have dinner with you guys now?

[@CampCasserole]

Rey Mysterio vs. Psychosis match is the best match. Plus, Bobby Heenan had some hilarious comments.

[@roberdink]

Last night's Dynamite reminded me of this moment!

[@the_elmeister]

15:13 - Start of review

[@rustykuntz94]

2 OF THE BIGGER WWF angles ever Bruce was in the dark on, the Screwjob & the 1988 Evil Twin Hebner referee angle

[@chriso8158]

When they said Eric took bump before Vince you got to remember Eric was perceived as simply an announcer

[@fthomason93]

And what was Vince before the screwjob/Austin angle?

[@Andysnyc]

@@fthomason93 While Vince was the lead announcet for years, he was also the owner. People caught on to Vince being the owner during the "ring boy" scandal and the steroids scandal in the 1990s.

[@josephdelledonne2098]

@@fthomason93 Right, for the longest time I didn't know Vince was the owner, and a lot of us didn't.

[@kyleludlow2095]

How old is this podcast? he said 19 yrs ago this happened unless I'm trippin that means this from 2015? Cause now in 2019 this ppv is 23 yrs old ...I figured this show at most was 2 yrs old

[@PlowKingzter]

Thank you! I thought I was going crazy. According to Wikipedia the podcast started in 2017. It's possible both of them were thinking '98? Things like this annoy me..

[@stacyjohnston9803]

This being the best? Your Damn right it was! It changed my life! Till this day! You piss me off? You will get The Big Boot! And 3 Leg Drops! Ohhhh It's like Bash at the Beach. All over again!

[@robertbrunelle8076]

i follow wrestling withwregts long time

[@solidus818]

The best 🏇 man was Kevin Nash with that spot promo. Lol 😂

[@rustykuntz94]

When Hogan tells the fans they're garbage and can all go stick it Nash pantomimes the FU with that smirk, GENIUS

[@Zanatos9]

I agree with Tony, I was rewatching this last night. Woman shrieking and screaming, caused me to mute the match.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

The only bigger surprise than Hogan would have been Vince McMahon.

[@jonathanlindsey790]

Is that Lanny Poffo doing the promos for the live show at the beginning and end? Sounds like him.

[@jasondouglas152]

I remember hating Hulk Hogan for so long and this instantly made me a fan. nWo was such a great idea , too bad it got so watered down so fast.

[@scarfade1635]

If a heel can make you hate him over any other wrestler he did his job.. much like a jobber losing every week. Takes 2 to tango and this creates the stars we know today. As barry horriwitz said in a recent shoot interview... if i got up from a tombstone piledriver and walked out of the ring.. I would have ruined the undertakers career

[@michaelallanrubin2376]

A noted wrestling historian

[@travelreview5962]

Why haven't you done this with Bishoff? I know y'all did the forming of the nWo but...whatever you think of Eric Bishoff this PPV is his story...

[@LoganSewell83]

As much as I like the artwork, I think that Vince McMahon would have made a great Harvey Dent.

[@brandonmccann5858]

2:11:30

[@PrinceAkkanatan]

1:13:47 TF does that mean?

[@zenoftupac9096]

Finding out that Conrad is a Russo sympathizer dropped him from an 8/10 wrestling podcast host IMO - to a 6/10 immediately and permanently. Those 2 points will be impossible to make up.

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

Russo without Vince McMahon was absolutely worthless.

[@mikequesada6559]

R.I.P. Bruno..

[@robertbrunelle8076]

lol tony

[@CeemPlay]

Tony is king

[@brandonb9468]

Would have been more impactful if Randy Mulkey turned on Bill Mulkey.

[@josephboza7448]

I think they needed Hogan cause he had 2 shows left on his contract. Chances were pretty good that Vince would try to get him back. It was interesting how the announcers were almost made to look stupid cause they didnt know ahead of time that Hogan was coming. The Carson City Silver Dollar match was a giant cluster fuck. I think the producers wanted shits and giggles. Tenta and Rogers werent going to climb that pole. It didnt take rocket science to figure that out.

[@ScottTuckey]

Conrad needs to rewatch a lot of matches Bobby commentating its his schtick.

[@trurobertson]

I can't bring myself to like Michael Cole... Don't judge me

[@jaserogers997]

#HoKogan

[@CampCasserole]

Give Bobby Heenan a break. 1996 was a different time. Being sensitive to people's cultures wasn't a big thing like it is now. I don't think Bobby was being mean spirited.

[@jacobcook7]

This would have been the most memorable moment if Bobby Heenan didn't fuck the whole thing up.

[@robertbrunelle8076]

vader

[@deanjackson625]

Sucka gotta know who's tony daddy? LOIS

[@AmericanGypsy206]

The only good WCW PPV events was Halloween havoc, fall brawl, super brawl, souled out , and Starracade & the great American bash, slamboree, bash at the beach, road wild & spring stampede where complete utter garbage 🗑️

[@jabrockobiden9434]

Vonce copied everything he did from the territorries

[@AmericanGypsy206]

Bash at the Beach 1996 was overrated. All wrestling podcast seem to want to talk about is the hogan heel turn It’s been discussed more than the Montreal screw job hulk. Hogan had the lamest matches. He was lazy in the ring. He was passed his prime WCW relied too much on yesterday’s talent bash at the beach was a shitty PPV event that was their equivalent to SummerSlam but tell me what event is still around today? Here’s a hint it’s not bash at the beach

[@Therealgeoffchilds]

Right off the top I have to hear about some lady who rips Donald Trump now I don’t even want to listen to this and I’m closing the video like I can’t even listen to a wrestling podcast without having to hear some kind of view on politics. Now that it’s two years later ask the lady how does she feel about America’s economy being better than it ever has been. A lot of you are making yourself look stupid by saying stupid things that Father Time will bite you in the ass for

[@chadfoster6150]

tony walked in on pat Patterson and Scott hall having sex! Its true

[@kaybee328]

Chad Foster how do you know?

[@jabrockobiden9434]

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