Why 2017X Is One Of The Most Unique Sonic.EXEs - Subterfuge lyrics Explained

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Wanted to try something a little different today, so if you guys like these videos let me know!!! I really have had fun looking into EXEs, and for some reason sonic.exe interest me!
The Song With Lyrics: • SUBTERFUGE WITH LYRICS...
Creator Of 2017X: Raven
Original Subterfuge: Honkish/Judas
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@cool_guy_1.e4071
@cool_guy_1.e4071 3 ай бұрын
Sonic the hedgehog: hey you you kinda look like me 2017 X:"mental breakdown noises"
@matheuspires2462
@matheuspires2462 3 ай бұрын
*there can be only one of us*
@khenanaqlan6909
@khenanaqlan6909 3 ай бұрын
There is only one Sonic...
@matheuspires2462
@matheuspires2462 3 ай бұрын
@@khenanaqlan6909 "this town ain't big enough for 2 of us"
@logangoodwin451
@logangoodwin451 3 ай бұрын
"WHY ARE YOU ME" 2017 x
@owenmyers6710
@owenmyers6710 3 ай бұрын
lore wise he killed tails when he was talking about sonic and he x isnt sonic
@ariel2179
@ariel2179 3 ай бұрын
The fact that 2017x chose the 06 era will never not be funny
@matheuspires2462
@matheuspires2462 3 ай бұрын
He got weird game taste I feel like he just chose it to replace sonic in the Elise kiss scene
@ariel2179
@ariel2179 3 ай бұрын
@@matheuspires2462 LMFAO
@toastedprocastinator
@toastedprocastinator 3 ай бұрын
​@@matheuspires2462 2017X a FREAK. 🔥👅🔥
@matheuspires2462
@matheuspires2462 3 ай бұрын
@@toastedprocastinator no wonder he turned into a freaky meme
@heitorsant1759
@heitorsant1759 3 ай бұрын
​​@@matheuspires2462"HEY!!! HEY MISS!!!! YOU DROPPED YOUR WALLET MISS!!!! GET BACK HERE!!!! IT'S ME SONIC T. HEDGEHOG!!!!"
@brandonboswell3625
@brandonboswell3625 3 ай бұрын
2017x is low key one of my favorites, like hes just an extreme sonic fanboy while still being a sadistic entity
@СемёнЮгов-в7ю
@СемёнЮгов-в7ю 3 ай бұрын
He is a sonic LARPer
@VicoX-u9m
@VicoX-u9m 3 ай бұрын
This description also applies to 2011x and Lord X, btw.
@Sonicmort5885
@Sonicmort5885 3 ай бұрын
He's not a fanboy, hes delusional kinda. He thinks he's sonic.
@Sonicmort5885
@Sonicmort5885 3 ай бұрын
​@@VicoX-u9mit mostly applies to X in general
@VicoX-u9m
@VicoX-u9m 3 ай бұрын
@@Sonicmort5885 knew it. So to make everyone in complete agreement. Xenophanes is the one who chose Sonic because he was popular; X and Lord X are the fanboys; “Sonic” is the delusional maniac that thinks he’s Sonic and will kill you if you tell him otherwise; EXE/Faker, Bandado and Sally_ALT are the haters of the fanboys. Did I get that right?
@FutileStruggleofaBoulder
@FutileStruggleofaBoulder 3 ай бұрын
Its fun to think that 2017x left the void because EXE and Lord X kept trying to tell him in a therapy like manner that he isnt the real sonic and 2017x just having a mental breakdown before he just decides to leave entirely
@matheuspires2462
@matheuspires2462 3 ай бұрын
@@FutileStruggleofaBoulder imagine the exes make a intervention in a therapy circle to convince him he's not Sonic
@FutileStruggleofaBoulder
@FutileStruggleofaBoulder 3 ай бұрын
@@matheuspires2462 And Lord X would try to explain to him that theres a difference in "Liking Sonic" and "deluding yourself into thinking you ARE sonic"
@matheuspires2462
@matheuspires2462 3 ай бұрын
@@FutileStruggleofaBoulder yeah
@yeetman2610gaming
@yeetman2610gaming 3 ай бұрын
2011 is lord x
@KelOmorireal-g1j
@KelOmorireal-g1j 2 ай бұрын
That’s the only thing I could make out when I watched this in Russian I watched ten minutes of fucking sonic in russian
@serafinjuncamposano3231
@serafinjuncamposano3231 3 ай бұрын
Why 2017X is the most unique Sonic.EXE “Is it because he’s naked?”
@Davidsevasti
@Davidsevasti 2 ай бұрын
he Just doesnt Has Shoes. EVERY SONIC IS NAKED-
@Glacial_floofs
@Glacial_floofs 2 ай бұрын
​@@Davidsevasti no gloves either
@seeicouldneverdothat
@seeicouldneverdothat 2 ай бұрын
@@Davidsevasti i feel like having shoes means your feet aren't naked... so you aren't COMPLETELY naked
@J.V.Aandothers
@J.V.Aandothers Ай бұрын
That’s kinda the reason I don’t really like him, there’s nothing wrong with the character, but if he puts some shoes then there wouldn’t be an issue
@Marblesoda821
@Marblesoda821 Ай бұрын
​@@Davidsevasti Mf name a SINGLE Sonic character who has gone without both gloves AND shoes. Sonic is known for both, so for him to wear *neither* means that he is indeed naked Not only that, but his bare hands and feet look weird as Hell, like Jesus Christ man somebody get this mf the shoes and gloves Sonic wore in Sonic 06 or something, because if he wants to make people believe he is Sonic, then maybe wearing gloves and shoes would help, but nah he is going full commando with things that nobody wants to see
@delusionalartist_08
@delusionalartist_08 3 ай бұрын
Oh btw just to let you know 2017X’s Lyrics in the Subterfuge song, Near the end he says “Death defying, Redefining, Now i see the SILVER lining.” Which is a direct reference to the 2017X story where one of his main victims becomes Silver The Hedgehog. Aswell as the rest of the song’s lyrics talk about how 2017X feels on tails Shunning him and refusing that he is sonic. Its a extremely deep sonic the more you look into the lyrics and meaning. Sturm is a GENIUS
@dylan85guy
@dylan85guy 3 ай бұрын
raven wrote the lyrics
@Agent-John
@Agent-John 3 ай бұрын
*Raven is a GENIUS.
@delusionalartist_08
@delusionalartist_08 2 ай бұрын
@@Agent-John Oh yeah my bad
@sboy2044
@sboy2044 3 ай бұрын
2017 X’s owner, Raven, made a thread explaining all of the lyrics in Subterfuge. It’s linked in the trivia section of the wiki page
@soufianegamerpro
@soufianegamerpro 3 ай бұрын
2017X is basically the most delusional exe of all time and it works for him, like if he meets the real sonic he won't just be like: NO I AM THE REAL SONIC, but he'll have a mental breakdown since he knows inside that he is not the real sonic, he is basically like what people think when they hear a sonic fan
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 Ай бұрын
Imagine a conversation between him and Metal Sonic.
@Tiability
@Tiability 11 сағат бұрын
​@@autobotstarscream765they would just kill eachother
@gamer-IRIS36
@gamer-IRIS36 3 ай бұрын
2017x is so well done he's making his way as a meme in the normal Sonic fandom
@gamer-IRIS36
@gamer-IRIS36 3 ай бұрын
also a future EXE game is going to feature him as a playable killer (Outcome Memories)
@TETANUS.
@TETANUS. Ай бұрын
He became the symbol of freakiness in the exe community off of one GIF
@TheKriegsmen
@TheKriegsmen 3 ай бұрын
I am a huge fan of 2017X for a lot of the reasons you listed. But my favorite parts about him such as his Story and Personality, is his interaction with other Sonic Characters. There is a surprising lot of so no s where he facing more then the main cast.
@Duncachi
@Duncachi 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! Might do a follow up on the interactions 2017X has with the cast, I’ve heard about the relationship between him and Amy and it’s kinda adorable ngl
@TheKriegsmen
@TheKriegsmen 3 ай бұрын
@@Duncachi Well from only what I know about here on KZbin, ( really haven’t done much Googling on 2017X’s interactions) there are Two songs that I know of where he deals with characters. The first is called “Petrified” and it’s where poor cream happens to stumble upon ‘Sonic’. The other one is called “Tremor” where it see’s Silver pit up against him. Know I would like to remind these are fan made songs about 2017X that aren’t A part of Legacy, but I think they still fit his character well even if they don’t have much of a story.
@TheKriegsmen
@TheKriegsmen 3 ай бұрын
Oh and I almost forgot, I wanted to leave some recommendations on other sonics. The ones you might get a kick out of are Faker, (If you like Lord X a bunch, he did make this guy) Hog, (Think of this guy a new take on Faker, yet still different) and All Father, (This one apparently claims to be the Father of all EXE’s, I found him interesting.) I love watching BF your content man, like a breathe of fresh air to me. Keep doing what you love!
@Illager22
@Illager22 12 күн бұрын
​@@Duncachi Please do Hog. I have one of his lore saved on my Google Drive if you need it, though I don't know if it's outdated or not
@Illager22
@Illager22 12 күн бұрын
Hog is also my favorite EXE cause floof
@TheRealSonic_2017x
@TheRealSonic_2017x 2 ай бұрын
Sonic T. Hedgehog: "hey-" 2017x: *family guy death pose*
@Ey-1w
@Ey-1w 3 ай бұрын
2017x is when there is a character in a game/show that you like so much you base your personality entirely off of it
@Natedawgg2013
@Natedawgg2013 Ай бұрын
“Who’s this sonic guy?” *2 minutes later* “I’m sonic now guys”
@liammogus6483
@liammogus6483 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the line, “I’ll make you play along in time with me” sounds like 2017x is telling tails That he may hit believe he’s Sonic now, but 2017x will force him to believe he’s Sonic through force. He will make tails play along with him in time.
@coolioman9073
@coolioman9073 3 ай бұрын
"Sonic through force"
@TheBlueBarkman
@TheBlueBarkman 3 ай бұрын
@@coolioman9073sonic force WAIT NO NO NO
@stardan0862
@stardan0862 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBlueBarkman*YOURE GOING BACK TO SONIC FORCES LITTLE BOY* 😈
@spider-soniczilla2989
@spider-soniczilla2989 2 ай бұрын
​​@@stardan0862 Michael, don't leave me here....MICHAEL!!!!
@deviledonions
@deviledonions Ай бұрын
@@coolioman9073”Sonic… this whole 2017x situation is terrible. It’s like HE always has the master plan. Sonic, we’re going to have join forces.”
@ffFluffyBoy
@ffFluffyBoy 7 күн бұрын
5:16 “BEST FRIEND” the arm movement was somehow perfect 😂
@spider-soniczilla2989
@spider-soniczilla2989 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I could see 2017X with some tweaks being introduced as a new Sonic villan. Like a new powerful and ancient entity becomes obsessed with Sonic, captures his friends and trys to replace the real Sonic, has a breakdown and trys to kill everyone when Sonic finds them? Yeah that sounds like something Sonic would face.
@yeetman2610gaming
@yeetman2610gaming Ай бұрын
Metal sonic but he’s sadistic?
@giulianopisciottano8302
@giulianopisciottano8302 2 күн бұрын
​@yeetman2610gaming literally just neo metal Sonic. Except the whole making friends part
@dandeechannel4973
@dandeechannel4973 14 күн бұрын
4:34-4:40 Bro you sounded in this moment SO MUCH like a Sonic that's actually scary in the context lmao
@dylanstephens524
@dylanstephens524 Ай бұрын
The way I see it 2017x is like the sonic version of those characters/plots in shows where one character is hypnotised to be someone else. That or he's got a similar thing to metal sonic, who we find out when he becomes metal overlord, believes himself to be sonic. He thinks he is the real sonic and that makes 2017x honesty more cool since he'd probably have actually conflict with metal sonic over this. Such a cool exe and great job explaining him!
@mariothehedgehoggaming5306
@mariothehedgehoggaming5306 3 ай бұрын
Imma be real,I see 2017 X being in an official sonic game,his a rare one without blood,i think his lore is still a wip but we still got enough of him to learn the character,and whats funny,is that he made it outside the exe and sonic fandom, which is funny as hell in my opinion,not even rewrite had that treatment lol
@funmuuh
@funmuuh 3 ай бұрын
Give him shoes and gloves and a different back story and it would prob work
@I_LoveRetroStuff
@I_LoveRetroStuff 3 ай бұрын
0:22 dude looks majestic
@LIGHTITUP4EVER
@LIGHTITUP4EVER 3 ай бұрын
2017x will literally never get old for me. He is one of my personal favorites, and even though a few come close, I think he is the most goofy and cool.
@queengorgo1440
@queengorgo1440 3 күн бұрын
I especially love the “Wacky” version of Subterfuge where 2017x is singing along with Dahlia, who is struggling with being confident with singing. 2017x genuinely helps her and says “aren’t you glad your buddy Sonic is here to help you?” and shows no hostility towards her cuz at no point does she contradict him or deny his fantasy of being Sonic. Towards the end of the song he cracks, revealing his true nature, which he does when at an emotional state (usually in agitation and anger at being denied). Here though, he is genuinely happy and cracks because he is having such a good time. On a final note, when the song ends x exclaims happily “You’re very good at this!” To Dahlia
@ToadetteTails6969
@ToadetteTails6969 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: There are actually *3* leitmotifs in Subterfuge. There's Silly Billy, which is quite an obvious motif, as it's front and center. Tails, near the end sings "His World." In retaliation, however, 2017 X sings "Fatality" (Fatal Error's song in Sonic.EXE 3.0). Tails singing His World might be him referencing what the REAL Sonic would do to his friends. 2017 X singing Fatality in response to Tails' His World motif is literally X saying Tails made a fatal error in thinking he's not Sonic.
@StuartTomarUffleman
@StuartTomarUffleman 2 ай бұрын
more like silly billy has a subterfuge motif since subterfuge came first
@DustedDustSans
@DustedDustSans Ай бұрын
@@StuartTomarUfflemanreal
@AwesomeGamer-om4hm
@AwesomeGamer-om4hm 18 күн бұрын
I thought the His World part is meant to be a nod to how "Sonic" bases his game off the Dark Age, especially '06.
@GooberAnimatesOhMyGod
@GooberAnimatesOhMyGod Ай бұрын
I could see 2017X as an escaped creature egg man made from chaos emeralds, it gets a conscious and watches and stalks sonic and wants to be him, forcing himself to be sonic. that would be PEAK.
@agentthree82
@agentthree82 3 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn’t cover the fact that “Sonic” will brainwash the victims he comes into contact with to play the roles of their respective character.
@logangoodwin451
@logangoodwin451 3 ай бұрын
where are you getting all this lore
@agentthree82
@agentthree82 3 ай бұрын
@@logangoodwin451 From the wiki of course
@logangoodwin451
@logangoodwin451 3 ай бұрын
@@agentthree82 ah ok
@bruh-bm9jr
@bruh-bm9jr 3 ай бұрын
5:16 DON'T YOU GET IT!? SONIC'S BEST FRIEND IS TAILS! ME!!!
@Duncachi
@Duncachi 3 ай бұрын
@@bruh-bm9jr mashed tails fr That’s an interesting interaction Tails is obsessed with sonic Sonic is obsessed with sonic 🤔
@bruh-bm9jr
@bruh-bm9jr 3 ай бұрын
@@Duncachi wait bro you actually got a point there, we have to see that interaction 😭
@addictedperson
@addictedperson 3 ай бұрын
@@bruh-bm9jrsomeone drew that interaction and its just “Sonic” saying “This guy is NOT my friend.”
@GoDofthegrapes
@GoDofthegrapes 3 ай бұрын
I got theory What if SH/mashed tails is “Sonic’s” tails they have lots of similarities
@vortiger7375
@vortiger7375 Ай бұрын
If those two ever met it would be chaos
@FreddFrost_Boy094
@FreddFrost_Boy094 3 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: 2017X is so obsessed with Sonic the Hedgehog that it surpasses X's level of obsession.
@GogurtSatoru-u5d
@GogurtSatoru-u5d 3 ай бұрын
i think what he meant by "whats the point, in playing make-believe?" is that he thinks tails is making up that he isnt sonic, cause, of course, he directly believes he IS sonic
@rodentOfficial
@rodentOfficial 3 ай бұрын
2017X was always my favorite his story and lore was always so unique.
@CocoPuff2
@CocoPuff2 2 ай бұрын
Sonic the hedgehog: HEY WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR DOING FAKER? 2017 X: Uhhh (FUCKING DIES)
@hysterical5408
@hysterical5408 3 ай бұрын
I've said this on a different video but I'll say it here as well I think a cool way of making an EXE unique is to not make the EXE a supernatural entity, but instead from some psychotic kid's imagination. Imagine playing an EXE game where you're a father trying to connect with your son, who likes making sonic romhacks. So you play one of them, only to discover your son's using the romhacks to play out his violent fantasies. Characters are renamed to people you know the Son doesn't like, a school bully, a former friend... and then you. At the end you find out your son is using the romhack to plan out something he wants to do in real life.
@Duncachi
@Duncachi 3 ай бұрын
This concept is pretty interesting! I think there’s a lot of freedom and ideas people can utilize, and I hope to see more unique exes in future sonic or not!
@saucequest31
@saucequest31 3 ай бұрын
2017X IS MY FAV EXE!!! So glad you talked abt him!
@nikoshalamandaris9025
@nikoshalamandaris9025 3 ай бұрын
Same
@thegoldenmario-eq3kl
@thegoldenmario-eq3kl 3 ай бұрын
Its cool to see how passionated and his enthusiasm in all da video, its very cool, thanks for presenting me Sonic the hedgehog lol
@Duncachi
@Duncachi 3 ай бұрын
Expect plenty more to come! Glad you enjoyed it, I have a lot of fun with these videos!
@voydbite
@voydbite 3 ай бұрын
From what I know... The Silly Billy part was always meant to be from Silly Billy, and it was such a banger combo of music that Subertufuge borrowed it. However, Subterfuge was finished earlier, and so it also released earlier, but the "Silly Billy" part is from Silly Billy.
@Scphotsause
@Scphotsause 3 ай бұрын
no it came from subterfuge sillybilly borrowed it from subterfuge
@shrubbzoffical
@shrubbzoffical 3 ай бұрын
Subterfuge was made and released before Silly Billy, and sturm made lyrics for it. He liked the lyrics in one part so he added it to silly billy. Then Subterfuge with lyrics came out and silly billy came out a month or 2 later.
@PKR_92
@PKR_92 3 ай бұрын
uh no
@Agent-John
@Agent-John 3 ай бұрын
Sturm wouldn’t credit Honkish for Subterfuge’s motif if that was the case.
@ascrinkleyfellow
@ascrinkleyfellow 2 ай бұрын
Subterfuge, like the actual fnf song subterfuge was made before the version gurgney created, the beat you recognize as “silly Billy” ‘s originally comes from an fnf mod not actually related to churgney.
@Akai-Mushii
@Akai-Mushii 3 ай бұрын
bro is THE subterfuge expert
@willatom
@willatom 2 ай бұрын
Also the fact that he says "SEE, MY BUDDY! ITS ONLY ME!" meanwhile he turns into his "broken" form is horrifying.
@Hatred_in_Your_mind
@Hatred_in_Your_mind Ай бұрын
YOURE OL PAL SONIC WILL WATCH YOU FLEE!!
@SystemHijack-d8d
@SystemHijack-d8d 14 күн бұрын
​@@Hatred_in_Your_mindBURNING UP TILL ALL ARE ONE, YET ME YOU SHUN!!!!
@Alter106
@Alter106 3 ай бұрын
Imagine an interaction with 2017x and something about tails…
@Duncachi
@Duncachi 3 ай бұрын
Honestly would be really interesting!
@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te
@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te 3 ай бұрын
Oh boy that would go 1 of 2 ways Path 1: tails freaks out and set’s 2017x off, likely causing their deaths Path 2: tails amy and knuckles all accept him as an actual sonic version + he joins the team
@logangoodwin451
@logangoodwin451 3 ай бұрын
@@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te probably path 1 unless he noticed this in advance
@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te
@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te 3 ай бұрын
@@logangoodwin451 yeah probably
@lorddumb21
@lorddumb21 2 ай бұрын
​@@dubstepsoundwave-yo8te Depends if tails is picky of who he considers his best friend, also he might kill knuckles and amy
@RogerVers1
@RogerVers1 3 ай бұрын
so 2017x is a entity that think that he is sonic that also will have a breakdown if he sees sonic and is appalled that tails does not recognise him
@NanaKim67
@NanaKim67 3 күн бұрын
It did sound like silly Billy it’s so cool add the part when he said you die with me it sound like you come with me
@purpleoctoling6929
@purpleoctoling6929 3 ай бұрын
2017x sees sonic and comedically explodes
@lavajr
@lavajr 3 ай бұрын
why is sonic telling me stuff about "sonic" (surprisingly you actually sound like sonic in some parts while talking, i found it funny 😭)
@JesterSpace84
@JesterSpace84 3 ай бұрын
"SONIC is tails best friend!" *MASHED flashbacks*
@stonesteves
@stonesteves 3 ай бұрын
some things I'd like to point out 1:49, x's power traits are still viewable in him, esspecially his true form. But becaues of his obsession with being sonic, he's limited to only knowing what sonic can do and not what he can do. This is also why he has a true form, it's his proclein skin cracking open what's inside of his shell 5:44 yes, it was infact Subterfuge then Silly billy then Subterfuge with lyrics 6:12, he's so delusional in his beliefs that he thinks he's right and anyone who defys him are merely the broken ones and he can fix, which is why tails is being called the Naive one. 7:49 correct, his only weakness is mental strengh and not physical, he can't be logically killed in a fight due to him still inhebiditing x's powers (unless he's fighting a foe that matches his powers like for example lord x or exe/faker) but even then it's merely hard to break through his mind Hopefully this is useful enough to explain
@CarlosDaRyza
@CarlosDaRyza 3 ай бұрын
As a autistic kid 2017x is literally breaking my mind. Is that there's other ones like mario or the black and white sonic figure holding the ring and play subterfuge The design itself is so simple and the way he smile makes me laugh every time Especially in roblox And I love this one video "YOU DROP YOUR WALLET"
@matheuspires2462
@matheuspires2462 3 ай бұрын
"HEY MISS YOU DROPPED YOUR WALLET"
@CarlosDaRyza
@CarlosDaRyza 3 ай бұрын
@@matheuspires2462 GET BACK HERE!!
@StuartTomarUffleman
@StuartTomarUffleman 2 ай бұрын
someone help me!!!!
@HARDBRISK
@HARDBRISK 3 ай бұрын
i have finally found my people, im gonna cry
@Wassuppeepers
@Wassuppeepers Ай бұрын
I did NOT expect finding a hardbrisk comment here
@Thejayone962
@Thejayone962 3 ай бұрын
1:42 just a little correction on this statement. Sonic.exe's backstory since his inception by jc has always been that he was a creature born from the void, 2011X, Lord X, "Sonic" etc are all just using that lore as a base for the characters
@madnessdarkness5818
@madnessdarkness5818 3 ай бұрын
Love 2017x. I will say his game isn't necessarily Sonic 06 but has some elements to it 😂. On another note I am pretty sure "tails" isn't even tails to begin with either just someone 2017x saw playing his game and said, "Yes, you are tails, my best friend." Man I can't wait for his and Xenophanes stories to be complete. They are my top 2 favorites personally.
@Duncachi
@Duncachi 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, just read a bit on the wiki and saw 06 and I’m like “why-“ I mean? I liked the sonic portions in the game! But that game is- an experience to say the least Honestly him being that delusional makes sense! Can’t wait to hear the rest of it, sonic legacy is gonna be peak too!!
@madnessdarkness5818
@madnessdarkness5818 3 ай бұрын
@@Duncachi True Legacy is gonna live up to the name.
@madnessdarkness5818
@madnessdarkness5818 3 ай бұрын
@Duncachi random suggestion but you should play phantasm encore it's amazing
@v0rbxv244
@v0rbxv244 3 ай бұрын
Currently I am xenophanes biggest hater after the events of too slow, you cant run, and triple trouble. The fact that he lost bf and even crashed out over it so bad he transformed like a super sayain just for his slaves to be set free and for him to loose pisses me off. So like you I cant wait for his story to complete, and I cant wait to see what sonic legacy does with him.
@madnessdarkness5818
@madnessdarkness5818 3 ай бұрын
@v0rbxv244 Technically, that was not actually Xenophanes. It was stated by Raven that it was more of a representation of Sonic.exe as a whole and a thing of showing how Sonic.exe has changed over the years. She also strictly said that it was more of Rightburst's creation than Shei's. Sadly, he won't have any representation in Legacy due to Shei not wanting to be associated with fnf anymore after all the drama that happened in vs sonic.exe.
@Indo-raptor
@Indo-raptor 3 ай бұрын
Lowkey, you sound like Sonic, which had me more intrigued in the video
@HotdogBro12
@HotdogBro12 3 ай бұрын
Bro is the definition of "bro though hes sonic"😭🙏
@TherealGoku-real
@TherealGoku-real 3 ай бұрын
Sonic 2017 or pale hedgehog is in his désillusion of him thinking he’s the actual sonic the hedgehog and everybody that disagree with him is the problem so if you play along in his désillusion he more chill but that doesn’t mean is not violent
@duo23288
@duo23288 3 ай бұрын
Basically, If you want to surivive 2017 Just say he's sonic and don't doubt him at all...
@CaffeineQuestion
@CaffeineQuestion 3 ай бұрын
Mashed tails and 2017x would probably be besties
@kmidu4137
@kmidu4137 3 ай бұрын
*song starts* "%*@#&%)(*@" ... "that line is honestly SOO fire" brother what 😭🙏
@milo-kz1pi
@milo-kz1pi 2 ай бұрын
Bro even said “I don’t know what it is”😭😭😭
@wholetthisguyontheinternet
@wholetthisguyontheinternet Ай бұрын
blawg how can you NOT hear what he's saying
@kmidu4137
@kmidu4137 Ай бұрын
@@wholetthisguyontheinternet you *are* joking right?
@wholetthisguyontheinternet
@wholetthisguyontheinternet Ай бұрын
@kmidu4137 *YOU'RE* kidding, correct?
@kmidu4137
@kmidu4137 Ай бұрын
@@wholetthisguyontheinternet nah nah nah *YOU* are making a joke, yes?
@turtwigproductions9928
@turtwigproductions9928 3 ай бұрын
Original subterfuge by Honkish was made first, then silly billy was made, then Subterfuge with lyrics was made. Hope this helps.
@SpookerScaryGhosty
@SpookerScaryGhosty 3 ай бұрын
Silly Billy was made AFTER Subterfuge, Subterfuge was firy
@turtwigproductions9928
@turtwigproductions9928 3 ай бұрын
@ ? I said subterfuge was made first, Then silly Billy was made Then subterfuge with lyrics was made last. That’s the order of how they were produced. Silly Billy was publicly released after subterfuge with lyrics was due to production of hit single taking longer. I hope was more clear this time.
@Scorching_Redcliff
@Scorching_Redcliff Ай бұрын
5:16 how was that sync so perfect
@michaellennerman7844
@michaellennerman7844 3 ай бұрын
4:44: these are my favorite lyrics in the song.
@v0rbxv244
@v0rbxv244 3 ай бұрын
How I make it simpler for me is that Allfather is the first exe. 2011x was his first transformation and "child" and so on and so forth with 2017x to scrimbo to omt to xenophanes. For Lord X, I think of him as a separate being from the all father, hence how they made Exe or faker. and for other exes that dont fall in line with allfather (requital, fatal error, etc.) their stories explains how they came to be. I know this isnt canon since allfather isnt canon, but its the simpliest way I can make it for myself
@Mekko4dev
@Mekko4dev 3 ай бұрын
“Cold, So Cold” 🗣️🔥
@Cuboid-Menace
@Cuboid-Menace 3 ай бұрын
“Truth be told” 🗣️ 🔥
@goldenfoxy1682
@goldenfoxy1682 3 ай бұрын
Yes, it was passed down. It used to be called eye to an eye in the original first sonic.EX mod but silly Billy and subterfuge went their separate ways. And yeah, they became their own songs. 5:58
@bluekzx
@bluekzx 3 ай бұрын
you forgot to say for mortis that he is a 2011 that was gonna tred the path of the Lord X but got his powers taken away from him and left to grow with the victims that he tortured
@bluekzx
@bluekzx 3 ай бұрын
also Don't know if you know this but Mortis is a Cannon Timeline to Lord X contanuity
@bluekzx
@bluekzx 3 ай бұрын
Also Raven on Twitter actually broke the song down with additional info on Twitter
@tymunhe4524
@tymunhe4524 3 ай бұрын
I mean I love 2017x but I love both of the Rewrites there really cool to me but this a really great video .
@ascrinkleyfellow
@ascrinkleyfellow 3 ай бұрын
FINALLY SUBTERFUGE CONTENT
@lazyskellymansapit7336
@lazyskellymansapit7336 Ай бұрын
i know im 2 months late, but i just wanted to mention it was bold to make a video about just regular sonic.
@cherrypopscile3385
@cherrypopscile3385 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see some insane version of this guy fighting off a different .exe. Like, imagine he somehow winds up in Lord Xs realm, sees him attacking tails for the umptillionth time, and decides "I gotta save him!" And getting into an insane battle.
@SamuelLopez-x1z
@SamuelLopez-x1z 3 ай бұрын
LORD X: X WHAT IS GOOD MY BROTHERIN X: AEEEEE MY BROTHERIN
@extraonions
@extraonions Ай бұрын
1:22 ...so he's christen western chandler... but way less evil
@doomlord0773
@doomlord0773 3 ай бұрын
For some reason i used to think 2017x's game he possessed was sonic06
@mathewhurst-e9q
@mathewhurst-e9q 2 ай бұрын
2017x: I AM SONIC I AM SONIC I AM I AM SONIC
@Leon-wolfren
@Leon-wolfren 3 ай бұрын
2017 is literally the reboot of the exe by JC back in 2017
@irismoinson4729
@irismoinson4729 25 күн бұрын
7:42 “I am not flawed I can’t be !!!”
@thecuph3adchannel773
@thecuph3adchannel773 Ай бұрын
i like how he sounds like one of those IGN people
@exalpergames90
@exalpergames90 3 ай бұрын
I do like him, but there is one thing that I kind of have a problem with, and that is that his design is just kind of a nothing burger. Which could’ve been fine, I do like minimalistic designs, but 2017 kinda feels minimalistic in the wrong way. Not sure what it is, but he kinda just looks like a beta design for Werehog Sonic.
@DeNova84
@DeNova84 10 күн бұрын
All of this sounds very similar to metal sonic.
@pancake4354
@pancake4354 Ай бұрын
I feel like a big reason why 2017X is really good is that its actually a character
@ParisSmith-sl2ct
@ParisSmith-sl2ct 3 ай бұрын
6:10 I think what 2017x is tryna say is that it would be so pointless to try to trick tails, and why to believe that he is the real sonic.
@Inkrack
@Inkrack 28 күн бұрын
The only EXE that can ACTUALLY fit into Sonic's canon.
@Xenelliel
@Xenelliel Ай бұрын
Icl when he said "so fire" i already know he was tryna not say so cold since 2017x said it twice
@OrangeBones489
@OrangeBones489 3 ай бұрын
I would have died laughing if this video was 20 minutes and 17 seconds long
@X_Sonic2017
@X_Sonic2017 3 ай бұрын
Hey look duncachi is talking about me
@irismoinson4729
@irismoinson4729 25 күн бұрын
4:45 these lyrics are my favorite
@bad_pilot13official
@bad_pilot13official Ай бұрын
2017x is pretty cool but honestly Rewrite is still my favorite EXE by far with the cool redesigns of Sonic (Rewrite), Tails, and Knuckles. Also Rewrites sheer power is also pretty cool considering the fact he’s trapped Sonic.EXE (Xenophanes? I think?), Majin, and Lord X. Even combining Majin and Sonic.EXE, for fun I guess. Also Trinity is a peak song.
@t0nyxaka90
@t0nyxaka90 3 ай бұрын
One thing you missed that was pointed out to me by a friend of mine is that in the final verse, "silver" in "NOW I SEE THE SILVER LINING" has been marked with a different font. This is most likely in reference to Silver the Hedgehog, one of the characters in 2006, but also possibly one of the victims of 2017X.
@Nightmare-jo3mz
@Nightmare-jo3mz 3 ай бұрын
Video title : 2017X is the most unique sonic exe (I can't accept that people consider the name of the game and the stories about 2011X to be his name). Meanwhile exetior, sonic OMT, all father, lord mortis and other : 👏🗿🗿🗿🗿
@AweAtWork
@AweAtWork 3 ай бұрын
OMT and The All Father are literally retakes that don't really change anything OMT is like "OooOOOooOOo I'm sonic.exe but with shapeshifting powers and apparently i'm supposed to be the og exe but i'm actually not so that's pretty confusing" The all father is more like "I'm sonic.exe and the only thing that's different about me is the fact that i am the """father""" of all the exes, exes that are not even the original ones but retakes on them so the original owners don't get mad at me" I don't have any beef with exetior, he's fine Actually i don't have beef with any exe but yeahhh i gotta admit they are not that unique
@Nightmare-jo3mz
@Nightmare-jo3mz 3 ай бұрын
@@AweAtWork Sonic OMT in his canon prevented the birth of 2011Х literally . and the allfather is an alternative version of 2011X, which is unique in its own way, given that Lord x is the only one who is an offshoot of the canon, all the other "exe" are imitators of OG X..
@QuiteFunnyIsnt1t
@QuiteFunnyIsnt1t 3 ай бұрын
All father is very unique along side Lord Mortis! but ehh..omt not really, his ok but not spectacular besides the pixel art. and dude dont put EXETIOR WITH THEM HIS GENUINELY A PIECE OF CARDBOARD
@windows98alpha35
@windows98alpha35 3 ай бұрын
It's honestly pathetic how OMT is so ignored given how good his games actually are. I get people are sick of 2011 Sonic.exe's story being retold but you can't just sit here and act like OMT doesn't have more to him on his end. Not to mention his game is pretty damn unique compared to the others. But it is what it is.
@sboy2044
@sboy2044 3 ай бұрын
2017 X isn’t the name of any game though?
@Jamesthehedgehog-k5l
@Jamesthehedgehog-k5l Ай бұрын
I just noticed this, but 2017 looks extremely similar to Shadows' original design tereos.
@lochlanbell1266
@lochlanbell1266 3 ай бұрын
I made an entity named Trinity, don't think it'd be considered an EXE.
@Rickzak2560
@Rickzak2560 3 ай бұрын
Thank god for explaining i was like who is this exe anyways just a weird hedgehog again thanks 👍🌟
@AubreyGal
@AubreyGal Ай бұрын
thank god alepie gonna be making 2017x kino
@Maximus2629
@Maximus2629 2 ай бұрын
An angel fallen amidst heaven, An god who wanted to play hero, now he will die like one (from delusions of grandeur)
@Terry-u7o
@Terry-u7o 5 күн бұрын
This character got more popular when he started chasing pillars
@Billyknights_Roblox
@Billyknights_Roblox 3 ай бұрын
I know it’s been 2 years but sonic eyx is still staying as in the top 3 of best sonic exes
@sccpnv
@sccpnv 10 күн бұрын
I feel like he'll probably protect Tails from other exe's
@Hollarite
@Hollarite Ай бұрын
I never knew Sonic.exe would make a comeback
@InkyBoiArts
@InkyBoiArts 2 ай бұрын
I think 2017 is so interesting to a lot of people is because he falls under the idea of ‘the guy who just wants people to see him the way he sees himself’ that a lot of people love, kind of like that PS1 guy from Smiling Friends Also unrelated, I like to think that EXE (or Faker) see each other as brothers (coming from the same creator- Lord X- and everything) EXE is more mentally put together, he’s just really angry and hates almost everything, but he has a soft spot for his mentally ill older brother (as 2017x canonically came first before EXE)
@CacaCabra
@CacaCabra 3 ай бұрын
SO FOLLOW ME INTO THE SEARING HEAT BREAK THE SILENCE, UNDERNEATH THE SHEET KNOW I'VE SET IN STONE, THE ORDER PEPPERED ENVY, PAIN AND HORROR 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️💯💯
@SamuelLopez-x1z
@SamuelLopez-x1z 3 ай бұрын
I'm guessing that Lord x in this version of Sonic and since they're both from the same dimension I'm guessing they're Brothers in some way
@tootssebree
@tootssebree Ай бұрын
I think the you die with me was the line that four from bfb says in his song
@josephboyer3130
@josephboyer3130 3 ай бұрын
subterfuge came out in around march, hitsingle came out around april from what ive found.
@xzhad0wx
@xzhad0wx 20 күн бұрын
Honestly if I were Tails in this situation my overall plan to get away from 2017x would be that I would try to stand being around him for a couple of days after he takes over Sonic and then I'd tell him some random made up story that he wouldn't know about like "Hey, Sonic...Knuckles told me a secret yesterday and it's that about a year ago you flirted with Rouge and tempted her to go on a date with you and you cheated on Amy. Not cool man. We're not friends anymore." Walk away and problem solved! It's not telling him that he's not Sonic or anything so it should work XD
@Simon_the_sprunki-s5f
@Simon_the_sprunki-s5f 3 ай бұрын
bro when I found out about 2017x I was like: HOLY MOLY DIS MAN IS BEAUTIFUL IM GONNA MAKE HIM MY OC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Calebgamble
@Calebgamble 3 ай бұрын
Subterfuge mod came out before silly billy but the lyrics from Subterfuge did not the mod did but the lyrics after silly billy
@BigChoso
@BigChoso 3 ай бұрын
So basically this guy is a crashout
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