Why A 14-Year-Old Brutally Killed His Mum With A Hammer | Murderers & Their Mothers | Absolute Crime

[@debrapahl7573]

Oh come on ! They used to blame schizophrenia on mothers!

[@Virginnia]

Where was his Father? Buying a new i-mac...big deal. Fathers need to be an active, constant presence.

[@polkadots716]

Yes! He didn't even have a father figure in his stepfather, who felt it wasn't his place to discipline Daniel. There was a total lack of discipline in Daniel's childhood during a critical time in his psychological development, resulting in a lack of conscience.

[@margaretzoheir4468]

16 years isn't long enough. He will be 30 or thereabouts when released, and could go on to do this again.

[@sansserif8839]

A psychopath is always a psychopath.

[@Kirt44]

True

[@TheKingThewidowandRick777]

I doubt it.

[@boundsgreenboy8354]

Delusional

[@pikkonama8858]

If he is release in 2028, they will give him a new identity and start all over.

[@amapola53]

A young murderer, means he'll be worse when he geta older.

[@wannabehick5221]

See that’s not always the case though in this situation I would agree but psychopathic and sociopathic behaviours sometimes drastically decline in later years of life from late fifty’s on and some Serial killers have stopped killing completely in there later years of life if they never got caught.

[@jer333able]

Where in the world was his father in this hot mess?

[@tina.a.59]

🤬 So now mothers are the only guilty ones ??? 🤬 WTF 🤬

[@savantianprince]

It sounds like the mom was preoccupied with her new partner than the kids Who knows?

[@lynanne354]

Yes we get the blame for everything!!

[@elcapitan667]

Why keep suggesting his mother maybe to blame..? Sounds like he blamed his mother for seperating/divorcing his dad!

[@OneBadAssMoMo]

I’ve been waiting on someone to deep dive this one. Thanks guys!

[@immiewithers6638]

I really dislike the blame being put on the mother here

[@cynthiatolman326]

This child was showing how dangerous he was becoming, and his mother couldn't ignore it more if she'd had to. He shouldn't have been allowed to run around the internet on violent sites, he didn't need encouraged. What are the press doing commenting on what Daniel told his barrister in confidence anyway? So inappropriate for that to be made public. The press are disgusting in my opinion.

[@foo219]

They're just awful.

[@Rakel6784]

All confidentiality went out the window when Daniel killed his mother...The prosecutors and his defense team has a right to get his medical records for trial

[@foo219]

@@Rakel6784 I'm not sure I like the idea of my medical records becoming public property because someone felt like declaring me an unperson...

[@mta4562]

@@foo219 then don't kill your mother.

[@fatpinkteddy]

He deserved to have it published. He lost all his rights when he killed his mother. Stop feeling sorry for him.

[@sugarsundae3400]

He only got 16 year's where's the justice ? He's obviously a danger to society keep him locked up.

[@sameerolail]

Children of divorce, especially teens,should see a therapist regularly till they reach adulthood, and beyond.

[@susansage7218]

Having a child is no guarantee they will be “normal.” After the fact, it will change your life in so many ways. If there is mental illness present, it should not be ignored.

[@will-i-am-not]

Under 18 the sentences are less. The government is looking at changing this law to sentence as adults for certain crimes. I would prefer if children are sentenced as adults. But that would be in a sane world

[@audrahartman4212]

So very sad… there’s always more victims, family, friends and community that suffer the consequences.

[@moosemaster96]

Irrespective of if he was maybe "spoilt" or "entitled", you can't really blame the mum for her own murder. There are other factors at work, there are plenty of people from well off backgrounds that don't behave in this fashion. It can maybe lay the foundation for further developments of pathology but its not causal in itself

[@sha5740]

I'm disgusted that the step dad says he can't take the matter to hand when he found that Daniel had urinated and defecated into his toy box because 'He is not my son.' Irresponsible parenting

[@sansserif8839]

Some step-parents are not allowed to discipline their step-children. It happens.

[@TiredOfWhineyBajans]

@@sansserif8839 Yes that can be true, but he could have interevened in anothe rway (not direct discipline) by contacting a professional or something? Let authorities know, having it documented too, instead of doing _nothing_ at all?

[@fatpinkteddy]

Agree the signs were their doing that and hurting his brother are all signs of psychopath

[@Faith_Chi]

As a step-mother (who made the most money contributing to the household by the way) I was not allowed to even tell my step-children to go to bed on time. And they were running wild and he'd do almost nothing. I found it very uncomfortable.

[@meganpopple9100]

“It’s about power.” (I feel that it isn’t actually about power as much as pleasure and convenience. Our brains find the most convenient way it can think of in a moment and builds upon that. It also looks to find pleasure in a convenient path and once it finds it, it cements it. It can build to pleasure in power but it doesn’t start there.)

[@moosemaster96]

Dr Yardley loves to say it's about power and control that's her line in every one of these things she appears in 😅

[@deliafredericks7578]

Not true--- im a single parent, no father present and my son........the best a mother could ask for This child mentality unstable 😢😢😢😢

[@Zibbalans]

Boooooo wooooo he wasn't the only child to experience divorce. And the narration of brutal divorce sound like justifying his deed. And I also sense victim blaming here

[@tabithagreen6957]

They are going INTO Jackie.

[@carolallison862]

Thank you 🇬🇧

[@sayantan3509]

Great research

[@lynnetrathen4587]

His mother was unbelievable she basically let this happen wtf why wasn’t she watching what he is doing? Come on he pissed and shit in his own room and mum still really do anything 🤬🤬 I know he was pushed to be this type of person he never really had a chance did he???

[@hollyoaktree]

i wonder if daniel bartlam feels insecure

[@fionabryant7923]

Weak fathers, lack of boundaries in the mum. Did they ever really talk to the boy, so many hurt and angry feelings the boy couldnt deal with..rage manifested.. very glib some of those commentators.

[@mgrew469]

The background noises are so annoying

[@StellaBastienne]

He dad need thrown jail irresponsible bad dad

[@serenhafwilliams-davies5915]

SO SCARY!!

[@beyondmeasure9903]

What year was this created? Who approved this? lol

[@pikkonama8858]

He is gonna be release soon, he still have 4 years.

[@pikeman80]

I'm far from impressed with the attitude of the mother's new partner. 1 AM is always in the morning.

[@sadiearcher5157]

Im sorry but i have to say this in the defence of that boy, i was 6 or 7 yrs old wen i saw my first horror which was rated 18, this film was Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Then i became very into horror, thrillers, psychological thrillers & blatant gore & blood shed type films such as the Alien films & the Terminator films, all of which i had seen at least 3-4 times before the age of 10! Now, i owned an absolutely brilliant, gory & violent Animé film by the name of Devil Man(original Manga) which i remember my mum recording off the tv onto VHS for me & my younger brother, at the time i was 8 yrs old & he was 4 yrs old. We absolutely loved these types of cartoons, coz they were so gory, lots of scenes of blood bursting from bodies & limbs being severed & all types of other nasty horror which could ever possibly be in a cartoon & its actually got an awesome storyline to boot. Trust me, at that age it was proper entertainment as far as my brother & I were concerned! As we both grew up, we’d had to go thru mum & dad split & ended up divorcing, it was a rather nasty divorce too but it didn’t turn either of us into out of control, delusional children, who were hell bent of hurting others or wot ever! We grew up with all kinds of age 18 rated games & films. In fact, myself & my bro were even given our 1st PC with windows 98 on it & then we upgraded the software to Windows XP wen i was about 9 or 10, maybe 10 or 11, my bro is 4 yrs younger than I, we owned a good couple of age 15/18 rated games on it, named Postal(18) & Postal 2(18) & Grand Theft Auto 2/3.(15) I do not understand how anyone can blame adult entertainment eg: games & films etc on this boy acting in the particular nasty way in which he did! He did not beat his own mother to death with a claw hammer coz of rated 18 films/games! Absolutely not, instead try to have a look at the people who are around him & how they’re behaving around him! I dont really know why i feel like this about this guy, coz ive never met him, altho, just sitting watching & listening to him speak about this boy, the boys mother had a new partner, i think there’s something that went on between this man & this young lad, kids dont just do things for nothing, i am inclined to look at his own mother & the likes of the new “step dad” the young lad was having to come to terms with! The bloke who was dating the mother, he can sit there going on about how screwed up this boy is/was, all he likes, but its easy to sit & talk crap about a kid he hardly knew, maybe he did somethings that seriously made the boy suffer, maybe not physically do anything but maybe the playing of head games, psychological games that would make the boy question his own sanity! At 11 yrs old ur very impressionable, so if u feel that somebody is not to ur liking & this person happens to be dating ur mum, then that guy starts to manipulate the mother & play mother against son, who’s to know wot kind of things did actually happen behind closed doors! Of course this is all just speculation, but it does make me wonder, myself & my brother didnt go kill our mother, altho my mum is actually not with us anymore, bless her heart(love u mum) she was a baad mum but all the horror & bloody gory films/games i played with my bro, didnt make me go off & take revenge on my mum, nope nothing like it! So people need to get down off that whole “ gore & violence in games & films makes kids go mad & murder their own parent” horse & look a load deeper than just this violent games/films nonsensical bullcrap theory, people just love to clutch at absolutely any kinda straw, coz they’re too ignorant or too stupid to see the truth! There was something else happening in that home, between that boys mum, his newly appointed “step dad” & wot the dynamics of each relationship to the other, things dont just happen like this without a hidden truth, “No Smoke Without Fire” they say isn’t it?! I am not condoning wot the lad did to his mum, far from it, but this lad isnt 100% to blame, its a concoction of elements which have caused this epic chemical reaction & this disturbing & tragic event is the result of that futile chemical reaction! I feel for the lad to be honest, something doesnt feel right, i will never know if im right or wrong but my gut feeling tells me there’s more than meets the eye with this case here! I’ve never been wrong wen ive listened to my gut instinct! Its always seen me right! Every time! Anyway, sorry, i just literally had to get that out, normally i just feel for the victims, but this case has peaked my interests! I cant shake the feeling something other than wot we know publicly has occurred behind that homes closed front door! May his poor mother Rest In Peace, a mother & a son shouldn’t ever come to blows in this way, not ever! No kid should hurt mum or dad & no mum or dad should ever hurt a child, simple as that! Its a saaad saaad case all round! Thanks for sharing this episode for us viewers on KZbin, we love ur true crime channels here on KZbin, keep up the fab work & remember, take care of urselves, take care of each other & love each other coz life is too short to be going thru life with hate in ur ❤! Chow 4 Now peeps & Peace Out. ☮️💖& 🍌 👋🏼

[@deliafredericks7578]

Woh!!! You're comment is way too much I didn't read anything...... Scrolling down, down and right to the end

[@owenomawayne9216]

For who dont know this 14 year old brutal killed his mum

[@jeffdo9195]

Dont you mean mom?

[@beyondmeasure9903]

This video won’t be up long? Lol wow

[@trineperstuen7011]

This narrator make the video so good.your other narrator just seems riddicilus with his overdramatic voice😂.cant wait to follow this channel now❤❤❤

[@liskyvonsko8225]

Can’t blame video games so we use Conronation Street? What’s next The only way Essex?? The crime itself is horrific but to blame Coronation street is pure and simply a joke.

[@leahmoore6820]

Blame the mother. Cool.

[@tamarakasischke1828]

Mother is a dandy.

[@Juliett-we7tc]

It seems to me like his mother really didn't want the responsibility of being a parent. I mean there were such obvious cries for help by this boy and there were so many red flags that he was in desperate need of some kind of intervention, but at least to me, it looks like she just couldnt be bothered. Now this definitely does not mean she deserved this because she didnt, but had she intervened, maybe he could have gotten the treatment he needed for him to be able to learn how to handle his problems in a proper way. Just one or two half hearted doctor visits were definitely not enough when he was doing the kinds of severely destructive things he was doing. This is just my own opinion though

[@219043204]

I dont think that mom was irresponsible at all, he sounded like a n angry teen. If anything mom was trying to hard to pacify the little monster.

[@fatpinkteddy]

He was a psychopath their is no cure for it

[@deliafredericks7578]

He is and not was..... He's still alive 😢😢😢

[@thefallen8496]

And did she once even consider letting the kid live with his father? She removed the option of having an involved father in the house when she chose to divorce his father. She showed pretty early on she couldn't give him the discipline and direction he needed. The clean up man who was stupid enough to marry her next proved too weak to do it. I'm curious what her relationship with her ex was like. Did he not want to be involved? Or did she destroy her son to hurt her ex like so many "mothers" do in the name of having power?

[@NH-tv3jr]

Basic lack of discipline from the mother. Tragic all around.

[@savantianprince]

He must be abused or neglected during divorce. Hope he turns his life around. By no means I condone his actions, but his mom should have kept a closer eye on him when he was young.

[@abocas]

Many children come from mentally or physically abusive homes or suffered ditto negligence. This mother seemed to have explained away her son's behavior. But no many children from such homes kill! He is definitely not mentally ok!

[@mimid.6675]

Blaming the victim , the mother who is no longer alive to tell her side of the story... Pathetic

[@davepowell7168]

Yes, a disgusting practice. Hearsay from the convicted

[@theriddlerUSA]

Spoiled brat!

[@whyohwhy9679]

Kids without consequences just keep dialing up their behavior until they do something that will force the parent to pay attention. The interviewer said it best: is it possible that the boy interpreted the mom's attitude as she just didn't care about him? I think he could have. IMO, she really should have put him into residential therapy, or gotten him out of the toxic environment at home for a while to break up that dynamic and ensure everyone's safety, including his.

[@polkadots716]

I agree. I would also add that inconsistent discipline was likely a factor. The stepfather stated he didn't intervene in Daniel's behavioral issues because he wasn't the boy's father. Daniel needed a consistent father figure and consistent discipline in order to develop a conscience. The divorce of his parents happened at a critical time in his development.

[@jdbakerassociates]

If you don’t discipline your children, the system will, now add: and they will bludgeon you with a hammer 😢

[@jesterday2222]

"If you don’t discipline your children, the system will". Yeah not really. Not anymore anyway.

[@fatpinkteddy]

He was a psychopath all the signs were their urinating on his things, hurting his brother and mother. Playing the victim and manipulation. Stealing under wear. Nothing to do with films and video games. I watched horrors since I was young and video games and I didn’t kill my mother.

[@Faith_Chi]

I agree. I don't think it was 'mental illness' (schizophrenia etc.) rather a personality disorder, psychopathy. Which runs in families - I'd be interested to know whether his biological father has it.

[@fatpinkteddy]

@@Faith_Chi yeah I agree he was a psychopath.

[@StellaBastienne]

​@Faith_Chi has dad has money is root of evil, they need his check background to

[@elainethomas9737]

Everybody needs an excuse...blame the mother...blame the mother. The shrinks seem to excuse his actions ☹️ there is no excuse in the world for what he did.😠

[@KZ66100]

It's such a tired and outdated cliché in true crime, isn't it? 'Bad mums' inadvertently turning their kids into deranged killers... 🥱

[@joanneentwistle7653]

My question is, why is she shouldering all the blame when his biological father wasn't taking much interest in him. She wasn't doing anything different from many mothers, and they are not murdered by their sons. All this program does is give this child more fuel to feed his narcissistic tendencies. A woman was murdered, he's a POS, end of story.

[@TiredOfWhineyBajans]

So true! I've also looked at biographies of prolific male serial killers going back generations (even into 18th-19th Century!), and what's interesting is that the ones who were _abused by their own fathers,_ ended up killing _women,_ not even men were their targets. Funny how that works eh? If mommy was bad, they killed women. If daddy was bad, they killed women. Even when ol' 'daddy' was around, and abusive, it was _women_ getting the end of the stick. The mothers who stay and struggle raising the kid after the father abandons them, gets the raw deal too. Mothers.... Damned if ya do and damned if ya don't.

[@KZ66100]

@@TiredOfWhineyBajans I guess, for most of us in the true crime community (me included), we get exposed to all these snippets of science and psychology and start to think we know what we're talking about, but few of us are experts and most of us talk in sweeping generalisations and incredibly simplified terms (often spouting outdated ideas). Things are almost never black and white, and programmes like this don't exactly help to breathe new ways of thinking into our crime-addled brains, by knocking us about the head with one particular point about the mother.

[@iamthegoat2359]

Right what was the father at? Did he die or something

[@foo219]

After listening to enough of these it feels like I could teach a "how to turn your child into a homicidal sociopath 101" class. This one would be a great example.

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

go ahead, teach us. Lesson 1 would be "don't buy your child an iMac" so they can't write down how they plan to kill you, right?

[@StanCat4]

:53 ugh already. BOTH parents play an extremely important role in a young human’s life. Matriarchal blame is archaic. 5:30 Divorced. There could have been abuse from the dad (precipitating the split), or brain predisposition (Daniel) could be a factor as well. 6:45 lack of discipline and boundaries can result in major negative consequences as well.

[@mrlardtard6552]

Hello Karen

[@StellaBastienne]

No he dad biggest blame and probably stepdad

[@Jesse-ze5np]

Quick reminder for everyone: Schizophrenia is an awful illness, but the vast majority of people afflicted with it are genuinely kind, loving people. Medication makes a world of difference. Please treat them with the love and respect they deserve. ❤

[@Moeporcelli57]

I have a friend who has schizophrenia and she has always been a kind and loving person. She takes her medication, and she is alright.

[@MysteriaPearl]

“Victim blaming: the series”

[@barbarajohnson3876]

Again, happily childfree by choice

[@gwenvanrensburg6830]

Unbelievable..only 16 years..probably 10 for good behaviour..so who will be killed next..some poor innocent..british law is incredible !!!

[@in_vino_veritas7938]

He was clearly showing signs of distress which turned into mental illness. I think regardless of the circumstances something would have set him off anyway. I don't blame the mother tho it does sound that she did not handle it properly at all. It would have gone differently had he been seen by professionals on a regular basis preferably at a center. How differently i don't know.

[@fatpinkteddy]

He is as psychopath the signs were their. Their is no treatment for psychopath

[@in_vino_veritas7938]

@@fatpinkteddy you're right

[@fionastube2011]

It seems from the outset - look at the title! - that this reporter is determined to blame the victim. As usual, there’s more to it than we see. The mother was unable or unwilling to see how disturbed her son was. And she was probably over whelmed. It happens. The child should have been in therapy for an extensive period, in a clinical setting. Even now, he needs Broadmoor more than prison. He should never be released.

[@LoisFox131]

There is a giant hole in this story. This step father seems large in the limelight..HELLO!?

[@1000000man1]

Because he's a psychopath and he wanted to create a soap opera storyline. He literally wrote his plan in that context in a word document, before he committed the murder, which is how he got caught.

[@lovelylittlegirl3332]

I know his mom is turning in her grave knowing that people found a way to blame her for her own murder. I think crime documentaries use the term ‘psychopath’ so loosely. Daniel is no psychopath, he’s just some stupid kid who got on 4chan and took it too seriously. These type of people will keep popping up because of the lack of accountability from the legal authorities. They see their mate’s crimes go unpunished and the victims are even being blamed for it of course they would be encouraged to pursue their distorted fantasies. I grew up watching horror movies too and didn’t kill my mom, that’s such a bullshit excuse. I have 6 brothers and we watched horror movie together and they played CoD and GTA and whatnot but not a single one of them killed any of our parents. So many kids these days are suddenly turning out to be ‘psychopaths’ which in my opinion is just lack of discipline and apathy about consequences because they know they will not actually be held responsible.

[@jdbakerassociates]

Well a child is the responsibility of a parent and if that child is a minor, it’s the parent’s job to be aware of the child struggles and doing something about it. Sure you can’t be sure how your child will turn out but at 14, that’s a quick escalation, this child’s issues have long been ignored.

[@fatpinkteddy]

He is a psychopath urination on things and hurting his brother. Stop making excuses for him

[@MxMicah1038]

She downplayed his behavior. She did not deserve this, of course. But please ppl when ur children or spouse/partner, ex-partner does things like this, do not downplay it. Take it seriously and do Something about it.

[@theriddlerUSA]

He should NEVER be allowed out of prison. Think about the things he'll learn from the other adult men.

[@lisaroselle4559]

ALWAYS the mothers fault!funny how the fathers are never implicated in horrendous acts

[@HB-iq6bl]

And what about all his stored feaces he kept under his bed?

[@theriddlerUSA]

I'm sure it smelled horrible in the entire house.

[@skatpak2967]

sounds like a very entitled spoiled child that nobody was paying attention to anymore..very sad

[@avramwurf5804]

If you're gonna keep spoiling your children then of course things like kids murdering their elders can happen. Stop pampering your children and stop rewarding bad behavior. GEE WIZ!! Get help if you have to as well, denial will only make things worse.

[@stuartashbourne-martin9629]

The crimes that these people committed was disgusting and apparent but I put it quite bluntly without them you will not be able to make a program would you one wonders why just to make money

[@JumpingJackFlash1989]

He was watching adult rated films and playing adult rated games... like every other young boy in Christendom

[@ImAdrianAllison]

It’s not the mother’s fault…we all have a predisposition for dark thoughts but never act on them…some people are just wired differently.

[@theriddlerUSA]

Did he ever live or spend time with his biological father?

[@infobaseworks2401]

Mothers day isn't a top priority with ol' Danny boyy

[@oliverwilliam6931]

It's the mother's fault

[@ladyhonor822]

☦️🏥🙏🙏🙏📿🇺🇲 The PUNNET SQUARE?📿🙏🙏🙏

[@ladyhonor822]

Temple University WHY?

[@ladyhonor822]

RIP 😇😇😇😇😇🗯️

[@ladyhonor822]

YES YOU'RE HAVING A... WHAT?

[@meganpopple9100]

There is no such thing as innocence. Anyone of any age or disposition can be monsters. We are the monsters in our storybooks. We have been from the beginning. And we will be ‘til the end of time.

[@OneBadAssMoMo]

Here

[@amyrudolph3932]

Your Point? 😂😂😂😂🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@drsabeen369]

Evil child everymother has story

[@Kenkamerman]

IF he wanted a pizza after his tea, it might have been because he had the munchies... His mom should have stayed out of that one. Growing kids need to eat. Stoners even more so.