How Were Fred & Rose West Caught? Police Investigation As It Happened | Fred & Rose | Absolute Crime

Fred West is known to have committed at least 12 murders - the majority with his second wife, Rose. All of their victims were young women. At least eight of these murders involved the Wests' sexual gratification, but how were the killer couple caught? And what happened afterwards during the police investigation?
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[@jennifs6868]

what blows the mind is that no one noticed or said anything about the disappearance of Rena's daughter, Charmaine.

[@jj-if6it]

They probably thought she'd taken her back to Scotland

[@melly9037]

Completely different times, the digital footprint an the coming together of forces an social services was not in place, you could call yourself anything an get a job....

[@jj-if6it]

I feel so sorry for Anne Marie, she lost both her mum and two of her sisters. Not to mention what she went through. What horror

[@mogadon7]

Police regular customers of Rose ? What about the barn - ritual abuse ?

[@jj-if6it]

@@mogadon7 huh?

[@jj-if6it]

Thank god for that female investigator who had been around 25 years before and knew there was a daughter missing. They easily could have gotten away with a lot more. She was persistent

[@kellyshomemadekitchen]

She certainly matched her last name being “Savage”

[@simoncluett726]

How the fuck does someone have this many people "disappear" around them and not be investigated??

[@paarker]

Ask Hilary Clinton. She knows.

[@dodibenabba525]

It happens every day sadly

[@divya-u9i]

Runaway people and folks with no family to look out for them.

[@davidcat1455]

@@paarker Nice to see Secretary Clinton lives rent-free in your head. I’ll bet you’ll be upset in 2024😂😂😂😂

[@Debagio]

​@@user-el8nz4yu4tOkay, I'll bite: Who did the Wests have 'in high places' that kept their crimes secret?

[@Howay.Man.Angelica]

It's awful theat Caroline Owens went through that, and then died of cancer. She went through so much, poor lass.

[@PaganPunk]

Im sure its the stress they go through that brings these horrendous illnesses out!.....You often hear of parents of murdered children die early .....So sad 😢 xx

[@Gizmo30]

Yes but WHY did she drop the rape charges?? 😢

[@juiceboxelf]

@@Gizmo30she spoke in a documentary i saw a while ago saying that the police treated her terribly about it, basically saying things such as “are you sure you werent up for it? seems like you were at first and you just regret it now its happened” understandable why she didnt press charges when the people who are meant to enforce the law treated her so horribly after shed been through that torture, id have lost all hope at that point

[@lucasroche8639]

The poor families of the victims having to find out how their daughters were murdered after not knowing what had happened to them for years, it must of been heartbreaking and no doubt still causes them pain to this day.

[@lorimiller4301]

That's just like the poor families from the Luna Park Ghost Ride. Not knowing for so very long. Thank goodness we are eternal souls having a human experience. We get to experience life again and again from all different types of perspective. We seem to learn best from contrast even though it can be so painful. Yet we love it so much we want to come back for the ride, over and over.

[@nihilist4184]

The police and system is so pathetic and useless they have to wait for Rose West to kill again to properly convict her on real evidence now.

[@wild282]

I highly doubt they cared

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

That's just little Britian

[@nicholacousins8563]

League of Gentlemen or Bo selecta

[@allyw1364]

Rose was only crying for herself......not her poor Deceased Children or the other poor innocent victims

[@KidMetairie]

This video is the best I’ve seen at putting the pieces together in a logical manner. Most don’t explain Fred’s actions after his arrest and it ends up making no sense.

[@lucretiamalcolm4597]

you need to read the books about this crime as its tens times worse than you think, i had to take breaks from reading as it was so disturbing.

[@andreabennington]

​@@lucretiamalcolm4597Please don't read any book about the Wests. I began reading one 2-4 years ago and was so sickened I never finished it. I am still disturbed by passages I read in the book.

[@uv77mc85]

Pure evil madness. People like this are the scariest .

[@uv77mc85]

@@andreabennington I wouldn't want to know the sickness they had. I ain't reading no west books

[@Maxshard]

It isn't very logical to try and give the impression that Hazel Savage served the warrant on Fred and was the lead detective when she wasn't. And it should have been pointed out that Savage was removed from the case after approaching a literary agent, asking for a seven figure sum for a book deal. But then f*menism has no respect for historical accuracy.

[@jimbo250686]

Hazel Savage, brilliant and dedicated detective.

[@kellyshomemadekitchen]

And has a perfect last name

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

Hazel Savage is a heroine cop ⭐ she deserves a medal or something.

[@NateHenry405]

I am grateful for documentaries like this because it educates the public what people can do. It's almost unfathomable the horrific behavior toward their children. It's just disgusting and how did they get away with it for so long without other people finding out? This one's almost unwatchable it's so disturbing

[@Gildermesh]

A complete failure of British policing yet again

[@paulweston285]

@@GildermeshYes the police messed up in the Yorkshire Ripper case too.

[@paulweston285]

@@mhoppy6639Yes they did and during that time women died.

[@paulweston285]

@@mhoppy6639 Thats very true and people suddenly became concerned when one was not a prostitute.

[@budgetnuclearweapons7858]

@@user-el8nz4yu4t Have you ever thought of seeking help? All you ever post is ridiculous claims that "so and so" knew. You seem very enthusiastic to spread misinformation and divert blame.......what are YOU hiding?

[@jackgrant9301]

Who is that actor playing Fred West? He is absolutely chilling.

[@stevenweasel2678]

Boris Johnson

[@hellko2009]

​@@stevenweasel2678😂😂😂😂

[@PHILCHUDS]

He looks more like Benny from Crossroads !

[@781David]

It's in the credits. Dan Carey played Fred West.

[@Rando15]

She was more evil than he was but not by much. I'm sure that the officers involved needed therapy once this was over.

[@xStarblazer]

From the documentary he seems kinda dense whereas she seems more shrewd and calculated about it. Doesn’t really change much but it’s interesting all the same.

[@robinwalton-gm5ms]

Don't worry a lot of the coppers who were involved in this case were literally case hardened already . One of whom, the arresting officer of Rose West was a friend of mine...RIP Bob.

[@samanthaharrington8713]

Yes I've always thought the same thing... He came off as delusional and maybe even paranoid.... She came off as calculated and lacking in empathy....

[@christopherreynolds9254]

The actors who played Fred and Rose in this were amazing - must have been a horrible gig form them playing those monsters

[@mhoppy6639]

Have you seen “appropriate adult’? Dominic West’s (no relation, thank god) portrayal of Fred was frighteningly realistic. It was a horrific yet compelling drama.

[@christopherreynolds9254]

@@mhoppy6639 👍🏻

[@alfsmith4936]

I wonder if they had to do their own digging..

[@SUK2293]

currently playing prince charles in the crown@@mhoppy6639

[@stevecooke2041]

The actors playing Rose and Fred, especially Rose, are brilliant - but what a sad sad story for those they killed, their families - and the ruined lives of their surviving children.

[@jj-if6it]

And a really tough job too!

[@juiceboxelf]

caroline owens deserved so much better, as did all of their victims. its just so sad seeing her have survivors guilt saying “if only i had pressed the r*pe charges” when it was due to police not taking her seriously that she didnt press charges in the first place :(( even after physically escaping the wests her mind was likely a prisoner til she succumbed to her cancer,, blaming herself for these girls deaths when it all couldve been avoided if police would just have taken her seriously the first time,, poor poor woman

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

Why did they keep letting Rose go home?

[@linda9115]

Feel sorry for the cops having to watch rose going at it on tape

[@pageribe2399]

🤢🤮

[@georgia8592]

Cops of today would love it 🤮

[@seanhutchinson5867]

😂😂

[@Guru-ue2yp]

Not me😂

[@emilyhays6458]

Not rose, more like g rose. 🤮 🤢

[@libranpoet]

Disgusting, brutal beasts. They don't deserve any mercy in this world or the next.

[@irielion3748]

The next? What are you talking about? Madness

[@libranpoet]

@@irielion3748 The great hereafter, Heaven. A shame you're not familiar with it.

[@CB-xr1eg]

@@libranpoet If it does exist, how can you be familiar with it if you're alive?🤔

[@user-pu4bk7bf1g]

So glad heaven helped those poor little girls and the people that were killed come On Now You don't think those people prayed to live

[@CityThatCannotBeCaptured]

The police 'allowed' them to destroy 99 videos of porn they had filmed. WTLF!

[@stevenweasel2678]

cos mebs an ex copper was on a few

[@andrewwilkinson8250]

Wonder who the tapes implicated

[@tinalyons3964]

ikr,, something bit weird with this case

[@chateaupig826]

😭😭 Those poor poor girls for the cruelty they endured and no one to hear their screams 😢😢❤❤🙏🙏⚘⚘

[@cherubs5177]

She was allowed home on bail after two murders😮

[@ianmcculloch8531]

It seems to me that the UK has always been slack when dealing with these criminals.

[@mpol701]

Bailed for murders are u sure not watched whole thing but so far bailed for the rape accusations

[@karenturner7184]

I have always wondered how it came abiut they were found out. Thank you for this.

[@davidtydeman1434]

It is extraordinary how these people can maintain a facade of normality - holding a job and maintaining relations with the neighbours- while behaving like that and murdering multiple victims over many years

[@waynesworld7804]

I can’t believe Rose was bailed after being charged with two counts of murder.

[@dumptrump3788]

The law doesn't treat men & women the same. A lot of men know that.

[@iaminpainauchocolat9300]

​@@dumptrump3788you're right. The law is so so so unfair to men that r-pe and abuse women. So mean. So unfair as well with custody hearings. So so so unfair.

[@MsMuradova]

Yes makes no sense whatsoever, real demons in human form 🫣

[@Gizmo30]

Yes that is Beyond Stupid!! And disrespectful against the victims families 😡

[@user-pu4bk7bf1g]

Nobody should get bail anywhere if they're accused of murder

[@zeejimi4044]

This is a most disturbing documentary of how evil and vile people can be towards their fellow human beings. It is like a private holocaust..😱😱😱 If anyone deserves to burn in hell, then it is such people. With regard to the real-life interview of West’s niece : personally, I would no longer want to know anything about these crimes, nor would I want to be associated with that surname anymore.

[@amandawhiteley6737]

Makes me shudder. I reached my teens in late 70s early 80s. Having found out this in 94, i can't seem to compute this kind of thing was happening back then! if these crimes hadnt been investigated, heaven knows what might have still happened since. Im in my late 50s.

[@kaylew108]

The acting parts are flippin fantastic in this 😂

[@deirdrelavery1479]

No one will never forget what happen rose is were she belongs and we all know were Fred is hell

[@barbaralamson7450]

There is not enough money in all of England to get me to play the part of Rose West. I just couldn't do it. I hope the actor's who played this vile couple came out of it okay.

[@tartaninka]

From a drama point of view, the actor portraying wee, smeary , jovial Fred the happy murderer, is doing a marvellous job here !!😮🎉🎉🎉😊

[@tradeladder146]

There Actors, relax, there actually providing an insight into the horrors of what went on, i for one applaud them.

[@user-vu7rv1xf1l]

I know someone called Rose West, she losses it if anyone dare calls her by her full name 😂 I think she should probably change it if she feels that strongly. Shes quite old though so definitely had that name before the news broke in the 90s.

[@CB-xr1eg]

@@tradeladder146 They're* not there*. (both times)

[@natalie12b]

My mum told me a few years ago that she was a school friend of one of the victims. In the late 80's, I lived for a few months in midland road the same street where the killing began.

[@fireinthesky3018]

The young girl who helped give them away had incredible inner strength to convince them to let her live, considering she was horribly tortured and raped . She managed to keep her wits about her so she could get away.

[@fireinthesky3018]

I remember reading about them a few years ago

[@jaymac7203]

She got them to humanise her. Very smart!

[@cyclist68]

To say they were both damaged individuals because of their childhoods is an understatement. Not that its an excuse as thousands suffer the same way but don't go on to raope and mourder.

[@user-pu4bk7bf1g]

Exactly like They're poor surviving daughter she's not a murderer and look what she went through them

[@wazza29rep]

Great illustration of Fred & Rose! Its mad to think how many opportunities were missed to catch this couple earlier even if for lesser offences. Inevitable prison sentences could have resulted in some of the deceased still being alive. What's more if it wasn't for the rumour/joke about their daughter buried under the patio then this may have never come to light its bonkers!

[@turokforever007]

Fred was arrested for kidnapping but talked his way out of it.

[@jaymac7203]

What a fantastic documentary 👏 I remember this case well.

[@cynthiatolman326]

This program gives a lot of details and witness statements that the others I've seen either glossed over or didnt cover all. Thses crimes are nightmares the victims will never wake from.

[@iaminpainauchocolat9300]

That's because it's a tv show on BBC back in the day

[@iamsarahtonin]

When did this documentary come out, ​@@iaminpainauchocolat9300? Its very good. Fantastic performances.

[@ellaeadig263]

I feel so sorry for Samantha West.

[@bernieob9577]

God love her,people need to leave her alone it's not her fault who her uncle was .she did nothing wrong.

[@robertzammit4200]

I would change my sur name if she wants to remain anonymous.

[@sarahcox9284]

Feel so sorry for the niece and of course Fred and Rose's surviving children,i think the brother feels completely at a loss with what has happened,imagine being in any of their shoes,just so,so sad and terrible. I feel sorry for all those girls that were killed and the families that have to live with knowing what happened to them.

[@bernieob9577]

Absolutely, it's so sad.

[@lukejones-hr1fu]

Totally agree with the niece and Fred's brother must be such a horrible feeling when the public stare or give them foul looks/shout abuse for something they have no control over probably been turned down countless jobs etc as well just due to their unfortunate family name

[@user-pu4bk7bf1g]

Change your name to East

[@bobtranquilli9985]

Great re-enactments, unlike 99% of other docos.

[@richardcooper9417]

I wonder how many other "Fred and Rose Wests" are still at large?

[@ThePurleflower]

The most disturbing piece about this video is that two people had to act as Fred and Rose.

[@glen7318]

what does that mean? Is it worse than the murders that the Wests committed?

[@katherinecollins4685]

Well presented

[@jetnight88]

Good on hazel for actually doing something

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

Absolutely. She was pivotal

[@gaynorreid9236]

I dread to think how long they would carry on killing if it hadn’t been for Hazel Savage pushing and pushing . This detective was key to these horrific crimes carried out by the Wests . Well done to her and all the Police involved in this very very sad case ❤

[@thomasgray5406]

"How were they caught?" ought to be "How weren't they caught?". The gross incompetence of all the authorities concerned is incredible.

[@johngodley256]

The police refused to dig up the patio, because they may have looked silly if they did not find anything. Very competent, they should feel themselves lucky that no one else was murdered.

[@stevefowler3398]

Serial killers (all killers I guess) are very cunning. They don't advertise what they do. Don't brag about it in the pub. If you recall from this film, it was only a chance overhearing of the son's chatting that led to the early suspicions.

[@jj-if6it]

I've watched many documentaries and listened to podcasts etc, but I learnt something new about the case from both parts

[@cbachinger]

When you hear a girl of any age going missing and you never hear from them again (eg. Madeline cain), it always ends up with murder and evidence of rape/sexual assault.

[@danjohnson2342]

Her parents killed her

[@fionabuck3937]

Who would have slept with him he looks like something out of Lord of the Rings

[@joannelawrence2126]

This is quite well depicted, but because it’s very short, it brushes over many details. I’ve read books and seen countless documentaries about this dreadful case and this is the quickest depiction and description of all the facts. I would recommend anyone who’s interested in getting more of an idea of these monsters and their hideous crimes , to watch a TV drama called “Appropriate Adult”. In my humble opinion, Fred West was mentally challenged, evil, but mentally challenged. Rose West, although abused in childhood was and is simply, pure evil.

[@user-ir8lw6vq3o]

We had a couple using a similar m.o. operating in Australia around the same time. Their final victim, who escaped, ran away naked, and found herself at a police station, was interviewed, discredited, and almost sent away by male officers, before a female officer became involved, and the couple were arrested, charged and sentenced. The female perpetrator is still alive. The male took his life in prison.

[@thethingonlycatscansee963]

@@user-ir8lw6vq3o Fo you have names, please? I don’t know of this case.

[@thebodykeepsthescore2828]

​@@user-ir8lw6vq3oFred took his life too. Cowards

[@PaganPunk]

Totally back you up there!

[@foolishlyfoolhardy6004]

Fred was smart enough to have his own little Mr. Whippy (ice-cream van) business before ever meeting Rose. It is thought he started kidnapping (we know he kidnapped someone) and m*rdering girls (we don't know for certain) in that van. And he hit and k*lled a small boy. He was also the one who honed the "craft" of dismembering, and is most likely the one who took trophies and (very probably) canibalised them. I mean you've probably read this stuff in the books - but Fred was pure evil in the same vein as Rose. And I don't think she's any smarter than he was. He just doesn't have the more domineering character that Rose has, he was more demure and "pleasant" (personality-wise) and while he was the one to first introduce k*lling into their MO, she is the one who escalated the r*pe to more extremes, while he watched. It is thought that if it were to have gone on, she would have turned on him. She was jealous, cold and vindictive. Happy to throw anyone away to save her own skin. I just think because of their personalities that it's easier to see the evil in her. Fred was called a "likeable guy," she was never called a likeable woman. I think this idea that he was just a dim witted guy who was easily manipulated, comes back to this misogynistic idea that it's always a womans fault, like we see when people are talking about the case of Chris Watts. They both drove each other in these crimes. They're both as smart and evil as each other.

[@pippamellon8678]

AND we pay for this crap service by police , social services..

[@f.b.2931]

Rose is still living, this evil monster

[@Spiderdan-59]

It was a blessing they were cought, their own daughter ffs how the hell could anybody do that you're own daughter beggers belief it's way beyond my comprehension 🤯🤯

[@irielion3748]

caught*** the past of catch. There is no 'cought'. What were you thinking?

[@kiryuchan860]

​@@irielion3748they are literally stating that they have a lack of comprehension, go easy on them.

[@CB-xr1eg]

@@irielion3748 There was no need to put three *** either. One is quite sufficient, any more is just unnecessary. What were you thinking?

[@user-pu4bk7bf1g]

Person made a typo relax

[@dontgetmadgetwise4271]

A vast network of family, relatives, friends, acquaintances, friends of and families of… etc knew that evil was happening. Why did this reveal take so long? Funny lot we humans.

[@marcusharmon8389]

Bless that girl you can just see the pain in her face 😮

[@summerspicer6153]

Sick,sick people, no way the family didn’t know they were both that deprived.

[@whyitmatterstome]

How did so many girls go missing and it not be reported that they were missing? While many of the victims were clearly targeted because they were 'in care' or lost in the system, others weren't. I wonder how many of serial killers get away with it and are never caught? Horrifying that people like this exist in the world.

[@babybee0640]

"Rose was charged with 2 murders, but allowed home on bail" this is why all those girls were allowed to die. Who the fuck lets a murderer go home???

[@julietbarnes5634]

Thank you Hazel ❤

[@leosmoonfish2849]

Deirdre Barlow doing a bit of moonlighting from Corrie.

[@claireamos8613]

If this had happened in a Scotland, Fred would still had been prosecuted for taking a 13 year old child. God if they had changed the laws, Fred would have been caught instead of walking free, mason greenwood would even be in jail right now.

[@christynorman7288]

Many of his victims in Scotland on his milkman round - no one did anything to investigate. The number will never be known.

[@patriciau6277]

British police “Destroyed evidence “?!

[@TimothyWorel-xj9he]

1:54 When West answered yhe door he bore a striking resemblance to Gary Glitter in his heyday.

[@anthonykology1728]

Child abuse was the least of it...

[@trishlong8835]

I live not far away from cromwell street i can recall everything about these evil people.Believe me Gloucester will never forget.

[@CB-xr1eg]

I heard the house has been demolished, is that true?

[@giddygrub7176]

​@@CB-xr1eg yes.

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

It’s always the female detectives who are relentless at solving crimes.

[@VetriVade]

Name 5

[@user-pu4bk7bf1g]

Absolutely not every female detective I'm sure male detectives solve crimes to sexist

[@anneloving8405]

Can you name 5 male detectives in 5seconds.

[@kelliegemma627]

I live Gloucester and it was so sad

[@9kazcat]

I met someone through a mate who use to play round their house with their kids. Only thing she said was she had bathed round there as a kid. She was neighbours with them. She had anorexia and would never talk about it or tell anyone what had happened. Think that speaks volumes !

[@f.b.2931]

OmG..terrible.

[@praveenchaudhary2887]

Literal “Partners in crime”

[@lgreen2475]

I remember when it hit the news. Worst crime of that type in my lifetime.

[@PandoraFoxxBurlesque]

I'm just glad that courts have Special Measures now to prevent a 13 year old (or kids of any age, or people with vulnerabilities) from having to go into a courtroom and give evidence in front of everybody - the defendant, the jury, everyone. Instead it's pre-recorded from a separate part of the court building or a different location entirely, do they're not having to go through that ordeal on top of what they already have

[@TinaHenderson-cl9mb]

Wonder how her kids are? Hope their lives are full of love

[@liverbirdxoxo1984]

their son stephen was arrested for underage sex back in 2004

[@jadepixie2719]

Their youngest son Barry committed suicide in 2020 age 40.

[@TinaHenderson-cl9mb]

@@jadepixie2719 tragic. There for the grace of God eh?

[@jadepixie2719]

Yes, it very sad. 😞 If you want to know more details about the West children you can read Mae West (Fred & Rose’s second daughter.) autobiography “Love as always, Mum” which details Mae and her siblings lives after her parents were unmasked as serial killers.

[@Gizmo30]

@@liverbirdxoxo1984 A chip of the old man 😮

[@moriarty6958]

I didn't do it! >car door closes ok I did it I know I shouldn't of laughed but that made me laugh

[@ZootBurger]

😂😂😂

[@markwall330]

In cases like this the death penalty should be in force. 100% guilty

[@chrissibersky4617]

If they were politicians everyone would know about it but nothing would be done about it. And I think that's the reason they release those kind of people back out on the streets again against the people's wishes even though they know that sexual preferences can't be "cured".

[@gatocat3336]

I Hope people judge Fred Wests brother and niece on their own merit, and not on the fact they were related to Fred West. I’m afraid however that they are going to be two more victims of Fred West

[@Teeah333]

This story is so disturbing

[@johnkidd1226]

How do so many graves and so many missing girls not be discovered, especially those with connections to Fred and Rose.

[@kieranwillis395]

They were extremely controlling and almost got away with it. Very sly deranged perverts. The fact they got rid of Heather, Rena, and Charmaine they thought they’d got rid of people who were a threat and it was ironically what brought them down

[@wildside4822]

LOL @ the acting

[@msmango6354]

What an idiot cop that says "police can't keep things in case of future need" 🙄 that is precisely what they should do in cases where the case has collapsed and not that there has been a conclusion let's face it they could have done a LOT more.

[@Mute_Nostril_Agony]

Nice of Eddie Izzard to play Rose West

[@JupiterThunder]

So Fred is in the police station and the detective says: "OK, Fred, we've got you mate. Tell us: how many altogether?" Fred says "Well, 8." The detective says "Don't muck about Fred, we've already dug up 12." And Fred says " Yeah, but I'm a builder - that was just an estimate."

[@70srocknroll]

They where both messed up

[@christynorman7288]

They went out to pick up girls at chippies, shops as just walking home girlz were kidnapped and taken to thekr house of horror. Both of them and having a woman there made some girls not realise the danger.

[@nforne]

Judas goat.

[@abbieroseholden4174]

Its not just the victims its their actual children my heart also breaks for 😢😢

[@jj-if6it]

When people kill strangers or people they're not related to it's one thing, but how can you kill and dismember your own child? You kept them alive for years, fed and sheltered them, and surely showed some affection. It just baffles me how they don't have the instinct to protect the. Don't have kids then?!

[@user-ir8lw6vq3o]

I couldn't help but think of the Jack The Ripper murders throughout this documentary. One element is common throughout all of these events - poverty. Many times, the victims had little option to leave - in the case of the daughters, or avoid going home with the Wests in the case of the ladies procured while walking the streets. One of the daughters was a job away from surviving, and starting a new life. Some of the victims who escaped had led such awful lives anyway, that they expected to be mistreated throughout life, and were just grateful to get away, without the ordeal of going to court. The brighter students didn't have money or life experience, which left them no better off. Like Jeffery Epstein, the Wests knew where to find victims, and how to exploit them. There are thousands of psychopaths born into the world every year. - They have no genuine feelings for their fellow human beings. - They are just born that way. Society tells them that they should care for others, so they learn to pretend to have emotions in an effort to 'fit in.' It's important that parents speak candidly to their children about these issues, because being a psychopath isn't illegal. Acting on bad impulses and getting caught is. Harvey Weinstein enjoyed a very good life for many years - as did Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville. Talk to your children. Tell them about all the wonderful people - like focussed, determined police women - who will look out for them, and come to their aid, however when they are old enough, educate them about paedophiles and psycopaths. Pre-arm your kids. Give them the skills they need to survive and thrive in the world.

[@SoniaSTH]

Couldn't agree more with what you say but it makes me desperate to think it's all preaching to the converted. Lack of awareness, poverty and lack of choices will continue to go hand in hand, inevitably creating new victims (((((

[@paganhawkthornheart1394]

Again the police leave it and leave it. Useless

[@ludekfierlinger4156]

wonder what the neighbours thought ,before they were caught and then after.... such unbelievable evil. The must feel devastated I presume . even if some signs I don't think I could seriously contemplate anyone in my area might be multiplele killer . one assumes very bad stuff will potentially occur by someone you met but such stuff , words do fail . sorry hard to put this into words...

[@SevenGC89]

It's so scary to see exactly what full on uninterrupted child abuse throughout a child's entire upbringing can do to them as a person, I bet you Rose would've developed into a normal mentally stable woman if her sperm donor (I wont use the word father) treated his family like a man should and care, love, and protect them instead of using his own daughter for sexual gratification, it's so fucking disturbing and sick. I'm not playing the sympathy card, she deserves everything that has happened since the murders and she deserves more than just life in prison but I still can't help but feel like it was another human life wasted due to abuse and because of Rose's sperm donor and Fred she was able to transform into someone pure evil which resulted in so many more needless tortures and deaths. This should be a textbook example of how prolonged abuse can change someone into a monster. I feel so horrible for Caroline, having to live with that guilt she carries must be awful. It was not your fault Caroline, we all understand why you dropped the r*** charges at first, honestly if I was in her shoes idk what I would've done, on one hand you tell the truth than it becomes public than you have to testify against him and you will forever be the girl that was r****, or on the other hand you can just drop the charges and try to pretend it never happened and I could see both sides and honestly I don't know what I would do in her shoes, I would want them to pay but I also wouldn't want to be labeled as the girl that was r**** for the rest of my life, I'm so sorry this all happened to you Caroline.

[@GeorgiePotter]

Some shocking wigs and performances in those reconstructions, the best performance in my opinion was from who ever portrayed Rose, she was very convincing.

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

Young rose or old rose?

[@jj-if6it]

What wigs?

[@nunyabiz2016]

How do people become like this? 😮

[@jj-if6it]

Abused as children

[@kellyshomemadekitchen]

@@jj-if6ityes!

[@howardsontz983]

It's hard to believe that the people of that little island once conquered most of the world.

[@kurt479]

Very sad- for the brothers / sisters involved

[@darrynmeadows]

a good argument to reinstate capital punishment

[@jj-if6it]

This is hard to watch, using American documentaries are less graphic. This shows how it was

[@Littleleoshouse]

“Police can’t keep things just in case” um that is literally their job

[@TheWanderingFinnegan]

Nope.

[@kellyshomemadekitchen]

No they can’t however much they may want to at times.

[@lynnschaeferle-zh4go]

Sorry as a woman I hold her to a higher standard. If you bring life into this world you are then a responsible nurturer. But there are 2 kinds of men; the ones who guard and protect because the other kind like Fred are a huge threat to females and children and decency.

[@lizs4796]

Rest in peace to all the victims and sending love to those alive still suffering from the actions of these two monsters. Doesn’t Fred’s brother look like Fred?!

[@CB-xr1eg]

Yes he does, I thought that. Same eyes, and mouth.

[@jj-if6it]

Well they're brothers...

[@rebeccaflowerbeck9894]

stuff of nightmares 😧