Why AAA games are not made in India?

[@ThePhaganax]

Sources are in the description, look into them if you are confused about something. Most data used is from 2022-23

[@setric7_gamer]

Bhai es question and answers Mere paas Bhi Tha, but I don't have no way to convey these type of messages, but thank God that now we have our content creator, which thinks logically, and I think you video on by exposing some video mobile games. They only come to India to just earn money. They don't any intentions to grow gaming industries in India. Keep it up, bro. Keep growing.❤

[@ThePhaganax]

Well, that's how it its, the business goes where the market is, ours is VERY big and besides it's not thier responsibility to grow our industry, they are at the end of the day business's looking to make money. Thank You for your support, I really appreciate it!

[@pushkar-tiwari-99]

Ek console gammer ke liye atleast 5 se 7000 rupees chahiye monthly gaming ke liye. Jaha kebal 3% families hi 1 lakh se jada earn krti h waha itna paisa kon kharcha kare.

[@ThePhaganax]

Exactly, I get the frustration people have but there isn't much that can be done about it until the economy gets to the point where people can support the notion of gaming, additionally games often times are not regionally priced.

[@Coverpage2568]

WTF 5k -7k me pura saal nikal jayega aapka , xbox gamepss aur ps plus me kam price me gaming ho jati hai.

[@pushkar-tiwari-99]

​@@Coverpage2568 old games 😢 new to kharidne hi padete h dusra sb ko lgta h gaming to bache ke liye h

[@pushkar-tiwari-99]

​@@ThePhaganax sb badi problem yahi h America me $50 kuch nhi h pr India me ye 4000 ho jate h upar se govt tax lg jata h

[@Coverpage2568]

@@pushkar-tiwari-99 aap ek month me kitne games kharidte ho ? Games generally sale me hi kharidne chahiye. Aur gamepass pe latest AAA game 500-600 me 1 month ke liye hain. COD Black Ops 6 bhi gamepass me included hain jo 4k me milta hain saperate.

[@WhiteBossGamerYT]

Bro the Video is really amazing and Your points are so strong keep it up Brother,,....

[@ThePhaganax]

Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@roundbrushstudio]

Great video! I've worked in this industry for over a decade now, and you got a few wrong points there buddy, investment, having good hardware, games being graphically intensive and having a big team is just few aspects on why games are called AAA. The whole AAA term comes from the stock, bond and companies rating system, which in layman's terms means high investment and high reward with less chances of defaulting., so AAA means least chances to default, AA a bit less, and then it goes on. These are on my personal observations from me working in the industry here, one of the two biggest reasons why the Indian gaming market hasn't boomed is because India has always been a servicing hub for both VFX and games for 25 years, aka, foreign companies come here, use the cheap labor, and get things done while their core creative team stays in USA, Canada or where ever, India is one of the best countries at it, ngl, so most people holding the upper management position are corporate guys who have experience on paper of 2+ decades but most of the time lack vision (we have personally worked with them when I returned to India) and focus on how to make profits via said games. Second is the culture, India doesn't have a gaming culture, parents tell children to focus on studies rather than playing games, even if they have a laptop or a pc most of them do not buy games due to lack of purchasing power also as you mentioned taxes on consoles, entertainment tax, etc. (one of the biggest reasons why Nintendo doesn't see India as a market). So kids mostly end up playing mobile games, free to play games or pirate games, which leads to upcoming devs having a narrow field of vision of what projects are supposed to be, or driven by money. Only 0.3% of the indian population is on steam on a global level, another huge factor why investors feel like the games won't sell. Now I don't know about how the funds for game development is being allocated by the government, but from what I've heard they're dividing it as a competitive games and non competitive games, I might be wrong. Of course I've started an indie studio myself and we've pitched to a few places which did not yield results but not giving up, things will change over the time!

[@ThePhaganax]

Thank you very much for your detailed response, it's always good have a perspective from a person who has experience working in the industry. Some of the points I didn't include were mentioned in my previous videos, also I hope you achieve success with your studio and game. I will be looking forward to it, as I also stated in one of my previous videos, our gaming culture is just not there yet, I don't think Gaming was even considered as an option until 2017, PUBG phase was an eye opener to the general public about gaming in a way that's serious, I could be wrong on that tho. Thanks for the clarification on AAA definition as well, much appreciated!

[@roundbrushstudio]

@@ThePhaganax I am glad you liked my response though I couldn't go all detailed, I have been making videos myself but its not to the quality of what you're making. I don't think many people and game developers I've worked with in the recent past play anything apart from first person shooter or the one's that are trending online. PUBG and other mobile games revolving around the TDM, MMOG, BR game mechanics took off due to Jio coming with cheap internet on the mobile devices and then COVID lockdowns happening which forced parents to get their children phones. Love the videos on your channel! Continue to produce them! :)

[@ThePhaganax]

Dude I would kill to see people playing games like Undertale and OneShot, hell anything other than minecraft and FPS games(not there's anything wrong with them particularly) but I get it, creators have to fulfill audience demands, been a creator for 6~7 years at this point, so I know how it is. Thank you have for your support! Really appreciate it, I checked out your AAA video, very insightful!

[@AlwaysFurina]

If PS and Xbox see India as a market, then i don't see any reason why Nintendo wouldn't. There are many countries with high taxes.

[@roundbrushstudio]

@@AlwaysFurina its not just about taxes, its about the whole culture of buying games and purchasing power, on a global scale India only contributes $178M for console sales, sure its large but when you compare it to USA alone its not much, $7,900M. Again its about sales at the end of the day, its not like I've worked with nintendo to change their policies hahah but they might change in the future, who knows. For now Nintendo's sales isn't affected much regardless of not targeting the largest population in the world.

[@lighting__gamer]

bro your editing is so good just focus in your script and voiceover and keep going

[@ThePhaganax]

Thank you for the feedback, will keep that in mind

[@Om-yz2wf]

AAA games are made in India for foreign companies.

[@Sumit_Girhe]

Lol bhai kisne bataya tuze ye?

[@Om-yz2wf]

@Sumit_Girhe Most part of rdr2 was made by rockstar india . For more details u can check gaming gossip india latest video on Indian game development history

[@ThePhaganax]

Well, yeah. Om-yz2wf is correct, foreign companies often out source these kinds of processes to countries with cheap labour such ours, you can think of it as like freelancing, in this case Rockstar had setup an indian branch to work on RDR2.

[@Sumit_Girhe]

@@ThePhaganax yeah but they give some portions of game for other studios. We can't say that those games are made in India as @om-yz2wf said

[@ThePhaganax]

Yep

[@mrhanimation]

India contributed so much on rdr 2 😍🔥 and working on vice beach of gta6 ❤ but still waiting for own AAA indian game 🔥

[@Sumit_Girhe]

So much for rdr 2 ? Can you name some contributions with a source?

[@mrhanimation]

@Sumit_Girhe u can see in credits of rdr 2 Whole animal life and their animations including horse animations was made in India

[@Sumit_Girhe]

@@mrhanimation kzbin.info/www/bejne/qojIc6KAh7SFrbMsi=ZUOPWQAwtq149Y1B I don't see any indian guy here.

[@Awesomegamingison]

your video desreve 1.2 millions

[@ThePhaganax]

Thank you!

[@merakiverse]

A very informative video bro ! Anyway... *opens BGMI* PATT SE HEADSHOTT

[@ThePhaganax]

💀

[@ArksideGames]

lol

[@MrGametastic]

One of the reason why Indian can't make good quality triple a games is because agree or disagree our devs don't take big risk that much instead they take more highly inspiration from foreign than our own culture take example of Kamla it's maybe inspired by granny but granny have more replay value than Kamla I hope you get my point problem is not inspiration problem is not having guts to implying new things in Indian game's.

[@MrGametastic]

Also some studious like Gameon don't take feedbacks and advice seriously from audiences heck they don't even comment I have said to release their Temple of Causality in Epic game's but it's been 8months no comments and reply plus let's talk about Indus studious when people where giving feedback they were blocking them in discord so you see our own some Indian studio don't care about game's I feel they're just here to capitalize gaming as business

[@ThePhaganax]

Have to agree with you on the risk taking, our industries play it a little too safe which is understandable, you can see this bollywood pretty clearly, as for GameEon... I have neutral opinions regarding them, but yeah no communication really stings for the player base and the fans, TeamCherry has been radio silent on Silksong since thier initial showcase, Communication should be top priority for any studio tbh, we'll have to wait and see Mumbai Gullies. Indus's launch has been an utter disaster for sure, I did want to make an objective review on Indus but I quickly dropped that idea.

[@AlwaysFurina]

Scenery is changing rapidly, do you think we will have an AAA game from India soon?🧐

[@ThePhaganax]

6-10 years give or take, there needs to be a demand for AAA projects, China only recently released thier first AAA game which is Black Myth Wukong (not sure if Genshin counts? But it does fit the bill of a AAA title, AAA gacha maybe?) We should definitely give time for our industries to adjust. Indies are doing awesome tho, so that's a positive sign if anything.

[@AlwaysFurina]

@@ThePhaganax The problem is that, our devs try to use nationalism as a selling point. Even if they want to use nationalism as a selling point, they should take their time and make a game like Black Myth, that shows Indian mythology and ancient India, but instead they spends money on craps like Indus Battle Royale.

[@ThePhaganax]

The thing is hinduism is an actively practiced religion, it's not like greek religion where people have stopped worshiping the pantheon gods over time, only a very small population of people worship these gods in the modern day, It's hard to make a game on Indian mythology without offending someone's sentiments, a game requires a certain level of freedom in form gameplay or story, or anything else you can think of, I think Japan's model will be quite useful here, blend of mythology and modern, just like how Raji does it. Imagine a game that takes place in an post-apocalyptic India (Future) that's one of the ways I can think to show off our culture through the faith in gods in an apocalyptic future, also agreed... Nationalism shouldn't be game's only selling point, look where that got us *slowly eyes FauG and Indus*

[@AlwaysFurina]

@@ThePhaganax Faug is a rushed decision that tried to leverage on blind nationalism, just because they were adamant to replace PUBG. I believe Indus devs should've better taken their time and instead of making a battle royale game, they should've tried to use the concept on an open world indo futuristic game, infact battle royale isn't the genre where you show your mythology and culture.

[@AlwaysFurina]

@@ThePhaganax Yes Hinduism is a practising religion and non extinct like Greek and Roman religions. Problem isn't that; bollywood has made movies on Hinduism and Indian mythology and nobody said anything, if they portray ancient India and Indian mythology, in a positive way then i don't see any reason it would offend anyone. I am not here for any political discussion, but if a game based on ancient India and Indian mythology breaks global records, i bet left wing ecosystem will get upset and instead they will call it Hindutva propaganda and a propaganda by Modi government to use games as a nationalism tool. So various factors are at play here.

[@JayendraMaravi]

Mai bhi 19 ka ho game developer ho abhi freelance mai kaam karta ho

[@ThePhaganax]

That's awesome!

[@Om-yz2wf]

@@JayendraMaravi paise milte he kya ache? Can u share how much u make

[@JayendraMaravi]

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[@Om-yz2wf]

@@JayendraMaravi thanks for sharing, I was thinking about becoming game dev

[@JayendraMaravi]

@Om-yz2wf agar start karoge bro toh portfolio or social media mai acha presence rakhna yeh pata hoga apko waise bhi all the best

[@_xycor]

Content sahi dalte ho but saal me 1 video kyu😂 regular uploads karo tum hojaoge success content acha hai badme switch bhi kr sakte ho good luck❤

[@ThePhaganax]

Yeah, gonna have to agree with you there, to be fair it's actually 1 month now

[@MrGametastic]

​@@ThePhaganaxI feel it's almost impossible to be regularly daily so try to upload 2 video par months rather than weeks and day's

[@ThePhaganax]

​@@MrGametastic I hope on achieving that. I have to manage two channels so it does take quite some time to get one video out

[@akashsaini5667]

Bro ye to accha apportunity hai. Ek kam karo aap ki team banao aur aap banao games aap banao chhota sa AAA title vala. Jo chiz india me nahi hai aap karo aap se start karenge sab.esi YT channel pe dalna banate hu process aap ko dekh aur log join karenge aur games banenge aap start Karo

[@ThePhaganax]

Game Development is a task that should be left to the people who know ins and outs of game development, Plus mujhe surface to medium level hi knowledge hain game development ka, I could not write a code even if my life deepened on it.

[@Sumit_Girhe]

Bhai chotada AAA title kya hota hai 😭🙏. AAA ka mtlb hi high budget games hota hai. Pahile indie games se start karna hota hai, fir dhire dhire aage badhte hai. I think we need another 2 decades to make any good AAA title as india mai achi movies bhi nahi banti to game to bhot dur ki baat hai.

[@ThePhaganax]

I think they meant AA games but yeah i'd give it a decade or two just to be safe on the expectation side.