Why Adesanya Never Won A Major Kickboxing Title

With another Adesanya UFC title defense just around the corner I thought it would interesting to talk about why Izzy never won a major kickboxing title. And why it's smart to make a sport change if you see somewhere else your style can thrive.
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[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

What do you think of the fact Izzy didn't win a kickboxing title? Was it just a matter of time before he won one? Or was his fight style not ideal for kickboxing and it would have made things difficult?

[@jacopo.dainotto]

@@stanclark3992 hey, dog! Dog, it'll be dog hard, but he'll dog it

[@iandixon7641]

When he fought Jason Willis,it was close,but I thought Izzy won that fight.The judges seemed to prefer the combination punching of Willis where the majority were hitting the gloves to the clean leg kicks landed by Izzy.What’s your opinion.

[@gravy1770]

I would say the Wilnis loss was a straight robbery. That's why he didn't win a major kickboxing title. Glory is notoriously corrupt these days

[@jacktenrec63]

@@razrsliq7623 unstoppable LOL

[@jacktenrec63]

@@gravy1770 LOOOOL

[@pikaprik6607]

Izzy's style translated far better to mma than most kickboxing champs

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

100% agreed. He already moved like an MMA fighter while in the kickboxing ring.

[@M3Lucky]

@@GabrielVargaOfficial His plan was always to be an MMA fighter. He was training BJJ throughout and before his pro kickboxing career already.

[@lennyjenkins9931]

@Spooky Hephaestus Because exaggerated head movements like in Boxing will eventually lead to a kick to the head

[@MB2.0]

@Spooky Hephaestus 👀

[@bpswank429]

@@lennyjenkins9931 izzy always slips and weaves

[@blazeblackk]

He did win a Glory 4 man contender tournament. That’s about as prestigious as you can get out side of a divisional title or world tournament. Was definitely a top 5 middleweight kickboxer.

[@felipe9228]

"major title", fangirl

[@blazeblackk]

@@felipe9228 I don’t really have a strong opinion about Adesanya one way or the other. Certainly don’t consider my self a fan.

[@uncletheoneshotkid3001]

I wouldn’t say he was in the top 5 or even close

[@Ace-zx9sb]

@@uncletheoneshotkid3001 why woukd you get a title shot if your not top 5 you haters turn logic upside down to hate on Izzy. The truth is he left KB to chase his real dream.

[@uncletheoneshotkid3001]

@@Ace-zx9sb nah I agree after interacting with too many pereira fans out there

[@dacedebeer2697]

As a former Karate guy that went over to Boxing afterwards and then Kickboxing this really resonated. In the transition to Boxing from Karate my movement was a big asset, and not having to worry about kicks and such I became very sucessful at being evasive and countering. But going over to Kickboxing/Muay Thai after that I found that I couldn't relly on my evasiveness precisely because the barrage would just go on until it caught up with me, as much as my counters connected, they wouldn't reset my opponent as well as when boxing.

[@ajmjl9102]

I've has the same experience as a shotokan guy I would only move backwards and look for opportunities instead of pushing as much as I should but after a while I got used to pushing and my Karate movement really was useful alot of people only use movement for evasive maneuvers but its just as useful offensively

[@MorganHStewart]

I went from Karate to Boxing too, before MMA, and felt the same positives/negatives. I also noticed how I went through the exact same fighting issues as Conor McGregor. When he focused on boxing, and he became heavy on his front foot, no longer using that karate movement. Exact same thing happened to me when I went back to boxing after MMA, then back to MMA again.

[@ATACXGYMCAPOEIRA]

So what adjustments besides stance, weight placement and tactical readjustment of movement did you make to help you in the ring vs kickboxers? How would you halt, interrupt, or take advantage of the boxing, elbows, clinches, low kicks and knees barrages MMA, Muay Thai heads and ( without the elbows ) kickboxers tend to use? What if you're short like me ( 5'7" ) regularly sparring with professional 6+footers?

[@MorganHStewart]

@@ATACXGYMCAPOEIRA not sure who you were specifically asking, but for me in regards to MMA, I simply became a 'strong' wrestler. And by that, I mean physically strong. If I ever became overwhelmed, I'd wrestler them. More often than not, they couldn't compete with my wrestling as I was physically much stronger, and could easily hold them down, keep position, gas them out and do as I please. I emphasised my point in being physically strong, as this helps when needing to compensate for lack of wrestling skills... which is what I needed to do lol.

[@musayibghani3986]

​@@MorganHStewartConors boxing style was never a problem. He's striking actually looked amazing the only problem was his heavy lead leg making him prone to leg kicks.

[@seantidope4736]

I love watching these reactions from pro fighters on other pro fighters because they give a lot of insight based on their personal experience which gives it a whole new perspective that most people can't see or can't understand.

[@felipe_sousa97]

I guess the size of the ring plays a big part on the game too, in ONE Championship you can see kickboxers using a wider stance and being more evasive because of the bigger cage, Illias Ennahachi is a good example of that style

[@lordimazda123]

Could you make a video about how to be successful in MMA striking, i.e. how to train, how to move, footwork, which strikes to choose etc.

[@bradwirihana5100]

Izzy won the New Zealand King In The Ring Trans Tasman championship tournament 2 years in a row. A MUST WATCH! for anyone who hasn't seen it 💯. Izzy's kickboxing at its finest 👌🏽

[@bpswank429]

When ?

[@killaben85]

Do you think this is a reason a lot of American Style Kickboxers and Non- Kyokushin based Karateka transition more to MMA then Kickboxing as well?

[@animadverte]

Let alone pure muay thai fighters, which are basically not existent.

[@micalzoncillo249]

@@animadverte in mma? schevchenko and petr yan are muay thai fighters, so is volkanovski, and izzy himself trains in tiger muay thai. i always thought that muay thai was the easiest martial art to transition to mma because of the importance they give to the clinch and the trips and throws, motherfuckers study judo moves in muay thai.

[@ThePhenom9x]

@@micalzoncillo249 yan's foundation styles are itf taekwondo and boxing, he trained at the young age and shevchenko also trained tkd at early age before transition to muay thai and kickboxing. But they still have to cross train other arts to get used to mma. Yan later train muay thai and has blue belt in BJJ and Shevchenko has black belt in Judo

[@phank.s.4052]

@@micalzoncillo249 neither have ever fought any meaningful competition in Muay Thai (no offense of Shev but IFMA female divisions in the 2000s is worse than women's boxing). Fiziev is the only UFC fighter that has fought good competition in Thailand.

[@Todo_fighting]

@@micalzoncillo249 love the judos throws from valentina and yan.

[@samcloud7573]

Notification squad 👊🏻🦁

[@bjed21]

His style works better for mma. Guys like sahki would've probably beat him in kickboxing. Even though sahki got ko'd in mma. What works in traditional kickboxing gets you knocked out in mma by less skilled strikers.

[@Andyofwasa]

I cannot understand why guys like Saki, Spong or van Roosmalen try MMA. It is impossible to succeed with guarded stance style in MMA.

[@JayzsMr]

The question would be how would someone like Sakhi fare against Adesanya in MMA ? Would he still get knocked out? If yes why ? Adesanya won't go for the takedown so why should his hands up style not work against Adesanya?

[@flowerswerewarpaint646]

Lack of gloves necessary to cover effectively Bad get up mechanics off slips Clinch positions are very different when grapplings available Adesanya has shot and pulled guard

[@janiron1899]

@@Andyofwasa hm.. depends... Petr Yan does fantastic with it. That said, it might play a role that the gloves are bigger relative to the guys in the lower weight classes, so that it basically is a bit closer to normal kickboixng and boxing, as opposed to MMA striking.

[@cheeks7050]

@@janiron1899 He doesn't ONLY use his guard though, he also has good movement. Saki would literally stand still with his guard up and fire back.

[@holmangao1027]

Kickboxing was never izzy's goal. It was just a way to get to his UFC belt. He actually never meant to stick around in kickboxing as long as he did

[@gheorghebaicu3907]

Good point there! Thank you for your research 🙏

[@ned_right3440]

I never notice that. Thank you Gabriel sensei

[@JehuMartin]

You got a lav mic! Thanks Gabriel, big upgrade in audio quality.

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

Good to hear the audio is better! It's actually the same Rode Pro mic I've been using the whole time. Although about once a month I use my phone to film and that is lousy audio. All I've changed is trying to move the mic as close as possible.

[@JehuMartin]

@@GabrielVargaOfficial Awesome - thanks for all the great content - really appreciate it.

[@chrissalas3196]

Can you do a video on "having an evasive style in kickboxing and muay thai" my only thought is to counter or close and clinch on those 4th and 5th strikes

[@ordinaryfighter9695]

Amazing video, also very true and definitely routing for Izzy at ufc 271 ;). Just a quick question though I’m wondering is there any way you can make a video on throwing more punches/kicks in fights or having a higher output as that’s a thing I find I really struggle with and I can never find myself throwing more than 2 punches

[@tzetzo]

Good observations Gabriel 👍🙏

[@matthew-jy5jp]

Not only are you a incredible champion but you are a very intelligent guy Gabe

[@0n344]

I had some kickboxing fights over 10 years ago. Currently training mma which I've been doing for several years and it's strange to me how much better a striker I am with little gloves and take downs involved. I really don't do well when I put the big gloves back on for "kickboxing" sparring (against other mma fighters) which I do every week. I'm not entirely sure why it is. I am nothing like adesanya stylistically, I'm a stocky pressure brawler

[@justanormalpizza4384]

i had some similar situation too when i spar with my partner at muay thai when i put my mma gloves and then becoming like wanderlei silva or Cris Cyborg in terms of aggressiveness but when i put my 12oz boxing gloves i turned into human punching bag.

[@imtiazheisenburg7512]

Very cool vid

[@BlankethP]

So why are long aggressive combos less common in MMA than kickboxing?

[@christophermorrison2626]

Gloves , distance and reactive takedowns

[@HWHY]

Banger of a sweater.

[@bizmonkey007]

I’ve noticed Israel tends to lean back and counter when being faced with punches in MMA. How do you feel about this tactic? It seems like it could backfire on him one day like it did with Anderson Silva.

[@carloscoto8337]

I think that Anderson Silva loss because he got cocky not for his lean backwards

[@AnnaKuznetzova88]

I always assumed he was glory champion. I thought he had big success there multiple weight class?

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

I think the success he had in multiple weight classes was within the promotion in New Zealand. I believe he fought at one weight class in all his high level international fights.

[@ogloc6308]

He still had a 75-5 record in kickboxing which is pretty damn impressive

[@mouga2690]

@@ogloc6308 fake record

[@lukebaglieri8719]

He lost to Verlinden, Simon Marcus and Wilnis in the 85 kg division ,great kickboxer but definetely not a Petrosyan ,Buakaw ,Souwer,Spong ecc level

[@dittyboxing]

@@lukebaglieri8719 well no shit, those are some of the biggest legends of the sport lol

[@ryans1892]

Izzy said after the Rob fight to be the champ you have to beat the champ. So...

[@dustingaethje1332]

@@ericdoolin6808 That's called beating zhe champ

[@MrHahne440]

Please! A video about Alex Pereira next would be great!

[@ericyoutube77]

This aged well..🇧🇷

[@jacktenrec63]

this is normal stuff as far as kickboxing goes, you fight top guys multiple times and you win some lose some

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

True story. No one is kickboxing goes undefeated. I think Izzy's record is so stellar that makes up for belts.

[@NathanAripez]

Izzy has good stand up especially for MMA. He was good in Kickboxing but it seemed every time he stepped to the elite he came up short. Could be because Izzy always planned on going to MMA and the elite in Kickboxing typically aren’t planning on moving to MMA so all they do is train in striking. If you look at his Kickboxing wins none were against elite strikers. All his losses were. He was just a notch below elite I would say in Kickboxing but still very good. In MMA his striking is considered elite level.

[@austn8675]

To be fair he shouldve gotten the win against pereira the first time, in my opinion he beat simon marcus as well

[@Ios13056]

@@austn8675 Marcus had more damaging shots

[@theseeker7692]

Both Marcus and Pereira fights could've went either way

[@flowerswerewarpaint646]

Being in the top ten in the world kickboxing at any weight pretty much gurantees your one of the top strikers in your division

[@daviddaimary7734]

It's mentioned in the video. His style is pretty much tailor made for MMA. You might have noticed that MMA fighters generally are bad in the pocket because you'll either initiate a grappling exchange or be the one trying to get out of it. Adesanya has always been good at fighting at range. Being a long fighter, he gets to pick his shots and he can see takedowns coming better and doesn't have to worry too much about clinching, trips, throws etc. The term is thrown around far too much but distance management is the name of the game in MMA. In kickboxing, you could walk throw some stuff with a good guard but that is pretty non existent in MMA. High guard and a grappler will put you on your ass. The octagon is about 746 sq ft in size as opposed to 576 sq ft maximum in KB. Tactically very different. To top it off, IA talks about Anderson Silva as his idol. Should speak volumes about what he's actually into.

[@nyashnader1]

Would I be able to become a male champion if I transitioned to female but now I want to transition back?

[@Danilinni]

Nice

[@YimingCai]

Why do MMA fighters throw lesser/shorter combos unlike kickboxing?

[@asAbsolute]

Your hands need to be ready to defend a takedown

[@korbacwystan9333]

@@asAbsolute & counter punches are more deadly

[@AaronGiffordOfficial]

its not true tbh loads of people throw longer combinations just depends on the fighter like izzy who takes advantage of his huge reach advantage so he hits you once and moves away

[@flowerswerewarpaint646]

Easier to shoot a takedown on you while your striking and closing distance People dont tend to stand ground as much or shell up becausr the gloves are smaller, so most ppl are moving away from you after a few shots, limiting the oppurtunities to throw long combos without chasing Alot of MMA ppl arent high level strikers either, striking is a gateway to grappling

[@darkchild130]

Glove weight is a big factor. When every punch can be a ko, offensively and defensively it naturally leads to a more sniping style, throwing big single shots over combos.

[@itsdev5157]

Hi Gabriel. You have a romanian name. Any chance one of your family members is romanian?

[@bigkroner766]

Lots of people thought he got robbed in the first Pereire fight, he’s a spiritual KB champion lol

[@jomk7976]

First Peireira vs Adesanya fight was not for a championship

[@robertsothmann8110]

He was winning the second one too.

[@bidemibadmus5700]

@@robertsothmann8110 he won the first fight against Pereira, like you said, but he was robbed because Pereira was their champion. He was truly winning the second fight as well: he was beating Pererira before Izzy got caught with the lucky punch. In general, I strongly believe Izzy will beat Pererira hands-down if they ever meet in the future...

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

@@bidemibadmus5700 cope bro lol He lost twice. Clearly not the better fighter

[@donnyj5805]

@@Captain_Insano_nomercy better kickboxer? Maybe not. Better fighter? Izzy definitely is. Periera wouldn’t have made it out of the first round in their 2nd fight if it was MMA. Dude got his life saved by a standing count.

[@BlakeAndrewz]

Talk about a storied career it's a resume every combat athlete dreams of Another don't forget dual sport athlete who competed at higest levels in both sports Mr Paul Semtex Daley sparked the glory number 1 contender in a round

[@Sepear305]

Wait who did he ko?

[@hennyspiderman9974]

Badr Hari is a perfect exemple. He’d behead any opponent in kickboxing, in mma that wild style of his gets him took down and gassed trying to get up

[@chitownp1noy]

It’s harder to commit to strikes in mma than kickboxing. The threat of the takedown is always there. That’s why mma fighters throw in 2’s and 3’s, not 5-6 volume combos.

[@danimation4391]

Are those your belts behind you?

[@kaz5150619]

Not KOTC in New Zealand King of The Ring but i understand your confusion

[@fleshreap]

Think Wilnis-Adesanya in Glory was also in a smaller ring. Definitely didn't help Izzy.

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

Yeah. I was watching that fight yesterday. That ring looked so small. I don't know why GLORY would have anything less than 20x20. That should be a minimum size.

[@fleshreap]

@@GabrielVargaOfficial was a while ago so I'm sut entirely sure, maybe the small venue dictated the smaller ring size.

[@animadverte]

I have just an objection I would like you to elaborate on. Petr Yan. He relies a lot on just an high guard and marching forward.

[@tin1131]

Petr has absurd takedown defense. He can get away with striking like a pure conventional boxer/kickboxer. Prime Aldo was sorta the same in that Aldo can strike and check leg kicks like a Dutch kickboxer from a kickboxing/Muay Thai stance because of his TDD.

[@minedgravy380]

@@tin1131 Petr Yan also makes people pay for trying to hit him, he counter's with heavy 3-4 strike combos if you throw at him.

[@jacktenrec63]

Yan is very defensively responsible and economical and smart with his floorwork there are no benefits associated with keeping your hand low, Israel already paid for his sloppy defence VS Pereira and he was also KO vs a club fighter in a boxing match, relaying on your reflexes for defence shouldn't take priority over high guard and footwork Besides Yan is usually shorter guy and he fights more aggressively then Adesanya who thanks to his lenght is content to wait for his opponent's attacks

[@AnnaKuznetzova88]

@@jacktenrec63 there is benefit for low hands. Faster hand speed and punch takes munch different angle, less wind up harder to see coming. Why do u think roy jones, muhammed ali, adesanya have so much success with this style? U bait out big punch then counter with fast low hands

[@jacktenrec63]

@@AnnaKuznetzova88 keeping your hands low allow you to punch faster? OK It is always a pleasure to talk to so called MMA fans, their opinions and ideas about fighting will never cease to amaze me

[@kuryanthomas1438]

thats the crazy thing, esp if alex wins a 205 lb title as well, i would say alex pereira will go down as being a greater combat fighter than izzy, (2 titles in glory, while izzy has 0, and both have won the 185 lb ufc title).

[@finessekid3661]

difference is pereria has 0 title defenses in ufc

[@frozenmallet09]

Izzy won 70+ kick boxing bouts to Alex’s 33. He also has won 11 MMA bouts currently. If you are judging goats based on peaks than Connor mcgregor is the goat for his run.

[@bubblewhip382]

Gabe's just making this to flex on Izzy ;)

[@trimakin6148]

🤣

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

Haha. All Izzy has to do is show me his UFC belt and fight purse and I'm smoked 😉

[@bubblewhip382]

@@GabrielVargaOfficial But he will never have the GLORY.

[@gabriellafond8914]

Izzy’s striking and evasiveness will be a nothing but a highlight tomorrow night ! Hope that Whittaker got his ground game and striking defence up though… only for his sake lmao ! 🔥✊💪🔥

[@isdatbochi]

💯

[@jeremyjordan6786]

That's an interesting point not often talked about. The fact that some of his loses are controversial speaks alot. To this day I truly believe he beat Jason.

[@blase9786]

When are you gonna fight in Karate Combat?

[@ives3572]

Well, it's much better to win UFC gold since it's MMA rather than just winning kickboxing gold since it's limited combat (just my opinion obviously)

[@Ramin2340]

MMA is less specialised though. It's much harder to win a Boxing or Kickboxing title because everyone is already an expert in the techniques available. Whereas in MMA the best practices are not known and you can be good in one thing which other guys don't have.

[@LifeAndDef]

But the UFC title is handed out by the promoter and not won by working your way through rankings, instead you only fight within the promotions roster. Other sports world titles governing odies hold titles. Other sports champs fight champs.

[@dittyboxing]

@@LifeAndDef huh? Kickboxing is literally ruled by promotional belts. This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen lol. Not to mention boxings governing bodies ruin the sport and hand out belts like it’s nothing. How many fucking wbc belts do u need for one weight class?

[@dittyboxing]

@@LifeAndDef not to mention you work your way through the ufc rankings to get the title 🤦🏼‍♂️ ur dumb as a box of rocks

[@vietnamsemonky4082]

@@LifeAndDef do you think you can just get signed to the ufc and your first fight will be against the champ? No you have to work through the rankings in your weight class like every other combat sport, I’d love to see cross promotional title bouts better the ufc and bellator or ONE but that’ll most likely never happen. But what MMA doesn’t need is 10 different lightweight belts all held by different people and then that gets held up by unifications/injury/one governing body having different rankings so we don’t know who should actually fight for the belt, it would be a terrible mess. Tldr you don’t know anything about mma rankings and belts.

[@kaz5150619]

Lol i keep staring at the Bellator kickboxing belt talk abput a promotion of lost oppurtunity

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

I believe their plan with kickboxing promotion was fill the stadium with kickboxing fans. Then hope they stay to watch the MMA card and become a fan of that sport. MMA was not as popular as kickboxing in Italy, Hungary, etc (at least that's how it was explained to me).

[@popandlock69]

I initially was a big fan of adesanya but over time he’s pushed me away from supporting him. I like this breakdown of his style it’s very informative & brings a lot of clarity to watch we’ll be watching this weekend

[@azieldaly2965]

"Pushed me away from supporting him" LOL ! Why even mention that.

[@minoadlawan4583]

I prefer the striking in MMA than kickboxing. The thread of takedowns really does change everything.

[@luiz9672]

That's cuz his daddy alex made him his son

[@gregwong2132]

The fact is, the MMA fighters aren't technically as good in striking as the Glory fighters so Israel looks like Roy Jones against them.

[@joshuamclauchlan5945]

1 year later He knocked out Alex

[@alpomartinez117]

The reason he never won a kickboxing title is because he was a different fighter back then He's way better fighter now

[@Kimmilloyd7581]

Finest my a$$!

[@NakMuayPhilippines]

You win fights but not all the time.

[@ioannisbougios1451]

Well Israel is celebrated as one of the best kickboxers in mma, while Valentina Schevchenko who held a major world title (Kunlun) is kind of overshadowed. Anyway, I am so happy for Israel's jump to mma, he is a gem

[@jacktenrec63]

Ok who fought more skilled opponents Adesanya or Schevchenko?

[@jingles2672]

tbh he retired pretty young

[@johnw2235]

Israel isn’t retired lmao

[@RF456.]

could be another solution instead of kickboxing to MMA. for example from kickboxing to muay thai with mma gloves? like with one fc? or is that not comparable🤔

[@aleksei3834]

If its true then its only mean that belts are not important 😂

[@tilelate9718]

Gokhan Saki crossed over to kickboxing, and did shite. That high guard, heavy footed stance doesn't do too well when people can dive for your legs and slip punches through your guard of 4OZ gloves. Kickboxers who have transitioned well into MMA have been slick, evasive and use their eyes for defense more than heavily relying on the guard. Fighters like Stephen Thompson, Israel Adesanya and Cory Sandhagen.

[@ambikasharma301]

He got robbed against wilnes

[@Jeremy-jw7qb]

Rob won 2 4 5

[@luiz9672]

Sounds like a shit load of excuses

[@blazeovich]

I've watched all these fights, and besides the Pereira KO, Adesanya was cheated in all of those other fights.

[@L2kneel]

Adensanya saw the level of strikers in MMA and thought this is a done deal I’m just gonna style on these wrestlers and grapplers. If he wouldve stayed in kickboxing he would’ve probably fought Alex 5 times already by now.

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

Yes. And I've always thought fighting the same guy over and over would get a bit boring.

[@micahasher7600]

I think he makes 700,000 per fight

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

Haha. Yeah he's doing well. And probably picking up solid PPV money as well.

[@wenceslasebe1003]

Hé was robbed at glory against willis

[@sshy153]

I hope Izzy will lose this weekend. Whittaker is such a nice person.

[@GabrielVargaOfficial]

Whittaker is so likeable. I'm hoping Adesanya's personality is mostly for show. I fought with him on GLORY but never actually spoke with him so I can't comment how he actually is.

[@jacopo.dainotto]

Not a fan of Israel, but I hope it will be a good fight, nontheless. Adesanya is good, but not great. Sometimes, it's like he doesn't want to actually win his fights. Romero fight, he touched his leg. Vettori fight, spent more time clowning than capitalizing on the opportunities, and again, touched his leg. Jan fight, he didn't give it all when he was clearly behind on points. I get the "he was never in danger" comments, but so the guys I mentioned above. Now, I believe that's normal when it comes to world champions fighting, it becomes more of a "do just what it takes to keep the belt" type of fighting and I do respect it. Make no mistake, I like it when a champion displays masterful performances that sets him levels above of the competition, I just do not like all ways of doing it. I do not pay much attention to what most people say, as a matter of fact, I tend not to follow the mass, I don't think Adesanya is that impressive.

[@mr.e6748]

@@jacopo.dainotto Exactly, thats why I respect Usmans style more. He always brings the heat even in title fights.

[@jacopo.dainotto]

@@mr.e6748 man, I watch fighters like Mayweather, Petrosyan, etc... Who oftenly find themselves in not so exciting fights, but they always make it clear they're the best men, and they do it flawlessly. With Adesanya I don't see it at all...

[@ogloc6308]

combat sports aren’t about being nice though lmao