Why Android 21 is PERFECT unlike Cell

[@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo]

"I may look like an adult, but technically I'm not even ten years old." Android 21, Dragon Ball FighterZ

[@March14thTheDayThatKrabsFrys]

IM GOING TO JAIL

[@hasbruh2987]

​@@March14thTheDayThatKrabsFrys Not even Vegito pulling me out

[@MatthewJamesKalasky]

Designed as an adult, with the mind of one. Biological vs chronological

[@ShadowFri3nd]

she is basically the last character Toriyama created before passing away, hopefully she will be canon in DB Super.

[@oKenshinHimura]

Well not really...He last was working in Dragon Ball Daima which has some new characters. So those are the latest ones he made.

[@ryanthecringeanimator9541]

Maybe Sparking Zero will make her canon

[@ShadowFri3nd]

@@ryanthecringeanimator9541 i doubt that.

[@ryanthecringeanimator9541]

@ShadowFri3nd me too but I love 21 so here's my sliver of hope the secret bonus character is her

[@ShadowFri3nd]

@@ryanthecringeanimator9541 i think she will appear on sparking zero but it will not make her canon, the only way could be Toyotaro on the DBS manga, its a big"if" but its possible.

[@alexfraser8352]

Dr. Gero got a bigger W than Krillin did. How did that old geezer win THAT?!

[@chefinabottle]

It isn't like bro spawned in old as shit. Until proven otherwise, I like to think Android 13s design is based on a younger Gero

[@aster4jaden]

@@chefinabottle I love this theory.

[@syler100]

First Dr. Gero and Vomi were young when they were married and have their 2 sons. Secondly Japanese women age differently as some of them looks much younger than their age would suggest. Thirdly Gero made a21 and 16 looks how he remembered his beloved family.

[@CeeDoubleU]

​@@syler100True. I met Japanese women that were in their 30s and looked like they were 19

[@windows98alpha35]

What blows my mind is some DB fans think that when a character debuts in their design they believe they always looked like that their whole lives. Did you really think Gero just started life in his 70s? LMAO C'mon

[@Sugar_SpiceDB7ZS]

As a huge Android 21 fan I love it whenever I see videos discussing her potential introduction in the series. This vid made my day, thanks Scholar 🤝🏽

[@tremor6697]

@@Sugar_SpiceDB7ZS I’m android 21 fan

[@lordMartiya]

I would introduce her as early as the Battle of Gods arc as a female researcher for Capsule Corp, possibly a high-ranking one, and note she has amnesia about part of her life, a certain interest in the Androids (in fact she helped Bulma fix 16), and can reliably out-eat Vegeta. And then, after witnessing Cell Max' defeat, Carmine activates the Red Ribbon's final weapon, the one Magenta considered so dangerous he'd rather track down Hedo and develop the Gammas and Cell Max rather than use - Android 21.

[@supersaiyangodshallot8742]

Android 21, evil clones, and secret labs makes the DB story more interesting.

[@kotormaster1975]

to be honest i would introduce 21 in a way that was after the Tournement Of Power and start with a flashback of her memories of her times with Gero and the kids the ideas she had that were actually implemented or mayber her figuring out the last part Gero needed for 17 and 18's infinite power supplys sort of think but it was ment to help others instead and Gero altered it alittle after she had passed, we hear her thoughts on how she felt maybe afew other things and then we hear that she hungers, shes not quite sure what this hunger means but the voice in her head keeps saying that part of her hungers, She wakes up in a tank similar to cell but at the old red ribbon army base instead as a last hidden base Gero had before he died, she breaks out of it out of panic and confusion and then she looks around and remembers its her husbands lab the last 1 she saw and she remembers a accident but she doesnt remember all of the details, she grabs some clothing sadly these are torn but usable and heads out to go look for someone to help that she could possibly remember and after a while of walking she finds a small town, she sees a guy and asks him if he knows anyone of great intellegence, he mentions of the brief family and offers her a lift after giving her alittle food, they get to the city and the guy gives her some last directions to Capsule Corp, after he leaves she makes her way there and she has a sharp pain in her head and she remembers Dr Briefs as someone her husband mentioned before and then the voice in her head Speaks again "Hunger ......." she still doesnt understand what this could mean as she doesnt feel hungry for food so she ignores it and carries on to Capsule Corp, she is noticed by someone who works there who asks if she is ok and if she needs help, she says that she is looking for Dr Briefs as she believes her Husband knew him, this employee offers to take her to him and she accepts, when she reaches there she is brung to Dr Briefs who is trying to figure out a complex equasion for a project he has been working on but can't quite figure it out, she sees he is having difficulty and starts to figure out the equasion and writes it down, she goes to him and askes "will this help with your problem?" he turns around and asks who she is, sadly she can't remember her name but she remembers other things so she just told him she didn't know her own name but she remembers the Dr Gero was her husband not knowing what he had done, Dr Briefs is shocked at this as he knew some of what Gero had done but knew she needed help, "come with me" he says "i'd like to you explain to me how you came to this conclusion for this equasion of mine? i've been stumped for a while now and yet you solved it in about a minute" he was shocked because he didnt see this before and yet this woman who claims to be Geros wife came into his lab and proceded to solve this puzzle of his, after the questions to find out all she knew there would be tests to check her mind to see if there is any damage and a medical checkup, after this is done the same person who brung her here came back with some clothing for her that they thought would fit a checkered blue and red outfit nothing too fancy and nothing too plain, "i'm glad they fit, we couldnt let you continue in those rags now could we?" she looks at the outfit and feels theres something missing but she wasnt quite sure what, she looked around and saw a lab coat that belonged to no1 no tag or anything "go ahead try it on if you'd like" Dr Briefs would say to her, she proceeds to put it on and it just felt right to her and Dr Briefs could tell she liked it so he allowed her to keep it, "if you'd like you could stay here? plus if you wouldnt mind you could help us with our research?" she looked at him alittle surprised since he didnt know her atall and she thought on it alittle "only untill you get on your feet so to speak, dont worry we wont force you if you dont want to" she looks around the lab and sees all there is there and decides "Yes i will thank you very much" and she stayed there for a while helping with so many projects helping perfect soem of the tech in the lab helped refine Vegeta's Grvity Chamber and even helped add in a holographic system that could be solidified for training purposes.

[@donhoover23]

I think that it would add a lot of depth to Dr. Gero's character in terms of his true motivations regarding making the perfect android if his original intention was to save his wife from death by making her a bio-android. Perhaps she had a terminal illness after awhile, and both of them were brilliant minds and Gero may have taken the funding from RR Army to pursue that. (It'd be even more of a plot twist if the RR Army is the one that gave her the illness for that reason) It woulld explain why Gero would be so hellbent of revenge against Goku, as he could have had his wife there as an android (but in stasis due to needing more info and tests before activation, or perhaps her personality was altered). It'd be really cool to see Vomi with a tragic story like that, now awake in a world where she may be confused and trying to adjust and had been undercover. It may give Hedo some family and he could learn from his grama.

[@mpangamponga1514]

Dragon Ball needs more female fighters.

[@Golemoid]

no it doesn't

[@sugma69420]

Nah not really

[@ladaal8867]

@@Golemoidwhy not?

[@ladaal8867]

@@sugma69420how so? It doesn’t have many.

[@Golemoid]

@@ladaal8867 Because it's doing fine as it is, it doesn't need to change.

[@kirkkeichinger4534]

Question. In GT the reason giving for the evil dragon arc and the world being destroyed is because the dragon balls are being used too much. In the new movie, balma has been using the dragon balls for cosmetics. Canon and none canon, I find this really hurts balma character. Because if you still consider GT Canon like i do. It makes balma responsible for the events of the evil dragon arc.

[@danielramsey6141]

Makes sense for both her and 21! As Clearly they both desired to maintain their own outer Beauty while still remaining top-tier scientists.

[@avp2daily]

I wish we got more figures of her. I was hoping Banpresto would add her to the Glitter & Glamours line but it looks like they stopped doing Dragon Ball characters for this line.

[@Paradoxe_0]

21 is cool and all, but you don’t understand Perfect Cell is PERFECT, it’s in the name

[@jakeforgey5378]

Perfect Cell was so Perfect he became imPerfect... He was written to become so Absolutely Perfect a combination of the Z-Fighters and Frieza who was the biggest threat to them, and in the end he became TOO powerful (and too hard to draw) which made him the Ultimate Perfection, an Unreachable Being who COULDN'T BE SLAIN, the FINAL BOSS of the series in terms of WHAT he could become... HELL he could simply get nearly annihilated, pop out a small Cell bunch and Final Flash himself to death and revive via his cells and become INFINITELY more powerful EVERY DAY... and if he actually trained? Yeah he had more capacity than FRIEZA, GOKU AND VEGETA combined... BUT in exchange him being destroyed also showed he was NOT PERFECT like he thought he was... honestly yeah the writing did him dirty by that, but they HAD to get rid of him if they wanted the series to have other arcs and things to become semi-normal...

[@hailmammonmoments7568]

Can she give us a story that doesn’t rely on Goku and vegeta? Then we have to give it to her. 🤷‍♂️

[@kyomoto2084]

U didn't watch the movie super hero huh

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

Seeing a younger Gero makes me think, Android 13 could be related to him. It wouldn't be a surprise. But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

[@CupidSmurf657]

Keeping the red ribbon scientists alive and them still being somewhat evil or whatever is great for the possibility of android 21 but I feel Goten and Trunks should have 2 mini bosses they have to use ssg to fight other than her and she goes all evil buu form and gotenks pulls out ssb in the end

[@onisfury8264]

Her designs are interesting her story in the game was okay though she could have been in the original dragon Ball anime series where she was involved in helping Dr Gero creating Cell she later regrets seeing humanity being gobbled up by cell and decides to help Gohan and the z fighters defeat Cell.

[@VOAN]

I like how Dr. Gero based his entire family into his androids. Maybe Cell was based on his dad.

[@kin4386]

As 21's self proclaimed biggest fan, as much as I'd love for her to become canon in Super somehow, a big part of me kind of likes the role she currently has. Being a video game only character that in some way appears in all of them. She's like THE Dragon Ball gaming mascot. I think that's cool.

[@ScorchingProductions1]

Probably the only time that you need to change the thumbnail asap. NOTE: So it has been updated to be slightly better but Android 21 by herself would have been great.

[@chriscassul9904]

yes yes yes yes yes yes😑😮‍💨

[@AtomicDenson]

I personally don’t read the manga. But I do watch videos talking about what goes on in the manga. But if I were to introduce android 21 into the manga and then later anime. I would maybe have it be that hedo discovers files for another android by his father. He looks through the files and learns that the android is based on his mother. (*Considering Hedo is likely younger than android 16’s human model. He likely has little to no memories of his actual mother.*) and by only using what’s in the notes he makes this new android. However, wanting her to be strong enough so she doesn’t get killed. He uses the cells from various villains and this would later give birth to 21’s evil personality. Which she would have to wrestle with to make sure she doesn’t hurt the people around her. Especially as she comes to connect with various characters.

[@Neilmaduray4165]

She's the ultimate

[@Miniperfectcell]

Yup, you're going on the list

[@BlackPoisonGamez]

Sadly most fans are just Simps now lol

[@kotormaster1975]

Yep and proud of it lol

[@katherineevangelia11]

i ask Chat GPT, it said to me android 21 can eat anyone except Whis if they are not prepared just like Frieza soldier shot goku LOL and also each time she eat Android, she will evolve, with a few different part here and there, just like other android that eat / absord other android, like cell to perfect cell, android 17 become Super Android 17 and 1 other android that absorb 2 android, and android 21 herself after eating perfect cell.

[@danielramsey6141]

Honestly! I can see why 21 turned herself into an Android/Gynoid/ or Cyborg, and then further improved herself. The Truth is that she’s much like Bulma. She was wants to retain her sexy, youthful appearance. Not wanting to be so consumed like Doctor Gero. Yet still had a desire for wanting to defeat Goku. It’s just that she had no idea how Powerful he had gotten.

[@rickeymorgan87]

Evil goten; trunks is obsessed with beast gohan and wants to fuse with him.goten see trunks fan boying and tries to get stronger.training with gohan and piccolo(which turns out too much.),so he trains by himself.starts to think that gotenks was a joke to the other fighters,bc he was so weak and ill trained.he remembers the tells of future trunks and wants to use it to tell his younger self to keep training and not give up.that we would need his strength.goten goes to the boo saga and gives his younger self the message.ends up fighting boo and barely escaping.he helps gotenks open the portal in the time chamber. To get out. A piece of boo sneaks into the time machine and rides back to the present. The blob of pink makes its way to a prototype Android that the fat guy from super hero. Had started and the blob animate her body and gives her a weakness,of not being at full power. The Android promises goten more power and turns him against trunks and beast gohan. Throughout the fight goten shows stronger then trunks and piccolo,but gohan doesn't want to go beast on h but And.21 forces beast out of him.beast gohan ends up weakened do to jumping in the way of a blast(call back to when piccolo gave himself for gohan sayian saga.)goten sees that and snaps out of 21s control and fuseS with trunks to give us a ssj3 gotenks that is serious and gotenks feels the new power and as they fight. Goten tells trunks about what he did and it was all his fault but then they fuse and goten feels the power up he got from his time travel. He tells trunks in the third person that he learned some new techniques thanks to his younger self and that gives us a new finisher to drull over.

[@TevyaSmolka]

She looks so cool 😎

[@KadSkirata]

I like her design alot, but her story could be alot better; she's Cell 2.0 - the GOAT antagonist of DB with the bonus of some Buu DNA added to the mix.

[@TuEIite]

Love the design

[@darthsidius9631]

I wouldn't give her meaningful amount of power when comparing to Goku or vegetables

[@ryszakowy]

why did she have to be gero's wife like what the fuck either a saiyan hybrid android android with dna of all previous villains and heroes or god of gods crowned by the god himself can't we get a character that's just original? remember bojack coming out of nowhere? goddamn jiren? anyone from tournatment of power who wasn't from universe 7 and 6 for that fact why everything has to be connected to either cell games or majin buu

[@Rickest_Wojt]

I wonder if someone will ever animate a battle between Android 21 and Future Trunks?

[@ladaal8867]

That would be neat

[@SkyeRedd910]

I think Hedo could start her with his new lab at capsule Corp. They talk about fixing 16 and he remembers his brother and family. He made her off of the blueprints he memorized trying to make a better version of cell that he actually likes. Based it off his mom. Red Ribbon steals the model before Hedo can stabilize the Buu cells and it finishes in its own. She starts out innocent and runs away from RR army cause they are sketchy and she is confused. She runs into Uub. The two Buu souls meeting sets off an evil energy in them both. 21 disappears but Uub goes frantic. Goten and Trunks fight and calm down Uub befriend him. Uub tells them about 21 and they hunt her down as a team. Goten Trunks and Uub find her and can't stop her. Gohan Piccolo Goku and Vegeta come in to save the day. They do the spirit bomb to stop her. She reverts back to good right before she dies. And her motherboard is damaged but intact

[@chaosthemultiversesamurai4544]

Personally, I am sick of the red ribbon army for quite a few reasons, but I do enjoy vomi/21 in my opinion they should retcon her dearth and bring her into the story she is just humans who helps bulma and left her husband because she saw how corrupt he became and didn’t want to be with him anymore in terms of her children not going with her she could of offered but both decided to stay idk, I feel like vomi could aid the vegeta, goku with her tech analysing threats and They use her research they can use in ways that’s not fighting abs not annoying like how bulma is sometimes, side note I miss her og actress Tiffany

[@Bowen_Landry]

I love bother her designs. Especially her buu like form. I really need to get that game lol.

[@MarkoSelfmade]

Yea she need a movie this looks cool

[@gzayorvus3195]

I wish dragon ball: the breakers add her as a raider. And it is not uncommon for fighting game to have top tier character that are far superior than most in several field, so I think they shouldn't nerf her in fighterZ, maybe just ban her from tournaments/ranked but give the player an unrestricted ranked match option for those that don't mind fighting her...

[@ebering4.039]

Well, strengthwise I really am not sure, the entire overarching plotline for fighterz was that there were waves inhibiting the strength of the z fighters to a massive degree, which then led to necessating the "soul" aka the player to balance things out. However the stength of x z fighter was still limited by how good the soul itself understood the fighter in question, which was the whole link thing. The whole time during the arcs we did not see someone like beerus interfere, or Goku/vegeta use any form of god ki because the "soul" itself couldn't grasp it. So like, the entire time the fighterz story arcs more or less were around buu saga strength which is....don't get me wrong still impressive that android 21 was more or less holding everyone of them off, but like, we can all probably agree that if it weren't for the powerinhibiting waves then it wouldn't have escalated to that point. Because everyone was at their max potential. That would include the god forms. So if she were to be brought back in the actual dragonball super timeline....at least if you want her as a fighter, then you'd have to make her as strong as the gammas or above that. Or well, you just keep her as a researcher, but in my opinion that would be wasted potential for a design as interesting as hers. With the buu, cell and frieza abilities and ultra fast learning. There was a scene with goku where he noticed her incredible learning speed, first when she mastered instant transmission almost immediately and second, in some of the "pre-battle" scenes. Goku basicly said: Damn, you have incredible potential and you get stronger by fighting strong opponents just like us saiyans, so we'll have you fight lots of baddies to get you up to speed and once all this is over, I can't wait to have a go against you on friendly terms. Goku saw the combat potential, so her just being a researcher would be a bit dissapointing. Her being both tho, now that would be great imo

[@ladaal8867]

Uh in the final story arc 21 ate the wave machine which destroyed the waves for everyone. And even then the z fighters combined couldn’t beat her, vegeta noting that even with their full power (blue and blue kkx10) they can’t beat her. Strength wise she is very strong.

[@Micalex]

I'm at work rn, so all ima say is how does a bhaddie like android 21 end up with Gyru💀

[@allenkeith7160]

The Androids in DB and DBZ always confused me slightly. Because some are indeed Robotic Androids, and some of them are just modified and "Reprogrammed" Human Cyborgs. Like 17 and 18 were (If I remember correctly) siblings/twins who were modified genetically and cybernetically. I personally still wouldn't call those two Androids, and yet a friend said in some ways, with enough modification and alteration they could technically be organic "Androids" at that point due to the mental reprogramming. So yeah, it confuses me a bit sometimes. But I still liked it all in the end.

[@jessehutchings]

Dragon Ball is definitely overdue for a female main villain. I wouldn't be surprised if the franchise has shied away from it simply because they don't want a major focus of male versus female violence

[@android21evil19]

Android 21 Evil and Good are the best characters to me of all time.

[@josuemerigo4506]

I like her and was happy she was implemented in the game. More the fact that I play games with my gf or sisters and no matter what they always pick girl characters. there’s barely any and makes me glad I can play games with them and they have a good time too B’c there’s some girl characters they can pick from. I know DBZ is more for guys but Wish there were more or put young adult ChiChi when she first was in the tournament

[@iyadmamdouh6908]

Legend keeping dragon ball alive

[@belle4107]

I personally like android 21 because we needed more female characters, and I am a fan of androids, but I hate the main form. It’s honestly pretty cringe, and looks nothing like an android.

[@nexusgaminguniverse3722]

She looks like Majin

[@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegion]

Wait what do you mean by need????

[@PsmTrey-Man]

the main female cast consist of Android 18 Chi chi Bulma Videl That’s it. If you wanna be petty then you can add kale and caulifla but they only had their TOP appearance and if your adding them then add every other female nobody in the TOP

[@rampantkitsune450]

Cell didn't look like the other Androids either

[@VOAN]

@@nexusgaminguniverse3722 She looks like Buu is what you're trying to say. Majin is just a description word that means mind puppet. That's why Majin Buu and Majin Vegeta got that name.

[@BananaR777]

This would be hilarious if this was canon version of Ms.buu

[@asahearts1]

Thinks not making sense in dragon ball is just par for the course.

[@stanleech666]

i remember before we found out about Cell Max, i was hoping for 21 being the final boss. disappointed

[@andret3739]

I like her base form and her majin form but her being an android that turns into a majin never sat well with me. Majin form should have gotten a slight redesign and have been a separate character

[@ssjgotenks2009]

no dude that what you tyep fans arw what worn with day db you wan forms to be srpate that jsut domb it take up roster spa for mroe charater form are form should be transofrmin into not sprpate

[@padraig-bobotia-maria5176]

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[@Knk_Nugis]

Android 13 is based on young Dr Gero. Do video about it.

[@Gojita_official]

Bro youre turning into Ebulinence

[@sogravvyproductions4176]

How can an android have magic powers though?

[@TailorBlaze]

*barks on all fours* She's a baddie aight'

[@mightythunderfoot]

Dragon Ball has a distinct lack of relevant female fighters. Android 21 would be a welcome addition to the cast. I really don't think having Goten and trunks be the focus of her story is a good idea. For a couple of reasons, some of them more polite than other reasons. The biggest reason is that Goten and trunks aren't relevant (power wise). Having them handle Android 21 would make her not a threat. If the object of the story is to flip her and make her a good guy to increase the cast female fighter pool... this is not the way to go. The prime cast has to interact with her, and it should end with her good side surviving. (And they should have her be a relevant cast member.)

[@judahlagrange8286]

Uh does he know that Toriyama dies?

[@SaiyanScholar]

This was recorded and scheduled way before.

[@adambriton5394]

All 21 is to me is waifu bait

[@MrSa458]

I'd really like to see a android 21 arc just because of the simple that I didn't know that Dr Drou had a wife I guess it'll be a family affair But anyways God bless everyone who comes across this comment 🪽🔥✝️🙌🏽

[@King_Zahndo3612]

Hey

[@rashedplayz5396]

W

[@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179]

Extremely hot waifu, so who cares, I'll take it.

[@jessehutchings]

What is this thumbnail 😂

[@princejamerson1]

It was very refreshing to have Android 21 added into the dragon ball roster, especially when I’m so sick and tired of dragon ball being dominated by male characters, most of the female characters are so useless nowadays only Android 18 is the only female fighter available despite 18 being a mom

[@kamenrangerzeo8251]

Android 21 is one of the most popular new breakout characters that dragon ball ever had. She is one of my waifus that I’d would ship Goku and her together. Plus there were times some of Goku’s friends we’re teasing her about being with Goku. I love everything about this powerful & beautiful majin Android.

[@b-8437]

I remember the good old days when SOME of the guides would refer to Cell as android 21.

[@gabemesa3921]

🍫🍰

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

I would just have Goku get OG73 from Granola’s planet in the Heerterz ship and have Bulma and Vomi’s grandson look at it. Thanks to how OG73's abilities work, he would be able to make an Android version of his grandma, without the hunger, but it is Vomi, the wife of Gero, mother to the son Goku killed. She would simply just want to get revenge for her family being killed by the Z warriors. Also, I'm sick of the bio-androids just having copied powers. Just make her a mix of Mahoraga, and Janemba. Always evolving, adapting, and finding ways to outsmart or defeat foes. I'm sure most fans love seeing the bio-androids using the techniques of past characters, but I just want a bio-android with their own moveset.

[@ColonelMetus]

Android 21 isnt canon

[@STILLWILLPHOTO]

They should have used Launch that would have been a great plot development

[@nexusgaminguniverse3722]

Because DB is garbage

[@joeclaridy]

Super Dragonball yes.

[@nexusgaminguniverse3722]

@@joeclaridy everything are garbage no exception💁🏻

[@silversobe]

Looks like a recycled female buu

[@TienMostPowerfulEarthlingOfAll]

Ya it’s stupid like how can you mix that into an Android when there’s no way those timelines Majin and Android could ever merge. Like is she a robot or does she turn ppl into donuts and candy which is stupid af in its damnself. Majin was created once thousands of years ago in a distant galaxy and didn’t appear on Earth till after Cell. How can she be created as one now Gero never heard of or seen Majin Buu before he died?

[@jakeforgey5378]

@@TienMostPowerfulEarthlingOfAll Android like cell, but with Majin Buu dna mixed in. How that works, no clue, but that is her given story for her existing...