Why Are Car Top Speeds Getting Slower?

[@mikeallan7740]

A lot of supercar manufacturers don't even bother to test their vehicles top speed so they just slap a 217mph figure on the spec sheet, a guy drove a LaFerrari at over 230mph on the Autobahn, quite a bit faster than it's stated top speed.

[@BladedAngel]

Hmmm, maybe Ferrari is stating it lower to please lawmakers? But then are actually like "PSYCHE, IT GO 230MPH ALL ALONG, SUGGGGGG ON DEEZNUTZ LAWMAKERSSSSSSS"

[@a-lambo-boi]

​​@@BladedAngeley, we should be taking notes! ( BTW, also from Leicestershire)

[@benjaminmatute9085]

Only Ferrari understands the car enthusiasts need tor speed

[@AB-fr2ei]

Also this

[@Starfire_Storm]

Yeah, everybody knows that the Aventador and it's variants can go faster than 217 mph. Or as you said, Ferrari, they pretty much have 3 top speeds they'll always give, 217 mph for the flagship like the LaFerrari, which may have been true back with the Enzo that has a top speed of 217 mph; 211 mph for their front engined V12's like the 812 and 205 for the mid engine cars like the F8 or 296. And it makes more sense in Km/h, because those speeds translate to 350 Km/h, 340 Km/h and 330 Km/h. It's just neat to order them in that way even when pretty much every car in their line up can go faster than their stated top speeds, because there is no way an F8 Tributo is just 3 mph faster than a 458 Italia.

[@thecadeng22]

Production car still has not passed 300 MPH. The Chiron 300+, to my knowledge, wasn't produced enough to be considered a production model

[@BlissifiedHH]

Both that it wasnt a production car and they only did 1 run. For a production car run you need to do 2 runs and take the average speed of it

[@Sm00thieK]

The 300+ is just a trim of Chiron. The Chiron is definitely a production car.

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

SSC also tried a few more times after they lied about it and they got the record, but still not sure the Tuatara is a production car, nor the Hennessey F5 Edit: SSC broke the record in an owners car, it's verified but isn't over 300mph. They got an average of 295

[@fulminata4935]

@@Sm00thieK The 300+ is a trim of the supersport and is mechanically identical to the normal supersport. The actual 300mph car was a one-off prototype, which is mentioned in the top speed video.

[@Mroyalali]

@@BlissifiedHHand also you need to do it in both directions so that you know that you aren’t getting help by tail wind i think

[@Guythatlivesaquietlife]

Top speed circlejerk was a thing of the 90s/2000s, the new hot thing is 0-60. 0 to 60 is way more easy to grasp in the current Internet era

[@Metal6Sex6Pot6]

acceleration is fun, top speed is not.

[@PyroVulpes]

I'd say it's less that it's "easy to grasp" and more that it's actually a useful metric. Anyone merging onto a highway can test out their 0-60 time and make actual good use of quick cars. In normal day-to-day driving I've never needed to go more than 160 km/h, and that's only on a very risky multiple car passing run. Do I care what my car's top speed is? No, not at all. It's tire limited anyway. But, being able to get up to highway speed in under 5 seconds is something I find actually useful and fun.

[@Guythatlivesaquietlife]

@@PyroVulpes valid point

[@aimxdy8680]

@@PyroVulpes0-60s is useless on the street. Most people who race on the street do 60 rolls. Thats why 60-130 times have gotten really popular in people who race their cars on street.

[@frafraplanner9277]

@@aimxdy8680 And merging onto the highway is more like 30-80 mph than 0-60 anyways

[@someoneyoudontknow4920]

I prefer acceleration and cornering over topspeed anyway, just the feeling of being pushed back into your seat is amazing, something you won't really feel when you continue to go faster and faster after a certain point. To me it's more fun to just accelerate quick and be able to take corners with a lot of speed so you can really feel the G-forces

[@MaddJakd]

Good thing we arent all you

[@smallbutdeadly931]

acceleration and handling > top speed

[@bruhmomentonumber4308]

@@MaddJakdokay but when are you gonna hit top speed without putting people in danger?

[@princekatana8792]

@@bruhmomentonumber4308 I doubt people run top speed for safety reasons 🤣

[@MaddJakd]

@bruhmomentonumber4308 If that's all you care about, then stay home. People aren't everywhere, and not all of us are glued to public roards. Loard knows LOADS of folk hit top speeds over lockdown when everyone was apperantly held in their houses at gun point.... Besides, I was never under the impression that posted speeds were 1000% safe. Guaranteed you can kill a man going 25 if they hit just right 😉 But safe..... Probably one of those petitioning the closure of all the raceways, talkin' about "safe."

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

Also, transmissions. There's only like 4 of them that the majority of companies supply. Look at the long list of cars nowadays with ZF's 8 speed automatic. That's just a single unit that doesn't need to be changed to work fine

[@BladedAngel]

Yeah you're def not wrong. A lot of Japanese cars use Aisin gearboxes and Americans use Tremec and as you said Euro tends to use ZF. So even if Cars are "Advancing" if the transmission companies are hitting a bottleneck, the cars that use them do too. To be fair, I think all transmission companies are still doing great, they also probably just prioritized "MPG" since they also have to please lawmakers. Since if they can't pass those restrictions, then automakers won't buy from them and they can't make sales either.

[@Chris-cy3uq]

The modern M5 and M8 can't go that fast even when modified because the 8th gear on the ZF 8HP is too damn long

[@NikoKyunKyun]

car weight actually matters on alot of stats, from braking, acceleration, cornering speed, and even top speed

[@BladedAngel]

Weight does affect Top Speed on Bikes, but on Cars, usually their top speed has other concerns. Hagerty Has a video explaining why Weight isn't super detrimental for Top Speed, hence Bugatti weighing like a brick. But yes, weight does affect everything else tho!

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

Weight doesn't effect top speed

[@NikoKyunKyun]

@@BladedAngel b...but, porsche 917K

[@SelzTheShovel]

@@BladedAngel weight also has a very big impact on handling in general, the lighter the better ! for example the mazda miata/mx5 handles incredibly well because it wheights a little bit more than a ton which is pretty light in the car world.

[@BladedAngel]

@@SelzTheShovel you say this like I didn't already own a Miata in the past. Instructions unclear, still too heavy. Bought a Supercub instead.

[@D8OfficialMusic]

Something to point out: it isn’t JUST tire ratings that have to be speed limited. It’s also the fact that a lot of cars have 2-piece driveshafts which will fall apart past 155mph.

[@bradwoods371]

2piece drive shafts are crap

[@furiousgeorge7727]

I never understood the appeal of having a slightly higher top speed. The chances you would get to actually use it is pretty small compared to something like acceleration or handling.

[@BladedAngel]

This^ I'll take 150-200mph for the sake of gearing to get good RPM at 80mph on highway (i get like 30mpg on my Z06) but otherwise I don't need a 220, 250, or 300mph+ car nor do I think the future of Sports Cars needs to go that way.

[@luisborraa]

the world of the highest speed possibile is truly strange to understand. however it is undeniable that for some maximum speed is a very strong desire. perhaps in some cases it may have to do with the human mentality of always wanting more and more

[@bren.nan_]

although it sucks when you're racing someone and your car has a limiter slightly less than another car, even though you've won off the line.

[@crashniels]

​@@BladedAngelthe only reason to get top speed cars is the Autobahn but even then it's rare that it's so empty you can drive that fast.

[@aimxdy8680]

@@crashnielsI hit 130+ pretty easily on the highway, most people drive stock honda accords and f150s so they dont have a chance to hit high speeds even if they tried since they’re governed at like 110.

[@mich_bellcoin7500]

Its rly nice that u mentioned plane analogy like concorde. But even in modern fighter jets which are more comparable for supercars(bcs top speed and performance are their main priority) even modern fighters have lower top speeds than their older predecessors F-16- 2175km/hr F-35- 1930km/hr , because aircraft manufacturers realized that fuel efficiency,max range, maneuverebility and steathyness is more important than having a fighter that goes super fast

[@Tornado2409]

I brought this up in another comment's replies and got countered by someone who thinks they know what they're talking about because I forgot to mention the points mentioned here.

[@clonecommandermike332]

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[@ytstolemyname]

2175 km/h is actually top speed of a "clean" f-16 (without any external stores). While f-35 can reach its top speed with full internal storage being used. So f-35 is faster in a typical configuration

[@anttij2973]

It's the standard unit in USA. Just you happen to convert it.

[@TimelostInTheSauce]

Bro I finally got a notification for your videos, I had forgotten the channel existed and missed so many videos :(

[@BladedAngel]

Aye welcome back. Check out my Shorts too, been getting millions of views on them lately!

[@LilTachanka]

yea youtube really doesn't like to notify you of channels even when you have them on, especially with smaller channels

[@kelvinballer23]

All really good points! I think the only thing you forgot to mentioned was the technology of aero dynamics. Cars back then didn’t focus on downforce as much as they do now. Aero creates drag which a big factor on lower top speeds but in return provides more grip, confidence, cornering speed, and safety for the driver. Newer cars like the civic type R and the Porsche GT3 RS have literally tons of aero bits. The GT3 RS I believe has even a slightly lower top speed than the standard GT3. Anyways, great video!!

[@valkeitos]

Well, you can have aero that costs very little drag. Most cars other than the Valkyrie don't make use of it to a huge extent

[@JoelHernandez-tz3vk]

I imagine on the cornering aspect. A side effect of having more drag is that you'd brake faster by using that drag.

[@notrickastley106]

The concorde didn't HAVE to fly supersonic, it was banned cause the flight law people (forgot the name of the organisation) didn't like it from the beginning, when it crashed it was the final straw. Also the only complaint that people had was noise, the noise could break windows, not only top speed

[@ARockyRock]

it was more involved than that from what I've heard flying at supersonic speeds requires really powerful engines so the fuel cost was insane, literally exponentially more than that of a regular jet such that the cost/distance was more than that of a normal passenger jet. add on top of that the high maintainence costs and then the bad press from mechanical failures and wrecks leading to decreased demand and increased ticket prices and it quickly becomes completely cost ineffective to run it

[@overland1204]

its the FAA, correct me if im wrong

[@notrickastley106]

@@ARockyRock nope, the supersonic flight was actually just slightly more expensive than normal flight, concorde tickets where that expensive cause it was marketed as the fastest airliner ever

[@jacksong6226]

The concord was actually pretty fuel efficient for the distance and the fact it was a jet, also the crash in question was caused by a piece of a Douglas D-10 that shredded the tire and caused the left feul tank to rupture and the engines failing. It also didn’t help that a few weeks before the FAA grounding was going to end 9/11 happened

[@boeing777pilot5]

As an aviation enthusiast born less than a year after Concorde was retired, I appreciate the comparisons that you made bladed. I've always been facinated by the Concorde and dissapointed I'll never see one fly, I 100% agree that it was impracticable to operate, and can see how your comparisons work with cars.

[@FlightX101]

I lived near JFK and miss the low Roaring flybys on departure. Everyone in town knew when one took off lol

[@Shooterboy170]

As a kid I was obsessed with top speed, couldn’t care less about the other stuff. Now I don’t care that much about it

[@cooperlessard1723]

Corners>

[@xenonzzwow]

A supersonic shockwave from a Concorde would not break windows whilst 40000 feet away from them 😂 The reason the Concorde was abandoned was fuel cost vs travel time - it wasn't worth the extra fuel.

[@Kxvito]

I swear I heard people complained about the sound of the Concorde even from thousands of feet away.

[@xenonzzwow]

@@Kxvitohearing the sound and a pressure wave from either sound / a sonic boom large enough to break a window is still a hell of a difference.

[@fynnjackson8416]

Concorde was actually more efficient at cruise than 747 of the time. It burned more fuel on the ground and during climb than any other airliner

[@nashooo5903]

FR tho this guy is an absolute clown talking out of his behind

[@Tornado2409]

If this was the case, you wouldn't see F/A-18s breaking the sound barrier next to the beach.

[@sambrown6426]

So today at work I got to do something that was both incredibly stressful and kinda fun at the same time. Basically, before today, I'd had exactly 1 lesson on how to drive a manual car, and that was just doing 20-30 m.p.h. around an empty parking lot. Today I had to take a manual Nissan Sentra to the DMV to get inspected, and then take it to a nearby ford dealership to pick up some car parts for the auto shop I work at. Both of these trips involved doing 55 m.p.h. on the highway, which is quite the leap. And yes, there were more than a few short burnouts, and even more stalls.

[@valkeitos]

Wait until you're doing 70 or higher. That feels amazing

[@Corvolet5]

Personally I went 187 mph once with a Ferrari on the Autobahn, and it was scary to say the least. I gotta admit, top speed is nice to have, but if you have the high speed acceleration you'll already sweep past plenty of cars anyway.

[@CaseAgainstFaith1]

Maybe a sonic boom from a Concord was worse than from a fighter jet, I don’t know. But, I’m a boomer and I grew up near an air force base and they used to do sonic booms in my area. They were loud and annoying, but they didn’t break any windows.

[@ItsDaJax]

Well unlike most fighter jets that use two engines, it had four. I think it had a set of Rolls-Royce, or Pratt&Whitneys, that some fighters use. Of course, as fast as it is, it's slower than a fighter, so I don't think it was worse, but comparable.

[@charmsly9506]

I mean fighter jets are small, these were HUGE commerical passenger jets which are like 2-3 times larger, so you can imagine the sonic boom gotta be much larger right?

[@Arbyfig]

So being a person in the aviation field, there is also more to the Concorde, another major limitation to it is that at some point it still has to join other planes in an airspace for approaches and landings, so it has to slow down when nearing the destination, its a smaller point but I think similarly to cars, at some point, the fastest you can go in a car on a road is only as fast as the next car.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

And to be fair, there's really no point in buying a faster car as you are not supposed to either accelerate, stop or corner faster than anyone else as you will be more likely cause dangerous situations on road. Therefore bottleneck is other cars on road, but also other drivers and their reactions or rather lack of thereof.

[@yomamacrib3297]

Concords we’re still useful for long distance flights, they actually cut flight down by as much as 3-4x on some flights. the biggest problem was the fact that a single seat cost over $10,000…

[@MJ-uk6lu]

But then again, flights with it were kinda premium, so while price was high, for some people they might have still made sense.

[@jtland4842]

I have to point out how much tire technology has carried the improvements we have seen in lap times. For example if you mod an old Ferarri F2004 with modern F1 tires, it can go similar lap times if not faster. The increase in weight and size of modern cars makes sports cars significantly slower unless you put crazy tires and aero on it which the later drastically lowers top speeds.

[@NeedForSpeed.2004]

Speaking of weight, modern high end muscle cars have gotten really heavy. All weighing more than 4k lbs. Hellcat? 4,400-4,600 challenger & charger respectively. Shelby GT500 is about 4,100lbs, The Camaro ZL1 is actually the lightest out of all of them at around 3,800lbs. But even still, that’s kinda heavy. For comparisons sake, a base model Mustang weighs around 3,500lbs. My 2010 Lincoln MKZ weighs 3,600lbs, and is not small. *My 4 door sedan weighs more than a 2 door muscle car with 497 more horsepower.*

[@nhooj8882]

@@NeedForSpeed.2004 Those muscle cars are really hampered by the fact they technically have a second row of seats as well. it's so funny to me that you've made a a 2 door and 4 door comparison like a Mustang for example isn't only 2 inches shorter length, a couple inches shorter height, and 3 inches WIDER. it's the same footprint as a sedan, that's partially the point of the "pony car" styling. But you've also got to consider higher performance engines need that space and are heavier. For as much as Dodges get called heavy boats have you seen how cramped a Hellcat's engine is even under that massive hood? Not to mention cars in general have just been getting heavier, mostly thanks to increased safety regulations. Sturdier chassis, increased crumple zones, more airbags. Even things like more electronics add up.

[@NeedForSpeed.2004]

@@nhooj8882 i mean yeah true. I get that the engines are a lot heavier and there’s a lot more shit. But at the same time it’s a lot lol. I guess what I’m trying to get at is that the high end trim levels are heavier than the base models even like mid grade trims. Idk

[@iiGingiey]

Fun fact, so you meantion the hyabousa and its declining top speed with every generation, so the reason for that is that the big 4 Japanese companies electronically limit their more powerful bikes top speed. So 186 is a top speed number you see for a lot of powerful bikes. Before you flash tune them. Edit, oh so he did mention it

[@ItsDaJax]

Gentleman's agreement, just like with their old touring cars.

[@joshbacon8241]

I heard that the reason this agreement was put in place was to prevent a top speed war between these manufacturers from happening, potentially escalating to the point of someone getting killed in an accident as top speeds for superbikes got higher.

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

I raise you another question: Does top speed even matter at all?

[@jaidenjerome2936]

Yes on track cars on the straight they matter but then again a track is all about mid to low speed not top speed so it depends

[@BladedAngel]

To Some extent yes because it can't be _too low_ otherwise gearing will become totally effed up and the car would actually become too unreliable and stressed at high RPMs all the time. So you have to still give even normal cars like 120-150mph.

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

@@jaidenjerome2936 there isn't a single track with a straight long enough to actually stretch out to those high speeds. Let's take the Nurnburgring, because that's the track every "car guy" jizzes their pants over. The back straight is really long, yet nobody tests their top speeds there, because it isn't long enough. On regular days, you have traffic, and on restricted track days, you still have event traffic, doing a top speed run can easily turn into an accident killing multiple people. Same thing applies even more to highways, even the Autobahn in Germany, if you want to do a top speed run, your best chances are on low traffic days at low traffic hours, and even then someone could be negligent, cut infront of you are both of you are dead. The only real possibility is on a dry lake bed, where you don't have enough grip to keep the car straight. I highly recommend Jason Cammisa's video on the V12 Vantage, he took it out for a top speed test, and he wasn't comfortable pushing it near it's top speed, since the thing was spinning tires in 7th gear at 130mph There's a reason there's only a handful of people companies take on to even try top speed tests, a regular customer has no reason and skill to push a car to it's limit

[@jimmcneal5292]

Obviously yes(ideally), woefully lawmakers make it much more difficult to drive decent speeds on the roads, despite a lot of those roads actually being suited for 200mph+

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

@@jimmcneal5292 yeah roads might be, but people aren't

[@Ryder72121]

Everyone else reducing top speed and focus on everything else Meanwhile koenigsegg making a 4 seater with a 2000 horsepower with v8 x electric motor called dark matter

[@zdengvox]

If you are talking about Gemera, it actually has TFG engine with only 3 cilinders. But yeah, Koenigsegg is totally crazy and I love them for that.

[@Amy-dq2lg]

@@zdengvox the production model of the gemera has a v8 option aswell as the base model 3 cyl

[@zdengvox]

@@Amy-dq2lg I didn't hear about the V8, since TFG was in the spotlight. Nice, now with a V8 it is even better family car.

[@boudewijnb]

@@zdengvox They announced the v8 version only a couple of weeks ago

[@yeetusweebus5067]

small correction on 2:47, The hayabusa didn't go from 194 to 186 to pass emissions. It went to 186 because that's what the biggest manutfacturer's agreed to limit their bikes to in 1999.

[@joshbacon8241]

I heard that this was to prevent a top speed war between these manufacturers from happening, potentially escalating to the point of someone getting killed in an accident as motorcycle top speeds got higher.

[@yrjm2997]

​@@joshbacon8241 You're right, that's exactly how it happened

[@TheTortuga58]

I think the main thing stopping tires from the insane top speeds that numbernerds want is not anything to do with grip, it's the actual structural integrity of the tire. An average diameter tire on a car going 250mph is, no exaggeration, experiencing THOUSANDS of Gs in the centrifugal direction. Tires, or anything really, spinning that fast, has to be extremely strong to not just be ripped apart.

[@MrFlame-qe2hv]

best way to start a morning

[@carnonPL]

morning? in my country it's 18:24

[@baptisteparent7574]

For the C8 Z vs C7 Z it also si simply explained by the fact that a smaller engine without force induction as way less torque, so even with the same gearing the C7 would have a higher to speed

[@Wbfuhn]

It might be a considerable factor that cars are getting quicker at the sacrifice of faster top speeds. The gearing is different in the axle and transmission compared to older transmissions. Getting up to speed seems to be the time shaving factor.

[@Fen1xozze]

"Id rather pin Deeznutz before i pin a miata" Deeznutz

[@BladedAngel]

deez nutz

[@manunitedworsethanadogfr7683]

deez nuts are salty

[@Aaaaa1ggg]

its because of brand reputation, before, brands did the best to get crazy reputation of those top speed. Now that demand is higher, CEOs getting paid more, brands save money and the cars get less, what you are comparing are stock, if you put even 100k , now theres gonna be a diference, depending how much money you. when you paid for a bugatti 3.6M USD$ you're waiting some beast. but when you buy a corvette, youre paying money an get something worth it. its just how you see it. -safety measures also matter. (and 70k for a V8 6.6l is worth it)

[@Saltience]

Top speed becomes less relevant as we struggle to find places where we can actually go top speed. Having a top speed above 60mph was impressive at one time, and the roads were long enough for that top speed to shave minutes to hours off a trip. Having a top speed of 300 on the other hand…

[@mrsoisauce9017]

10:17 the only reason why I know this plane is because videos popped up in my recommended (I watch engineering videos occasionally) about how tHe SnOoT wOuLd DrOoP

[@xylox2409]

He didn't have to make the Concorde dirty like that it was a beautiful peace of ingienery

[@BladedAngel]

@@xylox2409 How am I doing it dirty? i loved the Concorde...history did it dirty. So does literal physics. Go Ask God to release a new physics patch that stops sonic booms and the Concorde will come back.

[@xylox2409]

@@BladedAngel ik, i was joking because i hate that fact, but i have to admit it physics doesn't want to make a patch for it

[@splitsecondmagician]

You want an adrenaline rush? Go 120 on a dirt road.

[@NeedForSpeed.2004]

I’ve been 127 on an old backroad once, and I forgot there was a downward slope in the road. Almost got air and bottomed out

[@PerSon-xg3zr]

Or go that speed on a speedbike

[@61936]

Ok that’s like death for most people

[@xxyvng6831]

Try doing that at night in a F350 with 24 inch wheels and 3 inch spacers

[@cckiller0053]

Ride an ATV

[@nicholasjensen8016]

On the topic of the concorde and tires... aside form its cost to operate, the crash in 2000 that put the final nail in the coffin for the supersonic jetliner was caused by the tires not being able to handle the takeoff speed, making them to explode and dealing critical damage.

[@Atrocious_Ferocious57]

my homie always posts bangers like these

[@khumochimealoane8485]

Always happy when bladed drops💯❤

[@Hvvb-lf2nd]

One thing u didn't talk about in the tire section (when u were talking about hovering vehicles) is that the hovering vehicles were still touching the ground with the inflatable part, and that mean they weren't literally hovering over the ground,only the part with the chassis and the engine was over the ground,and even with that we can't really say it was hovering not only because the inflatable partwas put under the chassis meaning the chassis is *on* the inflatable part but also because the inflatable part is part of the hovercraft

[@Hvvb-lf2nd]

P.S:I already knew hovercraft existed

[@gahbah274]

It floats on a cushion of air, that's the whole point. It isn't very obvious from the photos, but it floats very slightly above the surface of the water, or land. The propellers would hardly be sufficient to move the craft otherwise. And in the photo of it on land, the hovercraft is turned off for unloading/loading.

[@Hvvb-lf2nd]

Wait,how does it float ,cuz u won't tell me that that bag of air(the inflatable part)is enough to make the hovercraft float over the surface

[@Aven_Gaming]

Car tuning and modding has become so popular that with a few mods like exhaust, a tune, intake, and tires, you can hit a lot higher top speeds. Living in an area that doesn’t have emissions testing does help with this though😂

[@TheNewbie78]

The fact gas cars go slower and electric cars are going faster is just confusingly stupid. But still, no matter how fast, how quick your car is, a true car enthusiast car is literally just a fun car to drive around, not some speed demon that can kill you once you hit some goofy ah bump in the road and slide into a tree and end up dying.

[@lunchtreyy]

2:44 the Hayabusa is limited to 186 because of the big 4 japanese manufacturers gentlemen agreement to not make any bikes go above 186. It might also have to do with emissions but it's mostly that agreement

[@CoolTitanium68]

In terms of the airline industry, the US forced the Concorde to fly subsonic over land. Also, it was very hard to be profitable with the Concorde. However, there is a new company that wants to bring supersonic air travel back to the airline industry.

[@smol_sinon]

I feel that its annoying as the emissions standards are getting more stricter, but I see the point as they are doing it. This doesn't help with any corporation, car brand, or what not, as they have spent more money to learn more advanced tech, and all of that goes down the drain as emissions standards are getting even more stricter.

[@Crosshair84]

It's arbitrary nonsense from bureaucrats who need to justify their budgets. Once we got to fuel injection and the 1990s, the problem of air pollution was, for practical purposes, solved. Bureaucracies do EVERYTHING they can to ensure a problem NEVER gets solved. In this case, they did it by tightening the "standards". No rhyme or reason, no real cost/benefit calculations done, they did it just because. Faking data outright if they have to, as with the DEF regulations. Meanwhile, the same people who support these rules whine and bitch about Americans all driving Pickups and SUVs. It's not that Americans have some inherent love affair with either, but because government regulations banned the cars they wanted to buy. Large cars and station wagons. Think of the large cars of the 1960s and early 70s, but modern. People want SPACE in their vehicles, but the fuel economy regulations banned those cars. So people moved to vans, pickups, and SUVs. Regulations meant to reduce fuel use actually INCREASED fuel use. Instead of a low riding land yacht that gets 30 mpg, people are driving an SUV that gets 20-25 MPG.

[@smol_sinon]

@@Crosshair84 that's fair, with stricter emission standards, people are changing and getting something that is better

[@MJ-uk6lu]

And to be fair, our emission standards are seriously behind the demands of climate and continue to lag more and more.

[@beanapprentice1687]

People need to give the Mclaren speedtail more slack. It may say 1035 hp on spec sheets, but once that little hybrid battery runs out of charge (which happens before the car reaches 400 km/h), the car is really just 730 hp-ish from its ICE. And even with only 730 hp, Mclaren has stated that the Speedtail can go faster than 403 km/h, it's just that it is rev limited to that speed. From 380 km/h to 400 km/h top speed with around 110 hp of increased power seems reasonable to me when comparing the Mclaren F1 to the speedtail. Remember, it takes exponentially more power to go faster, because air resistance is not linear.

[@Viperz375p]

Top AVERAGE speed is Eurocar meta in my country. Being able to drive near top speed 90% of time (220-260 km/h or more) is what is prefeable here.

[@colindonoghue6120]

for sure when you have the road for it and it is safeish and legal to do so it makes sense. but when the highest speed limit in USA is 130kph (80mph) its a little less useful to be able to go 150. I'd rather not go to jail for criminal speeding.

[@tescoshortage]

1. Speed limiters 2. Downforce, Downforce, Downforce 3. Gearing 4. Manufacturers underrating their top speeds 5. Tire Ratings (ties into reason 1)

[@Henchman_Holding_Wrench]

Honestly, I've never driven on a track big enough for me to go past 90mph. But I've always wondered how much trouble I'd get in if all the power in my daily was geared to acceleration instead.

[@overcastfriday81]

The tire rating system is holding top speed liabilities back. (Y) says the tire can can do something better than 186 mph. It doesn't say how much. So if your customer doesn't keep his tire pressure and condition on point, but you sold him a car that can only go 189 mph, that's a good thing since tire companies didn't want to say how far beyond 186 anyway.

[@TheAutism_Man]

as a plane nerd, I love the concorde. such an amazing engineering marvel, and just a flat out amazing concept that with the right technology, may make a resurgence in the coming years!

[@ameerdastagir3493]

I have a 2004 Audi bkd and stock it tops out at 230 kmph. Compared to modern cars its still bloody amazing

[@brucedavidson7422]

A lot of motorcycle speedometers will stop at 186 mph due to that gentleman’s agreement but the tachometer keeps climbing🤔

[@joshbacon8241]

I heard that this was to prevent a top speed war between these manufacturers from happening, potentially escalating to the point of someone getting killed in an accident as motorcycle top speeds got higher.

[@0047sssss]

It was the japanese makers that did that

[@Outscore_]

I mean the F-22 cruises at super sonic speeds (the only other was the sr-71 blackbird) The only thing holding it back is the stealth aspect of the jet and also the pilots. X-43A was able to reach mach 9.8 the only reason was because no pilot was inside. If anything is a problem it would be the pilots holding it back.

[@FutureGameLight]

well here in germany top speed is still a big factor for buyers and for flexing on a meet because you dont want to be the sports car that has to let pass a diesel vw golf on the autobahn at 155mph. so many car guys actaully try to buy cars which go at least 200mph, so some golf kiddo doesnt make you look like an idiot since driving 200mph on the autobahn and still be a hinderance to other people is still a thing here

[@jaidenknight1160]

I’m supposed to order my 24 Z06 tomorrow. I know that it’s top speed has gone down overtime but I adore that car. I’ve sat on that list for over a year and plan to bring it to Hennessy Performance as soon as they have a supercharger developed for it.

[@KRAMITDFROG]

The 155-mph limiter is due to a gentlemen's agreement between German manufacturers to which Porsche did not agree. It was not a tire thing because they had it when V-rated tires were the top spec and they are good for 149 mph.

[@joshbacon8241]

I heard the reason for this 155mph gentleman’s agreement was to prevent the German government either imposing speed limits on the Autobahn or passing a law where all cars sold there have to be limited to a certain top speed - similar to what they have in Japan where every car sold in the Japanese domestic market has to be limited by law to 180 km/h (112 mph).

[@KRAMITDFROG]

@@joshbacon8241 I have heard different explanations including yours. I agree that it was likely a concession to avoid imposition of speed limits, whether due to safety or pollution. That said, it doesn't stop cars from other countries or Porsches from doing it, so I really cannot buy in 100% either. In the end, it probably allows them to cut corners that they otherwise wouldn't have if speed were unlimited. Maybe that's why Porsche didn't play ball as they didn't want to cut corners. And, if not cutting corners, why cut performance? (This last part is me pulling things out of my a$$ to try to make some sense of it. 🥴)

[@GT-RTData9]

I’m at a point where I no longer care about a “performance” cars performance. Most importantly, they aren’t race cars, they’re road cars. 99% of them will either be driven in traffic or kept in a garage and driven twice a month before being sold after 6 months or a year for the next car.

[@antonsamuelsson1317]

That concord thing reminds me of what my dad said about living in Ängelholm as a kid when the air force trained during the night flying 30m or 90feet over ground. The squadron got the nickname ghost squadron their base is now the Koenigsegg factory

[@QuietHusband]

I'll be honest, I feel like something has changed with newer cars. Heres an example: The fastest C5 corvette was modified to have 900hp, but it has a top speed of 227 mph. While an s550 mustang on KZbin has over 1,000 hp but it has the same factory top speed Here is another example: The McLaren F1 has 627 hp and a top speed of 240 While there is a 1,500 hp huracan with the a top speed of 202 mph I feel cars from 2014 have changed and become worse for modifying. Yes some newer cars can make hp more easily, but they still have the same top speed from the factory. So in other words, something has changed with car engine's since 2014

[@jlight7346]

I figured you were a fan of the Ace Combat games just based on your profile image but after hearing the Fort Grays hangar in the background music from AC7 I knew. Nice to see a fellow player! It’s a shame it’s remained a relatively small community.

[@AlexanderPaterson-f1e]

My dad and aunt used to hear the Concorde fly over their house when it was in its test stage and I’ve seen a real one and the test one

[@Globalprospective]

Better air downforce with a lot better handling, that’s why!!

[@Ob1tuber]

I have a feeling that this is the same situation as the SR-71 Blackbird They say an arbitrary top speed (whether it be Mach 3.5 or 217) but the people that know or have driven/flown the thing will know that it’s much, MUCH faster Yes the EPA regulations exist, but I can see manufacturers saying that a car goes a certain top speed to the EPA but they also wink when they do that, and the EPA still haven’t gotten it yet, but when they do, top speeds will be lower than ever, eventually leading to cars being declared illegal and those of us that still enjoy driving will be seen as enemies of the state and we will have to tear down the government and make a new government in its place due to an amendment in the Constitution I took a left turn there, but I wanted to have some fun with it

[@someboi4535]

Uh little note here What you said about the sonic boom of the Concorde shattering glass is not everywhere over land but only when it is at a low altitude like on takeoff and landing

[@ryannm]

bro really watched every mustard video, i like it!

[@Hvvb-lf2nd]

11:50 that comment is the literal definition of this meme: This dude who commented:sonic booms aren't real,they can't hurt you. Sonic booms:

[@interferret901]

ive noticed that whilst cars are having stronger and stronger engines, like most models of modern impals (up until they cut their production) were coming with better and better engines, including the SS having a 300+hp, quieter engine, theyre also getting heavier and having more restrictions on things like the emissions and stuff. im alright with speed no longer being a big thing anymore, but it kinda sucks putting these super nice, big engines in these commute cars and then limiting them to such a degree that theyre not even worth investing into. been a thing since the 80s - see the ETA. high displacement, decent compression engine with a sub 6k redline and godawful compatibility. its for sure nice having better fuel efficiency for sure, what with gas prices but it feels like the modern car market is stagnating, theres nothing really fun worth investing in now, better to just get an older vehicle and put your time and money into that older vehicle to get something thats a pleasure to drive, fun to hoon in when you feel it, but also not a mess of restrictions, electrical components and overly expensive parts that last maybe a half of their 20yr prior stated lifetime. its sad, but the love im seeing as of recent for older vehicles excite me. ive been seeing the fiero, and the starion gain traction in the modern world for the first time since they were produced back in the 80s, and its great, but for nice, comfy little grocery getters like the malibu or the civic si or the silly Kia rio, theres no love because theres no point TO love. its both nice and endearing, but also sad to see.

[@sl5635]

The Ace Combat 7 music in the background is a really nice touch lol

[@viperford6840]

As somone who is in a automotive engineering school when we asked out instructor why don't they make top speed cars he said "you don't have enough road. And most people don't want to go that fast"

[@lukewesolowski5060]

True car enthusiasts don't care about fuel economy,the only thing they are limited by are budget. I hate how the government sticks their nose into the automotive industry,I wish they would just leave it alone. I'm a car enthusiast,and the fact they are pushing electric vehicles are extremely annoying. It's also hard to find shops/qualified mechanics to do the things you desire on different types of vehicles. It's a shame that administrations like the Biden, and Obama administration have restricted the automotive industry so much,I wish that all automotive manufacturers could make one vehicle in each different class without restrictions. I wish that the public could control things like that,but the government puts a stop to that🤬.

[@strawberrymilk9767]

I get this is off topic, But I think the hangar ost from Ace Combat 7 is playing in the background

[@fqeagles21]

A man of culture

[@BionicBurke]

The C8.R's success is more than enough for me. The way it forced so many redesigns after dominating is awesome. Also as you said, I'm sure a major limiting factor in the road cars is the transmissions that have the higher gears tuned purely for fuel economy. If you were to put in a transmission with a gear ratio set for pure speed, I'm sure the C8 would be the fastest corvette ever made.

[@berend109]

7:12 this depends though some manufactures go for the best tires and have special tires made for that car. This is mostly done to make the car behave a certain way.

[@klevz3207]

but i want see big number go fast

[@BladedAngel]

We all do...we all still do Rip Concorde, you will be missed.

[@sambrown6426]

Little-known fact about the Concorde, not only was it not the only SST, but it wasn't even the first to fly. The soviet Tupolev TU-144 "Concordski" actually flew before the Concorde, it had a higher top speed, carried more passengers, and could land on shorter, worse prepared runways. However, the Concorde could supercruise, meaning that while it did need to use fuel-hungry afterburners to reach supersonic speeds, once it got supersonic, the afterburners could be switched off, reducing noise and fuel consumption. This cannot be said for the TU-144, which needed continuous afterburning to maintain supersonic, which, when coupled with the engines being located much closer to the fuselage, meant that it was so loud in the cabin that you couldn't hear each other even if you were shouting, you literally had to pass around notes. It probably didn't help that one of them broke apart and crashed in front of thousands of spectators during the 1973 Paris Air Show.

[@nicholasjohnson3302]

1:13 did he say one tony or is that just me?

[@TruthTeller23914]

TBH, top speed has to do with aerodinamics and top end power and gearing. Also, the C8 is around there with the C7. The problem comes from the priorities, as the viper ACR has got a lot of drag at high speed because aero.

[@vulcan7138]

A factor that affects is better cornering speeds in some track cars wich requires more downforce making the cars have worse drag coefficient.

[@roblox_boosa]

maybe horsepower inflation

[@MsGhost06]

Nice video as always but specially the Ace Combat 7 background music haha that was awesome to quickly notice.

[@bengarrison5256]

I stopped at the v6 camaro and mustang part for this comment. 2018+ v6 models can easily go 150-155

[@bengarrison5256]

Forgot to mention. No tune. That speed is stock from factory. Gm did it good with the governor on that car

[@BatCaveOz]

The volume was higher than expected.

[@porsche928s4]

I love top speed ive hit it in most cars I've owned. Past 170 it gets kinda freaky on public roads though

[@autisticrebel1253]

the BRM type 15 could get wheel spin at 140mph and the 1.5 litre v16 was estimated to be capable of about 780bhp. Concorde was very impressive, the TU 144 was apparently marginally faster than the concorde but harder to handle.

[@odeo5691]

The fact that my Corolla can hit 147 is honestly great for me

[@heheeiibu]

You finally talked about this, I always thought about that

[@rattatooi]

Educational, interesting, and entertaining. Love your vids.

[@xoiylo4660]

Me and my dad went to Le Mans classic this year with a convoy of mates. We were in a C63S (only one we saw the whole week) and we convoyed with a Gartrac escort, sapphire cosworth, GT3 RS, 911 turbo, cayman and an M4 comp. We umm… maybe didn’t stick to the speed limit on the open roads and we were the fastest out of the group. We have a factory limiter that keeps us at 160 and we chased the GT3 and over took him whilst we were all flat out. I get why car manufacturers go for factory limiters but Jesus…. The cossy was keeping up with us!! And we had 110 more BHP and an extra turbo!

[@MCPunk55]

They added the chicanes in La Sarthe when the Sauber Mercedes C9 reached the 400Km/h line. They decided it was way too fast to be safe... or fair.

[@Glamrock993]

What music are you using in the background of this video?

[@BladedAngel]

Ace Combat 7 Fort Gray's Hangar

[@rapcreeperproductions3269]

If we shift over from speed to horsepower "less is more" is one of the reasons union Pacific doesn't use the Big Blow GTEL locomotives also it literally has a jet engine in it and it was like the Concord being loud but your windows were ok.

[@Blazeking8320]

The thing about the Concorde was if you lived in NYC, London, or Paris you could fly from JFK, Heathrow, or Charles de Gaul get to the other side of the world for a business meeting, have lunch, hop back on the plane all in one eight hour work day in the same time it would take a 747 to do one flight there

[@braedengibb4358]

The point about car sales depending on fuel efficiency and emissions is true, but not for performance cars. Lawmakers? Sure. But no one buys a super car for the fuel efficiency

[@jedispartancoolman]

Is that ace combat I hear? I always saw you pop and thought AC fan but this confirms it

[@revus5078]

A sh!t I forgot about speed ratings… Definitely didn’t just build a highway runner, and put LingLongs on it because I went over budget….. Sh!t.

[@bunsenn5064]

I feel like there’s also a focus on handling rather than top speed now. For example, the new GT3RS has the same 0-60 time as the GT3, and a lower top speed, solely because it has a bunch of extra downforce and cornering ability.

[@LWRC]

The amouint of HP needed to overcome air resistance increases with the cube of the speed! This is an exponential curve and is NOT linear and is why it is so hard and takes so much HP for very small incremental gains at the top end!!!

[@benjaminmatute9085]

Tbh though I don’t really see any sense behind the lawmakers and manufacturers plus consumers reasons. You don’t just buy a fairly expensive car to corner good and be fast for a few seconds cause then where did your money go to? That’s just my opinion.

[@brayanveras7093]

But how were people complaining about the sonic boom of the Concorde flying over house. Wouldn’t it make sense to reach that speed once you are high enough where the altitude is over 10,000 ft

[@ghoulbuster1]

The most important stat is handling, if the cars feels like a boat then it would not be fun to drive.

[@haste953]

The ones I can think of without watching the video are weight which is a big factor, aerodynamics which hold the car down for cornering and stability and gearing for acceleration which reduces top speed.