"Why are People Not Angry?" Martin Wolf on 2008 and The Crisis of Democratic Capitalism (part 2)

[@grayzytube]

I'm looking forward to what will hopefully be a third part of this. Wolf's closing remark as this part faded where he quotes Aristotle's belief that "you can't have a stable Democratic institution without a thriving independent middle class" I'm not surprised that he feels that way as he is part of that group. I would like to posit that until we have an entire electorate who are well informed, articulate and capable of critical thinking Democracy cannot thrive. Without Democracy in the workplace there is no democracy and that is unlikely to be achieved whilst major investors and financial interests main focus is R.O.I. and not human welfare.

[@aristocraticrebel]

How about democracy when it comes to immigration?

[@nath1284]

Agreed. Capitalism is finite and cannot continue. This is why we are witnessing such ludicrous last desperate attempts to drain every penny possible from the majority before the majority awaken to the power and control they are subservient to.

[@Greego-z1z]

half the population should not get the vote .it would cut out the swill that stormed the Capitol,,, the people who voted for brexit,,,the people who demonstrated with force in France against raising the retirement age ,and the terrible destruction in S Africa where whole shopping centers have been looted and destroyed ,,,,If those people want to vote,then they should take an exam an judged b y an agreed algorism

[@aristocraticrebel]

No one should vote.@@Greego-z1z

[@indricotherium4802]

In whose interests is it that both sides of politics in the UK be small c conservative? The super rich who are getting richer while everyone else gets worse off are the ones who don't want direction change. It should therefore be pretty clear who's pulling the strings at Westminster.

[@dennistate5953]

Who in hell said folk ain't angry?!

[@harrysoothsayer5086]

Live hand to mouth - they don't care!

[@AlignmentCoaching]

Degrowth is going to happen, whether it’s chosen or not. And likely the latter. No other solutions are able to keep our increasing global temps under 2.0 let alone 1.5C.

[@clarewillison9379]

Good to hear an educated thoughtful man advocating Jeremy Corbyn’s 2017 manifesto. Just a few years too late, now there is no vision and no policy, just a race to the gutter, authoritarianism and even the far right. Seriously dangerous times.

[@aristocraticrebel]

What "far-right"? Where's this "far-right" you people keep crying about? The Tories have imported a record amount of migrants. And by authoritarianism you mean the cancelling of people like Kathleen Stock and jailing people for "racist" tweets, right?

[@dsam3]

Lower the taxes lower the rights

[@joaodecarvalho7012]

Blockchain is all about solving the trust problem.

[@joaodecarvalho7012]

How about taxing the rich?

[@aristocraticrebel]

Try it. They'll just leave.

[@Greego-z1z]

60% of Americans are living from pay check to pay check

[@joaodecarvalho7012]

@@aristocraticrebel Yes. We will have to solve this problem.

[@aristocraticrebel]

There is no solution.@@joaodecarvalho7012

[@aristocraticrebel]

That's their own fault though.@@Greego-z1z

[@aristocraticrebel]

If you think a man is a man and a woman is a woman you're called an "anti-intellectual" these days. Utter madness.

[@azanulbizar12]

Well, for most of humanity's existence if you said gods did not exist, even when no one saw them or could prove it, you got killed. In the Old Regime, if you questioned kings, popes or emperors legitimacy to reign and their "divine right", you got send to prison, colonies or killed. In past and modern real totalitarian regimes, if you criticise the leader and the party, you get imprisoned or killed. And both Hitler and Stalin hated intellectuals. I think I'll stick with the woke extremisms and Twitter cries over those other examples anyday. You defend rejecting democracy, liberal checks and balances to power and pluralism in the name of freedom, which is ridiculous and contradictory. Reality was, is, and will always be plural. There is no "liberal totalitarianism", as there is no "freedom prison": there is a recognition of pluralism in societies, with all their contradictions and their "work in progress", or there is not. There is a recognition of the human rights and dignity inner to any human being or there is support to ethnic darwinism. There is support of a limited government that answers to the people or not. And if there is no recognition of pluralism, human rights and limits to power, then it means the domination of one or a few over all: dictatorship or totalitarianism, the real ones, not the fake illusions you portray to support supremacism. Enough with the demagogues.

[@nevadataylor]

You dont like when a man 'believes' he is a woman, nor do you like when a woman 'believes' she is a man, yet you dont care about all the beliefs that make you up, do you? Most on the right are very nationalistic for example, and therefore believe in country borders. Those lines you draw in the dirt for your fake countries, are just as belief-based as a man who thinks himself a woman or vs versa. Its ok for you to maintain belief in bullshit, why cant others? Seems you only cry anti-intellectual when it goes against other peoples' beliefs, and not your own. Thats called being a hypocrite.

[@nath1284]

Citizens assemblies are the way forward

[@aristocraticrebel]

You may not like what they think about immigration, diversity, and trans "rights".

[@nath1284]

​@@aristocraticrebelYou mean what WE think. Citizens assemblies are representative of the people and unless there are specific issues to tackle that involve the topics you name then these discussions wouldn't be a factor. We really need to move away from all forms of divisiveness towards a more compassionate cooperative society. We are all humans.

[@aristocraticrebel]

Majorities all over Europe want less immigration, so good luck with your "progressive" agenda. And humans are divisive by nature.@@nath1284

[@nevadataylor]

@@nath1284 Pro-capitalists are still hooked on their religion of individualism. They never think 'we', its always 'me' to a capitalist. This is why climate change exists in the first place.