Why are we leaving Germany after PR | Reasons people are leaving Germany

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

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[@marasi36]

I llived in Germany quite a few year's, I wish I never wasted my time there, the German people are a evil bunch, they will come on to you as if they're your friends but are evil to the core & full of schadenfreude, if they can't control you they try to mess you up, I just packed my bag's & came back home to England!

[@parmykumar8592]

Lived in Berlin-Germany quite a few years, they come on to you as if they're your friend's but they're a evil schadenfreude bunch & if they can't control you they try messing you up, I just packed my bags & moved back to England!!!

[@nancyparker9137]

Language matters but I can tell you that it is more than that. Simply put they do not want foreigners to succeed (covert racism and jealousy). I was born and speak German like a native, yet because I am not "white", I have been mistreated in the school system and in my workplace. Many of my friends and acquaintances have experienced the same thing.That's the reality in Germany unfortunately.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

That’s unfortunate! Hope it gets better.

[@maikhentricht3320]

I am a german native and was still kept down in school as well as workplaces. The reason is not racism, but confirmity. Germal culture has got very narrow expectations for the way you interact in the world and an abundance of social norms to follow. Being unable or unwilling because you don’t fit it leads to ostracism. Individuality is simply frowned upon

[@truthseeker803]

That happens in many other European countries like Sweden too.

[@rockysage7760]

😢 sad. But you should have thought of that before leaving India.

[@abdullahabdiweli1167]

same can be said about belgium and most of European countries no matter how hard u try the system will let u down

[@caraira1909]

As someone who came to Germany from a Latin American country 25 years ago all I can say is that if you are planning to migrate to other country you should do your homework: 1. Try to learn about the culture and mindset of the locals before you move: honestly, if you are moving to another country you should be willing to adapt to the rules and way of thinking of that country. It isn't about losing your culture: it is about being aware that some of your habits and conceptions doesn't agree with the local mindset and even the laws. If you tova country with the expectation that the country should adapt to you then you should stay in your own country. Honestly, I don't think that people india would be happy and amused if some German goes there trying to impose his own mindset. Multiculturalism works only when everybody follow the same rules. 2. Language is everything. I am always amazed how many people come to live in Germany andc expect from Germans to speak their languages. Yeah, Germans usually can speak English, but you know what? This is Germany, not the States, not GB or any other country where English is an official language. 3. You can succeed aa a foreigner in Germany: when I came not only I had to learn the language , I had to learn a profession and here I am 25 years later, with a good job, enjoying my life here. Germany isn't a perfect country, there isn't a perfect country anywhere, but is is a damm good, beautiful place to live if you are willing to adapt and integrate

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

All good points. All about personal preference and making it work by trying to acclimatise. Every country has its own pros and cons

[@wora1111]

Thanks for saying that. I am a bit older than most here, but I just noticed I never visited a country for more than 4 weeks in total without learning the local language to some extent. Even as a tourist you are being treated like a treasured friend, when addressing people in their own language, no matter how bad you speak it

[@AshishOnline]

You would spend your lifetime and you will barely scratch the surface in terms of culture in India. Not to mention how many languages you will learn to "fit" in India. And mind you there will be a time in future where people will move to India for work. I can guarantee yoo no where in India will anyone expect you to speak the local language like the rude Germans.

[@travellogin]

True. Even if you learn the language to some extent to C1 level you still have a disadvantage compared to native speaker in terms of career progression. Agree, especially people in IT are moving either after their PR or citizenship.

[@oceanwave4502]

I can relate with my personal experience: when consider promotion, between your german counterpart and you, you only have the chance if you work EXTRAORDINARILY well. Otherwise, no hope. If you're just a little better than your german counterpart, still no hope. The leadership would choose the german person.

[@priv1leged]

germany is called racist nation for a reason by almost every tourist except german speaking tourists from swiss or austria

[@wora1111]

You forgot to mention the hundreds of thousands of refugees that found a new home in Germany or Switzerland. And the millions that migrated to these countries in the last decades.

[@priv1leged]

@@wora1111 and you seem to forget that every war is orchestrated by banks, the same banks which sit in germany, the UK and the US

[@rh334]

Same. Came to do master's in Data Science. The companies only prefer GERMAN native speakers or Europeans for English jobs. And they don't want to hire freshers immigrants. Finally went back to INDIA with no job and wasted 30 Lacs+ 3 years.

[@parthcontractor4648]

I am planning to go germany for masters but now I will think twice before making any decision.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

That must have been tough. All the best for your future!

[@wora1111]

When hiring people I always did the interview in German. If that did not work out, I knew these people would not be able to communicate with my customers, understand my customers paper and were not willing or able to invest time into what is needed for the job. Surprisingly, most of the immigrants passed that test.

[@rh334]

@@wora1111 German companies only want some middle-aged 35-year-old Engineers who have 10+ years of experience, speak fluent C1 German and can work at a much lesser salary. If someone is nearing their 40s he would be married, have kids, wife not working, why would he go through hell, leave his well-paying job, take a risk and start from scratch. The salary after tax is 3000 € and a 2-bed appartment cost easily 2500 €. Those who are freshers and studying in GERMANY they will never get a chance for an interview. Those who actually want to stay eventually leave as they get no job, no internship, no part-time, will be in debt and will move out as soon as they complete their masters. The system is not good. It's just stupid to go to GERMANY when the economy is in recession, weather is bad, everything is expensive. Only idiots with money who want to show off fancy life on insta are going to GERMANY

[@wora1111]

@@rh334 The last time I was hired away from a job, I was 57 years old. And yes, I was hired for my experience.

[@MrRocrma]

About racism : First time travelled from Zürich to Konstanz in Germany! Of all the people who alighted the SBB train, me and my wife were the only people who were stopped and were asked for passport. 5 mins later we were besides lake and a police troop of 4-5 people came and asked for passport and Visa. This is where there were 100s of other white people. So yeah that’s not racism just love for Indian looking people.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Haha. Yes, we’ve witnessed such love ❤️

[@kalinbhaaiya1348]

It's valid for any country. There will be always someone who will treat u like outsiders. Even we Indians do the same. U can't blame them for looking into ur passport or visa, u can't deny the fact that u don't look like whites. What u r expressing wasn't racial at all.

[@Y2K-2000-y]

What’s wrong with that a lot of brown people are illegals so nothing wrong with doing that they are protecting their borders

[@meu22422]

Foreigner ka ki passport check hoga na, native tou native hai

[@Pratyush_M]

Do you guys have to carry your passport with you all the time, when in Germany? Thats quite strange

[@riturajborah382]

The funny thing is some people want to argue that it is wrong to dislike what you disliked about Germany. When they don't like something at least let them not like it. It's their life and their choice.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Haha exactly. Okay to have personal choices, it’s free will. And no country is good or bad, as we said in the video.

[@quantumchad]

@@HarshitaVivekTalks- At least you left so disliking it is no problem. Hundreds of thousands of your people live in Germany, hate it, hate the culture, hate the locals, yet stay there - which is a large part of why Germany now sucks (flooded with people from incompatible and hostile cultures)

[@oceanwave4502]

It's also the investors' choice for not choosing Germany to do business. 😏

[@asadjaved309]

I moved to Germany from China and it sucks. Here for almost 4 months but can't bear it, Even finding an apartment is like going to space. I am thinking to leave Germany.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Hope it gets better for you! all the best with the apartment search. First few months are always tough in any new country!

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

So we're responsible to ensure yiur accomodation.

[@vikas274]

@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage no, you are not responsible. But your government thinks they are responsible for asylum immigrants to give free money. We tax payers have to bear the burnt. Need to change gov

[@mehmetdagtekin2273]

Did you move from germany?

[@oceanwave4502]

Not sure why you left China? China is the only country that can be on par with the US in competition. Meaning: the opportunity is high there.

[@rogers906]

If you don't speak the local language it is absolutely miserable living in a non English speaking country.

[@vikas274]

I learnt language within a year.. But still i was always looked down upon. Germany is not welcoming. I left germany after a year... And looking back...that was best decision 👍

[@taniyanegi5437]

@@vikas274 where are u living now

[@ShubhamSaxena-te7nb]

@@vikas274 Hey Vikas, Could you please elaborate a little more on your experience? Or is it fine that I contact you on LinkedIn? Currently I am working in Germany and would love to know your experience

[@anshumansingh1824]

The letters which you have to write to bureaucracy is in German or English ? If it is German then how you manage writing so much in that language

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

One needs to learn German to live in Germany for long term :)

[@sanjubell]

Totally agree and appreciate your informative video.Even I am struggling with 15+ years of IT experience.I am holding Blue card and very very difficult to overcome language barriers to shift the job. IT professionals should think thrice before moving to Germany....

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thank you for sharing your story!

[@vikas274]

I have been to many countries... Germany is coldest of all. I learnt language very fast, even before coming. But I never felt welcoming. Left Germany after a year... That was best decision... We are happier now ❤

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks for sharing your story!

[@mehmetdagtekin2273]

Where did you move?

[@oceanwave4502]

I'm worried about the radicalization in Germany when economy goes further downhill. The immigrants will be "easy target" for blame-game.

[@FunNFury]

Good that you left, I resonate with you. Germany is not a country to live long term.

[@tysonkicks8596]

Skip to 7:40

[@fakhrulstings541]

Thanks

[@BFdEutschLaNd]

thank you and i understand their problem. i am fast 6yrs here and i can understand better unlike in the past years but my problem now is to speak haha, takes time really, leider but thank goodness i am a german citizen just this year but i have more pressure is to speak haha, it is really a requirement here

[@Isabell-ey8pw]

My advice to you would be, to better your English pronounciation if you wish to live as expaths. Wish you all the best!

[@enrootedideas2512]

Thanks for sharing guys, all the best. Where are you guys headed next?

[@unnikrishnanadoor]

When you travel on a train or bus, do they (germans) sit next to you or try to avoid sitting next to you?

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

We didn’t see any such racism in Germany. In general, most ppl very nice and friendly.

[@moniho6907]

For me they avoid sitting next to me but they will do the same to their fellow Germans as well

[@BFdEutschLaNd]

@@HarshitaVivekTalks likewise, the people here are not gemeine but ok, i understand that some are distant

[@saikumarparab4015]

That Shilpa from other KZbin channel are now making videos which are mostly click baits ..atleast u guys are original 👍

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Yeah we noticed that as well. To each his own. Our fundamental is to be transparent and honest, we will keep on creating original and real videos as per our experiences and research. Thank for the support!

[@anukritisingh4931]

Where next guys ?

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Soon

[@Farhan_in_Delhi]

Hello i have a very important question. If let's say i do a master's from Germany in a course which is in English language, can i get a job in other European union countries especially Netherlands based on that German degree?

[@Quantum_in_Java]

Yes , Not just Netherlands ,but all over the world

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Yeah, you can get a job anywhere if you have the right skill sets.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

You can see our MBA India vs Germany videos, part 1 and 2, we talk about Jobs after MBA in Germany and how German degrees are recognized across EU

[@yuman2363]

People are lovely and nice????? Where in part of germany is that???? I would loved to live there

[@seshadrir2057]

lol. Germans hardly interact with us. How to even know whether they're lovely and nice 😂.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

We met some nice people through work and extracurriculars like cricket club etc. it’s all about learning their language and being open! There are all kinds of people everywhere:)

[@clairechloe5294]

​​@@seshadrir2057 - Well said 👍💯. I am an Asian living in Germany and fluent in German. Germans are cold, unfriendly and selfish. That is a part of the cultural traits of Germany and also Scandinavian countries. But in Germany you also see a lot of jealousy. Many Germans are very jealous of another person's success (including of their fellow Germans). I am leaving Germany in a few months at last.

[@BFdEutschLaNd]

bavaria area, they are nice, friendly and conservative

[@BFdEutschLaNd]

@@clairechloe5294 better not say that, if you live in one area, why would you say all? i meet germans (pure), they are friendly, generous, warm but very serious, they dont like to joke around which i find it weird at first but have adjusted already. Maybe you met not real germans? i am from philippines and now german citizen but you cannot say, i am cold, unfriendly and selfish? just my opinion.

[@khalilkhan-tl8wq]

i was in hongkong almost 9years them i leave because of language but now i am in dubaj i feel same like my country

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

We can definitely understand. Hope you’re enjoying your life in Dubai!

[@khalilkhan-tl8wq]

@@HarshitaVivekTalks yes i am.thanks for reaply BTW.

[@MAHESHBHOSLE-h9j]

For Masters in CS/IT.......which country is best........USA/Germany?

[@thatguy4010]

USA without any doubt

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

If you have the financial backing or can get full scholarship then USA, otherwise Germany

[@mohitdasgupta7698]

Most importantly, after every other things fulfilled you will always remain a foreigner there.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

There is only one place you can call home :) you’re right!

[@saniya7649]

After how many years can we apply for PR??? What is the process?

[@MrAki28820]

3yr

[@captainchaoscow]

Hi there, do you have also a channel in German, it would be easier for me to follow you?

[@sohammondal406]

Iim Ahmedabad se hoke Germany kiu gya tum to india ka ashneer Grover ban skte the

[@Saurabhdewana]

It's your failure to adjust to a new challenges... The incident she mentioned about passport happens in India also... You are just not open to new challenges and opportunities and acceptance to change

[@damodaran2629]

Why is it a failure. They are not German so it is up to them to move to the place where they feel comfortable. I had done my Masters in printing technology from Germany in 1990. I hated the place, so l shifted to Hyderabad ,lndia and today l have my own business which employs around 100 people. It is not necessary that you have to stay at a place you find difficulties .

[@Saurabhdewana]

@@damodaran2629 please read in context.. I spoke about Passport check issue... Also no one is forcing you to stay here.. you came with certain expectations.. also the new place has certain expectations from you.. If you hate here then you are happy where you wanted to be.. Wish you good luck with your venture

[@jayantajithazarika2619]

Dear Brother , Thank you very much for your nice and fàntastic video . With lots of lots of love and regards 22/10/2022

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@samirbhagat5334]

Hi guys .. you are really doing very good videos. I need one information, is there any cricket team in Frankfurt?

[@iqbalblore1047]

Yes

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Yes there must be. There was one in Mannheim as well, so for sure there must be in Frankfurt!

[@kavitasingh1362]

Enjoy the new journey 👍😊and God bless you

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot 😊

[@kalinbhaaiya1348]

Points u told regarding moving away from Germany were kinda vague to me. Anyway wishing u all the best for your future endeavours

[@bhaveshsevak5772]

After leaving Germany how long can you Hold you PR valid? Any idea? What did u do? Do you know anybody who has kept valid for 6 months after deregistering in Germany.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Think it’s 6months maybe, not sure abt yhe period but it doesn’t remain valid for long after you leave as you don’t have a registered address there anymore

[@eurofoot1519]

Best video. Absolute truth spoken.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot!

[@hammadulaziz1064]

thank you.

[@LinusWelt]

We are not worried at all because you hardly showed any interest to learn the language and integration. In your country, the people of several states mistreat the people hailing from other states or North vs South issues and so on. Learning German is not a a choice, it's very much essential and mandatory in some ways. Your lack of language skills might trigger the authorities very easily. It's natural in most countries. As a German who also has close interests with Indien, I'd only hope that you both would not leave your home country too. If you noticed how our German families think, we generally don't send our children abroad for higher education etc because of our sound Ausbildung system once Abitur is done with. Mannheim is a nice place to live, hope you guys visited the globally reputed IDS. Viele Grüße Dr. L

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Firstly, thanks for sharing your thoughts in a detailed comment. Not sure you were able to catch the full video and the points we talked about because it’s a mix of Hindi and English. If you would have watched, you’d seen us telling what we like abt Germany and what our challenges were. We also mention the groups in Indian communities. No country is perfect, every country has its pros and cons. We are only sharing our experiences and having learnt German (both of us actually know B1/ A2German), we still feel for an expat it takes effort to integrate socially and if one is determined to do that, Germany is a great country. So is India which we are proud citizens of and always will be. If you ever do live for an extended period of time in a country outside Germany, you’d better understand the pros as well as the challenges of living in a new country. Decision to study abroad is a very personal matter and everyone has a right to decide where they want to study/work/live. We want to experience many new cultures and countries because its extremely rewarding and helps one grow. Let’s appreciate every country for its uniqueness and let’s respect each other’s decisions. Peace out ✌️

[@mandyt7010]

Well i think its very absurd to think that you can feel accepted to any place or country if you dnt speak the local language…forget germany or any country for that matter…even in india if u migrate from a northen hindi speaking state to a south indian state you will easily feel alienated…its extremely normal…its nthng to do with a specific country….and end of the day pls bear in mind you always will be a outsider in any other country other than yr own country….and it has to be be that way… its common sense

[@datasqlai]

Here comes the common German click bait. The couple were learning German and making a progress. They were on blue card / PR holder and making social contributions and contributing to the whole system. Will this don't be enough ? It is there choice to move or stay. Germany wants the high skilled professionals and want them to pay social security contributions so as to indirectly give pension to the elderly people. The lack of youth coming into workforce is way lesser than no of retires every year. And your this of rigid attitude towards migration is making things difficult. The rule is simple for every country who are looking for skilled workers. There is whole shortage of workers in western world. Embrace multi culturalism, appreciate high skilled people and their knowledge and focus less on language and communication. Language is just a way to communicate and express. Knowledge is everything. Make immigration laws friendly for expats OR give birth to more children :)

[@mandyt7010]

@@datasqlai it actually works both ways…immigrants get good opportunities which are missing in their home countries and the host country gets well trained labour…however the common people on the street only look at the first point…the second point does not directly impact them…and not all immigrants are the same…some are grateful whereas others are not….its really a difficult question…and forget a country….people in mumbai have problem when there are immigrants from Bihar and UP…political parties make a huge deal out of it…its all complicated to be frank

[@datasqlai]

@@mandyt7010 my comment was not for you. It was for Linus. Regarding your comments, I completely agree that both parties are benefitted and vocal about equality. But when the common uneducated people just do condescending and shows that there are superior to them , then I have a problem. It is simple, you have something missing and I am here to bridge that gap. So just don't condescend and make the battle field even playing .

[@sanugoud]

Wish you guys a very good Start to the new part of your life.....

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot Santosh Bhai :)

[@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage]

There are many places to go in this world. You will always take your mindset and your personality with you.

[@mav3r1ckk]

Thank you for leaving Germany

[@RaghvendraSingh-ew6ci]

Good wishes for your next journey Mohit....

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot 😄

[@Friend98980]

Dont try to mix with germon make your friend culture of same people let germon do talk to you if he likes otherwise leave them

[@harshitdamani101]

All the best to you both :)

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot :)

[@madhulata8938]

Nice👍👍

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot :)

[@nicolec2483]

You can support that couple from germany whose child is illegally abducted by German. As Indian you can gather for our fellow Indian.

[@meetathakkar7647]

Hii,how easy is it to get Canadian pr after studying masters in germany!?

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Don’t see a big advantage! Why not masters in Canada?

[@Quantum_in_Java]

@@HarshitaVivekTalks that's quite costly 35 to 40 lacks .

[@Sunkcostfallecy]

​@@Quantum_in_Java Yupp! Tuition fee and special fees are very expensive in Us/Canada/UK.

[@AsifSaifuddinAuvipy]

German PR is actually not forever

[@shopnoahmed3647]

Garmany move to Canada it's possible??

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Yes, of course

[@janachaitanya7132]

UK, London to meet RishiSunak

[@MadanSingh-qz9lb]

Good

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot :)

[@OnlyBaluch]

waching from mannheim

[@youtuberkid2384]

Yar aise soft racism toh har country mei hojata hai. Dil pe na lagao

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

All is well!

[@anukritisingh4931]

This was lovely....

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thank you very much 😊

[@SurenderSingh-fq4qf]

Better country to lived is Luxemburg

[@glorieetim9312]

That’s very, as a foreigner you have no opportunity to grow, in your profession. Never!

[@PKENTERTAINMENT888]

So sad

[@annao1827]

Canada prob better

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Every country has its pros and cons

[@techigyaani2923]

Sab badoya hi hai ji countyira apnaeyaap mai ab chaahey swarg honya nark ye to harik ki apni soche par depends karyta haiji

[@lovygoel]

Slow video 🙄

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

You can increase the watch speed per your liking :)

[@josefartzdorf5019]

Well, when i'm reading all these terrible news about Germany, i completely don't understand why since 2015 alone, millons of immigrants asked for (political) asylum in this country. By far the most of them are PoC or Black People! Because they do like Germanys racism so much? Or why? I'm willing to admit, that everyone who has open eyes is able to see that there is racism existing. But now i ask you, can anybody tell me the country where it is not? Perhaps in France, Britain, or the US? Really? Have a look on the evening news only! Racism ist a worldwide problem, regrettably. And it has to oppose everywhere. Of course in Germany too! But it strikes me that most posters here are intending to condemn Germany as the only "bad guy" all over the earth. That is spiteful, and really unfair too!

[@riturajborah382]

It's not that people are getting money for criticizing Germany. They are just expressing what they have experienced. I was yelled at by a supermarket employee in Aachen when I just open my mouth to ask.. Excuse me please... Shouts: No speaking English in Germany ja? Probably I had bad luck, but apparently a lot of others as well. But you are right, racism is everywhere. Just that people feel it less or more depending on the place.

[@designwithsaif]

Kya yar chutiya bana diya ma video is liye Dekh rha tha ye konsi country Jaye ge batya he nhi mujhe Lagta ha ye Canada Jaye ge

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

We have revealed which country we moved to here, kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6qyh4lor8yCjZY

[@saksham4644]

my guess - Australia/New Zealand ............................(Maybe)

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks for watching. We are going to reveal it very soon.

[@digitalsumanraj9891]

Canada🇨🇦 move

[@direct.skc.2]

London thumakda? 😂

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

haha :) pretty much.

[@amrinderbahl]

Lovely people in Germany ! 🤣 Kahan mile ??

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Everywhere! Our colleagues were quite nice

[@ncsone2103]

Are du Bruder und Schwester

[@anukritisingh4931]

My guess - USA

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Keep guessing ... :P we are going to reveal it soon, stay connected :)

[@hanipasha8859]

My freezer is warmer than Germans ( cold hearted people)

[@clairechloe5294]

Well said 👍💯.

[@hanipasha8859]

@@clairechloe5294 best thing to do in Germany is to leave Germany ( shithole)

[@plimajr]

Not my experience at all after 12 years living here

[@eurofoot1519]

Best video. Absolute truth spoken.

[@HarshitaVivekTalks]

Thanks a lot for the kind words!