Why Art Feels So Hard (And How to Keep Going Anyway)

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Can I Learn To Draw ?

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@ironcockroach
@ironcockroach 2 ай бұрын
I spent so much time on art, and I think, I'm not good yet. I'm stuck with no job, not ready to pursue an art position (also, because I'm not producing final pieces for the portfolio, because I think I should still practice). It feels impossible to take another profession where I have less experience, thinking -- how could I be good at that, when I'm not even good enough at something I dedicated my life to. Now all my friends have finished schools, and got jobs. I feel excluded, and everything around me is telling me: the time for practice is over. I'm writing this because I think it's related to the video's topic -- time spent on art, and also I just wanted to let it go from my mind.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
I hear your pain. I will admit that getting a job in art is very different than getting better at art. We should keep those things separate. As many entry level jobs are really based more on whether you have the right connections and people who know you unfortunately. But a lot of what I am hearing in your comment leads me to believe that you are not consistently drawing. I would challenge you to 1 … first get a job wherever you can. It’s doesn’t matter. This first issue is not something unique to artist. I got my undergraduate in information technology and when I came back I could not get a job in the industry even though I was one of the top graduating students in my group. I eventually got a job as a bank teller. This is life. If you need a job get one. 2. If you want to continue to work towards becoming an artist I challenge you to get a timer and actually diligently time how much time you spend per day or per week practicing. I bet you will be in for a shock given your comments. All the best.
@artofdaviii
@artofdaviii 2 ай бұрын
Such a good episode to start my day off! Glad I found your channel.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
I am so glad you are enjoying the content! Was up late last night trying to get this finished up. Lol. Thanks!
@DennisCNolasco
@DennisCNolasco 2 ай бұрын
Always look forward to seeing new videos from you Vincent. We should change the phrase “embrace the grind” to “enjoy the grind.” Take care my friend.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Enjoy the grind … I like it! Always great hearing from you as well. Thanks!
@keeysOST
@keeysOST 2 ай бұрын
I started drawing at 13, but this advice didn't really dawn on me until i was 20. When i first started it was easy to draw all day every day because i was simply infatuated with it. Somewhere along the way i started wanting things to be so perfect that i was scared to make something that sucked, therefore stunting my growth and making me go months between each drawing. I'm fortunate enough that I really enjoy the process, so it was easy to eventually get into the habit of drawing everyday. I think I've made more progress in these last 4 years than i had between 2016-2019.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, staying away from perfection is a constant struggle. Especially right after you do a piece you are particularly proud of. I have to keep my eye open for this. Glad to hear you are enjoying your drawings again. Thanks for sharing!
@DragonvidalZ
@DragonvidalZ 2 ай бұрын
I discovered your channel years ago looking for information about Proko's courses, and the truth is that you are a great inspiration to always seek to improve oneself (No matter the field of development), thank you for sharing your adventure in the world of drawing, personally you have inspired me to grab a pencil and learn without fear of making mistakes. Greetings and thank you very much
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you! I really appreciate those of you who started following in those early days. It was the push I needed to keep going. Those early days I struggled a lot and was often very frustrated even though I was making good progress it was not a happy time. I learned a lot from those experiences and I’m definitely in a better mental state today. Thanks for pulling me through!
@DennisCNolasco
@DennisCNolasco 2 ай бұрын
For the record, I don’t take offense when people say I’m talented. They do mean well and aren’t saying that to ignore the years and years of grinding day by day. Most people don’t know how much time any skill takes, and even those that do know, still say that phrase as a general compliment. I’ve said it myself to others regarding their own unique set of skills 😄
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. However, he plays a lot in church/gospel settings and what they mean is that God has given certain people gifts that others don’t have. Not everyone means this of course and even those that do really are just using the vocabulary they know to express a compliment. However I do think this idea creates an illusion that … maybe God just didn’t give you that gift so it’s okay if you give up when you find it hard. It down plays the role of hard work and as a community that’s focused on building our skills it is not helpful to think … maybe I just have the gift. But yeah I know what you mean.
@Saoness
@Saoness 2 ай бұрын
This is wonderful, it's the kick that I needed. Thank you so much for not sugar coating it, the hard truth. The discouragement and frustration is high with me right now, wanting to draw and paint the things I see and imagine, but the things I make are ugly and not good at all. So, I need to keep going. Thanks again!
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Let’s do it! I’ll be standing next to you on top of the pile of papers ☺️
@hanar1998
@hanar1998 2 ай бұрын
i used to love drawing when im a kid, but i gave up drawing due to depression (its crazy how easy it is to lose all the spark). now, 10 years later, i picked up a pencil again. i draw like a kid, still. thank you for the push! i have a lot to learn
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear! Hey we will learn together. Just did a page of hands .. well most of them are hands 😬 … the learning never ends! It’s good to know I have a hobby that won’t end tomorrow ☺️
@kenkenichi7461
@kenkenichi7461 2 ай бұрын
I learn the most when im thinking about art and reading about it
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
I do quite a bit of listening to art videos myself. It helps me to stay eager to pick up my sketchbook. And I really love hearing the stories of others. So I’ve been listening and viewing a lot of sketchbook tours lately from smaller channels and bro there are some really cool sketchbooks and artists out there. It’s inspiring! I have to draw more. Lol.
@BELOV3D777
@BELOV3D777 2 ай бұрын
I think I improved exponentially because I tried to understand how to draw by following Kim Jung Ji’s methods of observing. I’ve only been drawing for about half a year. I spend more time observing, then mentally I apply what I see on an imaginary piece of paper, finally I draw on a real piece of paper to confirm my theories. Also like you mentioned in the video, understand your mistakes and fix them until you understand how to reproduce an outcome you want everytime and from every perspective angle. Understand how to manipulate the cross contours to achieve exactly what you’re imagining.
@russiachan2
@russiachan2 2 ай бұрын
Are there any videos you watched to observe like Kim Jung Ji?
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Gi as a legend. I have seen some of his videos as well. Glad this worked for you! Appreciate the comment. This is one of my favorite artists.
@BELOV3D777
@BELOV3D777 2 ай бұрын
@@russiachan2 not really. Many videos start to confuse me. It’s about finding your own methods and rules to recreating what you’re seeing. I watched his interviews and tried to understand how he learned to draw. He grew up in a time without Internet or many teachers. So when i started i was so impressed with his urban sketching. And I tried to understand how he did it So i could recreate it. So what i did was I would sit down at work in the lounge and just observe what was in front of me. Then id try to draw it. I failed many times at first. But it was a process where i would rinse and repeat four steps: observe the shapes in front of me, figure out how it would look like on a mental piece of paper in my head first, then draw on real paper(my phone drawing app) to confirm if my theories were correct. Lastly, I’d take a picture from the view that my eyes were seeing and use it to figure out how these 3d objects can be placed on a flat piece of paper. The real picture is like checking your answers. This way you’re developing your own rules to how perspective works.
@BELOV3D777
@BELOV3D777 2 ай бұрын
@@russiachan2 other things that really brought my drawing to the next level was cross contours. When i watched videos on cross contours it blew my mind. I thought this is the secret to understanding how to draw anything. Being able to apply cross contours to other’s art can help you to understand how they produced it. It also helped me to understand perspective tremendously. Now that I’ve been constantly observing i learned that the greatest artists have minds that are similar to 3d modeling software. In your head you are( just like a computer) starting with a simple shape like a box then manipulating it to have a similar shape to whatever object you’re imagining. I learned this was the objective of the drawing 100 boxes without ever having to draw 100 boxes. When you manipulate a box you can shorten or lengthen the edges to whatever you desire. This is the key to having a great memory recall of objects. It’s not memorizing each line to recreate an object. Instead it is about recalling the volume of that object. It’s about learning how to create volume and manipulating it. Also understand how the planes of the object are in relation to other. In the example of a box, all the planes are 90 degrees to each other. If you were to draw a skull, then you’d start to understand some planes are around 90 degrees relative to each other(front of head to side of head)and others might just be a 45 degree turn(3 planes of forehead). Always remember where the planes of an object are facing. Some planes of the skull always face to the front, some to the side, others maybe always point at a 45 degree to the ground(like the lips, bottom of nose).
@BELOV3D777
@BELOV3D777 2 ай бұрын
@@russiachan2 lastly i read a lot of comic books, manga, manhwa, and observe others awesome art and study to see how i could recreate the scene. Reading comics help me to stay invested in learning because as im reading I’m fascinated with the art. I think about the cross contours, the perspective, the volume of the shapes in the images. I think about how would i go about recreating it. I’d start simple with understanding the overall perspective of the image. Then I’d think about the objects that have different vanishing points in the image. The last step would be to then focus on detail. I hope some of what i wrote could help you in your journey. I’m still going at it although i understand all about frustration. I just hope that i actually achieve my dream one day
@lisbet000
@lisbet000 2 ай бұрын
love love love your channel, it was a hidden treasure! and I’m so happy I found you, keep going!
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying the content!
@Noriimi
@Noriimi 2 ай бұрын
your video's is a fresh breath of air, very inspireing 🤩thank you and gz on your 10k subs!
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! ☺️ It’s always great to hear this type of encouragement. It helps keep me motivated as well. So you are a part of helping my journey be successful. Thanks! 10k subs that’s crazy! I’m just some dude with a cellphone!
@tBiblaxs47
@tBiblaxs47 Ай бұрын
When i was younger i really enjoyed to draw as a kid , i had phases where i liked to draw , my own characters .. they was like from a mmorpg had unique weapons and skills and i loved it, they looked not that good but i loved it to draw them .. and in my child eyes i thought that they are brilliant art. Than when i was a teenager i quitet for years , i was a wannabe gangster and smoked weed for years .. than i got my anime phases where i liked to draw again , for around 1-2 always in this episodes and than quit for a few years again .. And yet i am 30 one year ago i started again and i found the passion in it again! I draw every day for hours for about 7 month , and i developed a lot! But still after all that progress im not satisfied at all because now my "artistic eye" is on a high lvl and my drawing skills are not matching.. lately i have a hard time to sit my ass down to draw even i love it .. i have so many dutys in the daily life , i work fulltime for me and my wife , and because i got out of shape im focused with gym and diet and im also enjoying the sport .. but beside all that its so fucking hard to sit dowm and draw.. i know i have time windows to do it .. but somehome i struggle so much with it. And the more time passes i feel guilty about myself .. i feel i really have talent for draw and i just have to practice more .. i dont wanna end up again quitting art for years.. have someone felt the same ? Have someone any advice ? It drives me crazy tbh .. Thanks for reading this far , it felt good to open my heart ❤
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 Ай бұрын
Hey thanks for pouring out your heart. And I think the reality is sometimes there are things more important than drawing or art. So don’t beat yourself up too much. Do what you can. If you find a break take advantage of it. That’s the beauty of having a hobby. You do the best you can. You make progress when you can. It’s okay. Sounds like your life overall is an adventure … embrace it.
@exeopro410
@exeopro410 2 ай бұрын
This channel will definitely keep me drawing, cheers to you, sir ❤
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Thanks appreciate it!
@stygiantint
@stygiantint 2 ай бұрын
I remembered when I was a beginner how art felt so difficult to grow with, I have no internet connection to watch a video tutorial so I worked hard, I been practicing everyday after school day I draw a lot until I achieved realism level in arts but I stopped and retired once I reached that level also because I got busy at my work in the office then I found drawing with Ink pen is relaxing so I focused on using pen up until now, thanks for this inspirational video that made me look back and see how far I am in my journey with arts now🍻🍻👌👌✨✨
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
That’s amazing to hear! I love ink as well but my current sketchbook doesn’t do well with it so I’ll go back to it once I finish this book. Thanks for sharing!
@johnnylamonte3451
@johnnylamonte3451 2 ай бұрын
Need to get a spiral sketchbook and fill it with hand studies, cause hands remain my biggest bane of my existence.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Yeah practice will help. I’m thinking on doing a few more studies myself. And some more faces and clothing. Just remember to feel free to bounce around when you start getting tired. Once you are enjoying your practice!
@johnnylamonte3451
@johnnylamonte3451 2 ай бұрын
@canilearntodraw2579 yep! Also helps that I wanna use hardcover sketchbooks for drawing for fun while softer covers are mainly for studies.
@ashleyattherockshop
@ashleyattherockshop 2 ай бұрын
Excited to finally finish my first sketchbook (im almost halfway there) and even more excited to make it to 11. Thanks for the advice ☺️
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
It is a good feeling to be able to keep going with that sketchbook. Thank you for this kind message!
@audenwu8562
@audenwu8562 Ай бұрын
Your sketches are ase awesome!
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@nadaart386
@nadaart386 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your journey-it’s really inspiring, and your videos have been super helpful to me! I’m not a total beginner and already know how to draw, especially from references. But when I try to draw from my imagination, I feel stuck, almost like I’m starting over. My observation skills and eye for detail feel much more advanced than my hand, so I can see my mistakes, but I struggle to put what I see in my head onto paper. How do you recommend overcoming this fear of making mistakes and building that connection between observation and execution? And how do I know when it’s time to move on from basics like boxes to more advanced studies, like mannequins? Should I follow a structured course or create my own program? I’d love to hear your thoughts!
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Hey nadaart. The trick here is the only way to get better at putting what is I. Your head on paper is to practice more. It does help if you can follow a plan or course if you are new to drawing. Not because it is a magic bullet but because it will give you a good idea of the kinds of foundational principles you need to be focusing on as you practice. Overtime as you practice your brain will begin to figure things out and when you look back you will realize that some things that you struggled with in the past are no longer issues or much easier. There is also no timeline for when you should move on from boxes. Again the most important thing is to do what keeps you motivated. So just drawing boxes for long stretches is probably not the best idea. Draw what you think you will want to draw when you get better because … no matter what you do you will likely not be that good when you start out. Take the pressure off. Either way this is going to be a bit of a journey.
@drawpillTREY
@drawpillTREY 2 ай бұрын
Are you using a reference image for these figures?
@drawpillTREY
@drawpillTREY 2 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff btw. Listened all the way. Definitely true.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
Hi! Morning! Thanks for the comment and kind words. There were no references used for anything draw in the video. Which is one baby step along the way. I’m really enjoying the process. They didn’t all turn out the way I wanted but I’m learning!
@allisongrimaldo1502
@allisongrimaldo1502 2 ай бұрын
How did you learn to construct the 3D mannequin?
@allisongrimaldo1502
@allisongrimaldo1502 2 ай бұрын
And pose it. I want to learn how. I heard you have to learn how to do this first before moving to anatomy. Dont know where to start… I want to learn how to pose it in all directions
@thebottman1
@thebottman1 2 ай бұрын
Hi there. Since Vincent hasn't replied yet, I can help you out with this. An artist by the name of Tom Fox has a book (and a video course as well) that helps with this and much more. The name of the book is "Anatomy for Artists: Drawing Form and Pose" and the video course is "Basic Principles of Drawing People from Imagination" which is available through Domestika.
@allisongrimaldo1502
@allisongrimaldo1502 2 ай бұрын
@@thebottman1this is so helpful. Will definitely buy the book and course. Thanks!
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
thebottman is correct. I would say the book has more details than the course. But of course if money isn’t an issue then go for it. Getting aquatinted with drawing boxes in different orientations will be helpful as well if you don’t know how. Enjoy!
@thebottman1
@thebottman1 2 ай бұрын
@@allisongrimaldo1502 You're very welcome! And Vincent is also correct, the book goes into much more detail than the course, although if you like learning from videos and want to get started right away with the box mannequin, the video course is a good start. Once you're comfortable there, you'll probably feel much more equipped to dive into the book, because Tom Fox covers A LOT in it for a single book. You'll be amazed! Have fun!
@larrypolanco8195
@larrypolanco8195 16 күн бұрын
facts
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 15 күн бұрын
☺️
@Otis_.
@Otis_. Ай бұрын
Like bro, I always get the “you mostly do sketches do finished artworks”. Like what the fuck does that shit actually mean? How do you judge commitment to an art piece? And why is that so vague, that you can’t follow up with how?
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 Ай бұрын
I hear you. I’m more of a puzzle guy myself. I see all the sketch stuff as fun and small projects in themselves. And eventually you get to put all the smaller puzzle pieces together. I am learning more and more that there is so much art advice … most contradicts each other and yet almost all of it is (given the right situation) correct. It really depends on your goal. So listen to the advice and then take the ones that are helping to lead you to your goal. It will be trial and error but eventually you will get better at understanding how the advice will affect your practice and goals.
@Otis_.
@Otis_. Ай бұрын
@ so to summarize, be selective with criticism that you take?
@sadie6048
@sadie6048 Ай бұрын
you keep repeating the same thing every vid but I feel like it’s on purpose and kinda genius to “keep you drawing “
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 Ай бұрын
Yes it is on purpose ☺️ … got me! By the way have you been drawing?
@sadie6048
@sadie6048 Ай бұрын
@ yeah but basic shapes not on that level yet
@noahfletcher3019
@noahfletcher3019 2 ай бұрын
Literally everyone talks about how you need to practice and fail for years. Why are you saying nobody talks about that? Honestly this commentary just sounds rather repetitive and empty. Keep up the art though. Nice work.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 2 ай бұрын
I rewatched the video 1:45 … “quite well known but not talked about nearly enough for how important it is”. Where did I say nobody talks about this? Is there any art topic that hasn’t been talked about? Should all art KZbinrs stop making videos because what they want to say has already been said? And the reason why we don’t talk about it a lot is because it doesn’t get clicks … you know what does? Look at Marc Burnet’s channel … what is the most viewed video in the past 4 months … “Learn to draw faces in 7 days” … thanks for the comment and support but i think you missed the whole point of the video.
@OMGKiiro
@OMGKiiro Ай бұрын
dislike.
@canilearntodraw2579
@canilearntodraw2579 Ай бұрын
Lol
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