Why Barcelona are better and Real Madrid are worse

[@TheAthleticFC]

Hello! Apologies, we used an image of Pau Victor for Hector Fort at 27:04 and also mislabeled him as aged 22 instead of 18. We'll be more careful in the future.

[@IamPrxmetheus]

Why shutting up is better and talking is worse

[@architchaudhary1285]

That was a trapezoid, not rhomboid at min 8:57

[@Burpingtogheter]

How could you.... completely ruined my day, i feel traumatised, i feel i was cheated, you can't just do that

[@thenamesbarreto]

Hector Fort would have been more careful.

[@armiter87]

Unforgivable

[@linusxv181]

Posting this before the 4-0 thrashing is wild

[@reasondro]

They know ball

[@gabrielcinaqui4334]

I mean good way to prove their point

[@fatih8053]

Everyone with a brain knew Barca were better, and they proved it now.

[@mk22vids37]

I mean everyone knew this was happening

[@NostalgiNorden]

Yeah the Real defense aged badly...

[@PantalonRouge]

Anyone here after 4-0 vs Madrid 😅

[@sulaman4280]

Yeah

[@kkr434]

YEAH

[@7mo0od70]

Yeah

[@DanielWinifred]

You all are fast

[@TheReeelBradPitt]

Why did Bayern ever let go of Flick? He’s been an elite manager for years, it about time he gets his respect

[@Antonio-hb8rd]

Isn't it crazy how Barca can go from disaster to a top team in a short time and people still think Ten Hag needs time.

[@duyanhng8430]

financial disaster no less, said what you want about united but they always has cash to splurge

[@Btw8901]

Because 1.Barca has la masia and they churn in great players many of barca starters are youth players of their academy united dont have that heritage 2.People especially united fans are delusional sometimes

[@alexojideagu]

@@Btw8901 lol heritage? Man Utd literally dominated the 1990s with their youth academy and won the UCL in 99. They had a better Youth Academy and more UCL's than Barcelona in the 1990s up until 2006 Messi Xavi Iniesta era. Only recently has their academy dried up after Fergie.

[@ravenblackops]

​@@alexojideaguuhm, yeah, they had 1 UCL more :))) And they've had good academy back then as well, players like Guardiola, Luis Garcia, Pepe Reina, Guillermo Amor, Sergi Barjuan etc, came through the academy. Not on the level of the Xavi and Iniesta generation, but high level players nonetheless.

[@vishnurp93]

Ten hag played attractive football with Ajax. I still remember how they dominated Real Madrid in Bernabéu. I think the problem is with united players and the environment there.

[@shoyo9536]

This aged like fine wine.

[@NostalgiNorden]

Not the Real defence.

[@aldenpadilla1773]

what?

[@hao2000ki]

@@aldenpadilla1773 never heard that expression before?

[@Fligunem]

⁠@@aldenpadilla1773F wine gets better as it gets older. This video makes more sense now after the 4-0

[@OserojiemenKing]

Because Madrid, instead of signing to improve on a very well balanced system, ditched the system to sign (and accomodate) a galatico. Barca, on the other hand, got a a very good coach who built a very good system around what the club has available. Both clubs basically reverted to type.

[@BIadelores]

Should’ve signed someone like Kimmich to compensate for the loss of Kroos. They have 0 creators in the midfield, everyone there is just running around trying to overpower players and 0 time trying to make creative passes. Modric can, but he’s only one guy and he’s too old to be starting hard games. Arda Guler can provide something like that but i guess Ancelotti is just not interested in the player.

[@orvilfuentes5444]

⁠@@BIadeloresancelotti is not gonna trust a young developing player 😂

[@Fligunem]

@@orvilfuentes5444Kimmich is 29😭😭😭

[@Symphonic_840m]

​@@BIadeloresI'm starting to think they signed him because Barcelona wanted him

[@debdeepchattoraj8684]

​@@orvilfuentes5444 it Vini and Rodrygo were both young and developing when they joined 😂 IF Arda had any of the ability to back the hype he would be on the team.

[@TheSiemek]

Again, after so many years, there is some thrill in watching El Classico.

[@Ibrahim-nf6yh]

Yeah I agree Finally Barcelona can match up to Real Madrid and the el clasico hopefully can become like it was with Messi and Ronaldo 😌

[@sadssadsa5944]

to be fair not for me. i know the ref will burry barca today. just how it is

[@SouthJerzVillains]

@@sadssadsa5944already crying in advance is crazy lmao

[@sadssadsa5944]

@SouthJerzVillains 5 penalties in 6 games. Ref already handed Madrid 5 points they shouldn't have. But sure I'm crazy. Just watch. Every time Barca is in a good spot refs save Madrid.

[@sadssadsa5944]

@@SouthJerzVillains firat free kicks Madrid gets should be a Barca Fredrick. Go figure. First 5 min ref already helping. Lol.

[@TheSiemek]

I love how Madrid used Mbappe to solve the problem that didn’t exist in the first place…

[@adityachaudhary9898]

as barca fan we know if instead of mbappe they would sign Haaland ,its game over for us

[@bhaskarmukherjee4768]

Yup. Madrid absolutely needs a classical striker. There are limits to Vini and Rodrigo without Kroos and Modric, which a resurgent Barca have started to show them.

[@ferrantepallas]

Brilliant! Thank you!

[@TheSiemek]

They need someone who can pass the ball and be a real creative midfielder. They bought young guys who are much better at defending or intercepting the ball.

[@jarveyjaguar4395]

If only he kept things as they were 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he actually made them worse.

[@jaejunpark-lh2un]

Who’s here after Barca won Madrid 4-0😂

[@tomboati4144]

hi there

[@mcgc93]

Should've been 6 - 0 like dammit Robert haha. But he did show up when he was most needed

[@OddEyes1]

Dude said Mbappe got 6 goals like 5 of them weren’t from penalties.

[@Belal22]

Only 2 lewa got more pens

[@MildlyHumorous-cq1nn]

So? He gets in the position where he forces penalty.

[@OddEyes1]

@@MildlyHumorous-cq1nn the refs gift Madrid penalties you mean.

[@quikxvfx6516]

@@OddEyes1 lewa got more pens

[@enockbanda4009]

So a penalty isn't a goal? What are you saying? All the clubs in the world are dumb for having a penalty taker selected since it's a free goal right? Heck, have a fan from the crowd take it because it's so easy and guaranteed to go in. That's what you are implying.

[@VenomVersace]

aged like fine wine

[@wira572]

as a barca fan, the unhealthy amount of hype toward the current barca somehow make me worried about el classico. guess i haven't recovered from the trauma of these past few years of suffering lmfao. edit : i guess im worried for nothing, and the only thing that could make it better is if lewa could just score the hat trick. but that aside, very well done barca.

[@Prettyepic12]

We beat bayern so i am pretty confident tbh

[@quikxvfx6516]

@@Prettyepic12 you aint beating madrid

[@Gooner184]

Relax bro

[@ian-hm6cx]

Think we did alright today

[@Sifaat-q5l]

Calma bro calma❤

[@moezbendhahbi9539]

Picture of Pau Victor speaking of Hector Fort 😂😂 Great video though

[@jerano4kt]

Rudiger’s goal came from a Mbappe cross from the right wing. Vini’s goal was an open goal, tackle on Mbappe by Dortmund defender. Lucas’ goal came from the right, he passed the ball, it deflected back to him & he scored individually. Vini’s 2nd goal, he got the ball inside his own half & ran with & scored from outside the box. Kylian’s run making it easier. Vini’s 3rd goal is individual brilliance. No goal was scored from proggresive plays through the middle like they say in this video.

[@EgoHead710]

Vini's 2nd goal came after Jude's challenge in Madrid's half.

[@galaxy135]

What a great video. In an online world of football where there is so much noise for so called content. These guys so chill and delivering fact after fact without agendas.

[@aryan.9562]

Hansi's Barcelona : Collective Teamwork Carlo's Madrid : Individual Quality

[@Honorbound43]

That’s what media keeps pushing and it’s kinda bs

[@_DioBrando_]

Carlo's Madrid: 2 Ligas , 2 UCLs Flick's Barca: Nada

[@ilham9108]

​@@_DioBrando_bro flick started his Barca career like 2 months ago, of course carlo is gonna have much more trophy in his Madrid career because he has been coaching them for several years

[@ricaard6959]

@@_DioBrando_ You somehow managed to make the dumbest comment in KZbin history, congrats.

[@_DioBrando_]

@@ilham9108 If he only started a few months ago, then no one should be spewing this "collective teamwork vs Individual quality" rubbish. Let Barca earn it on the pitch with silverware first. Btw I only mentioned the major trophies Carlo won in his second stint. He also won another CL in his first stint. So that's 2 Ligas, 3 CLs and a handful of other trophies. Barca have a long way to go before matching that.

[@RichD424]

That reply to “Do you drink soup or eat it?” 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@iuriepripa3171]

yeah y'all cooked hard

[@thenamesbarreto]

I guess I'm the first. Cheers!! P.S. JJ Bull's "Pedri Pedri Pedri" needs to be heard in the new Spotify Camp Nou.

[@antonystark2290]

27:02 , That's not Hector Fort ; That's Pau Victor

[@thenamesbarreto]

Surely if Hector Fort replaced the graphics guy, he would do it definitely better.

[@josephjojo7626]

Also he's not 22, he's only 17. Loads of potential

[@donukb]

Sorry, you're right. I've mistakenly used a photo of Pau Victor not Hector Fort. And I've also mislabeled him as being 22 instead of 18. Thanks for the reminder, we'll be more vigilant in future episodes!

[@thedigitalbash1506]

I won't blame the editor because those Barca kids all look the same to me. 😅

[@simonyricools]

Alpaca hair

[@ayushrajeshwar7715]

Who's here after the 4-0 over Madrid 🤣🤣🤣

[@VictorMadristas]

Without watching the Full vid.. you're right

[@arglc]

1. Bellingham is an average Central midfielder. 2. Mbappe is at his best when there is a Central striker for him to play off, usually off the left. 3. Vinicius is at his best attacking space off the left, very much like Mbappe, but he is also able to create more than Mbappe does. 3. Without Kroos and Modric playing limited minutes, due to his age, the Real Madrid midfield isn't creative enough nor is dominant enough with the ball. A very physical midfield but something that can't dominate a game.

[@Dxvxd510]

yall called it

[@dontwannaname]

Toni Kroos was the Joe Devine of Real Madrid

[@shishsuke]

The Tifo football podcast of the Tifo channel if you will

[@jacobheap082]

Watching JJ clap back later with the pivot watcher comment was amazing

[@jacobheap082]

Watching JJ clap back later with the pivot watcher comment was amazing

[@Aarya-v5n]

The last hyped up El Clasico and which was very even pre-game and delivered as well was the 2-2 draw, in Ronaldo's last El Clasico. Ronaldo, Messi, Bale and Suarez all scored. These current players still don't give the same hit as Messi and Ronaldo, but it will be damn exciting. I support Madrid and Man United, but if Flick's Barca continue to believe in their aggressive style and win today, mad respect for them. We forget that Barca do have a talented squad but a squad which is very very young. Flick is doing wonders.

[@yeabsiramengistu1002]

I support Barca and united.. glade at least one of the teams we support are doing well..😅😂...

[@DS-bz4mz]

You support ManU *and* Real? Game's unironically gone

[@Saasori]

​@@DS-bz4mzI'm telling you 😅. But yeah they're fans like that

[@Aarya-v5n]

@@DS-bz4mz Why? What's wrong with that? I started watching football because of Ronaldo and I always liked to watch a transitional fast style of play, so I naturally ended up supporting both these teams, and that too when City and Barca were on the top. And Man United have made things easy for me by not playing in the CL, because they can't come up against Madrid LOL! The game would go wrong if I would dump United to watch Madrid just because they are winning. Pretty sure many Ronaldo fans also support both teams.

[@SMSami-uq2my]

@@yeabsiramengistu1002 bro i support barca and united too

[@kindface]

"In many ways, it would be good if they er..scored every time". Brilliant comedic pause/timing LOL Liked. Subscribed.

[@TrueBK77]

anyone here after the match? Cuz I am. Thank you youtube

[@T.E.S.S.]

JJ casually dropping more info about new FM features than SI have

[@scottkim135]

Wow, this aged like fine wine

[@straightouttazambia2835]

A rare positive video about Barcelona from The Athletic. I guess it helps that Dermot and Balluis were nowhere near this, their takes after the Sevilla gane were ghastly especially with Ayo sneaking in the talk about Barcas finances coz that seems to be the only thing he knows about Barca.

[@icanthinkofahandlelol]

People here after Real Madrid 0-4 Barça 👇🏾

[@LeeRenthlei]

For the first time in a long time El Clasico hyped people up and what a game it was!

[@Jonathan-ug9yu]

The month Barcelona are having is insane. Is it twenty-one goals and only conceded two 🤯

[@madlad4206]

With bayern and real in the mix too, it’s insane

[@CH33KYiZninj4]

a 12 yr old kid could play football manager and understand what the budget restraints are on registering footballers for barcelona, how does a professional board not understand?

[@n0body550]

Because its not as simple as a bloody video game

[@froodlenoodle]

dunno i reckon you should knock their doors down and demand a job

[@Esco-lq4rb]

They went through a lot of work to do this video and all many people are worried is that they mixed up Pau Victor and Hector Fort.

[@CairoJames9]

Imagine....pleasing people is very difficult.

[@theflashgordon193]

They mixed up pau and fort 😡🫵

[@SKa-tt9nm]

⁠@@theflashgordon193no, I’m pretty sure they got it right.

[@The6Foot4Asian]

This aged so well that I pledge to never miss an episode.

[@ManLikeMatts]

Never lose the humour that you guys out into these videos 😂😂 I always love the analysis and chuckle and the jokes

[@Veaseify]

4:55 Barcelona literally played the same way with Neymar, Suarez and Messi. There was a huge gap between the midfield and those three but 363 goals in 3 seasons between them took care of things....

[@TeoFlandoliOkeefe-mu4do]

Messi and Neymar are two of the greatest playmakers ever... add to that Busquets and Iniesta, and that team had more than enough creation. Vini and Mbappe are great, but they're nowhere near the same level of self-sufficient in offense as MSN were.

[@athosgomesfonseca]

Barcelonista here, I had to listen to the game instead of watching it and must admit that while I didn’t think winning beyond us, specially after the first half, I was very pleasantly surprised to get the W nonetheless and to have our front three all perform and score, it surely did wonders to uplift us from an otherwise disappointing season last year, specially in Europe. Kudos to our players but here goes my unbiased analytics of Madrid: You can’t continue to say their missing Kroos is at the root of their failing but rather the early stage they find themselves in what with figuring out their best approach. Barça’s high line is essentially keeping is from conceding much and for attacking sides like Madrid, they are going to try and turn that against us. We were absolutely spot on and created enough offsides to upturn Madrid and make them frustrated. This Madrid is a side that can only play and win when they have momentum and with that first Lewandovsky goal, we made them insecure and forced their hand. de Jong’s abilities centrally then tore them apart and we got four. Madrid can learn this from this game: play a 3-4-3 allowing Vini to play as LM and Mbappé to play a LAM/LW/LF role where he drifts in allowing Vini to take full advantage of the width and pace to overload the left flank. With a healthy Rodrygo play as a RAM/RF hybrid, Jude can better adjust to playing centrally and allowing for overloads moving left or make runs in centrally or right with Rodrygo. The other mids for Madrid should be Valverde as the RCM with either Tchouameni or Kamavinga slotting in in the CDM/LWB role so they can support the three at the back with Rudiger and Militão being the de facto CBs. Simply put, they’re going to become increasingly comfortable playing as pressing game and using their left flank speed to get in behind and Valverde will have to step up to play off Rodrygo on the right to somehow balance their mid and forward line.

[@perjamer8333]

Mbappe isn't that good he's just super quick.

[@lukeschofield574]

I swear everyone was saying how much of a problem Madrid would be adding Mbappé but I knew it would only create problems

[@commonsense2156]

Its simple they didn't replace Kroos and signed a 2nd LW instead which clogs up Vini's space

[@kienoduy7194]

No Kroos replacement = no control

[@brianb5940]

Well, he certainly wasnt wrong 🤣

[@ThePriceIsNeverRight]

These guys are actually smart and know ball and their opinions are backed with stats and data, unlike thos ESPN FC pundits TRASH ! I suspect they watch football like that

[@bbqR0ADK1LL]

21:30 Absolutely savage😂

[@JaiShreeJesusMubharak]

you are a damn wizard Athletic

[@Diego-hh8do]

27:05 that’s Pau Victor 😭

[@jackson857]

Real Madrid 0-4 Barcelona

[@dant3175]

Randomly cued up an episode of the podcast the other day . . . was ecstatic that Joe was back. Felt like the good old days with all the hilarious silliness ❤️.

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

interesting how different the discussions on the BVB vs RM games are compared to here in Germany and internationally. For our media it was clear: Sahin missjudged and shouldnt have swapped Emre Can and Anton in and should have kept Gittens on the pitch, while you discuss it from the perspective of Madrid and what they did wrong in the first half.

[@adanbarajas4257]

i have to apologize athletic, i wasn't familiar with your ball knowledge

[@RashidHasanRafi-ru7fn]

Robert Lewandowski, the Joe Devine of Fc Barcelona

[@pepvaldez]

Thank you for having actual objective analysis of football.

[@shatter5874]

New to the sport, love that one gentleman who broke down the Dortmund game. Love that level of analysis

[@aldenpadilla1773]

Why did madrid buy mbappe to make themselves weaker 😂

[@Therealaldi]

Damn bro aged like wine

[@ibrahimsamra1739]

This aged well

[@jekanyika]

Real Madrid love their galacticos, but having all the best players doesn't always make you the best team

[@peachy_momo]

Barca really flicking well 🔥

[@T.E.S.S.]

that's really bad

[@popps33]

Hmm.. So Real is having a Midfield issue. Barcelona doesn't have that problem due to continuity and youth. Barcelona getting healthy makes things even more scary

[@neodhlamini9983]

This has aged well 🤣

[@sonamgurmet6803]

That’s Pau Victor not Hector Fort 🤣🤣

[@arielayo]

Toni Kroos’ importance to Real Madrid is equivalent to Joe Devine’s importance to the Athletic podcast

[@tanzolo4487]

As a Barca fan. You can’t imagine how wonderful this is. They bought Bellingham and Mbappé. I mean it’s basically Galacticos 2.0. And they are losing. To an attack consisting of an 18 year old. A 36 year old and an underrated Player. You love to see it.

[@MADRIDPOOL44207]

This is Madrid we make comebacks just watch 😎

[@davet8134]

Hansi Flick. That's it. Barca haven't had an elite coach in 10 years

[@FreddieGamingHD]

Best manager since Guardiola.

[@cademartin7637]

I absolutely love the non-premier league content. Especially the Barça content!

[@dannyfahrel2924]

4-0

[@mlungisimkhize983]

The interesting part is how Madrid deal with Lewandowski dropping to receive the ball because they struggled to deal with Gurraisy and how Madrid exploit the Highline from Barcelona, Raphinha and Vinicius are just unstoppable.

[@devingranitz781]

In the goal scoring section, and then just saying how many goals Vini and Mbappe have does not tell the full story. I think mention the fact that a lot of those are actually pks would give a better representation of how poorly they are playing together

[@blankn1612]

That’s a heckuva headline to start.😂😂😂😂. Mbappe has scored half his goals from the penalty spot. So it has been a challenge so far. And Jude was running in his lane this past weekend against Barca.

[@mrbismarck]

JJ getting sunburn off that orange wall.

[@jackbrownio3]

Totally agree that Joe is the Kroos of Tifo and the Athletic. JJ is the Pedri. John is the versatile and Stalwart James Milner

[@Irishkb]

I love how so often the tifo boys bridge the gap between eye test vs data. The truth is always in between and they really help bring that to the fore

[@Bloodcrave87]

Crazy insight, props

[@aniketsojitra876]

From where do you get your t-shirts Jon? I'd want one of these.

[@BatkoNashBandera774]

Before I indulge in watching your opinion and (well-crafted) video on it: Barca fan here and since the days of Tiki Taka it has been somewhat painful. I am happy to see fresh faces and immense talent at the club. My other liked team is in a much worse situation squad-wise , Manchester United.

[@shreyashparekh15]

Pivot watcher is the best name for a position

[@Henry-jl1xt]

Crazy how much regocnition Kroos is finally getting. Deserved, too.

[@thewhitejackharlow]

Damn, i was really excited about hearing Toni Kroos’ opinion on soup consumption.

[@louis9926]

i get the feeling that JJ Bull and John Mckenzie dont like each other they always seem passive agressive

[@SKa-tt9nm]

I don’t think anyone but Joe likes Jon. And I mean in life, not only on the pod.

[@Antonio-hb8rd]

Mbappe is massively overrated to the point I think people are paid to say he's the best.

[@ayushsrivastava6523]

Joe Devine is Toni Kroos of the channel. Spot On!

[@aniketdey9704]

Huge credibility upgrade

[@Rodney231]

I guess there will be no mention that a huge percentage of goals came from the penalty spot especially in La Liga.

[@EmmanuelOnyono]

Great analysis big up guys ❤

[@jpquinn1989]

Joe is becoming self-aware of how powerful he is. I’d say we have to stop him, but honestly I enjoy him too much. So I for one welcome our new Devine Overlord.

[@AbdulMuij08]

Really loved the chemistry among these threes😂

[@Speedyvampir2]

The guy in the middle is actually annoying 🤡

[@dshannon565]

Jude Bellingham is nothing like Kroos. Bellingham is a typical English box to box, arrive late in the box and score goals player. Bellingham cannot dictate the game, his passing range is average and he’s not that technical. The English have done the usual overrating of their players. Bellingham is not a replacement for Kroos at all. The English think a great midfielder is someone who scores goals and gets stuck in. On the continent great midfielders are players who are technical, great passers and can dictate a game like a Modric, Kroos and iniesta. This view is why the English very rarely produce players who dictate the game. On where gavi fits in. The lads were saying he could go in the 10 position but gavi isn’t that creative. Olmo is far superior to gavi in every way in the offensive side of the game. IMO there is no starting place for gavi in this team. He’s a solid squad player but not a starter. I think he’s very overrated and also he gets carded constantly which puts the team at risk of getting a man sent off.

[@hao2000ki]

1:35 i love the stoic reaction from jj lmfao

[@matekanentlamelle3944]

some how i dont know how but we have to win or be in the final of the UCL to recover from this

[@arthurmorgan332]

Mbappe hasn't been the same since that night in Lusail.

[@rahulrayirath8135]

The so-called 'BEST STRIKER' squandered chances that any other sunday league striker would've netted yesterday. 😂

[@Skillssue]

Their dwindling midfield quality is a taking a huge toll on their chance creation

[@dip_08]

Loved the awkward tension

[@AhmedMostafa-gu8ot]

3 of Mbappe's 6 goals and 2 of Vini's 5 came from penalties. So whether the two can synergize in open play, while wanting to occupy similar spaces, is still very much an unanswered question.

[@moisesfernando2516]

La Liga & their salary caps are destroying the league.

[@nickcorneilson5172]

I know it took a lot for y’all not to go deep into the drink vs. eat soup debate😂😂 👏👏

[@nharikrishna7818]

Great one