Why BJJ White Belts Quit Training

[@ChasenHill]

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[@justincarter1217]

Almost quit early on after getting SMASHED by a wrestler but then remembered why i started in the first place, until i can tap the toughest black belts in our gym (my goal) im not quitting besides i love it way too much to stop now

[@ChasenHill]

Keep that same drive!

[@JakeNukem3D]

I quit and i'm not going back. i feel much better now than getting my ass kicked all the time.

[@ChasenHill]

I'm sorry to hear that! You might try another school with a different vibe. This can help that feeling. Good luck with everything!

[@JakeNukem3D]

@@ChasenHill The vibe was great and instructor was super chill. I just don't like people in general and im too critical of myself and i don't like to feel like a failure 24/7, which happened with BJJ.

[@DocLeon77]

I started training BJJ after I was medically retired from the Army. Previously, I had been bedridden for a little over 3 years. I decided I wanted to train when my 4 kids started. BJJ is hard when you're healthy, so I knew it would be difficult. I've been training for 4.5 years and I'm a 3 stripe blue belt out of Gracie Barra San Antonio TX. I just had a hip surgery and will not quit. I look forward to training again in 8 months. I love it🥋

[@ChasenHill]

That’s amazing! Glad you have not let life hold you back. We all find reasons to quit. Just have to fight them off!

[@ChasenHill]

Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@apocalyptotv09]

What a beast

[@jamieclarke4706]

Fuck yea bro into it

[@78logistics]

Medically retired out of the Canadian Army with an 86% disability assessment. Four stripe white with two years of training. This ain't easy and to be honest I don't care where it ends up at given I am 64. I do know I am healthier mentally and physically than I would be sitting on the couch. Thus four or five days a week I train. There is something in me that says Don't slow down. I also play ice hockey at least five days a week as a goalie and skater plus I ride motorcycles as a novice racer on the track. Screw this growing old bunk.

[@Yorkshire_Blood]

Been training for 3 weeks now. Getting absolutely smashed every session. Coming with sore body parts every day. Loving every minute of it. Thanks for the vid!

[@ChasenHill]

Glad you enjoyed and thanks for the support! Welcome to the BJJ club! Have fun and enjoy every minute 😊

[@SKRATCH1988]

I started about 3 months ago now. I feel like a different part of my body has been sore every week since I started... My fingers and wrists have been sore consistently. I've even already had to deal with my ear swelling up and getting super tender. I assume you probably will always be at least a little bit sore even if you're not injured if you are rolling two or three days a week consistently however there has to be an initial phase of weakness that you get over... I'm hoping once I reach the 6-month Mark that my body will be conditioned to the point where I only get sore if I train extra hard or overextend something.

[@ChasenHill]

The soreness will improve as you become more effective with your techniques 😊

[@ChasenHill]

@@SKRATCH1988 Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@Belbivdevoe]

@@SKRATCH1988he's working on a project for people just like you! you only have to give 10% of your income and wear his special undergarments to join the club, you will also need to remove your left pinky toe and put it on the helio Gracie alter he has at the gym. It's easy don't worry

[@MrCharles080]

41 year old white belt and I’ve been training for about 6 months. Still getting smashed by upper belts on the Regular but I’m noticing in the last month I’m submitting white belts regularly and am able to transition to attacks with higher belts more readily. Most importantly I’ve learned to stay calm and wait for opportunities to come to me. Injuries are definitely a factor for me at my age because of preexisting stuff like arthritic hands and hips. Training 3 times a week leaves me very sore throughout the week but training less I don’t feel like I get the mat time to develop. Overall I can’t imagine quitting Jiu Jitsu the overall growth that comes along from being in a great Jiu Jitsu gym has been great for me and my 15 year old son. OSS

[@ChasenHill]

Fantastic! Glade, you are starting to see progress! Jiu-Jitsu is an excellent tool for self-improvement. I’m working on a project to help students stay on the mat longer. If you are open to chatting about your experience and helping, email me at [e-mail]!

[@gavinmickwee8853]

Been training little over a year, White belt. I don't get submitted much by white or blue belts. I don't usually tap blue belts usually stale mate, and I'm happy with that for the time I have in. I train at most 3 times a week. I'm 40 and most students are half my age.

[@dustinsegers4534]

I appreciate this video and your channel. I have done martial arts my entire life, I am a black belt in an MMA type of style, have sparred full-contact as a sparring partner to help prepare boxers and kickboxers for a sanctioned bout, and I have a level 6 in Israeli Krav Maga (i.e., no McDojo here bro!). I write all of that to simply say, I have some significant martial arts experience. I've been doing BJJ almost exclusively over the last year and I have some thoughts on why white belts quit so much: 1. As a trained teacher, I've noticed that most BJJ programs have no clear curriculum. For instance, for both of my black belts, at each level, not only did I have to be able to execute certain moves under different conditions and situations (both full-contact sparring and demonstration) but I knew what the expectations were. With BJJ, it is not nearly as clear and it leaves students (esp. those with no martial arts experience) clueless as to what they are supposed to be learning, doing, and focusing on in their practice time. My suggestion: have a clear written curriculum with objective, attainable goals in said curriculum. 2. Injuries can accumulate rapidly, especially for people over 40, and it takes much longer to recover from hard training and said injuries. Most of us have to go to work the next day, and we simply can't go to work with busted up shoulders, painful elbows that were wrenched on the night before, and we want to be able to do other physical things without being in pain all of the time. If you have a history of previous injuries (like me), you always have to be careful to get good training partners when rolling or a spazzy white belt can mess you up real quicklike. My suggestion: coaches need to pair up students accordingly to minimize injuries. 3. The time commitment is just more than most modern Americans can bear, especially if they have children, family, church, and work responsibilities (etc.). No other martial art out there expects you to try to get in at least 3 days per week of 1.5 hours long classes for the busy adult while also pretty much requiring that you progress at a snail's pace insofar as rank is concerned. I've never seen anything like this elsewhere in the martial arts community. If a fit guy is 40 years old, has 3 school-aged kids at home/family responsibilities, and is a working professional, yet gets smashed 3 days per week in every class by 25-year-olds that can bench press 250+#, and he leaves each time wondering why he showed up to class after 1 year of putting in 3 days a week, and he's sore all the time and his joints hurt, can you blame the dude for quitting? My suggestion: See #'s 1 & 2 above. 4. BJJ is often too expensive. In my area, most quality, non-McDojo schools are charging @ $100 a month for decent Krav or MMA types of classes, and in most of those programs, you can attend as much as you want. However, some BJJ schools in my area want $150 for only 2, 1-hour classes per week. That's just too much $ for a busy adult with kids, groceries, a budget, etc. I'm thankful that my school is affordable and still has quality instruction. My suggestion: See #'s 1&2 above (this will increase attendance, lower attrition, and create more life-long quality students). 5. Finally, as you noted, BJJ is just hard and the wife and kids are more important. As I sit and type this, my ribcage is a little sore. I'm getting older (46), and I can't afford to accumulate any further injuries as I already have plenty to contend with from my teens and twenties doing hard training. As a result, I wear all the necessary protective gear (including headgear), I am careful who I roll with, and avoid spazzy, super-strong people that want to sling you around on the mat. Basically, roll mostly with colored belts. Like most people, I have to go get up the next day and go work a professional job, I have to be able to mow the yard on Saturday, I have to be able to play with my kids, have to be able to spend time with family/wife and don't want to always carry around a 5-6/10 level of pain (or more) and I don't want to tear up my stomach and kidneys after having to consistently pop 2-3 pills of Ibuprofen after every class. In two words: train smart and sometimes you need to avoid rolling or do a light "flow roll" with a great partner or your instructor/s. Again, suggestions #'s 1&2 above. But for the guy who doesn't know this or have any of that experience, he just won't last in most BJJ schools. This is why so many people quit at the white belt (and blue belt) level. If the belt progression is so slow, they feel like a retard after every class or during class, AND they are getting smashed and accumulating injuries on top of that and they stay in pain all of the time, they will inevitably quit.

[@ChasenHill]

All good points!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@techtidbits7594]

This is the best post I've seen on the subject. All the points hit the nail on the head.

[@benjamindelfs2718]

I agree. Most schools don’t have a visible curriculum and you don’t know how to progress and learn. I also agree that an instructor shouldn’t put you with someone who is smashing and hurting you. This is why the Gracie schools make make you do a lot of classes that involve defence work first. I like rolling, but I keep getting paired up with blue and purple belts with an agenda to hurt me. I can’t learn that way, and there’s not enough fresh white belts to work with so i will undoubtably have to leave soon as injuries are piling up and I’m actually going backwards now and my confidence is completely finished. I’m attending for the fitness and social aspect.

[@dustinsegers4534]

@@benjamindelfs2718If you’re constantly getting smashed, injured, and aren’t making progress, I would leave that “shark-tank” school and find another one where you can be developed.

[@DustyGetsReal]

I'm a white belt. Started training in July so I've only been training for a couple months. I've even got my first injury, line fracture to my ribs. Ribs have healed enough and I went to class today.

[@ChasenHill]

Awesome! Just stay at it. Little things will always pop up. Random question, I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon!

[@TheDondajonhon46]

I have been a white belt for 3 years now, I haven't been training as much as I should be. For me it's mental, I beat myself up mentally after class and my ego keeps me from coming back consistently. That's something I need to work on. I do not intend on giving up. It's fun and I've learned a lot of useful things.

[@Italiangentleman2394]

Training almost 5 years 3 stripe blue belts never thought about quitting but have had some rough days but I love it

[@tinkywinky3680]

Love the info Chasen! Greatly appreciate all your videos. I'm a 46yr old, 1.5yr white belt, reserve police officer and full time security officer, I need Jiujitsu to help me in my jobs as well as having an outlet to de-stress, exercise and be a part of a community. I hope to do it as long as I am physically able to.

[@ChasenHill]

Thanks for the kind words and support! Focus on training smart and with helpful training partners, and you should be on the mat a good while!

[@808BJJ_Black_Belt]

100% true!! I’ve seen 100s of people QUIT and heard every excuses 👎🏻 I’m going on 13 years BJJ training 🔥& im not stopping!!!!

[@ChasenHill]

Awesome mindset! Thanks for checking out the video!

[@bobbydabutcha]

Routine, boredom, slow progression etc. Warm ups, class. Main lesson, an alternative entry, the escape/counter. Drill. Bow out, scatter around the mats, bump fists, roll. Rinse, repeat. I love BJJ, but I can see why white belts quit or any belt for that matter. I haven't trained since the Covid-19 pandemic started but have always learned/studied/drills at home with a grappling dummy.

[@tomanderson848]

It sure seems like "calculus or rocket science" sometimes as a 2 year, 2 stripe, 65 year old white belt. I am jumping from vid to vid. Lots of good stuff Chasen. That you. Next vid, "White Belt Struggling"

[@ChasenHill]

Thank you sir! I hope you found some helpful information! Good luck on your training journey!

[@Random8181]

I quit at the start of this year. After two years of training I was still only a three stripe white belt. I've seen person after person come in and surpassed me. Eventually I was just to embarrass and ashamed of myself to go anymore. Can't imagine I'll ever go back if I did I'll avoid getting to know the people there.

[@ChasenHill]

I understand your fear! Most BJJ academy’s are great. There is a good chance they will welcome you back with open arms.

[@BobBob-il2ku]

3 years consistently training(3 days a week) and I’m a 3 stripe white belt. I catch blues some times who cares better to be a good white belt than a shitty blue belt. ( also not sure about your instructor but mine will sometimes promote to blue from 3 stripe or even 2 stripe)

[@ChasenHill]

Keep the good training up!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@ChasenHill]

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[@derekross6649]

Liked and subscribed. I'm a new white belt No Gi for about 2 months. Love it.

[@ChasenHill]

Welcome aboard!

[@oskaipwn]

I tried BJJ maybe 10 years ago when I was in my late 20s. I only went a few times, ended up getting hurt and thought it wasn't for me. I think back to what would have happened if I didn't get hurt but this video definitely gives me a new perspective. Back then I would have never stuck with it. I ended up having two kids and money ended up being pretty tight for awhile. Now I'm 38, I've been training 2 months and I'm in love. Even though I'm older my life is way more solid. My kids are 8 and 10, money isn't an issue. And my job is way easier with a schedule that's way better suited to training. My body may be 10 years older but I'm probably been in the best position I've ever been in to train. Thanks for opening my eyes to a different perspective.

[@ChasenHill]

Happy I was able to help! Please keep me updated on your journey!

[@combatzero3765]

Hello! I'm a no belt, my first session will be this Saturday. I'm 54 years old and retiring from boxing and am looking for something to replace it. I'm watching your video and others like it to learn more about what happens that lead to people walking away from BJJ so I can hopefully avoid them.

[@shiftylad9938]

How did it go one year later?

[@cjanquart]

If you're still rolling, great! If not I know (I'm 52) how you feel.

[@johnmedige1612]

I'm a one strip white belt...as i am ann older man...and had kids before I started..and I totally agree with everything you're saying...been training for 7 months now...but my life is way more stable financially and maturity wise then I was in my 20s and 30s...as I do get my butt kicked every night...I do tend to look at my new network of friends ive met and the healthy side of training that out weighs the other stuff thus far..great post! Ty for your insight

[@ChasenHill]

That's great you started training at this time of your life! Jiu-Jitsu will build life long friendships!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@JackedBlack88]

White belt here. Going on a month and a week. Thanks for the informative video. Absolutely getting my ass handed to me 😆. Tbh I wanted to quit tonight on my walk home but I was just super gassed. The conditioning for BJJ is brutal but rewarding. The only thing really hurting so far is my ego 🤣

[@ChasenHill]

Thanks for sharing! Yes, Jiu-Jitsu is highly challenging, but the benefits are tremendous. Just keep plugging along! You've got it! A bit random, but I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon!

[@supperbud1983]

3 year white belt, and I’ve thought about quitting a lot lately. Belt promotions every two years, no feedback from instructor, no curriculum to work on outside the gym, fewer training partners due to face diapers, cost, bad training partners, and its more like 13-15 years from what I’m seeing at my gym to make it to black. All that being said I keep pushing through because I know I’m still a white belt and bjj has taught me it takes practice inside and out of the gym in every aspect of life to level up. Thanks for the videos. 🤙

[@ChasenHill]

Sorry to hear about your struggles. Definitely tough with the pandemic going on to train. Sounds like you might need to look into a new gym if you aren't having your needs meet. You are hiring the school for a service. You can fire the school at anytime and move on. Don't wast your hard earned money on a product you aren't happy with.

[@supperbud1983]

I live in a rural area so there’s not much to choose from. Like you said, it’s a life style and I love it.

[@tinkywinky3680]

Why would they give promotions only every 2 years. People like to see their progress and those that are dedicated and are putting in the time, deserve to be recognized so they can achieve their goals.

[@ChasenHill]

@@supperbud1983 Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@justinprince46]

I'm fairly new to BJJ and I've only been training a few months, but haven't thought about quitting once! I absolutely love it and I'm glad I finally joined after being pushed to by some of my friends from the military. My only issue right now is finding mat time. I'm currently finishing up nursing school so between class, clinicals, lab time, and homework I'm barely able to make it once a week, sometimes twice if I'm lucky. I'm hoping once school is done I can go more often, but right now I just get in the time when I can. Love the videos by the way!

[@ChasenHill]

Thank you for the kind words and support. I completely understand. Most of the time while I was a lower belt I was completing college as well. Just build training as a priority after you finish school. Life could get much more chaotic once your career starts.

[@ChasenHill]

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[@dodgesportsman772]

I'm 53 and just started in BJJ, two months and I just got my first stripe. I've studied in Kempo for 47 years straight and I never knew how bad I was on the ground. I've been in many fights but never hit the ground thank God. If I did I would of been killed. I'm looking forward to learning more over the years. I will never stop!

[@bobbydabutcha]

I've quit for about two years total, mid 2019 and then all of 2020 until mid 2021. The first year due to work and alcohol (I've quit since) , the second time due to the Pandemic. Every time I came back, I not only started right back where I left off, but I also progressed much quicker and I was much more confident in my Jiu Jitsu. Mostly because we had a brand new batch of white belts every time lol. I wear a brand new belt to class so they think I'm new just like them lol. I am actually the very last white belt of the 2018 batch that started that year. Out of the 100 or so people that I have met that year are no longer training. Only two earned their blue belts. Even my brother in law that started with me on the exact same day quit!

[@swampass1128]

started at 38...6 months in, found out we were prego and I quit. Started back at 43 and have both of my kids in now. am 47 Blubelt. As a father I wanted to lead from the front...but you are exactly right about the quitting due to life changes...

[@ChasenHill]

Thanks for checking out the video and sharing that information! That's amazing you've been able to start back training in your 40's! I would be curious to hear more about your journey so far in Jiu-Jitsu and maybe offer some advice. If you are open to chatting, please email me at [e-mail] 😀

[@bencll]

New blue belt, little over a year and a half, hardest thing I've ever done but massively rewarding !

[@ChasenHill]

Congrats on the new blue belt! That's awesome! I would be curious to hear more about your journey so far in Jiu-Jitsu and maybe offer some advice. If you are open to chatting, please email me at [e-mail] 😀

[@Bradclone34]

I recently started BJJ in Gracie Barra College Station 3 weeks ago. The only I can do is embrace the suck and keep my expectations low while having fun. I believe BJJ is a marathon, not a sprint. I don't want to quit either so I will dedicate this sport as much as possible. I also subbed your channel. Thank you for the advice, Professor Chasen.

[@ChasenHill]

Awesome! Thanks for supporting and the kind words! A bit random, but I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon!

[@AbsoluteADCC]

I tried Jiu Jitsu for the first time in 2013 and absolutely loved it. However, I got a little injury that took me off the mats for more than a month and I ended up quitting. Came back in the beginning of 2020, then pandemic happened and I rejoined again in October 2020 and going strong since then. I really trying not to quit now just thinking where I could be if I stuck around for 8 years. There are 2 guys at my gym who started together. One of them took a pause and when he came back the other guy was a purple belt soon promoted to brown. Just makes me realize that in as it relates to our entire life, 10-12 years is not that much to invest, but the rewards can be reaped throughout the lifetime.

[@ChasenHill]

Very well said. A lot of people do not even work the same job for 10-12 years, let a lone doing an activity where grown humans are trying to strangle you daily! Keep training!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@TheCaringstar1]

it's scary but what u said were absolutely true. thanks prof! im second degree blue belt and a mum of 2 young kids. but im here to stay. my kids started training when they turned 3.5 years old

[@ChasenHill]

Awsome! I wish you the best of luck!

[@momentum8640]

I'm 55 and I've been training for about 2 to 3 months now. It can be very overwhelming at times. There's so much to learn. I'm enjoying it so far though. It's really hard.

[@adrianluna9541]

Hard? Try Judo when you have no idea how to fall and you’re getting thrown with Kata Guruma on your third week of practice. The sad part is, people believe you have to train hard. They think every session has to be 100%. This is not the right way to train. People need to learn to go at 50% when they roll. It’s a time to experiment, try new positions, and take care of one another. There is a time for 100% but it doesn’t have to be every practice.

[@IowaRonin]

No curriculum (lack of direction). Most gyms focus on sport rather than self-defense. Cost. Time. The other personalities at that gym. The physical wear and tear.

[@ChasenHill]

100% agree!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@cjanquart]

Bingo. Those points and the fact that getting smashed, having to take time off for injuries (at 52) and feeling that other than sweating on someone I'm unable to do anything is incredibly frustrating.

[@TheSqueegeeman]

Started about a month and half ago after putting it off for many years (currently 34), due to a shoulder injury. Loved it and now my shoulder injury came back up. May have to take a year off to get surgery and recover, but plan to come back. I want my son to be able to watch and out of curiosity want to start when he is old enough.

[@ChasenHill]

Happy you are enjoying training. Yes, get your shoulder taken care of. However, there are plenty of ways to train while injured, even spar. Having kids learn Jiu-Jitsu is amazing. I teach them weekly and it's a blast! A bit random, but I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon! Happy training!

[@floridamanoutdoors482]

White belt just started. Great video.

[@davidclark4927]

Been training for 5-6mo the now! I have definitely taken my lumps and have embraced the suck! Things are starting to slow down and I am beginning to enjoy the experience and feeling! Have my first tournament in August!

[@theman2017inc]

Good Evening from London: UK I am a white belt and only doing BJJ since end of September this year

[@ChasenHill]

Great! Welcome to this wonderful art! Random question, I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@iancampbell5493]

I truly believe that commitment to skateboarding for 12+ years (started when I was 12, I’m 26 now) undoubtably helped condition me to the idea of long-term commitment, breaking the body down, and passion for an incredibly physically demanding activity. I am NO “master” in skateboarding, I accepted my plateau when I was around 18, but I’m not half-bad, and I still try and squeeze a session in if time permits. The same can be said with my training. I don’t expect to be the next high-level, world champion grappler; but I know this will be a long road of incremental progression that will compound over years. I could go on for a few paragraphs likening the two, but the most important take-away is the sense of community. Nobody at the skatepark (in all my experience) gives a shit about race, orientation, religion, etc. if you’re there and you’re on a board (and you’re not a fucking asshole haha), you will have respect and admiration of your peers. Same can be said for the gym. I’m a lifer, I love this shit. 👊🏾

[@ChasenHill]

Thank you for sharing! Wish you all the best in your training!

[@ChasenHill]

Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@lobo_solo214]

I just started BJJ on 2/20 and it's humbling and addicting.

[@christopherstephens8885]

Love the videos I am a white belt first stripe and also train hapkido I originally did bjj to get better at flexibility as it has alot of similar things in hapkido then started to like it more as I did but it is a very difficult sport my grading was like hours lol 😆

[@ChasenHill]

Welcome to the Jiu-Jitsu family! Thanks for the kind words and support!

[@JSMinstantcoaching]

I believe as I said before, the reason number 1 is the lack of the proper environment, with the proper leadership, with the proper language. I don't think the difficulty plays the number one role, I think having the proper WHY with the proper environment enable a lot of resilience. By the way new sub :-)

[@ChasenHill]

Thank you for the kind words and support. Yes, a lot of the things you suggested are correct and have been implemented/improved at our academy. Guiding new students is extremely important.

[@eddiesid1149]

great video. white belt started this jan 2023

[@ChasenHill]

Welcome to this crazy world!

[@cjmarsh321]

Yea Im white belt. Got hurt with a broken leg after a little over a year of training. Gained almost 80 pounds when I was incapacitated. Moved across Country when I went back to work and then had a kid. Just came back a month or two ago in a completely different scenario than before my injury over two years later. But I just decided I wanted it and there was no way to do it other than to just do it.

[@viktoswarclips2255]

I’m new to the sport but have been second guessing on continuing the journey.. I have had a few instances happen and the couch get on to me and is very discouraging. I either go to hard or not hard at all on smaller teammates. We learned some of spider guard the other day and I attempted to break the grip, I am about 210 pounds and was going with someone about 150 as I postured up the teammate still had his grips in so he was lifted about 3 inches off the ground when I broke the grip he hit the floor with some force I immediately stopped and apologized to my training partner but the instructor told me “ no uhuh we are not going to do that “ and told me to stop doing the drill and head to the back of the line.. the next round I was paired with somone that is way bigger then me at about 255 and he rag dolled me and now I have severe chest pain.. it’s highly discouraging because I feel like I was intentionally hurt for making a honest mistake.

[@ChasenHill]

Hello, my friend! I 100% see how you could feel discouraged. The journey is full of highs and lows. It takes time and practice to find the right level of resistance to provide for your training partners. As a smaller practitioner (160lbs), most of my training time has been with students larger than me. Speaking from an instructor's standpoint, controlling the training is a must. Protecting students is/should be a top priority. I would recommend speaking with your instructor one-on-one if you haven't already. Express how the scenario impacted you and ask what you should do in the future. Just know these situations happen and are normal. The best course of action is to learn and improve. Every student experiences these training lows. Keep your head up and power through. I hope this helps you! Please reach out via email [e-mail] if you would like to speak more in-depth 😄

[@viktoswarclips2255]

Thank you I really do appreciate it

[@jw4111]

Good video! Appreciate your perspective: considering a comeback after a 2.5 year absence after getting blue belt. Instructor was friendly at first but then kind of ignored me doing other things; talking to other people. Walked away feeling he didn’t care if I came back at all. Any thoughts are appreciated!

[@shadymilkman443]

I've never quit, but I've only been going for 4 months. I dread the day I ever feel like quitting. Seems impossible right now

[@ChasenHill]

It will happen! Everyone who makes it to black belt plays with the idea at one time. Just stay strong!

[@shadymilkman443]

@@ChasenHill I go 5 times a week and I've been begging my professor to let me do 2 a days. But he doesn't let you until your 4th stripe 💔

[@ChasenHill]

Yeah that’s probably wise. Makes sure you don’t burn out/injury your self.

[@gymlaxbro]

Same!! So far this has been life changing

[@ChasenHill]

That's great!

[@DeepsGnome]

The roughly 5,000 bjj blackbelts you mention are only ibjjf registered black belts, which mostly only registered with ibjjf to compete. The current number of non-competitive blackbelts is estimated to be over 100,000 world wide. Most black belts don't compete as they tend to be over 40 by the time they get their black belts.

[@sandman5807]

American Top Team in D'iberville, Ms is my academy. I have been training for 1 year 10 months and I am a 4 stripe white belt.

[@ChasenHill]

Thanks for checking the video out! Enjoy the journey!

[@ChasenHill]

Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@jroberts7387]

Been training for a year and a half. Just got my blue belt last week. First class after getting promoted, I definitely got my blue belt initiation lol

[@kyle52245]

Hey Chasen, just started watching today, new blue belt and curious to see the video you reference at 2:50, I didn't see a link pop up..... Thank you for sharing!

[@marcuss6737]

Been training a year and 3 months. Two stripe white belt. Train 4 days a week Have this inner fear of quitting because my older brother (who showed me bjj) did after getting GF. My team is like my family, could never imagine just leaving. I’m someone who really latches onto community. Love your videos brother!! Keep posting this will blow up

[@ChasenHill]

Thank you for the kind words and sharing! Wish you well in your jiu-jitsu career!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@jedsanford7879]

yeah I will tell you. I think a lot of black belts haven't been a white belt for too long to remember. We drilled back takes and back escapes today. Then we did positional sparring starting from a back take position. One guys goal is to submit, one is to escape. All that talk about trapping the arm? maintaining position? Out the window. 30 minutes of jacked white belts trying to just brute force tear my head off my shoulders. Now the 2 month long sore throat I have had from some guy aggressively framing on my esophagus is re-injured. At this point, I love BJJ, but I would not recommend it to anyone else. White belts are the most dangerous things in the gym and we set them on other white belts who are the least prepared to mitigate that.

[@DavidvsGoliathBJJ]

Just saw you on fb and saw you had a channel. Keep up the great content!

[@ChasenHill]

Thank you for the kind words and support!

[@phx4closureman]

*GREAT VIDEO*

[@ChasenHill]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for checking it out!

[@EmilBlueMan]

Yes… I quit while being a white belt about 3 years ago, because of my social anxiety, and also felt I was not learning enough. I want to try martial arts again but now gyms and dojo’s are still shut down.

[@ChasenHill]

I hope you can start training again soon! Hang in there!

[@EmilBlueMan]

@@ChasenHill Yes, thank you. I can’t wait till I could give it another try! The gyms and dojo’s should open up next month, so I’ve been mentally preparing myself staying positive about everything. You got a lot of great videos, so thank you for the advice you give.

[@ChasenHill]

Thanks for your support! I have a lot of other cool videos and projects in the works. I have an email list with all the updates if you are interested 😊 mailchi.mp/98fb67465f98/n9nd5ytku5

[@ChasenHill]

@@EmilBlueMan Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@blackjetski555]

It's simply not for everyone. I gave it a go but quit after four sessions. Though I'm probably not the best person to judge BJJ as a martial art, as I've only ever done sword bokken training.

[@ChasenHill]

BJJ does not have sword bokken training. I hope you can train grappling one day 😀

[@blackjetski555]

​@@ChasenHill I appreciate the encouragement, though it might a challenging transition to go from a daily workout of flying overhead cuts off a bench to triangle chokes ;). Though I never rule anything out, and it's always interesting watching vids about a variety of martial arts. Very nice work!

[@derspabvogel721]

Couple days due to little injuries that are 99% of the time acquired from pushing to hard in my home gym.

[@ChasenHill]

Just take the breaks when needed!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@loza-brah5456]

Great video! 4 classes in, I’m loving it 👌🏻

[@ChasenHill]

Glad you enjoy it! Good luck in your training!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@TruthvsLies5050]

Injuries are why I am gonna quit, had my elbow blown 3rd day from a purple belt who didn’t hear my taps, Professor said because I tried standing up, I felt she cranked too hard just because she is used to competing, I was the rag doll. Been 6 weeks and still not 100 percent. I still trained lightly though it, but 2 weeks later just from a drilling a leg head lock over and over with max force since we could not get it right, I obtained TMJ from it. The main reason is though because at the time my elbow got blown, they didn’t even ask if I was ok or anything, two weeks later I confront her why she didn’t release Professor was there, instead she became defensive and loud saying coach was there. I quit going after my TMJ injury, but reached out to my professor about why I was out, and his own reply was that is jujutsu, so I feel the place is uncaring about their students.

[@ChasenHill]

I'm sorry to hear that. I would agree if this was your experience, I would look for a new place to train. Random question, I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon!

[@TruthvsLies5050]

@@ChasenHill ok thanks, I might at some point, i do not like putting people on blast like that, but if I leave, then probably because it is only the truth

[@benjamindelfs2718]

I hope you wrote that as a google review and named and shamed them. I’d of went to a different school after though.

[@TruthvsLies5050]

@@benjamindelfs2718 I did sir! Carlson Gracie Albuquerque NM East Side!

[@metaphysicalphilosopher2356]

What are the chances that someone never makes it past white belt (or more precisely a white belt skill level) even after five to ten years of consistent, dedicated practice where they are showing up 3 times a week and giving every class their best effort? Does this happen very often that someone just does not have the nebulous x factor to succeed in Bjj even if they have the mental fortitude and discipline to keep going? For example, even after five years of dedicated effort they are never able to pass guard or score a submission on their teammates? I’ve been having these thoughts about a month into my white belt journey at a pretty competitive gym.

[@ChasenHill]

Thanks for checking out the video and leaving a thoughtful question. In my personal experience of coaching for close to 13 years not, I've never seen a student that you describe not surpass the skill level of white belt. I've had students take over 5 years to achieve blue belt due to their inconsistent training schedule. Right now, you are determining your progress very black and white and trying to rush to the top of the mountain too quickly (scoring points or more skilled training partners, pass guard, etc). Those are complicated tasks to accomplish for any student, let a lone a newer student. Start with a much easier task, like making it to the end of a round, limiting the number of taps by working on surviving and defense. Offense comes once you have increased defensive skills. I hope this helps. You've got this and welcome to the world of Jiu-Jitsu!

[@blockaderunner]

I guess that the worst thing for me as a baby white is having my way with most whites but getting not much progress- not even close - with purples.

[@BadGenFit]

Hey, good video, im white belt, have been training for a year now, not gonna quit i love this. Getting my ass kicked every week by more experienced guys but its part of the process right. How long u would say it takes to get blue belt?, i would say that im quite good white belt:).

[@TheTraubenstein]

I see that cost is never addressed. BJJ is expensive!

[@ZOIMIBiIE]

If jujutsu made it to the Olympics, could you imagine the system exploit olympians getting absolutely fucking FOLDED UP on the worlds stage? Like breakdancer lady or the woman’s half pipe Winter Olympics one

[@robertpena4256]

Yes I have . Illness made training impossible for a while .

[@ChasenHill]

Yeah that does make it hard!

[@ChasenHill]

Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@mikebarnes1239]

After 4 months of training the other seven people I started with that day don’t train anymore

[@seekdiscomfort1942]

I’ve been training for 11 months so far. People in my gym say I’m close to blue belt but I feel like I need another year at white at least

[@lm10_dxz91]

So did you get that blue belt?

[@seekdiscomfort1942]

@@lm10_dxz91 yeah I got it about 15 months in. Just hit the one year mark as a blue belt

[@zakpilipchuk5709]

I just started my 2nd week, (4th class today) I’ve been an athlete my whole life but I have 0 prior grappling experience, I feel like I can go 4x a week and be fine physically, just don’t want to burn myself out as I’ve seen happens to a lot of beginners. Also I’m 21 and still very active, thoughts on how often I could train?

[@ChasenHill]

Burn out is something to be aware off. However, get it in why you can! You are young and your body can handle it. The older you get, your responsibility increase and your body doesn't recover as well. 3 to 4 times a week would be awesome!

[@zakpilipchuk5709]

@@ChasenHill Awesome thank you man! 3 weeks down tomorrow and 12 classes in, every class just leaves me wanting to learn more, thanks for the reply!

[@ChasenHill]

No problem! Thank you for reaching out. Good luck in your journey, and let me know if you need anything!

[@ChasenHill]

@@zakpilipchuk5709 Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@donaldstewart8494]

Are you exit interviewing white belts who quit ? Just wondering how you collected the info and created this list.

[@ChasenHill]

I've been running an academy for 10 years. Usually, I'm the person the student talks to about stopping their membership. 99% of the time, they openly share the information. After completing their break or seeing them around town, I'll talk with them about training. I also have had conversations with other school owners and instructors about their students as well 🙂

[@shinka6670]

52 yrs old. 3rd degree black. If you need to quit because of injuries you are either training wrong or your gym is bad. Only 2 reasons you should be getting injured repeatedly.

[@ChasenHill]

Every much agreed 😊

[@Jusgoaway]

Well I have a tear in my shoulder-so, I'm out for a few😞

[@ChasenHill]

That's frustrating! I wish you a speedy recovery! Jiu-Jitsu isn't going anywhere!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@bigdsouthafrican5742]

Been a no line white belt for 3years i quit today

[@ChasenHill]

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you can return to training someday!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@demigodbjj5976]

White belt, been training for 8 months. Been on and off because of covid.

[@ChasenHill]

You will be back soon hopefully!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@demigodbjj5976]

Yes sure I'll pop you a mail

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

Training 21 years. Brown belt.

[@ChasenHill]

Awesome! Future black belt!

[@coletanner5193]

it really just depends on who you are training with and if it's fun..if it's not fun, why bother...there's no money in this..that's for sure..you want money, you gotta start boxing, a life of headaches. How many people quit because they keep breaking their ankles? BJJ sparring partners need good hygiene to..if someone stinks..U don't need the flu or a bacterial rash..would rather offend them than risk either..if owner says you are being rude..leave .walk..not worth it.

[@ChasenHill]

Yes, making sure the activity is fun is important. Random, question! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@coletanner5193]

@@ChasenHill did you want to give me a pep talk hang in there..you'll get your brown belt if you really want it ( I don't)..You seem like a cool guy but it really wouldn't benefit me to call and talk to you and would probably just disappoint me if you wanting me to buy something since I maybe in the BJJ demographic. How many MLM people come to these training centers/dojos/trading gyms is disappointing. What I do like seeing is owners/ black belts trying to bilk their students for every dine they can then as soon as some younger better guy opens up his place in the same town they drop their rates and turn into Mr Nice guy..I like that😊

[@ChasenHill]

Hahah man, I have no idea what you are talking about/don’t care. I wish you the best of luck in your training journey and hope you find what you are looking for in life. There is your pep talk 😊

[@agauerm]

I think one of the main reasons is that the way it is taught is really bad. The white belt comes to his first class and basically he will watch the instructor performing a move in some volunteer (usually a higher belt) and then will ask everyone to practice that. After some time trying to practice only one or two moves that you have never seen before in your life, you are put expected to roll with higher belts which are just gonna play with you like a ragdoll, and you have absolutely no idea of what to do and what´s going on. This method of teaching is very inefficient and makes majority of people to just give up. There is no much care given individually and no care to put similar belts to roll among themselves and practice only what they know, or perhaps not even roll at all, just keep practicing all the basic moves first before even considering putting a white belt to roll with another white belt, not to mention higher belts. I think that a private approach to beginners would be the best way, until you get a couple of stripes in your white belt, you should do those small group/white belt only classes where everyone is at the same level and trying to master all the basic things too. It is extremely unreasonable to put a white belt to roll even with a blue belt, what is the point? It is not even fun.

[@krg8774]

White belt 3rd Stripe still enjoying

[@rollinOnCode]

quit cause injuries, injury management, high burnout- toughness, maybe money, other priorities, Spouses (especially women). Also there maybe a lack of guidance, goal focus, and not sure what you are doing and most importantly- WHY.

[@ChasenHill]

This is why you quit? Or you just suggesting why students quit?

[@rollinOnCode]

@@ChasenHill why people quit and why they leave or even take a break. but yeah you definitely lay out a good majority. another key aspect which priit mihkelson cover is the lack of guidance for new beginners- many gyms just recklessly throw them to the wolves and tell them to "survive". but if you give them a clear framework which explains why they lose and how to survive and train progressive resistance then it becomes tolerable and fun

[@ChasenHill]

@@rollinOnCode Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@SilverbackGeurrilla]

I’m a blue belt, started at age 49 and the only reason I took a “break” is because of the Covid BS.😡

[@ChasenHill]

I’m sorry to hear that! I hope you can get back to training soon!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@SilverbackGeurrilla]

@@ChasenHill message sent!

[@geaves762]

Lol, I waited until my 4 kids graduated HS before starting!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@geaves762]

@@ChasenHill done

[@AWood28]

Been going 24 months and seen 50 plus guys come and go.

[@ChasenHill]

Keep going and stay on the path! Result are going to happen!

[@ChasenHill]

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[@donaldstewart8494]

Not sure how you gathered your info. ? Did you exit interview every white belt student who left. I think a portion of you students who left may have gone to other schools. You may want to include the instructor/ black belt was the problem.

[@ChasenHill]

That wouldn't be the student quitting, just changing school. I talked about students stopping training altogether, not just at my school.

[@drewnielson6472]

White belt been training for 5 yrs

[@ChasenHill]

Blue belt is around the corner!

[@MrJonathanhidalgo365]

Damn that’s super long for white! How come?!

[@drewnielson6472]

@@MrJonathanhidalgo365 honestly. I. Have train on and off simply with my job and life it's hard to keep up with bjj

[@ChasenHill]

Hey, there! I'm working on a project to better help students like yourself. I'm currently collecting helpful information by speaking with students. Would you be open to speaking with me? If so, please shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I hope we can speak soon.

[@ChasenHill]

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[@tomhoedt6467]

Dude you kinda look like the lead singer of Yellow Card I know I’m getting off topic but I had to throw it out there

[@justineagan2238]

How many hours on the mats does it take for each belt, on average? Also, how many classes per week and open mats do you recommend? So, like 5 classes and 3 open mats?

[@ChasenHill]

Honestly, that's a tricky question. Each academy/instructor gades differently. Jiu-Jitsu isn't standard like many traditional martial arts are. It's easier for me to give an estimated time via year's. White - Blue: 1-2 Years Blue - Purple: 3-5 Years Purple - Brown: 2-3 Years Brown - Black 1 -3 Years Total Estimated Mat Time = 7 - 13 Years

[@justineagan2238]

Thank you for your answer. Can you recommend thr best class to open mat ratio. So like 5 class and 3 open mats?

[@ChasenHill]

Without knowing exactly how the academy conducts its classes, I would say classes are more important in the beginning than open mats. Open mats are fun, but if you don't focus, you aren't maximizing your time. Unfortunately, you need to have enough knowledge to be able to use open mats efficiently.

[@ChasenHill]

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[@seamac7564]

Why? Because you were a SOCOM operator and you just got tapped by a 16 y/o blue belt. 3 times.

[@tiagovazkez9356]

They quit because the curriculum sucks the teaching sucks in some gyms there isnt even rolling and the subjective belt system is crap

[@CC-oy8ii]

Honestly it’s really about the money

[@HiredGunz98]

Bro 10yrs for a black belt? There are BJJ places now offering black belts in 30 days. Just find the right gym, pay their fees and they give you the belt. That's it. Then Go show it off at your kids birthday party.

[@ChasenHill]

I guess I had to do it the “old school” 🤣🤣

[@seanheisey8645]

I would say letting new white belts full roll is the number one reason they end up quitting. It leads to injuries, overtraining, getting absolutely smashed with no clue as to what to do. And that does not have to be a part of learning BJJ initially. 1 dimensional drilling with no resistance, then light resistance, then full resistance. Getting the reps in for the techniques. Learning how to act in each bad position so your not getting smashed. These fundamentals should be implemented before full rolling is allowed. This would create a much higher retention of new students.

[@gordonschroeder1]

Bump

[@thetroubleshooter7108]

I'm not even allowed to train

[@ChasenHill]

Thats sad 😭

[@ChasenHill]

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[@Kontenjaz]

Scabies.

[@Noslack412]

My class of 5 other guys are better than me so I get frustrated. Year and a half and I'm the only one who hasn't competed and don't have much time for working out. My anxiety and confidence has kept me from competing. My teacher says just look at myself how far I've gotten. I have constant arm pain and had 12 stitches in my toe already. I need my body for my job. I also trained Judo but the program was cancelled. I'm thinking of going to another school cause I actually like Judo better.

[@disneylanddadmanny3845]

I have 4 kids, 2 of them do jiujitsu, I work full time and going to school full time and still have time to take my kids train jiujitsu 4 days a week and I train 3days week. It’s all mental, people who want to quit will quit and people who don’t want to quit will not allow anything make them quit.

[@kevinbergman6830]

I quit becsuse I was an eager white belt and trained alot. 4 years of training and still a white belt. Felt pissed off and disrespected.

[@JEFFMAN90]

4 years at white belt at the same school?