Why Black and Brown Unity is a Myth

[@torynieves3537]

All Facts bro as a young black dude growing up in various parts of LA county they r so racist especially the Mexican gangs over here

[@letemknowzo]

Yeah I've heard a bit about the racial atmosphere out there. Anyone who says blacks and Latinos are one is just trying to pull the wool over our eyes if you ask me

[@radicandoenlabahia9181]

Before I even watch the vid Ima say this it all depends where you live I’m from the bay and I’m coo asf w my black folks shit that’s all I used to hang w in my years of highschool and yea la fasho different when it comes to being United but here in the bay mfs really are one same time tho I feel like people like to hang w people they are similar with whether it being culture background etc.. but this wouldn’t apply to just blacks and Mexicans it would apply to all ethnicities

[@torynieves3537]

@@letemknowzo Definitely there is no unity between us and people need to accept the real

[@torynieves3537]

@@radicandoenlabahia9181 Mexicans r generally racist no matter where u go

[@MIKExMASSACREx]

I’m from LA and Mexican hoods are literally racist af lol

[@dsgarden]

I'm half Sudanese half Egyptian, even though I am not completely black I am dark skinned yet I still get a lot of racism and islamophobia from Indians who are actually darker than me. It's really sad but true

[@letemknowzo]

White supremacy is global. And ironically, white people are not even the only ones who are white supremacists. That hateful mentality has taken root in the minds of a great many melanated people too, and Indians are a perfect example. In their country they literally categorize dark-skinned people as "untouchable". It's sad how thoroughly colonized their minds have been

[@grifyn882]

@@letemknowzo what said dsgarden has nothing to do with "white supremacy" my guy, go learn countries and people different histories, cultures, religions etc...before always talking about white supremacy i

[@sami_got_vibes]

Us muslims just have a totally different struggle tbh. If you aint emirati arab or caucasian, you can definitely expect alot of racism and definitely Islamophobia. Im bengali from BD and i myself recieve racism from indians.

[@hanzoY248]

​@@sami_got_vibesI'm Bengali as well but Hindu. It's mainly because Arabs and Emirates see themselves as true original Muslims whereas people from Pakistan BD Iran etc are Muslims through conquest. It was very interesting to me that in Arab countries people from South Asia are referred to as Hindu. I have allot of Pakistani and BD Muslim friend but Arabs see us all as Hindu its pretty strange

[@hanzoY248]

​@@letemknowzoit's crazy because alot of our Hindu gods are described as dark skin yet since colonial era many of them are literally depicted as white it's insane how deep the brainwashing goes

[@tonybablony2041]

I agree just off the title, many blacks dislike latinos, many latinos dislike blacks, but black Americans specifically, because in LATAM race isn’t very contentious like it is in the US But your premise is true, latino immigrants are VERY racist people, my parents are very subtle but still are😬

[@DWEthiopia]

I didn't know about "blancamiento". I heard about "mejorar la raza", which means improve the race, which meant in the Hispanic community, get as close to white as you can. That is why many of them would prefer to marry/date a Chad/Becky over Tyrone/Shaniqua even if Tyrone/Shaniqua are economically doing better. Being friends with blacks can get you dealt with in the Hispanic community, let alone choosing to mate with one. The anti-blackness is deep.

[@SHANNY13_96]

That's I Heard About It Shii Is Sick Asl!!!"🤦🏿‍♀️

[@chrisrios802]

i was born in mexico and left at 24 because it started getting to 'cartel'ish' lol but i never heard of this blancamiento either, i know when we say 'viva la raza' it means long live mexico and is usually said by mexican-americans, we only say it in soccer games when we are going against non-mexicans, nothing to do with whiteness, and just like asians we usually marry within our mexican community, but we do not say 'do not marry non-mexicans', just like asians we just choose to marry someone that closely reflects our community, i know in america people like to mix 'race's or ethnicitys as a fetish or just because they say they dont see color but we dont do that, alot of the stuff this guy in the video is saying is not accurate, sounds like liberal propaganda information that might be taught in college, while not everything he said is inaccurate, i would say that in mexico we didnt really talk about 'color's of human beings until i got to united states which i must say is obsessed with 'race' or color, and i dont mean this in any disrespect to anybody, just from my personal experience and my parents and siblings we did not go through that, and i know my personal experience might not reflect the generality but id say most of the claims are not practiced by the generality, maybe chicanos (mexican-americans) do that but i would say their view is slightly distorted from us mexicans from mexico

[@hectorgutierrez4914]

Not in Texas mane we ride together down here u got yo bad apples but that’s everywhere . 512 BROTHAS AND CHICANOS

[@Manny_Toure]

Black unity in itself is a myth also.

[@chrisrios802]

Hey there! I wanted to share some thoughts on your video about Black and Brown Unity being a myth. As someone who was born and raised in Mexico and lived there until I was 24, I couldn't help but notice a few inaccuracies and oversimplifications in your discussion. First off, suggesting that "many Latinos hold anti-Black sentiments" and aspire to whiteness doesn't quite capture the complexity of attitudes towards race within Latino communities. In Mexico, for instance, our rallying cry "Viva la Raza" doesn't have anything to do with aspiring to European traits but rather celebrates Mexican identity and culture. The notion of "Blanqueamiento" is indeed present in some Latin American societies, but it's not a universally accepted ideology. Moreover, painting internalized racism as a prevalent issue among both Black and non-Black individuals lacks empirical evidence and fails to acknowledge the diversity of experiences within our communities. Your portrayal of "La Raza" as promoting European traits oversimplifies our rich cultural tapestry and ignores the resilience of indigenous and Afro-Latino identities. It's crucial to recognize the historical context and social dynamics that shape attitudes towards race and identity rather than perpetuating simplified narratives. While it's essential to address racial disparities and foster solidarity among marginalized communities, it's equally important to do so with nuance and respect for diverse perspectives. Let's strive for a more inclusive dialogue that reflects the complexities of our shared experiences rather than falling into the trap of propagating stereotypes and misconceptions.

[@Chesperito_]

I think it also depends where because in New York Black and Brown people are raised together while racism exists everywhere and there always be situations that cause a racial divide its much less than in places like LA where theres less integrated schools like i said in my other comment i feel that black and brown unity is a choice and something we should aspire to and something i hope one day can fully exist like you said at the end

[@detroit023]

I’m black & use to have a Puerto Rican( Non Afro ) Mentor & have many Mexican and other Latino friends in Chicago. I think it depends somewhat on where you live but ultimately how u treat people. Many people have prejudices based on perception from media, etc… Black & Brown unity is def a possibility if we cont to pursue it despite opposition at times we may face.

[@Chill_Tanuki]

Most of the racism i see between black ppl and latinos is due to ignorance (racist immigrant parents or gangs) but i think it depends where u live i hear theres conflict in LA but here in the bay (Oakland) I've seen mexicans in black barbershops and black ppl in mexican restaurants coexisting peacefully

[@martinjameskeys]

exactly that's how I was raised, I'm from Lakeview grew up right by the bridge used to go to Oakland every weekend

[@RheemQ]

I'm so sick you people who love doing this shit of listing variables instead of the majority. You're like the mfs who think because everybody says shit taste horrible I'm gonna say this one over here taste good just to be different. You're not getting brownie points with these other groups just because you mention a fringe minority of them who are cool. I know some cool Mexicans too but that doesn't mean the rest of them like us. Stop it already!

[@Rakeemgrant]

I can speak some Spanish. I have been in the house with them and heard them say some way out shit about me sitting 2 feet away

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Say stuff like what???

[@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749]

​@@themarathoncontinues4211What you think? Probably something foul & racist if he doesn't want to say it again. I'm sorry you went through that OP. I hope you've distanced yourself from them since. And that you're around people who treat you with the respect you deserve brother 🙏🏾

[@chrisrios802]

was it in california?

[@thejamericanexperience2757]

Black unity in itself is a myth too.

[@justsomebody6898]

Everything you have said is true. I come from a blk family and a Latin family, the Latin side is super duper racist, like a lot of backward thinking going on.

[@timmistarr9800]

Im Trinidadian with a Latin last name dealt with racism and microagressions from Both Black and Hispanic folks and it all intercepts with Blackness. I live in California however in NY and Florida I'm challenged on why I don't speak Spanish. I rather find spaces where my individuality is respected 💯. Brown unity 🤝 is a fantasy. We play and live in Eurocentric ideals by Dunning-Kruger effect which I see in many Black and Brown communities and thats why we deny our own history and the truth and there's no common ground.

[@getmoney43555]

this is so real. as a mexican who grew in compton u dont really see "black and brown" mexican people are some of the most racist people ironically 🥴 i hope it wont always be that way though. we're stronger together. ❤️🔥🔥

[@kevingomez-johnson140]

Because the Mexicans started it by wanting to be white and distancing themsleves from black people 😂😂😂😂 I'm afro Dominican, So I have a lot of say so about Hispanics, And most Hispanics treat black Hispanics like utter shit, Why is it now that Afro Mexicans are now being on the census after being in Mexico for almost 600 years and probably even more, considering that they're were actual NEGROID aboriginal tribes in the americas that were classified as african?

[@TheeDionysus]

psychological colonization worked so well on my ppl they be disgusted with themselves, thinking they are NATURALLY in the incorrect stance in every situation. Thereby subtlety allowing "others" to gaslight them into thinking their incorrect and overreacting and need to just be quiet and go about their life constantly being shoved with the short end of the stick. Whilst the 1% of our ppl get to take out that unheard, silenced. frustration. Out only via mediums like movies, music, and sports. which are predominantly owned by those who are apart of the same system working around the clock to keep our ppl frustration, silenced, and unheard. this could've all been summed up with that phrase they put on lebron " shush up & dribble". Which is what every race that aint AA want u to do, let alone 80% of AA or blk ppl themselves want us to do as well just to avoid the reality of the situation we in lol.

[@chrisrios802]

i just want to know why americans are obsessed with 'race' or color which i think they mean when they use race, which human is a race, but also this seems to be a cultural problem in 'blacks/african-americans/poc' (which every term u want to use) american community, as most 'blacks' i know from other countries that migrate here dont seem to put much emphasis on and do very great in life, i would call this the victim mentality, so this is a american cultural problem, not a 'color/race' one@@lolakauffmann

[@tonybablony2041]

I like your videos, man, one day you’ll be very successful with this channel

[@JoseDaMan27_]

I for sure respect your POV on the “unity” of Browns and Blacks. Like you said, it would depend on the person tellin the story, Because im from Texas, and i was raised with just other browns and black brothers and sisters. Maybe only one white kid i noticed but thats abt it. I do feel like even in Texas, but everywhere we need to really unite. And im talking about the human nation as a whole. At the end of the day, we are all we have. We live on this earth. This is our home. But its obviously not that easy because it wouldve been done already. One step at a time. We all bleed the same shit. Lets learn and build from the past, not dwell on it.✊🏽✊🏿✊🏻

[@chrisrios802]

yes i agree, i came over from mexico at 24 to texas and i must say the mexicans from texas are more united but the mexican-americans from california are something else, los angeles is very divided like they are stuck in the old times of american history smh

[@hectorgutierrez4914]

512 reppin shout to to my chicanos and brothas and sistas

[@issavibez394]

​@@chrisrios802American system is messed up they don't teach anything everyone is lost

[@BiggieSmalls946]

This country wasnt a black/white binary since the inception of this country. U completely left out the indigenous ppl.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Because genocide was committed against them. Barely any % of the population.

[@TheeDionysus]

i wonder if natives donned, this a "country" a country, instead of just a place they been at.

[@BiggieSmalls946]

@IkDion they still occupied predominantly North America, weather they called it a "country" or not is kinda irrelevant

[@showmestatefinest5412]

We are the indigenous ppl. We have been lied to and indoctrinated to the point they got us thinking we are foreigners on our own land. Ots impossible to bring millions of us across the Atlantic Ocean on sail boats cus ships didn't exist back then cus ships have engines

[@wellwisher7778]

Unify, and Separate to your own.

[@e3k701]

There are misunderstandings and points in this video that are wrong. Latino isn't a race, there are all kinds of latinos. People of all kinds have racist people, there are no exceptions. There are many afro latinos and they have influenced latino culture to what is today. I'm Mestizo and i could tell you if you go to a quiceañera, there is a good chance you'll hear afro latino music like Romeo Santos and Lambada, and you'll for sure see afro latino inspired dances like Cumbia and Lambada. As far as the Spanish, they were not perfect, and they did colonize but their main reason was to spread Christianity. Everywhere they went whether it was Asia, Africa or the Americas, they built schools, hospitals, and Churches. The Spanish also mixed with all kinds of races and shared their last name. You claimed that Latinos (I assume Mestizos) kind of aspired to be white, (Spain of which is a diverse country) but at least when it comes to many Mexicans, it's actually the opposite! I've never been to the south or central Mexico but ive heard some people even refuse to write in Spanish!!! Many people deny having any white background and some people use it as an insult or to tease. I believe a lot of Spanish hate comes from ignorance, one main reason is that the written Mayan language was destroyed, which people think was a racist act. The problem with that assumption is that there are dozens of Romance Languages not just Spanish, Italian, Romanian, French and Portuguese. All of the rest of the people who didn't didn't speak the prominent languages had their languages oppressed, again they are the same people with a Roman background so it was already a problem and had nothing to do with race. People also believe it was "White vs Indigenous" or "Spanish vs Native American" but the biggest tribes actually oppressed smaller tribes so a lot of tribes actually sided with the Spanish. I see some people talk about Dominicans not liking to be called black, and i can't speak for them, but I used to listen to a lot of 90s rap, but after i started to listen to more latino music which was heavily about love, the rap genre and many (not all) messages it said didn't rub right. So I believe it is a culture thing for them and not race, they know they're black. If you're from the States and you feel like Mestizo people treat you badly just know that Mexico is statistically the most dangerous country and it shows in the culture which is sad!!! Many mestizo people are aggressive with me as well! If anyone spent the time to read my comment I hope they learned something and see the perspective from a Latino and Mestizo. Ethnicity, Nationality and Race are classifications, and not a collective hivemind. Most importantly we are all made in the image of God and the gospel is for everyone!!! God bless Edit: Also for many Romance Languages, they have Arabic influence. So even the languages aren't necessarily white languages. As far as "Blancamiento", my family came to this country homeless just a generation ago, so we are still connected with our Mexican roots and I never have heard of this concept ever, so thankfully It can't be very popular. I grew up in black and mestizo neighborhoods and never heard anybody talk about blancamiento here or in Mexico. Growing up I didn't even know I had any white/European ancestry because my family was against the idea, and I didn't look like any white kids growing up so I believed them. These days I am not ashamed of my background, and to be honest I'm glad the Spanish shared Christianity with us.

[@TheeDionysus]

u ppl never cease to amaze me

[@e3k701]

@@TheeDionysus thank you for the educational response

[@e3k701]

@@TheeDionysus You know, I was hoping someone would actually read my comment and learn something, and if they disagreed they would share their perspective, but your response is what I expected.

[@chrisrios802]

yes i grew up in mexico until 24, i never heard of 'blancamiento' must be in other "latino' countries that practice that, and i know many mexicans did see it as an insult to call them white, i mean everybody lol so im not sure where the youtuber got his information from, must be from liberal arts college or californian mexicans

[@chrisrios802]

you are the problem@@TheeDionysus

[@HatovimLeTayis]

How about Louis Farrakhan, Malcolm X, Kanye West and many more? Also the hate against educated Asians by certain black communities is obviously there. Slapping Chinese students on subway stations and what you have.. Hating on Jews. Referring to Mexicans as ‘wetbacks.’ And the list goes on and on. Unity is possible. Just not between ethnicities as a whole. But unity among individuals who don’t exclude or belittle others for belonging to a certain culture or ethnicity is definitely possible.

[@TheeDionysus]

u ppl never cease to amaze me

[@TheeDionysus]

legendary video, that in time will do great numbers on this platform.

[@Chesperito_]

I wouldn’t say its a complete myth but i think its a choice of the brown person to embrace our indigenous and African heritage or try to work towards whiteness and its deeply embedded into our system and our minds to be anti-non white which is why mestiztaje happened and blanciamente i wouldn’t use the word culture although it has affected it alot of our culture like customs traditions legends clothing depending on the country is heavily african or heavily indigenous for example im from Brazil and the majority of our culture is African and its been preserved very well ,but yes our system our politicians our media our elders have all embedded antiblack and anti indigenous views into us essentially making us hate ourselves i have african ancestry but im farther removed from my African ancestors (an example of blanciamento) so i still have african features like my hair which i embrace fully i be getting braids and stuff but however my cousin who’s father had way less European ancestry and was essentially fully Afro-indigenous mostly black he actually took the Kanye route and became a Trump Supporter not realizing he called brown people vermin grapists illegals but doing the same to africans as well as getting his start by exploiting black people a lot of afro latinos ,dominicans especially since they’re the most black reject their blackness to the point where its a meme they saying “i no black i dominican” (even though they have little to no European ancestry) there are some who choose to embrace it we have alot of colorism because of how vast our skin tones and features are i choose to embrace my brown/indigenous heritage and pride but as of recently I’ve also been learning to embrace my african ancestry by doing what i can and embracing my features and it’s something alot of brazillians choose to practice even though we have so much internalized hate it was actually the last new world country to abolish slavery and we’re the blackest country in south America that appalling to me but i don’t think north America is exempt from this since there are more white dominated industries in north America and how terribly north America preserved its indigenous culture by the Europeans keeping their bloodlines pure killing natives and stripping away black peoples African culture from them because say what you want about latin America we preserved african culture in Brazil and in the carribean very well so its very contradictory too which is why i say is a choice our people can make we can choose to hate ourselves or we can choose to reject whiteness rather than aspire to it

[@PenjaminFranklyn]

I commend you, this video took balls bro. Even if I don't 💯 percent agree.

[@Luca-enrique]

Is that most Latinos have European and Indigenous ancestry and between these two races, most prefer to have some Caucasian features, who would not like to have the same light eyes of our grandparents. That's it, it's a choice between the two options available to us

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Nobody has issue with any of that, it’s when it crosses line of hating people without those features that causes the problems.

[@dreamlovermimi9458]

If Black and Brown Unity is a Fantasy then why are their InterRacial Couples and people who are Black American and Mexican/ Puerto Rican / etc .

[@TheeDionysus]

in general versus individually is two totally different things.

[@dreamlovermimi9458]

@@TheeDionysus what do u mean?

[@lolakauffmann]

@@dreamlovermimi9458 I think it is individual couples standing together is one thing, but being united as interest groups on the whole and fighting against racism and for equaility doesn't really work that well with the mindests of too many people?

[@The_Original_Man]

Black and Brown people for the most part date and marry their own race….Stop it, over here talking about the 3%

[@showmestatefinest5412]

​@@dreamlovermimi9458there is always exceptions but as a whole there is no unity no different than black and white couples ut we all know as a whole there is no unity with white

[@holdthetruthhostage]

Will Watch this haha oh this might get deep respect

[@toothrowedTV]

Unity it is

[@brandonmogul-adlin531]

You’re not Latino bro how are you going to make a whole video about a culture you aren’t a part of? This whole video is a bunch of nonsense smh

[@55CINCO55]

No shit. People are complex, almost like you should think of people as individuals instead of groups...

[@55CINCO55]

@johnludwig8291 M0ron, the point was that just because people belong to some apparent group doesn't mean that they think or act the same, they're still individuals within said group.

[@TheeDionysus]

hence his disclaimer before hand.@@55CINCO55

[@thahomieish180]

@@55CINCO55 exactly idk how that went over his head

[@lolakauffmann]

Njeh - sure, individual persons are super important, and we should strive for a world where no individual is discriminated or feels lesser, because they belong to a certain group. But goupings DO exist - and as long as there is racism, and people say bad things about black folks, or asians, or gay people, or women or whatever, people need to organize & fight these beliefs.

[@brandonmogul-adlin531]

This guy is so jealous and insecure

[@Moon-dy2qt]

What about Dominicans ? Nobody even knows I’m Latino unless I tell them so this is unfair bro . Even if you don’t want to accept me I’m forced to accept you because I’m not a indigenous Latino like Mexicans and the other Latino are. That’s unfair to Dominicans and caribbeans who are Afro Latino bro we don’t even look Spanish!

[@letemknowzo]

Black Americans have no issue accepting Dominicans. The only thing that can make that difficult at times is anti-black racism, typically on the part of Dominicans. What about you though? You said people typically don't know your Latino unless you tell them. So nationality and ethnicity aside, what is your race? Black? White? Mixed? I'm not sure if your pfp is really you

[@Moon-dy2qt]

@@letemknowzo black/mixed and no im on my girls phone LMAOO

[@shprman]

I visited isreal reacently and was blow away to see how all types of cultures coexisted. Learning the history was a constant remind that it seems as humans we always end up fighting each other for any reason we can find

[@Xliter]

True

[@ENIGMA-tangerino555]

you have a responsibility to UNITE people of ALL Colours - do it! Instead of stirring the Pot

[@Eatinvanillaicecreamon7_5]

He's not stirring the pot, he's speaking his truth. People always want to come at black people who experience hate or discrimination by others instead of going directly to the people that are doing the discriminating. Tell them to stop.

[@TheeDionysus]

apparently being real is stirring the pot, let y'all tell it

[@TheeDionysus]

u ppl truly never cease to amaze me

[@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749]

@@TheeDionysus yep just like a coward she'll hide and never reply back & address the real discussion at hand. It will destroy her world

[@brandonmogul-adlin531]

This dude a hater

[@brandonmogul-adlin531]

@@andrewilliams4180 What that you guys are jealous of us?

[@andrewilliams4180]

@@brandonmogul-adlin531 jealous of what

[@brandonmogul-adlin531]

@@andrewilliams4180 Is that a real question? Lol you guys are so insecure it is crazy.

[@andrewilliams4180]

@@brandonmogul-adlin531 😅

[@Chesperito_]

I think it also depends where because in New York Black and Brown people are raised together while racism exists everywhere and there always be situations that cause a racial divide its much less than in places like LA where theres less integrated schools like i said in my other comment i feel that black and brown unity is a choice and something we should aspire to and something i hope one day can fully exist like you said at the end